 In this episode of Mind Pump, the world's top ranked fitness entertainment and health podcast, we answer fitness and health questions asked by listeners and viewers just like you. But the way we open the episode is by talking about current events, we have fun conversation, we mention studies. So I'm going to give you a breakdown of the whole episode. By the way, if you want to fast forward to the part you're most interested in and skip the rest, go to mindpumppodcast.com. Everything's time stamped. Otherwise, listen from beginning to end. Here's what happened in today's episode. We started by talking about the school subjects. We were all weekend. Yes. Oh, by the way, only one of us got a D in a subject. I'm so proud that you admitted something. You'll have to listen to this episode to find out who had the bad grades. Then we talked about a new supplement category that's exploding everywhere, all over people's faces. Listen to that part of the episode to hear what that is. Then I talked about somebody overdosing on eating black licorice. It was not Adam, it was someone else, but it did scare him. Then we talked about a show on stars. Justin is basically talking about how you can sneak this in with the wife called Black Sales. I wasn't real subtle with this one. Then we talked about one of our sponsors, Viori. They make amazing athleisurewear and they just got neutral climate certification. So that's pretty cool. But besides that, they make amazing clothing for the gym or at home or anywhere. And because you listen to Mind Pump, you actually get a huge discount. Here's how you get the discount. Go to VioriClothing.com. That's V-U-O-R-I clothing.com forward slash mind pump and you'll get 25% off your first order. Viori. Then we talked about fast food, our favorite types of fast food. We talked about another show on Netflix called The Playbook. I mentioned a study showing how THC is being studied to treat COVID. No joke to treat COVID. That's kind of crazy. Way to go weed. Then we talked about blue light blocking glasses and how they make us sleep. Oh, so good. We work with a company called Felix Gray that makes blue light blocking glasses that don't change the color of everything around you. So they're not orange or red. They're clear, but they're still very effective. And because you listen to Mind Pump, you actually get a little bit of a hookup. You get free shipping, free exchanges and returns. Just go to FelixGrayGlasses.com F-E-L-I-X-G-R-A-Y glasses.com forward slash mind pump. Then I talked about a man in England who got in trouble wearing a snake mask. And then we talked about the new South Park episode that offended every single person. I'm so offended. Then we got into answering the questions. Here's the first one. This person wants to know what we think about controlling a deadlift back to the ground versus dropping it. What are the pros and cons? Next question. How do you tell the difference between being lazy and actually needing to take a day off? The next question, when should you cap off your caffeine intake? And the final question is following your passion, good or bad advice? Also this month, we took our two most popular workout programs, MAPS Anabolic, a full body muscle building metabolism boosting workout program. It's our most popular workout program. We took that and we combined it with the NoBS six pack formula, which is an ab building core training workout program. Both those programs combined normally around $170, but right now and only right now you can get both of them combined. It's a bundle for $59.95. That's $59.95 one time fee lifetime access to both programs. Here's how you get access. Go to mapsoctober.com. That's the letter M-A-P-S October.com. Did you know that there's a C in indicted? It's not indicted. Yeah. Why is there a C in indicted? I don't know, dude. It makes no sound. Why? Why? Adam questions the English language. Why is there a C there? Does it have like some... They're being tricky. Because you're indicted. There's got to be a reason for it, right? It's got to have some sort of history. Why is there a P in pterodactyl? Ooh, pterodon. Yeah, pterodactyl. Pterodactyl. Why is there a C? Don't worry, Doug. We know that we're on. We know that the high tech isn't working over there. I like Doug. Doug gets a sign that he turns on to show us that we're on air. It's literally the same nightlife as my kids have. Yeah, I feel like a kid in sophomore and high school made it in their class. Ha! Totally. Listen to this. It comes from the Latin word that means to proclaim. We pronounce it in dict because it originally spelling in English was... Or excuse me. We pronounce it in dite because its original spelling in English was E-N-D-I-T-E. Spelling that was used for 300 years before scholars decided to make it look more like it's Latin root word. Wow. I'm still confused. And now you know. And now you know. So you're saying that they said, hey, this word's too easy to spell. Yes, let's make it difficult. Let's make it worse. That's what they did to everything. Yeah. Spell flam. Flam. That's a word. Is that really a P? That's yeah. P-H or something. And with a G. Fligam. Is it really like that? P-H-L-E-G-M. And is there an E at the head, Doug? Yeah. Fligam. That's dumb. Who's the best speller, Doug? Doug's the best speller. Yeah, for sure. I feel like we're third correct. Well, he's like the last wall of defense before anything comes out of us. Doug's the best speller. Who's the worst speller? For sure me. Are you? Yes. Probably true. I was talking about Texas. Were you insecure about that when you were a kid? That you were a bad speller? You know. Is that even a thing? Speller? Nobody cares anymore, right? I think I was so bad at so many things that I just, I didn't, I think I got over insecurities really quick. Yeah. I was like, why be insecure about this one thing? I suck at many things. No, you don't. Yeah. You're good at stuff. Just out with it already. You know, I'm trying to remember. Like, I wasn't that bad. I wasn't like abnormally bad. Like, where I was like, you know, failing tests or anything like that. I did well. I told you I was in advanced English. I have no idea why. Because my teacher always told me that I was good at like putting my thoughts down on paper. Organizing them grammatically and stuff was not so good. But she appreciated that. So they put me in advanced English. But then I always struggled. The ideas are here. Yeah. I like this. I was put in, I was put in ESL when I was a kid. You guys know that? Really? Yeah. Because my parents are immigrants. And I think when I was a kid, I said a word. Because you know, when you learn two languages as a kid, you get a little bit of accent. No, you mix them up. Yeah, you mix them up. Yeah. So, you know, Spanglish. That's where Spanglish is. Yeah. So they heard me say once a word that was in Sicilian. Oh, wow. Put you in ESL. Easiest A I ever got in my life. When I was, dude, when I was... Winning. You guys have seen my handwriting, right? Yeah, it's like a doctor's handwriting. Yeah, you think you're a doctor. It's like, it looks like I'm writing with my feet. It's so bad that at some point, I used to get hammered about my handwriting. Just blast every teacher. He's the hammering me all the time. I did it on purpose. No, dude. So it made it hard for them to read. It's worse because I tried. I literally sat there and tried. And it was just so bad that finally in high school, a teacher gave up. And they said, this is what we have to do. You have to type everything. No, no, no. That's what they told me. Yeah. Because remember, I remember this back then, it wasn't like everybody had computers back then. Oh, wow. You're old. Yeah. Yeah. Chiseled stone days, dude. No, bros. My bad. Justin, you and I are the same. I know. You're old of me, dude. It matters. Yeah. Anyway. Okay. Well, Justin was held back like four years. That's true. I was still in grade school. He's a big-ass fourth grader. I fucking dominated though. No, the teacher literally gave up and said, write every letter in uppercase. So if you ever watched me write, every letter is uppercase because- I always think you're yelling at me. Yeah, exactly. No, it's just- You're not yelling at me? No. I'm going to punch you with this point. It's because you can't- I feel so much better now. I have no formation. Why is Sal always mad, dude, when he writes? I don't know. Yeah. I thought that was some blog thing. So did you guys, okay, what was your worst subject growing up? Like just you did, if you did bad at anything, what was it? What was it? My worst subject? I hated math, but I think that's because I didn't have good math teachers, but I really couldn't stand it. What about you, Justin? Yeah, it was probably between math or chemistry for me. It was anything that I had to memorize everything. I sucked at memorizing things. So as long as I learned and I figured it out for myself, I did really well, but everything else- You were good at- Did you ever get a D or an F? Did you ever get a background with that? I think a C was the lowest I got. Yeah, I got a D one time, and it was- I was out because I had my wisdom teeth removed, and then I had the flu, and I had- I was out for like a couple weeks. Don't give me all your excuses. I'm sane. What was this thing? I'm sane. You just got your answer. He's like defending his case back in fifth grade. Hey, I said I had- I'm still salty about it. My teeth, and this happened, and it was rainy outside. I wanted to strangle this teacher. This kid was bullying me. Yeah, yeah. All these things happened at once. Come out with it. What was it? It was in- It was in- We did quals, which was like in chemistry. You had to do like this whole process. So it was chemistry? Yeah, but it was like in labs where you have to actually do all the lab work, and so like they wouldn't let me make up all the lab work, and so they gave me a D. So that was my bad grade, was chemistry. Was it really? Yeah, yeah, chemistry. I didn't like chemistry. I got a C in math geometry, I think it was, and it's because half the time I didn't show up. I just didn't show up, and I would pass the test, and that was a- You know what's funny too is I hate math, and I have a son who's a math wizard. The kid's going to probably- He's in honors algebra two as a sophomore, so he'll finish high school calculus. My kids are going to teach me math for sure. Really? I'm sure of it. Well, they learned way earlier now, too. You know, personal training helped me with math a lot, and I can count pretty good to 12, three sets, track a couple reps. I'd be pretty good with that. My favorite class was cartooning. What about you, Doug? Can you remember all the way back then? It's been a while. Where did you get hit? Alchemy was his favorite class. When did you get hit with a ruler? Tell us. I didn't get hit with a ruler, but they did have paddles back in the day that had big holes in them. Did you ever get paddled? I did not, fortunately. I did not, but I knew people who did. Do you guys know why they put the holes in the paddles? Hurts more. I guess you could get more velocity? Yes. How crazy is that? The less wind resistance? They literally- They made objects to hit kids with. You're not even their parent. Turn your ass into swish cheese. And someone's like, we got to make these things faster. They would display it with pride at the front of the room. It's like, okay, this is your future. Some believe this is what's wrong with our countries that we got rid of this. Yeah, bring back the paddles. You know what they say? Spare the rod, spoil the child. Yeah, I definitely think if children were beat more often, that'd be better, that's what I think. Hey, wait, so you didn't have any bad grades, Doug? I actually did very well in school, especially high school. I did struggle actually in elementary school. Math was my nemesis. Weren't you chubby in high school? I mean, didn't you die? No, elementary school, I was the chubbiest. I slimmed down as the years progressed, but I was still chubby. He was also, I know this because when I used to train Doug and we would talk about this kind of stuff, he was scrappy. Used to fight and nobody mess with him. Yes, I was. Which is not, I mean, now that we- Did you get a lot of fights? I did. Oh, you did. Yeah, yeah, in elementary school, I was a fighter. I got a lot of fights in elementary school. Elementary school fighter. Yeah, I would take Doug. The fathered child. I would take Doug over all you guys in a fight. Well, I had training, by the way. I had a six-year-old brother who liked to beat up on me. So- You learned how to fight like that. I learned how to fight to win. Yeah, Doug will fight to the death, I feel like. 100%, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Do all the dirty stuff. Dude, so you know the supplement industry is one of my favorite things to study? Yes. And so I love looking at new emerging categories of supplements. Oh, is there a new thing coming out? Dude, there's an exploding category of supplements. So, you know, I've been into supplements for a long time, ever since I started working on them. You mean euphemism? And what? Exploding. Maybe. So, there's like different categories that I remember when the pre-workout category was essentially invented and that exploded. I remember when marketing for protein powders got really smart and they said have it post-workout and nighttime protein and all these, you know, intro-workout supplements, all these categories. I'm going to read to you names of just names of supplements. Okay, and then you guys guess. What is in it? Guess what the category of supplements it is. It's in. That's growing. Oh, I like this game. So much. So, I'll start with the names that are less like telling and then we'll just go to the ones that are very... Okay. So, Raging Bull. So, that's the name of one. Yeah, that's not obvious. Are we guessing as you go through? Oh, no, no. These are all one category. Wait till I get done. We'll wait for it. These are all in the same category for it. Okay. Volcano. Okay. High volume. Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious where we're going. Hold on. Max load. That could be like your PR. These are all names of supplements? These are the names of the mother load. Wow. That's another one. Yeah, we're going to get better. Ready? Yeah. Semonax. Now it's getting obvious. Yeah. Max Eject. Max Eject. And here's another one. This is for real. It's the name of a supplement. I swear to God, you can lick this up. Max Yummy Cummy. No. No. Now, are any of these done by a popular brand that any of us are familiar with? Some of them are brand that you might notice. I didn't look up the brands. But there's a category of supplements that is growing that is all about increasing the amount of semen you produce. That's literally the category of the supplements. There's some demand there, huh? Apparently. Like a load. Is it like five of them? Who's like measuring this? I mean, I'm not going to lie. Don't you want to try it just a little bit? Well, the ingredients- Just to see if it works. What do you mean? I just want to see if it works. What are you going to test before and out? Oh, you'll know. I mean, come on. I'm pretty good. Come on, Brad. I don't even try it with me. Yeah. Come on, guys. Adam's so persuasive. Your wife buys them for you. Honey, I got you a supplement to try. Yeah. No. So I look at the ingredients. I'm ready. I look at the ingredients, right? Apparently, there's a demand for this. And I was reading up on this. I'm like, why is this a supplement category? Yeah. And they're saying it's because the prevalence of pornography men now are wanting more production or whatever. It's becoming a thing. And it's a growing category. But I looked at the ingredients of all these supplements to see, what are they putting in these? What are they saying that's going to make this? Right. And believe it or not, a lot of the ingredients are legit. And so like, for example, Tonkat Ali, that's a product that has been around for long. People have used it for hundreds or maybe thousands of years. It does increase sperm quality, semen volume. Might increase testosterone. Ashwagandha is in a lot of them. Deaspartic acid is in a lot of them. So I mean, these are all like what used to be in testosterone boosting categories. And they're just rebranding them as like load enhancers or whatever you want to call it. Load assault. I couldn't believe it. You should see the ball refill. That was another one. It's used to see the pictures too on the bottles. I wonder, can you see how much money is in it? Is there a lot of money? Well, I mean, they're selling the bottles for 30, 40 bucks. Yeah. So the margins are probably the same as they would be for, I would imagine, I wonder if the margins are bigger because it's a newer. Normally that's how it is, right? Right. Until it gets flooded. Yeah, right. Normally, if you're one of the early adopters. Pan spermia. Whoa. So I went on, I started reading the reviews on some of these. They're great. They're so great. Yeah. My girlfriend's so happy. Yeah, how do you review that? Right? Is she really? So satisfying. Is she really happy? Come on. I don't know about this. Anyway. Finally. And more crazy news. Did you guys know that you could die from eating black licorice? No. Yeah. Well, first of all, it's disgusting. Why the hell would anybody eat it? But anyway. Too much of it. I like black licorice. Do you really? I do. So this was a report. So there was a man, apparently, that died from eating too much black licorice. Now, you think to yourself, he must have ate 15 pounds of the stuff. Right. In order to die. Right. Well, they put out a, what is it? Like a press release. And it says, if you're 40 years of age or older, eating two ounces of black licorice. That's not a lot. No. Two ounces, nothing. What is that? It's like five sticks or whatever. And it's got to be real black licorice, right? Eating two ounces of black licorice a day for at least two weeks. So consistently. Yeah. Could land you in the hospital with an irregular heart rhythm or arrhythmia due to the presence of the compound glycerizm. Glycerizm. So apparently this, there it is right there. Sounds like a Snoop Dogg. Ingredient. Glycerizm. Glycerizic acid is what it does is it can change potassium levels in your blood and throw off your electrolytes. So this, there it is right there. A man died after eating a bag of black licorice a day. Dude, how, what? Like, and they didn't know about this? Dude, I tell you what, dude. Does that mean that those red vines will have like a label now on or warning label? No, red vines don't have that. No, what do you mean? Red vines do, they make a black licorice. Oh, well, are they called red vines still? Yeah, it's the, red vines is the brand. Okay. So they make black and they make the black licorice and they make the red licorice. So I can see dying and like, and like drinking too much Jagermeister. Yeah. Because that's obvious. Well, what an embarrassing way to die. Like if you're gonna die of doing something too much, like at least make it drugs. Well, especially when it's not that much. I mean, there's probably a lot of people that eat a thing of licorice almost every day. I mean, that's like a. Adam. He's worrying right now. I know, I know. Normal thing. No, you know those, you know those tubs that you get from Costco? Yes. Like that's in office spaces. That's a very common thing. Like Katrina used to buy that for her boss all the time. She'd bring that they. Well, good and plenty. Yeah. I remember those little things. That's one of my favorite candies. You know what's funny about this is I think more people haven't died from this because literally black licorice is disgusting. I don't know. That's the reasons they're gonna come after you. Does it taste good? No, it's an older thing. When you get older, you like it. Really? I hated it growing up. Now I like it. Do you like. Like pecan ice cream. I hated pecan ice cream when I was a kid. Love it now. Yeah. Pecan's good, dude. Weird. My dad used to buy stuff. Your taste buds change when you get old, right, Doug? Yes. From experience, yes. Trastically. Especially over the decades. While he eats a word there's original over there. You know, what's the other. Those are good. The other thing is like your tolerance for like hot sauce and stuff goes way high when you get older too. You ever seen Doug with the like the green sauce compared to us? He goes crazy. It's like it's by age on how much. No, I've noticed that. I'll put Tabasco on stuff now. Actually, why? By the way, that's a secret, by the way. This is good for you, Adam, because you're a new dad. If you want to keep your kid from eating your food, just tell them it's spicy. Yeah, put red pepper flakes. No, no, no. Don't put anything on it. Just say it's spicy. That's the only thing that works. If you tell a little kid you want some of that spicy, I don't want it. But anything else they'll try. It tastes gross. I want it. Spicy, they won't do it. So here's my question for you, because you're a connoisseur on licorice. I know you like it a lot. Do you like. I don't know if I'm a connoisseur, but go ahead. What's better, red vines or twizzlers? Oh, red vines are sure. Twizzlers taste gross. Yeah, twizzlers are like fake cherry-flavored licorice. It's like, I can't believe it's not butter. Red vines are natural from the street? Yeah, they're red vine tree, right? That's where they come from, right? Yeah. No, red vines are kind of plasticky. Not red vines, excuse me, twizzlers. Yeah, twizzlers are the worst. Is that still your favorite? Yeah, I don't eat a lot of licorice. I was just saying that I know that's a thing that where people bring those big tubs, that's common. I went through a phase where that was in my house. You know, because those things were like five bucks for that massive, you know what I'm talking about, right? Yeah, it's a fat-free food, by the way. Yeah, exactly. That's what it says on the label. Oh, yeah. So I think at one point, everybody had those in their house. I think, what's his name? Dr. Integrity. Didn't he recommend eating them post-workout? I had them. He recommends Sour Patch Kids. Oh, my bad. Is he still doing that? They all do. That's like the trendy thing to do in the last five years. I hate that. I hate when the fitness space comes up with ways to justify eating garbage. Are you going to eat garbage? Just say it. I'm eating garbage instead of being like, you know, actually, the sugar is good for recovery, so I like to eat candy post-workout. That's why I'm so jacked. It's not because I take steroids. Yeah. Dude, I got a great show for you guys. What is it? And I totally stumbled across this because I had signed up for, I don't know, Epics or Stars, or one of those things like through Apple Plus. I was just like, whatever, I got to get a new show somewhere. And this is not a new show. This is just a show that was out. It's called Black Sales. It's about the pirates and whatnot. And it had plot kind of like, well, Black Beard and this whole story around that and all that, but then all of a sudden, boom, there was just TNA everywhere. Whoa. It just hit us like, whoa, this is totally almost borderline hardcore. And it was just like a regular show. What is it on? It's on, I think it's on stars, but with your lady, it's a good time. What's up with pirates and that kind of stuff? It's a thing, I guess. Wasn't that your guys' favorite dirty movie when you guys were young? Yeah, it's very similar to that. It's like no comment. Adam's face is like, I still watched that one. Well, that DVD won all kinds of awards. You know that? Yeah. Yeah, come on. I bet you don't know that. I still don't know that. Everybody knows that. Everybody knows like the most famous porn is pirates. Is it really? It's plot though. So I was actually still tied into it. Doug, look up top five porn DVDs of all time or whatever. Great. I have to do this, sir. Yes, you do. Yeah, you know what he did. Don't act like it's not already in your fucking cookies. Then you wonder why his computer freezes all the time, Adam. Yeah, yeah. He's already looking at that. I got a question for you guys, actually. I was keeping up with our sponsors and stuff. What does climate neutral mean? Climate neutral. Viori just got a certification. So Viori, for the listeners that don't know, they make athleisure wear. We wear all the time. Great stuff. Does that mean they're like a net zero? It's not too hot. Slightly breezy. Yeah, that's what I was thinking just now. Yeah. I think that means you're like a net zero carbon footprint. So what does that mean? Like every shirt you grow a tree or something like that? Yeah, I think that's what it would be. Something like that. But that's not what they do. They're not like that. Mir does that, right? That plants the tree every time. Like what does Viori do? I don't know. First I was thinking it's like there's an identify with a climate neutral. No, I don't know. I'm going to look it up right now. I didn't even know it was a real thing, but that's what it sounds like. Yeah, it says they say, OK, here's the. Did they get a better tax break for that? But you do. It says Viori announces climate neutral certification. And it says here, Viori, a leading performance apparel brand has successfully achieved climate neutral certified status by measuring, you're right, Adam, measuring its 2019 greenhouse gas emissions footprint, purchasing carbon credits to offset that footprint, and implementing plans to reduce emissions this year and beyond. You know, all joking aside, I like the fact that there seems to be a strong market demand now for environmentally conscious. Yes, like, you know, it's not okay. They make good clothes. They look good. Those are all selling points. Probably the more important selling points, right? Because otherwise people wouldn't buy their stuff. But it also makes you more competitive when you can show that you're environmentally conscious, which, you know, I tell you what, that wasn't a market 10 years ago. No, it wasn't. Nobody bought anything because it was... Well, no, it's become now like part of the business plan, right? Before you even decide you have a legitimate business, they're already factoring that in, right? Which is, this is not a bad thing. No, it's not. At all. No. I mean, when I was a kid, McDonald's served stuff that lasted in the earth for 10,000 years. Remember everything was in Styrofoam? Remember that? And cheeseburger and stuff on Styrofoam? You put that, they put, they throw that away. It's there for your forever. Speaking of McDonald's, did you see the article that Jackie shared with you as the rapper? They had a Travis Scott burger. Now they got a, I forget who the other guy is, the famous Latin singer burger that's like... McDonald's is partnering up with a lot of these famous people and then making like special... And that's like, all they're doing is like, so like he takes the pickles off the big mac. You just changed one little like modification. Smart marketing, though. I mean, it's working. I mean, people get all excited about it because it's a Travis Scott burger. Yeah, I heard about it. It's gained a lot of traction. I didn't know anything about it. And my brother was the one to actually tell me about it. This is a thing, like the Travis Scott burger. I'm like, what are you talking about? I would never write off McDonald's. They are absolutely brilliant with their marketing. And I will say this, till this day, I don't like their burgers, but their french fries blow still to this day. You're not a big mac or a quarter pound gyno? I always hated McDonald's. It's not really, to me, it doesn't taste like a burger. Oh, I didn't tell you guys. I had a Whopper, I had a Burger King burger the other day. First time in maybe 15 years. Did you really? Yeah. Would you have diarrhea? Yeah. I, you know what? It didn't hit me as bad as I expected it to hit me. Not as bad? Yeah, you know what I'm saying? It got me. It got me. You know what I'm saying? It's getting me for sure. But not as bad as I thought. But I also only had one. I didn't like- Now, does it remember a lot? Do you, does it taste like you remember? No, it never does. That's what's interesting about those foods, right? Well, I remember growing up and loving things like Taco Bell and burger. I mean, I ate fast food all the time growing up. Yep. And once you've not had it for a decade or more and then you go back, I've done that with a couple of fast food chains where it's been like, oh, you know what? It's been so long. Let's just try. I used to love this as a kid. I remember this was called a while back, at least like five, 10 years ago. I hadn't had Taco Bell since I was a kid. And I thought, oh, you know what? Taco Bell was my favorite as a kid. Mexican pizzas and whatever the- They just took two cultures and combined it. Mexican pizza. It was brilliant, by the way. And I love that it's a kid together. Oh, I had it. I had it not that, well, it was years ago, but I had it after I had not had it for a decade. And it just tore me up. It didn't taste good going down. So what state of mind were you in to go to Burger King? That's what I'm- Desperate. Desperate. Yeah, we had, we were driving. Well, I don't remember where we were. We were driving from somewhere. Had an eight. I didn't eat breakfast. I hadn't eaten from the day before. Max was fucking irritable in the car. It was just like, I need to eat. Like, and we still had a three hour drive ahead of us and traffic and I'm like, just give me something. Just need to wolf it down. And it was like, after it was like late, right? So there wasn't a lot of options, you know, when you're trying to look for food at 10 o'clock at night, there's not a lot of like, and on the road. And so I just, I told her, I broke down. I said, listen, I'm pulling in. I just want to get like a burger, a whopper, right? Get a simple burger. And I just, I committed to whatever the next, the next exit. If I had to pick one of the big like fast food restaurant chain burgers, Carl's Jr. still wins. Yeah. In my opinion. Now, does In-N-Out and Five Guys fall in that category? I don't count them in that because I don't know why I don't. Yeah, no, they should. They should be, right? Yeah, I feel like those are different. Yeah, they crush them. They have the best burgers. Yeah. For sure. And they're the ones that I've never stopped eating, right? So Five Guys and In-N-Out has been a part of my life forever. Well, I didn't really eat. I'm trying to think. I didn't have In-N-Out until much later. Like, I said a little, as a kid, I don't think it was around here. Was it? I think it's because they're more expensive or something. I don't know. Yeah. Is that what it is? Maybe. Maybe you feel there's like this, like, I don't know. They have that on them. You kind of feel like the quality's better, but I doubt it. I don't remember them being a lot of them around. No, there wasn't. Yeah. No, there wasn't. You know what's funny? Yesterday, I was hanging out with my son, and he says, you know what? He goes, I've never had Jack in the Box, Carl's Jr. or Taco Bell. My kids never had either of them. Wow, really? Never. Because we don't eat it. We just don't do it. They've had McDonald's chicken nuggets because when they were little, and their grandma was still around, she would take them to get nuggets sometimes. But they'd never had any of that stuff. So I'm almost thinking, because my son's 15, right? So I'm almost thinking it would be kind of fun to do a little field trip and have them try these things. And the mini van, just yeah. Here's your dad. All your dad's favorite things. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're going to do a tour. Yeah, when I was a kid, my jam was the double quarter pounder, which is McDonald's. That was my favorite. Justin, you brought up shows. I got one for you. And I really want you to watch this. I'm just. You don't have to do a sports? Yes, it does. I'm already. So every once in a while, Netflix does something that I'm impressed with. They've done a really good job of looking at other streaming services and going, OK, what can we do that's competitive with that? I pay for ESPN Plus, which has got all the cool 30 for 30, and E60, which are, I love good sports documentary shows that are short clips on some coach or an athlete that I'm unaware of. And they tell the whole backstory. And they do just such a good job. So Netflix came out with their rival show to that. And it's called The Playbook. And they take these coaches that, I mean, maybe I'm familiar with them, but I don't know their whole backstory and really all their accolades. And they're talking to the top of the top and whatever sport and all over the world. So soccer and volleyball and every tennis. And so there's a lot of these coaches I'm not aware of that are just super bad. And hearing their story, what has made them great is phenomenal. So they talk about their coaching techniques and stuff. Yeah. And like, yeah. So you will appreciate that. It's less about the game. It's more about their leadership qualities that turn them into great. Like, for example, there's a coach. And I'm sure people that are into the sport will make fun of me for not knowing the name. But Serena Williams' coach, his backstory is really interesting. He was a kid who was, and he talks about one of his points is that making your greatest weakness into one of your greatest strengths, which I talk about. I say that all the time, right? He stole your quote. He did. That's how I felt when I was watching him. But he's older than me. So obviously he had it first. So he, as a kid, was like unbelievably shy. Like he, he was, and they put him in therapy for a year. And for one day a week, every, every, every, so 52 right sessions, never said a word for a year. For a whole year sitting in therapy. And the reason why they had him in therapy was because he wouldn't talk to other kids. He was really insecure and shy. But during that entire time of growing up, because he was scared to say anything or talk to me, he like analyzed people's behaviors. Their way that their facial expressions, the way they walk, their posture, the way they move, and just became like this, this brilliant. Interesting. And then he also loved tennis and he was a good tennis player, but never became great, but could like really read their body language. And if they were scared, they were nervous. They were playing timid. They were playing too aggressive. Like he got so, so good at that, that that's, that carried over into him being this. Oh, that's interesting. That's him right there. Yes. That's him. How do you say his last name? Yeah. Muratoglu. Muratoglu, Patrick Muratoglu. That does sound interesting. It's really interesting. So, so, okay, all, you know, I know I joke around about not being into sports, which is true. I really don't care too much. But as an early trainer and then manager, there was a coach, not because of their watching sports, but rather because of the books that they wrote that had a huge influence on me, Vince Lombardi. You ever, you ever read his, like his, how he would coach and some of his, there's some quotes that He's amazing. That you don't, that you are familiar with, but you don't realize they came from Vince Lombardi. For example, like it's not whether you get knocked down. It's whether you get up. That's Vince Lombardi. You know, winning isn't everything. It's the only thing, right? That's also. We call it up downs, Lombardi's. Really? Yeah. Yeah. So, and so I, he actually had a huge impact on me as a manager, but not because of football, but rather because of what he wrote, which really did resonate with me. Well, I think that's what made me so passionate about, like when I was first getting into training, I was a trainer for only about a year before I moved into management and leadership. And I fell in love with the leadership aspect of trainers more than I ever did being a trainer. Like being a trainer was cool and fun, but I really enjoyed leading a team. Like, and I think that comes from the sport aspect of like coaching and leading. And you know, it's there, you getting a bunch of players that there's another one on a soccer coach that is like world renowned that I don't remember his name. Justin's favorite sport. Yeah. And, you know, he went out and got a bunch of no-name players and he's like, I would rather go get a bunch of no-name players that have specific characteristics and qualities that build, that would build this bond within, with each other opposed to going out and getting five of the most talented players in the world. And like he proved that method to be extremely successful. And I, most really good leaders know that, right? Like I'd much rather have a team of people that are bought into the system, bought into, you know, us together as a group versus, you know, talented individuals. And the extreme of that is moneyball. Right, yeah, no. Which is like, yeah. Which I actually have issues with, mainly because of the, it sort of takes away a little bit of the team bonding unity, like loyalty aspect of things, but it does make sense in terms of, you know, analyzing everybody in terms of stats and really, you know, going for those small plays that end up getting you where you want to go. Well, I can, but I actually disagree with that. I think what ends up happening when you do that is you get, I mean, imagine money, like moneyball, which I love that story too. You get these guys, you know, Billy Bean gets all these players who nobody cared about. And they put them all on a team. So they all, it immediately have a chip on their shoulder of kind of being the leftovers or nobody cares about or didn't think of, didn't scout them, didn't think they were great players and put all those guys in one group. And I bet you money, they all come together. They come together and are like, you know, and they all play with that similar chip. Yeah, they do, but then they also get traded right away. Well, yeah, which is for the fans, it's, I guess my point is for the fans, it sucks. Yeah, because there's a part of watching sports too, that like you, you like get attached to these players and you really want to see them in their success. And then they leave and it's like, wow, I still want them to succeed, but it's like, I still have this loyalty to the team. So it's, I don't know, I'm going to talk about it. Well, that I understand, because you're right, because that was like their, that was their business model. Their business model was get all these players for cheap, take them far into playoffs. Like the Bash brothers would have never existed, which would have destroyed me as a human being. Mark McGuire and Jose Canseco. Oh, look at you, look at you with the sports ball facts. Sometimes I remember something. Hey, do you guys want to hear something crazy? So they are researching right now, they did a study with animals on THC and COVID. Really? Yeah, they found, so they did an animal, they did it with rats and they, the survival rate went through the roof when they gave the rats with COVID THC versus the control group, which was rats who just had- Was it really just the scientists getting high and then was like, I'm just going to blow this on them? No, no, no, they gave it to them. And they say the reason why it works is because of the way that THC and other cannabinoids tamp down the immune response. Because one of the ways that COVID kills people is you get this runaway inflammatory immune response where your body starts attacking itself. And so now they're funding research on THC for COVID specifically. Isn't that wild? This is so crazy. It's so crazy. All the marijuana companies loving that. Oh yeah, dude. It was this drug that was so illegal for so long and now they're like, oh, it can potentially help with cancer. Oh, it can help with this disease that's causing this pandemic. I don't know, what I will tell you is I am sold on the whole CBN kick that you were on for a long time. Bro, it puts you to... Wait, yesterday I saw, didn't you do a combination with the blue blockers? Okay, so that is the move, right? Like so putting the blue blocker glasses on, like I talk about trying to be consistent with that at night when the sun goes down and then adding in the Ned sleep. That stuff is some of the best sleep I've had. Okay, so let me ask you guys this. So now I've used it now at least 10 times, I'd say at least 10 nights I've used it and for sure this is definitely a side effect of the sleep. I sleep hella good. I wake up rested. I don't wake up groggy. It's very, very effective. In fact, if I take it and don't go to sleep, I can feel like, oh, I need to go to sleep right now. I get vivid dreams. Like I get really, really good, strong, vivid dreams. Have you guys noticed that? I don't know if I get that from that. Yeah, I'm just pretty much darkness. Really? It's just all black. Like the inside of you. I also smoke a lot at night. So that always gets rid of the dreams, right? Dude, I had the weirdest dream last night that we murdered someone and hit the body. I don't know. I don't understand it. You ever have a dream where you're like, why would I dream this? We murdered someone. Was it in Vegas? We hit the body. You got it next time you have a dream where they got to message me. I'll look it up in the dream book and tell you what it is. I don't know what it was, but we hit the body in the foundation of a property and then we bought the property that way nobody would ever find it. And here's the weird thing. I know, dude. I woke up. You ever do this? You wake up in the middle of the night through the dream. You're not sure if you did it or not? Yes, dude. And I'm literally sitting there and I'm thinking to myself like, how am I going to tell Jessica what happened? Like, this is terrible. I can't believe. And then I'm like, oh, it didn't happen. Oh my God. I feel like I'm going back to sleep. Right back into the dream. Right back into the dream. As soon as I fell asleep. I didn't do it. Dude, that stuff, I sleep so hard on it that I'm using it nightly to see if it wears off. Like does it, do I start to get used to it or whatever? But so far, if I take that. I'm still new. So maybe the next few times I'll get to know the dreams. I also noticed a big difference too. I don't know if you guys mess with the blue blocker glasses on the nighttime ones versus the daytime ones. I can wear it so like. The nighttime ones will make you drowsy. Right. If I sometimes I need to stay awake at night and I'm like studying or whatever and I'll be all wear the daytime ones even though it's nighttime because I'm not trying to fall asleep. And it takes away the strain on my eyes. I still when I decide to take them off and go to bed I can still fall asleep relatively quick. The actual nighttime ones. If I once I put them on like an hour later. If I'm going to watch a movie that's like longer than an hour or something. I don't, I have to switch out. I have to wear the daytime ones and then the nighttime ones about 30 minutes before I want to go to bed because I won't be able to finish the movie. Yeah. I start to find myself getting drowsy. I feel like such a hippie. I never thought I'd be this guy. What do you mean? Wearing the bluebuckered glasses and then I got a salt lamp, you know, Himalayan salt lamp. I did that. Like it's ever like it totally works. No, I'm not going to stop. Are you saging the house? Exactly. I feel like that's the next step. It's because, you know, it's when you get older all of a sudden you appreciate sleep on a whole another level. Oh yeah. When you're a kid. We brag about it. Yeah. When you're younger you're, you think exactly. It's like, bro, I got so much good sleep last night. Dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Slip on a horse. I like to stay up all night. That's what I do. No, but I mean it, you know what it is? Okay, this is the big thing. I think when you get older you start to put aside like, yes, you definitely can make fun of yourself about using these things, but you're open-minded. If it works, it works. Yeah. That's the bottom line. No, that's it. Yeah. That's that's my measure. Because I remember we went to Paleo FX like three, four years ago the first time and we saw people wearing blue, you know, blue blockered glasses. That's a little ridiculous though. Like I, you know, I remember everybody was wearing the tow shoes. So pretentious. I do it, I do it when I know I'm going to be on a computer a lot. Right? So if it's a day that I know I'm going to be in the middle of the day, if I'm going to be working on a computer or my phone all day long, you'll catch me wearing them in the middle of the day or I use them at night time when I'm trying to prepare for sleep. Those are the two places I find the most value. Wearing them around, like a convention where I'd be up all day anyways. And I'm like, that to me still is. And you're seeing orange all day? That to me is, yeah, that to me is. That's more to show everybody else. Yeah, that to me is still ridiculous. It's just like it just doesn't add as much value to me to be wearing it. Oh dude, I read some funny news today. This is hilarious. So a man in England got in trouble because of the mask he was wearing. So he gets on a, he gets on a transit bus. And it looked like he was wearing like a snake skin scarf or something like that as a mask. And people until it started to move, he actually had his pet snake wrap around his face. And that's what he was using as his mask. For real? Yes, dude. What? Genius. So he got in trouble for it because apparently you can't use an actual snake. You can't use a snake? Yeah. I mean, it's probably the same effect. A lot of places won't even let you, like so I was at In-N-Out not that long ago and. Man, you're just using all kinds of factors. It sounds like it right now. Jesus, Adam. So these are different times. It's like few weeks in between. One was breakfast, one was lunch. Yeah. And we, this, I was watching all the people come in and out, right? And this couple came in and they didn't have a mask. And so they did the whole like. Shirt up? Put your shirt up and they won't serve you. So there's a lot of places. What's the difference? I know. Yeah. But hey. The kid explained to them that they've been told that if you're not wearing the, and there's they have, and you'll see like on the buses, there's like examples. It has to be like one of these masks. If it's not, then it doesn't count. Really? Yeah. So, and a lot of, a lot of. Because cloth masks are accepted everywhere. I know. I know. There's the guy with the snake. Look at that. It's like a huge ass like boa constrictor. Dude, how did he not like suffocate him like that? Here's what I think. I think it helps with social distancing. Exactly. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. That's the most effective thing you can do is stay in the hell away. Yeah. Speaking of that, we finally watched together the freaking, what should we call it, cartoon? South Park. South Park. Thank you. Oh, wow. That was so good. They swung so hard on that one. They did. I appreciate it. They attempted to offend everybody. I was, you know what, as a kid, I didn't actually watch a lot of South Park. Me neither. I liked it as I got older. As I got older, I was like, oh dude, this, they're so good. I just love their social commentary. And I would watch it just if there was something happening in the news where I knew like South Park is going to destroy this, like I would watch then. But I wasn't like, I don't know. It was kind of obnoxious, like after a while, because he knew that there's going to shit on everything. You know? Oh, but I, okay, so a little spoiler alert. I'll just give one part away. But I was like, I can't believe they showed the dude, the cartoon guy banging a bat, Mickey Mouse. That's all I'm going to say. Mickey Mouse from Disney. Dude. And one of the characters. Yeah, I don't understand how they got away with that. Like, I have no idea. They got a whole ton of lawyers, I'm sure, before they released that. Yeah. I mean, how can, yeah. Didn't they get sued by the Mormon church at one point or something like that? No, I think the Mormons have been cool with them. Really? Yeah, I think it's- Or was it Scientology? It's Scientology. It's very litigious. Yeah. Really? Yes, dude. Really? Bro, you'll get sued by Scientology faster than I would. Very litigious. More than CrossFit? It's probably equal. Well, they're both, they're both religions. I don't know. Yeah, they're both, they got Kool-Aid. So, yeah. First question is from DKZ all day. What do you guys think about controlling a deadlift back to the ground versus dropping it? Great. Yeah, it's so good. All day? I'd add that for the bingo. The same thing that I would say about any exercise, there's pluses and minuses to either one, right? So when you look at like an Olympic lifter and they do their lifts and they explode, swing the weight up at the top, whether it's a snatch or a clean or whatever, and they drop the weight, what they're trying to do is they're trying to work on their explosive power. Dropping the weight, first off, reduces the potential damage on the muscles. They're not really interested in super fatiguing the muscles. They don't really care too much about bodybuilding. It's about improving their performance. It's less risky. It's less risky. So deadlifting up and then dropping the weight, you'll still build strength. You're going to get a little bit less muscle growth, just like you would from not doing the negative portion of any rep. I'm guilty of dropping a deadlift sometimes when I hit them. I'm probably the biggest offender here. Really? Yeah. Well, you like the Olympic lifter. Well, yeah, because mainly that was how I learned power cleans and everything else. And that's how I would deadlift, was just to pick up the weight and then drop it because that risk factor is always something to consider. But I liked really pursuing more of that initial power and that explosive output that I could provide. Well, what you should do is you obviously should not use the same weight. So I do this in phases like we do in any of our programs. So if I have been lifting really heavy deadlifts and I've been dropping the weight for some time, like then I'll switch it up and reduce the weight to 50% and then really control the negative. So I think for the average person, somebody who is just trying to be healthy, strong, build a good physique, lose body fat, build muscle. Just overall. Overall, this belongs in your routine. You should absolutely face. This is how you should mostly deadlift. Yeah, you should run a phase where you do a very controlled negative and let the set the weight down, at least a phase if you don't always do it that way. Because there's not tremendous value for somebody to be dropping and slamming the weight, especially if you're not competing. If you're not competing to hit a specific PR. Well, even in powerlifting, if you don't bring the weight down, you get disqualified. You're not allowed to drop the weight. Yeah, but you can drop it in your hands. You can let the weight fall. You don't resist the weight down. Oh, I know what you mean. Hold the weight and go down. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you still- Quickly. Yeah, you're still kind of dropping it, right? Sure, sure. I mean, this is what this person's asking to me is like resisting it on the way down. Really slowing it. Like a four second negative. I'll do a four second negative on a deadlift. Sometimes just to change up my training. It's much more body building that way. That tears me up, man. Oh, it will get so effective. It will get you. It is. I'll give you an example. I will relatively control a deadlift up into going up to about 400 pounds. After 400 pounds, I tend to drop. I don't control a five plate deadlift. The five plate deadlift for me. So just to give you an example, that's a 100 pound difference. There's a big difference between dropping the weight and controlling it. Which one is going to build more muscle? If I had to pick one, it's obviously going to be controlling. But if you do both and do them right, you're probably going to get better results. But I don't recommend dropping anything or going fast on anything on the descent unless you're an Olympic lifter advanced. Otherwise, it's not really recommended. Or just having fun because it's pretty liberating. But I mean, if you watch like a... Look, it's pretty telling, right? If you watch a... Here's something you could do. Go on YouTube and watch Olympic lifters barbell squat. And then watch power lifters or bodybuilders barbell squat. Very different. Very different. Besides the bar placement, Olympic lifters like to have a high bar and much more upright posture. They drop fast. They drop fast. They can bounce back up and use that elastic energy. And that requires way more skill, way better control and way better stability. The average person drops down... High risk with that. You drop down fast in a squat, the average person, you are going to injure yourself. That's not something I would recommend to anybody. Which again, building more muscle overall, always control the negative. The negative portion of a rep is just as important as the positive. Next question is from Little Lish. How do you tell the difference between being lazy and actually needing to take a day off? Oh, I like this question because we... I know we talk a lot on here about like, you know, taking days off and recovering and rest. And it's, you know, and I'm always reminded that, you know, our show is geared more towards, you know, your average person, right? Like that's just wanting to be healthy and fit and not like your super advanced lifter. I mean, there's obviously a portion of people that listen to this show that would consider themselves advanced lifters and they lift consistently five to seven days a week, year in, year out. But that percentage is much smaller than the rest of the population that's listening, including like our clientele. Rarely ever. Okay. Did I have to tell clients of mine to take days off? Yeah. Most clients, it was more about trying to keep them consistent and consistently coming in and staying consistent for months and years. That, so the only time I think that it's really necessary is when I'm talking to somebody who is extremely fanat. I mean, somebody in this room, right? So if I was talking to Sal or Justin, this conversation is like, Hey, maybe you need to de-load a little bit or maybe you need to back off. Like, have you been going really heavy for really long and have you taken a day off or two in a while? Like, because they're fanatical about training. But everybody else, you know, most people haven't been that consistent for that long that it's necessary for them to take a day off. You're probably lazy. I mean, it's true. Yeah. More times than not, it's probably you're just being lazy. Is your body hurting? Do you have inflammation, joint pain? Is your sleep being interrupted? Are you noticing issues with cold and hot tolerance? Are you noticing health issues? And you probably need some time off. Otherwise, if you're just sitting there and you're thinking to yourself, Oh man, I got to work out, but I don't really feel like it. My body's not saying yes. Yeah. Am I being lazy? Yeah. You're probably being lazy, in which case, just get up and do my work. Well, I usually gauge that too, like when I start going into it and, you know, like start working out and I could feel like my whole body is just like pretty much not providing any strength or, you know, I just feel totally like I don't have it that day. I'll either stop after I've gone halfway through, which rarely happens, because for the most part, if I'm trying to consistently keep my body working out, you know, on a daily basis, I can fluctuate my intensity and I could actually provide recovery through that. And so for me to just, you know, take an entire day off and rest, to me, like I don't really do that anymore. We talked to, remember, we talked with Dr. Andy Gaplan about this, like maybe two or three years ago. And, you know, he even brings up the point that there's value in training when you maybe should even take the day off sometimes, right? Like when you didn't get great sleep and when you are a little stressed, occasionally doing that, it's the people that are gross offenders that really need to take that time off. Like if it's you are consistently lifting and you're not getting good sleep or you're consistently intensely driving your workouts to where you are so sore, the occasional of doing that or intermittently doing that actually has some value. I mean, that's, you're getting your body to adapt in like in a very stressful situation. I feel like you should know. I mean, honestly, I think if you're the kind of person that you tend to overdo things, you tend to be type A, you tend to really be consistent all the time, then you might need a day off. Everybody else tends to just be, I don't feel like it, I don't feel like doing it and maybe being a little lazy. That's the vast majority of people. Honestly, if you're asking yourself this question, if there's 10 people asking me this question, nine of them are being lazy, one of them actually needs a day off. Right, and to Justin's point, I think is why? Because even the person that probably, the one person that technically could take the day off, they also could go to the gym and just modify intensity. That's the best way to do it. You have to go light, go easy, stretch, focus on mobility, focus on... There's always something that you could do, whether it's restorative or it's just a totally different mentality you're bringing in to the gym or even at your house. You could be doing something active that provides recovery versus just trying to optimize my body by lifting weights. Next question is from Conor Nagel07. When should you cap off your caffeine consumption and how do energy drinks contrast with pre-workout? What does he mean by contrast with pre-workout? I think just the difference between the two, like pre-workout and energy drinks. The same difference. Yeah, let's start with the first part. So how do you know when you should cap off your caffeine intake? When the side effects of caffeine start to become a little pronounced. So when you notice that your anxiety is a little high, your jittery, you start to get really strong crashes. So you have your caffeine, you feel great. Good headaches. Then it hits, it drops off and all of a sudden you feel super unmotivated and you're feeling for more caffeine, heart arrhythmia, excessive palm sweating, sleep issues. I noticed TMJ issues as well. Do you? So yeah, I'm really grinding my teeth or I can just feel that tension start to kind of make its way from my jaw down to my neck even. Yeah, and this is very individual. People have different tolerances to caffeine. Their bodies metabolize it differently. Like my tolerance for caffeine is a lot lower than say Adams and especially Justin's, right? These guys can drink way more caffeine than I can and be fine. And for me, if I tried to match them, I would feel terrible. I might even get nauseous or sick. So you got to kind of feel this out for yourself. So I've noticed for me, anywhere between 250 to 400 milligrams in a day is about my peak. Well, don't you think that this is real? I mean, this is really hard for a lot of people to be able... I mean, you listed off a bunch of potential side effects, but the truth is most people won't notice those things because they'll have gradually moved their way up and their body will have adapted to that new milligram amount that they're now consuming. Yeah, but the side effects tend to grow. That's what tends to happen. Sure, they do, but they grow at such a slow pace in relation to the extra dosage of caffeine that they may not really notice those things that much. They're paying attention to when they feel better, which is when they're getting the caffeine. Right. And so for me, I've just decided that once I get to a point where I'm having more than two or three cups of coffee slash energy drinks slash pre-workout in a day, that's a lot. And I don't ever want to be a slave to anything. Even if I'm not getting like crazy adverse effects, even if I'm not getting TMJ, I'm not losing sleep at night, I just don't... I mean, and here's for financial reasons, like why spend the money on that much caffeine when I could cut it in half just by winging myself off for a week or two and then going back on and then now it affects me like it's brand new again. Make no mistake caffeine is a powerful drug. For all intents and purposes, you're looking at a substance that you build a tolerance to. It's got addictive, very powerful addictive qualities for people who are like, yeah, right, caffeine's not addictive. Okay, if you drink coffee every day, stop drinking it and see how you feel. You get very strong physiological negative effects. You get those effects of where your body needs it, it feigns for it. It might take you a week or two weeks to start to feel normal. Overdose on caffeine is very easy. I mean, very, very easy. 200 milligrams might be a normal dose for someone. Give them 1,000 milligrams and they might die, literally. Actually, in fact, I think a good percentage of them would probably die from 1,000 milligrams. So it's a very powerful drug. It's just one of those drugs in society that's super accepted. So we tend to... We don't treat it like a drug because... Anything that makes you productive is somewhat accepted. Funny though, that's how it is. I think of it like alcohol or like smoke and weed or like anything else. It is, it is. And so anytime any of those things creep into my life where I feel like, okay, it's taking more control of me than I have control of it, that's my signal to come off. All right, well, here's some hard recommendation. Here's some specifics. So I used to tell my clients, I used to tell my clients don't have any caffeine after about 3 p.m. Because for most people, even if you go to sleep, if they test you, it negatively affects your sleep if you drink it past 3 p.m. So that was a good control for people. They would drink coffee and then after 3 p.m. they would cut it off. If you find yourself needing coffee all day, like, okay, I need it in the morning to get started. Now I need it at lunchtime to keep going. Now I need it again. Now I need it because I'm going to go home and be around the kids and I need more caffeine. Then you probably need to wean yourself off. And here's a wonderful thing. If you wean yourself off and reintroduce it, lower doses now have an incredibly awesome effect on your body. Yeah, I've also found that really focusing on hydration and drinking more water has helped me in that transitionary period, too, because I would get really bad headaches if I was trying to lower the amount of caffeine. Because I would get myself up to a ridiculous amount and then try and pull myself back. And so that really helped in terms of providing more of that energy that lasts throughout the day, too. So it wasn't going for that second, third cup. I feel like you have to find your individual threshold on what dose is it difficult for you to come off of? And I treat, like I said, marijuana, I use Kratom every now and then. I have all these things that I've allowed that are considered would fall in that class of drugs, right? Even though I know Kratom's like an herb. But if it's something that the body can become addicted to, whatever amount is difficult for me to say, I don't want to have it for two or three days in a row, that's my amount. Like that's the my amount that I, that's my threshold. So somebody might be able to go all the way up to four, 600 milligrams of caffeine in a day and then go to zero for a week and not have any side effects. If that's it, then maybe that's you. Maybe you're fine with that. But other people like Sal gets up to 200, 250 milligrams of caffeine and then he goes to zero and he's got headaches and he's got problems with it. Like that's then my thresholds before that. Yeah, it takes a lot of self-awareness, doesn't it? Right, you gotta pay attention. It took me a long time to figure that out. I mean, I would take energy drinks and supplements and Fedra back in the day like it was, like it was water. Took me a long time to kind of figure this out. Now the difference between energy drinks and pre-workouts, energy drinks, lots of caffeine, pre-workouts, also lots of caffeine. Pre-workouts tend to have other compounds that have performance enhancing or muscle building type properties. So sometimes a pre-workout will contain creatine or they'll have beta-alanine or they'll have alpha-GPC or other compounds that help with specifically athletic performance. So like like Legion's pre-workout pulse, for example, it's got caffeine. So it's got the same amount of caffeine you may find in a really, really strong energy drink. But then it has all those other compounds that have like muscle building or performance enhancing type benefit. The truth is though, what you feel is the caffeine. Like most people, when you talk about pre-workouts and energy drinks, the thing that has all this list of all these crazy positive things that they throw in there so they can probably sell it for more, at the end of the day, the thing that you like the most. Oh yeah, you take the caffeine. Although I will say this, alpha-GPC, beta-alanine, somebody who doesn't take stimulants, so somebody who doesn't ever take caffeine, they'll feel that. They'll feel more focus and studies will support this, improve this. But if you're used to stimulants, it's the stimulant you want. That's what it is. Next question is from Warrior Monk Fitness. Is following your passion bad advice? You know, I love these broad recommendations or wisdom when they're like, follow your passion. How many times have you heard that statement on Instagram? You know, I think you're in trouble if you always follow your feelings or if you always follow your mind. I think you have to be able to do both. Always following your passion, you'll be chasing your feelings around all the time. Because it'll change too. And you may not be pragmatic. You may end up dating the wrong person because you're passionate about them. You may end up doing a job that doesn't really support you or your family very well because you're not being pragmatic. Your diet may be passion-driven, in which case you may not eat in the right way. Your workouts might be the wrong workouts. If you always... I think passion and emotion are important. It's part of what makes us human. But just following passion, I don't think that's a great message. I didn't think you guys were going to go this direction. I thought I was going to be the one that was going to challenge that. I thought you guys were going to be all pro, go for your passion. Pro-wise. You know, I guess that show I was talking to you about in the playbook, one of the coaches alluded to this and said, doing things like that, you are driven by your feelings. And it isn't always the most logical decision. Sometimes you feel passionate about something because it makes you find it's fun or you enjoy it. Or currently at this moment in your life, you have a feeling around it. And it's that feeling that drives that passion. And that may not always drive a logical decision in what you should be doing. And so actually being able to... And it's not also necessarily a bad thing either because hopefully whatever it is that you end up doing for the rest of your life, you're also passionate about it. It may be the spark that got you there. Right. But I know there's a lot of things in my life that I'm very passionate about today that I fell into because I was just open to doing a bunch of other things. And I think that this message for the generation kind of coming up now, being somebody who has had now what two, three generations that I've led underneath me and seeing like the Gen Z and... Millennials. Yeah, millennials coming up and how they're... This is like a very hot topic, like finding something that they're so passionate about. And they spent... Some of them spend so much time trying to find this passion. That they'll turn other things, opportunities away. Right. That's what I'm seeing. They don't do something. And part of that is like just getting yourself... And I mean, look, I actually did not believe... I did not actually love personal training that much. Like I liked personal training. I really did. But what I found in it was other things that I ended up really being passionate about. Like I was passionate about building a business. I liked numbers. I liked sales. I didn't even know that was part of that. But I found out that it was a big part of it which made me more passionate and fell in love with it. And then I got into leading trainers and thought, oh my god, I don't like personal training at all. I love leading trainers. And so sometimes you don't know if it's going to be something that you're going to be really passionate about. So turning away a lot of things because you're like, oh, I'm not really passionate about that. I don't feel very passionate about it. And so you don't do it. I think that's a silly way to live your life. Yeah, I think it's important to definitely don't turn away opportunities, get involved in these opportunities and find where that passion lies within that experience. And for me, it took a while to kind of figure that out, like what I really wanted to do. I did a lot of different types of jobs and it definitely eliminated a lot of directions that I thought I wanted to go in. But I was like, well, I don't like this industry. I'm not really driven towards this. That other job I had, there was a spark there. And so in terms of just waiting for that passion to present itself for you, I think that's not the message I would put out there. I think if you're seeking to have passion for something that's going to serve you for the rest of your life, I would say find passion in growth, because that'll always serve you. No matter what happens in your life, if you're passionate about growth, it means you're going to embrace challenge. It means that you'll view failure, which you will encounter in your life a lot. You'll view failure as a learning and growth process. I think that's a very smart way to look at things. I think if you run by passion on specific things, you're going to screw yourself. And to your point, Adam, about these generations coming up and having to find their passion, that's the result of a wealthy, easy, good society. I know some people are getting their feelings hurt right now because they think, oh, life is so tough or whatever. Okay, I'm talking about in comparison to how it's always been for people, okay? Go back to your parents, your grandparents, your great-pink grandparents. My great-grandfather didn't find a job that he was passionate about, you know? He did it because- You had to fight tooth and nail for an opportunity. Also, here's the deal. Passion, happiness, excitement, they feel great. They're wonderful, but that's not the key to success in life. The key to success in life is meaning, purpose. Those will always serve you. They do these surveys of people who have children and they compare them to people who don't have children. And it's so funny when articles are written about this, but you could tell there's a media bias constantly trying to convince people to not have children because you'll read that article titles and they'll say things like, couples who don't have kids are more happy. People who don't have kids have more fun. And so, if you just read the headline, you're like, wow, I'm not going to have any kids because people who don't have kids have less stress and they're more happy. Yes, that's true, but continue to read the study. People who have kids find more purpose and meaning in their life. Which one is more valuable? Ask any old person who's about to die or who's reaching the end of their life and they'll tell you it's meaning and purpose. So, passion, excitement, happiness- They're all fleeting. Those are great. Enjoy them, the real parts of life, but that's not what life is all about. So, although passion is a part of who you are and you should experience it, don't chase it and drive after it and make that your defining feeling because you'll be screwed, I promise you. You'll be fleeting. And I've worked with lots of people like this. I have worked with very talented people who were constantly chasing passion. And when they're young, it's okay. I'm moving from this thing, I'm doing this thing, I'm passionate, I'm bored. And now that they're in their 30s and 40s, they're not successful. They're in debt. Not happy. Not happy. Always looking for the next thing. Always looking for the next thing. So, you know- Well, you know what ends up happening is that something that you're so passionate about, you end up working in that industry and then you would find out there's so much more to it. And then all of a sudden that passion starts to fade away and then now you're stuck in this career that you waited so long to get into because you thought you had to be so passionate about it and then that all changed. It's always greener somewhere else. Here's a great example. Talk to any successful couple that's been together for 40, 50, 60 years, right? Talk to them about passion. When you first meet someone, you fall in love with them. Passion dominates the relationship. It's just all over the place. But how do you build a long-lasting partnership with the person? Those feelings change and go away and then you have this bond that is different than passion but way stronger and more powerful. And that's much more important. If you're always chasing passion, here's what will end up happening. You'll fall in love with someone. You become passionate. Passion starts to wane. Then you don't give the bonding a chance. You don't give the hard part, the part that's real important a chance. You end up leaving them. You go to the next person you feel passionate about. And that's a road to failure. It's a road to a poor outcome in life. So passion is good, but don't let that roll over. Don't lean on it. Absolutely. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video as well as audio. Come check us out on YouTube, Mind Pump podcast. You can also find all of us on Instagram. Oftentimes we check our DMs so you can ask us questions too. You can find Doug, the producer at Mind Pump Doug, Justin at Mind Pump Justin. You can find me at Mind Pump Sal and Adam, Mind Pump Adam. Number one though is to focus on recovery and healing. If you don't recover properly and get your body to heal properly, nothing we said will help. You'll be stuck on this hamster wheel of continued pain and injury and not being able to get back to where you were before. But keep in mind, muscle...