 Welcome to ToffeeTV, here's the final word. I'm joined by John Blaine, who was at the game last night, Lincoln City with through John, that's all that matters isn't it really? Well this stage yeah, I mean you get a lower lead team away from home, it was pouring out rain as well and there's many a slip happening in the past, we've been there. I think they shed a bit of fibre yesterday going down so early and then when they got back to 2-2 as well, I think in the past we've found that hard and difficult, but yeah it's just about getting the results. Were you surprised by the team, you made a few changes but obviously you kept Jordan Pickford in goal, like to Michael Keane, like to Snidland, like to Sigarton in the side, any surprises for you? No, no I think it clearly said at his press conference that he was going to respect the competition and all those sorts of things, but I expected him to play a strong team, yeah. I mean there was a bit of Twitter banter about the people who think he's going to play like the best team and the people who think he's going to be a load of no marks if you will, or second and third stringers. I think the only surprise for me was Tom Davis wasn't involved so I don't know what happened there. But he wasn't in the squad so you don't know whether he was injured or not. But no, I expected him to play a decent team and he did. Yeah it was pretty much around what I thought it was going to be, I thought Tom would play. I was hoping Yerri Mina was going to play because I wanted that sort of solid back, two centre backs on the goalkeeper. But I can understand why he didn't play him, he's probably just trying to make sure that after watching Hall 8, I'd be like I'd rather Hall 8 did play in the league games and Yerri Mina played in the Premier League games because you can see the different levels. So no, and I suppose when you look at the squad we've got now, anything we've put out now looks strong on paper. It does and the bench does, tends to as well. I mean people try and second guess what the manager will and won't do but I would have thought it was nailed on that Keane was going to play, Keane without any. You know Alex was going to play. Right, what's this to do? Sadibi. It was clear he was going to play and then to me he wasn't going to play Sigurdsson and Gomez so somebody was going to come in there. Clearly Delph needed to come in because he was supposed to be fit and he needs to get some minutes and that's fundamentally what he did wasn't it really? Yeah. They were the changes. I think that's the difference isn't it? Well, some people were suggesting, oh you know, Anthony Gordon who played the night before, she was never going to play or Lewis Gibson but... You're not going to do that. You're not going to do that are you? Because there's no, he said he was going to respect the competition and you can make a few changes and keep a strong team. So and with last night's actually some of the changes like you just mentioned, they're Keane and a Wobby. Their players you go, actually their first team is who are, who need that extra bit of fitness. They do, yeah. Who could well be involved on Sunday against Wolves. Indeed, indeed. I mean and it makes it better stroke easier for the manager if you think about it. As fans we're going to throw our teddy out the prem aren't we? If he makes wholesale changes, put out a team which on paper should win and then it doesn't. Yeah. Because that's the manager's fault clearly. And then you've got, you know, the best team in the league always seems to put out a pretty, if not their strongest team but very close to it. So why shouldn't we? Yeah. Particularly as we've looked a bit rusty if you want to use that as a word in the league games up to now. And some of them were really tired last night. I think Richard Lawson was really tired near the end. So games help and of course what we did get out of the game was the miserable so and so that is Richard Lawson scored a goal. Yeah. So that will have helped him a lot. And Dean just furthered the, you know, the emerging legend of an adequate, shall we say, replacement for Mr. Baines? Yeah, yeah. We'll talk more about, say, Luke and Dean in a moment. But you told me you just got to your seat just in time to see Lincoln. No, didn't see it. Didn't see it. No, me and John, we'd been in the Golden Eagle, which was a fabulous camera pup. So we'd had a few beers with one ex. And guys to be able to commit to show association lives like 20 miles away. Vince, we watch as Vince was good to pick a good pub for us to go to. And then when we got in there in good time, 10 or 15 minutes, and we just fancy the burger or something, but they were really slow. Yeah. And probably not used to them. And we're walking across the front as you can there to go to our seats. And we're probably halfway up the steps when behind us they scored. So where to ask people what happened there then? Absolutely typical, wasn't it? Just slow start. Players not come out to block them, looking for the upset. Everyone looking for the upset. You know, Sky even said at the end of the game, unfortunately, we couldn't give you a Lincoln win. I mean, they picked their games for hopefully to get. Of course. West Ham the night before. And to me, it was when I got home, we got home about crosswalk or something. And then you stick Sky on watch it. I was surprised. They goalied at the ball as well in those 20 seconds, haven't they? You know, so it was amazing. It was almost like the punted forward. So DB was a bit naive, I think defensively. I don't know if you're going to talk about him, but that will be interesting. And of course, we go one down. Yeah. It was a poor game. It was a poor game. Goal to conceive. But to be fair to the lad, he took it really well. Took this body up well. Took it really well considering it was in the first minute or so. Yeah. Yeah. One nil down. But then we got a grip of the game. And we started playing it round. Well, it's a cup of coffee, of course it's hot. There's no milk in it, of course it's hot. I know it's hot, yeah. We started playing the ball around really well, started opening them up a little bit, making a few chances. We did, yeah. We just couldn't find that back hill of touch. Again at times, just a little bit too slow, a little bit too safe, a little bit too pedestrian. It is. There needs to be, I think some of these players just need to be, like you said a bit, I know there's rushiness, and then there's the whole thing of, well, the season started. Yeah. You've got to get on with it. Well, what surprised and disappointed me, you know, something with the guys around us was, when we got ourselves sorted and we took the lead, obviously they all got a little bit of a lift from that. Lincoln got a little moderately deflated. I don't know how long it was and whether it showed on TV, but five, maybe ten minutes, whatever it was. We pinged it around really quickly, and they didn't know where to put themselves. And then it was almost like they thought, oh, we've got this. Yeah. And relaxed a little bit. Yeah. And then that's when they got in for the two, two. But we had a few chances, as I said, but it was a Dean, Luca Dean free kick, which brought us back into the game. And Luca Dean, I mean the goal, the free kick itself was, again, watching on TV. They were all expecting. It's funny on TV, like, when people are talking, and they're all building cigots and up. I was just going to say, the close-up, I saw that when I got around, wasn't I? The close-up, cigots and up. They're all building cigots and up, like he's got this amazing free kick record and everything. Couldn't hit a barn door and everything from his free kick, wasn't it? Swansea every week, go, go, go, go. Ever, not one. So obviously Luca Dean stood up, took it, and as soon as it left his foot, it was curling into the score. He scored for his now four goals or something. Oh, five, isn't it? Oh, five with last night, I suppose, yeah. And they're all memorable goals, aren't they? It's just all been fantastic. All outside the box and all top quality. As you said before, he's just replaced Bane without any worries at all now. What I liked about his performance was that when we went to Millwall in the cup, he looked a little bit rattled. He didn't like it. He didn't like playing in a game like that on the night. He made silly files, which they capitalised on. He did get rattled, didn't he? Where as last night, he was none of that at all. He was so smooth all through the game, and it was completely different headspace. Where as at Millwall, which was obviously the last cup game we played in, there was just something on the night. He was just doing silly little things that led to those free kicks, that always gives teams like that the opportunities that they crave, they need. We'll find out, won't we? At the weekend, where the players, because you've got to assume the manager wants them to play with a bit more urgency, a bit more move the ball quickly. Because we've got a good selection there of gifted technical players, and we look better when we're moving it quickly. Oh, yeah. And Richarlison's goal was all about the ball comes to D, and he acutely flicks past their guy. But he just sets himself and crosses it. And Richarlison's done the movement. But if he just saunters off down the wing, has a look, thinks what he's made it, and so on, strikers are making runs back and off, making runs back and off, and so on. So moving it quickly, I think we can challenge any defence doing that. It's linking, come on, but... It's moving it quickly, though. We do seem to have a bit of a blocker there. But let's just have a little look at some of Dean's stat on last night. 95 touches. You've stato now, I am. Goals one, assists one. Successful long balls four. Chances create a five. I mean, that's the big thing, isn't it? For the left back, just to meet that many chances, that just shows the level he's on, though. Yeah, apparently Andrew Robertson's worked twice as much as him, so... Don't know that word. Let people think that. Pass, accuracy was 88% as well, which is pretty good. Pretty good. I mean, you want it more in the 90s. We're going to get more and more of the crap now, aren't we, about where's he going to get transferred to, because he must be. Yeah. The best left back in the Premier League. Listen, I don't care. I don't care. We can have that argument. People can have that argument all day. I don't care about arguments about that. What I see is we've got a billion left back who's gone. He's been caught up against the France squad today. He should re-establish himself, though, shouldn't he? Yeah, who, for me, you know, is age, ever needs, probably needs to start already looking. He's literally just 26, isn't he? Yeah. Who's next? Giving him another contract. Yeah, yeah. Getting that next something. Successful tackles, three successful dribbles, two interceptions, one. So, not only is he good going forward, he's good defensively as well, which he showed that last night. So, as I said before, I think it's just that level now of... I think in the Premier League, I'm not saying it's easier, because you need more quality. Of course you do. You need to be able to deliver those balls and those free kicks. It's in these games where people get into it. We've seen them last night, all early on, I can't remember the last name, but he's having a goal at Snide in the whole game. Snide fell for it. That's what even weighs. It's when players fall for it. The lad towards the end... Snide to 22, Lewis. The lad who went through with Charleston at the end. Well, he's the fellow who pushed Ciggy over that caused the melee in the goal as well. Doing all this. Doing all this when Charleston had scored and we were winning. And you've just... To be honest, you know, in the Premier League, he couldn't have been sent off at that tackle. It was horrendous. Well, that's what we thought. Horrendous it was. It was at our end of the game. And he was nowhere near the ball. It was pure malice as well. Pure malice, which should be ascending off for me. But that's the difference is that, as I said, going back to that Millwall game, Dean was a little bit naive in that game, whereas I thought last night, cultured it brilliantly. Absolutely brilliantly. And naive is probably... Is he on your board there? Sadebe's not, is he? No. But defensively, naive. Well, we were... I'm just not aware of what's going on. Well, we were talking... I mean, obviously, he made his debut last night. Delth made his debut. Moise King made his debut. And I won't be made his full debut. So obviously, you're chomping at the bit to talk about Sadebe. I thought he started the game poorly. He did. I thought him having a fight with the ball... You went to the game? I thought him having a fight with the ball, but he was brilliant, by the way. I thought that showed a level of... A level that we don't know. The whole team seemed to be keen on it, didn't they? They did last night, yes. Grabbing round players and whatever you went. It was a stand-up for each other. Pickford running the length of the pitch. Yeah, yeah. He's on a new level. But I thought Sadebe grew into the game. He did. And what I thought was... Looked very promising. He... As the game went on, he wouldn't suffer. He wasn't suffering any feels harder. No, he wasn't. He was prepared to go in for things. He wasn't... You know, bit of, you know... Someone coming from the French League, someone playing for Monaco, probably hasn't had that tough. Had had a bad injury last season, by the way, knee injury. But he looked like he was prepared to have a little bit as well. He did certainly. And he showed great promise for me. And grew, as you say, grew into the game. And he'd be all right. He'd be all right. I think he'd be a good backup. And that's why last night was good, I think. The weather, you know, the fact that they were up for it and being snidey on a case and so on. It made it a tough game. I think particularly the guys who needed some match fitness, like Delft, they just looked great, didn't they? Delft. Delft, I thought, looked good. I thought... I thought his ideas were more... were more promising than them actually coming off. A lot of the stuff he tried didn't actually come off. But it was the idea that he was trying it. It will come off when he's fully fit. We already know that he's a good passer to the ball. We know he's a good footballer. He finds space as well. We know he was good enough for Manchester City. Always trying to look forward as well. Always trying to probe, get the ball into the right areas. So if it didn't come off last night, that was all right. But it will come off, I think. That's the most important thing. What did you think of Moise Keane? He's young, isn't he? He's raw, I think. He's probably... Not just last night, seeing it in the other games. He's still at that innocent level of he always wants to try things. But he moves the ball quickly. He's not scared of shooting. And when he hit the post, I mean, it was bang! Yeah. So I think what we can expect is he's going to be used as impact Disney for quite a while, I would think. I can't imagine him starting for a while. No, well, I'm not sure for a while. A while in this game is between now and the international break. But I looked at him last night and thought, are you ready to start against Wolves? And although a lot of people won't want to hear this, but I'm not sure he is ready to start against Wolves. I agree with you. Because... You disagree, sorry. We're here, you're not. And I think the difference is... I think the difference is... Is that... But it will be, is? No, I know. We'll come on to it. I've got pictures and everything. There you've got stats, haven't you? The difference is, the difference is with Moise Keane and Donna Calvin Lewis, Moise Keane's got tricks and he'll get away from people. But I think that player plays up front for us. It's so isolated at times. And that was illustrated by a staff that came up in the game that Sigurdsons only passed to Donna Calvin in three times, which shows how it isolated. Don, whether you think it's right or not, he knows how to play that. He knows how to get involved in a game. I think Moise Keane wants to be involved in the game. So we'll go looking for the ball and therefore... Is a wall. Is a wall and doesn't give us that focal point where we need that long ball at times to get the wing, is it? And adjusting for the time being, you get a little bit more out of Moise Keane coming off the bench. You see in the last night, he is raw, but he's got so many great little tricks that he wants to get. He'll get himself out of situations. That's where the goal is. But I think for the time being the manager, we both might be wrong, but I think the manager will look at it and go, I need someone who I know will stay in the position and bring Richard, or some Bernard, or Wobby, Sigurdsons more into the game. And I think that's dumb for now. And that's why the manager likes him on weather. People want him on about Donna Calvin Lewis and how long he hasn't scored for or whatever. And that's why every manager he's played that, I've ever liked him because he's a player. It's why David Moise loved Anna Chaby. It's because you give him an instruction and he goes out and does it. Not every player can do that. And that's why managers like Don. And Don keeps the opposition's central defenders busy all the time. He wins most things in the air, doesn't he? So what we're really looking for is, I don't get the people who give him stick. Because maybe it's because he's got number nine all of a sudden. Is it being called a striker and you're supposed to score goals? It's about how many goals? It's the team to score. It's the same reason Tom Davis gets stick. It's the same reason why Leon Oshwin used to get stick. It's the same reasons. People can't see past the idea of a young lad coming into the side. Do you want bigger, brighter, better in their heads? Or what if you haven't got bigger, brighter and better? Or bigger, brighter and better isn't ready to play yet because they haven't been moulded into how the team wants to play. So I thought Moise Keane showed some lovely little touches and lovely little moments. But I still think that the manager will want them to stay up front and be the focal point of the team. And whether he's ready for that, I don't know. But that is down to the manager. And Wobby, I thought was great. He was, very impressive. I thought he was great when he came on on Friday. I thought he was great in this game. And he's got the work ethic as well that Rich Arleson's got. Hasn't he put himself about a bit? What I liked about him was, every time he got the ball, his first thought was, how can I go forward? How can I go forward? Or how can I create a goal or have a shot on target? And there's not enough of that evidence. There's too many players who want to play safe, who want to go wide when they're in central areas. He looked like a player. When he gets the ball centrally, he's looking for a running because that's how he's been brought up at Arsenal. Very direct. And I think there's not enough of that evidence. I think you're right, yeah. I see you. There you go. Touches 15. That's how. Goals 1, shots 3, which is good straight away. A player on his debut having shots. And I know the opposition may be great. But he's a player. All game, I thought he's going to score tonight because he looked like he wanted to score. He was desperate to score. And we don't see that enough. Do you know the only other player I think are good at evidence at the moment? Well, Moise Keane showed a little bit of that. But the only player I think is desperate to score, and this is why he's always got a gob on, is Richard Alisson. Yes, yeah. And that's why when people go, he's sulky. And I've been guilty of it myself. He's sulky because he wants to score. And he's not happy. And he looked the same last night. Because you know when Bernard gets the ball, Bernard is like the kind of player, as much as he's great. He looks like he's the kind of player. He's like, I'm happy if I set someone up. With Richard Alisson, I'm not happy unless I score. And everything don't have enough of those players. His goal meant a lot to him last night. The carcass was another one of those players. You ask any great striker, the top strikers, some of them will walk off the pitch and they might have won. But now, whether you like him or you don't like him, how many times do you see him when he scores? When someone else scores on the team. And he's got that face on him, as in, I should have scored that. You should have passed that ball to me. You need players. Now, I'm not saying he's liked that exactly. But last night, he looked to me like, I want to score tonight. I want to show these fans that I'm on it. And I want to be... And it's an old-fashioned thing, isn't it? It's my full debut. I should score because they'll remember that. Yeah. Shot on target two. Excellent. Successful passes, 29. Chances created two. Again, scoring goals and trying to create goals as well. There's nothing to me these numbers. Pass accuracy, 81%. Recovery, three successful dribbles, two. The people out there find these really exciting. But these are things that you've... This is where football is, John. We've got a debate in great depth. Why is pass accuracy is only 81%. Well, I think it's pass accuracy is 81%. No, but the reason why... It's an old-quality thing. How hard are the passes you try? No, no, no. The reason why... This is why central defenders now have pass accuracy of all 86 and 87%. They're passing it from here to there. Exactly, because they pass safe passes to the keeper to there and out. Snylder should be great, but he's... Snylder's pass accuracy, I imagine, is really, really good. Yeah. He's a kind of player who's probably... He's probing. He's looking for the chances. He's trying to... So, when Rooney was at Everton, his pass accuracy wasn't great, but it was because he's always trying to make chances. So you're taking risks. Of course. So it's not always going to be that high. And that's what our team needs to do, a bit more, take risks. Yeah. Massively. We've got too many safe players or too many players who are playing safely because they haven't got the confidence at the moment. And I think that's what we've seen on Friday night. We've seen players like Gomez, who do so much more, I think, to come from on to Gomez, so much more. But at the moment, without someone next to him who almost says, Go on, lad. You go up the pitch a bit. He's playing a little bit within himself. And I think that's part of the challenge. You could put him and Snydlin together. Yeah. Because they're exactly the same. Snydlin has got the talent. And then, you know, he showed... Again, it's a lower league team, but he showed a little bit last night what he's capable of doing. But he always... And my mate said to me last night, he always seems to be a sort of player. Once he's got the ball, he wants to give it to somebody who thinks it's better. Yeah. So let's say he gives it to Gomez. What's been happening? Gomez gives him it back. I think... But that's the thing. I think you can... I think every team needs one of those players, though. Yeah, but not two. Not two, though. That's why Tom could and should have been involved. Perhaps. Because at least Tom knows which way to go. Well, I imagine Tom Davis was injured last night. He must have been. He must have been. But I think that's why we're going to struggle in the Premier League to break teams down if Gomez doesn't start to say it himself. I agree. So... But I thought it would be great. And he got his goal. It was a... He'll start. I think he'll start. He's the kind of player for me now. But the manager has to find a position for him. Has to. And because he likes DCL Andrew Charleston's going to start. That's three up front, isn't it? Effectively. Yeah. I know there'll be cold midfielders or whatever. I think the difference with a Wobie... You know, a 4-5-1 or whatever. I think the difference with a Wobie that was so mobile that he can play off the left but he'll find himself all over the pitch. Which is a massive benefit because then you can play centrally and you might play bernard. You wonder whether, actually, I don't know if he's got the discipline whether a Wobie could play almost as a central role. As a 10. Not as a 10, like almost as an 8. Okay. And then you maybe allow to not have to go to Staten Island or not have golems for a Satan game if you haven't got 5 players. Or questions. Tickets and then. But you've got to... I mean, I thought Tickets and I had a good game last night. It was his best game. I mean, I know it's a lower opposition but I thought what I thought about Tickets and last night was he got himself in areas of the pitch he hasn't. He also got involved. Yeah. That was probably part of it. I got booked for getting booted up the arse. It's just incredible. Pushed over by that 22. But in the first half, he was getting wide and putting crosses in with real shape on them. And second half, we obviously scored the third goal from him getting wide on the right. Thinking up the far post. Lovely shape on it. Tottenham did well. Tottenham did brilliantly, actually. Very aware. Yeah, to put it back. Proper strike of that. And I won't be putting it in. And his penalty... Were you worried when he got the penalty because I think everyone was worried. It was a great penalty. He missed more than he scored last season. But he hasn't missed one away though. That's right. So it was a great penalty. Real good shape on it. Again, I'm keeping on using the word shape, but no pallet just shaping to the corner. And a bit high. So the keeper goes the right way. But going back to what you were saying before, the only thing that annoyed me in the whole night, when they scored the first goal, I was just typical. But let's just see what happens. But it was that bit between scoring the second goal and then equalising where we just switched off. This game's won. Yeah. Whereas when we got it back, when we got it to 3-2, we went for the fourth, and we got the fourth. And they could, they had nothing. They don't even have a lot. You know, we had Andy on last week. I was doing the preview with Andy, and he knew everything about them. And he was like, they don't play long ball anymore. They don't have that worry that we had last season at Goddison. They've got good, quick footballers. Now they've changed it. So last night, they didn't even have that outlet of a long ball to worry us. But soon as we stopped playing and took our foot off the gas, that allowed them to just start creeping up the pitch. Yeah. And you're seeing that, it was a tremendous goal. The finish is brilliant. But the amount of plays you skipped past our play because we were going in half-hearted to allow them to get back into it. But when we got the third, that's what we should have done when we got the second. We just kept on going. Keep the foot on it, yeah. Kept on going, with Charleston at the head of that, got flicked over. And then obviously, brilliant skill by Dean leads him to get the goal himself, get the header, which was a great header. It was. He worked hard for a second half. Once he'd got... So what does your handyman say? Because they've got a good reputation defensively, haven't they? Yeah, basically he said that he changed the style. Yeah. So Werner said, good or soon. Last year. And it was all, we were all terrified every time they got a set piece because we were terrified in general when anyone got a set piece. But he said, he changed that around. I think we've seen that last night. Yeah. That a team wants to play football now rather than just going along to the big man up front. And I thought we dealt with it. We dealt with it. They had two shots. Yeah. And they scored from both of them. It was just that when we switched off, and again, that's that idea of, we need to be more hungry. When there's a chance, I think, and again, Friday night against Villar, we were so guilty of this. When we're going, our teams keep going. Don't stop, because that's what those horrible teams do at the top. Yeah. The horrible ones, not the nice ones like Man City, the horrible ones. There's only one, isn't there? They keep, I know, but I'm trying to be a little bit more objective. They all know. I know. But we do get reds watching. They keep going on teams. They don't let teams settle. It becomes accumulative then, the pressure. Yeah. And that's what brings mistakes. You know, and it happens in every sport. You don't have to look at cricket on your last week to see what happens when the pressure comes on. And clearly, the worry, if you're, particularly with the home team, must be at its most highest when you've just gone behind. And if you look at what you call the horrible teams, they score the goals in clusters. Yeah. You know, they get two or three or whatever it is in a short period of time. And the game is over then. Yeah. There's lots of room. They're all chilled. They can bring out the skills and so on. And we've got that in our bag if we just have the confidence and the trust almost to do it. I think we've, I wouldn't say we've got it. I think we've got the potential to have it. I, no, you look at the players. You look at the players. They've got it. We need to see it. Some of the players still look like they've got there's a nervousness. That's what I mean. And it's about, we play as a Delf and plays like a Wobby and plays like Moise Keane. We've played for, you know, good sides. Champions League. You know, all that rubbish. You've got, Andrzej Gomez, I mean, he had it, he had it when he was at Valencia but he lost it when he was at Barcelona. And even though he's seen it in Flitz last season, he's got it. What we've seen of Andrzej Gomez so far is not the thing that got Andrzej Gomez to Barcelona. Andrzej Gomez was a number eight. He picked the ball and run past people. We've seen that once against Wolves. Yeah. So what we've seen so far is a nice footballer. We need to start seeing him going, right, I'm going to relax now and come out Michelle. My, my, my very personal issue with Gomez is I didn't believe the high blast season based on what I saw. Yeah. I mean, at the money, you think that's good money. Yeah, yeah. If he performs. Yeah. He started the season. I don't know whether, because we haven't seen him do a proper full preset and all that sort of stuff. Whether he's just one of these players who needs games, which I know, Sigurdsson clearly does. So is he like that? Or he's become one of these players who are ever so slightly different when they've got the transfer rather than they're on loan and playing for something. And he's felt the love and it's the, you know, almost your God, you walk on water. And before the Villa game, I bumped into this. We were just sat down and a little cat who ended up talking to these guys on the next table were Portuguese. They were Evertonians because of Marco Silva because they're from Estrella. And so, he's a legend over there for what he did with them. And they just don't get the Gomez thing. They said, well, why is he loaded so much? Because he's not doing it, which is your point. No, no. They remember him from when he was in their country and then going off to Valencia as this great promise, then ended up at Barcelona. But they said, we've never seen it. Neville said that when he was off Valencia, there was two players that had the potential to be world-class. One of them was just signed for Man City, Concello, and the other one was on J. Gomez. And he said, because he didn't really elaborate on it, but he said the two players who were world-class, who had the potential to be world-class. So, I know he didn't play last night. And to be fair, this season, he got an injury in the first game, probably played through the injury in the Waffer game and in the... It's easy to go past. And he's got a... And he's got the snidlin' thing of soft fouls. Well, the good thing is, about a minute though, for £22 million, you probably can... You don't have to sit here and go, oh, he's amazing, or he's always terrible for the price. You don't have to do that. You can go, he's a good solid player, but we need to get them all out of him. Well, presumably, what brands and silver would like to think is we've got a £50 plus a million-pound player for 20-something. Yeah, right. And that's what he needs to show, isn't it? Definitely. I mean, he didn't even play last night with Tony Webb. No, but we do. We need more players with more hunger. Because there is the conundrum there of Sigurdsson and Gomez together. And Snidlin. Oh, well... And the irony is... His elf won't it. The irony is, though, out of those three players, Snidlin is playing... He's the only one... Who's the only one to start at the season actually playing in his true manner, if that makes sense. Yeah, Ali is consistent. We know that. When people go, Snidlin, when people say, then he's had a good game. Yeah. He's had a good game, then. He hasn't been booked. He hasn't given soft valves away. He hasn't given the ball away. And he is one of those players who is doing his job properly. You don't really know... You don't see him. Yeah, you don't see him. So he's a water carrier, isn't he? Yeah, he is. And that's what he wants to be. And that's why the manager appreciates him, I think. And that's why he wants him to stay... And that's why when John's talking to me last night, and it was John Vaughn who said, you know, he always looks to give it to a best player. I think he'd be good to go and give it to Gomez. Gomez has then got to use it. Exactly. And that's why that's the irony of the whole thing when people give grief to Snarling and don't give maybe as much grief to Gomez or to Sigiston, although Sigiston does come under a lot of grief. It's Snarling who's doing his natural job. That's what he's been doing. And then I think he had a little... When he was at Southampton, we sort of seen a little bit more out of him. But that's what his job is. That's what his job's always been at. Well, when I did the post-repe... Obviously, the manager that I do with, the player they bought from Southampton they saw for a year and then he saw that same player the first year at Everton. And then both times it sort of goes for some reason. So that's about... It's got to be about management. If he feels comfortable, whatever it is that he doesn't feel he needs to do that little bit extra, that's into the on-field and off-field management to get into his head and say, that's not good enough. I think because again, then we've got a really competent player there. I think for me he's a squad player and he's doing the job he's supposed to do. But like you've just said will Delph come in and replace him? I don't know because the manager's already said he doesn't see Delph as a 6, he sees him as an 8 more like an Andre Gomes replacements. And maybe the emergence of Delph will give Gomes the property. Well, it's interesting because one thing I'm looking forward to seeing is Delph and slow-starting Sigurdsson. He always finds space. Oh, yeah, yeah. And Delph will find him. And I frequently say to my poor missus who has to suffer sitting next to me every day is that Schneider doesn't get the ball too much. Yeah. And the more crazy players we count Sigurdsson as one of those don't get it enough. Yeah, that's the problem. We need them on the ball. Yeah. We need to go through the middle more. Absolutely right. And we're going to have those I don't know, Gomes at the back of it and Sigurdsson at the front. They need to pivot properly. That's it. We go wide far. I mean, Friday was embarrassing to me. It was so ridiculous. They were basically going like that and part in the Red Sea and going, go on. If you want, go through the middle and move in. We just kept on going wide. And we did it similar last night, but it's something they're going to have to get out. Those teams would be comfortable when you're going wide. Yeah. But if you do go wide in equality, which is what we have last night, what are your thoughts on the draw? Sheffield Wednesday away to Sheffield teams in a couple of days, isn't it? I think Sheffield United around then as well, haven't we? I don't know anything about them. Well, they're doing well. I think they're near the top of the league. Everton will be playing against Sheffield Wednesday at Hillsborough in the third round of the League Cup. This will be their first meeting since September 2007, which is also in the third round of the League. Stephen Pinar's full debut for Everton if I remember right. And somebody told me... You look like a pedia grater. No, no, no, no. I remember because I remember and someone told me on that night and I've mentioned this a few times that Stephen Pinar was never going to make it as an Everton player. You keep reminding them. I always remind them. I always remind my brother-in-law, Daddy said that he was never going to make it. Sheffield Wednesday doing all that. I mean, when you're walking back to the car in the pouring rain, at home, sort of thing. Yeah. Or you really said we want a lower League, lower than the Premier League. If you'd avoid a Premier League team right through to semi-is or something. So we shouldn't complain about it. No, no. We'd expect to beat them, wouldn't we? Well, hopefully, yeah. I mean, we'll see where we are when we play them, but we should be good enough to go there and beat them. They're all done on the night now. None of this replay, extra time, none of that. None of that. So, yeah, there should be a good If I can, yeah, be tied to the desk in here. Yeah. Yeah. Leaving you on your lonesome for so long. Yeah. While he swans on with Marvel's artists in Star Wars Land. Great, innit? Yeah, there you go. I win 4-2 victory with through. That's the main thing, isn't it? Totally, yeah. Some good fitness exercises, some good debuts. And for some people, you can look at them and go, yeah, I won him in the first team, though. Cool. Any comments on the game? Anything we've discussed? A woe be? Moish keen? Will he star for you on Sunday? Let us know your thoughts in the comments. Big thanks to John for coming in to discuss this game. Don't forget, give this video a like. It really helps the channel. It tells YouTube that you like this channel. Simple as that. Subscribe if you haven't already and if you want more great videos, live videos every day over on Patreon. Join us there as well. Thanks for watching. See you later.