 National Lyric champion into this giant tournament make it really epic Yeah, when do we get the world the world cup of that? Why can't we get in? Well, Australia was let I know I don't still By the way, they Justin Timberlake performed but he wasn't part of the competition good because if we just want to let Like just just so you know just like like that any moment we can They don't want the US to be involved But I like it's an honest question. I don't understand it. How did Australia? I know Australia has you know ties to England obviously, but also Have been very enthusiastic about Eurovision So in celebration of the 60th anniversary last year they allowed Australia Which is like the biggest Eurovision fans outside of Europe to send a competitor as a one-time thing and then this year They just decided to let them do it again. Hmm Yeah, I mean for Ray if it became big here, then they would let us in. Yeah, exactly. Maybe all right That's it. Thanks for watching Eurovision today Although that being said an American perspective. Why not do a 50-state or maybe a region. Oh dude the south versus the Midwest versus the north Yeah, you can do regionals Yeah, you could have the states combined in the south and then they send a south champion to the you gotta figure This has been pitched at some point. Oh, yeah I feel I feel like it's been done like they're like star search or somebody tried that The problem is you would have I think the reason was that you would have an unbalanced number of Contestants from certain parts of the country that would overwhelm You know, well, you just like the electoral college then it'd be like you're like, oh, how many Alaskans can all right? We ready to go We'll care we'll solve this yet. I swear All right, here we go 200th of 1% of the Daily Tech news show were brought to you by me If you would like to decrease my already meager equity go to Daily Tech news show com slash support This is the Daily Tech news for Thursday May 19th 2016 on top I'm joining today. Mr. Justin Robert Young host of weird things dot com politics politics politics and the night attack show among mothers Among many others. How are you Justin? Uh, you know, I had what is now being referred to as a a Real, you know, we host night attack and and night attack would be a great way to describe how windows 10 got on my computer So, uh, so there's been a bit of a tech couple The best of times and the worst of times it actually came while I was in a vive game Which is is about Soul-sucking way that you can have be ripped out of the virtual reality is to be In the middle of a windows 10 update by the time that you realize what it happened But aside from that, so I'm so wait a minute. So wait a minute you at some point got the we've made a Reservation for windows 10 and then must have clicked x instead of no Which Microsoft takes a tacit consent, which is a problem as as as best as we can figure out, right? I mean our our studio system, which is what I'm on right now is a shared computer between both myself and my wife Producing all sorts of stuff for twitch and podcast and everything. So no one knows exactly how the computer got You know got it in its head that no matter what anything that was happening at that specific time at night would be windows 10 update time However, we are we are living in the now We are moving forward and as far as just monopolizing daily tech news shows intro That's the only sacrifice. We will now get to the tech All right, fine. I get it. I just think it's clear. I think it should be clear to people that Justin and like many other users did not ignore the windows prompt Justin had an HTC Vive on his head Yeah, and didn't see a windows prompt because yeah, they sure they do tell you like hey We're about to start this is that okay, but if you don't take any action anyway, you're right. Let's get to the headlines Google announced that Android apps and the Google Play Store are coming to Chrome OS ladies and gentlemen the future is happening Google play will start rolling out in the developer channel with m5 3 on the ASUS Chromebook flip the ASUS Sorry, the Acer Chromebook R11 and the latest Chromebook pixel not the original Chromebook pixel interestingly enough Over time this will roll out to other Chromebooks in the market too I'm seeing a lot of outlets say June for the first roll out in September for the rest But that is not listed in Google's official announcement So those may be rough dates that they're telling people Interestingly, our sectica reports that Google is not Using the app runtime for Chrome or Arc that it was developing you may have heard about that instead It did the entire Android framework as a container in Chrome OS Which they found to be a lot more viable than than trying to do a runtime thing the history of Chrome and and and beyond it being a very popular browser and the Chromebooks but like but specifically in in that Chromebook System is very very fascinating for Google This was Google making a gigantic bet that the world to come at the point where they were debuting Chrome as an OS and Chrome Well, you know on on the Chromebooks was going to be a fully internet connected place Or at least enough so that they could sell these devices or inspire other manufacturers to make them the fact that The the right move was made now that Android is really the mobile platform And it is robust enough that you can bring these apps onto this other system Kind of shows you that they have evolved on that thinking I mean this is what you know that the Chrome OS was something that kept them from doing You know what was called G drive as a fantasy years ago and is now just Google Drive And and you are kind of seeing that that idea has now almost fully eroded into I think a better product You know that I think the Chromebooks will be better for having the Android and play system and interestingly Not getting rid of the Chrome OS store. They're still going to have that available for things that you already use They're just adding the Android store, which I think is a cautious step to say, you know what? We don't want to just merge these two OSes They had did they do have different purposes and they are coded for different environments But let's let's slowly bring some cross-compatibility Patability and see where we can go and the best part about doing the Android framework in a container means that Developers will for the most part not have to do anything Yeah, you might want to test it out and see what kind of quirks happen because you're on a device with a keyboard and mouse But most of that is taken over by the container and translated for you It's going to be something else that people are going to that the developers are gonna have to test for but you're right It's not something that you need to write a totally new Version or completely revamp. I just want to note foreshadowing the Chrome OS on Original idea by Google as we go forward into our our discussion I don't know what you're talking about just an operating systems have been around for years. Yeah, yeah A Pittsburgh Tribune Reboard took a ride in uber self-driving Ford fusion confirming uber street testing of Autonomous cars uber says that the test began a few weeks ago ubers automated vehicles use 22 camera lenses laser sensors and other Sensors to see as fall at far as a hundred meters in any direction uber says it has so far had no crashes Uber open its advanced technology center in Pittsburgh last year. Here we go uber here we go This is where all the Carnegie Mellon people went to this to this advanced technology center and They did you know and partly because they're talking to a Pittsburgh Tribune reporter made a big deal about how Pittsburgh's perfect for testing Autonomous cars because of the weather extremes it can have and the crazy parking in the hills And I was looking at that and thinking well a lot of other cities have crazy parking in Hills, but Pittsburgh does has some pretty crazy weather and when it gets to winter it'll be interesting. How well these tests go? Pittsburgh is not an easy city to drive in especially if you're not from there It's obviously a city with a lot of bridges. There's a lot of very unique Traffic scenarios that happen because of that as anybody, you know can can understand when you have to cross a bridge They need to get you in a single file line to go across it. It's not easy to circumvent it it is a Condensed enough downtown that you're gonna have a lot of those downtown conditions So I do think that it is a fairly unique area to do it But let's face it if Carnegie Mellon was in Minneapolis They'd be saying the exact same thing the weather extremes of Minneapolis are crazy in downtown. It's really yeah I mean Pittsburgh. I don't know where you'd put it less than Boston as far as traffic craziness, but more than Minneapolis Or yeah, I mean I would having having driven in all those cities Boston is easily the most annoying less annoying now post big dig But you know that in general, you know, you always kind of long for the grid, right? You know New York City, Manhattan's a fairly easy place to drive because it has a grid Boston is is just a drunk person with a sharpie, you know making a bunch of squiggles and then saying yeah, I know the roads go there But yeah, I mean, it's I don't know have if you live in Pittsburgh. Let us know how hard of a city is it to drive it? The Tesla Crypt ransomware has shut down and they're giving everyone their data back It's it's it's like the greatest customer service story ever here Slovak security firm e-set asked a question on Tesla crypts dark website about the apparent wind down. They noticed that servers were dropping off and The Tesla Crypt ransomware developers responded project closed Then they listed the master key that you can use to unlock all of your ransomed data and wrote Wait for other people make universal decrypt software. We are sorry E-set has a decryptor tool at we live security calm and bleeping computer calm has a Tesla cryptic odor as well And bleeping computer even notes that the distributors of Tesla crypt may have moved on to crypt triple X Leaving the makers to not have a product anymore And therefore be nice enough to post the master key for everyone Which of course sheds light on the fact that just like video games Ransomware makers have coders developers and distributors that are not always the same organization Wow This is I mean number one a set up for an amazing workplace comedy that I would I would love to I would love to get a Peak inside of and and number two it's very rare I mean in general security stories like this don't exactly have a whole lot of left terms And there are left turns in terms of how these things work out. It's almost like refreshing to see. Oh look There's there's diversity in stories like this. We lost our distribution deal. Here's the key We've you know, we got paid. Yeah, we're gonna get any money out of this. Yeah They moved on to anyone VR head clay Bavor Bavor Bavor Yeah, Bavor confirm Google will sell its own version of the daydream VR gear saying on stage at I owe quote And by the way, it's not just going to be partners building from the reference design We Google are also going to build a controller and a headset and make it available Google's partnering with Epic Games and the unity on motion on the motion sensing controller Yeah, the plug-ins for for unreal and for unity going into daydream as well We're gonna talk a bit more about this in the main discussion topic as well as Google in general with what they announced at I owe yesterday and the criticisms thereof but Kind of an interesting an interesting approach to not make that announcement in the big IO keynote and then at a smaller vr Focused thing go. Hey guys in case you were wondering we're totally gonna make a product Although everybody was reporting. We weren't yesterday because we didn't say anything about it so you have to wonder You know without this becoming a story about whether or not their PR bulletins were in the right order or everybody Was prepped properly for his presentation, which I didn't mean to be alliteration, but turned out it was This is what they should have led with right in fact you can make an argument to say that they shouldn't have Debuted the daydream VR until they had something to show that gave people guidance as to what is best with this technology This is a a very puzzling move for them Because I think Google can and should be a major player in VR and specifically in the idea that You could do a device that is room-sensing VR without a lot of the other Kutramon that come with a higher-end system like the Vive and yet we kind of got this this muddled Presentation yesterday and then we get this kind of course correction today and yet it's all kind of vaporware So it just sort of leaves a bit of a meh taste In at least my mouth as somebody who really wants them to succeed in this phase Yeah, I feel like they want to do a separate announcement for their actual product Which is why they didn't mention it on the big stage But then realize that several outlets were saying and Google has decided not to make one even though Google had not said specifically They would just decided any such thing in fact apparently they decided the opposite Adobe launched a new suite of apps called Adobe Spark for creating and sharing visual content like graphics and animated videos Making page layouts for your website Mobile apps Adobe post Adobe slate and Adobe voice are basically just being rebranded as Spark post Spark page and Spark video Respectively web versions of all three will let you create content in the browser as well That's new the idea is everyday people can create professional looking graphics and layouts and videos in minutes again It's not live videos. It's animations Service and the apps are free. Just go to spark dot Adobe comm and spark up your creativity Hey, hey, hey, hey make professional graphics every day Thursday Google appeared at a French data protection Or sorry Google appealed a French data protection order to remove the right to be forgotten search results and all search From all search engines globally in February Google started Honoring delisting requests on all of its sites when access from the country the request originated from France a seat France's CNIL find a hundred thousand euros in March for not delisting more widely Yeah, so this is just the next step at Google saying no We're not going to remove links from other countries because of your law and France saying It shouldn't matter where our French citizens are in the world those links should be forgotten So Google has appealed and we'll see what happens Yeah, we're gonna see where this goes But this is this is certainly going to be a very interesting line in the same Google revealed It has designed its own application specific integrated circuit or ASIC called the tensor Processing unit for running TensorFlow glue Google's open source machine learning system the TPU has been used in data Centers for more than a year now and powers things like rank brain Which does your relevancy for search results street view and assisted Alpha go and it's go tournament the TPU requires fewer Transistors per operation because it's tailored to machine learning applications. So even though they say crazy things like it's like a seven year Jump forward in Moore's law doesn't mean that they could put it in an Android phone make it work great Chromebooks out shipped max in the u.s. For the first quarter of 2016 IDC estimates 1.6 million max shipped in q1 But does not break out sales by operating system IDC analyst Lynn huang Confirmed to the verge that quote chrome OS overtook Mac OS in the u.s. And now runs Android apps Researcher from the University of New South Wales claimed to have created photovoltaic cells that can harvest thirty four point five percent of solar energy Without concentrators So that's just the sunlight as it hits the cells that tops the previous maximum of twenty four percent 28 square centimeter cell splits incoming sunlight into four bands to increase the efficiency of the energy extraction Too expensive and hard to maintain for rooftop. They're thinking but it could be ideal for solar towers The efficiency record has been confirmed by the u.s. National renewable energy laboratory However, the research has yet to be peer reviewed. So don't get too excited yet, but it sounds pretty good. Either way sunny days ahead CNET reports an Australian and u.s. Military research team tested a hypersonic air Transport Wednesday in a Woomera, South Australia Sorry if I butchered that the test rocket reached Mach 7.5 or 9200 kph to put that into perspective that would turn the 20 hour Sydney to London trip into a two hour Jaunt that's barely to Chardonnay's This is one of the 10 tests that started in 2009. The final test is scheduled in 2018 ha chi machi. This is fast. Yeah, I don't know where this stands on commercial viability but Sydney to London in two hours. I mean that's got a main LA to Sydney in like an hour and a half or something Right hour and 45 like yeah I mean this is I Mean and this is a kind of kind of a bigger picture thing But you got to figure we are at a point where air travel, which has kind of been at a relatively stagnant place for what? 30 years 40 years in terms of like how long it takes to take the Concorde out of it Which was very pricey and no longer flies. Yeah, it's not much faster than it was in the 60s You know, we're kind of listen. We're do we're do I'm excited Shay Shay to the chat room points out you arrive in liquid form, but still really fast You are poured very elegantly through a strainer and Into your garden a Thanks to all those who submitted things we used from our subreddit and anybody who submitted things on our subreddit submit stories and vote on Them let us know what you want us to talk about daily tech news show dot reddit.com big thanks to sp. Sheridan He submitted the solar story. I believe Steve. I owe off key another J. Martin You you guys are great prop prof pod flow Bama's back in there flipper Carvalho Daily tech news show dot reddit.com and that is a look at the headlines All right, let's talk a little bit more about daydream VR because now that we know they're gonna make one We can assume that those mock-ups we saw of the reference design will probably be pretty close to what Google comes out with Headband ergonomic fit. Don't forget the smartphone handles the brains that display in the head tracking for their version of VR Clay Bavor said that they're gonna make one. He also talked about the epic games unreal engine for plug-in for daydream That's available in preview now There's a unity plug-in available now and they say native unity integration coming this summer as part of the NDK For daydream and of course all the things they announced yesterday with their phone partners and their app partners And Bavor told the Verge that they will take a very strong Stance on things like performance frame rate image and latency when approving things for the app store So won't be the rubber stamp that you get in the Google Play Store for the rest of Android The best thing I saw out of this is daydream lab showing off a virtual drum set keyboard Where you just you just do motion control and play drums They basically created a drum set for HTC Vive and then adapted it for daydream So you just play drums to type in VR But what you were expressing a little bit of hesitation at this being Google's effort in VR Justin Why is that I was hoping they were gonna do an all-in-one device? I was hoping that they They've hired very very smart people. I think that they have identified a very smart Direction for VR and as somebody who's followed the space a little bit I think that there is no doubt that the future of VR is in you being able to move seamlessly throughout a Virtual space. It's what the Vive has done very very well on a high-end level However, I think that there's a tremendous amount of applications that could benefit from a lower powered Version that really puts its Its focus on that mobility and movement and and room censoring. I just don't although I understand the desire to say No one's gonna pay X amount of money for a standalone VR thing We everybody's got a phone the phone You know has you know 90% of the guts of what we need There is just that to me is short-term thinking compared to like, you know, right now We hooked up this vibe in my in my studio, right? And before Windows 10 decided to bust into my life like the Kool-Aid man It was an amazing experience that I'm looking forward to whenever I'm talking to somebody that is around my apartment I want to invite them up because I know that that experience is going to be amazing and once you understand that you just want more of That and I think that that's where they should be chasing and not necessarily you're always going to be making You're always going to be compromising if you are using the phone as the guts and that and and the display Unless you are selling a phone that is a VR device that also makes text, right? And and I think that that's that's always just going to be Liability for them until they just go all in and make their own singular device I think there's a place for the gear VR's of the world and the cardboards of the world to be hey an introductory Low low impediment access to VR especially, you know as smartphone percentage rises worldwide There's going to be more people that could just construct something out of cardboard and take advantage of an app On the other hand I see where you mean which I thought it was very elegant the idea of hey We're gonna we're gonna hit the niche that's not $799 like an HTC Vive But gives you a little extra boost because of an integrated system that does you don't have to have your phone in or someone else's Phone in if yours isn't good enough to be able to take advantage of it I wonder though would they still come out with that later this year the nexus VR Which they say hey it uses our daydream reference design, but it's an entire system all in one You don't have to put your phone in I Would I would hope so I mean again like I think that that Either Google or Apple who has also hired a lot of very smart VR people very much have it in their capacity to sell a Device that is lower than and again to say that the vibe is $799 is a total lie if you do not already have a high performance gaming PC Right, so the real out-of-the-box cost is far more than that. I think something for $400 $500 That gives you a room-sensing experience is a very attractive product especially as Stuff like the vibe with it with a very active steam VR market has already explored a little Bit of like oh well, what do people want to do in the high-end version? What doesn't need this graphics processing power because there's a lot of it that does it There's a lot of there's a lot of artistic ways that you can shave off a lot of the super deep rendering That requires the high-end gaming PC that that you know you can just develop fun little ways to to interact with it Or functional ways to interact with it all in one VR product from Google That was a step up from cardboard and gear VR, but not as expensive as the HTC Vive or even the PlayStation VR Certainly wouldn't be the first there are other companies trying this But it would effectively have been Google leading the way into a new market instead We see them doing something that already exists just doing it slightly better daydream is is supposed to be a better platform with more Stringent requirements and the ability to shave off those things and give you a better VR experience than you would from cardboard That is one of the things that I'm I heard a lot of people saying this during IO yesterday We were chatting in our slack about it and Steve Kovacs has a very good write-up about this at techinsider.io About the fact that nothing Google announced yesterday was a new idea Is that a bad thing? I? Kind of find that argument to be a little weird In that I don't know how useful it is because you can kind of say that always right and and totally outside the box ideas are Often times not great and specifically not great for Google Google Q the Google Glass which arguably is a success in the enterprise, but nowhere else Sure, and and you can have a real argument on whether The enterprise considering how much they spent on it and marketed and what they wanted it to be Look at the best things that Google has done Including you know Google they didn't invent search. They just did search better They had a better way to do it They had a they had a great way to say to claim a Whole ecosystem for smartphones with Android and they made the decision to say hey look Yeah, this looks a lot like iOS, but you want to know what we're going to make these very key Differentiators and we are going to grow our own ecosystem because it's going to be good for us There is a lot to like about what Google does including Google home, which I thought was very interesting and Considering the fact that I have way more data naturally running through Google servers than I do through Amazon servers Good very much. I could see that replacing my my my my echo As you know if it does live on to that promise and has the same kind of a good voice recognition Like like that product does so I think that if anything Saying that they are out of original ideas In the world for Google right like that's it doesn't mean that they are out of good products like It's always a weird criticism. It's a weird criticism with Apple when Apple has made Just a hit parade of yeah We're fourth to the party, but but you know, we're fourth to the party like the coolest kid in class is the fourth to the party Uh and and Google which has done Really really really good stuff in iteration and in deciding. Yeah, okay. Well. Yes. We understand this marketplace to be far bigger Uh other people have gone left. We're gonna go In the middle or right, you know, we're just gonna do a little thing different with it evolutionary not revolutionary The question is Because we've talked before in the show about second mover advantage, right? That's what you get when that's what you're shooting for with evolutionary is I am the second or third to the party But because I've watched all the mistakes I now have a better product and have learned from those people who've gone before Google home. I do think is a good example of that It is a compelling product and taking advantage of things that google has that amazon doesn't such as cast enabled devices People may have a chromecast and now this google home will be able to work with that People may be buying a vizio tv that has cast enabled now. It's going to work with that as well So, you know, and then of course like you said, there's the whole data set that google has a lot of people involved in already I look at alo And I wonder Okay, that it's a fair bet because they're basically saying well, we needed to come out with a chat bot So we're going to do what facebook did and put the chat bot in a messaging app But we're not going to put it in hangout. We're going to create a whole new app And that seems a little weird to me Both alo and duo felt to me like this is still a company that is finding who they are with with sundar pachai making the final decisions Uh, hangout has always been this, uh, I don't want to say Uh, orphan, you know, because it's something that was almost instantly very popular buried within another service that was not popular at all In google plus right now you have a lot of people especially in its integration with android that rely on it Very heavily right and so to come out with another messaging app just feels to me like What sundar pachai or google leadership would like to do is say hey, you want to know what What hangout is is not necessarily what the future of this medium is going to do So let's let's give two products and people can use what they want and we'll see where we're going to go And whether or not what the very it definition of the future of of chat messaging is indeed going to be the future Or people just want to use this thing that you know works and is popular and people like now Uh, but it it both of those products to me felt like Uh, who are we? I don't know you guys tell us We're just going to put a lot of these things out here in the world and you let us know Well, and don't forget, you know facebook has facebook messenger and whatsapp Right, facebook owns whatsapp facebook has photos in its facebook app, but also instagram Uh, so there there is a path where this could work. I'm not saying that this is the path But it's it's not a ridiculous concept if you do it, right? Uh, and I I wonder about specifically facebook had messages In facebook that they then and they then broke out Yeah, very painful fashion for many people Broke out into its own app much to the consternation of of a lot of a lot of users So they they made a very hard decision to do this It would be interesting if google all of a sudden said, oh, yeah No, everything that's hooked into android. You're not going to get kicked into hangouts now Now you're going to get kicked into allo and don't forget instant apps Is google iOS is not doing that as far as I know Yeah, and I don't think anybody else is doing that so so they did come with something that was brand new It's a little more esoteric a little more developer centric And getting people to sample your app, but it might be the kind of thing that people start using and go Wow, this is great. Actually. I'm in this situation. I'm at a museum I don't really want to install their app, but I want to see the map now. I can Yeah, so that's I I think there is more going on under the hood too I I will say in my last thought about google io yesterday was the most coherent presentation From google that i've seen yet Uh, there weren't these crazy google nexus q balls there there there weren't as many of these things were like well It's google home. Uh, but I don't really understand it like I got everything they announced Whether it's going to be a successful product or not is is a separate issue They got to get out of that shoreline amphitheater though Like are you are you serious? You're putting a bunch of you know tech bloggers and developers out in the open sun That's that's that's great six man Yeah, I mean come on at least put a band on at the end instead of just sending them off come on Oh, jeez. I just felt so I mean like come on like I understand that maybe they don't want to pay for the Moscone anymore, but like that not they did a 360 degree stream of that Not the best use of a 360 degree screen I mean, yeah, it's like finally I can see all the faces that go with the names on all the tech blogs I read You know like what a crazy thing All right, let's get to our pick of the day eric from beautiful Dayton says hi guys Couple episodes behind on the show, but I used item cycle to sell my old iphone They are similar to gazelle, but their site collects offers from other buyback companies and then calculates a higher payout price They also only do apple products right now But I thought the audience would like to know item cycle Dot com it em c y c le Dot com uh looked up There's not a ton of reviews of item cycle out there But the ones that I saw were fairly positive and said they got decent prices So you might want to check them out if they're getting rid of an old apple device Well, and the good news is that you know comparison shopping on what you get from gazelle and what you get from there is very easy So send your picks to us folks feedback at daily tech news show dot com You can find more picks at daily tech news show dot com slash picks Uh, I got some messages just a quick note on the aloe name says maz from rainy northern virginia Uh in iran when we answered the phone instead of saying hello, we would say aloe I wonder if this is the case in other countries as well And this is google's way of saying an international aloe Uh, no, I think it's really just a reference to what all of the tech bloggers needed after getting sunburned Uh by watching the io presentation. They needed aloe Justin and google fibry kansas city said in response to the discussion yesterday about google's knock knock feature in duo That's the one where the video of the caller starts automatically and you they don't see you until you pick up Justin says I can think of at least one argument against such a feature Since a phone number is all that's required to contact someone using duo becomes easy to put Inappropriate or offensive images in front of someone's face. You won't have a chance to say I don't recognize that number before seeing what they have on the camera And it'll be interesting to see if that gets abused Uh spoiler alert it will whether or not, uh, the feature in or duo gets the same amount of use Uh, you know is is really going to be what what the interesting part of it's going Yeah, are you trying are you saying the best thing to happen to duo might be some kind of scandal that gets everybody to Understand the duo exists. No, I'm saying that if you see, you know, uh, it'll it'll only take one Uh, uh, horrifying and I'm only I'm right now rotating through a list of uh, internet meme horrifying images It'll only take one of them for somebody to see that and say you want to know what maybe not duo I feel like uh And maybe a duo will work this way. I haven't looked into it close enough to to find out for sure It should only do that instant video from people, you know people you have pre-approved Numbers that you don't know should not have that instant video at least that should be a setting Yes, I do think it is humanizing I think that it is it is google trying to think of a way to make this experience fun different and more warm and fuzzy but In in in great in in in the grand google fashion sometimes what they understand to be human emotion Is different than what humans think We're talking on monday about the gtx 1080 from invidia We were mentioning yesterday that Person who wrote in saying I know it's not that big of a jump, but I won't want anyway Uh yaru in malaysia said I bought a gtx 970 last month graphics cards per medium income over here in malaysia are far more expensive exchange rates and all that Uh than it is to a regular person in the us So it's a bigger purchase here than it is to a regular us gamer And I won a 10 82. He's like I don't care. I just got a 970. I had to spend a lot of money on it I still have a track to do a 1080. It's just that weird thing. You just you see something new and you're like, hmm Maybe it's not that much better. I mean it it's just that like like oh come on Like like everybody wants to build the car that they can race against vindiesel Right, whether or not it's a computer or or anything else doesn't mean you have to give into that compulsion But it's certainly natural to have sure Uh, and then scott was saying yesterday that he wished ios Had the clear all apps button like google does an android end now You'll be able to click on the square you get all of your your apps that are running running quote unquote And then you can just clear them all And we got this email here from chip and finally sunny and warm boston that says good news There is except he's there isn't but he's got to work around for you It's not really a button more of a control alt delete He says if you hold down the power button until the power slider comes up in ios Then release the power button and hold down the home button for five seconds All apps will be forced quit and you will be returned to the home screen The apps will remain in the app switcher carousel, but they will not be running Any points out that a lot of people misunderstand Whether those apps that are running in in that view in ios are really running He's like most of them aren't and that's true Also, this is much more complicated than a clear all button I just want to say but it is a cool thing to know about in case you want to get everything to stop running That's a good way to do it An amazing tip on a totally separate element If if they did that android n name thing On a silicon valley, I would I would groan at it as a joke that would be unrealistic It's insane that oh that they're taking submissions. It's not a vote just submissions. I mean for n words literal n words Stop it netella would be a good one I maybe they just couldn't get the netella folks to cooperate on using that like they did with kitkat Yeah, well, it should be uh, uh, no, no, don't ask for public No Well, they're not making them all by default public. So we'll get a very curated list We certainly will and I pity the person who has to edit them Uh, well, thank you. Justin robert young. I do not pity you Uh, because you're killing it out there. You're doing great. I love everything you do What are what are some of those things to tell folks about? Oh, tom stop it. You're gonna make me blush Uh, uh, everybody can go ahead and check out, uh night attack politics politics politics, which records on fridays So tomorrow on diamond club dot tv right after daily tech news show I go live with politics politics politics What a heck of a week we had and we will break it all down For you guys, but I heard there was a primary this week, but nobody was covering it because they were talking about the other candidate Um, he's not in a primary Okay, many many many one sentence thing We are in this bizarre situation right now Where the candidate that is winning elections is getting no coverage because he can't win the meta game Uh, the candidate that is losing elections is winning the meta game and yet, uh, taking on more and more water for the meta meta game And the one candidate that couldn't stop shooting himself in the foot is now behaving like an adult Which is bizarre and and is sending everybody off kilter. 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Hey So apologies for that All right, uh, hey, thanks w scottis one and bio cal for putting together an impromptu Headline collecting mechanism for the chat realm you guys are great. All right, look at the uh See temporary show about link for the titles there's even voting Uh, wow, that's a pretty long title Uh daydream achieve hyphen vr with your phone hyphen coming screen daydream achiever and uh I oh king No Is that an htc htc vibe on your head? Are you just happy to see me? Dave so many so many What was his name for the monkeys david david jones david jones I used to love that show When it was a show, uh, cool kids are second movers adobe's spark of creativity Google gdreams of vr Google cracks metal out tesla crypt loses power tesla crypt is sorry On a daydream daydream the nightmare for the rest of us 199 vr plus tax computer graphics card internet Google ran out of ideas of the alphabet Google's out of original ideas Sydney to London and 5.2 g's I will add that that's something they've been Kicking around for the past 20 years Uh, google elephant unafraid of french mouse. What what is? Oh the uh hole you can get to sydney to london in like a couple of they've been working. Oh, yeah This is they've been testing this one since 2009. There's also been You know the other big revolution a revolutionary idea is in a world with especially cheaper or reusable rockets Uh, just actually kind of blasting off And landing and I mean, you know the reason why planes planes today for I mean just a small side Well, let's get through the titles real quick I'll be honest I just started to tune out because they all started to sound the same. Is there one that you liked? Uh There's a daydream Justin was there any of them that caught you uh, let me take Dare to daydream That was the one I saw it was concise For me dream achiever As much as like the monkeys, I'm not sure if everyone would get the title Oh, who doesn't know daydream believer? Uh people under the age of 30 35 I would get 35 No, I mean a dream believers would be like it's still used in uh In what in what? Commercial cool kids are second movers. It's kind of good too. I like that To do move movers Sorry cool kids are second movers. I mean I think we should go with that you guys. Okay. Sure Because I'm a second mover This is my third version of a daily news show about tech My third mover I just heard thunder Which is not thunder. I'm fairly sure someone just dropped something at the construction site across the street Maybe they're just fully artists on the spare time We need some thunder for the soundtrack That's probably just a shoot happening a street over here, right? All right, so Where were we on Eurovision? Oh, I was saying that We're gonna do an american version of Eurovision. Oh, right the states the the regionals How many countries do they have in Eurovision? Uh, well, it varies not every country takes part every year, but this year. I think it was something in the finals. It was like 26 We gotta double that almost Well, yeah, so all right, so if you wanted to make it a show Right like a series like an american idol series, right? Then you do all 50 states That's a lot of work though. You know you do face-offs historic rivalries No, you would have to do region. I don't think you could do by state. Alabama versus Mississippi I mean, you would be Mississippi if you if you wanted to make it a season, right? Tennessee versus kentucky this week on ameravision Let me just call it what it is star search national star search Yeah, but you didn't have the state pride aspect star search as much Maybe you have a little local price. Yeah, but you know I'm not sure how well that would Maybe in certain parts, but I think the americans are way too mobile to Like would you would you vote for someone from illinois or from california? Like well, look at look at sports teams like People get oh, yeah, it's sports teams move cities. In fact, they move out Give people a reason to have some kind of saying that would make you less likely if you were allowed to vote for your own people I would vote for the florida man or woman Do you think so? I would hell. Yeah I I think it would work out better by region if you feel like this Because florida gets screwed. Well, we're gonna we're gonna have to mix it up with a bunch of yokels from georgia and and That's fired I mean listen like like i want, you know the florida persons like there's a shot at hip hop There's a shot. It's edm. It's some dentists also a dj. What if you do both? So florida's in the southern region and goes head to head That's what i'm saying. Yeah, and then you have a southern champion A northeast champion a midwest champion rocky states champion southwest champion west coast champion Yeah, but but that's your show your show is determining those things and then go to the finals and that's your big You know, it's basically the the format of the little league world series Yes, what i'm saying is that we do the little league world series, but with uh pop music. Yeah Well, like say wait, so if you did by region You could take the southern like the tip end of florida and group it in with like portorico and like The oh, so you're saying go cultural. Yeah have a caribbean region and then what else? Dixie region so what it's it's Miami-Dade county plus portorico Plus the keys plus what us virgin islands I mean Yeah, you don't have to start letting in non-us territories if you really want to make well then fine include dominic the dominican republic Yeah, okay, but then we're going outside of america right like let's let canada into why not Yeah, if they could be part of the new you know like kebek could be part of the northeast I think they'll have its own but then okay, but then at that point it's just america's long contest, right? That's great. It's even more inclusive. That's all america north america then then what you do Is you you got to open up to anybody in the base you split america into three right like southeast Uh, the rest of america Nice Uh, I mean by population that's probably how you'd wind up doing it Why right by popular? I mean california hitting 40 million people The chunk of change No, it's still the 50 of the population of america's on the eastern seaboard. Yeah No, I'm yeah, but i'm saying like are you saying like because it's it's I I think it would be better like you would group california with you know the northern northeastern part of along northeastern part of mexico and Or northwestern part of mexico and maybe arizona Oh, no, you're no you can't go international with the groupings. That's all we just did Fine fine fine fine then california gets its own 40 million people roughly you just not get its own stop it You're gonna have you're you're just like if I can't have international i'm going isolationist You're sharing with portland. You're sharing with seattle. You're sharing with phoenix By we split california into southern california goes with this Well, now here's the thing zoe brings bacon says why not just go the world? That's where we're headed with this Is once the winner of amera vision is is crowned then they take on the winner of euro vision Which includes australia already and lots of the middle east shows up sometimes israel was in there this year So there you go suddenly you've got you've got world vision World doesn't wait. Isn't there a world vision? Aren't they a charity? Yeah, I think there's something called world vision. You're right Or how about world though vision? Oh, yeah, they do the sponsor a child in need So if the if they win The winner can donate thirty nine dollars of their winnings to a child in need Here's what you do. You have your you're a mera vision winner You're euro vision winner and then one astronaut from the international space station and a scientist from antarctica I'll take you. All right. Yeah, but that would be waiting Well chris hatfield isn't in space anymore, right? He came back. Yeah, well You could say like emeritus, you know to get hatfield in there because you're gonna want them for season one, right? Hmm antarctica, who do we know in antarctica? How could we gave this to our advantage? Oh, yeah, we're gonna we're gonna end up putting south america in ameravision at some point Well, yeah But that's why I mean because you can't split us up into more than three right because then it's like you're gonna go international. Yeah That it becomes it becomes problematic I mean at that point you just you you you could split it up into three internally But I think you have to end up with one u.s winner that then takes on canada mexico No, I feel like we get we get we get more than one like in oh really really An argument for american music exceptionalism Yeah I am well most of people are gonna watch it in america anyway, right? That's that's how that argument always goes right Wait a minute. So wait do do profession do recording artists with Artists with a recording contract Get to get to participate or does it have to be like amateur? No, it doesn't have to be amateurs for Eurovision. I don't think uh bonnie tyler was the uk's representative It just has to be an original song. So the song can't have been marketed previously Oh dude So we gotta have three or else we're just gonna win Oh, no, that's a that's a very presumptuous increase your chances of winning No, no, no, it dilutes it. Oh because the only part of the us would win. I see I see where you're going with that I just feel like everybody would get rally round whoever survived at that point, but Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You got to keep multiple you got to keep america voting against itself Some way to win. Yeah So just would just do blues and grays And territories you had to make All right, I have finished this Editing and it looks like I didn't screw it up this time fingers crossed All right guys, well, I'm gonna get back to banging my head against my pc tower I hope you figure that out. I I actually wanted to ask you something real quick, but it wasn't sure if I Appropriate to do it on we'll go off there. We'll talk to you guys. Love you guys