 I admit the decision we impose extra body on the masses of our people. I feel your pain. This is one decision we must bear to save our country from going under and take our resources away from the strangle hold of a few unpatriotic elements. Painfully, I have asked you, my compatriots, to sacrifice a little more for the survivor of our country. For your trust and belief in us, I show you that your sacrifice shall not be in vain. The government, I lead, we repay you through massive investment in transportation, infrastructure, education, regular power supply, healthcare and other public utilities that will improve the quality of lives. The democracy MQ Abiola died for is one that promotes the welfare of the people over personal interests of the ruling class and one where the government can find personal fulfillment and happiness. That is the hope MQ Abiola ignited throughout our country in 1993. On this year's democracy day, I enjoy all of us to rededicate ourselves to strengthening this form of government of free people that as being our guiding light this past 24 years. In particular, those of us who have been privileged to elect into a public office at various levels in both the executive and the... Alright, thanks for staying with us now in democracy day speech as you see the president implore the citizens to sacrifice a little more and promise that the government will repay them through massive investment in transportation, infrastructure, education, regular power supply, healthcare and other public utilities. Hours ago we got news of course that the student loan bill that was signed into law by the president, this bill that would enable student access interest free loans. Especially it's supposed to help students access interest free loans. Now life in Nigeria has been known to be about survival for the common man whose life is strongly shaped by many challenges and with the unavoidable subsidy removal. Things have gotten even worse especially for the everyday Nigerians. So today we are asking do Nigerians really have to suffer for this survival of Nigeria. Now please let's share what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to the very one 80384663. You can also tweet at us at WeishuAppleOne with the hashtag Weishu. Okay, this matter is a serious matter. Let me point out of course what he said, president. First of all he says there is a choke hold that some people have held Nigeria like this. Every time I hear people in authority say this, I keep wondering how exactly, how difficult is it for you to on choke yourself as a country. Then we remember when president's good luck Jonathan was complaining about the cabals. I don't think Buhari ever said anything around cabals or anything. But Aisha Buhari said. She said I think it was really, well she said they hijacked the government. So every time I hear this I keep wondering, okay. So let me explain how best I think that probably these people are not seen. I am a citizen. I have a father, no sorry I have a son. I have a life, right. And I keep telling my son every day there's no money in this house. There's no money in this house. You have to manage, you have to do this, you have to suffer. You can't go to quality school. You can't get good health care. You cannot eat good meals and all of that. Because we have to manage, we have to manage. And every single day my son sees me going out to go and drink a zoo in the club. He goes out to go and take a seat. Going for parties and doing all sorts of things, right. What do you expect would go on in the mind of my child? Is it that mummy is just really irresponsible? Or mummy truly does not have? Do you understand? Because that's the only explanation I think I can give whenever I hear these things around suffering. Nigerians have no problem suffering. We don't have any problem sacrificing. I won't call it suffer. I'll call it sacrifice. We don't have any problem sacrificing for the greater good of Nigeria. What we have a problem with is that when we are making those sacrifices, it seems to us that the people that are supposed to be preserving and protecting our resources kind of mismanage those resources. And we don't see that prudency, you understand. We don't see that transparency and that honesty in managing of the resources of Nigerians. So that's why whenever any leader comes up to say you know what, let us sacrifice and all of that, it is very difficult. So everybody that has this let me have my own share of the national cake now mentality. That's the best way I can explain it. You want to help me out? For me it's more like when the leadership talks about sacrifice. Like you rightly said Nigerians have no problem sacrificing. If it's for the greater good, I would sacrifice. But when the leadership is not sacrificing. So you would expect that if the president or the leadership says that okay you know what, we have to sacrifice because you know we have an agenda. There is no money. There is blah blah blah blah blah. You would expect that okay the people in leadership should show by example. First of all say okay you know what for the next couple of years we're going to take a pay cut. For the next couple of years we're going to do XYZ. We're probably going to travel by X, you know again. I mean this comes to even private sector when they're trying to cut costs. You have to manage your overhead. You cannot but reduce your overhead and then you tell your cleaner who takes some 15,000 to sacrifice 10,000 and then go home with 5,000. Meanwhile you are still flying your first class. I mean it's just totally unfair and I think that's what the government is doing. If you're going to be buying, I mean they just, this is a new national assembly. Before our very eyes we're going to see the cars they would drive. We're going to see the other one's seats. No no no but you see that's the truth. All these things in terms of fuel subsidy and all that. They probably do not, they won't bear the brunt of it. They don't pay for fuel. They don't. Let's go with a very short break. When we come back from the breakdown to get normal thoughts. You want to break my table? Stay with us. Alright thanks for staying with us now. If you just tuned in, we're having a conversation around the sacrifices that Nigerians have to make. We're asking do we have to suffer for Nigerian survival. Please let's hear what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to the red one. We can also tweet at us at the way show after the hashtag way show. Andiola was about to break my table. But let me go to Noma first and I'll come back to you. Noma, your thoughts quickly. Just piggyback of what you and Adiola had said initially. When I saw the topic of conversation this evening about Nigerians having to suffer for survival. The word that came to mind is exemplary leadership. Adiola had mentioned it when she said leaders are not showing example in the way that they're behaving. I mean a new administration has come in and at the beginning of any administration people are looking for opportunities for hope for some kind of encouragement, a kind of direction that will take away some of the pain that they have suffered over time. And beginning your administration with words like the speech and the way it was presented. And they're trying to pick up the pieces now with further speeches about Nigerians needing to suffer a little for the survival of the nation. I think in my opinion that that was mismanaged because when you are a leader part of the skills that you must pick up very quickly is excellent communication. So being able to communicate what you mean or say what you mean and mean what you say it's very important. And when people receive information they're going to interpret it based on what they believe that you are trying to communicate. So you have to be very careful in being able to do that and you start telling people that they have to suffer for the survival of the nation. As if it almost bothers on trivializing what they have been through up until now. But we have been suffering. Absolutely. Nigerians have been suffering. That's the only thing we know actually. Suffering is smiling. And then you got further reminding them that oh keep suffering in fact the suffering is even going to be more. I don't believe that that was the best way to pass the message that you wanted to. It's important that people know that for there to be progress there has to be some level of sacrifice that you have mentioned. But how you crafted is by way of vision when you show people where you are going. Thank you. The slogan that the administration part of one of the slogans if I remember correctly is that a leader knows the way shows the way goes the way. Right. So in that first instance you want to quickly activate some of those things that you have some of those. I don't want to call them promises but some of those goals that you had begun to sell to the people. And then you begin to craft that and then you begin to activate it immediately. So where people are seeing you say something and it seems that you're doing something else. The leaders are not showing any form of example because nothing has changed by way of telling categorically. These are the things that were starting from myself or starting from my administration or starting from my cabinet. These are the things that were activated immediately to show that we feel the pulse of the people and that we are ready to do what it needs to do to show that example to Nigerians. And they too can know that oh they are not in the struggle for themselves alone by themselves alone that they have a government that is mindful by word and by deed. Thank you Noma. The experiences of the average person then it can begin to make sense. Absolutely. And do you believe at all that this message has driven any point home so far? I'm so loving the conversation and I will re-emphasize that you see when people talk government should not always feel like it's everybody that loves to criticize. And I love what you said you just hit the nail on the head because whilst Jolla was talking I scribbled down plan and I put it in hysterics. Now let me explain how these things work. When I tell my son sorry you cannot go to a school that is expensive, you cannot get good healthcare, you cannot do this, you cannot do that. I will say to him you know how mommy goes to the club every day. I have cut that out any more. We are not going to. You know how we eat out every day. We will not eat out for three months. Exactly. You know how we go to go and buy ice cream and popcorn for you every week, every day in the week. And we cut that down to two times in the week. Do you understand? Do you know how we do this? I say okay know what we have shawarma bread in the house. We have this we have so we will start making our shawarma in the house. We will not go and buy it outside. We will make it within the house and make sure that okay yes it is homemade and we are patronizing ourselves. Now when a leader comes with that kind of structure everybody will file behind you. Because you see that statement was fantastic. Why you should have just finished it with that starting from my administration like normally as in like I said normally normal just rightly put it. Starting from my administration we are not going to do XYZ. Do you understand? Because this is what has been happening previous government. We see those previous government they had some money to play around with. We don't have a dime to play around with. Do you understand? Then you now say this is what we are going to be doing as a leader. This is what we are going to be doing. When you start that there is nobody that is insane. Now you now turn Nigerians to make sacrifices to suffer to do this. We already suffer. But we will be glad to even suffer the more because we now know that there is a direction. So let's move away from blanket statements. So even giving examples of cars I was even going to say that we need to address this conversation. Because some state governments I think was automatically said all the cars nothing. I mean a government is leaving office and it takes away everything. How do we stop those kind of things? Do you understand? Now even some state governments that we know that there is a car manufacturing company in Nigeria. Right? Yesterday or was it two days ago I saw a guy in or your state I believe. If I posted on Instagram if they could tag me I want to go and see that car. It's a truck because the solar panel on the top. These are Nigerian brands. Regardless of whether they have all the finesse or the aesthetics and all of that. A government that is serious to me will say okay you know what? We have made in Nigerian cars. We are going to invest in them. There is a time where all our heads of state drop all the push of cars. Right? I mean if you really want us to say you want I mean you really want us to suffer like you put it. Or you want us to make sacrifices. Let that sacrifice. Let's see an example of that what the sacrifice looks like. From the government we can't do business as usual. Now I would commend this president because I hear that not only this law has been signed. The one around electricity which gives capacity for different companies as long as you have the funding. You can create electricity which will solve a major problem in this country has been signed. But we know again Nigerians every leader should understand that Nigerians are coming from a very very edgy point. We are already edgy. We are not used to trusting our government. Right? So everybody is apprehensive. Everybody does not know they are on searching what is going to happen. But you see that law that has been signed it will change the face of electricity in Nigeria. It will change a lot of things. Do you understand? So all these things that we are talking about that businesses are suffering. Do you understand? All that music might become history if it is well implemented. We then brings me to my final point and I will come back to you Jeola. It is not the shortage of good policies or great policies on paper that we lack. I mean if you want to give it to various administrations they have fantastic policies on paper. Do you understand? Whatever happened to the implementation. Always the problem. Let me continue Jeola. So you see I mean from your last statements there is always policy. It is fine. It is all fine words. But the implementation of it. I am very disturbed. Okay. Yes. I mean for subsidies some people don't agree that it had to go. I mean okay. I mean that's on one part. Now we talk about suffering. Yeah. You say you're going to compensate with education. We healthcare and all that. But you see the government forgets something. That to even access these infrastructure dividends. You need money. So it comes back to if I don't have a disposable income. How do I access these infrastructures? So does it look like putting a card before the phone? Yes. It does. So my first point of call would have been okay. So from that subsidy that's income. How do we channel? How do the people have some form of respite from it? And really at the end of the day it goes back to minimum wage. You must increase minimum wage. You cannot let people. I mean what is 30,000? What is 30,000? Just walk into a supermarket and come out. You know what 30,000 is. One nylon. It's not even up to one nylon. That's the sad thing. So now okay BRT yes you've provided transport. There is adequate transport. But I need money to get on the bus. If I don't have that money. How do I enjoy this so-called infrastructure? It's just there. And before you know it. It's just going to be dilapidated because nobody is using it. If people just feel okay. You know what? Let me just stay at home. Because I'm barely surviving. Now you're focusing on the big picture. And like I always say. Governments, I don't know. There's a disconnect. They feel that people are very interested in the very big things. People are really really. I mean at the core of it. People are just about basics. I want to eat. I want my kids to eat. I want them to be able to go to school. I want to have a roof over. I mean let me shock you. Landlords to have increased rents. No hope. No ma let me cook. As we wrap up. It's really unfortunate. And I really look forward to the time when we would have government that is an example through and through. Where we have people who are servants. Right? Who have pledged to serve people for what it is. And then show example in their actions. And Nigerians at this point in time are seeking for integrity. They are seeking for transparency. They are seeking for whatever actions that you are asking them to take. That you are the first person to take the plunge. You are the first person to show by example that this is how you mean what you say. By leading with example. It is what I don't know. The administration is still very fresh. They still have time to go back to their think tank. And readdress or review reassess their strategy in order to get things done. And in order to carry the people along. Because leadership is about vision. Leadership is about showing the people. How things are done. You say that you know the way. Then you go the way. You will show the way and then you will go the way. And these are the questions that are on the minds of citizens. You are telling us to suffer or to suffer for the survival of Nigeria. At what cost? And is it just Nigerians that are to suffer? And then the leaders are to enjoy the dividends thereof. How can they not have segregated it? Are the leaders not Nigerians? No, at this point. At this point, it is open to contest. I am telling you. But let's take comments quickly. Okay, so I have here. The president's speech is a mockery of the poor Nigerians who Ainek declared that voted him into power. Leaders should lead by example by firstly cutting down on what they earn. And then arresting their friends who have stolen and embezzled public funds. Secondly, the student loan is another means for embezzling public funds. Like the feeding of children by the last administration. I personally believe that Nigeria's state has been captured by the ruling cabals. It is a pity for the country I love so much. My name is Paul from Egbeda. It's so interesting. But I want to say to Paul that I do not subscribe to that idea of arresting people that have stolen money. You know what I am saying? The truth is that if you really want to arrest, you arrest. Even the person arresting, you arrest. We arrest. Jonathan, that's how bad this issue of embezzlement and stealing of public funds have gone. They should just negotiate. Jonathan, negotiate. Orga, you took ten billion. You go, return nine, take one. Jonathan, that kind of negotiation should be happening. Because really, if you say you want to go that route of what's it called, arresting problem. You know this happened during Bwari's first term. The fear of Bwari being a disciplinarian. A lot of people were submitting themselves to the authorities. To say okay, you know what, I want to return some amount of money. But they now saw that it's alright. Noma, you have a comment. Okay, so this one says, good evening my dear beautiful sisters of what are you saying, hashtag ways. Do Nigerians have to suffer for the survival of Nigeria? The answer is yes. Why I say yes is that according to my dear beautiful sister Noma, she made mention of paying the price before things can be put in place. And before we can start enjoying ourselves. But this kind of suffering that we're experiencing now is too harsh and not the kind we wanted. As if they emptied all their venom on us. If things have to be in place, then we need to improve the electricity system, security, education, agriculture, good roads and all other essential amenities. My dear beautiful sister Deola said we need to improve the minimum wage if possible double or triple it, which is key and I support. My name is Daniel in the ways regular fan. Thank you so much Daniel. I think we'll continue this conversation tomorrow. And the direction I want to go on the conversation would be, what will put in the horse before the cat meets in Nigeria. In the sense that now we've seen all of these things, beautiful, signing the electricity bill, signing the what's it called the student loan bill. Fantastic, right, taking out subsidy, great. They are all good things. But you see where I want people to understand, I mean do a survey. There's something called design thinking, right? You go and check from the people what do you want, then you then come back, right? That's how it works. Don't think you know what I want. So I want Nigerians to be able to tell us what exactly would, what exactly would support mean to them, right? What exactly would it mean if I say, okay, you know what I want to sacrifice. What would that sacrifice look like in my head? What are my sacrifices? I don't know how we're going to coin that topic but hey, that's the direction I want us to. So almost like a follow-up from this conversation because actually this conversation deserves to go all month round because this is what we say make we suffer now, look we survive, make it, which is well. But thank you so much Jola and Noma. I think we had a very, very fantastic conversation if I can say so myself. Now before we go and show you follow us across all social media handles with the hashtag we show you can interact with us further, drop a comment and more importantly follow all our engagements on social media like share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation. If you missed our quote by the president, it says I admit that the decision will impose an extra burden on the masses of our people. This is one decision that we must bear to save our country from going under. And we'll see you guys tomorrow. Live at 8pm as we bring another great conversation to your screen. Enjoy.