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The opinions expressed are necessarily those of the speakers. General Wood, a great many GIs will remember you as the courageous commander of the Fourth Armored Division, which slept across France and into York during World War II. Since then, we understand you've been with the International Refugee Organization in Austria and have watched our foreign policy work at close range firsthand. I wonder, could you tell us, as a close observer, is our Marshall Plan and our foreign policy being administered wisely in Europe? Well, sir, I can't, of course, speak as an expert because I've been in Europe too long, but I have been close to it for five years to all the developments in Austria and formally in Germany. Well, do you believe that we ended the Marshall Plan program too soon? Did we see on the economies, the civilian economies, on the countries? I think the Marshall Plan funds made possible a tremendous improvement in the European economy. Did we stop this? And that the standard of living improved. I think the change over to the direct or more direct military expenditures and the lessening of the increase of prices during the Korean War and also perhaps the lessening of the funds spent has created difficulties among the population of Europe. Well, don't you feel, sir, that the creation of military expenses in Europe by the United States was necessary? I think any steps taken to improve our defenses are necessary. I think that we perhaps are a little more frantic and frenzied in our apprehensions about Russia than we need to be. I don't think the Russians are going to make a direct military move in West Europe. I never have thought so all the time I've been there. And why are we building an army there? I think the purpose of our building defenses in Europe is to bolster their strength and to harden them and to increase their spirit of resistance and it may be that those things are useful. General Wood, you of course are aware of the fact you've been out of the country a long time but this is an election year and it's a particularly important election year to our people and our listeners are sort of searching their souls to see whether we have spent too much now in Europe or whether we are overreaching ourselves as a nation. Now in your opinion, we as a nation can take some pride and satisfaction in our Marshall planned expenditures. You've said that that's been a proper thing and that our nation can be proud of those expenditures and that we have by and large gotten some value received for it. Now you are making a difference between that and our present military expenditures. Now in general do you think that perhaps this year we are trying to spend more than we should in Europe on military affairs? I believe that we could take a much carmer view of the whole situation in a longer range view and put the economic basis of opposition to Russia before the military. I see now in your view you're saying that we can take a longer view so that means that you don't think that war is imminent. I don't think war is imminent and I have not thought so for five years. You think that it's the Russian plan to try to weaken us economically rather than to attack us. That's my belief and that it's a very long range plan and that that we must plan accordingly. If that's the Russian plan over a period of years and it may be 10, 20 years. We have since that's the Russian plan is to attack us economically and make us weak then our first consideration in your view should be to protect ourselves from that from economic derangement at all. I feel that we must keep ourselves strong and by that I mean economically and to keep our morale high. Well I gather from what you say general that you believe Russia is winning her campaign against us if she is weakening us economically. I don't know you know more about what is being done to us economically than I do. I haven't been here very long. Well you just paid your taxes. But taxes and the general feelings that I sense of apprehension and doubt and confusion here lead me to believe that Russia may be succeeding and actually Russia has succeeded in taking a large part of the population of the world without losing a man. Do you believe that the people of Europe are as necessary to us militarily as we have led them to believe? I think we should change our emphasis and in from enlightened self-interest to sort of an inquiring self-interest and I don't believe that the people of Europe are in the long run essential to the existence of the United States. We can get along without them in Europe. I think we should do everything we could to bolster them to strengthen them and within our possibilities. I don't believe finally that the security of the United States rests anywhere but in our own hands. General you of course sir have a reputation as a great fighting soldier both with our own armist and I believe you went to the cold of gear. You are you also know something about the fighting abilities of other nations having fought two wars in Europe. I'm sure that our audience would like some quick evaluations from you as to what you think we're getting for our dollar in the form of fighting armies. Now do you think that the French for instance are in a mood to fight now and that we can create a fighting force in France. I think the French are admirable soldiers. I've seen them in battle. I've seen them in time of war making the greatest of sacrifices. I believe that they are a that their pride lies in their nation and I am quite doubtful about the value of the of the army that's being created on a basis merely of formulas and in a European sense. You mean a united European army. I don't believe it has any great value now. What about the Germans do you think that our efforts to create to invite the Germans to join an international force might be successful. I think the Germans are great soldiers. I don't believe that the Germans are either are going to to be willing to fight for for a divided Germany. You think that then that we that our efforts to create an international fighting force in Europe might not be as successful as we had hoped. I think the steps that we are taking may be successful in time but I think it'll be a very long range thing may take generations. In the meantime you would spend the money for something else. I would spend the money where it would strengthen us most. Well now so we've had on our show we've had a number of Americans who have said that we must plan for at least a 15 year period of making our nation strong in which a large proportion of our national expenditures must go to arms. Now is it your view that we should take a long range view and should make our own nation strong and most of our money should be spent on our own armaments. In my view we must rely on ourselves finally for our security. If we take a common view of the whole thing if we can watch our own expenditures and find out how much we can afford then in my opinion we must gauge our efforts to that economically. Can we just cut ourselves off from the rest of the world. Well I don't think so but I mean if we can avoid it no but in my opinion in the long run we can exist no matter if we have to no matter who has any particular. General I'm sure that our audience would like to have your view on this if worse should come to worst and if our nation in this generation should have to fight the Russian power complex you believe that we as a nation still have the strength to build a fighting army that could deal successfully with the Russians I do I do we dealt with the Germans when they had all of Europe we dealt with the Japanese when they had all of the Pacific. Well general I'm sure that our audience has understood your message tonight and that is that you think that our emphasis should be on making our own nation strong militarily. Thank you very much for being with us tonight sir. The editorial board for this edition of the long gene conoscope was Mr. William Bradford Huey and Mr. Donald I. Rogers our distinguished guest was General John S. 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