 He's a GM of the Jets Mike. It's Mike Don and Peter. How you doing? I'm doing good. How you doing guys? We're doing great. So let me start off with the question That's out there rumor that was starting the athletic that you and gays are butting heads and that your job is in jeopardy your answer to that I Would you know I would say again like I said here in comment on my job set as a situation, but I Have a very good, you know working relationship with Adam. We get along really well We work I thought we worked very well together this process and but no I think Those are the things, you know, I think everybody always wants to look at situations and stuff like that But like I said, we have a good situation here and very excited about what we're doing and we're working together going forward now Obviously, it's dumb of me to ask about your job status. I'd have to have Chris Johnson on so that's a good point by you But do you wonder where this comes from? I mean when there's smoke like this was somebody would write it for a established site like the athletic Is there something to it that you have disagreed on something that it's that the media is turning into something bigger than it is You know, I don't say like I said it again I don't feel that way internally like I said, we've worked very well together, but that's good. It's not something You know, Chloe Frank. I'm really focused on I think there's so many things within the building in terms of doing the job That you know when stuff comes out in the media again, it's not something we really try to focus on I'm more concerned with Working together with Adam in the building and everything I said has gone very well I've quite enjoyed working with Adam and I've said this on a few different occasions like one of the things like he has a really good sense of humor We kind of you know, obviously really brings a lot of levity to a lot of the stressful environments We're kind of working through these processes, but but again, I don't again I'm more focused on the job that job at hand and again I can't really go worrying about tracking down stuff from the media All right, it seems like you had a home run with Williams at three But how close did you come from trading that pick away? You know, I think it was it was a lot of things a lot of calls before the draft like leading up to it And but when push came to shove they're really again, we had a few teams kind of inquire But not to the point of you know putting stuff On the table that made us feel we want to move out of that pick. We felt very good about Quinn and But that's what happens sometimes sometimes you get a lot of interest at least a lot of phone calls and conversation before the draft And it really depends on you know, what other teams are looking for if there's certain players are looking to target But when all things when they all kind of unfolded, you know, there really wasn't anything there from an offer standpoint We feel good enough to move on and we're very happy to take Quinn and and very excited to see what he can do with us Now everything I've heard about this guy Mike It's like it looks not just a home run But a grand slam where people can't find a negative about this kid that this kid many people have projected as the best player in The draft do you feel like that about him? Yeah, yeah, we feel very good about him I think when we put our board together, he was literally at the top of our board and You know the very young player I know a lot of people said he only you know had one more or less really productive year of college football But when you really went back and looked at what he put on tape this year against the competition he played against Weekend and week out there really weren't any games in there We felt you know that was kind of an off-gamer bad game. So And again, I want to just literally turning 21 Very young kid who we think has a very very bright future and he just didn't again like we kind of feel he just beginning to scratch The surface his potential and gives some of the very big athletic player that you know Not always a good player verse to run but also the ability to you know, push the you know Push the pocket from the middle and generate pressure, which is again a very good thing to have and we'll definitely help us going forward All right polite was your next pick and there's been rumors of immaturity Character issues, how much did that factor into selecting? Was it a tough selection because of those things? No, I think you know, we do a lot of things we'd go back and really research these players I think there's risk with every player more or less when you go into the draft process And I think with to Kai, you know, he did not have a you know again a great spring as some other guys have had We thought very highly of him. You know, we kind of value it Montape We spend a lot of time evaluating the player obviously from a you know from a intangible character standpoint Both at Florida and we had the ability to interview him in the combine and actually bring him in here to you know Spend a day with him here in New York But like a lot of things, you know, there's definitely, you know, I think it's it's really up to him But he wants it, you know, how he wants to come along I think we felt very good about not only his ability and potential But in the end we thought there was you know, it definitely created an environment for him here where we think, you know He will hopefully come in and help, you know fulfill his potential and we're excited about working with him And I think if you know, he does feel that potentially he'll give us a very Athletic edge rusher who was very productive in and probably one most competitive conferences in college football So we're excited about having him and it's about work with him going forward Let's drop down to your six pick a guy that I respect texted me said the Jets got themselves in absolute steel in Austin from Rutgers Yeah, he's had some injuries, but this kid can be great. What are your thoughts on Austin? Yeah, that was you know, that was our last pick in the draft and When we're sitting there, you know, we're trying to again It was an interesting this way this year was kind of interesting in terms of trades We were you know, I think in different times either, you know looking to I think with the first pick We're entertaining potential offers to move back early. We tried to move around the draft a little bit I think there was some, you know, there are a lot of teams that opted to take players not trade picks But that was one when we were sitting there kind of late in the draft You know our scouts and coaches we've had some exposure to them from our scouts over the last few years Our coaches evaluated them. They liked them quite a bit We obviously knew there was a bit of a risk with the injury our doctors got involved with Sort of the prognosis part in terms of you know, how he looks at this stage of his recovery He did actually run and try to test in time, but he's obviously not near a hundred percent ready From from that standpoint, but he's a kid that you know We thought from an upside and potential standpoint He had a chance to you know be a player that could you know definitely play and contribute We'll see what the ceiling looks like. I think prior to the injuries I mean there was some you think he'd be still you know managed, you know progress He'd have an outside chance of maybe even develop into a starting caliber player of some sort But no a very big athletic corner. There's obviously some risk with the injury But you know, we like them from a character standpoint We like them, you know where he is in terms of his rehabilitation process and you know again if he can come through for us and Gives us a you know a shot at having a very athletic big corner that can hopefully come in and contribute So like only two offensive players an offensive lineman and a tight end and no wide receivers Is that because you felt like you adequately addressed that in free agency or there just wasn't anyone When you came to pick you thought had value at that position Yeah, you know it's not having you know, I think not having as many know a lot of ticks sometimes we do get into the draft You're you're trying to obviously focus, you know, try make sure you take the best player available And there were some situations where we were able to add Obvious in edge rusher in the third round along with an offensive tackle who we liked And receiver, you know, I think we feel good about our receiver position Especially what we did in free agency and then getting obviously Robbie and Q back And we do have you know, Burnett did a nice job for us last year And obviously peaks a good special teams player for us, but I think going into the draft It was a position, you know, we'd like to have added to But really when the picks kind of came up and there are a few Scenarios we're trying to work around and try to you know move up or move around to target certain players It just didn't quite work out that way, but you know, I think the players we got at the venue when we took them work guys guys we felt good about as prospects and At sometimes it's just how the draft works out There's you know, you may like receivers at various points, but yeah, maybe you have other players You just feel more strongly about and I've said this before sometimes when you reach for players or try to film You know reach for needs or factor in needs. Sometimes you always run the risk of You know, maybe, you know Causing a player, you know, maybe not to pass on a better player that turns out to have a you know Have a better chance of fulfilling this potential when you may sort of turn our reach for needs And only having the picks we had and we tried to actually get more picks at various times and move around and move back but You know, we kind of in the end felt we got some good prospects and then sometimes guys there were Maybe not many but people are seen to be a need for us But guys that we felt were good players for you know, hopefully come in and contribute and build with going forward in a perfect World would you have liked to take a center? You know, I think that was a position we and there were some good centers in this draft And I think some of them kind of you know more or less went earlier in the draft But there was it knows that was a position we looked at but again Sometimes they just weren't you know the best prospects on the board weren't centers when we're sitting there trying to make picks or definitely times We've tried to move around or move up But again, unfortunately and sometimes it's you always have to take two You have to find a team that wants to actually move the pick and as opposed to take a player So but it worked out that way, but we still and I always tell people it's where you know We're not obviously playing our first game next week or playing our first game months from now We still have quite a bit of offseason left. There's still some guys in pro-frequency that are out there You know, there's obviously, you know potential trades as you go forward and quite frankly we get to the final waiver where I cut There's if you go everybody goes back and look at some of the roster transactions at the final cut down There's you know veteran and rookie players that either get terminated or waved that you know that you know Turn out to be good players and We're gonna obviously look at all you know all areas that make our roster as competitive as possible for that first first regular season game Mike I know he didn't violate any rules because it was voluntary But did it bother you at all the bell was a no-show at the voluntary minicamp, you know I think the the one thing we always you know, this is our CBA and this is you know players have the ability to come in You know leave gun did come in for a bit and But again, you know, it's one of those things, you know, again, it's voluntary So like with all the players, you know, we you know, it's their decision to be here or not But but he's you know, he's he's a pro and he's taking care of his body and been played at a very high level So we obviously feel good about that But again from our standpoint, you know, it's a voluntary process and the player, you know, it's really up to the player Before we let you go I'm always curious. So you have Sam Garnold. He's your quarterback of the future So when you're preparing for this draft Mike, do you ignore the quarterbacks or do you do you study? Tape of them and do you do you talk to them or you just say hey, we're set there Well, you know, it's interesting Mike. I think for the last few years We've obviously spent quite a bit of time on the quarterbacks and quite frankly with when we drafted Sam I literally was on the West Coast because obviously, you know, Josh and Sam both played just Rose and Sam Donald both played in the same city So when they both played home, it was very convenient to go out there and and they'd always staggered their games You can more or less evaluate two quarterbacks at the same time or a same day But it's fine I spent so much time working on the quarterbacks and pre, you know, more or less a year ago for obviously the draft when we got Sam that this year was kind of I think really just feeling so good about Sam and and how he played and his potential and We feel that we have a very good young quarterback and Sam Darnell and our focus now is obviously, you know Helping fill out potential but it was interesting this year. I spent I really didn't look at a lot of the high-rated quarterbacks that closely I mean, I think you You know, I think somebody asking once at the senior bowl, you know How one of the quarterbacks are doing and I was kind of like honestly like past years I could probably have a complete opinion on this whole day so far from warm-ups to every drill he threw But I don't really watch the guys throw about two times So we went through the process with the quarterbacks, but we didn't spend quite frankly as much time Myself personally on the high-rated quarterbacks So we more focused on sort of the back-end guys that, you know, maybe if they split in the draft We'd have a field for them and but most of those guys we felt we're gonna be fairly early round considerations We didn't really spend as much time on But that was actually a nice a kind of a nice feeling to have, you know Because of how we felt about Sam that you go into the draft feeling. Okay, that's an area where we you know We don't really necessarily have to focus as much of our attention on and we felt very good getting Trevor Simeon I think he's gonna come in and do a good job for us and then obviously Davis from a year ago You know did some nice things in her practice roster So we thought we've a good group there to work with and and we're kind of excited to go forward with that Hey, by the way too and and I was somebody had mentioned to me about The Peter is Peter getting a little heat today about the game of thrones. Yes I haven't I haven't probably pause me pause. I have not seen the game of thrones show from last night So I don't know anything that happened yet. So he's giving spoilers No, and I'm not gonna say anything Mike to you that you didn't and I didn't give anything away Just so you know though Your own organization gave away more on your social media account than I've given away on this show Well, let me just say this I was I not that I look on my our social media account But somebody said something about one of the characters in game of thrones And I was literally like I have no idea what that means But do not tell me because I have not seen the show last night So you realized that it's on you It's not on the rest of the world to keep quiet about it that if you watch the show and you missed it Then you know on Monday, you've got to do it I've been very careful not to like click on anything. It's like it's funny. Like I just don't want to Actually Truth be told I want somebody a friend of mine took me to the Avengers movie the other day And I'm not gonna tell a car talk about what happened with that But somebody I was that I was after the movie I was with somebody and they were like, oh, we're gonna go see it tomorrow And I was like, oh, yeah, I said, you know, and I started talking about the plot. No, don't tell me I was like, you know, all right. Sorry about that People get very The one thing that happens that I'll tell you Mike is in the middle of the episode John Snow drinks He drinks an orange vanilla coke Don't listen to Peter anymore Mike Disclosure to make sure nobody inadvertently says something about game of Thrones. No, no, you're safe I've got to ask you one final thing. I mean, I almost find it humorous that The media us include it we waste your time and you kind of all waste our time Do you ever tell the truth before the drafts do do GM's ever tell the truth to each other? You know, it's funny. I think it was I made my friends there at the cost I think it was Eric was said some little thing about you know, I know I think I think what happens with this Mike is that There's so much misinformation that comes out like and I don't know if you guys and this Megan Maybe the fans want to hear this but a year ago when we're sitting there, you know Getting ready for the draft and then we've moved up to three and we felt very comfortable when we made that move Hey, we feel very comfortable. We'd have a very good opportunity to second quarterback draft that based on all this stuff We've gathered information resource, you know, all that kind of stuff And we were pretty well positioned and a lot of people asked me like did you guys, you know expect Cleveland's draft? You know Baker and I said I said no I said honestly not until the day of the draft and I think and I and I know John Dorsey very well and consider my friend He's a really really really talented GM and it's funny like when you were following the media stuff and all that stuff And every week it was like I don't know if you guys remember this but every week was a different You know Cleveland really liked, you know, Josh Allen Cleveland really liked, you know, Josh Rose It was a different name every week at the pro day I was at the pro day and then I know they spent a lot of time with Sam and I don't think we even really at the pro day met With Sam that day, but I mean we met them briefly, but it wasn't like, you know, Cleveland was I mean The owner was passing was sitting up in the stands with them, which I'll see and that was kind of, you know, interesting But oh, so it's funny. So I think a lot of there's sometimes misinformation I think sometimes teams intentionally to want to, you know, put out small screens change stuff up I think we're so I mean, we really and I think there's more testament to you guys And you're part of the whole media probably, you know, all the media like there's so much from it's a different NFL now Because in the days of old it used to be a print media and they would be really well-connected writers I used to, you know, read Will McDonough and I always remember he was very connected with a lot of very very high-level people and You know, there would be stimpids of information come out But now with like the 24-7 news cycle and with all the information that's out there. It's like That's just different. It's a different, you know, it's a different environment So when you go and deal with the media, you're very careful, very guarded almost not too sort of, you know, let out some But do you ever tell somebody on the media something that's not true just to send a to get somebody off your scent? Honestly, no, I think the one thing the one thing one of the guys to work for many years ago It was a general manager told me it's like, you know, do not you know What you don't do is you don't lie to the media like you know, you can omit you can You never I don't I don't I mean it's it's a relationship. So I don't think it's you don't think it's right to be dishonest You can be you can you know, choose not to answer a question or you can you know, maybe, you know, not be evasive But you just you don't want to do anything It's gonna go into maybe hurt your team's ability to be successful. That's that's what it kind of comes down to But I don't agree with I don't know what I'm subscribed to or believe in to blatantly try to mislead or lie or be dishonest I don't think that's a good way to you know to have relationships with a lot of people in the industry basically that in and we all and again Between the media and the teams and it is all the business of you know sports or business of football. So it's If somebody with the fifth pick calls you and said Mike listen, I just want to know who you taking with the third pick Would you tell them? No, no, I'm actually a team. I've actually had teams a lot of teams when they call actually do trades. They're like Well, who you taking all if you told me who you're taking now Maybe do the trade with it, but no, I wouldn't never be like hey I'm so no so when you don't call a team and say we're trying to trade for a pick and these are the three guys We're gonna take you never do that now you may You may not you know, they may call back and say you agree to a trade You call that if our guys on the clock and they call back and you can be like a our guy You know our guy just went or a guy just went two picks ago or whatever the case may sometimes you may do that But you don't really do that very often. He's usually K. No, we're out our guys not there anymore You know, so gotcha. All right, go watch Game of Thrones Enjoy it. It won't be disappointed. All right. Have a good day. Not bad. All right. Take it easy