 last interview and he's right now with the IRS and he has taken a break for a year and right now he's with us and he will be talking to you and sharing his experience with you and after his particular session I think you can also feel free to have a set of one on once done with him and we can take it on also as per how you want to take it further all right he'll be with us till one o'clock and based on how you want the what kind of questions you want to ask him and how he wants to talk to you accordingly you can plan the session all right thank you and then I was to tell my engineering and post my college I got a few jobs but I was not at all interested in getting into the industry the reasons are obvious so that's why I decided I was into like social service and I thought okay why not try services I put forward this idea to my parents and the so-called liberal minded parents and I got lucky they were readily accepted my proposal and they said okay why don't you try it at the end of the day this is the all I can limit the way you want to go then I decided to prepare my first attempt came when they cut off seaside they did basically just a sort of namesake examinations for all especially south Indians if at all I have to call it you know it's a disadvantage for us it's obvious my next attempt I gave my names to this year's third attempt I eventually managed to clear which is my first so that's my journey and interview the popular perception says that interviews it up the spot but for me I always have this thing in me that interview is the easiest one easiest does not mean that it was easy it is easiest compared to the other two passes so I believe some of you have already attempted you need your hands so how was your experience before what was your scores okay so that's really good it's a really good score was that the only interview so the others only once so there are some often I've met people who've managed to score 201 interview and gone straight down 121 and they are also baffled they also don't know as to what happened it just sort of majority of the people would say that interview being subjective should actually be cut off just like of the government did recently took a decision for some services but personally on you know my personal suggestion would be that interview is that platform or as we call it personality test BT is that platform wherein you actually get to express yourself compared to problems and means you have a restrictive space where as for personality test there is no restrictions all they expect you to do is speak speak up that's all they want to know what correct right now when I entered this room you have no idea as to what I might have heard my name you might have seen my face but when I interact with you for the next two and a half hours you will get to know more about me because I'm the one speaking correct so I there is a certain part of me that I'm going to reveal to you that is me that is exactly what happens to the PT as well whatever you speak out whatever information that you give out about yourself to the interview board and in general that is the impression that you're going to create okay so the entire interviews in your hands that is the reality the entire interview whatever sort of question that they ask the ultimate result results in what comes out of you can drive it the way you want to if you believe that you're weak in a certain section let's say your graduation like also can I find for my interview I had already it had already been three years inside you know passed out of my college so I wasn't very great in my engineering graduate subject but I knew that I was good like I said I'm a computer science engineering graduate so I was good in practicals but I was not great in theory so I was a little bit concerned you know in case they ask me questions in my graduation I might be pushed to the corner but I was confident that even if that happens on some way somehow sway the entire interview into my favor okay at least I have that confidence so my interview date was on April 19th which is like towards the last year interview process before the actual dates were released which I this year's case would be released in a couple of days so I had this thing in my mind that I want my interview at the end hadn't been in the beginning I don't know the results may have been different but anyway thing is that I really wanted it to be in the end so I am a sort of personality my own character telling you about me I like to look at the positive side of things whatever happens I like to seek out even if something really negative happens I'll be down for a few hours few days maybe but eventually my mind somehow plays tricks with myself into believing that there's always something positive about it so my interview date happened to be April 19th so I was thinking what is the positive about it so I don't know how many of you people watch Balala movies there is an actor called as Balandran Rao she might know he's a very popular actor actor come director he's into everything he's like he had a movie called April 19 it was a super movie for me the way I look at it was in April 19 movie was a big head this day is going to be it for me that is the force that drove me during the initial dates so I think the dates were declared on Jan 17th last year so I had almost three and a half months ahead of me to prepare so I started asking questions what should I prepare about how should I interview it's ultimately personality test it's my personality that's going to be tested what is it that I'm going to quote rate there so one of the most important things that I've done during those three three and a half months was I used to kind of you may call it meditation in a way but I didn't I didn't term it in you know term it meditation back then but I used to sit in my room on my chair and almost for every day then consistently every day 10 to 15 minutes I used to sit close my eyes and imagine me going for the interview I used to just sit and imagine imagine questions that we might ask me and these were very general questions that used to pop in my head not at all related to cover the fence just random questions anything they could ask me about my father my mother my brother my background my school anything but it was that picture that kept you know solidifying in my mind when I kept thinking about it I used to imagine different kinds of people sitting as chairperson of the board women men some from the military background some from some other background so different people so this is how we used to you know how I used to sit and visualize how it's going to help me this kind of game with the confidence that I can sit for the interview one secondly remember I initially mentioned in public perception interview what was happening yes or no the rest for me the way I looked at it was they've all prepared you know putting our heart and soul into this correct if we start wearing the personality test isn't this the day that we've been waiting for yes or no all this effort all this you know the so-called effort that we put into all these years of experience that we had preparing all of this has been this for this one particular day when we get to portray ourselves in front of the board why should we fear that correct it's it's going to be something very beautiful to describe it in one day when I get to interact with you know seniors very senior people and express myself so I have a friend called Mr. Abraham and he is also in the IRS is very senior to us you all have heard of miss some of you might have already sat in a pool and people are terrified of her she when I went for my foundation because she was the team guest for our final day as well so she is always you know known as a terrifying lady because she hardly gives very good marks to this individual this gentleman Mr. Abraham managed to score more than 200 twice in a row in two consecutive years so I he's a close friend of mine so I sat with him already asking what is it that clicked for you so this is what he told me he said first of all one of his hobbies was analyzing football tactics okay it's a very unique hobby analyzing football tactics this is what his hobby was one and second was quizzing in football so you wouldn't believe this is what she did she went when he came and sat in front of the board she had a laptop open and she googled five questions related to five individuals over a period of hundred years in football because he had mentioned quizzing in football okay and lucky you know it was out of pure luck that he was managed he managed to answer all five of them this was his first interview okay so he managed to answer all five of them despite the fact that she had no idea about football no idea whatsoever she was she wasn't really fond of football as such so she had to google it up so you can imagine the kind of pressure that we might face when you realize that the chair person is sitting in front of you and has a laptop open with the Google Open and she might ask questions from anybody okay so luckily he was able to answer all five of them from then on he said the rest of the interview she didn't even care she just sat because he managed to impress her first and first one because she is a person or the chair person with the board is the one who gives marks eventually for us the other board members can give suggestions that's all okay they don't put marks we might suggest to the chair person that you know so many marks could be given to the so-called candidates but ultimately if you manage to impress the chair person that's all that's all you want okay and most importantly he said listen the people who sitting in the family they might be more or less of your grandfathers yes or no correct okay so how do you speak to your grandfathers or grandparents friends how do you speak to them you give them a certain amount of respect yes or no because of their age they are our but at the same time you have a certain friendliness in your relationship in your interaction with your grandfathers I'm pretty sure all of us who had interaction with our grandfathers we are more free with them than our own parents yes or no correct we can tell them even about you know even the most secret lives of our the biggest secrets of our lives we can even share our crushes or about our girlfriends and boyfriends with them but maybe not with our parents yes or no correct that's the relationship that most children have with their grandfathers but at the same time you already give them the respect yes or no because he said visualize yourself as sitting in front of your grandfathers friends so naturally one you won't disrespect them we definitely have a certain amount of respect but at the same time you will be friendly with them which is exactly what you want they want us to when you go those people who have already gone you might have even been offered you know chai, coffee tea yes or no I don't know some people don't get that okay so I wasn't offered as it is but some people are offered chai, coffee we like to eat something how we would share you know that's how they begin their conversations so basically one of the biggest mess you get stuck in the head so from that thing onwards I thought okay so basically I was going to interact with people who really don't like grandfathers friends so I can have a sense of friendliness with them with a sense of respect to the person I get so they won't feel that I am sitting in a very casual interview but at the same time you know I have given UPSC the seriousness that they deserve the respect that they deserve so that's how my journey began with my UPSC interview process I'm sure they're not I was pretty confident I mean all my mock interviews they all said I'm very pleasant about you but I have a lot of problems there which I rectified as it came about as in when they were spotted by my own seniors as well as the academy I didn't sit for 2 minutes I sat for almost 3 mock interviews and 2 to 3 informal mocks, informal mocks are where you sit with your own seniors and they ask questions and they evaluate how you answer the questions ultimately they don't look for right or wrong answers in UPSC that's the biggest mix that we found they don't look for right or wrong answers they always look for an answer they expect an opinion they expect an answer that's all I had 23 questions if I'm not wrong out of which I said I don't know to almost 3 to 4 questions I didn't know the answer if I'm right they gave a wrong answer to the question my options up to this problem and under pressure they actually ask me what is the difference between same something we have to say actually we have a wrong answer to that then they ask women with the other men to answer yes man I'm sorry I'm not under pressure they all smile yes that is what we accept you have to be under pressure so those of you who already got it you might know even when you sit for your mock interview the toughest yet the most beautiful part of the interview actually is the 5 minutes that you sit outside with you will have a chair like this this will be the door you will sit here waiting to see the talent that is the feeling that you will get so your heartbeat will cross 200, 300, 400 per minute you will be just sitting there waiting for the door to open until you call to come and it won't come it will feel like eternity why aren't you opening the door why what is it that you know the person sitting who has gone before it will be so interesting if he or she is so interesting they are taking so long why can't they just get it done they will feel all kinds of questions like sobbing it will be questions it will be very difficult to find answers to that so the few people I have seen so I have this thing that I love interacting with people I have this thing for interacting with people and I was telling them earlier that I have this thing with languages because I like languages so let's see interact with people alone so what I do is to ease of the pressure whoever I meet you will be the entire processor submitting our documents and then interacting and coming to me waiting room that is the big ground for the new set and way and then you will give your thought on to this you should share so during that process I used to interact with as many people as possible and not my interviewees I used to interact with the people who were there you know the people who took me that is many of the deeper questions I remember like they are interacting just in the kitchen, just in the kitchen, just in the kitchen, just in the kitchen, just in the kitchen all these professionals to ask for so if you ease my pressure and you will also feel good yes or no? So you will also feel array in North India and I will be saying this it's very wrong but they have this thing that you know the local ISI's offices are not less you know that is the so called barrier that we have to break up you know we ask to them to break up that barrier between people and bureaucracy so when they see a future you know civil servant interacting with them they feel really you know they feel special they feel array there is something special in me that you know this guy has actually spoken to me so that actually my pressure that is my way of doing it you might have different ways of some mothers using of your pressure some people like listening to music which you can't afford to there but it could be different all I am saying is that think of something do something you know create your own it's like you know watching the movie in seven they have a totem at the end same way you have to have your own idea to ease of pressure so if you do that you will manage to cover up those five minutes so after that I was called 5, 5, 10 minutes which felt like eternity I was called into the room so I was wearing a light coloured coat so I had this thing in mind that if I wear a dark coloured coat which most of the people would okay one I wouldn't stand out two light coloured light colour is always soothing for your eyes yes or no now these two facts are irrelevant totally irrelevant but they help you to understand that is the most important part some people might say when you know when you speak you shouldn't move your hands a lot I have this habit of moving my hands a lot so one or two more uncle they told me don't do this it's very bad but I don't know I felt that that suggestion is wrong because this is my personality when I speak if I move my hand and if it helps me to express myself better why shouldn't I I'm not hurting anybody as such nor am I stating anything incorrectly this is my way of speaking that's all okay so when you sit for your mock interviews also always remember you should be far enough to identify which is a good suggestion which is not a good suggestion okay that is very important so my interview began so I was wearing a very light coloured suit I had a clean shirt and I didn't have a beard or anything I cut short my hair till now I had I used to have a very long hair for my hair when I cut it out anyway so I went there you know with the bonita if I please you know if I'm in a clean shaven they might be around 20 years old so you can see what we are just thinking for young people because we are all filled with boiling blood you know boiling to create a revolutionary radical area you can change the you know the beautiful America anyway so I went in I said you know with morning and they asked me to sit down and the first question itself she pushed me to the corner so UPC again had this thing that UPC doesn't like people who simply prepared for 2, 3, 4 years and ran the exam because anybody can clear the exam if you clear in your first written valentine if you don't clear the exam in the first attempt UPC would accept, forgive you if you give your second attempt without working anywhere that's the idea so for a fourth attempt you need not work you may you know focus entirely on the time it takes to clear the exam second attempt again it's okay it's forgivable if you don't work anywhere but if you prepare but if you don't clear the second attempt also in your third attempt UPC expects you to look for other needs of job and then along with that because the idea is that anybody can you know sit and study for 3, 4, 5 years because some of you will have with a below average IQ and here's the example yes or no? correct? by the way 3, 3, 2 you know raise your hands and you cut me off UPC and ask any questions so this is exactly what I did when I didn't have a job I had a job that I gave up and then I took the first attempt I think we are setting it up again so then attempt again I didn't have a job but I was given but I had this thing in my mind that if I don't take my first attempt I will look for a job and then take it I didn't want to give up, I was sure luckily I managed to clear my third attempt the first question she asked me, okay Rame, what have you been doing all these years? so that kind of a question, that's all but it was really crazy anyway what have you passed out of college in 2014? so what have you been doing all these years? so I understood what she meant see this is very important she may have asked you a question but she means something else understood, it's always like that by the way my chair person was listening about now she got a different one so this is the question so I understood what she basically meant it's been 3-4 years what have you been doing all these years so I wanted to prove that now I am competent enough it's not that I didn't get a job but it's just that I wanted suicide you know I don't know how you got whole chapter situations and all that and I've been there college in 2014 but I didn't want to enter the IT industry that is the reason I decided to appear for suicide so she was impressed, at least partially I think I made my point that this is the reason that you know I haven't been working this year basically I had a job, I was getting a job but I chose not to get it not to take it, sir then came the toughest question of my entire entire process it was also the best for me so I had this habit before my before I went for my mops and all I used to write deep coffee in my hand just to make myself feel confident you can do all sorts of such things whatever it is so I wrote deep coffee in my hand so the next question and my answer is to do that so she asked me okay, you had a job but you didn't take it you regret not having worked in the US so I said man the very fact that I'm sitting right in front of you is that I didn't take it the entire batch was the entire panel was a little bit taken aback that I will be in front of you it sounds very nice for me because like this much now but over there it sounds very complicated but I didn't realize it so when I thought about it that's when I realized it was important and the entire board started laughing and suddenly I started pushing it was easy to laugh so then we said okay so then she asked a few questions and I attended the transcript and I will have the transcript you can read the transcript and she asked a few questions here and there from then on I knew it was an update nothing down to it I was lucky enough to have that one question one striking question at the very beginning one of the most important things that you need to understand with that you need to ask 20-30 questions you just need to strike one question one question for both that's it you need to answer no no no no for the entire duration of the interview that's it one question if you impress the entire board that's it so based on that question I was lucky to get that question in the very beginning some people may get it at the very end some people may get it immediately understood so that all depends upon I am of course who doesn't believe in luck but still it will depend upon your luck okay like I said we have the power to sway the interview the way we want it so if you always have the power trust me you always have the power if you believe so you do so correct so wait for that one or two questions where you can strike a goal okay and even it doesn't matter what kind of an answer you give for the others as long as it's not rubbish in some sense so always take a very as far as possible take a very mediocre standard because your bureaucrats will be under the weight you are not expected to take a radical piece you are not expected to be a revolutionary person you are not so expected to take extremist views and in general also if you look at it in life it's always good not to have extremist views okay even if you are extremist even if you are orthodox mind even if you are conservative it does not matter actually okay and there is nothing wrong in that that is the most important you are all humans we all have emotions we all have opinions okay so even if let's say you are a believer in one particular religion and the person sitting opposite is an atheist who is right or wrong in this nobody okay that the atheist wants to believe does not want to believe in God that's alright there is nothing wrong right or wrong in this so as a bureaucrat when you sit there in front of the U.K.C. panel that is what they expect they expect you to have an opinion one of my hobbies was reading historical fiction because I write short stories so I write actually even when I write short stories I focus on mixing history with fiction so one of my hobbies was reading historical fiction that was that was a positive aspect for me because that is when Padmavati movie was there it was caught in the debates so one of the members asked me very seriously they asked me okay I can see in your back that reading historical fiction happens to be your hobbies so do you think what is your take on Padmavati isn't it a very rubbish movie he actually used the word rubbish and I was a little taken aback I didn't expect him to use such harsh words so I was a little taken aback but I stood firm and they asked me isn't it rubbish they actually heard the feelings of people they should have you know freedom of the press should not be violated like this so I said I truly respect your feelings I took a very neutral stand but at the same time I had no fear I said in India the constitution is the first religion correct to ask for the constitution we have the freedom of the press the constitution everything but at the same time there are reasonable restrictions yes or no forget reasonable restrictions even if we say freedom of the press is equal to liberty that is it's absolute even then as human beings as Indians as other Indians we are fellow brethren are we not supposed to respect others so if I make a movie it's my equal responsibility to make sure that I won't end up hurting India is a country where for people religion is getting very very emotionally connected yes or no all of us even if a person is an atheist even for him or her there would be some source of power which would be very emotionally connected yes or no so America may be a country wherein you can fly you can burn the environmental flag whereas India if you burn the environmental flag it's not only an offense it's a very sentimental expression yes or no that is the reason we are culturally different from a country like America so I took that step I said the film makers should have made sure that the religious sentiments are not there but at the same time I stand by my my opinion that freedom of the press is a fundamental foundation of human democracy of Indian constitution such questions did come about there was another question the country would have came up with a ruling on liquor shops in and around national highways so there was a question on that whether it was a good relation so I said it's not a good relation because I said if a person really wants to trade instead of 15 meters he or she would obviously suggest to try all the way to beyond those 15 meters buy liquor and then come back to the national highway culture the action wouldn't even be even on rural roads and the debate might not have been and there was also a question related to simultaneously selection in which the board members who asked me were the savers of simultaneously selection but I was not so that member asked me that question are you willing to take on that so I said I am against simultaneously selection and I gave all my justifications in favor of your decision but this is on the board members side and in favor of simultaneously selection but I like your stuff so you don't trade for it so this is okay also and also one more thing one vital fact that we need to remember is that also the humans so we don't have a very large attention span technically speaking one individual will have an attention span of hardly 40 years it may be at most one way to whatever you present make sure that it is concise enough to limit the driven content you can speak on and on and on but even right now I've been speaking for the past 15-20 minutes your thoughts were so wondered for a lot many years some of you might have thought that going for some trips to go after your interview or you know going home after this examinations and you know all of this does matter and no minds would anyway wonder that is true so this is also very important that we need to remember over there to take advantage of the advantages that you already have if you think you are very strong in one particular reason it could be your graduation subject it could be international relations or whatever it is this is very important and if you have the confidence to be short that is what they want one more thing I have just mentioned they expect you to be scared this is very important they know you are scared they have also gone through the same process yes or no it is a UPAC interview UPAC that's like you know all the way to Delhi you might have come from the remotest part of the country you might have come from Arachapalesh, Kerala Gujarat, Tamil Prasmi you are going there for the UPAC interview competing with what 2000 odd best students best minds in the country and you are sitting there how can you be not scared it's impossible if you are at all not scared in the so called pure pattern if you are a person there is something definitely wrong correct so they expect a certain amount of anxiety even I was very anxious when I walked into Delhi and within that time train how you handle the pressure is what comes when you become the district collector some day you are not going to say you would have people to help us correct when you become a district collector some day we would have anybody to help us everybody would be against us so how we handle that pressure is what they try to give and you don't expect us to be 100% perfect because that is why we are trained correct that is what we want they want us to have the potential this person is somebody who can train into a good person imagine yourself and when you walk into the interview room imagine yourself to be only a civil servant I am a civil servant so I have to answer questions about you that is the most important one and then always remember it's a very beautiful beautiful day for me it was like that and even when I walked out of the interview room I was very disappointed I felt there were so many questions in which my answers could have been so many questions like I said I made up randomness making a wrong commitment with your office and civil service which I connected then and there when you don't know something accept it, don't be afraid please don't be afraid please don't try to portray yourself as somebody which you have not this but I have the potential that's all they expect you should have the potential to be trained into a good civil servant I have the potential I may not be good enough to be a civil servant today but tomorrow if you do the right thing I can be one that is all you need to do and once you do that it's child's play we need a lot of motivation for that and ultimately I believe I already know that with this source of motivation it's child's play if the right for you to be a civil servant is strong enough to I guess there won't be any burdens as such you will face a lot of burdens but it's going to be very good and like I mentioned in the very beginning of my session always have find answers to your own problems yourself that way it wouldn't feel as if it's been imposed upon you that you should do the right thing and you should take that side and evaluate yourself whether that's the right thing to do that is the best way so tomorrow when I apply for my examination and when I get to my interview I have no guarantee that I will be able I can still go about the one way there is no guarantee as such but I have the confidence that I can perform that whatever marks you give me that's the future I can't believe it but I have the confidence I go to because I already have an experience I know that I want to perform well I want to see the sun off because I love talking I don't know whether people like it when I speak but because I love talking I know I speak that is for sure whatever questions that they ask I will answer that that is for sure and if I don't do an answer and I will be safe that is for sure because I have wanted to create a fake image over there but if you have more so the first thing the worst thing that can happen in your local interview is when you try to create a fake image of yourself or lie don't lie that is the same as being fake that is the whole idea they always expect people who are driven by wild blood people who want to create change because 5 or 10 years down the line we all know what happens to videography we all go down the drain and we feel nothing is going to happen this happens but let's hope that that doesn't happen let's all know that doesn't happen but when you sit there they wouldn't want us to because for instance I had a friend I do want to know a little bit about this he is in the IPS he is very senior to me I met him at during my foundation course he is a Mangali I met him I have seen this when he said don't lie to the IRS please if you have any chance I would like to exchange research if he doesn't lie to the IRS it depends on those some people may not like it also I am in the IRS and you never know when I am already in the IRS if I manage to play I may not enjoy it I may not but I like to believe that I would enjoy it with that negative side of us and some people have always heard a lot many people say that stay away from negative people my style would be that people are not bad ourselves people are not bad ourselves very sorry that I would be one for a few days don't be away from negative people tell me which is better staying away from negative people or being with negative people and converting the negative thoughts into positive thoughts which is better the second one you need courage to convert that so accept those challenges this is the problem in our society you can find the answer please stop complaining have the time or the resource or the energy to complain whatever the energy is expand on complaining for other aspects stop complaining I am not saying that I won't complain either I complain but even when I complain very quickly somehow I manage to realize that people do enjoy complaining or this way I like the non complaining part the more you realize the better the more time you spend in the complaining part the more energy you waste literally waste that is the more idea about the interview process and you don't have any fewer aspects convert those fewer to anxieties I am writing a much positive word than fewer aspects and you remember all those source timers veterans would already know how the process is what is going on so also the 200 is not a very tough part but 150 to 200 is also not tough it is always about how you present yourself and over a period of time you won't even realize how your personality is and during my mock interview like I said initially some of my mock comments were that I am very pleasant to talk so I didn't know that I didn't know because I didn't know that so I am not praising myself I am just saying something I realized during the mock I didn't know about myself even my friends didn't tell me such aspects can be borrowed or can be accepted can be learned rather from your mocks and interactions with it simply do friends also and ask your real friends questions more often than not how it is that then you take it to your fellow aspirin also available for the interview you argue with them if that person has a particular view try to understand the source of that why father for instance capital punishment if you feel that dangerous crimes will be capital punishment why so I personally am against capital punishment even for the worst dangerous crimes I have my own justice but that does not mean that the person who believes has to make capital punishment no it's not when you say it to your fellow aspirin have a very positive don't argue with that person if that person believes so then you can understand why is it that that person believes so and I don't have that feeling that must be some reason why you don't feel like that to keep asking questions like that that's all spend a lot of time believing that's my type don't know don't know and one more important part that has to be start with yourself after this question if I ask you who is your great great-grandfather of mother this is your I am not asking you to run I am not asking you to run this is your this is your I don't have such I don't have such I don't have such I come from America for me it is like that but I already knew this one of my friends actually asked me this question and I knew the answer you already know about yourself you already know certain roots your own family roots which is good I am not saying that that is what typically start off with knowing about yourself if you come to know a bit of school know about that then you will start to learn so people don't answer that question like it is a precise year you can at least say you can start to learn but if they ask you let's say you don't know the answer they will say it is far enough I understand it is far enough but if they ask you if you don't know that is what that is something that is a big flaw proper flaw that you don't know about these are the flaws that you rectify before you walk into the UTC interview and hope that the questions are very difficult to you hope to the fullest I think that should be that is more or less the whole idea all those first time first time is here my question to you would be it is a very beautiful day wait for that day really wait for that day just ask yourself why isn't the day here why hasn't the day come yet you will find all the answers you may not find all the answers in one day for two days or one week or one month but you can see you will keep asking questions asking questions is a good thing very interactive I have a certain respect to them if somebody says you are wrong don't argue with that person say that sir I am not wrong this is the way I think I always think that I am right but if you think that I am wrong I will think about it so give a certain respect to them there is a small point how to impress them for instance when you answer the second time so when you say you can see your idea is there you will feel good you will like to recommend you are known for you know when he speaks to the UTC chat you will feel like small small little companies that you need to work upon for instance if you that means you don't know the names of people it's like remembering names if I ask you if I one year later when I meet Stalin if I say hey Stalin what's up he will be good he will remember me when I met him last year same way if somebody remembers me it's all about you know a sort of ego massaging so people and it's a positive ego don't take it negative ego it's not a negative ego you are all power mongers you are all power mongers in one way or the other it's all that ego that is brought up here so massage the ego and don't take it negatively okay that's it I guess any questions feel free I am all open answer for the there should not be a contradictory answer to one question one point for the another how to develop that for the next one or two months how to very good question having a philosophy of life first of all don't be driven by principles and by the way whatever I speak to you today in this forum it's not absolute you will have your own life you will have your own principles you will have your own thoughts so whatever I speak out here just take them as inputs and then process them in your mind and then come out to an outfit mine is not an absolute statement if you want so coming back to your question I have a philosophy of life very good question you always have controversies for instance let me speak on capital policies when I say that I am not in favor of capital is it a conservative answer or is it liberal answer because I am not in favor of it now it comes to Shabnamara issue if I say that limit should not be allowed to enter there is a you are hurting the custom that has been followed for years and centuries it should not be allowed what about that is it a conservative or liberal conservative or orthodox student so in one stage I took a very liberal stand on the other stage I took an exact opposite stand so such questions you might not even realize you might realize this only when you are sitting over there that is why I keep asking you to think when you read paper don't just read and this is a phase wherein you need to forget about facts you need to forget about facts instead you need to read the paper and understand how to make an opinion on something let's say could you show me the paper somebody this front page we have seen photos of Mahatma Gandhi that is the main slide so Kerala Harta just Harta take Harta Lasa would you support a Harta to the first question would I support a Harta for a common cause for a really good cause had it been had this Harta been driven by non-violence it would have been a good message yes or no but at the same time there was a hard-stricken Harta Gandhi coming out but in Kerala they are really bad you might know so if that something like that happens what is the opinion that I would take if remember when the famous Delhi Gangway happened back in 2012 there was actually a protest yes or no which actually kind of shut down all the roads and all the shops wasn't it for a just cause at the same time there were always different views to protest against it correct it was a good protest but I am only looking at the alternatives that's all I am not saying the protest was bad and I totally support the protest because we were really hurt our whole system was brutally hurt that way so we were hurt so we had the right to protest like that against the government so when you read something like that rather simply reading to the people because of so and so issue so and so happened and so and so we were supporting the protest rather than that remember or try to understand what is the opinion that I would take had I been the political party leader who took that division to call for the protest and had I been a commoner which I am a commoner now how would I react to that that is how we built so when you come across all situations eventually the number of contradictions would come down at the end of the day there would always be contradictions in that because at the end of the day we are humans we all have emotions we all have thoughts we all have the seven sins in us we all have those seven sins we all have that seven sins we all have that seven sins enjoy those emotions but even when you enjoy those emotions understand as these contradictions can have answers to evaluate yourself and make an opinion for yourself that would cut down as many contradictions as possible but it is not possible to have absolutely no contradictions so keep thinking and when such situations come and try to analyse what is the standard you will take thank you sir so introduce yourself luckily I didn't get that question it is a tough question we really don't know how to introduce that part but when you are asked to introduce yourself always focus on the matter which is not there in the dark whatever is there in the dark let's say you have your degree this and that start over with your name we won't bother you but always try to look at it in such a way that which would impress you for instance if I say I might start off saying that my name is Ramit that I would anyway say but from then on I would say like I said remember I introduced myself by saying that I am basically from Kerala but I was born and raised in Delhi which is actually written in my DAF because my DAF says that my school is same Columbus in Delhi but when I say I was born and raised in Delhi it's a different way of putting it you know wherein I say that my roots have come from Kerala but I was born and raised in Delhi so indirectly I am telling them that I have a Delhi mindset yes or no correct so that cultural difference is already set upon that so I am also giving them an impression that okay I come from a metropolitan city you know perhaps the most metropolitan in India and hence my thoughts would also be that way okay then you can go okay you know this is what I did and you know I've always wanted to prepare for civil services because you know I'm little bit into social service you know don't go and say over there I want to you know work for India you know eradicate poverty all of that is there but you don't need to explicitly state that so people might might get offended if you repeat the same old cliched stuff over there but instead point photograph you can even speak of the philosophical aspects like you said you all need to have some philosophies yes correct we all need to have some philosophies of life so you can she is the only daughter and then you could quote the father my mother how was how is this related to the person in the photograph so you are linking it so consider I am interview towards a topic in which you are confident you are getting it my mother is my grandfather I spoke of you know my viewpoints my mindset and I put forward a current thought debate topic or the sentences maybe one of them atleast would catch hold of that and maybe ask questions on that if you are good at it don't make the blunder of you know pinpointing something that content content is the right word for that ok so that is very important so I hope you have answered how X is that ok the person the photo person so the person who is there in the photo is mother so which means X is son we definitely get questions from so first I didn't get a question that's I wasn't strong I was really strong in the practical part I was really not good engineers please answer that ok generally the opposite are you not an engineer so you would know that ok anyway go on see if you you mean to say if you are not strong if you are not strong see if you are not strong and if they ask you questions related to something let's say if you are from chemical engineering and if they ask you about if it is chemical engineering they might ask you about anything correct ok 9 to 1 I will tell you later what is the answer for the 9 to 1 mother writes ok 9 to 1 I will tell you later but this is what I know if you directly don't know the answer to that question just straight away say I don't know the answer to that question and then just play it along and then you know add something but sir I know about this and then keep on speaking till they stop you understood if they stop you don't speak further please don't make that mistake ok and don't speak when the other person is speaking that is a sort of disrespect as simple as that if I am speaking if I gave you the permission to stop me midway why because I told you so correct had I not told you so and had you stopped me I wouldn't have felt offended but some people do get offended correct ok so we have to play with people's emotions so if a direct question is asked on a factual question when I said 45 minutes ok or 30 to 45 minutes so who is my there will come mothers grandson even we are low maybe my my son correct and if you feel that low and if you don't my sister son I am sorry sir I don't know the answer and just wait that's all there are often people who make blunders wherein they say I am sorry sir I don't know the answer and then they wait the entire panel may keep their mouth shut they might keep mum they might not say anything and that's actually a trap they want to see whether you open your mouth again you know enjoy that silence just say there ok enjoy that silence and look at them give them a smile hi how are you you know that sort of a smile ok within them and within yourself and just say there so the answer to your question would be so whatever that question is what is your graduation what engineering mechanical so they might ask you you know what is the difference how does a you know a four stroke engine how is a four stroke engine different from a two stroke engine as simple as that this is a very basic question to which you are supposed to know the answer ok that is a don't make a blunder of not being able to answer such questions like if they ask me what is I am a computer science engineer if they ask me what is an operating system and if I don't know the answer that is like you know which means I paid money to clear the examination as simple as that ok I am supposed to know that so four stroke is a very basic question so you could like for instance if that is the question what is the difference between four stroke and two stroke you might start giving examples maybe move on to a Volkswagen then move on to F1 because I follow F1 ok I am really fond of driving so see you move on to F1 and then say that sir I love driving I would like to be aware you know I have always been very fond of how Michael Schumacher drives Lewis Hamilton drives etc etc so see I have already brought in points from where they can speak they can catch hold and F1 I am pretty sure is not a topic that they have much you know with due respect majority of the seniors don't really follow F1 it's like a youth thing but if it is it's a good thing also so if you have a strong point really hope that the person the panel member also has a strong point in the same area only then it's advantageous if it's an area to which they don't have any idea about like I earlier mentioned about Abraham Wren most probably what you are going to expect is she or he googling it up and asking questions you also don't know answers to unless you are lucky very lucky understood so that way you can deviate the integral your name is Jagan when you are saying that driving a particular direction where you bring the action correct in such a way that you will say for example say like F1 trace itself you answer it in such a way that okay fine you make them ask why is that F1 not so popular in India or like there are very few things or like to ask a question where you were prepared the second part of the question which we don't know what it is but just based on your answer I am asking like did you prepare it mentally saying like okay whenever there is a question like this and I am going to say this so that they are going to ask me the second question just a hope or we just natural that okay fine I could always be like witty enough to bring that good question if I have a certain part of me which can be a husband or wife if I could plus symbol then they are but at the same time there was a certain amount of preparation also on my part wherein see you know your homework right now should be rather than simply mugging up facts like I said you know jot down all the topics that have been there recently okay so all the topics that have been there in recent past 3-4 months okay they are not going to ask you about you know what has happened like 10 years back or 1 year back last brilliantly I wouldn't personally suggest that what I would suggest is go through the relevant topics in today's current affairs and then when you jot it down let's say Harthal for instance or you know all Malayalis can expect questions from floods also because it recently devastated Kerala so whatever the question is so you should have a stand on that to take that particular topic and kind of make a list of all the questions that are probable from that delivery this is very important, this is how you deal with it this is what I did also you take a topic and you may preferably sit with somebody else if the two months are also better than one okay so you will have the list of almost equivalent max maximum list of questions that are probable from one particular area so once you get all the questions just a question okay once you get all the questions then try to evaluate every question may have a different answer even if it's you know somewhat similar similar does not be same they're different so when you have a particular question let's say again coming back to Harthal the question could be are Harthals relevant in 24th century India one okay another question could be how different are Harthals in India today why are the Harthals connected by Mahatma Gandhi back two questions correct but both questions can have similar answers yes or no you can answer the first question with content that you could have used in the second question yes or no so the content would be somewhat similar but not same so you can drive it if you want if you're good in history and you can release equal protests in India or those matters like history books you can sway this question into the second part understood so this is how you drive it if you're really good in history and if you want the crowd to be in your so called panel to ask you questions if you mentioned Gandhi, if you mentioned Namdej girl you're pretty sure you get questions on that because history is everybody's way history is unlike mathematics or economics or any other subject because everybody knows partial history for sure and if we can ask questions from India so you can do that there would have been questions where you would have already prepared for it you've already prepared for it so you have an answer ready made for it do you just jump the gun and just start pouring it out or you'd be very cautious about I just have to maintain this thing just listen to the question properly take a pause or something just be playing around there the thing is that you had 20 questions and you would have had 3 or 4 questions where you would have already prepared somewhere in between anywhere it could be and those answers are pretty good and somewhere it seems to be there's not much consistency do you think that actually affects or just in your answering say like no, no, this is the contradiction the 3-4 questions that you've already prepared you just answer them brilliantly and other questions probably very mediocre like or like something which not even the standard that they've expected because these questions raised a standard and other questions just put it down so in these cases like okay fine like how do you maintain it or like or even if you have an answer ready made like how do you just put it saying it's very natural that is very important you should know where you stand if you know that the interview is going down you need to pick up pace you need to pick up pace somewhere so like I said if you are lucky enough like me that you know the struggle is very good then somewhere if you already be out there so even then if you are not consistent which will anyway happen you can't be consistent you can't be good enough you know you can't make a six in every one you know right and unless you are you are asking a case you will have to defend the last two words somehow defend the last two words so when that happens even playing defensive it is okay when they ask you something you might even speak out something blunder like I did like I said I actually am aware of you how can you not know the difference in some simple obviously it was under pressure it pushed to the corner and I got the answer out and it was a lady member and she said isn't this the other way around I was lucky that she actually liked me she was actually struggling that I was wrong so even when you are not consistent just be okay be fine with it so it's all and the other way it's a mental way so you need to come across a question for which you already prepared like for instance for me that question I already prepared and doing my first or second mock but even if I mocked and I looked out for this question I took a different stand and what I am taking to my actual interview then I made corrections here because like that but it was mocked early in my preparation period immediately after the day is over so that thing is very important pause, speak do not jump in a it is very important when you speak do not jump in a pause, wait even if you have bullets ready just wait but I am putting it in a very mild manner okay so when that happens even if you see that you are quite mature actually mature is the right word if you are an immature person you want to do everything in high terms you want to give an impression that okay even when it is like saying how much you have followed things how you see the difference between how Jokovic and Federal reacts to the formats Federal is a very mature individual he does not react he does not think that he is bland he just wants the champions French hotel and he is still standing there Jokovic would jump around going there clapping in his own fans so he has a lot of I am just saying that he has a lot of there is a difference maturity and immature but being mature and being slightly down that particular life I want to get the difference so being a little calm and composed ultimately it is about taking care of it so lightly try to make the load non-consistent it is easier to handle don't get in the feeling that okay I am trying to take care but I am not going to be I am not going to be very naturally calm across a person which you want to be prepared which is definitely right because questions are going to be very regular very regular so when you come across a person just be very calm and you may even ask what is the answer you might say 30 seconds then you know maybe like when you already know I am going to say the same thing but during the break and then you see because I have to play the mental game I am thinking person where the thinking happens that is the difference that is for one question but I actually didn't know the answer and I had to think I think it was for the little little one of the questions what should I say how should I put it forward I was looking for words I wanted to give you the answer but I was searching for those words how to put it forward this is also very important like I said if I speak out some particular word and I don't want them to you know go into that area I would naturally be I hope you are there if you want to look at them like that I hope that answers others how many of you are really excited to wait for the interview one person that was very good that you raised here how many of you have raised here you know I don't know my boss have not been there I have a lot of pressure I think in the society I would be there is that pressure there is that pressure to be there do you know the emotion do you want to clear it it will come back your name Vivekanth that is why I said think of them as your family father's friends they are not your friends they are your best friends you will give them a certain respect so this imagine you can just put it on your family yes or no but the same time you are not going to throw it away you will say to use your friends you can't do you wouldn't promise to be there in your family you will have a lot of friends you will give them that respect that will be big for you you have a lot of understanding so some people they hard enough to see they have a totally they have a totally I personally do not like the idea of a non-VPSC a non-VPSC because they wouldn't be able to go there absolutely not I am not the idea I am personally against the idea because the whole point is that when they gave us they want a lot of discipline they want us to be the right family they want us to be the right family not only that we do it today very very true how do you say how do you say they would be hard they would have this hard you can have a story if you ask a few persons what is the solution to India Pakistan they say new kid is that the solution? no, but they would want they would be very hurt when something like Uri happens when Uri happens we have to take revenge we have to burn them down that's not the solution please don't take that stand please don't say that the final solution to Kashmir is burning Pakistan down they are basically like that like Manmohan Singh rightly said Dr. Manmohan Singh rightly said neighbors can't be changed neighbors are like our old siblings you can't do this so you need to have a good camera so when you take a when you speak to them have a sort of respect at the same time you know when you create a it's like creating a very amicable situation a very cordial environment that comes automatically have a very pleasant face just speak to them nice even if you are a little scared tell them that you are a little bit worried express those emotions and they will understand there will always be situations where you might feel that the interview is not going down well that depends upon how dynamic you are ultimately it's your game I might speak here for like 10 hours 15 hours, 20 hours I might take a lecture every day this is what you have to say but ultimately you have to say it yes or no we can only focus on the road for you the actual walking part has to come on your on your side when you do that you will know that you will have your own style you can't use my style I can't use your style last year's the first time world of style I have my own style to do that at that moment and be dynamic like I said when that happens just make them believe that sir we are here for a very quality ma'am we are here for a very quality please don't push me back I would also like to be a party that kind of image should be created that all depends upon how you speak one more thing I must tell you that don't feel bad about this it's not very strong in your language especially English is there anybody not giving an interview in English any other language no right so all of you are giving an interview in English so if you are not having a good command over the language is actually advantageous but not having a command is not disadvantageous you are getting a point that does not mean that you won't get a 206 if you are not good in English it does not mean that you won't get 206 but if you are good in English there is a better chance that's all don't feel bad about that because ultimately look at it this way you have to express your views better as simple as that, that's all whatever language you are if you ask me to give an interview in Tamil I won't be able to do that I will speak more in Malayalam than in Tamil because I don't know Tamil that well I watch Tamil movies so that is the idea so don't feel bad about that because we all come from different backgrounds we all come from different backgrounds and that shouldn't be a barrier in your mental preparedness I hope that you got the answer yes sir how do you define a thousand this I will think about it so lot of difference but how do you come back and know their experiences maybe their skills partying or starting from an inspiration or whatever it is how do you keep yourself motivated good question again first of all you are definitely done it's like philosophy of life you are always a student even if you are the best always have that certain sense of modesty in your humility there are other factors at play even if I am best there is somebody better correct there always even if you clear even if you secure the first rank there will be that person outside the list who is better than you 100% sure write it down if you want but you won't know who that is but there will always be somebody who is better than you so we are never done we are always preparing second when we are fatigued mentally being fatigued is the worst part so I had my own means to cope up with that when you are fatigued you don't have to actually study for like 10-12 hours a day I personally don't believe so to have means to express that it could be either to your mother or your father have somebody have that individual with whom you can share whatever you want I write journals so you could actually write journals start writing make that a habit it's a very good habit it makes your mind evolve so start writing and then read that like one month later and you will feel it's a very good person I was back then why did I even think like this or you might laugh at your own writing you might feel it's very funny that I wrote this back then so this actually helps you evolve so when you are mentally fatigued find ways to express your emotions you could go for a movie go on a solo trip if you have some passion one of the biggest problems in civil service separation is that we forget all our passions we forget all our hobbies so I know people who have never touched guitar in their life wrote guitar as their you know playing guitar as their hobby learnt during the post means phase and then went for the interview and got really good marks I know people like that so if you are courageous enough you can do that so nothing is impossible like I said in the very beginning whatever a speaker is not absolute nothing is absolute everything will change everything can evolve so when you are mentally fatigued I would say remember what you are doing here remember what your dream is why is it that you are here and appreciate life life isn't as bad as you think we all come from different backgrounds we all have you know lows and highs in different parts of life some people may be really underprivileged and then they come all over I have a friend called his name is Anand Justin he comes from a very you know I am very close to him not like close as friends but I like him a lot he comes from a fisherman family and I really feel bad that he hasn't cleared all this while and he is way better than I am way better than I can be at this point of time I can't talk about the future but he is way better than I am but he hasn't been able to clear and every mock he used to prepare much better than me and look where I did what I did and what he did so he couldn't clear you know score really good marks and I feel bad about that so there are much better deserving students out there who haven't cleared I mean that why did I clear and why did I appreciate life okay it just happens we can't really do anything about it that doesn't mean that you know he was bad he was equally better than me but he couldn't clear so such factors will always be at play to appreciate life like that because there are a lot of factors you know at play and just for you know food for thought I must put it forward for instance let's say if there is let's say a heinous crime happening a rape of a child that happens also feel that you are also responsible for that okay it's a food for thought think about that you will get the idea for instance if a man or if somebody, if a parent thinks that you know I am a brother I don't have immediate sister but I have sister if I tell my sister please don't go out after 8 o'clock or 9 o'clock it's not safe it's a bad timing as they say then I am also equally responsible as the person who commits the crime who would say that there is something wrong with them you understood so my thought or his thought is basically an extrapolation of my thought yes or no it's basically an extrapolation of my thought so I am also part of that society that kind of let the thoughts revolve around into and they get you know got mine was perhaps for a good intention but it was wrong his was wrong and wrong intention and it was no and destructive thought so I am also responsible for all the crimes that are happening in some way indirectly I may not be directly committing the crime but this kind of appreciation helps you become a better person so I am not saying I am perfect I am no way perfect but it helps you evolve or you know feel that okay I am getting better everyday so that thought is very good you keep on evolve find some means to express your anger you know like I am a mama's boy so I express all my anger on my mother then I go and apologize to her that's what I usually do but she knows me very well so I can blurt out whatever I want to do her then that helps me especially when I am under a lot of pressure so have that one individually if you can do that even if that individual is yourself that will also do so that is really good sir for all that can be you also give a number of attempts that is like structurally against you like I mean you are old and you are prevalent and as you said you know they are looking for young and you know who can be trained easily as you get older this attitude I mean like you get an attitude and they have to train probably they think that how do I go about this because I am one of them how old are you 29 29? not at all not at all I am 27 we all are old I am 27 I feel is there anybody who is 22, 23 years I envy you I wish I were that age same way you might envy me because I am 2 years younger than you so even when I said that UPSC doesn't UPSC likes to bring in young people there is no rule that we don't want like the older candidates you know comparative sense secondly we all have that drive at the end of the day what matters is how you convey them sir I maybe we don't even need to talk about age they might not even look at it but have you been working anywhere but you had worked correct so see that is a positive thing so you can make an impression over there Arvind that see sir I was so passionate about civil service that I worked in between I gave my attempt then I went back and worked somewhere else but still I had that drive that is why I am still here we all are not Albert Einstein 160 IQ we all have that you know 110, 120 some people maybe 190 IQ but ultimately that passionate driver Arvind has to convince the board see I am here because I am passionate about it I want to bring about the change and I have the potential remember I said all they need all they are looking for is that potential in ourselves you know irrespective of what our age is to be molded into the civil servant that they want as simple as that so age is not a factor at all I know people who are the age of 40 I mean obviously because of reservation have cleared 40 and they have cleared so they know that that person can be molded but there always be a little bit bias in favor of women that is obvious so we have and we should accept that we should respect that and because we want more women to come into service you know men are like inherently a little bit evil you know women are like much more stable minded that way it is a good thing to accept that bias also when I argue with my sister I always tell her this is so unbiased system I have to pay 100 rupees for the examination you people do not have to pay unfair is that if you want equity very jokish debate that I have with my sister but it is a reality we need to accept that we need to give them the space which we have not been giving all these years so when you convince them I just convince I just justified my stand same way if you convince them there is not a ton of them no barrier is insurmountable just convince them just tell them this is the case and they will not even talk about your age but they might definitely ask you they will definitely ask you you have had work experience they might ask you like you have had work experience how is that going to reflect in your civil service career what is it that you have learnt from there et cetera et cetera so think about all these questions and have a pre-planned answer but do not blurt it out as if you are vomiting it out that is bad do not like mug up an answer then go just have that idea in your head this is the answer that I am going to speak of and depending upon the situation I will put it forward as simple as that anything else next question I think this is a bad term next question you have time right yeah sure if you people want me to go through the daff or something I am most welcome you have a question yeah mind up be passionate about your life please enjoy this process all of you are winners sitting here you really have done a lot of effort you already have the knowledge they are not looking at your knowledge part but they are looking at how you put forward their knowledge that is very important I already know their knowledge because I have cleared the examination but you have to put it forward they need to know that you know they cannot assume you are meeting them for the first time they are meeting them for the first time in their life you cannot expect them to know already because I cleared me there are different ways of clearing me there is no guarantee there is no guarantee that it needs to be always because of our knowledge that is very important just enjoy the process feel that emotion, fear, anxiety however you want to define it but eventually you will come on top just have that belief they will also believe that you are the first person who needs to believe that I can do it rest automatically all the very bad