 Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101. So when you first, I'm a Birdman fan nigga, like top of the line Birdman fan. I seen him in a couple of places where he was out in the crowd, nigga. He don't mind getting out with his people. How did you and him meet and, you know, how did you all link up? Well, from learning on the track and old management, June Jones, they put me in the date. Like London was working on the Ritz gang, and I'm with a lot of thug and corn. So they, like, while they was working on that, they just brought me in like a, like a aloo, like just come on, brothers, come down. Like, and at first I was like, man, I don't know, bro. Like, I ain't really, you know what I'm saying? Like for me, this is, it's crazy. Like, I can't believe like, bro, y'all working with Birdman. Ah, you know what I'm saying? So I ain't gonna lie, nigga, I ain't nervous like, man. Nah, I ain't, I'm alive and I ain't, you know what I'm saying? You can't let them see you sweat? Yeah, like, nah, he wasn't even, that it was like, I ain't ready, bro. I don't, I ain't hurt, man, bro. So when they were like, nah, bro, come on. I'm like, all right, fuck it. So, you know, the first time I ever was around, we was at the studio and you know, and I was just kind of sitting back, listening to everybody watching, you know, like, damn this shit legendary. And then I went to Miami and they were like, I'm here, you know what I'm saying? So I woke up and I got involved. I started rapping. I'm in the studio every day doing 15 hours a day. Like, no, no, no games. Like literally every, wake up at one o'clock, leave the next day at one o'clock. Like type of shit. Work antics is gone, yeah. Yeah, so that, and it's true to him, what I hear about them, how they work a lot. Oh yeah, they working. I ain't no bulls, man. It's working. It's straight work. It ain't a vacation. At all. No, no, hell no. That's what I always would wonder, how can a man, okay, when you're on your grind and doing all that, working all those hours, especially if you have a family, kids at home and whatever, how do you balance all of that? I ain't gonna lie, it almost broke me once. You know what I'm saying? Like probably my third money, not being home. It probably, like I got a call from my son and he was like, dad, am I ever gonna see you again? Like you been gone too long. And it fucked me up. I dropped it too. I ain't gonna lie. Hell yeah. I'm like, damn man, am I doing the right shit? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know how sometimes you feel like you abandoning the one thing and chase one thing and I'm a man first, like I ain't gonna never abandon my children. How old was your son at that time? Oh, shit. I don't even know, like, when he was 11 now, I go back, what, five years? Probably four, five years, yeah. Okay, so he was old enough, he had to understand. Yeah, but he was missing in pops, man. You know what I'm saying? And if you had already been there and established that relationship and obviously you had to leave like that, that'll mess up. So I was all the way out of the normal, I wasn't able to do the shit I wanted to do. Nigga, we do the best we can, man. But I was at the, you feel me? And yeah, it fucked me up. It was like, damn man, I'm, and then you know, this the, I got the iPhone and shit I'm using. What the little else is, Google Duo or something. I'm FaceTime him on there. He's like, damn, I'm trying to be strong. So I'm like, boy. Stop all that crying. I'm like, you feel me? Soon as I was on the floor, right? Soon as I was on the floor, I looked at the studio and go, that'd be a drop. Oh yeah, damn, that's good stuff right there. And I went back in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Went back in. But you know, and all things were together for the good of them. They love God and called upon this purpose. I mean, you doing what you, you walking in purpose, man. Yeah, I'm fed. And that's the whole game. A lot of people don't realize that, man. You gotta do what, you know, I got a plan wrote out for everybody. You got to walk in your purpose. Yeah, you got to, man, I'm gonna get lost. That's right. That's not, that's some real talk. So when you was dealing with, and I'm gonna get off of this in a second. Did you ever learn in the slim when you was dealing with the, with the, with the? Oh yeah, hell yeah. He was, he was pretty much involved. Yeah, he, yeah. Good people ain't it? Yeah, man. Good nigga. God damn, like, when, when I seen both of them in there together, like I see Bird and I see Slim. I'm like, this shit, all right. Whoa. Same, man. Man. Everybody on me can get the seats on you. Yeah, man. I'm like, I'm sitting with them playing music. He fucking with my shit, like. Bro, I'm gonna tell you something. I'll be real with you, man. When I think about Bird, man and Slim, they're like my, the Jay-Z of the South or the, for me, you know what I'm saying? Like they, they paved the way them and Jay Prince for the South, man. And just when it first started to develop, I'm talking about Master P, all of these different guys, man. When you look at them, they patriarchs. I'm a older cat. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one.