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ComeTvy is asking for food and we have been here before and we are now going to drink third unit of tea.  masc     Square                                                                                                                                                                                                                         Ḩἀᴀᴀᵍᵃᵃᵃᶦᵕ ᵕ ᵜᵃᵣᵉᵇᵏᶦᵃ ᵕᴀᵃᵇᵉᵉᵒᵉᵃᵏᵍᶦᵉᵒᵊᶦᵉᶪ, ᶦᵃᵃᵂ ᵕᵃᵜᵜ ᵕᵃᵒᵉ ᵕᵐʊᶦᵗᵉᵏᶦᵉᵉ ᵕᵒᵒᵒᵉᵉᵒᵉ ᵕᶦᵉᵉᵉᵉᶦ� you know escape the bank premises because of the fear of being lynched by angry Nigerians are unable to access cash now please let's hear what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an sms o whatsapp to 0818 038 4663 you can also tweet at us at wish you have come on the hashtag wish you all all right so i mean this conversation right it's quite interesting because there are so many things that in my head i'm trying to find a way not to like talk you know talk over myself because trying to say it now some video surfaced i don't know if you guys saw those videos over the weekend where um cbn officials had to go to bank vaults right to see um stacks of the new naira note being hidden behind the old naira notes in the vaults then there were also videos on the surface of the automated tele machines where the new naira notes were loaded into the automated tele machines but it was still wrapped in the seal so meaning that those new naira notes even if you put in your card it cannot dispense that cash it probably tell you or error or something out of order or whatever right so then there is also the conspiracy that most of these naira notes that are that i mean we saw in the bank vaults right that bankers were saving those naira notes because of the forthcoming elections that all of this drama happening is because the elections are coming and we know in israel politics is majorly right um what's it called handled with cash it's really the political process bribery and all of that happens so that you know certain candidates will be able to win so the the the issue now with the bankers why they have been attacked is the fact that you know they they feel that these monies that have been hoarded in their vaults you know they're saving it for politicians then again flip it back to last week when we were talking about the people spraying money at the banks getting the money from these po s vendors so we have the question is when cbn releases funds cbn releases funds to the commercial banks right so how did it land in the hands of these po s vendors that are able to dispense cash at ridiculous you know charges right somebody withdrawing a million naira and paying 1.3 million so for me i don't know is it okay that we truly say okay you know what these bankers are to be blamed for this or is there more to this that we are not even aware of let me hear your thoughts ladies honestly i wouldn't say it's okay to attack the bankers but i would also say that i understand where the frustration and the annoyance is coming from especially with the video that came out last weekend so you see people who have been suffering all through last week they are unable to feed they are unable to do anything because they don't have enough cash and then a video like that surfaces and it's like oh initially cbn had said they actually released funds to the banks and then but then the banks were saying oh they actually do not have this cash but then a video is coming out and it's actually showing that these people have this money but then they are not releasing it it's like they are deliberately trying to frustrate people so personally i get where they are coming from but to go to the extent of attacking the bankers i'm not in support of violence i would never stand for violence that's one thing but i think another thing is we need to find out who actually gave these directive do you understand that the bankers should hurt this money so we are either talking about the CEOs of these banks the board of directors of these banks who do not interface with the customers who actually gave out that order and that's what we need to find out that's what we need to know and i it's it's upsetting that cbn had to wait for this long to actually do something like to uncover what do you understand because this problem has been going on since when this new niran notes was released a lot of people have been complaining about it why did they take you this long to actually get to the root of the problem till now they've not even told us what can be done about it i mean you just talked about barry was supposed to have a meeting and the meeting was cancelled and they still did not give any reason why that meeting was cancelled so at the end of the day even probably to the end of this week we still do not have a solution so that means we we're going to see a lot more bankers getting attacked i feel bad for them i'm sorry about that but people are actually frustrated and we need to find a way to solve this if not it's going to get i don't know into something else that we cannot even for tom nj i'm not sure if the plan like you know like i've always said the thought process behind this whole you know new policy the thought process you don't think about the people the end users these people are frustrated just like jennifer said you can see the the whole weekend there were videos of people going you know stripping all the way down to they you know as their birthday suits yes like i'm walking around and threatening people because you can't put a hold you don't even know if it has gone beyond the physical into the mental you don't know where you don't know someone's pain points and you know someone puts takes their had end money you say people should bring their money to the bank and they will get the new notes they bring their money to the bank and they can't even get the notes out they can't do transfer the whole system has been clogged up because it's obvious that we were not ready for this move i know the reason that the government has given for wanting this move to go ahead but definitely you did not think constantly about the the people and how it affects them at the end of the day this kind of thing is the outburst you will get for a situation like this and you know when i think about it i also say okay when is this heading to because with nigerians and with politicians there's always an end game so for me i'm looking at it and i'm like yeah i understand what the government is saying but being a nigerian and being in nigeria for so long i'm looking at this other part and i'm like but there's something here because you can't make a decision like this and not carry along everyone you have a purpose because if you wanted to do it for the benefit of everyone you would give enough time to sensitize or even if you're not telling us and you want to do it abruptly you would at least make the necessary arrangements because isn't there they could have had meetings with the banks and you know prepared everyone for what was about to happen now you see people a lot of people frustrated i saw a video in our first bank in a biokuta burning because people have gotten so frustrated but at the end of the day you're asking the people when you bond the bank how are you going to get your money so so do you think this is a plan to trigger unrest mary let me come to you um do you think it is a plan to trigger unrest because you are the one that was advocating for cashless cashless cashless now today i did a couple of transfers there's a particular bank i had to call the people that come do you have a different bank account because this particular bank i've been trying and it's not it's not going right the transfers are not just not working um so do you think you know this particular thing that is going on now is the is just a plan to trigger unrest because again that is one speculation that is going around and we can't see right even though they are claiming that no that's not the plan and all of that you can see that people are getting to the point of is it there's a lot of agitation now we have to be extremely careful but let me hear your thoughts mary on this and do you think you know we should it's okay for us to blame the bankers for this um how how how this has degenerated to um i think that is unfair that they get the blame but they they would have to suffer for it because you're dealing with the masses not everybody is as educated or you know as calm as we are to say okay we don't have cash like these people are angry they are angry they are um my colleague entered one chance bus this morning and they beat her i i've i've not heard from her i've not seen her i just know that she she sure got herself to my head office and she was beaten and now that's because yeah because every the insecurity has increased and i'm beginning to think that you know what this might just be a political propaganda like because of the elections and that might not have been the intention from the beginning but over time maybe they've saying okay yeah you know well maybe we can get away with this because there's money scarcity there's no foil you know what else is remaining people are burning places down there's a protest in a bureaucrat someone was shot stray bullets you know all of these things are happening and i'm thinking i'm not sure this was the exact plan of eme fele and cb and govno so definitely this is this is happening because of the elections i'm very much sure that this is becoming a propaganda it is very unfair that the bankers are going to take the heat but if people as if cb and is saying that they've released a certain amount to the bank then why won't you put the money in circulation so maybe they should be visiting the head offices but because of how high the security they might not be able to you know do all of these things there because that's where the people are sitting like you said who gave the order the same thing for answers who gave the order for the shooting nobody knows but the people on ground are suffering for it the poor staff who is a contract staff ending 100 000 is now climbing fans to go home or has to dress down so that when she comes out she doesn't look like a banker and people don't attack her even driving driving now to the studio people the people on the streets i'm scared driving because everybody looks angry i look like someone is just going to hit my car just for saying you as in you even have car you don't have fuel to drive do you understand and there's also the room of like what exactly are we doing maybe they should just bring the elections closed let's have the elections and let's know what next we're doing in this country because everything is a mess everything is a mess and it seems like it's a calculated mess that's what i think somebody had told me that because i want i'm curious to know when cbn said they released the funds right i'm curious to know how much they truly released to these banks because somebody had said that see the way the cbn thing works me i'm not in the finance sector but the way it works for every money that leaves the cbn right it is tagged even they as a bank they have no authority to move it to another branch you understand so if they brought it to plus tv africa branch you cannot move it to legally ior in the branch you have to it has to stay the cash has to stay there because that is the law it is illegal you can be arrested do you understand so now it's it then keeps a lot of people wondering who is lying who is saying the truth yeah because but you see now the where the the bankers now like almost like shot themselves in the foot was these videos that now came up you understand where on the uh in their vaults you saw so many new naira notes hidden behind the old naira notes so so that just made a lot of people say oh okay it means because if you notice it was after the after the videos that surfaced that we started seeing all these attacks on banks you know it was after those videos of it because it's not so even we had this money because it was so painful to watch i told you people last week people were counting to 2020 naira you know 2020 naira 50 50 naira and it's not even the clean one very ugly looking 2020 naira that was what and it is you couldn't even take beyond 2009 so if this like you rightly said that is a calculated mess what to what end is it because now if there's any uproar or if there's any unrest it just destroys everything it it makes a mess of everything because everybody right now cities now i saw a letter i sent it to the group i was trying to confirm if it was true about suspension of you know fuel and all of that if that happens what what happens to all of us you know well let's take a break and when we come back from the break we want to continue the conversations on the attack then if you have any information about this banking situation please call us and let us know what you have says we'll we'll be right back all right thanks for staying with us if you just tuned in we're discussing this our naira strategy and we're asking is it okay that we attack our bankers and please let's hear what you have say remember you can join the conversation send us an sms or what type of rate one 8034663 you can also twitter that's at weishu apka one with the hashtag weishu now our phone line is now open the number to call is 07025007749 that's the number to call i mean let's remember that these bank people are people's fathers mothers children you know aunties on coast they are human beings right because you see all this jungle justice thing that we do over the weekend i watched the movie that linda keiji released on the alufo or more i cried like like i couldn't stop i had a headache for two days after crying because the thing was just too painful to watch so no matter how agitated you are you do not have the right to take the laws in your hands right so for me i think us attacking bankers we're only just going to make this thing worse because whoever it is that has put this plan and is looking at us like a chessboard moving the moving the moves and all of that we are just pulling into their hands because again if we as a people do not learn the act of you know calm and patience right we will fall see because if there's any unrest now we always suffer we'll not even be discussing money money a narrow shortage anymore true you know so i'm just saying it's it's it's it's a bit of you know it's troubling for me to to to just keep watching this video surface online but i think we have our first caller for the evening all staying from being in your life thank you for calling hi good evening to you all good evening the the truth of the matter is that between the cbn and the bank we don't know who is saying the truth and who is lying but what thing we can debut cbn was not prepared for this they were not prepared and they they just now decided and if you look at this whole thing there's a some element of politics in it why now that we have prepared an election that you want to do coloring of the naira and what have you and why must you put a deadline when another client it is not like that i mean we have had naira exchange in this country in the past it was not like this it took some time so why this deadline the man was insisting he wasn't okay today now he's been in uh the governor had a meeting with the cbn people and they said they were bringing in or they brought him one billion or something and the deadline was supposed to be on it so if he's mad that you're just bringing in new money and you wanted the deadline to be set the first of uh of a general it means you were not prepared so amazingly have to be blamed for all this is the one that has put us in this mess and Nigeria has but not forgiven for this thank you all see you know let me say that it's not only cbn that wasn't prepared even the banks were not prepared for this right cbn did not emphasize it see let me tell you something this thing would have been very easy let me tell you how i think it should have gone cbn releases the funds right the plan is they don't want us to be bribed with money abhi what what's case scenario you say 100 k limit for individuals daily and 500 k limit for uh more corporate organizations daily at least the cash there's no way the amount of cash they would have used you understand they would have they will be able to withdraw it you understand for the before the elections they will not have been able to withdraw all that money you understand put at least put a limit to say okay 100 k for individuals or even 50 k for individuals and maybe 300 k for corporate organizations so whatever it is do the remaining transactions online they will not be all of this drama but that you don't even give people people don't want to collect 5000 nera you understand they don't have money doesn't even make sense to you but i think we're missing something and this is it we talk as if these powerful people will soon not have access to this cash that is what i am believed with this is what i am being told that a lot of big men that bankers used to come and bring money to their offices even they don't have the money i don't believe it okay and i don't think it's true because nigeria is a bribery and corruption immersed country it bribery and corruption is like our bread and butter so if these powerful people want to have access to cash they will have access to cash so you don't believe us in any case no i believe once you bribe the right person you will get the money they will give you cash how did the people you know if you always can get that cash if they can get it you've made a video of people at a wedding they've arrested them with bulk money with bulk money and guess what this is the one you're talking about i saw another one like um last weekend a different wedding and i saw women with stack of cash what are we saying from abia states you are live oh good evening my sister in the house good evening yeah see this question that you are asking first and foremost i want to tell the ruling class the people that initiated this policy they want to stop for people so that when the time comes people will now be collecting money from politicians so vote to change their conscience this is the reason why we haven't decided this vote by you this is another system of vote by now with the question it is it is okay so attack back as yes it is very well okay okay look at the one that the one that pack money in a way to come here in one way again in one way another say some of the back they will tell you there is no money there is no money the way you will talk to you the money you strike hard to deposit in the bank the one who is using more and still it is no longer your money that's very sound very it's actually very upsetting it is it is upsetting because we still deal heavily with kajen if i want to say something now come to you mary yeah i mean you you said oh so it's fashion line i mean let's look at the ensar's protest after the ensar's process he was doing fbi work i don't believe i don't believe anything these people say i'm sorry i don't believe it because you can't tell me in in time pass we've seen that you have access i mean the other day they had told us oh bulion van made a mistake and entered one certain person's compound how how did a whole bulion van miss its way in this same nigeria to god i've sent them my address there's a mistake and enter our house is too because what are we what are we saying the truth is we need to ask what is the end game and i i believe as time goes by these things will unfold and i really hope that it is not so bad but do you agree with olomad saying that he he thinks that this is a way of actually enhancing enhancing would buy so take take for instance for a long time i am out of cash as somebody just comes and one goes uh five k in front of me somebody that i've been struggling i would jump yes so do you believe do you agree with him i agree i agree i honestly agree anything i think it's possible because i think we have a lot of loopholes in nigeria that's the major issue and once there's a loophole like this whole thing this bank po s transaction kind of business once there's a loophole there are always a nice population of people who are willing to exploit that loophole people just take advantage of the situation and that is what is happening let me take i think we have a caller somebody see on the line hello i don't know give you if you go and attend this so the thing is even i didn't know that bank still had 2020 naira and 2015 naira even five naira in the about it yes i can't remember last time i saw that you know i didn't even know they had all those denominations in the about until this thing happened and it was not like i was told it was in front of me the banker was telling the two girls okay it's 3000 each i'm going to give you a 50 15 naira they looked at each other you know this is somebody 53000 naira each and 50 15 naira notes i mean i don't know what 15 naira can do to you even to pump my tire the time i went to kaduna and i wanted to pump my my mom's tire and she said oh that was 15 naira i looked at her in shock another thing again you know there's a legos thing and there's other parts of Nigeria because again i mean we might be complaining here so people are excited collecting the 2020 naira i still see people sparing 10 10 naira 55 naira 2020 naira in part is up north so the money is still maybe much valuable to them but you know it's just a different you know scenario here but i think we have Steve from Lokoja you're there your life ah eclair truth yes your life go ahead yeah good evening good evening yes i i want i did the and the bank each of the bank very well any one of the bank sound called the manager and the accountant who have the field to give out this money to the equipment should be the herd responsible and the punish because they survive this money don't get to the the cashier at the counter before them so the manager and the accountant of that branch who waits for politicians although he is a party and they give them this money and they collect their commission or percentage or whatever the manager wants to be arrested not this ordinary contact thank you thank you but but you see i like what you're saying and that's what i was saying to you you don't attack people because the question i was going to oppose to him was if you then attack what do you think the ripple effect will be yeah you understand just gonna have burnt up bank to just become another jungle justice right yeah the i hear that some bankers are being picked up by the security operators i hear that you know some have been arrested some have been picked up you know anybody is linked to anything they are being picked up i mean the lady that we saw in the video last week or was it two weeks ago sprain money she was also picked up by the fc the security operators i don't know which is what now whether it was efc of dss but there was a picture that of her that she had been arrested right so i mean if we start to arrest people do you get i i mean we will solve that problem of hoarding but the problem now of dispensing is my please the challenge i have just push the money out can we just say okay you know what for individuals you are entitled to a daily limit of maybe 20k or a daily limit of 50k therefore corporate maybe a daily limit of 100k or something because if i am sure that at least every day i can get 20k from an ATM if i go and withdraw money i will be right so it is the panic that has also caused this i am flooding of bank if i'm sure that i how much do they have in the accounts this is who that are queuing for hours how much do they really have in the account some of them barely have enough you know they're just managing their savings so at least if we give them access to 5k or 10k per day and they are sure that there's money everywhere they can withdraw but maybe this is where you put a system that locks the card that after that withdraw you're done for the day people would adjust right if you're trying to control the amount of cash in the system people would adjust but not to give people any money at all you are just creating disaster everybody doing racket they don't care for everybody they just care about what they you know what they stand to gain so we've been saying that this is a racket we there's something that's why everybody's thinking twice because there's something behind the motive there are different motives behind this there's the political one there's the money making one which is in between the bank that's transaction between the banks and the po s and cbn that we don't know who's giving whom money and how this money is getting to the po s people and why they have the authority to charge as much as they are charging because they are the only ones that have access to the cash how is it that you know governor of lego state can claim that he doesn't have cash but a member of a party can be one of the first people to actually touch this cash on live video so there's a lot happening and as much as we don't like to say lots we know that a lot is happening so we can't continue to pretend like nothing is happening a lot is happening we are just because we're lacking information and because they're holding information from us is the reason why we're having to think about and reason out what we think is going on let's take comment please we have so many comments let's take comments i think the worst part is over the weekend or towards the end of last week a lot of people were complaining that their bank are swearing where are we working what's coming then wasn't working so what am i supposed to do my friend said she went to the market yesterday she was only able to buy one item and that was the only person who was willing to accept transfer from her the rest all the vendors all said no to transfer that they wanted cash all of them said they wanted cash that they don't want to do transfer so when she told me i was like but there's no cash now she said that she left the market and went back home so i have a comment here from austin from delta states he said that some cbn monitoring team were filming the cash or that some cbn monitoring team were filming the cash stocks in the vote is on call for because of security reasons i agree if not playing to the gallery what they needed to do is to promptly take such offenders away and hand them over to security agents for quizzing where they may be confessing collaboration with politicians as a conspiracy theory suggests again those attacking the banks and officials are taking risks did you hear from the flaying officials if hawks have arrived delta hawks is a security striking force comprising army police and other security forces what if the rampaging mob are tagged as androbars going to cut money away from the votes and senselessly open them fire on them the cbn governor and the politicians are merely pulling rules over our faces there is something they are not telling us but attacking banks is a risky venture redesigning is normal but naira shortages are evil and devilish politicians know what they are doing the best way to protest is visiting politicians compound for protest but not to harm them on parties who stand against day shifting should think twice i have greetings ladies what if the grand plan and strategy for the cashless claim is to truly apply the story of starlin in russia starlin once ripped all the feathers of a life chicken as a lesson to his followers it says he then said the chicken on the ground a short distance away the chicken was bloodied and suffering immensely yet when starlin began to toss some bits of wheat towards the chicken it followed him around by the time the people are adequately stabbed before the election vote buying becomes easy for the politicians might talk that's from benson and we have another comment saying good evening my beautiful sisters of way what are you saying ways naira shortage is it okay to attack bankers we can only lay our complaints verbally but i will go with my beautiful sister jenny i'm not in support of violence and i never will be i really cannot wait for february 25th to vote out these people that have injured this country badly they don't deserve to stay longer i would ask god to forgive me for voting this government into power i never knew it would be this bad this was not the change that they promised us they deceived us totally maybe i will go with my dear sister mary i think it is a calculated mess this is from daniel illo our ways regular fan all right let me take one more obi has shares in fidelity atiko has shares in one of the banks the two of the two of them are saying cbn should not extend this policy only one presidential candidate is with the masses if nijuans know the amount of money the banks have made on transfer charges uh people will go crazy let's take your comment go ahead nigerian nigerians are really suffering at the moment and the banking industries are in shambles the ordinary nigerians are just helpless and cbn should stop blaming the banks but to tell nigerians the truth this is the worst cbn governor in the history of this country i am sure even community bank manager cannot be behaving the way nigeria apex bank governor is handling the human disaster going on this is rafael from xaria so i have a comment here that says it is really unfortunate that we are now as a country a banana republic we saw what is happening now in the financial sector some years back in the political life of this nation with this apc when our president was nowhere to be found to address our nation with many issues bedeviling the nation and we all kept quiet because we all seem to believe did them we all seem to believe they did not affect us with their actions in terms of our money but now they know the only way they can control us all i'm sorry but now they know the only way they can control us all is by controlling our individual financial power and strength in fact the whole thing is geared towards political and financial control of our lives we should expect more attacks this is from sanctus i promised myself i was not going to shout today because people may say vampire but i just want to appeal to nigeria if you're listening please this is not the time to instigate violence in any shape or form because the truth is you do not know where it can escalate to i mean answers there was an agitation but again people would always in the midst of all of those things it was genuine but you would have evil elements also planting you know what's he called their tugs in the mix of all of this at the end of the day you will not know who is the tug and who is the real person we don't want loss of lives the bankers are our family members right they are just doing their job so attacking them you know it's not the way forward we have to find more creative ways you know to air our grievances or find solutions to whatever challenges that we have what attacking bankers is a no no and please if we can by any means talk to the next neighbor talk to anybody let's just keep talking to ourselves so we don't lose any life because we are angry and upset that's my appeal i didn't come to to to say i just came to beg people that please they are not the problem there is a deeper problem that we need to uncover but these people are not the problem they are just what's it called when they say unfortunate well they are just of there's a word they use you know these ones are just you know you are caught in the line of battle so they are just like they are not your they are not yet they are not thank you so much nj thank you jennifer and mary all right so before we go follows across all our social media handles that waste your african can interact with us further drop a comment on more importantly follow all our engagements on social media like share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation now this is a very scary quote that was quoted from a police personnel says what do you note is that available intelligence reveals that certain unscrupulous elements have perfected plans to hijack this process he is referring to his electoral process escalating the situation into full scale chaos by shutting down and attacking places of interest which includes but not limited to inek facilities banks media houses schools correctional centers and all the critical infrastructure inclusive of looting major malls and business centers within the state i mean this was from the spokesperson of the police command now the truth is it's going to keep moving we are the faces that they see on tv every day if you understand so this attacks it's going to be like that so if we can't by any means let's start to talk to ourselves i believe if we talk to ourselves we'll be able to keep it you know nift in the board thank you again ladies we'll see you guys tomorrow at 8 p.m. after bring another great conversation to your screen enjoy