 Hey everybody today, we're debating Islam versus Judaism, which caused the Israel-Halasian Conflict and we are starting right now with AP's opening statement AP the floor is all yours Hello, everybody. Hello James first I want to start with remembering that on October 7 Hamas the terrorist organization known as the Islamic resistance movement By their own name attacked Israeli civilians and killed over one thousand two hundred people mostly civilians 100 days have passed over that By now there are still hostages including their babies kept as we are as we are speaking so I want to show solidarity remembrance and also Hope and express that the hostages are free as soon as possible and that Hamas is destroyed as soon as possible I want to start with thanking James for hosting this and I also want to start my opponent, I also want to thank my opponent Daniel Kikiciu who happens to be a very prominent advocate of pedophilia and also of Also a Muslim apologist I know some might say why you throwing that in isn't that kind of poisoning the whale But I have to say it's not every time that you get to speak to somebody who says that A man might marry or can marry and have sex with a girl that is Seven years old six five four three or possibly even under the circumstances eleven months old Let's start with the debate topic so the date the debate topic is Islam versus Judaism which religion is responsible for the Israel Palestine conflict. I initially didn't really like the topic. It is one that generally Kikiciu offered and I Eventually accepted because he would not accept anything else He insisted that we go with this title and any slight change to it would make him Reject this and back out of it the very debate that he offered Fine. I'm okay with that Let's talk about Islam then One side in this conflict in the war that has been going on since October 7 now is Hamas the other side is Israel Israel is a largely secular Jewish nation country that is built on secular Jewish values which makes very little reference to Judaism in its declaration of independence in its basic laws and even in the The the the very foundation which forms modern Zionism, which is for example Teodor Herzl's article they they you didn't start the Jewish States or even his novel which kind of puts it into a a Utopian beautiful form which is called the old new land on the other hand. We have Hamas representing the Palestinians Hamas is a terrorist organization that has engaged in suicide bombings attacks on civilians Deliberately has justified those and it is called the Islamic resistance movement It is very clear from Hamas's own declarations from its own covenant its own charter that its aim is to preserve and Establish Islamic values and an Islamic state in fact Hamas did it themselves make it very obvious that they want to Establish Islam and lead with Islam Sorry, I'm trying to share my screen here, but for some reason I don't get the right screen shared. It's kind of changed All right here. Okay. Okay, so I Want to start with this with this Narration here now. This is a a report which is attributed to Muhammad The vast majority of Muslims around the world are Sunni Muslims Sunni Muslims make up more than 80% of the of the Muslim world. They believe that Muhammad made prophecies about the future about the end times the and this is one of those prophecies according to Sunni Muslim studies and Studies of reports about Muhammad. This is undoubtedly verified and authentic in this Prophecy Muhammad is reported to have said the hour will not come unless the Muslims will fight the Jews and kill them Fight the Jews and kill them until the Jews hide behind a stone or a tree and A stone or a tree will say Muslim. There is a Jew behind me come and kill him But the gargantory would not say for it is the tree of the Jews So allegedly there is this tree called a gargantory in these in this strange fantasy worlds that Exists which Muhammad initiated And that specific tree is an evil tree like the Jews other trees and rocks will give the Jews away It will say come and kill him. But this is not something that just came into existence today This is not something that came into existence since the creation of Israel or since the beginning of the 20th century This is something that was in existence was reported as early as The 8th century 9th century or maybe possibly even the the 7th century around the time of of Muhammad This is no coincidence because in Muhammad's time the Jews were not treated very well He initially liked the Jews full-fature. He ended up Persecuting them expelling them exterminating them and so on and it is also prominently said that Muhammad wanted to Expel the Jews. He made that very clear. This hadith is not something that is just found in Islamic history and Islamic belief and has nothing to do with the conflict. Here is an excerpt from the Hamas Covenant 1988 in which In which they make it they make one thing very clear. They say that they aspire to fulfill Or to look forward to Allah's promise no matter how long that should take and they then say The Prophet Allah bless him and grant him salvation has said the day of judgment will not come about Until Muslims fight the Jews killing the Jews when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees and the trees say they will be There's a Jew behind me come and kill him. So very same narrative again found right here in the Charter the Covenant of none other than Hamas So you can see one very clear sign here Which is that the one side in this conflict bases their entire fight on a promise a prophecy by Muhammad, which is You know regardless of the history of Israel regardless of the future of Israel They believe that they will fight and kill the Jews if today Israel ceased to exist This hadith would still be applicable if today Israel said we will dismantle this state And we will merge into a into one nation with the Arab Muslims and Began living among them this promise here. This prophecy would still stand Not only Hamas, but most Muslims around the world and most Muslims are aware of this hadith would still stand if Hamas Complete if Israel completely disappeared this would still stand and they would still aim for the destruction The annihilation the genocide the complete extermination of Jews If you only look at this hadith it already answers every single question that we have it already Brings an end to the discussion Islam is responsible for the violent war Islam is responsible for extermination wars Islam is responsible for any rejection of the existence and the self-determination of Jews and their statehood We see here an example of from one of the recent Rallies that are pro Palestine or pro Hamas It says here on this sign now. Do you understand why the trees and rocks will have to speak? For others who don't know this might not need much of an explanation But for Muslims around the world is quite clear what is being meant here And this is the issue when people stand with Palestine or make excuses for Hamas and you know attack Israel They usually don't know what Muslims believe Muslim people Believe in this which is why they don't need to further explain it They simply need to put it up and that's all that needs to be done for everyone to get it Now Hamas is not the only side unfortunately This here is an original document from the West Bank the Palestinian territory is the West Bank Fatah the Palestinian Authority, which is supposed to be separate from Hamas, which is supposed to be less Radical which is supposed to be you know, not Islamist and they are even at conflict with Hamas This document was issued on October 20th or October 19th only less than two only two weeks after the Hamas attacks and Is a document that is an instruction by the Ministry of Religious Affairs in Jerusalem An instruction to mosques in the West Bank to preach this Sermon this message on during the Friday Friday prayer where all the Muslims gather If you look through it it basically vilifies the Zionists and Israel and all of that and then it's it shares a few Sources here says Sharia proofs and here it is again highlighted The hour will not be established until the Muslims fight the Jews so the Jews will hide behind stones and trees and so on The very same thing once again So you might say why is this one issue so important? Well, it appears again and again and again from Hamas from Muslim people around the world and here even from the supposedly secular peaceful Palestinian authority in the West Bank It's quite clear isn't it that this hadith which we have here which Motivates Muslims around the world which I learned when I was a little child is Something that they take very seriously and that lies at the core of this conflict Muhammad himself is supposed to have said let there be curse upon Curse of Allah upon the Jews and Christians for they have taken the graves of the of their prophets as places of worship He's supposed to have said I will expel the Jews and Christians from the Arabian Peninsula and will not leave anyone except Muslims and The Quran says or you who have believed do not take the Jews and Christians as allies They are in fact allies of one another and whoever is an ally to them among you then indeed He is one of them. I want to ask just one question to finish this which is if Israel today Became completely secular and completely stopped believing in their religion Israel would still continue existing and would only fight for its existence if The other side if Hamas for example suddenly turned Completely secular and let go of their religion would there still be this conflict which according to them by their own leader Is it all based on a religious idea? It wouldn't be there. They would probably be more understanding. That's all I have to say. Thank you Thank you very much for that opening We are gonna kick it over to Daniel for his opening statement But first want to say folks if it's your first time here at modern a debate. I'm your host James Coons We are providing a neutral platform so that everybody can make their case on a level playing field So if you haven't yet hit that subscribe button as we have many more debates coming up and with that Daniel, thanks for being with us. The floor is all yours Bismillah, Alhamdulillah wa salatu wa salam ala Rasulillah I know to the audience all the references to Jewish texts I'll make in this opening statement I've compiled them all in a document if you go to muslimskeptic.com you can see it there on the home page That why that way you can double-check all the references for yourself So which religion is responsible for the Israel Palestine war? Is it Islam or Judaism? Judaism has many unique teachings that explain why Israel as a Jewish ethno-religious state acts the way it does There are many Jewish teachings that we can discuss but for the sake of time Let's just go over the three most racist most genocidal most disgusting teachings within the Jewish religion First Judaism teaches that Jews are a superior race and non-Jews are not even human The basis of this is the Torah Deuteronomy chapter 7 which says ye shall destroy their altars and break down their images and cut down Their groves and burn their graven images with fire for thou art a holy people unto the Lord thy God The Lord thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself Above all people that are upon the face of the earth The Talmud further teaches that non-Jews are not to be regarded as humans or treated as such Only Jews are human in the Babylonian Talmud Bava Metzia 114b we read quote Jewish people are called man, but Gentiles are not called man The Talmud also teaches that all non-Jews are akin to dangerous animals or more specifically snakes Hence all non-Jews should be killed the Talmud states kill the best of Gentiles Smash the head of the best of snakes Other Jewish religious texts like the Zohar and other Cabilistic writings hold that Jews are semi-divine and in some cases can even be worshipped by non-Jews more Specifically, they have divine souls that are connected to God by contrast non-Jews lack souls connected to God as a result They're literally subhuman animals the notion that non-Jews are animals is also reflected in Jewish law For instance if an adult male Jew rapes a non-Jewish girl as young as three years old The girl is to be executed This is because according to Jewish law when a Jew has sex with an animal that animal must be put to death Since the rapes non-Jew child is like an animal. She is likewise put to death This rule is mentioned in the Mishna Torah by Maimonides Who's considered by Jews to be the greatest legal scholar of the Torah Maimonides writes If a Jewish male enters into relations with a Gentile woman when he does so intentionally She should be executed She's executed because she caused a Jew to be involved in an unseemly Transgression as is the law with regard to an animal This applies regardless of whether the Gentile woman was a minor of three years of age or an adult Whether she was single or married and it applies even if the Jew was a minor of nine years old She is executed end quote teaching that non-Jews are animals and can be raped and discarded is the very definition of Dehumanization yet. This is a core teaching of Judaism Now moving on to the second category Judaism preaches a sacred system of racial apartheid law Obviously many religions including Christianity and Islam have rules which give preference to their own believers over non-believers But Judaism takes this to an outrageous almost comically evil degree First of all Judaism has a sacred command to kill all the world's idolaters and destroy all the world's religions in the Mishna Torah Maimonides clearly and famously states that Jews have a religious obligation to wage war against Idolaters across the world and kill them if they do not cease their idolatry Maimonides writes quote We may not draw up a covenant with idolaters Which will establish peace between them and us and yet allow them to worship idols as Deuteronomy states Do not establish a covenant with them rather. They must renounce their idol worship or be slain It is forbidden to have mercy upon them as Deuteronomy states do not be gracious to them End quote modern rabbis teach this point as well For example in a viral video clip rabbi Yosef Mizrahi says that two billion Christians and Four billion Chinese Indians and Japanese do not deserve to live because they are idol worshipers So according to Judaism idol worshipers do not deserve to live But what about killing non idol worshipers according to Jewish law? It is sinful for Jew for a Jew to kill a non Jew But there is no legal penalty for directly killing non Jews Why because the Talmud says kill the best of Gentiles smash the head of the best of snakes Jewish academic Israel Shahak describes this Jewish law in his book Jewish history Jewish religion the weight of 3,000 years He says quote a Jew who murder murders a Gentile is guilty only of a sin against the laws of heaven Not punishable by a court to cause Indirectly the sin of a Gentile is no sin at all one of the most important commentators on the Shulhan Aruch explains that when it comes to a Gentile one must not lift one's hand to harm him But one may harm him indirectly for example by removing a ladder after he has fallen into a crevice There is no prohibition on that because it was done directly It was not done directly According to Jewish law Jews are also allowed to steal from non Jews if the Jews aren't a position of power Again Shahak describes this quote Rabbinical authorities differ among themselves as to the precise details of the circumstances under which a Jew may rob a Gentile But the whole debate is concerned only with the relative power of Jews and Gentiles Rather than with universal considerations of justice and humanity This may explain why so very few rabbis have protested against the robbery of Palestinian property in Israel It was backed by overwhelming Jewish power End quote Shahak also explains how Jews are not allowed to give gifts to non Jews They can only give gifts to non Jewish business partners as a sort of investment But non business gifts to non Jews is prohibited Jews are not allowed to give charity to non Jewish beggars either Jewish law says give charity only to Jewish beggars But never give to non Jewish beggars unless the non Jews start getting suspicious Then it's allowed to order in order to protect Jews from backlash Jewish law allows Jews to exploit non Jews in business through usury loan sharking taking advantage of mistaken calculations and Price gouging many Jewish authorities including Maimonides teach that is best not to charge fellow Jews interests on loans But it's mandatory to charge as much interest as possible on loans to non Jews a similar double standard exists for fraud Defrauding Jews is a grave violation in Jewish law But defrauding non Jews is permissible in many circumstances as taught in the Talmud the Mishnah Torah and many other authoritative Jewish texts Moving on to the third category Jewish law sanctions violent conquest Genocide and rape as a weapon of war traditional Judaism holds that there are two types of war permitted wars or Milchamet Rishut or divinely commanded wars Milchamet Mitzvah and Permitted wars the Jewish ruler is permitted to conquer other peoples take their lands and enslave them if he's able to the Jewish ruler may Conquer the entire world in this way in divinely commanded wars Jews are commanded to genocide Particular peoples they must intentionally kill them including all men women children and infants This is religiously sanctioned genocide and it's what we've seen throughout the history of the terror state of Israel up until today Divinely commanded wars are of three types wars of self-defense wars of genocide and global wars against idolatry I've already mentioned the global wars against idolatry and the Jewish obligation to Just genocide all idolaters of the world Excuse me in so-called wars of self-defense These occur when Jews are attacked and these wars Jews are permitted to intentionally kill men women and children Conventional rules of war found in other religions like sparing women and children and the elderly do not apply and The third type of divinely commanded war Jews are commanded to genocide particular peoples They must intentionally kill them including all men women and children There are two groups of that that Jews are commanded to genocide the first group consists of the seven nations and Inhabiting the land of Israel as mentioned in the Torah Jews are obligated to genocide this group So it so has to take their land the second group Jews are commanded to genocide are Amalekites or Amalek The Torah describes the Amalekites as people hostile to Jews later Jewish thinkers came to interpret Amalekites as any group That showed itself to be an enemy to the Jews It's thought that Jews have a sacred obligation to genocide Amalek in all times in all times in all places Over the years Jewish scholars have applied the term Amalekites to Romans Christians Nazis and Palestinians All these details can be found when referencing Jewish religious texts for another academic reference see the book Holy War and Judaism by Reuben Firestone published by Oxford Besides genocide Jewish shoulders are also given the right to rape any non-Jewish female They wish regardless of her age even as young as three years old and even if she's married and has children The Jewish soldier is allowed to simply take the woman to a vacant area Violently subdue her and then satisfy himself Jewish law then has some technicalities as to what happens to this woman or child in some cases The Jewish soldier soldier has the divine right to simply kill the woman or the child and move on Because the entire Jewish army is entitled to engage in such behavior Every Jewish war is a mass rape campaign directed at non-Jews and their children These rules are discussed in both the Talmud and the Mishna Torah Also Reuters Reported not too long ago that the chief rabbi of the Israeli military Yael Karim taught soldiers that raping non-Jews and war is Divinely permitted and of course we've all seen Israeli soldiers on tiktok videos and elsewhere Bragging about how they've been doing this to the Palestinians Now there are few apologetic moves that are constantly used to defend the Jewish community in light of these shocking teachings of Judaism First some will simply deny that these teachings are a part of Judaism But this is just a blatant lie these teachings are firmly established in the most authoritative Jewish religious texts Including the Torah the Talmud the Mishna Torah and so on further more senior rabbis in Israel regularly preach these doctrines as A second line of apologetic Some will say that these doctrines are mere isolated opinions that were debated in Jewish history But they don't represent the official doctrine of Judaism. This is also a blatant lie Yes, you do find plenty of debate in Jewish religious texts over the centuries But these debates were resolved through the development of authoritative Commentaries from major Jewish religious figures like Rashi and then later through the legal codes of Maimonides and Joseph Karrow a Third line of apologetic is to say fine Maybe these doctrines are an official part of Judaism as a religion But modern Jews are not religious and they don't take their religious teachings seriously This is also a lie. Yes, it's true that most Ashkenazi Jews in the West are not religious But according to polls most Jews in Israel take their religion seriously Israel is a very religious society and is becoming more religious every day because their religious Jews there have the highest birth rates by far But even putting the fact aside and presented pretending that no modern Jew takes Judaism seriously Even in that case these Jewish religious doctrines would still indirectly influence non-religious Jews This is because religion of still affects culture This is the idea behind the tongue-in-cheek statement that most Jews don't believe in God But they do believe he promised them the land of Israel Even if 0% of Jews in the world were religious Judaism has still deeply impacted Jewish culture. The Talmud has shaped Jewish culture for thousands of years It's not that every Jew accepts the Talmud, but they do accept the general ideas Namely that Jews are a superior race non-Jewish life has no value. You can kill rape and cheat non-Jews Therefore, it's okay to genocide men women and children You can absorb these general ideas even as a secular Jew even if you're not specifically following the Talmud by the letter And this is why we see what we see in Palestine This is why supposedly non-religious Jewish soldiers in Israel are right now Engaging in genocide mass rape and some of the worst atrocities humanity has ever seen atrocities and war crimes that are now being tried literally in the hate and Polls show that most Jews in the US and Israel approve of the genocide mass rape and mass murder of children That's being perpetrated by the Israeli military This is all due to Talmudic teachings that have deeply influenced Jewish culture Thank you very much for that opening as well We're gonna kick it over to rebuttals, but want to say folks a couple of things first in particular After our rebuttals and open dialogue will have the Q&A So if you happen to have a question feel free to tag me in the live chat at modern a debate Otherwise, you can also submit a question via super chat those go to the top of the list and Last but not least we'll jump into those rebuttals. Thanks very much AP the floor is all yours Thank you Daniel did a few things or lots of things that I expected he would do now first off There is something very interesting and very funny that needs to be pointed out. He acted like he is predicting one of the rebuttals that will come and Sad that you know people say that's modern Jews don't take their religion seriously or don't believe in their religion Or don't respect their religion and so on No, it's actually not like that. It's it's much The objection is much better than that the objection is that Israel when it was established by the Zionists was Established as a secular country with a secular movement wherein when Teodor Herzl, for example Advocated for the establishment of a Jewish state. He made some remarks about about what this state would look like which are Very interesting to read in which form the foundation of how Israel functions from the very beginning Until you could say quite recent times and I would like to just share that here to Do to show that to show that so this is directly from Teodor Herzl's book the Jewish state It says shall we end by having a theocracy? No indeed faith unites us knowledge gives us freedom Therefore prevent any theocratic tendencies from coming to the fore on the part of our priesthood We shall keep our priests within the confines of their temples in the same way as we shall keep our professional army within the confines of their barracks Army in priesthood shall receive honors highest their valuable functions deserve But they must not interfere in the administration of the state which confers distinction upon them else They will conjure up difficulties without and within every man will be as free and undisturbed in his faith or his disbelief As he is in his nationality and so on He says that they learned tolerance in Europe and they should continue They should teach tolerance and build their values on tolerance. So This is at the core of modern Zionism of modern Zionist thinking to establish such a state when the state of Israel was established in 1948 there was a consideration on There was a debate on what this new state should be called. So and we have a document actually Which which reports about the discussions that revolved around naming the state and according to those discussions the founding fathers of of Israel had this discussion where They say that there are several options. They could name it Palestine or Zion or Israel It is then pointed out that They say they will most likely be an Arab state established alongside the Jewish one and We will also have an Arab population inside our own country So we should probably not pick Palestine because that will cause confusion We should not pick Zion because it might cause too much anger because people will associate it with the Zionist movement, which they have already very much against Let's just pick Israel, which is the historical historical land that it is and once the declaration of Israel is made You can see it very clearly in the declaration of independence of Israel. There is not a single mention of God There is not a single religious reference except at the very end where it says the the rock of Israel which was When the religious Religious individuals insisted that there should be at least one hint They included that and that is then a matter of disagreement of what it actually refers to Is it just a home for the Jewish people? Is it a you know a metaphor for God and so on Throughout Israeli history from the beginning to very recent times Israel was mostly led by the labor center left secular Jewish population, which didn't really care about Religion, so it's very strange to say that Israel throughout its history based its decision-making its policies its attitudes of war and You know, it's it's it's treatment of other religions on these very very extreme Religious Talmudic Understandings and I'm using the word extreme here because I remember very well that Daniel Hickey could you very curiously Sat on Twitter many times that it is Talmudic extremism or Jewish extremism that should be Eradicated or rooted out and that is a cancer to the world so according to him It is extremism, but somehow this very secular state that was led by left liberal people who didn't care about religion at all Which is why the religious? Jews were often so much against it somehow was abiding by these extremely religious laws very curious. I don't know how that happens Connected issue There are many Jewish people around the world who are known as anti Zionist religious Jews and Daniel Hickey Kachinos is very well because he shared certain praises or certain reports about those people for example One certain group is known as that's right Carter There are other groups like Satmar and other religious Jewish communities even his friend Muhammad a job for example or a Friendly organization in the UK five pillars UK they prominently and lovingly Promoted those Jewish people as real Jews as good Jews as anti Zionist Jews who have humanity and so on I want to say something very funny about that Those Jews are Talmudic Jews They believe in the Talmud They follow the Talmud they take the Talmud very seriously and to do and do you know what their biggest criticism of Israel has been? Historically the biggest criticism of Israel has been that Israel is not following Judaism that it's not following a religion that it is not taking the Talmud seriously that it is a Zionist that it is a secular movement which Jews should not stand for because secularism is a rebellion against God and Jews are supposed to wait for the Messiah for the future Where where God will eventually intervene and take over and so on so the religious Jews The actual religious Jews who closely follow the Torah were known as Ultra orthodox Jews are the ones among whom you will find a very religious Objection to the state of Israel based on the idea that Israel doesn't follow religion Whereas the secular Jews are the ones who will who have been leading Israel and who according to Daniel Hikikichu here have been committing you know genocides and Oppressions and all of that based on religious teachings. None of this makes any sense Daniel repeatedly cites the Talmud and He very curiously cites certain certain passages from the Talmud like the one where Allegedly according to him Jews are described as not men not humans It's very very interesting that Daniel Hikikichu would do some something weird as this because the passage in question there talks about burying people and visiting graves and then references a certain biblical passage where Then there is a discussion about whether a Jews may You know visit the grave at a certain time or not and they reference the Bible where it says you my people are men and They then say it seems to refer to Jews only so they are the ones who are called men here not non-Jews So this ruling should probably not apply to non-Jews. So the entire passage is about Semantics it is not about whether Jews are humans or not and Non-Jews are humans or not and any basic understanding of a simple text would give you that's Conclusion very easily any Question directed at any rabbi in history will easily give you that conclusion They will easily give you that response and in fact you can find it everywhere. There are certain projects that have been established To just deal with these questions one of them is prominently Let me see angelfire.com which is a very very Useful very interesting Scholarly website that has been established just for this Where you can find and just for those who have who are too lazy to actually look it up I can put it right here on the screen and you can do that right there at home Angelfire.com Talmud you can see here these basic responses with Scholarly Analysis to these objections brought up directly and one of the most famous ones here is Whether Gentiles are human or not the very citation that Danily Kikicci just gave us Baba Metsia 114 a 114b only Jews are humans and it explains it here very clearly while also giving examples of how Gentiles are actually Have rights according to the very Talmud that is supposedly Calling them animals that it tolerates them and so on it that doesn't make any sense, but it's very it's very hypocritical of Danily Kikicci to go into picking certain Parts of the Talmud and then trying to send this message when He would firmly object to citing the Quran for example what it says that the worst of creatures In the sight of Allah are those who disbelieve That is directly in the Quran chapter 98 verse 6 another another one is that Those who disbelieve are less than cattle less than less than cattle is in the Quran then There is another one which is the Jews and the Christians or the disbelievers among the Jews and Christians and the polytheists Are the worst of creatures also from the correct directly from the Quran if we cited that now which are Not just some some you know allusions to how Some are called men and others are not called men, but direct Explicit verses in the Quran would say those are the worst creatures to less than bacteria What is that I think it's going to say about that you see are we supposed to now accept that Islam is Inherently at all together Genocidal that it is that it doesn't have any respect for any other people except Muslims at all And all of that I really wonder what can I kick your response to that will be because he likes to do this He likes to do the gish galloping which he likes to accuse others often then But when you do this about about the Quran then he suddenly He suddenly he suddenly gets all defensive. He doesn't want to accept those very same standards He cited Amalek, which is very interesting Daniel Kikicci recently repeatedly mentioned that Netanyahu said remember Amalek Anyone who knows something about Judaism will Know that every year there is a day in Judaism Purim the the day before the Sabbath before Purim The there is a passage that is read from the Bible directly and that is in Deuteronomy Remember what Amalek did to you? This is Historical in Judaism has been done for thousands of years and it was never ever Implied there that you should take Amalek as the enemies that are currently around us And you should go or to kill them It was always a message to remember look out for each other defend each other be steadfast be righteous Be be an example to the nations and so on. This is basic Jewish teaching. I recently talked to Dr. Anad will for is a very Who is by the way an atheist? Jewish scholar of Israel and she she confirmed the very same thing You can read my monities the very person that Daniel Kikicci likes likes to cite He repeats the very same thing and and says that teachings about Amalek are not applicable because are not applicable today because It is obviously historically not possible It is it is only applicable in a time where such tribes were around and may be applicable on the different circumstances and I want to be very fair here In a time where there is a kingdom where God has interfered where there is righteousness and so on A very distant world, but hey if you want to go to those to those contexts, then let's get back again to The very report which I cited according to which the prophet Mohammed said that you will fight the Jews and kill them Wherever you find them and you will exterminate them something that Muslims around the world are very very proud of and Daniel knows this. He himself knows this very well and Seriously Daniel When you cite something from a a book you make it look like you are cite you are quoting the Quran What Daniel doesn't understand is that the Quran is a book which he will confirm that has commandments for every Human for all generations timeless no matter where in the world The Talmud is not the very same thing at all in Jewish history any rabbi any scholarly stores will explain you the very same thing The Talmud is not a book that is full of binding laws and every single word in there is to be followed There is a passage which which says that Which is often cited by these two haters which says that? Somebody that a non Jew who studies the Torah should be executed What's very funny about that passage is that on the very same page you will find That they should not be executed and that Gentiles who study the who study the Torah are considered scholars How does that make sense? Well because seconds because the Talmud is a book Which contains vast discussions between scholars in order to interpret the very texts that they believe in It is not a book that is strictly made of explicit laws that everyone should follow It is studied in Judaism in rabbinic Judaism in order to understand Jewish scholarship not in order to understand Okay, we will do this and this and this and this because that's exactly what the Talmud says You got it. Thank you very much for that rebuttal. We are going to kick it over to Daniel for his rebuttal as well Do want to let you know folks Hey, if you haven't yet hit that like button not for me But for you so that you can tell YouTube that you enjoy content like this juicy Controversial topics so that YouTube can serve you exactly what you like with that and go over to Daniel Thank you very much Daniel. The floor is all yours Yeah, so I want to also dedicate this debate to the over 24,000 Palestinians that have been murdered by the terror state of Israel the over 8,000 children that have been killed and sent to heaven by the terror state of Israel So, you know, this is a debate about genocide and the religious roots of genocide The attacks of October 7th. This is a military operation It has not been proven that most of those who were killed on October 7th or who died on October 7th were civilians in fact Indications are that most of them were part of the IDF as either soldiers or reservists And furthermore it seems that most of them were actually killed by Israel itself. You have now eyewitnesses and even members of the Israeli military saying that actually it was Israeli tanks and Israeli helicopters who were launching hellfire missiles at both Palestinians and Israelis Discriminately and this happened at the music festival that happened in the Kibbutzim So many Testimonies from Israeli witnesses themselves who are testifying to this and saying that Israel was operating In fact, it was reported by why net one of the biggest and most important sites on from Israel that The Hannibal director div Hannibal directive was invoked by Israeli military personnel And the Hannibal directive is that Israel the military will attack not only Combatants, but also its own civilians if those civilians are being taken as hostages this is the Hannibal doctrine and it's meant to prevent Israel being in a position of having to Negotiate on the basis of releasing hostages. So many of these hostages Or many of the people at this music festival or on the Kibbutzim in southern Israel They occupied southern Israel. They were actually killed by the IDF itself And there are many reports that prove this whereas reports that Palestinians were beheading 40 babies and we're just mutilating Pregnant women none of this has been established by forensics Even my debate opponent was one of the ones who spread this myth of 40 dead Beheaded babies turned out to be complete atrocity propaganda lies that the Israeli Military and the Israeli state has been pushing now to go to the arguments that my opponent made Regarding the hadith his entire argument about What's happening in Israel is on the basis of one hadith and is the hadith regarding the Ghar God tree and he claims that this hadith which he presented on the screen proves that Muslims are commanded to just kill Jews Everywhere that you find them But even the hadith that he read disproves what he was saying because the hadith says fight It says fight which means in war that this is a war that is to be fought between Muslims and Jews and the proof like the one single evidence and proof that debunks his entire Presentation and his entire argument is that Jews have been living with Muslims historically for over 1,400 years even within Palestine itself before 1917 you have Jews who are living in Palestine. They were the small minority, but they had their own villages. They had their own religious family court they had their own Villages in Palestine before 1917 before the occupation began So if the command was for Muslims to just kill Jews wherever you find them, then how are Jews living there peacefully? In Palestine, how is it that Jews throughout history have attested to the fact that when Christians were Launching pogroms against them. It was the Muslims who protected them and the Muslims who Actually sheltered Jews from the Christians if the hadith Was to kill all Jews no matter what till the end of time Then why didn't that actually take place? Why was there all of this protection of Jews? And they're able to live in Muslim lands peacefully for literally centuries and generations. So this simple fact completely debunks Ridvan's argument Furthermore, this hadith is about eschatology. It's about end of times. It's about a specific battle that will take place between Muslims and Jews There's also hadith about a battle a major battle between Muslims and Christians that happen at the end of time Now if we want to talk about eschatology, why don't we talk about Jewish eschatology? Why not we talk don't we talk about how in the Mishnah Torah? And the Talmud and other Jewish authoritative Jewish texts the End of times comes with the Messiah the Jewish Messiah who is who comes to eradicate all religions Kill all idolaters kill all Christians basically and force them to give up Christianity Destroys the Vatican destroys every place of worship From other religions. This is within Jewish eschatology and within the Talmud. We also read And I'll give you the reference right now that each Jew at in the age to come will have 2800 slaves 2800 non-Jewish slaves. This is what Judaism teaches about the end of times and you can read that directly in the Talmud and the The reference is Shabbat 30 to be Anyone who is vigilant in performing the mitzvah of ritual fringes merits that 2800 slaves will serve him in the world to come So this is these are texts that I would I wonder what red von thinks about and whether he will Condemn them or not because in his rebuttal. He hasn't condemned any of these texts He hasn't condemned any of these Jewish teachings, which I find very fascinating Now, let me get to some of his other claims here. He made a claim about the Hamas Charter So let's read that if you go to the Jewish virtual library and I put a link again go to muslimskeptic.com And you have on the home page all of the references that I'm using and I've linked the Hamas covenant From the Jewish virtual library and this is from 1990 1988 and I'll quote In section f followers of other religions the Islamic resistance movement meaning Hamas is a humanistic movement Article 31 says the Islamic resistance movement meaning Hamas is a humanistic movement It takes care of human rights and is guided by Islamic tolerance when dealing with the followers of other religions It does not antagonize any of any one of them except if it's antagonized Buy it or stands in the way to hamper its moves and waits its efforts under the wing of Islam It's possible for the followers of the three religions Islam Christianity and Judaism to coexist in peace and quiet with each other Peace and quiet would not be possible except under the wing Of Islam past and present history are the best witness to that It is the duty of the followers of other religions to stop disputing the sovereignty of Islam in this region Because the day these followers should take over there will be nothing but carnage displacement and terror So this is from Hamas. This is their 1988 covenant their charter. You can go read it Then they had another updated charter in 2017 a revised covenant And it says here in the section the Zionist project you can also find it in the Jewish virtual library It says the Zionist project is a racist aggressive colonial and expansionist project based on seizing the properties of others It's hostile to the Palestinian people and to their aspirations for freedom liberation Return and self-determination the Israeli entity is the plaything of the Zionist project and its base Of aggression the Zionist project does not target the Palestinian people alone It's the enemy of the Arab and Islamic umma posing a grave threat through its security and interests It's also hostile to the umma's aspirations for unity Renaissance and liberation has been a major source of its troubles Zionist project also poses a danger to international security and peace and to mankind and its interest and stability Hamas affirms that that its conflict is with the Zionist project not with the jews Because of their religion Hamas does not wage a struggle against the jews because they're jewish But wages a struggle against the Zionists who occupy Palestine Yet it is the Zionists who constantly identify judaism and the jews with their own colonial project An illegal entity Hamas rejects the persecution of any human being or the undermining of his or her rights on nationalists Religious or sectarian grounds Hamas is of the view that the jewish problem Antisemitism and the persecution of the jews are phenomena fundamentally linked to european history And not to the history of the Arabs and the muslims or their heritage The Zionist movement which was able with the help of western powers to occupy Palestine Is the most dangerous form of settlement occupation Which has already disappeared from much of the world and much and must disappear from Palestine So this is what uh, the actual Hamas charter says so quite different from the Hasbara propaganda that my opponent recited for you He also mentioned that israel was originally Secular in nature, but this is contradictory by Theodore herzel and other founders of the israeli state like ben gurean who explicitly wanted to establish a jewish state a jewish ethno state How can you be an unbiased state an unbiased secular state if you are Going to be designed as a jewish ethno state Um, this makes no sense and when you actually look at the laws that are on the books Within israel the apartheid is clear that no it is not a secular state in the sense that all religion and all races are equal No, in fact, there is a preference given to jews jewish israelis if you're arab If you're palestinian if you're non jewish, then you are discriminated against In this massive apartheid state and there are reports that we can look at With human rights watch with amnesty international Even former president jimmy carter has described israel as the apartheid state and written the book about it so the Objections or a bottle of rid van are exactly as expected. He is claiming that jews are not really religious or secular This is an objection that my opening statement anticipated It's not just if if jewish people say i'm religious jew It's about the culture the the influence of the talmud on the culture of jews and israel and outside of israel He also mentioned anti zionist Jews so this is like a small marginal percentage only five percent Of jews are are anti zionists the vast majority of jews Support israel and they support jewish dominance and israel as an ethno state um He mentions an angel fire site or whatever that is that's just an apologetic site You have so many sites that say oh islam is peace There's no such thing as jihad in islam and all of these apologetics And i as an objective person will point out and i have pointed out in my debates that these are just apologetics They are not authentic to the actual religious teachings jews and christians have analogs of this as well And they have websites and this is what? The opponent rid van is pointing to so what you know He doesn't accept if someone comes and debates him and says oh islam is peace He doesn't just accept that he says oh, this is this is apologetics. Let's look at the hadith. Let's look at the quran I'm doing the same thing. I'm saying these uh sites are just pure apologetics when we actually look at the texts um, we can see exactly the uh claims that i'm making about judaism's racism superiority complex etc. It's it's uh violence Rape as a weapon of war. I didn't cite one text so My opponent says that well this one talmudic passage about Non-jews not being human. Oh, you're reading this out of context. Really? It's not just one Passage in the talmud. It's multiple passages. What about the passage in the jerusalem? Talmud about uh, the kill even the best of gentiles You didn't address that comparing gentiles to snakes kill the best of snakes. You didn't address that. What's the context there? what about um killing a Uh non-jew who has been raped a three-year-old non-jew. I reference the mishnatura. I reference the show The shoal chan aruch. I mentioned uh, all of these Authoritative religious texts you haven't addressed any of them the fact this idea of racial superiority is not limited to one passage of the talmud It's an overall concept that is repeated by many rabbis many religious authorities Past and present a little hand wave and oh, this is out of context. That's that's really weak. That's really weak um The mishnatura The mishnatura says that the authoritative rule is that a non-jew who studies the talmud is to be killed So just to correct one of the things that my opponent mentioned Also to correct one thing that he mentioned he said amalek is something that is not actually Relevant. Yes, it is When benjamin net and yahoo references amalek and says don't forget amalek in reference to the palestinians It is relevant. It is relevant When members of the israeli kinesis When members of the idf are singing about the only mitzvah that we will follow is the mitzvah to kill amalek They're singing this like on tick tock idf soldiers are singing this that means that is relevant Also, your claim is about me supporting pedophilia. This is garbage. This is uh, If you want to look at pedophilia look at what the talmud says about marriage to a three-year-old Including sexual intercourse And I cited some of that we can cite that more of those passages in the open dialogue But that you have missed completely misrepresented my views But we can talk about more in the open dialogue We'll jump into the open dialogue just a couple of quick housekeeping things folks If you didn't notice at the top of the chat is a poll What is that the cause of the israel-palestine conflict it's already got 1,300 votes So if you haven't yet The options are islam judaism neither or both So do check out that poll that's here at the modern day debate live chat here on youtube And you can put your vote in there. We're gonna jump in the open dialogue I gotta say gentlemen if you could do me a favor the biggest thing is you just want to make sure you have equal time and that there's Minimal interrupting a little bit we can let it slide. We don't want to be too structured but At the same time if I have to you know, I gotta jump in and put us into one or two minute segment responses So if we want to keep that more organic discussion, please do me a favor work with me here, right gentlemen Thanks so much. The floor is all yours. So I want to just clarify Do you condemn these teachings of judaism you condemn them like are we on the same page You can damn those teachings of the talent. You just finished your robotic would be probably, uh, you know, nice open dialogue We can both of us can talk do you can I know I know you can You can just finish a simple question It's a simple question. Do you condemn what the talmud says about non-juice? You condemn the raping of three-year-olds It doesn't say it doesn't say rip three-year-olds. Yes, it does. You want me to read the mission for again This is not this is not a cross-examination section. Just not across across. I'm just asking you. I'm just asking you Okay, no, I don't I don't you don't so you're fine with you're fine with killing the non-gentile Three-year-old who has been raped you're fine with it killing the non-gent. No, I'm not I'm not fine with it So you condemn I said I don't condemn it. This is a this is a uh, a false choice You are presenting it as if uh, it is true and it must be condemned or it is true and uh, and I approve of it That's not the case here This is a fallacy as somebody who is supposed to have studied, uh, so much logic and psychology You should know this. No, I don't condemn it and I also don't acknowledge that it's a thing So I don't approve of it. That's how simple it is Okay, you want me to read that it's a thing You deny that it's a thing You deny that it's a thing. So do you want me to read the passages again? You just you just you want me to read the passage of the gentleman one second I do want to I want to give you guys a chance if you want to talk about this But this is the last thing I want to give you a chance to ask apostate prophet daniel and then I'm gonna give it a This is not if you if you wanted to if you wanted a cross cross examination section you should have asked for it Okay, because that's that's how it works. We can we can have one minute two minutes back and forth If you'd really like it We I mean if you uh, if if two questions at a time is too much We can have it be or apostate if you want to ask one now and then we'll let daniel come No, you know what you know what my suggestion is actually if daniel wants to do this so much Let's have another debate and let's prepare for only cross examination and then we'll see what happens How about that? You're not prepared to talk about the juneism. No, no, no, no, no, no, no I would like to if you like to do cross I mean cross examinations. So I asked you a question I would like to As I mentioned Oh, I have to jump in just because as you mentioned so it sounds like AP is saying, hey, why don't we just do one question each direction at a time? That's fine. We can do that Well, let's get it is not it is stupid to say I want to ask you this question Then I reject the question and then you you'll push me to respond to it The way you want and otherwise you will not move on. That's ridiculous. It's not that this is not a food for conversation We'll give you a chance to ask your question now AP of daniel Okay So daniel gave a long speech here and he included something at the very end And I want to ask him about that because he seems to be very sure And he seems to be presenting to the audience this idea that I misrepresented him daniel Do you accept for me to play a brief video of you saying That it's okay for men to marry little children People know the clip. Um, are you okay with it or not? We can play it. Yeah, okay. All right I'll play the video now since you said that I misrepresented you I will share the sound of it and play it right here So you said this is garbage. I misrepresented you when there are signs of physical maturity It becomes permissible for the husband in Islamic law to have marital relationships or consummate the relation with his bride And this is the example of the prophet peace be upon him You know what precocious puberty is starting puberty unusually early Is there anything in Islam that prevents you from in a man marrying a five-year-old and started precocious puberty You can arrange a marriage even as an infant, but that doesn't mean that sex is allowed Could a man have a marriage to a five-year-old consummate it if she started precocious puberty If she starts showing signs of physical maturity Then yes, that's permissible as I said before If there are signs of So this is something that becomes biologically impossible because Precurity shows it goes as early as 11 months. Well, that's something that the parents would not See the thing about Islamic marriage is that parents are involved at these ages and when you look at the marriage There you have us All right, so again I respond to your misrepresentation presented to you. Go ahead. Yeah, so Yeah, I mean you you I gave you a chance to condemn the rape of a three-year-old and killing The three-year-old after you didn't have a condemnation for that. So your moral compass is not really a standard here So if you have like yeah, you did yeah, you did because you said I for support pedophilia I support marriage like every other religion like every other Culture within history. Yeah, laugh it up, but we're laughing at you We're laughing at we're laughing at the fact that I read you about raping three-year-olds and killing them And you couldn't condemn that right? So when you have marriage tied to puberty You can give these ridiculous scenarios like oh, what if a 11 11th month old has puberty or what if the embryo in the womb has puberty like, you know Googling philosophy was talking about like that's ridiculous in every culture You have when girls And boys they reach puberty which can happen as young as eight or nine years old Then marriage is is going to be considered In the current secular world There's plenty of sex that eight and nine and ten year olds are having you have no problem Apus with eight and nine year olds having sex in these public schools You have no problem with that. Why because you don't support any kind of legislation to ban it So that kind of sex is happening because it's natural when you reach puberty To start desiring for that kind of behavior islam and traditional religions Regulate that including Judaism. Judaism doesn't have like an anti Minor marriage stance. It's actually the most extreme in allowing marriage to happen and sex to happen without any regard to puberty And those are the passages passages that I read you from the Mish Natura And you don't want to talk about Judaism. You want to talk about me? so I'm just explaining to you that The stance that I have is the stance that every religion has had traditionally that Judaism has And your stance is in coherence because you're fine with you're fine with eight and nine year olds or even younger Having sex in public schools. Are you done? So this is not about about what I think of child marriage. This is about what you said It's very interesting. I said that you are a pedophilia activist and you said that Men should be able to marry and have sex with seven five four year olds and so on You said that is garbage and I misrepresented you Then I played the video and now you say I misrepresented you as a pedophilia activist You don't you're not a pedophilia activist. You are a you are pro marriage So marriage to little children not just sex with that doesn't even make any sense and I even explicitly said You allow or you think it's okay for men to marry and have sex with little children So here is just a clear example of that. This is not about the discussion on pedophilia. This is I just let you speak. There's a high percentage of interrupting me. I just let you speak I said hypothetical. That's the misrepresentation. Okay hypothetically having sex with four year old children. Good fantastic. Thank you Wow, we've reached puberty which is a physical impossibility. Yeah What's your point? So in that scenario you accepted that as a possibility and said If there are signs it would be okay. But now you are now you're saying that we're possible If that were possible in some bizarro world So in in some bizarro world an 11th month 11 month old Or even a one month old could be hitting puberty daniel Alternative reality. Yes. Can if four year old girl have precocious puberty early signs of puberty I don't know of any cases of that you confirmed it's right there in your debate with inspiring philosophy No, I confirmed precocious puberty That's what that's what I just seven or eight. Yeah, not four year old. No Uh, michael cited the study to you. It goes as early as 11 months and we debunked the study that he cited He doesn't know he doesn't know how to read a study We had a medical doctor sit and debunk his nonsense. I don't want to go too far Just because like this is the topic that we the topic that I promise everybody today is on the war in particular So I do want to read sure before everybody everybody has has seen what general denies and then we can clearly see him Saying well, we just saw you deny the rape of a three-year-old and in the mission You have to go back gentlemen. I hate to do this, but no, we're talking about Judaism This is the law within Judaism and it's tied to what the IDF is doing in Palestine right now They're raping children. Do you have evidence of them raping children? Yeah, their own statements this own statement of the IDF Uh, take making tiktok videos soldiers saying that yeah, I raped a 14 year old and killed her, you know Do you have do you have about that? Do you have evidence of the idea for raping children? Can you can you provide evidence of their statement? Yeah, their own testimony They're on their own testimony. Where do you have it? Do you can you present the evidence? I don't have the screen share Okay, fantastic. Yeah, we can people will post the tiktok. I would I I retweeted it I thought so. Yeah, uh, you said that I shared you said you said my opponent shared the propaganda of 40 beheaded babies Uh, can you show me where exactly or can you tell me where exactly and when exactly I said that? Yeah, happy to have us beheaded 40 babies. Yeah, happy to share that with you right now Okay, go ahead one second In the meantime folks do want to remind you our guests are linked in the description That includes at the podcast you can find our guests linked below I'll give you a chance Danny. Okay Tiktok is the best. Yeah on october 10th. You tweeted They indiscriminately eradicated entire families and communities and then complained about the retaliations Savages, so you're quoting a Hamas article. This was october 10th Then someone replied So this uh article that you shared Hamas slaughtered babies and children and kibbutz massacre bodies of in dead infants discovered as israeli soldiers enter kafar azal one of the last villages to be recaptured from the territories and someone replied to you last I heard the claim about baby slaughter is not confirmed yet It's just some people claiming they saw saw bodies And then you said you replied it is confirmed that children and babies are killed the specific claim about 40 babies Some of which were beheaded was confirmed by multiple different sources and only disputed by one source That was your tweet on 1245 a.m. October 11th 2023 So according to what you just quoted from me I said uh that multiple sources have confirmed that uh children and that and a report of Babies killed some of them beheaded. However, I use however you said in your rebuttal you said in your rebuttal that I Promote it or shared the the theory or the propaganda that 40 babies were beheaded. Yeah, you did Between I just read yet. You just quoted me Not saying that at all, but just confirming that uh, there are confirmed reports of babies killed some beheaded Yeah, you're you're spreading this you're spreading this not nonsense Which which one is it now? Did I did I say there are confirmed reports of children and babies killed some beheaded Or did I say 40 babies were beheaded? You said reports of 40 Babies killed some of them beheaded. Uh-huh is confirmed. Yeah. Uh-huh. You spread that good. You spread that so I so I didn't say Uh, I didn't say 40 babies were beheaded. Good. Yes. You said 40 babies. Some of them beheaded. Yeah That's the that's the entire propaganda that you were spreading now We know that it's not for babies You can now we know that there are no there is no evidence of 40 babies All of those conformed reports are were complete propaganda complete lies and you spread it Just like you spread all these other All these other lies about The supposed atrocities committed by palace sign I don't understand if you are if you are aware, but it looks like you don't understand simple English statements here and this is not a big surprise because uh, you recently you recently cited an article which says that The idf confirms that three thousand Hamas militants have been killed You made a video posting that and said this article confirms That three thousand idf soldiers were killed, which is so weird How would you you read the article you put it on the screen? Highlighted it you said according to their to their own sources 3000 idf soldiers were killed and the article actually says 3000 Hamas militants were killed Are you aware they have may have been a editing mistake, but it was your statement You're you're pushing the 40 dead baby myth. You haven't retracted that you doubled down on it Actually, I have actually okay. So now you you do retract. No, I didn't I didn't retract. I actually explained it very well And it's so you What do you mean? I didn't retract it It's right here Short explanation to the on the 40 beheaded baby story if you want to look at it so much to my Yeah, they did. I did claim I'd never claimed 40 babies were the Israeli the rate Israeli government and the u.s. Government Joe Biden went on tv and he said that there are 40 dead babies Beheaded babies actually. No, he did not. Yes. He did. Yes. He did not his exact words were not that he said that Why why does he get the screen screen? Privileges can I share my screen? He didn't he did Biden never said there were 40. Yeah, let's make this neutral James like he can just share his screen whenever he wants Joe Biden never said there were 40 beheaded babies Okay, okay, okay Okay, well in previous debates, we agree to share screen for opening statements Not just in the open dialogue people didn't share. Otherwise, how am I going to coordinate my Okay, so OBS, okay. Well fun. AP just a second I think he was asking me not you is that you can as well if you'd like there was never any rule that said you can't share During I wasn't aware dialogue I wasn't aware of that Okay, well, you're welcome. You saw you It was probably the juice you hold on AP if you want a chance to right now Daniel since you didn't know Not a big deal If you want to right now feel free to launch into it People will see it. Yeah Okay, um, there's a fantastic opportunity. You just claimed that Joe Biden said there were 40 beheaded babies Can you show us that? Oh And and it has to be that not something else that you say could refer to that It has to be him saying 40 beheaded babies or 40 babies 40 dead babies Something like that. Go ahead and tell go ahead and show us. Please. I'm very curious to see that This is going so very very well so far. I really appreciate this That's going really well for you Hey post you didn't address any of the claims of Judaism. You didn't condemn Judaism. It's very interesting that you have all these critiques of Islam But when I talk about Jews Jewish law You have nothing to say. It's actually very looking very good for you. That's very good Oh, by the way, I want to say one thing just one disclaimer Now you repeatedly call me call me apos, which is an insult Which is an insult that was created by you call me pedophile one of your dear friends Pedophile advocate. That's what you're calling me, right? Okay. I just want to clarify that's not is that insult is that insult? No, it's it's a fact I just want to I just want to clarify one thing. So I'm okay with you insulting me But um, I have to say if you continue insulting me, I will also refer to Muhammad as a child molester. Is that okay with you? Do you see my screen now? Is it okay with you? I just asked you a question. Do you see my screen or no? Yes, we can. Yeah Okay, well, you know if you call me You see this white house walks back Biden's claim. He saw children beheaded by Hamas US presidents folks presidents say comments were based on news reports and claims of Israeli officials So let me get on my screen Because now I have to set up a screen share on this as well Folks in the meantime want to let you know you can find both of our guests linked in the description And also want to let you know that poll at the top of the chat has over 2000 votes now That's what is that the cause of the israel-palestine war And the choices are Islam Judaism neither or both I'm gonna close that shortly With that. I'll kick it back over to you daniel Okay, so do you see this? What do you have to say about this? This is a report Okay, where do you have where do you have Joe white house claims biden saw photos of terrorists beheading children In israel hamas war you just claimed you just claimed Joe biden also said how are you gonna work this out? How are you gonna work this out? I want are you scared of me asking you the actual question daniel? You just claimed that Joe biden uh himself said That that there are beheaded babies Where can you can you tell me where he said that please white house nbc news White house clarifies biden's claim he saw photos of terrorists beheading children So not only did he see not only did he see pictures of beheaded babies He actually claimed to see hamas beheading babies. Okay. He said beheading children You just said Joe biden talked about beheaded babies or spread the same story about beheaded babies Can you show us where he said that? President Joe Biden painted a vivid picture of the horrors of the israel hamas war and remarks to jewish community leader is wednesday But the white house later had to clarify his claims I never really thought I would see and have confirmed pictures of terrorists beheading children biden said in broader remarks about his administration's support for israel amid its war with hamas and efforts to free american hostages The white house did not immediately respond to requests for further details about biden's remarks To senior administration officials said biden was referring to reports from israel about beheaded children Insided several media reports of beheadings NBC news has not conform confirmed those reports idea of spokesperson Doran spielman told mbc news that specific report and that number i can't confirm and a spokesperson for Okay, yeah, who said wednesday that toddlers and babies were found in kafar azah At kaboots in southern israel with their heads decapitated after hamas's attack over the weekend But where are the 40 babies and where did joe biden say that he said that he said that he saw Beheaded children. So your your entire rebuttal to this is that no no he said children. He didn't say babies Okay, so here is here is a thing Let's say joe biden makes a statement that is inaccurate right or that is wrong and we can criticize him for that And many did and i did too by the way not at the time not at the time Okay, after the fact when it was debunked. Yeah, it's easy to say that. Oh, well, okay Nothing is being granted here daniel. You are making you're you're lying here by omission No, i'm not lying joe by you said that joe biden confirmed the story of 40 beheaded babies He said he said beheaded babies yet in the article we just read right in front of us It says that he saw confirmed pictures of uh children children beheaded So what is it now? Is it 40 beheaded babies or is it Children beheaded, which one is it now daniel could because if you want to take one false statement or one ambiguous statement and say look he made a mistake Therefore he agreed to this. That's not how it works. That's not how anything works. Yeah, right. You got me. You got me I said, yes, I said babies. I did have children. Yeah. Yes. I did really really a big owner Got you a moment. Thank you for the demonstration. I indeed got you You further claimed that the idf that most of the civilians That died in israel were killed by the idf. Didn't you? I said there are some reports that a lot of the ones who are killed in israel were killed by The idf you want me to pull up those reports? I'm pretty sure. I'm pretty sure you said you said most Most they killed by the idf. Let's pull up the sources. Let's do you do you not stand by that now or what? Yeah, let's pull up the sources so I can tell us. Can you tell us which source that is? Yeah, I'm gonna pull it. Hold on. Is it going to be electronic into further? No, it's going to be winet. Good news. Are you are you aware of winet? Yes, I am. Does it say that right? Is that is that hama source too? No, is that is that hama source or not? No, does it say most civilians were killed by the idf? Let's let's open the the source Okay, okay, read it. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead because It is it is beyond reasonable doubt proven that the civilians were not mostly killed by idf and it is also not proven that Many people were killed by the idf. In fact, you presented a whole narrative here that it now shows that At the rave the idf came in with helicopters and killed people and they are witness accounts Daniel, can you name one witness or can you name one source? Which says that they saw the idf come in and shoot at people at the rave From helicopters I'm pressing you on each every single one of these claims because All of this is a lie and you do this every single time Every debate that you go into you make these baseless claims without any single piece of evidence This is a completely we're seeing the evidence. We're seeing the evidence right now. Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead shows Okay, do you see my script? Yes Okay, so this is a wined article We can go to it says israel ordered all combat units on october 7th to stop palestinian fighters from returning to raza with captives At all costs quote don't read it This was an order to use the Hannibal procedure, although without clearly mentioning this explicit name about 70 Vehicles were shot by a combat helicopter an anti-tank missile or a tank at least in some cases everyone in the vehicle was killed It is not clear Dude, you're such an idiot. Here's the article like the article is Misrepresenting you see this Yes, yes, can you show us what is the article? It's where it says that it is There's evidence that is proven their witness accounts that the eye that the idf helicopters went in and destroyed the Or killed people Go ahead shows come on. Yeah, this is just like when you cite When you cite a research paper and you only read us what the what the what a summary by somebody says about it Whereas the content of it doesn't say anything like that at all you're doing a fantastic job right now By the way, great track record Another lie exposed right there Uh-huh Why not article with google translate? Let's see what you know, hebrew. You want to read the hebrew? No, let's go ahead and see what it says You never really read this, did you? On the morning of october 7th several impressive episodes of heroism and sacrifice were reported in the history of the country But also a long series of failures malfunctions and chaos in the army The seven days investigation that will be published tomorrow outlines the first hours of black sabbath a command system That failed almost completely and was completely blinded Fighters who due to a lack of communication had to direct aid from the air using the cell phone Marines who brought fighters into battle with weapons without intentions or ceramic vests Old and unadapted Orders are pasted by copy paste and sent to the field blah blah blah Uh-huh All right, where is it come on come on daniel come on. You made a big claim show us. Where is it? Where is the evidence go ahead show us One of the revelations revealed just hold on hold on clown one of the revelations revealed in the investigation Is that at midnight on october 7th the idf ordered all of its combat units in practice to use the Hannibal procedure Although without clearly mentioning this explicit name the order was to stop at all costs quote Any attempt by hamas terrorists to return to gaza that is despite the fear that some of them have abductees It is uh, uh, uh, it is estimated that about a thousand terrorists and infiltrators were killed In the area between the otoff settlements in the gaza strip. It's not clear at this time How many were abductees were killed due to the activation of this command? So they're not clear on how many at abductees and this is like a month after this this article is from what date um Do you know what this is talking about daniel? Yes, it's talking about the Hannibal directive, which is the directive within the idf to kill You just told us any potential terrorists and israeli captives indiscriminately. That's the Hannibal directive You want us to look that up as well? Can you show us where in this article? It mentions that this was at the nova festival That's what that was the question because it was the claim. This is it's talking about october 7 So it's not limited to the where is the where does it mention the nova festival? That was your claim No, no i said on october 7 You said nova festival not just i said No, i said the nova festival and the kibbutz seemed you know what kibbutz is Yes, i actually do know Okay, do you know well that i mentioned both of them did i i didn't say that this source is saying only the nova festival So so you do not so you don't agree with your line of question So you so you don't establish i've established everything that you asked me to establish daniel So do you know what this art? Do you know what this article is? Do you know what this article is? Yeah, we read it. We all we read it clearly the article is talking about vehicles That passed the border and went into into the Gaza Strip. Yeah, they were talking. Yeah, that's where that's where the conflict That's where the casualties supposed to be happening on the border. Yeah He's talking on the border. Where do you think? Hold on one second Yeah, yeah, we just read it Or I should see your your passion So what I have to do is really quick I just want to jump in just to be sure because There's so much speaking over here that I just want to be sure that everybody's able to hear both of you One at a time though So go ahead. I think that you were saying a positive profit that there was something going on in the Article and then I think something to the effect of Daniel You were saying just at the border I want to give you guys a chance first AP if I got that right and then we'll go to daniel Yeah, his claim was that that there were that it is confirmed that helicopters came in and killed people at the Nova festival no such evidence exists It's nowhere the article explicit the article is talking about how israel Attacked vehicles which cross the border it says very clearly there to prevent them from coming back Where excessive use may have excessive force may have been used which may imply the Hannibal directive It never says that that was actually the order given So fantastic The article says explicitly that the order was given the Hannibal directive was given. That's why we just read we everyone saw on the screen We just read it there it's saying That it is implied although it wasn't explicitly mentioned. This is like the most pro-israel Website and it's saying that this is the directive that was given the actual directive is to kill any potential captives So they fired indiscriminately and they blew away 70 vehicles and they're not sure how many actually had Hamas and how many actually had israelis the article said that that we just read And where did they do that? Were they shooting inside israel or southern israel where all of october 7th all the attack Happened on southern israel. It was at the festival. It was at the kibbutzim. No, you're like this type of Trying to exonerate the idf on the basis of these technicalities. You know, I commend you on that That's a very israeli tactic, but it's also ridiculous. Like people are seeing the article right there Yeah, look at this article another art. Yeah, another article you're by the way, um to clarify this the Hannibal directive doesn't exist anymore It was a a directive in the past. Which is why did they invoke it? Why does this article from a month ago talk about it? Which is why the article that we just read which danily kikich himself put on directly says That an order was given which is um, you know implies the Hannibal directive It never says that the Hannibal directive was specifically ordered Because it can't be ordered because it is no longer officially a thing. So the same thing That was implied the article is meant. What is the Hannibal directive? The article is about what does the article Mean what does the article mean that it was implied? It says that uh, they are supposed to at all costs shoot at the Hamas vehicles that are that are At the border to prevent them from coming back. That's what the article is actually. That's not what is the Hannibal directive What is the implied Hannibal directive answer? That's exactly what it is shooting at the targets knowing that there may be that they may be Israeli abductees in the vehicles Which they made a difficult decision and decided to shoot anyway because they are preventing The thousands of Hamas terrorists from roaming inside israelan coming back. That is what was what what was uh, the case there It is not about telecom. Thank you shooting at the nova music festival. You have no single evidence for that I didn't say they're shooting at the nova festival. Just killing random israelis They're killing what a mixture of what they thought were uh, palestinian fighters and uh israelis They indiscriminately fire and they killed many of them hundreds of them apparently Okay, and you you just acknowledged that that's the case. No, I did not yeah You just explained that that's what the Hannibal directive is And that's what was ordered or was implied explicitly described here many many times that that is not the case but apparently you don't get it Everyone else is getting it. Yeah, we all heard you say it described what the Hannibal directive actually is So let me read from the Mishnah Torah right now. So do you have your questioning? You've you've asked me plenty of questions now now. It's my turn to ask. So yeah, so you have no nobody Now let me ask you questions. Let me ask you some questions. Okay. Go ahead. Go ahead so Maimonides The greatest legal scholar of the Torah In Judaism says if a Jewish male enters into relations with a Gentile woman when he does so intentionally she should be executed She is executed because she caused the Jew to be involved in an unseemly transgression As is the law with regard to an animal This applies regardless of whether the Gentile woman was a minor of three years of age Or an adult whether she was single or married and it applies even if the Jew was a minor of nine years old She meaning the non-Jew is executed. Do you yes or no? Do you condemn this teaching of the Mishnah Torah? I would have to locate to it Just assume if if You know put a conditional on it if I presented it Accurately and people can go to Muslim skeptic They can go to the link and read it off of a Jewish website If I've read it correctly and presented it correctly Do you condemn this yes or no if it was precisely presented in the very In the in the most correct sense just like that the way you read it. Yes, I would condemn it Okay, so do you condemn the fact that in Judaism if a Jew kills a non-Jew He is not punishable by a Jewish court You condemn that I do not condemn it because we cannot confirm that that is actually the case So Talmud talks about punishments applied within within a Jewish environment Where where a Jews and non-Jews are judged separately and Jews don't have Proper jurisdiction over what actually happens to to non-Jews. No, no, we're talking about a Jewish majority Which is discussed in the in the Talmud Thoroughly and you and I are not Talmud scholars Well, some of us know more about the Talmud than others, but the you clearly don't Yes, I do and also Israel Shah a Jewish historian and academic when he says Rabbinical authorities differ among themselves as to the precise details of the circumstances under which a Jew may rob a Gentile But the whole debate is concerned only with the relative power of Jews and Gentiles rather than with universal considerations of justice and humanity This may explain why so very few rabbis have protested against the robbery of Palestinian property in Israel It was backed by overwhelming authority He also says a Jew who murders a Gentile is guilty only of a sin against the laws of heaven Not punishable by a court to cause directly the death of a Gentile is no sin at all One of the most two most important commentators on the shulhan aruch, which is the Jewish legal text explains that when it comes to a Gentile One must not lift one hands to harm him But one may harm him indirectly for instance by removing a ladder when he's fallen into a crevice There's no prohibition there. So this apartheid Do you condemn this racial apartheid? Yes or no? Can you read that final part one more time the one that you just read? Okay The shulhan aruch explains that when it comes to a Gentile one must not lift one hands to harm him But one may harm him Indirectly for instance by removing a ladder after he has fallen into a crevice being like a hole So if you if if you remove a ladder Okay, intentionally remove a ladder that so that a Jew or a non-Jew rather cannot come up out of of a hole You'll kill him, but there's no problem there because it's indirect You didn't kill him directly by shooting him or stabbing him You just direct you just led to his death by removing the ladder There's no problem with that and even if you did kill him directly you murdered the non-Jew directly That's not punishable in any court of law. Now. This is very different than Islam. It's different from christianity This is specific to Judaism. So again, this is from an academic Jewish historian. Well known israel shahak Do you condemn this yes or no? I can answer this very very easily First off if it is presented exactly as it is. Yes, I do condemn it, but here is the issue You just read us a passage from a jewish text 16th century by the way on jewish law Which says clearly that you may not directly lift your hand and cause harm on Gentiles But you may do it indirectly while at the same time during this whole debate You are saying that they are following their Talmud by going after you know, Palestinians or non-Jews and directly targeting and massacring them. No, that's this is irrelevant This is a contradiction the the quote is not about war In war, there's a different set of teachings even in Islam There's a different set of teachings between war and and non-war. So this is like such a stupid objection in war It is actually there's a obligatory war. There's obligatory war and then there's voluntary war in both types of war Jews kill non-Jews, obviously They're commanded to kill non-Jews and the obligatory wars they are commanded to kill not only men But also women children and infants. This is Melchamet mitzvah. So this is this is standard Jewish law Okay, Danny, you just said that this is unlike Islam for example, such a thing is not found in Islam only in Judaism Um Is it not true that according to Quran chapter 9 verse 29? It says that Muslims are to fight those who do not believe in Allah And don't accept the religion of Islam fight them until they are humiliated and pay the jizya upon which means as Muhammad said it that Muslims are supposed to fight and converge the disbelievers Or make them pay jizya and to become humiliated them is or kill and enslave them which you even confirmed Is that true? Yes or no? Yeah, Islam has jihad We I've had many debates on jihad and the rules of jihad. But what differs what differs is that in Islam According to the explicit command of the prophet sallallahu alaihi wa sallam and as recorded in hadith found it in Sahih Muslim and elsewhere Your Muslim soldiers are not supposed to deliberately kill women children priests rabbis and the elderly This is the this is islamic law. But in Jewish law you are supposed to it's encouraging you It's obligatory to kill women children the elderly and even infants even animals And this is coming directly from deuteronomy also numbers within the old testament So this is a very clear difference between islam's rules of jihad And the jewish rules of war and uh that i've described to you So um according to you and then on the screen i'm sharing the screen the quote people are uh contesting that this is part of the Jewish law. Here's the mishnah Torah. This site is safariah a jewish site It says if by contrast the jewish male enters into relations with a gentile woman when he does so intentionally She should be executed She is executed because she caused the jew to be involved in an unseenly transit transgression as is the law with regard to an animal So this is very clear. It's not just one verse in the talmud referring saying that non-jews are animals This is in many many jewish texts and it's found as a basic concept within jewish law And even in the case of rape A jew can rape a three-year-old non-jew and then kill and then the non-jew Is killed the three-year-old is killed by the authorities. Why because this is like bestiality The jew committed bestiality by having sex with a with a non-jew So this is the type of religion that you're defending a uh, yeah, no No, where does it say that no where does it say that uh, nowhere does it say that i'm showing you this on the screen right now On this jewish website. This is the mishnah Torah chapter forbidden intercourse 12 Nowhere does it say what that they're animals. It says it right here If you let me speak I will actually you cut me off halfway through a sentence And then you and you deny what I just said before I even completed sentence. That's how you operate um It is not allowable in jewism to rape Gentiles or to rape anybody. That's not what the passage says. That's not what anything says You made the very same claim about the rabbi the the grand um rabbi of the of the idf al kareem you said that he said that uh, the soldiers are allowed to rape their opponents. This is Has been debunked thoroughly. In fact the very same rabbi Uh, the very same year. I think a week after he published that supposed article he clarified um Lots of people misunderstood this as condoning rape. I must clarify under no circumstances is rape allowed You can you can even find this. I mean you often uh, just post a wikipedia article and highlighted on your twitter page Just go on al kareem's wikipedia article. You can find it right there You didn't find it right where he says where he says it is clarified that he says rape is never permissible Yeah, after he got in trouble after he got in trouble for his remarks It went viral then he clarified, but his original statement Was that the soldiers can rape? That was his original teaching and his original statement And then when he got in trouble then he his he changed his story So go to Reuters if that's not uh, authoritative enough source for you rabbi colonel iyal kareem israeli military chief rabbi Designate is seen in this handout picture blah blah blah Israel israeli israeli's military has nominated a new chief rabbi who seemed to imply in a past religious commentary that its soldiers are Allowed to rape non-jewish women in wartime. Hmm. He implied it. This is like implying the Hannibal directive implying. Oh, yeah Just murder all of these uh potential israeli hostages because we don't want to negotiate with terrorists Like this these are everything is implication I can I actually read is i'm reading a statement right here, which is uh, not from Along after it is from the very same time when uh, he made that statement He says obviously in our times when the world has advanced to a level of morality in which one does not marry captives One must not perform this act which is also entirely against the army's values and orders because in the very article That was so controversially was talking about taking uh captives in wartime in ancient israel That's what it was about and I don't know why you have a problem with this considering that you are Okay with sex slavery including if the if the if the if the girls taken captive are four years old Which is no your own statement No, no, you're there's a big difference between concubinage that is practiced again in all these religions No, it's not because in in the mishnah Torah You can kill the person that you've raped So in in islam you can't just rape someone you have to take them as your concubine Which means you have to feed them you have to feed them you have to clothe them You have to feed them you have to clothe them you have to take care of them You're there if you have any children those children are free and they're your children But in Judaism There are different rules. Yes, but you there is if you're fighting amalek If you're fighting the enemy of the jews you are allowed the soldier can rape You know, basically you find a little girl In a palestinian village in her room and then you take her to an empty field and you rape her and then you can kill her That is completely kosher According to jewish law according to the mishnah Torah. We read we just saw the passage We can cite many other passages as well. I read them in the opening statement There's nothing like that in islam in islam. You have to actually you cannot kill women and children at all Uh deliberately, so this is there's no analogy here Deliberate no analogy deliberately, but you can kill them indirectly and it doesn't matter, right? If if there is some kind of like weapon like a catapult or something that um, well where there's uh potential casualties or Uh civilians that indirectly are killed then that's allowed Okay, I want to as a casualty of war but not deliberately like okay, there's women here. Let's kill them I want to then Judaism. It's obligatory within the obligatory wars to kill women Yeah, you haven't said anything. What's shocking is you have nothing to say about these rules in Judaism You have no condemnation. You don't have no question about these kinds of rules I just accept that you're you're apologists for genocide basically I I literally talked about this right now. Um, it's it's very funny your objection to Calling you a pedophilia activist was that I misrepresented you because you're not a pedophilia activist You advocate for child marriage and now you're Now you're saying uh, Islam is different because in Islam. There is no child rape. There's only child Or there is no raping of captives. There's only marriage in taking care of captives while raping them. Um, I want to cite a hadith a report about Muhammad and uh, just to get your confirmation that I'm uh, Representing it accurately Muhammad's armies were raiding the polytheists and um, They went to Muhammad and said during our night during our night raids Uh, we killed the women and children of the polytheists And Muhammad then says, um, they are from them Is that this is the this is collateral damage as I mentioned This is collateral damage that they weren't intentionally it was night and they couldn't see and then that in the morning They realized we have killed women and children. So no big deal Yeah, collateral damage and war it's in every war you have collateral damage You deny that's fantastic. Do you deny that? No, I completely accept that's also what's happening and uh in in Gaza right now But you're you fail to recognize the distinction that I made there's a distinction between collateral damage And deliberately targeting women and children. No, I I agree. I agree which which the with which Jewish law prescribes it actually Obligates the killing of women and children In terms of I do want to thousand children killed in Israel. All right. I'm gonna grant something I'm gonna grant just because I do want to be sure that we're focusing on what saw is the war And by that I mean usually people think the cause is preceding the war. So If you want to the cause of the war it are these Jewish texts the Jewish culture The Talmud the Mishnah Torah the teachings of Maimonides the the greatest legal scholar of Judaism This is what causes this kind of genocidal behavior from Israel speaking of Maimonides Uh, you said that Maimon you you cited Maimonides a lot And then you proceeded to say that Jews lived with Muslims forever and everything was okay. Um Maimonides is the very same guy who wrote What is known as the epistle to Yemen upon complaints from Yemeni Jews Because of their treatment and their persecution by Muslims They asked for help and Maimonides writes a letter to Yemen where he says These people the Arabs and Muslims are have have treated us us worse than any other people He complains thoroughly about them calls Muhammad a madman and says that Says that no other people ever have been as cruel to them and as disrespectful And bullying to them as the Muslims have been so it's very interesting that you Don't seem that's a letter to Maimonides. What did Maimonides respond? No, that's the letter by Maimonides to Yemen. That's his response to to the Yemenis to the Yemeni Jews Who complain about persecution he says Nobody treated us worse than these people that's in his letter Called the epistle to Yemen by Maimonides who lived in a very supposedly tolerant Muslim Muslim Spain. Well, I don't understand how Tolerant Muslim Spain was worse than What was to come I was being sarcastic. Yeah Yeah, no, no, I could definitely agree that the the reconquista and the the inquisition afterwards when it was taken Back by the Christian Iberians was was terrible and was probably worse Can definitely say that but the point I'm making here is that Maimonides doesn't agree with you that things were Brilliant under the under the Muslims for Jews. It's it's quite the contrary in the 19th century There is a very famous event known as the Damascus affair where The Jewish community was accused of a of of a ritual murder typical blood libel, which by the way, you also recently engaged in Where uh, where then were Jews were accused of abducting a Christian and a Muslim And then the Jews were thoroughly persecuted and this sent shockwaves around the Muslim world and also led to one of the formal ideas of modern Zionism What's the whole the whole point of your argument was that islam wants to kill all Jews and exterminate them Maimonides if he can complain about Muslims So what but the fact that he was living with Muslims means that he wasn't being killed. He wasn't being Imprisoned even so that debunks your entire argument. I understand now you're shifting your argument to say that Yeah, well, Jews didn't have such a great time Your original argument was that Muslims have to exterminate all Jews. So what happened to that argument? I never said that That was your entire opening statement That Muslims have a command by Islam because of this hadith that you butchered to kill all Jews So now you're walking that back. How did I butcher it? Because you you explained it as this hadith means that Muslims should kill all Jews till the end of time I never said that That's it. This is very interesting because I'm quoting something that is directly in your in your own sources And you are then taking that and turning that into a complete strawman I never said that because of this Of this prophecy and I call it a prophecy I'm not sure if I call it a command if I said that that was probably a very wrong choice of words But I don't think I did I said this is a prophecy that Muslims believe in and Muslims believe that in the future before the end comes They they will fight and they will kill the Jews. This is what they believe in I never said that Muslims take that as a command to kill Jews wherever they find them That's not how is it? How is it explanatory like how does it explain this current war? Well, very very simply. Um, I for example as a child, uh grew up learning that The day of judgment might be very soon the events might be very soon This is by the way a thought that Muslims had forever Muslims in the 7th century 8th 9th 10th 11th century And so I always thought it might be very imminent Muslims have the idea that the events might derail very soon and toward that time they will Fight and kill the Jews So it is quite expectable that the hatred between Jews and Muslims would derail and Go toward such a conflict, which is why it is inherent in Islam for Muslims to always have in A hostility against their ultimate enemy the Jews, which is why we're gonna say that Jews are their ultimate enemy Where does that even come from? That's just my conclusion here right now when I say that they that they are taught by Muhammad that they will fight and kill the Jews Uh, how would you draw that conclusion? Like that's that's the thing that I'm disputing. How do you? That's that that's the final that's the final big enemy the big mention. No, that's false Okay, there is also which group is the biggest religious group that is mentioned in the prophecies of the end As as the ones that will be fought Christians entirely Christians Is there any hadith that says you will fight and kill the Christians and exterminate all of them? No, not exterminate all of them, but you'll fight the Christians and you will fight the Christians Yeah, you will fight that hadith that you cited well is also about fighting the Jews You will fight Christians. This is not about fighting the Jews. This is uh understood because it's literally fighting you read the hadith It says fighting You will fight the Jews. Yeah, you will fight the Jews. They will hide behind rocks and trees And you will even rocks and trees will say there's a Jew behind me come and kill him There is no doesn't that battle. They'll lose. There's no According to Jewish You and anyone who's alive when the Messiah comes will be A slave to the Jews Each Jew will have 2800 slaves and the Jews the non-Jews that aren't killed, of course so when Maimonides complains about oh the the Muslims aren't being nice to me or whatever you claim in those epistles from Yemen Being a Jew living under Muslim rule is much better than being a Muslim or a Christian living under Jewish rule Because according to the Jewish rule the idolaters have to be killed There can't be no religion other than Judaism So if you're a Muslim you have to abandon your religion if you're a Christian you you either abandon christianity or die You're put to death Moss are destroyed Churches are destroyed. These are all things that are found in Jewish law In Islam, there's nothing like this Muslims can live as people of the book I mean, uh, Jews and Christians can live as people of the book under Better than being killed better than being killed under Jewish law But you have nothing to say about that. You have nothing to say about Jewish law. You have nothing to say about Those passages that I read I will say something Daniel, so you're you're um, it's it's very interesting your logic here is that I cited this hadith and say that uh, therefore Islam is responsible for the hostilities you say, um That doesn't make sense because in Muslim rule Jews lived even as second-class citizens, but they lived However, you then continue go on and say that israel in its history is based on Judaism and Has the goal of exterminating non-jews By your very own logic by your very own rebuttal That is complete nonsense because israel as a country has an error population of 20 percent most of which are Muslims They are growing. It's it's a very fast rapidly growing population has been growing There was never a decrease in that population plus recent studies actually by the Conrad Adenauer institution say that the majority By the washington institute and by the palestinian research institute together conducted say that 70 percent of israeli arabs feel tied to the to the israeli government and the most popular identification among israeli arabs Is to identify as an israeli citizenship more so than as an arab or as a muslim so This is I can put the study on the screen if you want me to but this is directly By from surveys of israeli arabs So by your very own logic then this means that israel is not genocidal and Judaism is not genocidal because under Judaism under israel Muslims seem to thrive quite happily as it seems Thriving is not being ethnically cleansed the definition of ethnic cleansing is when you're forced from your land So palestinians who are in you know, what's called israel are refugees They've been pushed from their land the ones that weren't Executed or exterminated in the nakba in 1948 the rest have been made refugees They've been literally pushed off the land the land has been cleansed And this is according to the understanding of greater israel from the nile to the euphrates river also based on the Torah that jews are entitled to so they're entitled according to their doctrine of obligatory war to cleanse the land And they call it like what's the term that they use now like voluntary resettlement Except it's not voluntary because you're bombing gaza and pushing the palestinians out Nearly two million palestinians are being evacuated from their land forcefully Something that you I guess don't understand to be ethnic cleansing because you're an ethnic cleansing apologist But that is the definition of ethnic cleansing when you push people off of the land The people that arabs who are within israel They are systematically discriminated against through apartheid laws because they are not jewish. They do not have the same Rights as the jewish-israeli population Are these is this your tweet Daniel? It says isn't it hilarious that the number one thing the trad cons are citing to justify their diehard support for israel Genocide in palestine is one five second clip of some rave prostitute Plenty of footage from of traditional families and so on. Is this what we are seeing here your tweet Yep, that's my tweet So this is this is what you actually think about the civilian population Inside israel and then you actually really want to sit here and talk about How non-jews are viewed and and where's the statement about the population of israel the population of israel is a bunch of Settlers who have stolen the land of palestinians through genocide and ethnic cleansing That's what I think about the population of israel So this is what we think about the population of israel. So the population of israel because they are settlers You have no regard for them at all and if they are brutally abducted and killed when they have nothing to do with the conflict at all Just reports actually was okay. Hamas was taking this person to a hospital after she was injured by israeli fire That's the reports that report according to hamas propagandists We also have a video where we should have idf propagandists instead No, we actually have a we actually have a video This is from a video this photo here where she has a hole in her head And she's paraded on the back of a pickup truck by these hamas terrorists who put the video is on her and in the video Show any in the video dozens are are are cheering applauding and spitting on her and even beating her No, the video didn't show any of that the video. Are you kidding rushing her? Do you want me to play it? Do you want me to play it? Spitting on her people are spitting. Yes. They are spitting on her. They're hitting her. They are And so on No, I'll show me where they're hitting her. No, okay. Yeah, go ahead. I can I can show you that it might be a little bit too graphic Maybe I have a censored version I actually if I show that due to the nature of the barbaric Hamas terrorist it The stream might get affected james If I have a censored version here I might have that right away But hey, you know what? Everybody knows this. This is one of the most one of the most Well-known footages of the from the conflict from october 7 and I can show it I can post it to you right after the debate and tag you on it and you can then correct yourself I can show you the full footage of her being paraded while Palestinians and Gaza are what do you mean paraded? What do you mean paraded? Hamas terrorists I have have her on a pickup truck. They drive her through Gaza while the crowds are cheering and And going and spitting on her. How do you know that they're cheering about her? Yeah, I mean this is this is your wow loose These are your loose arguments This is all implication There you have no evidence that she was actually killed or hit. I don't think she died at that moment Who actually shot her? You're the one who said that there was a there was actually a directive that was implied So it could have been actually the IDF who shot her and maimed her She was put in the truck to be taken to an hospital to a hospital for medical attention But the crowd was actually there to cheer on the vehicle because I know where this vehicle So they were hitting her and spitting on her. Those are the claims that you made. So yeah, if there's a video I'm open to you showing it ap especially. Let me know. Did you find the censored version? um, I If I look at it right now, I can show I don't even open to the Non-censored version you are okay, okay, but if you have a censored, it's probably a little bit safer I mean, it's probably gonna get Zapped anyway, or you can just send me you can send me the Video and I'll watch it and I'll be happy to say if there's any they're hitting her and You know and we even have all these things of us killing women and An adolescent directly on camera, which you also did well the IDF has women conscript. So We are talking about civilians talking about civilians. Not about how do you know? There are civilians not plain clothes because they're coming out of a civilian vehicle at a kibbutz And are then chased by Hamas and then plenty of settlers are reservists within the IDF that live in the kibbutzim Ah good in turkey, uh, where I where I lived for quite a while Every Turkish citizen is required to go to the every Turkish man is required to go to the military so that means every one in turkey every man in turkey is a Good target to kill if Someone wants to resist some oppression in turkey. That's the logic here good Yeah, if turkey occupied another people and started Genociding them ethnically cleansing them depriving them of food and water then yeah, that would be that would be uh A mean or that would be a reason for that occupied people to attack Turkish men. Yeah here here. We have it Here we have it. Okay. Let's see So We have footage um to be fair. I cannot Immediately confirm or see uh the beating that I described there are different videos of them beating Uh people on on the back of pickup trucks that there's another video where they do such a thing I don't know if that's if that's her though. In this case, you can see somebody spitting on her while everyone is Screaming a lot of work, but in celebrating this moment Yeah, I see the spitting so that's objectionable Um, but I still don't see parading as you described. I didn't see any beating. You don't think that is parading No, I thought they just returned From their operation and then people are saying a lot like that Yeah, why are they saying a lot of work in response to that because they are happy that she's being taken to a hospital Yeah They're taking like this was the operation because of 75 years of genocide and occupation and killing of palestinian women and children and infants poisoning them starving them They have this operation in order to survive That's what october 7th was and part of this operation was to Take these prisoners of war They took uh 200 I think Over a hundred prisoners of war Um to be used to bargain for their lives That's what palestinians have to do meanwhile. There are 6 000 palestinians in dungeons within israel Many of them under the age of 15 who are holed up. No one calls them hostages. No one calls them victims, but six over 6 000 palestinians hold up in israel For years and some of them are killed a lot of them are raped a lot of reports of Rape happening in these dungeons in israel. We don't hear any tears or crying from you or your kind So let's get this straight Hamas is transporting a woman whom they took from the nova music festival Who has a a hole in her head? They are transferring her on the back of a pickup truck from israel from ram into gaza to take her to a hospital wow That just amazing how that makes sense to you. What do you think about this footage here? Well, no, no, you played one footage. Let me play footage now You can play footage of people being uh people dying Daniel as just as us for one question at a time at the start of the debate ap will do Daniel the same in terms of videos being shown. Okay. Sure. Sure. Yeah, can go ahead But you can see here in this case. Are you just all those civilians? Uh a a why that I mean Daniel Would you like to show a video now? Yeah, I'm just pulling it up I'm gonna pop it out of here. We can't we can come back to an apostate prophet. Okay, so to be uh In alignment with what we did earlier But while Daniel is looking up that video do want to say folks that poll is still up in the live chat Thanks so much for your voting. It's up to 3,279 votes The options in terms of the possible responses are for the question of what is the cause of the israel palestine conflict Islam Judaism neither or both So do check that poll out and if you haven't yet hit that like button As Right now both Yeah, I would say both you think Judaism is responsible equally with Islam I would say Judaism is definitely also responsible for the conflict, but it's been a good way Where Islam is responsible in a bad way because if the ideals of of the jewish Movement of Zionism came into full fruition as they were there would be a peaceful nation in israel Whereas if the islamic ideals came into full fruition, there would be the genocide By the way, the text I read the jewish text I read talk about the elimination of all religions talk about the Genocide of idolaters talk about how there should be no religion except Judaism on earth These are the things I read you. So if Judaism is successful And israelis is successful. Those are the things that will come into fruition Islam allows for the existence of other religions and the ability for jews and christians to worship Even when muslims are in control the same is not the case for Judaism This is a this is a complete majority of this analogy between Islam and Judaism The majority of jews and and and all those in charge of israel believe in peaceful coexistence the majority of Those in charge of the palestinian territories. Hamas they don't believe in that The majority the majority of people in israel as well as the jews in the united states believe that israel is for jews and they believe in a jewish ethno state and they support the The killing of civilians in gaza like all the polls show that the that israel supports the idf tactics And think that there should be even harsher tactics for the idf to use against the palestinian population Do you want me to pull that up that pole? Okay? Okay, that that that doesn't make the point that you just that what you were just trying to make the point was The point was that according to the majority of jews and the majority of Religious or non-religious authorities in charge of of israel They should live together in coexistence with other religious groups. There is no belief in extermination or anything like that. Whereas under The islamic site. There is no equality and as for hamas jews shouldn't even live there You also misrepresented that by the way We have we have so many statements by hamas including as reason that 2018 saying that their goal is to exterminate the Filth of jews. I read you the hamas charter. I read exactly what the hamas charter said Yeah, you read the hamas charter. All you said is that they cited a hadith and that hadith means exterminate all jews, which I debunked I can cite to you the hamas leaders and what they have said for Over the decades right. I pointed to the hamas charter the official documentation. Anyone can say anything. Okay I'm talking about hamas leaders. I'm not saying I'm not talking about okay. Look at this talking about those in charge of hamas Oh, they can't hear don't hear what what you might have to do is Hold on. So if you jump out of screen share Just for a moment and then okay, go ahead and look it again But then don't select which window you want to use just wait So you don't want to play a clip from from today's conflict. You want to play a clip from 19 Which is talking about 1948 If I knew that you wanted to talk about the history of the conflict, I would have Love to discuss that with you. Yeah, we're talking about the entire conflict Yeah, that's what led to the conflict that is what we're talking about So if you hit share and then talking about the wall once the page comes up to select your window There should be a little box at the bottom says share your audio as well Okay, can you hear it now? I Okay Yeah Quite a long video. Do you do you know, um, I want you to do you want to explain to the audience what this is describing actually I Okay, we get the point can we get into why what this is about These are just idf soldiers. Yeah, and and what are you talking about massacring school children Which event is this describing laughing about massacring school children? There were so many massacres. Okay, can you take israel engaged in about this? Yeah, these are idf soldiers Who were engaged in massacring and raping children and girls and the villages that they've raided Throughout the history of israel. No when was that? What are they which event were they describing? They're describing the massacres and rapes. Does that even disturb you? He's laughing about 250 children that he it does It does. It disturbs you, right? You distribute that they're part of the idf Yeah, I do dispute that they're part of the idf. No, it disturbs me. That's what I said Uh, do you know when this is for the edge? They mentioned when this was in what event they are describing Do you know when this is from? What is the point? What is the point that you're making? You don't even know what you are describing here. This is about the this is about tantura, which is um, which is an event in 1948 they're talking about 1948 during the war With with the arab side between israel and the arabs This comes one year after the 1947 civil war started by the arabs against the zionists To an extermination war by the way to eradicate them and drive them out completely in 1948 The zionists established israel the arabs then unite with the neighboring arab countries and invade israel While evacuating large portions of their own population and amid of that massacres happen This is one of those massacres, which I think is terrifying and horrible, but that is what it's being Do you know how many villages uh, israeli soldiers liquidated in this civil war plenty plenty of them Yeah, over a five minute warning. We do have five hundred and sixty five hundred villages liquidated over 700,000 Arabs displaced terrible. Yes. Yeah, if it was a war, this was planned way before 1948 You had meetings. Yes. And within august of 1947 Ben gurion and other israeli leaders met and they drew out literally Their vision for the israeli state and the borders that became you know the the so-called 1967 borders And so that's what they actually implemented through planned genocide and this is documented by historians read ilan pop The ethnic cleansing of palestine and he describes the plot that they had from the beginning To cleanse the land and what is this based on this is based on judeism This is based on the Torah. This is based on the talmud all of the passages that I read to you promise israel israel for the land Israel is the land of the jews from the niles to the euphrates. So it includes the cyanide It includes jordan. It includes parts of iraq. It includes parts of the arabian peninsula It includes the golan heights in syria All of these are part of greater israel that zionists believe are promised to them religiously. They don't Yes, they do. I earlier. I earlier directly cited to you ben gurion himself During the creation of israel acknowledging that there will be a neighboring arab state Plus arab's inside the country, which is what they take into consideration If you wanted to discuss the history of the the early history of the conflict, I would go into that largely with you I know that you are clueless about it. You didn't even know what tantura is. You just learned it Uh a few days ago, you don't even understand that israel was founded as a jewish essence several You don't know you think it's a secular state where our religions are equal. I know. I know that's how clueless you are It actually it actually is You recently even claimed that during the nakba 700 000 jews were killed 700 000 Arabs were killed now as a mistake. That's okay. That was a mistake, right? You admitted it but then the follow-up you made to that was that 700 000 Arabs were killed and expelled Instead of saying I made a mistake. So here is the correction. Why would you say 700 000 were killed? and expelled because that's true because the the the the amount of people killed There are like it's between 5000 and uh 15 000 or something something like that. Whereas those uh Expelled and fled Are around 700 000 not even expelled only so expelled and this is like your whole argument Your whole argument is like oh you said and or oh biden said children not babies Like this this is the type of argumentation you engage in. It's a joke. Yes. When you say biden said uh, there are Then you say oh, there's a video of this woman who was being beaten. We don't see any beating Where was the beating? Where was the beating? I just acknowledged that. I saw this honest that you won't even acknowledge that I said okay, I can't see any beating here, but this beating is there I it was literally me myself pointing that out at first when we when we watched the video I have the decency to correct myself and to point that out you didn't correct yourself when I showed the The news articles about biden you didn't can correct yourself when I pointed the the israeli news article about the Hannibal directive Because you didn't correct yourself on any you didn't couldn't correct yourself on the mishnah Torah referring to non-jews as animals You haven't corrected yourself on any of these because you were wrong I showed it on the screen. I showed exactly what I claimed on the screen Okay, you're just your quibbling is oh babies versus children. Well, there are other articles that say biden referred to the beheading of babies Okay, yeah, you can read articles or tweets. We have the actual quote Children is by the definition anyone who is under the age of 18 babies is uh, one to two years or Three years old by a stretch And and you think if you think you can say biden said 40 babies were beheaded then you can just Quote him as saying confirmed reports of beheaded children and that somehow means the same thing to you. Are you insane? Yeah, and your tweet was also about babies your tweet was also about 40 Babies some of whom were beheaded. Yes, uh confirmed. That's what I said confirmed reports of 40 babies some of which some of whom were beheaded. That's what I said, which turned out to be complete myth and fabrication Yeah, I said that's the confirmed report and I later made it made a thread made a whole tweet clarifying what exactly happened and how There is misinformation within it and so on you could have seen that if you had the decency to actually look for proper information Because you don't care about information You don't care what we saw everything that I said was backed up backed up by this screenshot yeah, great Everyone has seen that everyone has fantastically seen that right here Yeah, and again, I encourage everyone to go to muslimskeptic.com where you can read the jewish texts that Talk about how they're the superior race how non-jews are animals. They're subhuman Within the zohari it even talks about genpiles as being satanic Having a satanic soul like this is the difference between islam and like you mentioned how in the in the quran It talks about how the nonbelievers have not seen any evidence at all of uh You of your big claim which you ran with uh idiot rebuttal from the very beginning Which was that um that the idf killed most of the civilians or as many civilians including at the nova festival We still have nothing about that at all. I asked you for evidence. You never provided it. Yeah, I provided evidence that There is not it even the even the idf even the israeli military has not confirmed What was the proportion of civilians to idf soldiers? The article that we just read I pulled up on the screen said it Uh-huh. So your claim is the idf killed most of the civilians or many of the civilians and That can be backed up by saying the idf has not confirmed the proportion of Those killed by the idf and those killed by hamas So I don't have the the citation on hand, but the fact that the idf did Did target 70 vehicles? and Hit them with missiles and they don't know how many of the dead which were burnt to a crisp Were idf soldiers or or civilians? That is evidence that a huge proportion Was killed by the idf arguably the majority or it can't be confirmed This is the thing it can't be confirmed because the bodies were burnt to a crisp with the hellfire missiles that israel launched And using the Hannibal directive against their own civilians Where where those cars destroyed where they at the nova music festival or where they at the border of some of them were at the festival So no they were they were not no they were not Yeah, I mean there is for that and there is no single evidence you can provide because that's completely made up I can can see they weren't at that festival. They're the idf murdered them in some other place So that means so that means your your your claims about the idea of killing people at the nova music festival are completely baseless Thank you. No, no, I didn't say they The destroy you're saying that the destroyed vehicles were not at the festival So I'm saying no idea the idf didn't kill anybody at the festival. There is no single evidence No single witness saying anything like that. This is just like when you say that the tunnels in new york city were actually Child sacrifice sex trafficking tunnel. I didn't say that. Where did I say that? Where did I say that? Okay? Maybe it's not child. Uh, oh, okay. Let's see. Let's see that. Let's see what you said. Okay. Let me bring this up Let's see what you said your tweet about the tunnels is now I know for for Sure that these tall Talmudic tunnels were for child trafficking. These are your words about The the new york city tunnels where students of the haraidi jewish community Against the authorities of their own religious, uh, you know school Built a tunnel to expand their temple You interpreted that together with the neo-nazis as a child trafficking ring to abduct children and use and abuse Do you have proof that wasn't used for child trafficking? Wow What you want me to provide you want me to provide the proof where where where is the so it is true You'd pay because I don't have proof that shows that that proves that it's not Let's use your standards. Thank you for exposing yourself here right here So your conspiracy theory is true because I don't have proof to the contrary. Wow This is you see my statement was just this is what he could choose my statement was just facetious No, it's a possibility based on what judeism actually teaches This is what the mission at Torah the mission at Torah says that it's fine They could as orthodox or Hasidic Jews They could actually engage in the rape of three-year-old children and then kill the children. That's consistent with The mission at Torah which is why you made multiple tweets where you describe these tunnels as Talmudic tunnels Which are are they not Talmudic? Which are they not Talmudic which are a child trafficking? Are they not Talmudic tunnels? What are you talking about? What you said Talmudic tunnels for child. Can we call them Talmudic tunnels? What does Talmudic tunnels mean? It means tunnels built according to the rules of the Talmud and and Jewish law What what what are you talking about? Are there are there directions in the Talmud saying? Yes, you may build tunnels under this community to expand it against the wishes of your own Religious leaders. What are you talking about? What Talmudic tunnels? You described it as Here's a question for your credibility. This is what you are if you could if you if you had to get rid of One religion Christianity or Judaism Islam and you had to pick one Judaism or Christianity? Which would you get rid of neither? No, you have to pick one. Which one? Nope. That's a false Choice, I don't do it. It's a hypothetical. I'm I'm supposed to answer hypothetical questions Why can't you you can only get rid of one Judaism or Christianity? If you had to kill one of your parents, your father, which one would you get rid of? Which one would you get rid of? Why can't you answer that question? Because it's a stupid question. Well, but you know that If you had to kill one of your parents, if you had to kill one of your parents Which one would you kill your father or your mother? If I had to then the mother gets priority So the father would have to kill yeah, so which I can answer hypothetical questions. Can you If you had to if you had to get rid of one religion Judaism or Christianity, which one? Okay, if you had to rape one of your parents your mother or no, no, no Why why can't you answer the question? I answered your All right, let's go to It's okay. We know that we know that you can't alienate your Jewish donors, and you can't alienate your Christian donors You can't answer a simple question Everyone heard you Just smile and nod as I read about you know these these passages from the Talmud and the Mishnah Torah and the Shostan Aruch and the Let's go. We're over time. I hate to do this, but we got to jump into the q&a Oh, we had closing speeches I don't remember that. Let me check. Oh, you're right. Okay Five minute closing for apostate prophet first do want to do a couple of quick housekeeping things first folks Thanks so much for all of your support If you enjoyed this debate and you know of a friend or a group online where they would enjoy a controversial topic like this And a neutral debate platform like modern day debate hit that share button below Share this debate with them but that we're going to jump into the closing statements ap the floor is all yours so, um, I would say that it has been very much confirmed throughout history and also even in this debate today that It is the Islamic side that is unfortunately incredibly violent and hostile And that is that has an irreconcilable belief irreconcilable with with peace and mutual respect and tolerance Despite then I kick it to deflecting from it and um denying it Hamas leaders and I'm not saying anyone. I'm saying Hamas leaders including Fatih Hamad for example, who is who is the major propagandist in charge of al-Aqsa TV Which is the main broadcasting? Channel in Gaza He went out as recently as 2018 and said in four years brothers in four years We will rid Palestine of the filth of the jews And we will establish a caliphate from where we will lead the banner. This is what he would what the Hamas Propagandist said in the name of Hamas For many decades they have announced that their goal is to ultimately kill and eradicate the jews Despite making slight changes and differences in their, uh, english or you know international announcements in their charters Um, unfortunately, Daniel said here today making Creating lie after lie after lie making allegations without being able to back them up He said that idf mostly killed the israeli civilians. He had no evidence for that He said they killed civilians at the nova festival. He had no evidence for that He said uh that they came in with helicopters and you know attacked Their own civilians. He had no evidence for it. He said I spread the 40 beheaded baby story. No evidence Um, he said I claimed that Muslims are commanded to go out and kill jews everywhere strongman, I never did he This just goes on forever. I don't know. I feel like I asked for the whole closing statement But this open dialogue section was so telling that I think um it is pretty much concluded here that The question has been answered everybody has seen it And you know what? I am nothing but happy that Daniel actually agreed to this and allowed me To expose him for the liar the fraud that he is And for exposing islam for the violent and hateful ideology that he that it is And for exposing the palestinian side and hamas for the ridiculous stuff that it uh follows and promotes and also one final remark, um As you have just seen according to Daniel you can call You can say anything about everything out there as long as there's no proof to the contrary you can push any kind of propaganda He pushed a propaganda that jews built tunnels in new york city to abduct and have sex with children Um, and his response to that was well, do you have proof that it's not true? And just like that, I have to say Unfortunately, I'm not funded by the jews But you can say that I am funded by the jews and that I have big donors for whom I am doing this Because there is no proof to the contrary. So I will rest my case at that. Thank you We'll kick it over to Daniel as well for his closing statement for his all yours Um, can you just give me a 30 second warning? Sure Okay, so let's uh go to the closing statement here are Um, I need to share my screen though Ready. Okay. Here is an article from herrits that discusses how The idf did fire at the nova festival and they hit some revelers at the festival It also shows a military helicopter that fired a terrorist apparently also hit some revelers So the nova festival was targeted by the idf This is a herrits article that you can go and refer to and it's translated by google translate um evidence of uh, child rape happening in New york by american jewish people This is something that has also been reported on by vise the child rape assembly line that talks about how about 50 percent Of his acidic jewish boys have been the victims of rape by rabbis and other elder men within their community um examples of idf Actually raping uh palestinians. There are so many reports. We can't even show them all within a whole two hours But here here is just one example Um, here's another example field executions torture and threats of rape in gaza israel army replicates the crimes committed by zionist gangs In 1948 so all of this is par for the course for israel and the whole point of my argument was to say that these are not just Random acts of atrocities that are committed. This is actually based on the jewish religion And I pointed out three main doctrines of the jewish religion um that Creates these kinds of atrocities and this hatred for human life or non jewish human life actually The first doctrine is that jews believe Or the jewish religion teaches rather that jews are a superior race and that non jews Are not even human and in fact may have satanic souls This is not found in islam in islam if people are described as being the worst of creation It's based on their own actions and their choices that makes them evil or makes them bad But within judiism simply because of not being a jew You are therefore inferior in fact, you're not even human and you may be even satanic According to the zohar and other kabbalistic writings. So this is a clear difference between islam And judiism and even christianity and judiism the second doctrine the The second doctrine Is judiism preaches an apartheid system a racial apartheid system based on whether you're born a jew or not This kind of apartheid system has led to this actual apartheid within the state of israel where non jews are systematically discriminated against There was a big controversy when it was revealed that the israeli government was literally sterilizing Ethiopians within israel against their will so Ethiopians who have No clue of what they're being given by the israeli government in terms of medication It turns out that the israeli government was sterilizing them and this was reported in the guardian And you have many statements coming from rabbis within this conflict and even preceding it explaining how The even a million non-jews are not worth the fingernail of a jewish person This is the teaching of the talmud. This is the teaching of the mishnatora the shulchan aruch etc And the third doctrine within judiism that we discussed is that jewish law sanctions Genocide the killing of men women and children and infants it sanctions rape as a weapon of war Now whereas other religions In fact, the majority of them allow the taking of concubines including islam within judiism They have a specific doctrine where the jewish soldier can take a woman or child Into a deserted area rape that woman and child and then discard that woman or child through murder through killing This is sanctioned within judiism and we see many examples of soldiers who have engaged in this practice because they believe that they're religiously Allowed to do so there is no such teaching within islam and there are no confirmed reports of any type of this behavior within October 7th or thereafter on the part of palestinians So this is the difference between islam and judiism and this is why judiism is definitely the source Even for non-religious jews people who say that Well, daniel is only teaching us about judiism But that doesn't say anything about what israel does the majority of israel is religious The majority of israel are torah practicing jews or they believe that the torah and the talmud are valid This is this is the difference With that we're gonna jump into This was a little bit strange because he basically acted like it's an opening and presented new evidence As if he was making uh Preparing stuff again, which by the way we're gonna jump into the q&a European study is to buy We don't need an extra comment from you I get you do have a chance if there's something in the q&a that's related You can say whatever you guys want since you guys have been off talking so much anyway But I want to say folks. Thanks so much for your questions. Just a couple of quick things first This channel has memberships If you are in the live chat right now or ever you're like, oh James the slow mode really because we turn on the slow mode to make sure it's not going too fast To make sure people are staying reasonably within the youtube terms of service You're like james come on I just want to send as many messages as fast as I can With a membership of just 99 cents any membership level even just 99 cents a month You can get past the you could say the slow mode. You'll have immunity to it So highly encourage you check out those channel memberships now. We're gonna jump into these questions Thanks so much for your question this one coming in from and we've got a lot of these guys So I got it if you can do me a favor and keep your responses as pithy as possible And only occasionally rebut the other as these questions are generally addressed to one person We're gonna jump into it born again. Stefan. Thanks so much. Does muslim skeptic is him. Oh wait last question To daniel and posse prophet You guys want the questions like all questions like jerry springer or you want to keep this a little bit more formal What does that mean? Yeah, I don't like By jerry springer, I mean like the insults like if they say, you know, look at a posse prophet's stupid face Like do you want me to read that? Yeah, go ahead. I don't care. Okay. You got it I mean, I made that one up, but this one coming in from they said muslim skeptic is hamas a terrorist organization So hamas is designated a terrorist organization Uh, I believe by 35 or 37 countries the majority of countries do not Designate hamas a terrorist organization the un actually Did not agree to Characterize hamas or designate them as a terrorist organization. So that is what the un says And that's why I go with You got it this one coming in from to appreciate your questions Sar faraz and sorry says question and daniel if israel's invasion of palestine is oppression What about all the invasions done by muslims in the past can't israel's mission be considered as israel's offensive jihad Yeah, so um Judaism has offensive conquest within its doctrines as we went over in the opening statement islam does as well christianity does as well and liberalism and secularism are Offensively based as well. That's what's spreading freedom and democracy means by force But within the difference is that within judaism There is an element of genocide and extermination and wiping out other religions And this is what makes judaism particularly dangerous and this is why we have to root out Jewish extremism and force jews to abandon these teachings. Thankfully, there are some jews who completely find these teachings Disgusting and they reject those aspects of jewish culture that have internalized these Racist genocidal rules of judaism, but unfortunately there are many majority of jews who have this type of these extremist beliefs They believe in genociding men women and children and infants. They believe in Mass rape as a weapon of war. They believe in actually exterminating all religions But within islam, we don't have this kind of doctrine We don't have the doctrine of exterminating all religions. You can be a jew christian and according to To fiqh opinions like the hanafi school and the madaki school. You can actually practice hinduism You can practice these other religions zoroastrianism within a muslim state So this is a big difference between islam and judaism This one coming in from for ap Stupid beta energy says how does ap reconcile varying interpretations of bible texts on israel land claims with archeological and historical evidence of diverse regional claims Um, I don't have a problem with it at all. It doesn't it doesn't matter to the Conflict at hand to me. I never argue from the perspective that the jews have A natural right to the place because of the because of this this ancestral You know history. That's never my point. I never I don't remember ever arguing from that point My argument is vastly based on modern sinism and That as a solution And the rejection of the idea that this land belongs to some indigenous population that is right now there Because such a thing does not exist. Uh, it is correct The historical aspect is that there is a huge mix of genetics and all of that in that region and Yeah, it doesn't all of that doesn't matter too much to me, honestly Like would you be happy with there to be 60 percent jew like 60 percent arabs Taking up the population of israel or 70 percent or 80 percent of israel being arab I don't think would you be fine with that? Demographically, I don't think it would have any impact on whether i'm happy or not I would you be happy with that or not so many This one from my name is shawn says daniel. You can't grow a beard just give and say or give up Oh my gosh, daniel. You have a nice beard. This one from is there. Jabril says daniel One was the last time you heard of a jewish person proudly murdering an idolatry in the name of religion Many like there's many examples that we see within tiktok and youtube of Rabbis who are talking about the extermination of christians and saying that we're proud of this rule go to yosef Mizrahi Rabbi yosef Mizrahi I linked it on muslimskeptic.com and he talks about how there are two billion christians in the world There are four billion chinese indians japanese their idolaters and they do not have the right to live That is the statement of rabbis. There are many quotes like that Yosef Mizrahi is just interesting because he puts it all like it's all recorded and it's there for everyone to see But this is what judaism teaches and everyone who claims that. Oh, no, this is not judaism This is just apologetics and judaism itself actually within the talmud tells Jews to actually conceal their teachings and to actually hide their teachings from the world This is another part of the talmud that we didn't have time to discuss Resulting coming in from do appreciate your question. A.m. Says never forget how israel funded al-qaeda in syria I don't know anything about that It's a good matter syria. Um israel did engage in um in supporting different sides for uh regional strategic benefit benefits so did america So did turkey and so did almost every party that was involved in the in the region But there is no, uh evidence at all behind the whole claim that israel funded these These these hard line terrorist islamist groups like like isis or al-qaeda There is evidence of isis apologizing for israel to israel for accidentally Attacking one of their soldiers or one of their bases. There's also evidence that isis apologized There's also evidence of is of isis directly attacking and celebrating israel. So This one coming in from Matters now says daniel. Why are commenters on your website stating that they need to train their children to be armed and Violent jihadists your notes for today Commenters are saying that muslims need to be ready for jihad. Yeah, that's something that Every muslim needs to be prepared to fight for their lives because we're being killed In china by the Uighurs are being genocided. We're being killed in syria. We're being killed in iraq. We're being killed in israel You know so-called israel. We're being killed in Africa muslims are being killed and slaughtered around the world So muslims need to be able to defend themselves and protect themselves from this kind of mass slaughter that's taking place While the international rules-based order Looks on and pretends like it's not happening. So it's a good message You got it only three likes away from 800 live folks. Thanks for your support Usair gibreels says daniel since the talmid a record of conversations and folktales Why do you think it is a primary source of halakha for jews today? The talmud is a primary source of halakha of like laws and regulations And legal rulings the talmud is but it's not the only source There is also the tenaim different texts that are written between you know the basically The zero ce and 200 ce You have the shulchan aruch Which is a definitive commentary on or a definitive legal manual that's derived from the talmud You have the mishnatura, which is a definitive commentary on the talmud all of these texts Together form Jewish law and this has affected jewish culture So even secular jews who say that they're not religious They have been affected by this by these legal rulings in one way or another and that's what affects israel It affects the idf. They have head rabbis who are constantly teaching these things directly from the talmud and other authoritative legal texts You got it. Thank you very much for this question coming in from yashua the king says Why do muslims only have these huge protests for palestinians and don't have these same size marches for other oppressed muslims? People hate yahood much They are very much united in their hate for for jews and less united in their care for Other muslim populations when jews are not at play. That's usually how it goes You're just not paying attention. There's massive Marches that have taken place for syria for yemen for the weegers. There's marches as well that take place You're just not paying attention to them. I don't be honest Have there has there been such a huge outrage such a huge global movement for The the civil war in yemen the the massacres in syria Even the the uger But the claim in the claim in the question was that there's none there's none I'm pointing out that yes, there are okay. I think about palestine. I truly assure you the thing about palestine Is that their oppression is so over the top and so outrageous? the killing of palestinians is so brutal and so outrageous that People are more outraged about israel than in other places where it might not reach the same level of brutality More people died in the syrian and yemen civil wars each one of them than in the entire conflict of israel And to palestinians also, i'm not sure that we can say that those conflicts are not directly due to israel as well Israel israel foment civil war and all of the middle east and this is this is I don't know. This is described in historical documents. Go read the unown plan Where israel in 1980 sets out its plan to create civil war throughout the middle east in order to weaken israel's enemies This is a historical fact. This is a part of israel's foreign policy That's not what the plan is the plan. That is what the plan is. It's a hypothetical plan I hate to do this guys, but just look into the middle east otherwise we'll be here forever This one from yashua the king So that last one technically to be fair daniel if you want to have the last word since the question was addressed to you I don't want to gang up on you. So if you want the last word you can otherwise I gotta go to the next one Yeah, you know plan is the plan that it was adopted by israel and the massad And it's something and this is why israel is hated because they're behind these kinds of civil wars And their foreign policy is based on this global islamophobia is coming from israel It's funded by israel all of the major is islamophobic organizations the ones that even attack me are funded by Zionist jews like this is a fact No, it's not this one coming in from do appreciate your question yashua the king says why do muslims only have these huge We got that one. Thanks very much for your stupid horror energy says Not that says how does judaism reconcile the ethical and humanitarian concerns raised by the conflict with its religious and historical claims to the land? I think that's for uap Um, okay, can you repeat the question again? Yeah This is from super beta energy says how does judaism reconcile the ethical and humanitarian concerns raised by the conflict with its religious and historical claims to the land I Don't understand what is there to reconcile to the historical claims, but um, I guess if you want to talk about The the humanitarian concerns I mean it has always been the narrative of always has always been that Is sad and unfortunate what is happening? And there are condemnations and worries about it going through the land all the time Right now with the situation in the current israel hamas war. What is happening is that Is that in response to such a major brutal attack which nobody? accepts There is an an operation done that is seen as complete necessity to completely bomb and destroy hamas and While minimizing civilian loss, which is why israel from the beginning of the conflict before they started bombing long before Repeatedly said go to safer areas. They never said safe areas. It's safer areas because they're They will be they will be targeting you will be harmed. It is an unfortunate reality that in wars Uh, civilians die people die and so on but it is of unfortunately also a reality that this war must take place Because the other side is the war is the one pushing it plus it is also hamas that explicitly and openly said they By multiple of their representatives that it is not their responsibility to protect their own civilian population They build tunnels under the population in order to protect themselves when they fight the zinus and they are proud to martyr the civilization Wow Which I just got an email from twitch that says we have temporarily been suspended. Okay Well, it's uh, what are you gonna do? You can't please ever live streaming this to twitch Yes Oh, you know, I like to live dangerously daniel. Yeah, this one coming in from do appreciate your question Gabe's world says serious question. How did israel not see it? They knew Is it true israel knew that this was going to happen AP and that they let it happen to have a justification So there is a lot of talk about the role of is what the israeli government in in this and I asked the very same question Because I had the very same concerns. I asked the same question to certain to israelis to others Even to a to a guy who prominently Is an israeli advocate for Israel's survival and all of that and he also agreed it said there is a lot that needs to be talked about internally lots of people The majority in israel Think that the government Failed horribly on october 7 There there are a lot of course conspiracy theories about how They knew it and let it happen and all of that but the the majority consensus right now is that They were warned but didn't take it seriously Um, no matter what it is. I can't side with either of those things no matter what it is after this war is over There will be a great reckoning and the whole net and yahoo legacy will probably be over You got it. That's the one coming in from do appreciate it pointless poppy says I have to go to work But thanks for being kind on the call screen the other day And daniel stopped being uh, okay I don't know who that is or who they were talking to yasha what it came says israel Forces its citizens to enlist in the army. So if muslims attack israel can they go after anyone 18 and older since they are reserves In civilian clothing Yeah, I think that's a good question That's a good question. Basically, they're all reservists And you see pictures coming from televieve With you know these teenagers wearing automatic weapons and going to the mall Going to the coffee shop, you know loaded Basically, so, you know, this is israel's policy. So that's a really good question This is a very interesting point that is always raised We always see from gaza that the civilian population including mostly children engage in violent protests and acts That they are directly led to the war zone to the border And and all the palestinians and all the gaza's especially learned from a very young age They're supposed to fight and kill the jews. And this is not something that i'm making up This is what they're directly broadcasting on their major tv channel. So, um by the way, israelis are teaching their kids israel's israelis are teaching their kids The talmud that non-jews are not humans not just palestinians. Netanyahu is calling palestinians amalek Which means that they have to be exterminate. Yes You're denying that netanyahu is called them amalek No, uh, i'm not denying that i'm saying okay. He's called them amalek. I'm saying i'm saying that um, the biblical people That jews are required to exterminate. That is what palestinians amalek. I already went into this in the in the rebuttal I don't know why he didn't call them amalek. No, he said he Maybe he used amalek metaphorically for hamas. Did he did he use amalek or not? Did he call them amalek or not? Yes or no? He used amalek. He didn't call palestinians amalek Yes, it is. No. No, he did not. He said in reference to the war remember amalek Yeah, do not forget amalek. No, what is he referring to then? That's not what he said. She said yes It is what amalek did to you. That's what he said That is a reference because that is the historical how is that relevant to the palestinians then used in judaism Because israel is at war with hamas not with the palestinians all together Amalek refers to the children as well the women and children as well So to use amalek even if he was only referring to hamas It's talking about the women and children of hamas as well. So this is a genocidal statement by nits and yahoo Many children are our genocidal statement by nits and yahoo It's the genocidal statement by the head rabbis of the idf and israel they call the palestinians amalek It's funny how you're doing this because i'm saying by your logic all palestinians are also legitimate targets And then you are turning this around and basically confirming while i didn't say I didn't i didn't say like israeli children are legitimate targets I never said that said those who are i know part of the army over 18 And they're part of the army when they're conscripted then and they're carrying around weapons Who can say that they're civilians by definition. They're not civilians. That was how is that analogous to little children in gaza Do you were not asked whether they carry weapons you were asked about you're gonna give ap the last word how everyone is Is is a reservist nobody mentioned them having weapons on them I have to go to the next part of the matters now as reservists guys, but we otherwise it'll go Matters now says i'm doing an after show open stage on matters now the youtube channel to discuss This debate and what we think About both arguments Hing josea of juda says daniel how can you complain about israel killing kids sahin sahi muslim 1745 b saa b jay said to Muhammad messenger of allah. Allah. We killed the children of the polytheists during the night raids. He said they are from them Yeah, I responded to that that hadith is referring to collateral damage and all of the authoritative legal commentaries on that hadith say that it's referring to collateral damage Not deliberate targeting of women and children. This is a not the same in judaism in judaism You can go guns blazing maybe rape a three-year-old first before you blow him blow her away with your Automatic weapon that's the difference between islam and judaism. Well israel is by no Professional standard to targeting civilians But exposing civilians to danger even according to the harshest Critics that are actual legitimate organizations. Oh, yeah, it's being is being insensitive toward collateral damage That's what the allegations are. I'm 24,000. I'm not talking about you. I'm not talking about you're islamis. I'm talking about 8,000 children 8,000 children. Yeah, that's really not targeting according to civilians No, according to the un according to un fact finders according to the official estimates eight thousands the lower Okay. Well, well, here's your thing. You say Uh, collateral damage is fine israel says this is collateral damage. So why are you complaining? No, no their collateral damage is not oh, I'm going to nuke a village and then everyone is going to die their collateral damage That's not what they're doing. That yeah, that that is what they're doing They're dropping 2,000 pound bombs and heavily densely populated gaza Where 50 of the population is under 18 years old This is what is real is doing is no accident is what is where the 8,000 It's no accident that 8,000 children are killed and and nithin yahoo is talking about amalek and wiping out amalek And their soldiers are soldiers are singing and dancing about amalek. We're going to wipe out their children We're going to rape them This is the idf and the most moral army in the world You're all the you're all like tribes this for daniel Why are muslims always taking verses and scriptures of the bible out of context and not separating the stories and ways of the Old testament away from the new testament This is I don't know about the old testament. I never take anything out of context I cite the verses within this debate I cited multiple sources none of which ap could respond to rid von couldn't respond to a single Citation when I did press him he did condemn one one passage within the mission of Torah But everything else that I cited he has nothing to say other than oh, this is just out of context I presented all of the context So this is this is just an apologetic to get out of the shocking things Like everyone is shocked about these passages and how a supposed atheist can't condemn them This one coming in from the uralic tribes as well Also, why is daniel lying that there would be peace under islam for christians when muslims forcefully converted and enslaved my people In central europe into islam for 150 years during the ottoman empire Which they don't think he could endorse by the way No, no, there's no force conversion in islam if that happened which I object to and I Don't agree with that presentation of history in islam. There's no force conversion of christians christians can live as protected People's according to islamic law. This is falls under the akam ahlodimma the rulings pertaining to the protected people There is no force conversion of christians within islam Within judiism there is death penalty death penalty for christians because they are considered idol worshipers and their churches have to be destroyed their Children and women have to be slaughtered because they're idol worshiping people. That's judiism This one coming in from do appreciate it. Joshua wooden says look at daniel's sources He claims as inspiring philosophy. Mike jones called out as a popular public figure said he is slippery Please if I can't debate nadir, then daniel versus nadir Nadir, is that you? I don't know whatever Yeah, these are people that like islam means peace and islam is exactly like 21st century secularism like they're a joke and There's no point in debating them You got it this one coming in from do appreciate your question hector says every source daniel cites he misrepresents He still has a video up falsely claiming that 3000 idf were killed. Will he own up to that mistake? No, I didn't the claim is not a mistake But what was shown on the screen was not the source that I was referring to So the editor the editor made a mistake From what you're describing, but the actual claim that 3000 soldiers that there are reports of that many soldiers being killed There's over 10,000 soldiers who are idf soldiers are injured And that's coming from israeli sources itself So something is not adding up with the total casualties of the idf Daniel the claim is a mistake. You can just own it and correct it instead of trying to Dance around it and the fact that you put on the screen A text that seemingly supports your claim, but actually it doesn't just Gives everyone the impression that you're making that very specific claim, which is a false claim This one coming in. Oh gotta remind you folks If you didn't know about this jay dyer is going to be facing daniels pal jake the muslim metaphys- metaphysician This is going to be a huge debate folks. You have to see this february 17th. That's a reason to subscribe You don't want to miss this debate. It's going to be gigantic. I can tell you Muslim metaphysician regardless of what you think of his views the same thing with jay dyer These guys are buzz saws. They are really good debaters. They are very quick on their feet You don't want to miss that christian versus muslim debate coming up in less than a month That's jay dyer versus jake muslim on trinity versus tahid With that we're going to jump into the next question messianic apostate says daniel hello What is islamic law's policy of deporting people? I don't know like deporting people That's so within a islamic state or islamic nation um people you can have a minority um like a non-muslim group of people of the book etc That they can live and they are given rights like they have a right to life They have a right not to be defrauded. They have a right to their property These are all rights that islam recognizes of non-muslims that are within islamic territories Again contrast it with judaism the non-jews don't have any of these rights And this is explained in their legal texts. So I don't know exactly what is being Referred to it's judaism that has the this policy of cleansing the land cleansing israel by force Um by removing non-jews, but there's no analog to this in islam And that's why you have so many non-muslim populations living throughout the muslim world to this day They've lived there for thousand for 1400 years and they have their churches. They have their synagogues. They have their Schools and they've been able to live as their religion for generation after generation But within israel christians are dying out christians are having a mass exodus Arabs have to live under apartheid and the ghazans are being cleansed off of their land as we speak So in coming out, how much is khalif khalif state expel, uh, jews as collective punishment, didn't they? Yeah, after the jewish tribes Backstabbed the muslims and reneged on their agreement in an attempt to kill all the muslims as collective punishment I hate to do this, but I would josha wooden says well done atheist ap You know good from evil as god's law is in everyone So all gods quote unquote are not the transcendent objective truth as daniel always shows I'm not sure who that's supposed to insult or compliment The heavy heart show daniel has no civility. Oh my goodness. He said this is what they always do cleverness of speech in quotes absent of truth as paul condoms dude takes pride in his shame I'm always amused by christians who take offense at a critique of judaism like are you a christian or are you a jew Which one is it? Because within judaism, they have this extreme hatred. They hate no one more than jesus christ And they hate hate no one more than christians, but you have these christians who will simp for judaism. It's really funny It's funny because most most jews in israel, uh are Think positively of christians according to all the data. That's why they spit on them And that's why there are all these viral videos of jews spitting on christians within israel Of certain jewish communities, but you are acting as a religious jews. Yeah, they're they're spitting on christians No, not the religious. I'm not just religious jews This is what they're used to they're all they're all spitting on christians taking back eden flat earth says challenge to all in chat Memorize the ten commandments parables of jesus and the good news today. Thank you james keep up all this all the work Thank you for that contemporary compendium says james The urologic tribe says how is muhammad the last prophet when one he was never prophesied So to come as such and two in the book of revelation 11 three it is stated that god will send his final two prophets including angels in the final seven years of the world Well was the last part What's in the final seven years? They said Stated that god will send his final two prophets including angels in the final seven years of the world Well, we do believe that the messiah jesus christ is going to return in the final stages of the world That's that's muslim doctrine Jesus will return as the messiah in order to establish god's will on earth. That is islamic belief The claim about muhammad peace be upon him is not prophesied. I disagree He is prophesied within the old testament and there are debates on this that you can watch between muslims and christians Zek zek here has hossain I believe is one who has argued and debated this very effectively that the prophet muhammad salam is prophesied within the bible Going to the uh, hebrew and going to the oldest sources. So This one coming in from do appreciate your question as well This one from spart 34 Four says daniel in your debate with inspiring philosophy you defended men having sex with minors And by that they don't mean gold miners. They say as long as they had their period Why are you now so outraged by another religion condoning sex with minors ap? What are your thoughts as well? Well, I was just pointing out with in this debate the double standard That you have people who are supporting judaism and jewish law But criticize islam when in fact judaism is more extreme in terms of what it permits Between a man and a girl in terms of a three-year-old who has no period has no Is not going through puberty within islam its marriage and the sexual act can only happen after puberty when the When the miner is able to engage in sexual intercourse and as I explained in that debate With inspiring philosophy This is this is the natural thing that human beings do naturally Reproduction is tied to puberty and puberty in girls can happen as young as eight or nine or ten years old And within the secular world within the secular west you have eight nine ten eleven year old Who are extremely sexually promiscuous and active because their bodies biologically are calling them to do that So they engage in all kinds of sexual behavior Sometimes with their teachers in school sometimes with older boys, etc But that is all socially permitted within the secular west islam says that well This needs to be sanctified by marriage. This needs to be protected by marriage But islam provides the solution you just want to argue against islam without addressing the underlying Problem or the underlying issue which is biology and that's universal That's from from taking back even flatter. Wait, wait, wait. It says it's as parent bowls. They asked for my thoughts, too You're right I I have to say, um, I would always like to refer to the very beginning of our of our debate today when we talked about Child marriage and I showed the video of daniel explaining that uh, he would even be okay with four year olds or three year olds Possibly getting married and uh, you know, uh, penetrated. No clearly clearly visible there Did not say I did not say three or four year olds. You played the video where who said four year old who said three year old You actually said four year olds. Um Okay, people who watched the video, uh My thoughts are if there was a big presence of jews around the world jewish apologists who went out there and to, um, Promoted child marriage. I would condemn it and say this is disgusting horrible. Um I can't find it. I can't find a lot of muslim apologists like daniel nikikicchi here who are Insisting that you should be able to have sex with little girls. All right. I showed you the vice article that shows that 50 percent Of these boys within brooklyn are victims of rape As long as they're married it has to do with rabbis who are Sodomizing these little children and that's like this is the the assembly line I think the child rape assembly line. This is what's happening in the jewish community. I don't see you saying anything about that This one coming in from do appreciate your question. Take mekin. Uh flat earth says Jesus solves the war. Thank you for that jewish joshua wooden says propaganda is more than idf and maga. What is the acronym for da wa and good to Job to daniel and your famous What about ism? I don't know what that means But we'll give you a chance to respond. I don't know what so what about ism the debate was about judaism versus islam I actually brought Texts from judaism. I didn't see anything from apostate prophet other than that one hadith And I debunked that in one sentence. So Whereas he hasn't addressed any of these texts except I forced him to say something about child rape. Thank god He was able to condemn that after me pushing him over and over again But the other texts about non-jews not being human about mass rape being allowed within war He didn't have anything to say about that which is very surprising Joshua wouldn't a lot that you started referring to me as AP or apostate prophet or by my name After I said that I would call Muhammad a child molester if I'm just happy that you're not having an anxiety attack right now Good job, man jump to the next one. This one coming in from Do appreciate it. Joshua wooden strikes again says math is not popular one Jewish nation 15 million worldwide 47 islamic nations and 1.6 billion worldwide the jews genocide This math is not mapping They are very bad at it. That's what how is how is relative population Proof that there's not a genocide taking place like this is the stupidest argument I've ever heard But these are very incompetent Like just because you have just because you have two billion muslims. That means you can't genocide muslims You can't ethnically cleanse them. Is that is that the argument? This one coming in from do appreciate your question. Is there jibreel says thank you for Daniel for wearing a palette and kippah in support of the jewish people No, I don't wear that Says every future debate with Daniel needs a live fact checker RS s ID says Daniel you have done we fact checked I fact checked it all on the screen everyone saw all every all the facts were checked I even because I knew that ap would bring this argument I in advance of the debate Prepared a document with all of the citations that I'm making the debate that you can go to fact check it yourself Go and click on all the links to the jewish websites and read all of the citations for yourself I want you to do this. I encourage you to do this do it. So I'm coming in from do appreciate it rs SID says daniel you have a phd in lying Hector says daniel can show his screen. Just make sure he doesn't show his search history. Oh, okay It's like I feel like we're all a bunch of 13 year olds here He's gonna say although I did joke with Daniel. I made a joke at that earlier. So he says it'll probably say Okay, all right. Everyone's robin webster says I condemn the attacks on non combatants and children on both sides Daniel, do you condemn the actions by hamas and any future terrorist attacks in ap? What about you? yeah, so if there was The fact is that hamas Did not order the killing of women children and civilians. They did not order that explicitly the targets were to Only the idf soldiers and to take prisoners of war so if there was Some intentional what do you mean a woman and child? Of course they were what do you mean? If there was if there was an intentional killing Then yeah, I don't condone that that is contrary to islamic law But there's no evidence that that actually took place where hamas says let's go and slaughter These women and children deliberately the ones that are not connected to the military. Let's go slaughter them There is no evidence of this and ap hasn't provided any evidence of that So there's no reason for me to condemn now if in the future Okay, there was any kind of action that violated islamic law Of course as a muslim I would condemn it But what we need to be focusing on is judieism's teachings What it's teachings of killing women children and infants and how that has been taking place for 100 days With over 8,000 children murdered by this israeli terror state Ap has not given a word of condemnation even jokes. He jokes about these dead children On his twitter page. I don't so this is the type of person that ap is he finds genocide and ethnic cleansing funny I can pull up the tweet. That's a lot from my thoughts on it are are I never condoned it. I never liked it. I never joked about it. I I think it is it is terrible I expressed that many times Contrary to diana the kikicius claim there is abundant evidence beyond reasonable doubt that Hamas terrorists targeted and killed women and children And there was even video footage which diana kikic himself must have seen unless he's completely blind If he doesn't if he hadn't hasn't seen it I I'm happy to show him and then they can make his condemnations Yeah, where show me where children were being killed. Okay. I will show me in front I'll show you on twitter because marcos said more children being killed Marcos says james blessing to you brother and all your channel stream. Thank you very much robin westers says daniel How much of israel occupies palestine? How much of israel occupies palestine all of israel is an occupation state? Thank you. See there we have it. This is not just about uh stealing land or expansion It's it's about the existence of israel. That's what the existence of israel is predicated on genocide cleansing the land of palestinians 500 villagers were Or 500 villages were liquidated in the nakba in 1948 Israel is founded upon genocide and ethnic cleansing And that's all from the very beginning And that all started after the palestinian arabes made a clear plan to fight and exterminate the zionists in 1936 1947 1943 and so on where even the palestinian arab leader I mean in hussaini was an ally of adolf hitler and Hitler promised him that they would once they defeat the british and the The communists come in and exterminate all the jews in the arab territories zionists actually collaborated with hitler to transfer German jews to israel so that they could bolster their population and overtake arab lands Yeah, yeah, no to get rid of the jews from germany and transfer them into palestinian land Within palestine. That was the collaboration of zionists with the third rike. And this is a historical historically documented Why because the whole plan of zionism from 1917 and actually before that in the in the 19th century was to establish a jewish state That is demographically majority jewish So that means you have to liquidate the 90 population of palestinians within The palestinian territories in order to create a jewish state and that's why This is like they liquidated 500 villages 500 we just we watched the israeli Soldiers as old men 80 year old men laughing about how they're using flame throwers on palestinian women and children They're laughing and joking about oh, how many children did i kill? Oh, I don't know Like this is these this is the founding of the state of israel. We learned. He's smiling I hate to do this but just because there have been so many we got to go Matthew F says can I can I do a very quick response to this? No, this one from Matthew. I hate to do it, but ap Okay, if it's super fast, I just presented the I present it's a it's a it's a known historical narrative I learned this in high school in germany or even before high school in germany That the nazis initially wanted to deport the jews, which is why they made such collaborations. It's known. That's not a controversy Um, I I just mentioned to him. This is official german documents hitler directly giving I mean, I would say the the palestinian leader the promise to come in and eliminate the jews Of course, I could get you completely ignore that This one coming in from pointless poppy says we have mountains of peer review literature that tells us sleeping with minors is psychologically damaging and all daniel has is quote the kids want it I Give you a chance to respond daniel as I would guess you wouldn't agree with that Well, this is something that has been practiced for the entirety of human history If it's psychologically damaged and all of your ancestors have been psychologically damaged because your grandmother or your great-grandmother Was practicing minor marriage was married off as a minor um, you're if not your great-grandmother then you're uh the next matrilineal link, uh in your family tree So this is like if you're you want to call your entire family tree psychologically disturbed or abused go ahead But this is uh something that has been practiced for the entirety of human history literally and when we actually analyze the psychological literature This is a big challenge that they have. How can we consider minor marriage to be psychologically damaging? When we go to these societies that are practicing it. We don't see Mental dysfunction. We don't see depression. We don't see any kind of problems. It's only within societies where it's taboo It's socially taboo Then we we find victims of sexual abuse like diddling a little kid in the closet which happens Throughout the the the western world in public schools and especially in synagogues apparently This is something that is this is something that Yeah, you'll find psychological damage because it's sexual abuse. It's not the same as marriage Then this one coming in from is a career says if we critique Judaism, do we also critique Islam? yes No, the standards of critique are not the same your standard of critique for Islam is One thing your standard of critique for Judaism is a is something completely different This one coming in from double standard of A a p a p and a p himself that the question was a Muslim by the way, so Joshua wooden says genocide is bad Daniel. What about Nigerian Christmas massacre end of 2023? What say you ha kikachu? I haven't heard of this Nigerian Christmas mass, of course you haven't heard you you haven't heard about what's going on in Nigeria for decades or in Sudan for example This one from love thy neighbor Daniel always does this Justifying the violence of Islam because others have committed violence as well. This is no argument in favor of Islam or Hamas um I refer to the Jewish texts the the violence is is um There in those texts like these horrifying texts that I read that's that's the violent stuff that you won't find in Islam There's no analogy between Judaism and Islam. We don't have a doctrine of raping three-year-olds on the battlefield We don't have a doctrine of Non-Muslims being non-humans. That's all in Judaism. Find me the analog within Islam There is none You got it this one coming in from do appreciate your question as well stupid beta says didn't colonel naf erez In israeli reserve pilot described the israeli army's response to the events of october 7th as quote A mass Hannibal event avi rozenfeld Called in an airstrike on his own position So, um, that's exactly the dealing with the very specific thing that daniel Tried to cite but then completely failed because he didn't get it. Um, yes, there was a response from From the from the idf operatives that In response to the attacks on october 7th On the border as it was happening There was massive fire on hamas vehicles. So vehicles driven by hamas into Gaza and out of Gaza to cause as much destruction as possible with the aim of preventing anyone from coming in and And and and stopping it from escalation because it was a shock to everyone that there are thousands of Hamas and Gaza civilians by the way inside israel reeking havoc and The authorities didn't really know what to do with it. So they did the article described that We made some difficult choices such as firing where we thought It could hit abductees, but this is talking about again is that Vehicles at the border and there was also an incident where they were fighting at a kibbutz Which was vastly taken over by hamas and they did fire at it and they may have killed Some israeli civilians in the process that is that is recorded. It is true. I can't deny that But these are instances which are described as you know Where there is an overwhelming hamas presence where they use force at all costs to stop it from From from escalating. There is no evidence of them firing into The civilian israeli population that is complete nonsense. And this is also by the way Daniel earlier shit that's hard that haritz report Which cites the police as saying that that a helicopter targeted people at the nova music festival The police the very same day came out and said this is a false report. We never made such a statement So yeah haritz has retracted the article. It's still up. Well, that's up to haritz This one coming in from do appreciate your question billionaire mindset says apis Think we are blind right the heavy Okay, the heavy apis if you want to respond you can I gotta give you a chance to address your new nickname here It was funny. Okay. Thank you. This is one from the heavy haritz show says muslim countries rejected every option for peace I don't know. That's not historically factual the entire Project of zionism is to displace the 90 percent palestinian population from From palestine. That was their plan from the 19th century and they executed that plan in 1948 with an akba With this extermination and displacement of palestinians So where was the prospect of peace there? It was a aggression from The zionists from the very beginning through forced demographic displacement like imagine if japan sent settlers into the united states And they started to expand and they had a project. Okay. We don't have enough land in japan We want to take over the united states. So let's send all these japanese to I don't know Washington dc and start taking over more and more territory use all kinds of deceptive And predatory practices and use a foreign power like imagine the british are helping The japanese take over washington dc and push out the people who are living there And then they have a plan that they've written up from 50 years earlier To actually turn the united states into a japanese state and then when the people of america fight back you say Oh, this is terrorism. You are committing terrorism. This is a civil war Oh, we have to defend ourselves and the japanese then start carpet bombing different united states cities Um and killing the refugees that have been displaced. This is an analogy for what happened This is the history the 75 year history Of israel and what they've done to the palestinian people. Almost that actually happens. Yeah, all of it happened the british assisted the israelis the the british assisted with the jewish settlers and in Killing and displacing the palestinians. This is all document such a horrible summary of the history I'm not i'm not surprised that you don't want to discuss that and want to focus on i am discussing it right now Okay, debate with me the history of the conflict and instead of this was the debate This was the debate. No, no, it wasn't this was about religion But which you insisted on because you would reject because a religion is a big part of it No, the religion is an essential part of it. It is but you have you have no use are guided by the talmud You have no clue about the history of that. Okay. Yeah, sure. Joshua wooden says daniel says islamic Tolerance his friend who sounds like far four people will convert to islam because of our intolerance Who is right? Yeah far four. Who's far four? I don't know That's that's a that's a cartoon. Uh, that's a children's uh tv character from The gazon tv alexa tv which tells Kids that everything is to blame on the jews and stuff. It's a funny character from a billionaire mindset says Apis is trembling. Okay. Let's see yashua the king says al haydaya volume To page 144 says slaying of the women and infant children Of infidels is forbidden if a person were to slay such Is not liable to a fine Yeah, if it's collateral damage, but if someone is going and deliberately killing women and children, this is Uh contrary to islamic law and they're liable for punishment This one from yashua the king as well says reliance of the traveler section zero nine Point one zero says it is not permissible in jihad to kill women or children unless they were fighting against the muslims Yeah, so if they are a threat and they're taking up like a gun and shooting at the muslims, then they become a legitimate target You go that's that's every every legal system has that american legal system has that International law allows that. Oh, so if it's not just this if a if a gazon picks up, um, you know, um, I don't know Uh, bottles bottles knives rocks and attacks Soldiers for example, then it's okay for for israel to shoot it. No because it's not a credible threat I mean for for the diaper force it is like diaper force in israel are scared Crapless by children like a little five-year-old with a rock and so they machine gun the palestinian five-year-old Oh, he threw a rock at me. He threw a rock at my tank. Therefore. I'm gonna blow him away That's like the israeli logic, but for normal people. It's so funny for normal human beings You don't shoot a five-year-old because he throws a rock It's it's so funny that you all disagree. You disagree No, I agree. I agree. Okay. We're we're agreed. Everyone agrees. It's just the israelis that don't agree nuann wolders I didn't see your question if you had one that you wanted to attach to that super chat Let me know you call your gerovic says there were no cannons yet at the hands of seven Century muslims for the excuse of collateral damage Yeah, there are no hand cannons or cannons No, but there was a man Menjaneel, so it's a kind of primitive um catapult What Romans forces to manganin right in there and to to to kill left and right the excuse that technology that technology is That the excuse there is that it was night and they couldn't make out the prophet knew about Yeah, so the prophet knew about the manjaneel the this catapult like weapon that throws Projectiles and can inadvertently kill non-combatants that was known to the prophet peace be upon him and to the muslim So this is why the legal texts Within islam they acknowledge that collateral damage is possible But deliberately targeting women and children is is not that's an ic jesus That's not what the text is about the the text is about the question They're asked to mohammed is about the night raids where they go in with with horses and Or camels sorry and and Kill women and children because they can't differentiate them from them This one having a problem of the collateral damage You appreciate your question matters now says 2000 watching a very visible debate. I love jewish people. Thank you very much for that and folks I don't want to go into it now. We got to keep going with questions But thank you ng nbgs tv says question for daniel where israeli women sexually abused by hamas and other jihadis on 10 7 and while still in captivity There's no confirmed evidence of this as as stated by haritz that there's no forensic evidence There is just eyewitness testimony eyewitnesses claim that there was mass rape that their women were beheaded But the israeli government has acknowledged that there's no forensic evidence that shows Women have been being beheaded. There is no evidence of this They claim that there was rape that has taken place on the basis of this eyewitness testimony There's a few there's only like a handful of eyewitnesses That there was mass rape, but there's actually no forensic evidence and within haritz You can go to their report that said there is no forensic evidence and it's impossible to ever have forensic evidence That establishes that rape took place. Why because we dispose of the bodies and we destroyed all the evidence That's what they that's what the israeli government. That's not what they actually claims All of all of the evidence that they have is just based on eyewitness testimony Eyewitnesses that are constantly changing their testimony. That's a lie. Everyone can confirm that this is a lie Everyone can can see In the new york times report, uh, you can see it in the israeli times report You can see it you can see it everywhere even the new york times are using these eyewitnesses Even the haritz report says that that what is missing at the moment is the the forensic evidence because it played no priority in collecting Over a thousand bodies and finding bodies everywhere injured and alive and analyzing Them in the in the most immediate forensic analysis. What they do have is a rescue teams first responders soldiers security forces witness testimonies and even photos of remains confirm that Beyond reasonable doubt multiple instances of rape and otherwise sexual harassment took place We even have a photo of a woman who was burned with her underwear removed on the ground after she was raped Yeah, there's no actual evidence of the supposed rape that took place. You would think that for These areas that the attacks took place that are covered with cctv cameras. You would think given on the border of Gaza, there's no video evidence of these supposed rapes the underwear being removed. There's no How do you know it was removed? How do you know that wasn't burned off? This is just a charred corpse and you based on that you're saying. Oh, this was a rape. I've seen it. This is This is a corpse, right? Have you seen it? I haven't seen any rape. No, I haven't seen any rape There's a charred corpse. Have you seen that charred corpse? I have not seen it. I've seen it described This one coming in from yeah, but your description of it is not objective Your objective of it is that the underwear was removed. How do you know it was removed by a person? It is it is confirmed is pretty much how where what's the proof that's been removed by a person She has no pants on she has her whatever she has on on is lifted and she has no underwear There is no trace of underwear at all. Okay. So the underwear was not removed. So you just so your your own story keeps changing You said that the underwear was removed But then you say there was no trace of underwear So how do you know there was underwear in the first place? Oh my this is all this is all nonsense There's an image she's not wearing a body that is in a state of undress Yeah, when you're blown away by a hellfire missile Your your clothes are not going to be on you in the same way that you are in the normal state to take that and say Oh, this is proof This is proof of rape mass rape that has taken place. This is a joke like the international and now you're going back To the to the conspiracy theory You have failed you and the international the international community acknowledges You just have to jump no international community acknowledges Everyone knows it this one from jack johnson is really being tried in the hay Gentlemen, you've got to go to the next one. They say please Idea We saw the idea Jack johnson says please ask a costate prophet says about the blood Sucking circumcision rituals orthodox jewish rabbis performed since he has bent on calling muslims Comos what are comos or is that chomo? Is that a bad word? I don't know. I'm not down with youth lingo if if that If that if that if that super chat is implying that I make such criticism about Islam where I for example talk about Muhammad Sucking the tongues of his of his grandsons and things like that. I I usually don't do that I don't I usually don't engage in that kind of stuff So the question was about the jewish ritual do you condemn it? Have you not just Heard james read the super chat in the context where it mentions that I do something about Islam like that apparently which is why there is a hypocrisy being called out No, I don't do that and when it comes to the to the jewish Version of that I'm not entirely familiar with it. I don't have anything to say about the jewish There is no islamic version of this. It's a jewish ritual Where at the baby the jewish baby is Why are you in the super chat that's just asked me? Yeah, you condemn that and I said you don't know anything about it. So I'm describing it to you I'm helping you out Just asked me what I think about that considering that I make such things about islam And I just clarify that I don't do such things about islam Which and I also don't have any thoughts on the on the jewish part. That was the question and I answered it Why are you do criticize islam? You do criticize Not based on such things. No, I don't In your own answer you said that oh the prophet, uh, sucked the tongue This one from that's what you said, right? You take that as a Is that criticism of islam or not? It's not criticism. I said I don't do any criticism based on that But what do you think about the jewish practice of of a rabbi sucking the penis of a boy that he's just circumcised I just answered the question. You don't have opinion about it. That's what you said I don't know much about it It's a it's a rabbi sucking the penis of a baby We have to go to the next question If this channel isn't here tomorrow folks, you know why okay, we got to go to the next question Can you let me answer the damn question instead of yelling at me? I would condemn it if it was If if it was something extremely weird, I find it very I find it very strange the way it is described I don't know enough about it to comment on it And I clarify that I also usually don't talk about islam in such a sense at all So it shouldn't be expected of me to be consistent and criticize You don't you've never talked about circumcision in islam. I talk about circumcision. It's uh, how it's uh, how it's illogical Okay, so you do criticize circumcision is in islam. Why don't you have an opinion on circumcision and Judaism? Okay, I criticize killing in islam. Therefore I should have an opinion on all kinds of killing. Yeah, you should you should be consistent You should you claim to be defending Judaism in this debate, but you haven't defended Judaism at all Yes, so what that's a double standard that the super chat is pointing out That's not what they say all ghazali It's not about Judaism gentlemen They say all ghazali kitab all wiggaz Fasik says one may use a catapult against them when they are in a fortress even if among them are women and children And that's why I refer to you Unknown killer 67 says ap you didn't read hash sphere hadith. So you are fabricating the Quran fabricates You and debate hijab face to face stop using Your wife as an excuse not to do so I don't understand yazar gibreels is daniel. How do rabbis decide what Jewish law is? Do they just open the tall mid grab a verse and command to their followers? According to daniel, he could she yes. No, no, I didn't say that they the rabbis based Jewish law on a long tradition over 2000 year tradition of analysis of the Talmud the tenaim And other early Jewish texts And then they there are authoritative texts that have resolved many of the early debates that happened a thousand years after the Or or rather 500 years after the canonization of the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud So Jewish law is a very sophisticated thing I cited many Jewish texts in order to give a representative sample of what Jewish law actually teaches and I connected those Jewish teachings with the present day statements of Israel Israeli government officials and the idf That is the line that I drew very clearly from Jewish religious law to Israel that connection was not made by ap connecting Islam to Any supposed crimes that have been committed by the Palestinians. That's the difference between me and him in this debate the question has a very simple question actually which is um Do Jewish scholars open up the Talmud today and say it says here this should be done Therefore, yeah, sometimes they do sometimes they do yeah sometimes they do that's not mostly what they do because that's not what the Talmud is That's one that sometimes they do do forward Craig Hutchinson says there is only one god and that is Allah Robin Webster says daniel do you support a peaceful solution at Palestine statehood and condemn all future attacks against israel after agreement is reached I support a just solution. I support justice I support the right of return of Palestinians to the land that was taken From them through genocide and ethnic cleansing. That's why I support Yeah, I support justice. I support justice. There's no peace. There's no peace without justice They said ap I want to hear your chance. They said they want to hear from you ap as well That's what that was not the question. The question was uh, Palestinian state state. What wasn't it? They was so okay, would daniel would you accept a two-state solution? A peaceful two-state solution. No, I I support justice the right of the return of the palestinians to the land That was stolen from them by the british and the european jews the european jewish scientist That's what I support and they also said ap they want to hear from you on that question Um, I think I would if it worked out I would totally I would support a two-state solution if it were possible If a good solution was to be found at this point. I don't believe it is really possible This one from robin got that one. Love thy neighbor says there are more than five million people in the gaza. Where is the genocide? There aren't five million people in gaza That's less than two million people and they are being forcefully expelled from northern gaza They've already been expelled from northern gaza and now they're being expelled from gaza in its entirety. That's what israel is pushing for for these palestinians and in gaza to be relocated to Egypt or to jordan Meanwhile in the west bank where there is no hamas israeli settlers continue to steal land continue to push out and kill palestinians in mass within the west bank and the united states policy Is completely against this and the un is against this because it's illegal according to international law For israel to be taking the west bank and using settlers with guns to inch away the palestinian Land and basically ethnically cleanse them. So that's that's the reality. It's also I hate to do this, but we just have this one from joshua wooden says go Googling philosophy is a slander of michael jones that has read more books than everyone watching this has collectively read in our lives Including daniel hukicchu This one from newan walters says thanks to ap googling philosophy is basically the next memonides. You gotta we gotta have to go to the next one Newan walters says thanks to ap and funny to tune in after 96 minutes and just by now Finally realizing the answer to the question of the debate D h is wearing it I don't understand How are you wearing the answer natural born swabian says ap doctor of sophistry and deception and then Player one says wait, which one? Okay, this one from Player one says question for daniel. How long will you wait to share edited clips of this debate? Will you avoid sharing it completely again? When have I avoided sharing clips of a debate all my debates are publicly accessible on my channel this debate I don't know if it can be on my channel may hopefully clips But there's only one religion that you can't openly debate on youtube And or twitch apparently so you can talk about islam You can look at islamic religious sources. You can call muslims pedophiles You can call muslims terrorists. No problem You can have an entire career on youtube based on that and not even be demonetized But if you have one debate about this one particular religion, then they have to shut it down. It's unfortunate It's true. Unfortunately on youtube on youtube as you can see it's impossible to debate Judaism Yeah, exactly exactly exactly as we are doing right now. Yeah terrible This one coming in from es 1002 says daniel mike jones refuted your 3k idf dead claim The mike jones refuted what your claim that there were 3 000 idf dead Yeah, I mean i'm not committed to that number if it's not 3000 it's 2000 whatever it doesn't matter This one from king joseph of judas says karan one two and 57 Two and three 189 mentioned a la is the lord of the world and has dominion over But karan 1940 says a la will inherit the earth. How can someone inherit what they already own? Yeah, it's it's called metaphorical language. So inheriting the earth means That's ultimately everything returns back to god who is the owner of the universe. He's the owner and creator There's nothing contradictory about those two statements This one coming in from x muslim testimony says no islam and Kno w no islam as if you are familiar with it then no islam and then They say no islam No, if you're putting in a super chat once you want it to be grammatically correct Like you're paying good money for the chat to be read This one from joshel wooden says nice drip james. What does that mean? Is that's what do you guys? Is that one of your out people? That's the new language for yeah And uh, adison weir says can ap respond to what daniel said in his closing Oh Which what are you talking about? I only made a note of two things which is uh The haritz article I can say that. Um, so what daniel I think it brought up the a haritz article according to which, um, uh a security Officer said that there was a helicopter fire which may have impacted Israeli citizens, but they um said this is an anonymous source The very same day the times of israel published an article from the police saying that this is completely false and condemned haritz for reporting fake news So there is no report. There is no witness report of people actually describing a helicopter shooting at people The other thing that I noted was him saying that uh that it is confirmed that israel sterilizes ethiopians And that is just terrible um Terrible and I don't know terribly intentioned research by daniel is it true or not because because is it true or not? Okay, let me answer the questions for me because uh, the very same reporting goes to international organizing organizations Analyzing that claim and coming to the conclusion that it was a misunderstanding and was widely overblown So it's it's actually concluded to be factually false It's not it's not false. They were giving contraceptives and sterilized without their consent It is it's not false. It is false because the the initial report was that this is an Israeli policy Which is why it spread the final uh finding was that there was an instance where something like that took place And which was uh condemned and stopped and this isn't this is not an israel thing This was an instance of something happening and being overblown and blown out of proportion No, it's it's with the israeli health ministry. You can go to the guardian article. I can show the screen right now All let me let me let me I didn't say all jews sterilize ethiopians. That's I know I'm being sorry I'm being sarcastic right now to hear what you do all the time people can see for themselves Yeah, and you can also have a follow-up report on that very on that very report you I can also yeah, it happened Yeah, of course, they're going to do damage control after it's reported in the guardian Oh, so you believe you're saying that oh, they explained afterwards that oh, this was Oh a terrible tragedy which other what other country sterilizes black people that that's not what I said happened Yeah, that is what you just said that happened. That's that's not what I said happened I said it was blown out of proportion massively How can you blow out of it was portion the sterilizing of black people? It was assessed and turned out to be on our proportion the the what's false about it. There's no your logic is Your logic is it is it is false But you know how did you find that article somebody shared it with you google it right now and you will see articles saying that uh Assessment came to the conclusion that it is not true and it was blown out of proportion Your your idea here is I can make a claim and if it's analyzed And a research comes to the conclusion or a study comes to the conclusion that it's false Then that means it's damage control. What kind of logic is this? Yeah, this one coming in from do appreciate it. My name is Sean says rid van eat the Quran next time he calls you a slur Player one says referencing surah al-baqarah 242 is misleading misrepresenting or omitting information not considered lying in islam Apparently not This one from only goes that's referring to Only goes says daniel. Did you grow up on? Al-Aqsa tv. I don't know what that is. My name is Sean says question to daniel. Why can't you grow? He has a nice beard tanzer of the lake says daniel didn't your prophet kill civilians Not intentionally. Yes. Yes, you did Harold valder says only civilians that Committed crimes is that what you're referring to criminals? Yeah, you mean collective punishment. He did. Yeah, yeah Harold valder says collective punishment to The jewish tribes collective punishment. He did for example those tribes were involved with Trying to exterminate muslims so collective punishment. So there is a there is a plot Supposedly that they were planning something against the muslims And what's the result of this going there and punishing the entire tribe? The entire tribe wasn't involved the entire tribe wasn't even Killed it was only the males above above puberty that those were the ones were killed. Well, that that solves it Punishments from crime. Yeah Harold balder says daniel. Brother daniel. What's your view on this verse? The messenger of Allah said the eyes are the leather strap of the anus. So one who sleeps should perform Ablution, I don't know what that means. You say sanan abi dowad 203 book one is like Yeah, this is like a ridiculous translation. The idea is that it's not when you sleep when you sleep There is a chance that you pass wind and when you pass wind you have to Redo your ritual ablution before you pray. So this is about purity. It's not this ridiculous thing when you sleep You are likely to pass wind and therefore you have to redo your ablution before prayer Like the fact that we ap wants to make a big deal about this and laugh about it I'm not making a big deal about it. No video about yeah, you are making you're laughing You have videos with david laughing about this You have nothing to say when you're presented with the talent I'm glad you're watching our lives non-jews. Non-jews are not human. You have nothing to say about that But you have a problem with Redoing ritual ablution after passing wind like if this is like so hilarious the double It's very nice that you're watching our live streams, but I'm not making a big deal out of this I'm just laughing about how the narrative is is is told. That's it. This one from the Arabic. That's the problem Lou sassel says ap. Why are you being slippery? FAMO says google dancing israelis on 9 11 San mourn says sun mourn says I was led to believe there would be punch and pie Sheba c says a wise person once said better to let people think you're stupid than to open your mouth and prove it Congrats on the only thing you were able to prove today daniel. Wow By way james, I only have like five minutes Okay, well then let me just try to jump to a certain there were no dancing israelis on 9 11 Folks if we don't get your question fbi, forgive me Uh, this one from jai g8 ones is why are we debating this jews and muslims believe in the same god for the love of your god? Please stop this war Because unfortunately islam preaches that jews are terrible and that they shall be that they will be eventually exterminated No, judeism teaches that non-jews are Subhumans that they're animals and they should be genocided or raped and then genocided Yeah, we established how the mishnah Torah says it how the Shulchan Aruch says it how the Talmud says it we've established all that This one from israel advocacy movement says daniel. There's almost two million words in the Talmud You've clearly not even read point zero one percent of it. Why are you dodging the debate? Why are you dodging israel advocacy? I challenged you to debate and you've dodged it on what judeism says about jesus christ and about christians Why are you dodging my debate israel advocacy? Are you scared to debate what the Talmud and what judeism says about christianity and jesus christ and the virgin mary? Why are you scared to debate me? Stop cowering in a tunnel and come out and debate me on this This one coming there's a difference. So basically what they were saying was I have to say there's a million hold on one sec. I do want to just finish their question They say they say almost two million words in the Talmud. You've clearly not even read Point zero one percent of it. So should you really be talking as an authority on its teachings after watching a couple of tiktok videos? Yeah, no, I cited everyone saw the Talmud on the screen Everyone saw the mishnah Torah on the screen. I brought it up Everyone saw these authoritative jewish references on the screen So you have a lot of explaining to do israel advocacy number one Stop running away from the debate. Why don't you man up? And debate me on what judeism says about christianity and then we'll take a deep dive Into the Talmud the thing is yeah, maybe I haven't I've only read point one percent of the Talmud. I've read enough I've read enough this one from I have to say it. So today today was a fantastic demonstration I usually don't say this. I usually don't approach debates this way, but I know that this is Daniel approaches it today's debate is is a demonstration of Daniel the kikachu being completely Demolished and exposed. Oh, yeah, so if you do say so yourself, it's it's probably I don't I mean It was a victory for you that just by not having an anxiety attack. That's like W you didn't heal over 10 seconds I want to give each of you guys maybe like one or two sentences gie G8 one said they didn't feel like their question is actually addressed They said why are we debating this like in two sentences? Let's say you just addressing this question of like why are we debating this today? Just one two sentences each of you starting with we'll go left to right ap going first Uh, my debate was actually going to be about uh, dana kikachu. Why are we debating this? That's it. Why are we debating? I'm answering the question You're talking about what you wanted to debate. No, no, no, we're we're no I'm answering we are debating this very specific thing because this is what dana kikachu insisted on When I actually wanted to discuss the many lies he was spreading about this whole The conflict great daniel. Why are we debating this without attacking ap answer? Please? We're debating this because religion affects the world and we have to understand what different religions teach their followers What happened what's happening in israel is determined to in large extent by the teachings of judaism So what are the teachings of judaism? My purpose for this debate was to explain the teachings of judaism that relate to that's a lot of two sentences Wait, this one king joseph of juda says daniel. How can he claim israel is apartheid? Two million Arabs live in israel how many jews in muslim countries since 1948 99 of jews have fled from muslim countries Also, zakir hassein did terrible. I don't know who that is I agree Yeah, so just because they have a large number of arab Israelis or arabs in israel that doesn't mean there's not a apartheid states South africa south africa is overwhelmingly african black african. That doesn't mean there wasn't an apartheid south africa Yeah, but that was your logic about jews and muslim lands. So you're refuting yourself by that No, no I my argument was based on the actual teachings of islam and what islam allows for the minority religious population According to akam ahl o dhimma and you said israel is based on it on talmud. Yeah, exactly You can't follow an argument. That's why you see how you're confused This one fused about the arguments that i'm making if we look at what the talmud says about what to do to Gentiles or non-jews that's very different than what islam teaches about what muslim should do to jews or christians or other religions Yeah, this one's coming in from do appreciate it just a few more and bg stv says please explain holding a nine month old baby hostage You mean in israeli dungeons I mean the 6 000 Palestinians that are talking about babies kept as hostages by hamas answer the question I don't know what this report is. There's nine month old Yeah, there's an actual baby. You should probably be aware of this that just turned one years old And there are other babies that were taken as captives. Let's just pray that israel doesn't bomb that baby according to the Hannibal directive that you admit they used against their own population. You see this is the response This is the response you get. Yeah, look at how many how many prisoners of war israeli prisoners of war have been killed by the IDF. It's shocking. They have no regard for their own people So they're just blowing them away. The question is what what about that baby taking baby captives like what about israel? What about let's ask the audience is that nine month old safer with hamas or with the idf? Threatened sanity says daniel said it's quote okay Daniel said quote it's okay to marry a five-year-old if they show signs Physical maturity unquote. Can you show or read what is Specifically considered as a quote sign of maturity for islam and who is responsible to judge Yeah, it's puberty that people who are assigned to judge are the parents who have the best Interest of the child at heart That's what islamic law says The standard within american schools is you send your kid to First grade starts dating god knows when maybe at six seven years old and starts promiscuous sex That's completely legal and allowed and normal within american society Americans don't bat an eye at that So in other words if the parents allow it, then what's your problem with it? This is the standard within judaism within Premodern christianity within Hinduism within all of these other religions and it's based on biology again I've explained this so many times all that people can argue against me is Oh, you're pedophile like that's the extent of the argument. Okay. Yeah, we've heard it 500 million times. It doesn't matter FAMO says according to robert clifton robinson the majority of school Scooters are depressed atheists ap since you're a depressed atheist. Why do you condemn this? What why do I condemn this? I don't I don't know is that the question I think they're I don't know if it's that's the question. They said since you claim israel is this utopia I dare you to make a visit. They're opposing as a palestinian muslim and see how they treat you for no reason a plus as a palestinian, how do you uh, palestinians have been working employed Many of them in israel forever Including goss and palestinians by the way crossing the border every day and go there to work So this is a very interesting. They have to go through like a checkpoint where they're Humiliated sometimes they're shot. Sometimes they're taken into dungeons. They have to go through checkpoint after checkpoint There are specific streets that are israeli only and arab only So if you're arab and you're trying to get to work you can't drive on certain streets because they're israeli only That's the apartheid system that has been implemented within israel in this supposed democracy Without fact checking this let's assume that you are right Your your response to the dimmy system where jews and christians are treated as secondary citizen With very big oppressions and double standards by the way was well, it's better than getting killed I don't know. There's a very critical difference between the dimmy system and the uh apartheid system of israel A apartheid system of israel is racial it is on the basis of being an arab Whereas in islam you can convert to islam and you don't have to have any kind of Second-class treatment you convert and it doesn't matter what race you are But the jewish system is racial if you are not a jew you are subhuman and you are uh You are not given the same rights. You don't have the right. You don't have the rights of property You can be defrauded according if you're saying israeli arabs are oppressed and don't have the same rights Uh, they're oppressed racially. Yeah, and they don't have a right to israeli arabs. Yeah, wow, man This is why there's all every year every year. There are arab israelis who are killed And the settlers who kill them or the israelis who kill them the jews who kill them are not prosecuted Why because a jew is never prosecuted one of the most pro-zionists one of the most pro-zionist loyal group in israel is the arab jews community Yeah, we can talk to them about how they're treated read israel shahak read these jewish historians read ilan pop Read what they say about the treatment of uh palestinians and arabs in israel It is dehumanizing they're treated like they don't have any life There was a child who was burnt in a house that settlers set on fire A palestinian two-year-old was burned to a crisp and you have israelis singing about oh, we barbecued ali His this child's name was ali and they're talking about. Oh, we barbecued him those israelis were not Uh prosecuted they were uh not prosecuted for that crime of burning down a palestinian home and uh Murdering this two-year-old and then singing about it and celebrating it This is something that is Characterizing israeli culture and it is based on this belief that non jews are not human But the non jews are not i have to do this to do with the point Fimo Fimo says apus honey, how are you claiming to see these non-existent hamas? Great videos, but seem to ignore the endless videos showing babies blown up by the idf I'm sorry. Um, what exactly is the logic here is the logic? Um Yes hamas terrorists went in there and they did uh, they did kill and targeted massacre civilians They bragged about it. They loved it. They paraded it. They cheered for it They said they will do it again and again and again while the leaders said we will uh cleanse the land of the filth of the jews But i'm not supposed to point that out and not supposed to be angered and upset and sad about that Because when israel responded after a declaration of war and multiple warnings during the bombings, which uh hamas says, uh, they have no obligation to protect their civilians because during the bombings civilians died That means You know all of that just goes away. I shouldn't be talking about it. What kind of logic is this Take the question. You again. Daniel K. K. James self says here that it's collateral damage and collateral damage is acceptable I'm I I will tell you right now after what, uh, palestinian terrorist organizations do If during the response after a declaration of war there is collateral damage And people die as a result of that and that is then paraded as atrocity propaganda Because they like to keep their civilian population in the middle of the war zone which they create then i don't care Take take he says question for both should libs and conservatives switch sides on israel slash palestine Yeah, no one should side with israel israel is a genocidal state It doesn't matter if you're on the left or the right this myth that it all started on october 7 Uh raza has been an open air concentration camp Uh for since 2006 israel has blockaded Uh raza has prevented any kind of Mobility in or out of raza has blocked Actual aid coming into raza has limited their water their electricity their food their medical supplies This is an open air concentration camp. Of course palestinians are gonna fight back Of course palestinians are gonna defend themselves you as a supporter of israeli genocide call palestinians fighting back as terrorists That is your propaganda. That is your Israeli has para propaganda and the entire world sees right through it People know when they see all of these children being blown away by these 2000 pound or these 200 pound bombs or 2000 pound bombs Given to them by youth the us dropped on these apartment buildings these civilian areas and they see these images of entire swaths of raza Completely obliterated every rational person knows that this is a genocide. This is ethnic cleansing And that's why the majority of the world opposes israel you have even the japanese even the chinese even brazilians are having protests against israel The explanation that israelis have and that you have is that oh these are all anti-semites No, these are people of conscious who see the brutality who see the genocide who see these suffering children Over 8 000 being killed and they recognize that israel is a terrorist state and the palestinians have a right to resist that occupation and that genocide The majority of the world actually Himel says according to the world persecution index christians are killed by muslims not by not by jews I'm not aware of that statistic This one coming in from do appreciate your question as well joshua wooden says AP missed moment daniel it was dark and they could not see ap should have said i like like the moon had split This is why colds are bad Yeah, i understand what that means Adam sidique says ap if you ever if you and your family hypothetically lived in gaza and israel thought there may be A hamas member in your house and bombed it would that be okay with you or nah? No, it wouldn't be and i would probably hate it and i would probably um feel Angered by it and i would probably be very much against israel and maybe i would end up as As being as being one of those people who believe israel is oppressing us From the river to the sea and so on the issue is Where you are born and where you live affects very much how you think and how you view things I acknowledge that completely and i think from the palestinian Gazan perspective what How israel is responding and handling things will be received will be perceived as grave injustice And i acknowledged that too i get it i understand it But when i look at the entire conflict in its in its history I only see that the current state as it is is not a result of You know oppression or hate or whatever it is by the zionist side It is the mess that we are in as a result of the palestinian eric aggression This one from mohammed says perspective. It's not a perspectival thing like you have objective authorities In the un a human rights watch amnesty international objective people who are not israeli or palestinian who say that what's happening is a genocide Ethnic cleansing apartheid racial apartheid. This is not something about perspective. It's something that people can see uh very objectively Daniel you are very you're very easy to cite these organizations when it comes to confirming something that That one that fits your narrative. By the way, no authoritative I'm just appealing to a standard that everyone here actually actually verified that this is a genocide because High numbers of deaths not is not necessarily genocide But you completely ignore these organizations when they like the united nations Acknowledge that there is abundant undeniable evidence of rape and sexual assault by hamas on october 7th and they condemn it and they also acknowledge israel's right. No one has confirmed that no one has confirmed that and Yes, yes, they have even the no secretary of the united states has confirmed the united nations has confirmed on there Honestly, he hasn't confirmed. He said it has to be investigated. They say that has to be something investigated There is no there is no confirmation because israel has said that they there is no proof The forensic evidence does not exist. All of it is based on eyewitness testimony from these biased IDF reservists This is coming in front of zaka international is the relief organization zaka who's founded by a pedophile That organization has been releasing all of these claims about 40 beheaded babies debunked all these claims about the tunnels under hospitals debunked all of these things have been debunked The un hasn't said yes, these rapes took place Show me where they've said confirmed We have evidence and proof that hamas raped israelis on october 7th. Okay, if if the united nations did say that and condemned it will you Will you accept that and acknowledge that you're being hypocritical? I'll accept that if they that they said it That I want to see what actually then what's the point? I want to see what the proof is Yeah, then what's the point you are going to be hypocritical anyway So no, no i'm the the testimony of the un that israel is a apartheid state is based on facts many facts I'm not just saying oh the un said it and the fact that hamas raped israelis is also based on facts Stop stalling show me the proof if you if you where did the un say show me the proof If it doesn't the un say that there's proof that they have committed mass Knowledge that you're going to dismiss it anyway. Even though I didn't say that This one coming in from famo says all israel has to do is claim That hamas is in a school to justify bombing it imagine if the usa responded this way one a depressed atheist blanks a school um Blank yeah, it's such a stupid this whole human shields argument is so stupid like if you have Like a terrorist who is taking a child hostage Um and and using a hostage a child as a human shield Who thinks it's acceptable to just blow away the child? That's israel's argument like oh hamas is using human shields. So therefore we're justified in blowing them all away So this is so morally backwards and disgusting yet israel is so blind and these zionists are so blind to this The moral depravity of this argument like oh hamas is using human shields. Therefore. We're justified in carpet bombing them Like okay fine even assuming let's assume that hamas is using human shields for the sake of argument They actually therefore it's justified therefore It's justified to blow the civilians away to bomb them and to murder them like how is that justified? This is so funny. This isn't uh An acknowledged fact that hamas does indeed do that and whenever daniel presents a thing that he himself doesn't want to outright agree with He's like let's assume it is true This one coming out. Where's the proof of that? You we're still waiting for the proof that the un says that it's proved that hamas engaged in mass rape Where's the proof? You just told we're waiting. We're waiting. You just you just told me even if they said that No, I just told me even if they said that you would just acknowledge that they said it and would still not Let go of your hypocrisy. What's the no I have to look at what the claim is based on This one coming in from do appreciate your question. Irviel Ya gudeev says the land was never quote unquote palestine. It was ottoman british whatever What do you base your claim for the land on? Yeah, there are different ruling authorities, but ethnically palestinians were living on that land. Yeah, there are different ruling authorities The british were ruling authority as well. That doesn't mean that they weren't palestinian. They were ethnically palestinian And then that was demographically changed by the expulsion of palestinians by force and through the liquidation of over 500 Villages and they use they come to be known as bombs. They use these bullets. They use bombs. They use uh Flamethrowers. This is the history of israel. It's the forced ex expulsion of palestinians It doesn't matter what you call them. They can you can call them arab You can call them palestinian. The point is that they were ethnically cleansed based on their ethnicity This is the fact that you you cannot actually address No, don't ask me anything. I have to go. I have to go There never was such a there never was such an ethnicity We'll let daniel go. Well, it's israelis who don't agree to DNA testing The israelis don't agree to DNA testing because it'll show that they're all from europe And they don't have any kind of genetic literally connection to the middle east. You can literally this is the israeli policy You can palestinians are more than willing to all of these DNA testings can be done On palestinians because they have nothing to hide it or from that region literally they've been in that region for generations You can order kids from amazon Israelis have made it illegal as false or testing of the israeli people. That's false. You can literally order test kits from amazon to israel So that that proves not illegal No, no illegal. That's illegal. The israeli government does not allow representative testing of their population on a DNA level No, what they what what they what they make illegal what you're referring to is that there is no is that is that the selling Of certain kits in store by, you know, certain I don't know but by sellers directly to consumers is not permitted is not allowed has to be done with Certification, however israeli citizens or anyone from israel can order a test kit online Just as you do in america and can do the kit. That's completely fine with it This one coming in. Well, i shout harry. I'll let you go Daniel So I want to say folks. Thank you guys. Thanks all for watching that poll in the live chat had over 5 000 votes I think that's maybe the most we've ever had folks if you Hadn't already voted it We'll keep that up because i'm going to do a quick post credit scene in just a moment here as it's actually at 5 500 So It is still up and it'll still be up for maybe like another five to ten minutes I'm gonna let our guests go as we do appreciate them being with us. Thank you very much ap and daniel I will be back in a moment folks. So stick around right here on this stream. Thank you ap and daniel one last time It's been a true pleasure to have you James really Glad that no anxiety attacks happen on this stream. Keep it up ap. It's a good job Yeah, save your keep your children safe from daniel the kikachu And keep your children safe from from the talmud defending ap All right. Thank you. How much is the rapist from there? Stay away from Islam. Ap loves the idf genociding children. It's so sad So sad and so disgusting. 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