 How old are you? 42. No way. Yeah, I'm not 25. Is he 42? I'm not 25. Yeah, 42. Oh my god, you look fantastic. Yeah, I know. I actually look younger now than when I started doing TikTok a couple of years ago. What changed? I have lots of better technology now. Better technology of making you look better or actually look being better? Both. Both. It's funny, there's some cheat codes in life. We should discuss them, that taking care of yourself, your mind, and your body, age and reverse. Exactly. Yeah, I'm all about transforming from the inside. And then it shows on the outside. It's not like people who just do cosmetic surgery and then they're actually really sick. I love that. I love it. You're like my Asian brother. Yeah, Asian brother from another mother. Absolutely, and from another country. Yeah, that's right. I like my Canadian people, though. Yeah, so tell us more about your story. I read a little bit about it, but maybe you can hear from yourself. Well, I did it the hard way. I go about life, so I did everything outside in. So I would try to cultivate this amazing life by working really, really hard and partying and just going about the world with a chip on my shoulder and just trying to drink the poison and expecting everybody else to die and just figured that if I just grid it and bear it and just grind as hard as I could, that I would be successful. And I achieved pretty good monetary success, but I was a miserable, miserable person and I hit the proverbial ceiling where it's like, this isn't working, what am I going to do? And the one constant in my life that kept coming up was alcohol. And it's like, okay, I don't believe I have a problem with it, but definitely every time there's an issue, alcohol is present, I'm gonna take a little break from it. So I took a little break and I took a longer break and then I took a permanent break. And ever since I've done that, my vibrational energy has changed so tremendously that everything in my life is getting better and better and better. And I just started doing this thing like called harder than life where I said, hey, let's do some, let's face our fears and then live our dreams. And this all started with childhood trauma. I mean, my parents were just terrible, terrible people. They did the best they could with what they had, physical and emotional abuse, you name it, it happened to me. It's in my book, Harder Than Life, where I basically said, they abused me as a child and it was not right. And in today's society, they would probably be in jail, but you can be a victim or a victor and I choose to be the victor. And they didn't do everything, was it bad? There were some good things. They taught me hard work and determination and that grit to overcome any odds, anything. Like as a matter of fact, when things go bad is when I start doing my work, not. I'm really interested to learn more from you because I am fascinated by the world's vibrational energy and about the secret and how we can manifest things. I think I do it pretty well, but I'm a student of the game and I'm a learner at all. And I wanna know more and more and more because no matter how much work you do, doing the work, you can always get better and you still tend to slip here and there. There's certain days that I'm on my point and there's certain days I'm not. And I think it's the vibrational energy of the universe and it has to be something internally. So I'm a big, I've flipped that everything on its head and the heart of the life means to me is I'm gonna vibrate well internally and it's an inside out happiness job versus an outside in job. So that was a two minute overview of 47 years of craziness. I do it with still a lot of brute force and a lot of I'm working better and better and better at surrendering and allowing the universe to do its magic. And I really do believe everything happens for me, not to me, there's certain days where I can sit back and go, whoa, somebody is really something or somebody is really looking out for me. So that's my story in a quick two to three minutes. Right. Well, that's a great story. It's very inspiring. I think there's a lot of people listening to this or watching this that want to know, like what is the thing that helped you to get through what you did, especially people who had, who suffer with addiction, alcoholism, or had trauma from their childhood or from the past. What do you think would be the key thing that helped you through it? Well, I got sick and tired of being sick and tired. I didn't hit rock bottom. I wrote about it in my book, Heart and Life. I did not hit rock bottom. I did not get a DUI. I didn't beat my girlfriend or wife. I didn't, nothing bad happened. I just got sick and tired of being hungover and looking for my cars, spending all the money, all the collateral damage that I didn't think was that big of a deal. You know, most of us, when you're in the thralls of something, you don't know a contrast. You don't know what life is like without alcohol. You don't know what calmness is, what freedom is, what lack of chaos and just, and I just knew that my life was destined for something better. And the only thing that was holding me back was the only toxic behavior that I had and it was alcohol. Now, it wasn't like I would drink one drink and then that spiraled into 30 and I'd fall down and sleep in a gutter. It just was, you know, every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, I just, I teed it up. And then that would be into Wednesdays, I having a cocktail while I'm cooking dinner with my daughter and it just, life wasn't fulfilling. And I got a newsflash for him, four and a half years saying no to drinking. I was right. There's a hell of a mother world out there of massive success and massive winning when you say no to toxins. And then I started getting addicted to winning. So I'm like, what else can I do? So I started reading a ton. I read a book a week. No, true reading, an actual book, not listening to audio books. I actually read it and not knocking audio books. If you're gonna better your mind. I'll take a copy of mine. I please do. I'll send you one of mine. I didn't know about it. I'm getting to know you and I think we're gonna be fast friends. And I, you know, as you, I've gone down this personal development journey. I am meeting so many like-minded individuals. You know what all I knew was partiers before. So I really wanna help people and show that there's another way and model and inspire the type of life that I think everybody wants to live. I really do. I didn't grow up thinking, hey, I'm gonna party and be the A1 rock star of the year just happened. And then until I got tired of it, and I stopped it and most people can't stop. Did you find that one of the things you had to change Westview or associations with other people that were also like partying and drinking a lot? David, I changed everything. The only thing that stayed the same in my life and even that I enhanced was working out. I always, I used to justify, we're great as humans to justify our behaviors and our decisions. I used to justify my drinking and anything really with, hey, I work every day and I work out every day. And as long as I did those two things, I gave myself the ability to do whatever and rationalize any stupidity, stupid behavior, toxic decisions. And luckily, none of it ever really bit me in the butt. So yeah, you redefine everything in your life where you're just masking or you're just delaying the inevitable. So most of my friends did stick around, even the partiers, turns out I'm weird. I'm just as crazy sober as I was ever drinking. And what I was trying to create, and this is why it's so hard for people to put their hands around, I'm just weird the way I do things. I do think everything in my life backwards. So I begin with the end in mind and I work it backwards. So what was I trying to do? I'd go to a therapist and he'd say, quit drinking. And then what happened was I quit drinking and then I felt all my feelings. People usually feel their feelings and start drinking and then quit drinking. I did everything in reverse. And then all of a sudden the way the world came, I mean, I realized why I started drinking in the first place. And once I was able to realize why I started, it was easy to stay stopped. And it just turned out that once I addressed the childhood trauma and the wounds and becoming the person that I drank, so I would fit in. And when I realized that I'm never gonna fit in because I'm different and weird and I love being different and weird, I love going down the road less traveled because it's harder and it's the road less traveled for a reason. That's why I named it harder than life. I am harder than life. So the first year or two, I lost a lot of friends. And then as they realized I was gonna, this was the course I was going and they realized that I'm still the same guy, many of them came back. Now, people that are really enthralled in the grasp of alcoholism, they don't wanna be around me because it's a mirror and you know, like attracts like and people don't wanna see somebody else doing better because it just exacerbates them. I still show up for those people because my goal, the harder than life brand is to raise money for charity to pay three different charities. One of them is an addiction resource center. And I like showing people the impossible is possible. And every single day I inspire one person to at least look at their nature of the association with alcohol. Now, I also am a big fitness guy. So we have a fitness app coming out. So look for that soon. And you know, they kind of go one hand in hand. I believe physical fitness, doing that on a regular basis gets your mind right to be able to vibrate at a high level and then say no to a lot of the toxins. Now, remember alcohol is only one toxin. There's cannabis, there's scrolling on social media, there's doing household chores, anything that keeps you from feeling your feelings. And I got a newsflash for them, feeling is healing. So if you just sit in your shit, sorry to swear, but if you sit, it sounds funny when you say sit in your shit, it actually calms down because as you become experienced in something, you realize, oh, it's not really that bad. It's just life is, and it just, David, I ask people this, how good can you handle life? If you want to experience life at a really high frequency, follow these couple of things I tell you to do. And they're not, it's not proprietary to seagull to me. It's very simple things. Let's work out every day, let's move our body, let's be grateful, let's journal, let's say no more than we say yes, and just protect your peace at all costs and love yourself from the inside out. A lot of times when I get out of alignment, you'll see me walking around, tapping my heart. And it's just a visual reminder center myself, seagull, center myself. And I get out of alignment here and there and it just brings me right back. And I love everything and it just keeps getting better and better and better. It's a good practice section. Helps you calm down, helps you center, helps you get more in touch with your heart because people don't have that mind-heart connection. They lose that. Well, what do they say the heart beats the brain? They basically laugh. I'm like, no, bring it back to your brain. Your brain is smart, it knows what it is, but as you said, the body, everything is reverse. It goes back up to the brain and I just, I think the little sun-esque thing over your shoulder is how I feel about my heart. I believe that there is something emanating from my heart that is energy, that is coming through this computer screen and going to you. Do you feel it? Oh yeah, I feel it. Well, you know you can measure that, right? Your heart has a- Oh, tell me. Everybody's heart has a electromagnetic field and with the device, you can actually measure it out 20 feet. Mine goes farther than 20 feet, I'm Superman, come on now. Well, that's just the measurable field. There's also the scalar or the quantum energy that comes out, that goes infinitely, right? But we haven't discovered the technology to measure that yet, but we can measure the effects of it. For example, you can pray for somebody and somebody will be healed, right? Yeah, you can measure the effect, the person's getting healed, you can measure that. But you can't measure the energy coming out of yourself. But what's the device that we use to measure the part that we can measure? It's just an electromagnetic field meter, it's a highly sensitive one. So you can measure that energy field about 20 feet. But there's different kinds of energy that come from your body, right? There's lots of different kind of frequencies. There's actually light frequencies, infrared frequencies coming out from your hands and from your face, biophotons, so they can actually measure light particles coming out of your body, okay, does that? There's also the electromagnetic, so it's a magnetic field, same as the magnetic field from Earth, it's like a gravity field, okay, that's coming out. And then there's also number three is the scalar energy or we call the quantum energy field, which actually goes faster than light. That's how the psychics are able to use their abilities. Do you believe in psychics? Yeah, of course. I think we're all psychic to a certain level, right? I mean, how many times have you thought of a person and he texted you? Or how many times have you dreamt of something and it happened? Maybe these ones are twice in your life and you can't explain how to happen, right? So every one of us has some kind of psychic ability and some people have it stronger than others, I think. Wow, I don't know more. What is it that you do for your day job? Well, I'm a founder, I'm a health tech founder, so I've developed these coils called Chi-Coils and I used to be in software development, so I also developed software which has 10,000 programs. So everybody's talking about how do you get in a high frequency? How do you get into a frequency of abundance? How do I attract abundance? How do I manifest things? Well, did you know that there's actual specific frequencies for those things, right? And how do you get in those frequencies? Probably doing what I recommended, meditation, journaling. Yeah, well, this is like that except you don't have to put in any effort, right? Meditation, you have to sit down, meditate, focus and breathe and stuff, which is great. We all need to do that, but I created technology that I could do it automatically. So you can have one of these coils in the background, these are actually pretty big, two by two feet and this covers the whole house. It actually sends measurable electromagnetic fields based on the frequencies we develop to help people meditate or help people get sober or help people with trauma, help people focus or be more creative or problem solvers in their business. So there are no coincidences in this world. How in the heck, and forgive me, as we talked about before we hit record on this, we found each other by some weird electro field. Where do you order one of these and what do they cost? You can order it from my website, she-lifestore.com. They start from 400 bucks all the way up to 24,000 if you want a huge setup for your whole house. That's insane, that's so awesome. But let's just go back to my story so you can learn more. Thank you. I asked every reverse. I told you I was weird. I start with the end. What did you do and now how do we go backwards? Go ahead. Yeah, so I was a chronically sick for 10 years and I had a digestive disorder, ulcerative colitis. So you're bleeding internally every day. It's so bad that I can't even leave the house because I was bleeding, I had to go to the bathroom every 20 minutes. So I was stuck there for 10 years because of depression. I did a really bad business deal. My mentor at the time, I lost a quarter million dollars to him because I thought he was going to help me make money but ended up being just a calm man. Stole all my money, I went to depression and then that made me sick. So for 10 years, I had chronic fatigue, brain fog and I was lost weight, like crazy and had these dark circles in my eyes that I couldn't get rid of and had skin problems and all that, so it was not pretty. But then I kind of hit a point in my life, kind of like you, whereas I just got really tired and sick of living like that. And I said, God, this gotta be a better way. And the way that I kind of went was, okay, I'm gonna do more meditation now. I want to explore this spiritual world that everybody's been talking about. And that led me to frequencies and that led me to some actual coils in technology that supposedly was going to help you meditate better and get into deeper meditations. So I did that, actually make my own coils and experiment with them. I got those deeper meditations but what ended up happening was I healed myself in 90 days. So I was using this frequency for my guts which actually reduced the inflammation instantly. And in 90 days, I had no more ulcerative colitis. So this is something that's completely incurable. All the doctors that I went to, all the experts said, okay, I take this medication, this medication, this medication, none of them work and they're expensive. And they gave me side effects and I was able to cure it by myself at home just using this device without any pills, no surgery, not changing my diet dramatically. And so I said, there's people out there that need this because no longer was I sick but I heal my emotional and mental health as well because I was not depressed anymore. Now I was focused, I was motivated. I built this business, it's five or six years now. We have customers and clients all around the world. We have doctors and chiropractors and surgeons using all our technology. We're actually using our technology now in schools to help kids with ADHD and autism. And we're getting results nobody else can get, okay? These experts, these counselors come to their class and they say, how are you gonna get, how do you get these kids with autism? Which we couldn't get to even talk in years. And now they're in front of the class leading the classroom, doing social emotional learning. It's unheard of and we did it in four months. So that's another thing we're using the frequencies for is to help kids learn but we can use it for adults too. So that's slowly transformed my life. I had a new purpose, I knew mission, I had a new business and it's doing very well now. So that's completely transformed. So that's kind of my story. Did you, so it sounds a lot like Dr. Joe Dispenza but Joe Dispenza is all about the meditation and really releasing and getting into the quantum. It sounds like yours is very, very similar. It's just his is done through meditation is you're saying yours is done through an app or through the coils. I don't understand that a little bit. Through the coils and through your frequencies. For example, like I can play one. So there's the different levels of frequencies, right? There's the sound, right? I'll play one for you. And you can hear how it sounds like. It's really, really weird, but just relax and listen to it. This is great, dude. I love this, thank you. I'm fascinated. Yeah, so for example. And how do I get access? Do I pay a monthly? So this is just a trip, man. It's creepy, right? How long do you have to listen to it for? 15 to 30 minutes. Yeah, 15 to 30 minutes. And you could you recommend sit there and meditate or you just have a playing in the background with it. So so you can be passive or active. It doesn't matter because that's affecting you while you're listening to it, right? So do you do is this an app that you pay for a monthly fee or is it a? Yeah, we have an app. But the main thing comes in a tablet, right? With all our frequencies. So when you get a system that comes with the coils, it comes with the tablet, right? Comes with, you know, the whole kit and everything. And like I said, there's different levels. So you've got the sound frequencies. So you're listening to those. And then when you put the sound into the coils, they become invisible and they become magnetic, okay? So like if you put this in front of you, you've got this energy field and you have just sit in front of it. So you can, but we're working, you can do doing a podcast and you can have these playing or broadcasting throughout your house. Well, what's, I'm sorry. I'm just, I'm just, I'm so fascinated. You, you've got, first of all, how did we find each other? Because this is, this is divine. Did you find me on Instagram? Yeah, I was just reaching out to you through Instagram. Oh, that's awesome. What's the website? I just, I, this did, I don't believe there are coincidences. What's the website? G live store. So qilifstore.com. I am fascinated. Yeah. So yeah, we're, you know, we're same concept as Joe Dispenza. The only thing is we do it with technology. I mean, people say, well, you don't need technology. I can just meditate. Yeah, you can. But this is, we'll make it easier for you to meditate. Does it get you- Say that one more time. I put G, G-E-Y? Q-Y, Q-Y live store. You spell Q as Q-I? Q, I kept hearing G, sorry, Q-I live store.com. Yeah. Wow. We're gonna have to have you on the Hot In A Life podcast. This is, this has got to be shared with people. Where'd you come up with this? As I said, I self healed and I have an engineering background. So I'm kind of fascinated with frequencies. I'm also a musician. So like, you know, when I experiment with the frequencies, I kind of have a, I know what their works are not. And I kind of get the feeling really fast. And I get the effects really fast. Like some people can listen to this stuff for a long time, not get a feeling until like many days later. But I'm one of those really highly sensitive people. Maybe you are too. Where you can just listen to something or when you step into the room, you can really feel the energy immediately or you feel the energy from people very quickly. So I have that ability. Because I study Qigong meditation as well, right? This is, wow. How come it isn't blown up? What's holding you back from, you know, like Joe Dyspen is huge. He's a monster. How is, why am I just hearing about this? And how is it not blowing up? Look how young you look with Jim Quick. That's great. How come it hasn't blown up? It is blowing up. Just need to get this out there more. Yeah. I'm fascinated. What do you do with the coils? Like the little one, I see the little small ones, 399. What do you do with the coils? Do you just say, yeah, that one. What do you do with that? It's the same as the other ones. So you can, this has a three-feet range. So you can just put it near you or you can wear it or you put in your pocket while it's connected. And you got the energy with you all the time. So you can bring it out. You know, when you drive your boat or drive your car, you can have it with you and get that energy all day. What does QI stand for? Chi. Chi is Chinese for life force. Yeah. Right, we said Chi. Yeah, they spelled it a Q. Got it. Fascinating, man. I don't know. I'm so glad we met. Yeah, definitely. Tell me about like, where'd you grow up? I grew up in Canada. I was born in Hong Kong and moved there when I was four. So it's been, yeah, Vancouver, Canada. What moved you? Why did your parents move from Hong Kong to Canada? Because the communists. Lots of people did. Lots of people did, right? When, you know, in the 80s, there's a lot of Hong Kong people came to Canada or Australia or UK because they wanted to escape the economists. Because you're 2000, when they were going to hand over Hong Kong back to China, right? I just read, hold on, let's pray with me, this book. Then Enmy Park about while time remains and she talked about how she escaped North Korea then to go to China to be sold as a sex slave and then somehow made it to the United States. And she talks about the contrast of the United States versus North Korea and how we as Americans, you know, have such entitlement and how we think that like the internet going down and how horrible it is when these guys didn't even have foodie. So that's kind of what I try to preach like creating heaven on earth every day in your mind. Because then it becomes a reality. Yeah. Is that kind of what you went through? Well, it's not just that dramatic. I mean, you know, Hong Kong was still under UK rule. So they were still under a democratic process at that time, right? So I didn't have to go through that. But we escaped that, right? Because right now, since it's taken over in last few years, there's, you know, they've been suppressing and people in Hong Kong and now it's basically China. Now it's communist now. Do you believe that China's trying to, I mean, I'm not trying to make this political, but I just am fascinated by everybody and their beliefs and how everybody, you know, the Americans here, like especially Trump was like China, this, China, that. Do you believe that China is trying to take over the world? I don't think they necessarily are trying to. They're just doing their best to be the very prosperous country. And then I think every country should just do the same thing, right? I mean, they're just doing what they can do, you know, in technology and whatever they think their policies are going to be in order to be a prosperous country. So I think, you know, whatever works for them, right? So, and there's a lot of things that we can learn from them and a lot of things that we should not do that they're doing. I think, you know, there's a lot of things that they can learn from Americans, which they did. That's why they're prosperous now, right? I mean, like 30 years ago, you don't have this manufacturing, you don't have this branding, you don't have this like huge, you know, superpower, but they learned from the Americans and now they have it, right? So, and they change everything, they update everything. I mean, just 30, 40 years ago, so many people were living in farms and real areas, they're still cooking in like stone stoves and stuff like that. There's a lot of people, there's still people like that now, but they were able to increase the average salary of the Chinese citizen dramatically over the last 30 years. What made you stay in Canada and not move to North America or, you know, the United States? Excuse me? What made you? I don't know exactly why we move here in the States. I'm not really sure, but I'm glad we did because in Vancouver, we have lots of scenery, lots of, you know, we have the ocean right next by, we have the mountains, we have the trees, we have all the beautiful scenery here and we have, you know, pretty good weather now. Is it Whistler there? Yeah, Whistler is a world-famous resort, ski resort. It's only two hours away, so it's very convenient. So we have all the scenic attractions and green trees, you know, tall evergreens. We have the rivers, we have the, but the only thing that we don't have that the States have would be maybe the water, some of the water is probably a little bit cleaner. I mean, not cleaner, but like prettier looking. Is this coil system, are you seeing it ship internationally everywhere? And if so, and the answer is probably yes. Where is it mostly shipping to the United States? Yeah, mostly the United States, California, Texas, Florida, those are main States. Wow. In case they get it, they get the frequencies, right? So they know that this stuff is going to transform them. And then how can me and the Heart of the Life brand support you? Well, you can be an affiliate if you like, or we can do a podcast, and we can talk about this to your group. We also just started a charity called Chi Life Foundation. And that is to support kids' education with learning disability, and also to help them heal non-invasively. So with just frequencies without, you know, the conventional drugs and medications and surgeries. I'd imagine this works pretty well for kids that are quote unquote diagnosed with ADHD. Yes, yes, definitely. We've had results, we know it works already. We've done, we've used it in classrooms and we have the results of them before and after. So before we had these kids, 26 of them, they're the lowest performing, they're Q1. So lowest 20% performing. They couldn't even count to 20. They couldn't write the alphabet. All right, that's how bad it was. So after four months using our frequencies and we have a learning system called a bright learning system which teaches them how to do a specific way of doing math. Now they're performing a top 99% in the States. So their math scores went from the worst and now their math scores in the top 1% in the nation. Do you have a case study of this? Exactly, I'll just talk to you. I mean, I just told you about this case study. This is the case study. Why not? Would you have it in documents? Yeah, so go to, it's on frequencymethod.com. So you can see the charts there of what we'd be able to do. So these kids who couldn't do, who couldn't, you couldn't even approach. So some of these autistic kids, you can't even approach them, they'll scream. And now they are leading the class classroom. They are teaching the classroom, which is unheard of. And we're able to, so these are second graders, right? We started with them. They were doing math at a sixth grade level after four months. So they're beating all the regular kids even. That's why there's a book that's coming out. It's called Solved ADHD and Autism, Transforming Disability to Genius. So we're literally able to transform disability, what they label with disability, we transform them into geniuses because they're doing better than the regular kids at school. But I'm on this frequencymethod.com and it doesn't say anything about what, it's just an advertisement for. That's the landing page. So I'll send you the, if you go inside, you know, if you opt in, there's a page there. Oh, to give before I enter the email address. Okay, sorry, I didn't, I was slipping through it. That's just fascinating to me. Everybody in the world needs to know about this. They do, yeah. So that's why we have the charity and we're, you know, we're taking donations for people who want to support this cause. What else? So I've read a ton about Joe Dispanza. I've read all of his books and he talks about curing cancer. So have you any case studies about that? Yeah, we have a cancer success stories on our website, True Life Story. We go to a reviews page. There's about six people who were had success with our technology with cancer. But as a disclaimer, we can't claim or that she calls our healing devices or medical devices, but we can show you the stories. So it's on the reviews page. So we've have success with those people with cancer. We have, it works really well with pain management, stress relief, sleep, energy, levels. Yeah, it's all there. I, you know, even if it's, what do they call that? Where you're placebo, even as a placebo effect. Who gives a cramp? If it's better, if they feel better and it cured, who cares how you get that? Well, I think we went beyond that. We know it's not placebo. So, but yeah, even if it is, then whatever results, you know, is important, right? Not, yeah. Results matter, dude. That's all that matters in the world. Really it's, are we winning or are we not? Man, I don't know how I've never heard of you before. I'm loving this. I wish I would have done a deep dive. So, I mean, it's your recording, but there's so much I'm gonna look into. And then I'll have you on the Heart of the Life podcast and we'll ask all kinds of questions. Like I just, I'm just fascinated by this. I can go down a rabbit hole. It's actually quite a lot. I've been working on this for many years, right? So there's so many videos. There's always one initial thing. Like, I got to work it out because my stepfather was abusive. And I was like, I'm gonna get big enough so he can't, what was the one thing that you, they said, besides your sickness, what was the one thing where you're like, there's just gotta be something different? I know I wanted to be someone who makes a big difference in the world. Someone who people can say, hey, you know, have you heard David Wong? He's making things happen in the world and he's making changes. I want that. And you're the owner? Yeah, I'm the founder, yeah. How long do you think it takes, or how long do you recommend people? It's a word I'm trying to say. How long would I have to use this thing for before I notice a difference? 21 days. 21 days. This is insane. You gotta send me the low end one before I have you on the podcast because if I have a little bit, the only thing in my life that's not great is my sleep patterns. For some reason, I get up two, three times a night. I fall asleep, no problem, probably because I go so crazy during the day. I fall asleep well. Then I wake up two or three times and I'm just not rested. Well, that's easy. We have sleep frequency. I use it every night. It works for amazing. It gets your mind to shut down and also gets you deeper sleep. So there's actually exactly what you need. Yeah. And then in 21 days, if this thing's better, I'll get you on the podcast. I'll put you all over my freaking social media. Because I'm one of those guys. That's why I'm so loud. I want everybody to feel like I do. But frankly, the only problem I have in my life is not sleeping restfully. I'm gonna just keep telling people, hey, this is my cheat code. I'm gonna share it with everybody. So if it works, which I have no doubt it does, I just never heard of it. So I wanna help. Yeah. We can get that happening for you. I'll email you my address and it's, I've been looking through all this, like you have amazing reviews. There's nothing, usually you can find something that says anything, but go look at my reviews. You can see everybody's like, he takes steroids. He's wrong about this and you can't do that. And it's impossible to quit drinking the way he did. Like, you know, I already said I was weird. I do things weird. I'm just, results matter, man. And I love it. But there's nothing, I can't even find one negative report on you. Well, because it's working. I love it. I love it. Do you do any meditation anymore or no? Yes, every day. Yes. I do. I do boxing. I'm a martial artist. I saw the martial artist. I saw that. Yeah. Are your parents still alive? Yes. They're healthy. And they live nearby? Yeah. My mom's here, my dad's in Hong Kong. So you're killing it at life, loving it and everything. What's your, what's next for you? What's next? Well, we have a charity. So that should be established in a couple months. So we're gonna, we're going to focus on that. Once that's ready and then start raising funds and doing charity events to help these kids. And research. Have children? No, yes. Well, we gotta get started. They're fun. We have dogs. They're like children, but they just don't freaking talk back. Well, I would argue I can look at my dog's face and know what the heck he's thinking. Yeah, you're psychic then. Great. Maybe he's just crazy like me. Yeah. That's funny. That's funny. What else can we talk about? They're interesting. Well, you know, ask anything you want. What is this other light thing that's over your right shoulder? Well, it might be your left. I can't know the other one. The blue thing is that? This one? Yeah, that. That's the, that's the tablet with the- It looked like a tablet. I wasn't sure. So, so actually, since we're talking about this, so we actually have 10,000 programs in here. And we have Dr. Rife's frequencies. Have you heard of Dr. Rife, R-I-F-E? No. He was a doctor from 1930s and he used a new invention with frequencies to cure 14 cancer people with just frequencies. So he cured them completely. They were terminally ill. And he just treated them like three minutes a day for a few days, a few weeks. Is this Royal Rife? Yeah, Royal Rife. And- You need googling more things. It's not very often that I get stumped. You have me googling everything. I love it. I don't even know what to say. I've lost my words. So since he invented this technology, it's called the Rife machine. They, basically the government or Big Pharma, they burned down his lab, stole all of his equipment and his research and then they literally killed him. Well, not literally, but very creatively because they put him into depression and he drank himself to death. So that could be kind of related to your experience. But since then, people have been able to use his frequencies that he's discovered. And how it worked was he found the frequencies for every disease almost. So every disease has a frequency. And like for example, this cancer virus that he's working with, he found the frequency of it. He played it and then it made the virus explode without harming good cells in the body. So he created targeted frequencies to target cancer cells in the body and make them implode or explode. So break that down for the neophyte people. I know that everything is energy and how kind of like, it's almost like a small big bang theory is what he's saying. So break that down for lay users of how you use energy to affect other energy. Okay, well, you know, when you've heard, you've seen people opera singers sing and then make a glass shatter, right? Yes. So how that works is everything has a resonant frequency. And when you can hit that note, it makes a shake so violently that it breaks or explodes. So same thing happens on a microscopic level. If you know the resonant frequency of a cancer virus or cancer cell, you can play it and make it shake so much that it's gonna explode. And it's only gonna affect that cell because it has a specific frequency. So it won't harm the good cells in your body. So if that's true, then what if we found the frequencies for all the diseases, right? And that's exactly what we have. We found them already. So now we can use these frequencies from the software, just type in any condition and then you'll be able to play those frequencies for whatever condition you want. Sorry, you have me looking away because I've just went down a rabbit hole, WebMD and the Rife thing. They say there hasn't been any proof that it works, but then there's a way out. You know that's BS, right? Keep going down in the same article. And it says here, another review found that some types of electromagnetic waves can stop tumor growth. That to me is accepted as saying it does work. Yeah. But this is in WebMD, this is insanity. Well, it's interesting because five years ago, all the articles you say, oh, it's a scam, it's quackery, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Five years later, now we have all these like at WebMD and AH with lots of research articles and reports saying, yeah, electromagnetic frequencies, some of them say fight cancer, fight tumors and the whole starts with other things. So this is the emerging, this is the emerging. So finally after 80 years that they assassinated this guy, the medical community is starting to say, this actually works. So you know the guy lived till he was 83. So 83 back in, let's see, what year was he? No, well, he died in 1971. So 83 years in 1971 was pretty frickin' good. Yeah. But he went to Johns Hopkins University. Guy was married for, but she died very early on. I mean, this is just, you got me going on a rabbit hole. I tell everybody, you know, this is your recording, but I highly suggest you go on a rabbit hole. I'm a naysayer as naysayers can be. I need to be proven with data, but I've already seen enough here that I'm interested that I want to figure it out. I'm going to take it and try it. And when it works, I'm going to help you in every way, shape, or form, because I want to pay it forward. This is fascinating because, you know, I understand why just, and I'm going to say it in my words, and I'm going to be your infomercial. The reason why this doesn't, isn't backed by so many people's because it doesn't make millions of dollars, billions of dollars like big pharma watts. It's much more beneficial for them to do chemo that doesn't frickin' work at all because they can frickin' make hell of a lot more money versus a $400 machine. Right, they make money with treatments, not cures. Correct. Correct. Wow. Who are you and where did, how'd you get in my computer? I love it. I'm going to read all of this and then when I have you on the podcast, I have every deep down questions for you, but so far I'm usually a skeptic like there's no tomorrow and you've made a believer out of me and I am, the way I grew up, I don't trust anybody or anything. I've gotten better at it as I've gone down the path of feeling, but I guess I would say I do trust a lot more people now until they show me not to, but your little innocent looking face and all of this data. Usually, you know how social, or not even social media, you know how Google works. Usually it shows you the negative ones right up top, especially the way the algorithms work. The algorithms aren't wanting to show you. Like I open Instagram right now, it'll show me all of the negative reviews or all of the negative comments doesn't show me any of the positive ones. I click into the comments to get the positive ones because negativity sells. Negativity creates things, keeps me in the act. So if there was something negative here, I would, it would have come up. So funny, life's best kept secrets. Yeah. So how would somebody follow you or to learn more about you? Well, we have an easy website, harderthanlife.com. Harder Than Life, just spell it all out. .com, I do motivational keynote speaking. We have a podcast, Harder Than Life, available on YouTube, Spotify and iTunes. We have interesting guests on weekly. I'm gonna get you on. It's so popular, we're booked till November and then it's two months after that till it gets on. So it's blowing up. I have a book out called Harder Than Life. I think the next book, since I've kind of made this look easier, it will be called Easier Than Life. And if this, when this machine works and shows up and life gets better, then all I gotta do is tell everybody to order the machine. Yeah. And it's just, everything else is Kelly Siegel. Kelly.Siegel.71 on Instagram and Kelly.Siegel on all other things. And Siegel spelled S-I-E-G-E-L, little weird, but as I said, I was weird. But life is really, really good. I tell everybody, if they do the things that I do, how good can you handle life? And then I always try to figure out what we can do to raise the vibration a little higher and a little higher and a little higher. And I think it's weird that this was scheduled. We've been on my schedule now for a couple of weeks and I was just talking to people this morning about vibrational frequencies and here you are. There are no coincidences in this world. And when you need to hear something, it appears. So allow it into your life. A lot of people spend so much time. I say, what we resist persists. If you look back at hindsight is 2020 because we should have listened to it. And it keeps, God keeps presenting this to you and we just keep ignoring it. We'll be so stubborn. That's where the Dr. Joe Spendlis talks about getting rid of your ego. The ego is there to protect you. And sometimes you don't need protection. Sometimes you just need to listen and surrender and allow the universe to do its work. Right. Yeah. And that's what I think your biggest is. All right, well, thank you so much for your time and looking forward to talking to you real soon. I'm gonna send you back my address. Send me your text or send me your cell phone because I'm gonna have all kinds of questions and I'll just text you. I work great on text and if I get obnoxious just say Kelly, I need boundaries, boundaries. Okay. All right. So thank you very much. And that was the Chi-Li podcast. If you need to learn more, click the links below on the description to get ahold of Kelly here. All right. Use the Chi and prosper.