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No video for today's podcast so I just want to open up right away to let you know there's no video just the audio you can always listen to this on any podcast app if you're just doing audio video will be back I just moved into a new place and I don't have internet yet because we got two holidays so as soon as I get internet which is tomorrow video will be back enjoy the show thanks for watching love you it is November 11th and we're back with talking baseball there's been a lot of little moves made we got free agent fits and twitter questions let's do it all right everybody welcome back to talking baseball how's everyone doing welcome back to the show it feels like it's been forever feels like it's been forever since you've been gone that's a good song for about a minute then it got played out huh I take it back it was a good song my name is Jimmy I'm coming to you from New York City and I got my good friend Jake coming to you from Denver we're here to talk some baseball we got actually some good stuff to talk about Jake we were texting yesterday and I said hey what are what are the topics we got awards coming up and we're going to cover those later in the week then you said you wanted where free agents fit we took some twitter questions and then I just went and did some groundskeeping like what's the news that's been happening there's some fun little things they don't mean a lot but they have they open up to some good conversations but first and most importantly hi Jake how are you doing hello James good morning I'm doing well uh had a nice little weekend we had a nice little one of those Denver 70 degree days went to the park just enjoyed it little park day we have our first flurries coming I know you already got snow there yeah we got a couple flurries we're getting a couple flurries now these might be the flurries head in your way but yeah man I'm good you know it is as a baseball fan there's a little bit of a frustration that that's not like free agent frenzy right now like we're not on here yelling like ah moustach has just got signed ah but uh baseball doesn't work like that right now we uh you and I have had some fun conversations in the past with our our friend Michael K and I think Jeff Poisson sent it to it recently that uh like hopefully baseball is going to create some sort of signing period at some point it was basically the original goal of winter meetings and winter meetings have now become not that but um I'm good man and yeah I think uh this the player fit uh thing I'm I'm pretty excited for because it's I don't I don't think some of them are necessarily hyper realistic but it'd be like yo this would be such a fun signing and realistic because XYZ yeah I'm excited to hear what you got I was trying to think of some stuff and I felt like all of mine were pretty cookie cutter pretty much like oh my god why are you making cookies during the show again I hope I don't make cookies this year all year you start making cookies for Christmas and you just fucking give up and you just now you're eating cookies every day it feels like you guys are gonna make one batch of cookies first Christmas around the city yeah we gotta get into the spirit get in the fucking spirit man hey how is your how how are how are you spiritually I'm good so I know that we usually have people watch this on YouTube we're recording via FaceTime and our mics so uh on YouTube I probably made a video to open it up saying just audio here's why but so it's a little different my room is still echoey I took some couch cushions and threw them on the floor hoping that would help a little bit so when I did the breakdowns it was like every comment was like echo there's an echo fuck yeah there's an echo I don't have furniture for this room we won't have furniture for this room for another couple weeks because we're getting it from California whatever doing well it still feels like we're Katie and I are tourists in New York City like we don't live right we don't live here yet we haven't we haven't even taken the subway anywhere we don't have like a commute yet you know so there's some things like we went grocery shopping we've ordered a lot of food when you stop that but I'm liking our apartment and where we're living is quiet it's like way quieter than I ever thought Manhattan can be pretty yeah that's a that's pretty cool man I'm as you know I'm happy for you um yeah and it's so funny how much like the comfort of internet it's like there's probably books written about it because it when when you move in somewhere new and there's that five days or a week when you don't have internet you get that feeling like if you if you go away to college and you come back to your parents house for the first time and you're all excited and you're like yes I'm gonna be home and then you sit on the couch for two minutes and you look around at your parents and you're like okay what do we do now this is different yeah it's uh like we made do I downloaded the full season one of succession the HBO show so I've been crushing through that but yeah like when we didn't have a couch that was shitty because we never placed like hang out the two of us or like sit on the bed and then we're gonna go to sleep we're both big nappers or sit at the kitchen table and just look at each other without internet we never need board games or anything but we kept busy Jake you said there wasn't any big news which I think is pretty fucking rude to chat span burger oh I was gonna I had I had a segue of the year lined up I was gonna say speaking of succession Scott Harris Scott Harris the GM's hired Scott the GM's the Giants hired Scott Harris as his GM I currently don't have internet as we record this so if we have I did I tried to do a lot of my research before the show Scott Harris was part of the Cubs World Series run and he's been working under Theo Epstein for a while so pretty good track record there I mean I don't know anything about Scott Harris sounds like a I'm gonna say boring name oh yeah a little bit 32 years old whoa kind of yeah part of part of this wonderkin what the fuck Theo passing the torch a little bit so yeah I've got two years for that he's been the director of baseball operations for the Cubs for five years and then he was the assistant GM last year and I guess from everything we've heard and and all the like all the actual insiders Besson and guys like that they said like this guy is one of the guys known around the league like he was going to get his opportunity it was just when but yeah UCLA MBA at Northwestern what can you tell me what he looks like he's so young I need to know what he looks like ooh I haven't seen him what do we think do we think glasses I think everyone every 30 year old in baseball looks the same they wear the same clothes he's probably got like slight stubble beard kind of like what I have but more in shape and like a picture in clean shaved a wafty poof hair okay so that yeah the two so he's got the wafty poof hair um he yeah clean face and I mean the one picture I'm seeing he's wearing he has that checkered collared shirt that every generic white guy has every yeah every 22 to 30 year old has yep yeah he's wearing a pull he's got like a pull over over yeah that's the that's the fucking I'm young and I work in baseball look yes yes uh so yeah that's that's got Harris if you had the uh if his if his wife mother had to brag about one feature like he's got those nice eyes he's got such a nice mouth what would it be good eyebrows his his mother would say like I love his smile but it's not like a great smile but it's a smile a mom likes okay okay yeah does have any noticeably bad features no no he's he's uh you're right I mean he does look like he's cut from the young baseball yeah yeah instead of the what was what was what program was I in a manager's training program he was on the he was on the fast track to become a GM program which I didn't get an application for yeah no no they avoided you which is tough so the giants tire him yeah what were you gonna say I was gonna say the Giants um I I just I dipped my toe in the water a little bit because I I read one article and it was talking about like yeah they've got money coming off the books blah blah blah um yeah I think it's really interesting I I feel like this next year is going to be very much kind of a throw some stuff out there and see what sticks like it's going to be one full serious rebuilding year like I was looking at their multi-year contracts I think they only have like three relievers on the books for next year they've already claimed a couple guys off waivers um but it's they've they've got their big money coming off in two years I think they've got Quado Posey um Brandon Belt a couple guys so they're like next year's the test year see who's going to stick then they're going to sign a couple guys and then the the year after that I think like Longoria a couple other guys come off so they're on they're on like a two-year rebuild plan yeah to me it seems like they very much don't want to compete next year and they might be anyone they have on the books might be up for grabs yeah I think if they can get off of them for the right price but I I think they're even willing to wait it out a little bit um just just bring up bring up some dudes let those contracts kind of run out their course maybe move them in their in their contract year but uh yeah and it's kind of the money baseball can be tough man and it like I was looking at some of the contracts it's like Johnny Quado 22 mil uh we'll see what he's got after being out a year Brandon Belt's getting 17 I don't think he's necessarily living up to that Brandon Crawford gets paid so they um it's definitely literally and figuratively the end of an era uh in San Francisco but yeah I'd say two three years they're going to be able to sign impact free agents and probably have a new couple couple new young bodies from the rebuild yeah they're still searching for a manager right now and they as far as we know the Giants the San Francisco baseball Giants have narrowed it down to three candidates so they got Astros bench coach Joe Espada raised bench coach Matt Catraro no way I apologize Catraro yeah and former Phillies manager Gabe Kapler now if they don't care about the next two seasons go with Gabe Kapler fuck it yeah like if you're just rebuilding go I mean if you're trying to win in the next two years or build a culture um a competent culture don't go with Gabe Kapler I don't think he showed anyone anything I don't understand why he's up for a manager's job Joe Espada is very interesting spent time with the Astros and the Yankees in the last four years and kind of knows the inner workings of both clubs and like you've been saying Jake both clubs are pretty much been doing it right not that they're the only two of course but they are two of the seven that have been doing it right for the last like five years so I like Joe Espada give him a chance I actually give Joe Espada a chance because if he doesn't work out you're rebuilding for two years and if he does then that means he's taken some of the Astros magic and the Yankees magic and sprinkling it on so I like Joe Espada there but again like I'm not in the interview room so like Joe Espada could have something terrible about him I don't know about whoa skeletons uh yeah I I don't know I I'm I don't think I'm rooting for anyone here I think it's it's it's really tricky it's okay so this year is going to be like full almost rebuild but then it's I don't know if I'm the manager I want to know what's the what's the plan for next year because like okay I'm probably going to finish this year with a record that's like 72 and 92 those games don't add up but sure somewhere around there not a math pod never been so okay so in year two are we going to be able to sign two three free agents and are we going to be able to be in above 500 team or am I going to be sitting there after two years of rebuild with two years of losing records and then that might be my one shot at being a manager so I I know they only get so many they only get so much pull when they're applying for a managerial job but I that that'd be something I want to know yeah well maybe they're asking but I don't think they have much say like I don't think any of those three are turning down a manager's job if it's being offered yeah no that's come completely right the other fun update and this is what I was yelling at you about is we had our first trade of the offseason yes the Toronto Blue Jays traded for Milwaukee Brewers right hander chase Anderson chase Anderson had two years of options on the books this this year for 2020 it's eight million dollars because he had a really good 2017 so they were hoping he was a stud so they put in an eight million dollar option hoping he's a stud and that's kind of a cheap price for a pitcher turns out chase Anderson good not great kind of just a fourth fourth fifth arm but he's he's not bad but not worth eight million probably worth like two million the Blue Jays are in dire need of a starting pitching so they said hey we'll pick up your options trade them to us and we'll pick up both options for 20 and 2021 and we'll give you a chat span burger I don't know who that is but the the Blue Jays are in desperate need for pitching and they got one guy like they need to fill out a rotation so now they have a fourth starter good job yeah and you're you're right I mean 2017 was a big year he had an ERA in the two two dots we haven't said the dots in a while that was fun yeah but it was a aberration uh yeah his ERA has gone up the the past couple years I mean it was four two last year which again and juice ball era isn't awful but yeah the Blue Jays they are confident we got excited about the baby Jays this year they have a lot of bodies for their lineup so the fact that they can get Chase Anderson and not have to do free agency games or anything like that and know that they have an arm that should be able to give them 150 innings and and give them a chance in games so I don't know I'm happy for them I I'm wondering if Milwaukee is more excited to get off the money and I think they're just taking a flyer on Spangenberger I looked at his minor league stats last year they weren't great but those were also the outlier so hey we we did it baseball big trade yeah I mean I think you if you're a Blue Jays fan definitely look for them to go get more pitching I don't know if they're gonna go out there and spend the top tier money but like you know maybe Tehran maybe Pineda Gibson maybe they go get that tier like someone from that tier yeah like Cole and Strasburg both to Toronto reported by John Boy tweeted at John Heyman okay Jake here are some just rumors that I don't want to talk about the rumors rumors rumors that the Cubs are gonna maybe try to shop Wilson Contreras around simply because they need to free up some money they have all these young guys that are all about to get paid and he's the least of the studs like they wouldn't want to trade him but he's maybe the least that can return the Rays are looking to sign a catcher there are so many catchers in this free agent market that you can get to split or you can there's like maybe Grandals the only one that you'd like for sure he's your starting catcher and a game changer at the position but there's a ton of options if you want to do that and I think that's all really there then there's some fun notes I have fun notes yeah I don't know just with the Cubs and Contreras it's it's kind of funny that David Ross the former catcher they were teammates it was like Contreras his first year but it's kind of funny that okay David Ross gets hired and he's obviously a catcher and now that rumors out there it feels like I don't know if David Ross took this job and he loved Wilson Contreras that this wouldn't be a discussion but the fact that it is makes me think he doesn't love Willie well I don't think this is coming from the Cubs I think it's coming from people who are analyzing the money that the Cubs have knowing they need to free some up eventually to pay other guys and knowing that Contreras is the odd man now like I don't think the Cubs are shopping this I think it's uh reporters projecting yeah I don't know I guess that if if it was a if it was a catcher that David Ross loved I don't think the reporters would be projecting that maybe who knows how he knows how he feels about him maybe the reporters don't it's just very this to me seems very money based not personal based at all just a rumor too so who knows then the other rumors that I said I didn't want to talk about at all or the Lindor trade because I just don't think it's happening but our dude Buster only had an interesting thought on it and this is I'll just read Buster only's quote from his article or podcast whatever it's from the Orioles were underwhelmed with the offers they received on their superstar infielder Manny Machado when they shopped him in the 2017-18 offseason with one season remaining of team control so perhaps Cleveland sees that and says maybe we should shop him with two years because then the offers will actually be like blockbuster offers if no one wants him for just one year and that kind of changed my mind a little bit I still don't think he's going to be moved but they may shop him now what are your thoughts on that that that comparison there yeah I mean I I like that because you're right I mean in today's major league baseball organizations value their prospects too much they're not going to trade for one season to Manny Machado to see if he's fully bought in and give up three of their top prospects like it just doesn't work like that Lindor yeah I mean it two years I mean you'd really have to pay the troll toll I'd have to go through the teams a little bit more and be like okay what team has a clear two-year window um and I mean would it be that everyone's talking about Didi Gregorius to the Cincinnati Reds because they need a shortstop you wonder if they could and hey those teams like to trade they did the Bauer trade um you know with would a team like that be like hey we would never be able to sign a guy like Francisco Lindor do we empty the bank of prospects for two years of something like this I don't know I think there's a chance I think if you're Cleveland you want a full payday you want like four prospects for Frank Elandor and I think a lot of the teams in baseball aren't willing and wanting to do something like that so I don't know I could see it happening but at the same time I'd have to I'd have to see the pieces come together in my head a little bit more I'd have to see a team that had a clear two-year window and had a couple prospects that they were kind of ready to punt on yeah and if you're wondering like why trade Lindor at all he's so good and he's in two more years of arbitration and he's gonna command like 16 mil both years so they don't want to pay that if they're like trying to rebuild they don't want to pay that for the next two years so might as well trade them and get superstars they could change their direction but they can also just compete with Lindor the Indians yeah piss me off you're good enough to compete fucking compete we don't have the financials bro no it'd be kind of fun and speaking of financials but it's a team we've seen have a little more flex in the past couple years how about the raise empty some of those young guys and fucking just go for it for two years Tampa pay pay Frankie Lindor that money and roll it out that'd be cool that'd be fun suck for Yankee fans like we are but yeah all right I like this update Jake Oracle Park the San Francisco Giants are moving their bullpens to the outfield because they're in the middle of play and they've had some close calls recently with guys running on the mound bullpen catchers getting hit all that stupid stuff that comes with having the bullpens on the field so they're moving their bullpen to behind the the fence but that means that the fences are being moved in and triples alley triangle will be lowered by about a foot and moved four to six feet closer to home plate so a foot lower and six feet closer triples alley it's so far away that I don't know how much this is going to change things but I mean you do that anywhere else a foot lower and six feet closer that's a huge difference when you bring in the angle into play kind of fun get those bullpens out of there I hate that and I don't know it's the biggest I mean in a in a game where home runs rule it's the least friendly home run area so yeah and I think again this will come into play you know a couple triples might become doubles and you know a couple couple triples might become home runs now if they leave the park so I don't know I don't think it's going to have a big effect I think we are going to laugh in a couple years that we have bullpens on the field because they're just as dangerous as the hill in Houston used to be I'm laughing about it already it's stupid yeah and like I Jim the part that actually made made me laugh was the fact that they felt that they had to be in the outfield like we're at the point we have cameras and stuff you can have like the bullpen can be underneath like behind the dugout like as long as guys can get warm and you have cameras up like I do think it's fair that the other team knows like that someone is getting loose in the bullpen oh that would be cool if that wasn't part of the game you're like what he's coming in that would be super cool and like the playoffs like oh my god here comes sale out of the bullpen we didn't even know he was warming up remember that time yeah like sale to close the ninth you'd you'd be checking out the dugout and like counting heads um yeah sale when he closed out the world series delin but tansis and those playoffs he came in and like the third inning that was like the Yankees secret like that would have been a bomb that would have been pretty cool but um yeah I don't know good good job Giants yeah I'm interested I'd love to see if it makes any change belt has been playing there forever and just getting robbed of homeruns left and right because he plays in such a deep park it's tough four feet yeah well we'll see I mean that's uh that's a shot out there yeah it's so deep already but if you were to do that at like any other park at any other like random area four to six feet in and a foot lower like that that changes a lot of yeah all right the other fun thing that at the internet's loving is the Padres are going back to brown uniforms they actually look really nice I am a big fan yeah you'd be surprised I'm not a huge like uni snob mostly because my attention to detail has been zero my entire life but um yeah no get the get the Padres excited I went through the giant history of the Padres uniforms because I was like when did they stop why did they stop and they just went to navy blue which every team's navy blue yeah less navy blue teams I have a tough thought that's gonna piss off two fan bases here we go the reds anytime you tell me like a team like a guy's like when you said lindore to the reds I just picture him in a red uniform they go oh that sucks oh tough I just don't see it and then you said lindore to the rays and I was like oh my god that sucks you are right Jim that would piss off two fan bases and I think I know which ones I just think they're the uniforms kind of world tough I mean the reds the reds wear gimmick uniforms once a week yeah because their uniforms suck I think the Padres went through a big kick like camouflage Thursdays yeah they have the naval influence down there that they and they were like oh these are kind of cool so they got sucked into that a little bit yeah uni games out of control what what happened to just having a home and a road jersey what do you like the nikes putting their little swoosh on all the jerseys I don't care I don't care either I don't think anyone truly cares it's just something no people want to pretend to care the the NBA has had advertisement logos on their jerseys for two three seasons I mean the clippers are literally bumble they have the bumble logo on their jersey nobody cares but it's just the Celtics I think they're GE like people want to care for a week just to have something to care about and then you don't and it's forgotten yeah I think people like having their auto responses I don't like this and then oh what oh 2019 we put ads on the jerseys these teams aren't making enough money though the fucked up thing is that Nike is is going to control which third party stores can sell official merchandise and that may and who knows what discretion they're going to use with that and we don't know yet they could say everyone's fine or they could be really dicks about it and like I know that all the stores around Yankee Stadium are very scared because if they can't sell official merchandise they don't have stores anymore all right so that's that's kind of the shittier part um I don't care about the swoosh on the jersey we will get you will get used to that so quick it's like when Facebook makes a change and you're like oh I hate the new update and then like two seconds later you're like what was the old one like yeah and then you run we're losing it we're losing Instagram like soon right oh don't care yeah that's big then you run into one guy like I haven't updated in five years and you're like well oh cool cool man you're the hero stay strong brother strong your socks you're you're working on an old format all right uh automated strike zone to debut in the minor league baseball in 2020 says Rob manfred and that's kind of the other update there I'm all for it everyone's saying like it didn't work in the uh the that guinea pig league like everyone hated it and they said it wasn't that good it's like well yeah they just fucking tested it what do you think they're gonna run out and it's gonna be expert it's incredible like this is what we're doing we're we're guinea pigging it so it can get better and better and better yeah and I think that was one of the complaints was it still takes like I think they said three to five seconds for the pitch to register so you would like that to be a little quicker but some someone was doing the math on them they're like okay another five seconds on every pitch and it's like well no I mean the catcher can still throw it back to the pitcher like I we we just it's not like the whole fucking world freezes the catcher doesn't have to frame the pitch for five seconds for the robot um it's it's it's a learning process and you're right I mean by by the time this technology gets to the major league the ball strike should be almost instant and it's just going to take like the players are going to have to learn how to play with it like throw just throw the ball back yeah framing the pitch doesn't exist anymore the problem I saw was that the way it was calibrated was that if a breaking pitch just like dropped over the front part of the plate but never right went through the plate they countered as a strike which is kind of shitty okay well that's technically what it's supposed to be it's supposed to be a fit nicks any part of that strike zone yeah um but yeah that's that's going to be a big mind fuck seeing balls seeing balls bounce and hit the dirt but they technically cross through the zone so what they to fix that they need to just change the definition of a strike because no ump calls those anyway it has to pass through right so anyway all right let's take a quick break then we're gonna come back and we're gonna see where Jake thinks all the free agents fit best what's up all right part two talking baseball we did some free agent stuff last episode we went over like every free agent available that was kind of crazy it was a lot of information taken like maybe the top tier Jake you have some better answers for this than me I think you're more into this than me but I'm excited to hear I asked some people on Twitter but I don't have internet to go see it what free agent do you think fits best with the the league now can I throw some at you that were common because I think mine are common yeah I think there's there's two major layups two two pitchers that need to be discussed that are like when you do the math in your head like yes that would be cool Strasburg to San Diego yep I had totally forgotten San Diego stay and it's funny because we don't treat San Diego like a normal sports city like we treat as a place like you go live there and you're like oh chill vibes man but like yeah he went to college there he just won the world series that would be cool this team is looking to compete and come to a next level it would be a really cool fit they've San Diego has spent money Hosmer Machado like Will Myers they'll write big checks so yeah and it's it's like it's part of their plan when they when they gave over that GM job they were like hey we are going to we've got the farm system we're gonna spend for I think three years I think this would be the third year and then I think it's kind of back to the drawing board I do think they'd like to have the Hosmer contract back a little bit but oh yeah for sure but I'm saying they it's not like they're stingy they've had a plan in place and it's about to come together they need a stud so Strasburg does fit San Diego I agree with that we'll see but I even if they don't land Strasburg I expect San Diego to get a couple of those at least one of those top tier pitchers like maybe maybe Jake if they don't get Strasburg and there's kind of a different conversation let me do it real quick because I also had like Ryu yeah and Ryu's a guy that's been in the NL West they need one they need one trusted guy to go with all of their young guys to kind of anchor that rotation a little bit because even if even if Ryu does fall off a little bit which again his past two years have been insane but you know they've had Joey Lucchessy trow in the pill for a couple years now that their young guys are getting their paddock but you still want kind of a veteran presence that you can trust to go out there because a couple of those young guys yeah they'll take a step up and they'll be good a couple of those young guys are going to take a step down that's just how baseball works okay paddock is kind of like a pitch is angry like he's always like pissy on the mound you think better for them to get a dude like bumgarner so they can be pissy together or Strasburg so they can bounce each other out Strasburg you tell Strasburg to treat him like sure yeah okay I like that yeah the other big lay up here that I tweeted out a lot of people had it you've had it for like seven months maybe even since last off season the first time he got mentioned at the trade deadline it was like oh shit wheeler to the asterisks I just makes so much sense I think they can replace coal which you know a lot of people say that's crazy I think they can replace coal for less money because wheeler and coal are pretty similar before coal went to Houston and you just give wheeler that special sauce that arm talent plus Brent Strom and whatever they're doing over there with the analytics and all that shit and wheeler can become I'll say coal light just because to be nice just just to make it not as hot takey but it does feel very much like fuck Zach wheeler would be like the final level of the experiment like okay if you do him now you guys are pretty much have a cheat code going on but but yeah I mean you go through his last two years I mean it his his ERA doesn't fully line up with his FIP if you're one of those people but still the past two years 60 starts a 365 ERA also Jim the Mets pushed him like all of those Mets starters it wasn't like hey you pitched a good six innings let's give it to the pin it's like can you please give us seven so wheeler probably wouldn't have that pressure if he goes to Houston and if if they could even trend him up a little bit which you'd you have to expect at this point from Houston like yeah you could get you know 85% of Garrett coal season which that's that's still an ace pretty much yeah the other thing is that's interesting is that if like wheeler goes to San Diego the Padres just signed Larry Rothschild the Yankees old pitching coach so it'd be interesting to see what he can become if like somehow they land there with him yeah whoever Larry Larry Jim let's I want to close off your book because you got you have two guys going well not going to the same team but two guys that you thought would be either fun or good fits that's a typo one of those is a big time typo okay I was gonna say I was like damn Jim's got Jim's really got some sleeves I just saw that no I don't have that I got right down to the Mets okay I don't think they're gonna do it because they they don't spend money smartly but they need a third baseman pretty bad and he's a fucking superstar yeah and he brings this like oh see my worry the Mets would ruin him he brings this steadiness like Rendon just he's been pretty consistent under the radar superstar he just became a real superstar in the world series but we all saw him he's chill like just a very relaxed vibe and the Mets may you may you could counter Pete Alonso's corny over the top vibe I like Alonso but whatever but then they they need him they need big they had the worst in field defense in MLB last year so not only do they need his bat they needed the good third baseman the Mets couldn't spend the money they just don't so yeah I don't think this is gonna happen but I think it's a really good fit no I like it and I think the Mets we've talked about this third base pool a little bit I think I've got someone I like I like for the Mets a little better but yeah I mean the Mets fans would love it and you're right the risky run with Rendon is that kind of the monk personality we talked about during the playoffs a couple bad weeks in New York and it goes this guy doesn't even care I'd love to see how he handles the New York media yeah and yeah maybe he's kind of maybe he's not that guy I guess he's been in DC which I mean it's not New York but it's still I don't know they'll they'll get on you a little bit Rendon I had a really fun one with Rendon I was going you know thinking of the different teams and you've heard a lot of them I mean Washington is still a big chance still a big chance the Texas Rangers Chicago White Sox teams that have been rumored to spend a little bit how about Milwaukee Milwaukee just moved Chase Anderson so there's eight mil no but yes Manny Grendel comes off the books Mike Moustakis comes off the books and think about what Rendon just came from it was him and Soto with some surrounding pieces you could have Yellich and Rendon in the middle of that lineup for the next few years I really like that that's kind of the way baseball is going a little bit is having those like two main main pieces and just filling in around it I don't know I don't know if Milwaukee has that 250 burgers to lay out there if Rendon asked for that but I think that would be a really really fun pairing well I would surely put them over the top I mean think think about where they yeah where they've been without having kind of that second bat you have one on here that I think is awesome okay point me you have Yassiel Puyg to the Chicago White Sox I did this one for you basically and that is awesome if anyone wasn't paying attention the Chicago White Sox had one of the loosest dugouts in the regular season for a team that really wasn't contending but they got along they had a ton of fun they had they were like you know the forefront the flagship of the swagger movement and then Puyg is just a lightning rod if he goes there and fits in you could have a really fun team now I don't know about money or positionally I'm literally just talking vibe yes so I I knew vibe wise you would love that because you loved how fun they were Jim they've got a spot for him in in right field I mean I don't want to be rude to Ryan Cordell but he had a 645 OPS this year he was in 97 games he played the majority of right field they had they signed John Jay before the season that was part of the Machado bait he was a bust for them and they need like another impact bat in that lineup so baseball wise it's a fit dugout wise it's a fit because you're right they're one of these fun teams and you let Puyg be Puyg and Jim another thing that you've you've literally seen this as we've been podcasting for two three years now you've seen this come over me I really like like team dynamics like the Pittsburgh Steelers have to have a mean defense yeah and stuff like that the Chicago White Sox their most recent success was like Ozzy Guillen being kind of the wild child so you know what put Yasiel Puyg in the fire and let it brew and you have a big threat in that lineup to go with Moncada Eloy Jimenez some of these young guys McCann had a really nice year I think it's a fit all the way around and they were trying to spend money last offseason with Machado and failed and they spent money in weird places to try and land Machado so I don't that is a fun fit it could be a lot of fun and Puyg and obviously this will work out because he's a free agent so its team is recruiting him he has to go to a team that lets him be him yeah like you're not gonna you're not gonna go out of your way sign Puyg as a free agent then try to harness him you just you got to be smarter than that when you're doing it like you got to let him be the fucking lunatic he is yeah and I don't want to be rude to our White Sox listeners but I think right now they're talking big fish again and right now I just I don't think the appeal is there for the big fish but I do think like you're you're a step away and you have Copac coming back this year and different things like that that if you bring in you know a couple of these second third tier guys if you bring in a Puyg if you bring in another hitter you can really start to fill out the team more where they they had some holes last year yeah all right you want to do the big one you want to go where you have Cole going or not where you have been going where you where you think it's a fun fit I think it's a fit and I think I've mentioned it before or if you've been listening it they've kind of been my dark horse this whole free agency Garrett Cole to the Texas Rangers it's they're opening a new stadium so they need some electricity the Texas Rangers we've talked I talked about team identities well we'll see what their new ballpark looks like but I'm assuming it's going to be another hitters park but right now they really believe in Lancelin and Mike Minor so if you bring in Garrett Cole and you can make those guys you're two three now your whole team dynamic has changed and you're a you have to think Texas a little bit too the Texas Rangers are looking at Houston and they're in the same division and they're saying we just took your ace and and that's a lot of fun that's going to create some really good energy and I don't know like I'll always have this image of Texas being able to fill out the lineup with some different dudes pitching wise has always been their struggle and they they found something last year if you put Cole on top of that now you kind of have a really a really nice one two three um I don't know I just think it's uh that would be a really that would be a really fun one that is uh John Heyman's bullshit mystery team of the 2019 yeah whenever John Heyman tweets out Cole may be going to the Yankees Astros Angels Padres or in the mystery team Texas Rangers are in that lump they are the lump um yeah so I don't know I think that one's a little fun um at this this one I think is kind of a quick hitter but I I want Edwin and Kronacion to go back to Toronto um fuck with all those young dudes he's with all the young dudes we saw the dynamic on the Yankees with the young guys there we kept calling him Uncle Edwin I think it's the perfect fit he's going to be a solid bat for them and he's a guy that like these young guys almost idolized to a little bit to a degree um and yeah he can he can kind of be Uncle Edwin for the Blue Jays I think that's a really fun one yeah I like that let's breeze through a couple of these others you have Grandal going to the Angels or a good fit yeah I I like Grandal to the Angels Grandal's the one I can't like tune in I honestly I spend an odd amount of time on that because I was trying to think like what what's the fit like who's telling themselves they want him at catcher and they really want to pay him and then I was like oh I think the Angels like you you you have a catcher you believe in um he's a switch hitter you you know you're giving trout some help and I do think they're going to go out and sign a starting pitcher I know there's a lot of co-rumors there um but either way like Otani's coming back so I think you want you want a battery that you're competent in I I don't think if you're the Angels next year and you sign whoever you you sign I don't think you want to come in and be like well yeah Cherinos is battling out with Austin Romine and we're going to see what happens back there like I kind of like them like being like hey let's Grandal's got some pretty good numbers we're just going to stick him behind the dish and he's he's another he's one of the better hitters that trout will have played with throughout the past X amount of years hey Lestela was pretty good last year Lestela was solid bounce back and then madbomb to Atlanta do you have uh before we go there do you I does a team jump out for Grandal like that you're like oh a good good catcher switch hitter badm badm fifth no but I don't I'm not really familiar with every cat the catching landscape yeah it's such a weak position right and it's kind of like the cubs are willing to move on from or the rumor is the cubs are willing to move on from Wilson Contreras who's one of the best hitters at the position and you look at the two teams in the world series this year I mean they didn't necessarily have impact catcher so I think that's part of it madbomb to Atlanta I light bulb went off for me a little bit just because if you remember when Atlanta lost and they got embarrassed I said yo Atlanta's got to go out and get a couple free agents with big fuck you chips on their shoulder and say we don't care Madison Bumgarner is is one a of of the guy who would say that like that would be his opening press conference he'd be like I don't give a shit how they lost in the NLDS yeah and I don't know I think they've got all the young guys and hopefully he could pass off some of that knowledge and he's kind of from that region they've been they've been linked together a lot get him back in the south keep him off the keep him off those quads madbomb went to prom with madbomb Madison Bumgarner dated a Madison Bumgarner he comes from a town full of bumgarners it's pretty wild we might have to get there at one point um yeah I'll I'll start churning a little more who have I missed just you have is the only one Marcello Zuna I put him on the cubs I mean they brought Castellanos in for the stretch run and he was an impact bat for them uh Castellanos kind of can't play defense though so I've just got Ozuna basically being their Castellanos but he can play some corner elf you don't think the cubs will try to bring him back Castellanos they might but I I just feel like you're starting to get into a tricky territory because you still have Schwerber now you have Castellanos so you've got two guys that are I don't want to say borderline fielders but kind of yeah and I don't know I just think I think having one of those guys is okay on a team then you start looking at some lineups where you're like okay the the cubs corner outfields are horrible today if they have Schwerber and Castellanos out there I just think Ozuna is plug-and-play every day Jason Hay the cubs just may and then you have Donaldson just going to an NL East team I mean let me let me he's not going to the Marlins no okay we'll rule out we'll rule out the Florida fishies the Nationals if Rendon leaves they're gonna have a hole at third base the Braves may want to resign him I don't think he's a priority but he just played third base there the Mets you link them with Rendon I think I think he's a pretty good fit with the Mets because they're like you said the Mets have the money but they don't really spend it Donaldson you could give him two years big money or three years good money instead of the seven that you'd have to give Rendon I feel like the Mets are in a two-year window in their heads right now oh Lindor to the Mets I just announced who are we missing what's the other team I'm blanking on the Nationals the Braves the Phillies the Phillies have been looking at third baseman too so I mean do you think there's a chance Rendon Todd Frazier and Donaldson all land in the NL East that'd be a lot of fun so what what would that be that would be Donaldson to the Mets Frazier to Philly and then Rendon back to Washington could be Frazier to Philly is fun hey like Jersey that's that's closer to his home in Jersey than Mets and you know he wants to be close to home I'm just saying good clubhouse guy good clubhouse guy for a new manager that he played with Girardi keep Harper in line free agency math balance out that shitty clubhouse guy Arietta ooh that'd be cool you're liking it yeah I kind of I kind of adds up I mean Phil he is a Philly dude it's a Philly guy Philly would love him Philly would love Todd Frazier it's the anti-gabe Kepler yeah yeah yeah wow that's cool that's fun to think about yeah and then I mean from there you look at the free agency list and I mean on let's be honest guys like Dallas Keichel, NG Ryu, like Oda Rizzy like you could put those guys on any team like like I don't think there's anything that jumps out and is like oh I need him there yeah I thought about saying that because obviously the I mean they have the the market there and they they actually do want to spend so they're I could see that um Ryu to the Ryu to the Padres if they miss out on Cole if the Padres miss out on Cole or Strasburg then maybe they get like Ryu and Madbomb can I ask you a question as a Yankees fan sure yeah what if the it what what would your reaction be if the Yankees signed Ryu okay cool because there's a little bit of like I'd be I'd be hesitant because I'm a I'm a ALE snob right but I don't know I think as a Yankee fan there's a little bit like okay if you're gonna go get Ryu you might as well just turn turn the knob up I was just gonna look it up but the the NL East was so bad Jake and I think Ryu had all his games he's in the West West I'm sorry the NL West was so bad and I think he had like I think we did this during the season when we looked at all the teams he played and we were like it was a lot of that impressive yeah um it's tough when you're on one of the good teams when you're on the Dodgers um yeah you never get you never have to play the Dodgers but I mean you're playing you're playing bad teams that have a pitcher hitting it's it's a little different you take you take away one of one of the two like best hitting teams in the NL yeah there's there's a little bit of that I don't know he's he's a he's a little bit of wild card the only like hitter that we haven't really talked about I mean Moustakis you could find some stuff there you had Didi on there and I think this was your typo are you doing the Didi to the Reds yeah adds up yeah uh started there some nice full circle stuff um I think he looks bad in the uniform someone someone talk me uh someone talk me he said uh someone tell me where Grandals going okay because it just that the Angels made sense just because it's kind of it's a good not great signing like you're like okay it helps they have their Superstar yeah so they need supplement they need a Superstar pitcher but they have Otani they have trout they need like the supplemental guys that are better than what they've been doing how about Ryu and Grandal to the Angels boom sure oh Ryu would look gross in all red I feel bad for him there I'm into it damn that's a tough look for him let's take a quick break then we have some twitter questions all right we tweeted out ask us a question hashtag talk and baseball we may try to end shows with a couple of these all the time we like engagement we like talking to you uh so we'll rip through them there were some good ones I I took like the first five so I didn't check afterwards no internet life I had internet I could yeah hoody paxton a Yankees fan follower follows along if you could expand MLB to any two cities where would you go what's what's your what's your number one pick well my number one pick is when you look at a map of MLB cities I feel really bad for Seattle and really bad for the Rockies they don't have any close friends close proximity games every game is a fucking longer train longer plane ride they have no train ride games no they have no cross town games I don't know where you would be able to put one that has the and I can't look at a map right now because no internet life it'd be Salt Lake yeah you could do Salt Lake up there um because you're not really going like in the Dakota like all there's a lot of Cubs fans that live in Nebraska area or Iowa area you know so maybe another like kind of Midwest but a little more west area if they could get a team I just love to balance it out like I like that northeast is so crowded because that's where I started but every every road series is like a hellish road series for the Mariners and the Rockies split the difference could put one in Idaho have no one show up yeah that's that's the problem it's just like it's Omaha Salt Lake Vegas I know there has been some Vegas buzz and they might be my second city for fun my number one pick is Nashville we I think we did this a little bit during the season Nashville is a bursting city it's kind of baseball vibes like a little bit of country music a little bit move at your own pace the Red Sox can trade Mookie bets there and they they they got pretty behind the predators and that's not like a hockey town but they became one so that'd be cool it uh and I think you kind of see it in in kind of that region that it's like St. Louis is a big hockey baseball town I think Nashville would kind of be the same way I think they have they have a nice minor league team uh stadium there but I think they're ready like that place is just exploding and it's dude you mentioned you mentioned the Cubs coming out to Colorado when there's a Cubs game in Denver you know the the city is packed with Cubs people Nashville and and so for the football team for the Denver Broncos you know whoever they're playing that week because so many people are like hey let's go out to Denver for the weekend the Panthers are playing out there we'll look at the mountains we'll do that people would do that with Nashville it would be go go down on Friday you go to the Friday Saturday games you go drinking I think Nashville Nashville's ready all right I like that one so you give one to Nashville I'm gonna rove one around that whole northwest area until we find one that supports it maybe that's what it is they're the they're the Omaha Salt Lake team maybe you go back to Portland Portland is another team that needs to be mentioned another team up there would be cool them in the Mariners that rivalry would be pretty geeky and I'm into it yeah if no one's ever watched the battered bastards of baseball on Netflix it's about this independent minor league team that was in Portland they were an independent team that played in the like minor league league but they were independent and they were owned by Kurt Russell's dad and they were just fucking crazy they like had criminals on their roster it was nuts and they would get a ton of fans in Portland go watch that documentary on Netflix it is fantastic California penal league I think only city that I think we're leaving out well there's probably a ton I'm not gonna well yeah I mean every every every area has their city that they're like oh we could do it Hartford Connecticut would be good um no I think the one that's very real is Charlotte Charlotte doesn't have a team yeah put one in the south and one in the northwest we need to spread it out it's all northeast like they say the rays are going to move to Montreal like we got so many teams in the northeast yeah get I think raised in Asheville or Charlotte seems like a winner to me you want team in New Mexico wouldn't hate it Albuquerque ball flies well yeah that's that's all right uh Nick Dubois outlook for naps bullpen editions this offseason I don't want to deep dive this Jake I just will say there's you got trade or you got to go from within I mean there's all the Astros arms like Joe Smith will Harris we did this there's not a lot of bullpen relievers that like are game changers yeah I don't know if you're the Nats you're you're looking to trade maybe you bring back Daniel Hudson he just won you a world series and maybe he found a little something special um yeah there's not a ton of bullpen out there Nats and hey don't let it concern you too much because you had the worst bullpen and you won it all yeah good call uh do you think this is Bob Arino do you Bob Arino 69 420 great username do you think it's possible that Zach Wheeler gets the big fish contract example 175 million in six years and Cole gets left in the cold when it comes to a long-term deal and ends up settling for a two-year 75 million deer deal towards the end of free agency Bob Arino that is a hard and swift no I do not think it's possible yeah no I mean this is Garrett Cole is coming off one of the best years ever um I don't know I think if we had to guess a Wheeler I would I would just put it at Patrick Corbin's contract what do you get 6 for 140 I go a little less than that you think he's going to get less I don't know I think it's um depends where Cole and Strasburg push the market to yeah for me it's just Patrick Corbin had one really good season and he found his slider and he's a lefty sure Zach Wheeler's always been like arm talent top prospect like drooling over him now it looks like he's figured it out and like there's a little bit of a multiplier I don't know I'm I'm gonna I would put the over under at the Patrick Corbin contract you're going under yeah for now I think it's a little safer just because the years I don't think he's gonna get the years yeah maybe someone packs five but hey that's kind of what we thought with Corbin too but he was also the only pitcher out he was the only one yeah all right hoodie Gary does Jake wear edible underwear and we've all been wondering that would be disgusting runs wondering I'd be so disgusting no um why would you why would you wear underwear uh at yanks bar says if you could take any player that's never been an all-star to build a team around who would it be oh shit I mean I didn't reach I didn't prep for this ooh any player that's never been an all-star to build a team has Fernando Tatis been an all-star uh like I'd have to look at I can bring up show me those Tatis um yeah I mean that's the game it's the best it's the best young player that hasn't been an all-star no Tatis has not been an all-star okay has and new heart no you're not gonna build around anymore what about a pitcher like no paddock okay I'm doing the Padres paddock did Soroka do it has Flaherty made an all-star team I don't think he has no Flaherty has not made an all-star team there you go cool um last one from uh Jared golf 33 golf he asked did I look into and how many players would be affected if Chris Bryant wins his hearing and this is kind of a topic that I thought I would just share in case anyone doesn't know Chris Bryant is taking the Cubs to whatever he's has a hearing it's a grievance he filed a grievance because the Cubs delayed calling him up until the two weeks into the season because that is when there's a hard date that says if he gets called up after this day then this season doesn't count towards his service time you get six years of service time or seven years of service time so a lot of teams do this they delay calling up rookies until two weeks into the season because it you get basically a full season but it doesn't count towards their full season it delays their free agency one full year it's fucked up Chris Bryant is filing grievance I do not think he will win it because you don't be mad at the team be mad at the fucking CBA for putting a stupid rule into the agreement that like the CBA put all these rules in and the owners were like okay we'll manipulate that and the CBA's job to make sure they don't get manipulated also Mike Olt was on the Cubs as a placeholder and he did happen to get injured three days before they called up Bryant so they can use that as an excuse even though that's not really what happened at all they were doing it anyway but the question that we had was how many other players if Chris Bryant was able to win this would be able to do it I know Glaver Torres would be able to do it for the Yankees Vlad Vlad Guerrero would be able to do it I mean even on the Yankees like they did it again with Kainley and they did it again with Drury but they really have excuses for those built in but it was a kind of secondary it wasn't as blatant but I tried to research this Jared and I couldn't the best way to research it was is to ask a diehard fan of every team because there's not there's not an article out there with it all listed yeah I mean I'm I'm trying to think of when Soto got called up originally but yeah I don't know I don't think anything's gonna happen um because you're right it turns into a roar rules are rules um it it sucks but this is what your organization agreed to um and yeah like I just think of the chaos that would ensue like uh yeah Bryant wins all Glaver's a free agent a year earlier like it it would it would just lead to so much chaos that I don't think that's going to happen I think it's good that he filed agreements to make this more public knowledge and the next time the CBA makes their it's in like 2022 or 2021 whenever the new collective bargaining bargaining agreement is like fix this you idiots you did so much wrong we were at last winter meetings and the the big hubbub word was that there was going to be a strike when they have to do the next CBA um because free agents weren't getting paid by the end of free agency everyone got paid pretty good they also agreed to be able to work on the new CBA earlier because if they didn't work together for these next two years and then just sat down there was no way they were going to agree in the allotted time to make it so they agreed to extend talks to start them now so they can figure out what they need to get done so a strike doesn't happen which is really smart of them and it's it's important that they address basically the middle class and and it's the perfect time because look at the Washington Nationals look at Howie Kendrick look at Astruble Cabrera these are guys that aren't getting money that are free agents but a lot of teams were saying hey instead of paying these guys 8 million let's just bring up a couple young guys and get you know 75% of the production so now it's kind of the perfect time to strike because they they need the young guys to hit free agency earlier because there's just a list of young guys that they don't get to free agency in time and it's over you know I Todd Frazier is a guy that he was one of the premier players in the league like an all-star third baseman I mean he's still good but when he hit free agency he wasn't Cincinnati Reds Todd Frazier hot corner blah blah blah and I there's just so many guys you could point to around the league that if they hit free agency two years earlier I mean they're two years younger and your body father times undefeated you don't need to hear that from me I mean Madison Bumgardner in theory you know Dallas Keichel yeah with the the the CBA they the union they thought they were just ensuring jobs by making seven years of control they're like oh good if you make it to the MLB you will have seven years of solid pay and they're like wait though they just yeah they just fucked from making like your actual first paycheck so whatever that ends this show as my phone's dying we uh we have the awards coming up rookie of the year manager of the year Cy Young MVP we will be doing mini soads this week uh reacting to the winners and kind of talking about those so stay tuned I should have internet we should be live and on YouTube and all that good stuff by then but for those that just listened on the app you didn't get affected at all enjoy your weeks hey Jimmy yeah you know who's a free agent that would have loved to be a free agent one year earlier who's that scooter Jeanette had a terrible year he was the story of last year all-star stud and that like that's a perfect example yeah that's also a little bit of bad luck because the injury yeah it's bad luck too but but all right thanks guys we appreciate you we will be back uh tomorrow or the next day or whenever to do the mini soads and then another full episode next week see ya