 Good morning, everyone. Welcome. We'll just let a few more people in before we get started and we'll start at 10 o'clock. All right. Welcome to all. We're here to learn about LinkedIn profile tips for your job search with David Robbins from JVS. This program is brought to you by the Business Science and Technology Center. While we're closed to the public, you can reach us at bissitech at sfpl.org. That's B-U-S-S-C-I-T-E-C-H at sfpl.org. If you go to our website and scroll down to support and services, you'll see there are two blue tiles, one for business and finance resources and one for job resources. So if you click on the one that you want, in this case, since we're talking about jobs, it takes you to our jobs and careers resources page. If you look over on the left, you'll see these pale letters, which are our menu for our resources. And each page is packed with all kinds of things for you to help you in your job search, all kinds of support. So please check out our webpages. 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We also have limited library service called sfpl to go. Not all of our locations are offering it, but you can check out materials while we're close to the public. Do go to our website to find out which locations are offering the service. And at that, I'm going to turn my screen over to our presenter, David Robbins. Hi, everyone. I'm going to share my screen. Thank you very much for coming. I always hope that this is helpful, and this should give us some information that you should already have if you're already using LinkedIn. I hope to maybe show you a few things that you don't know about. At least some of you may not know about. So I'm not going to be able to see all of you on the screen. I do like to keep the gallery view so I can see people, but I'm not going to be able to see you all, of course, because there are many more people than will fit on my screen. But I do want to take you through some slides. So this is LinkedIn profile tips, and we're going to focus on that. We'll talk about how to go beyond the profile sometime in April. I'll have another workshop for that. And I just want to introduce myself. I'm David Robbins, and I've been working at JVS for 11 years. I'm the senior instructor for the job search accelerator program. And JVS has been around in San Francisco for over 40 years. We provide free job training services to unemployed and underemployed people to build in-demand skills, make connections, and land great jobs. So we are completely funded. We're funded by government, but also private donations and foundations. We're a non-sectarian organization. We accept all comers. And the JVS does stand for Jewish, but it has never been exclusively a Jewish organization. The original funding came from Jewish organizations, foundations, but we've always been non-sectarian. We're headquartered in San Francisco, but we do have programs that were around the Bay. Right now, of course, with COVID and since the middle of March, we've been exclusively in virtual environments, primarily using Zoom to do our training, using some of Google Classroom to deliver training. So that's where we are right now with our programs. We have lots of different programs. So I would encourage you to go to JVS.org, and I have the link in the slide set. You will all be getting this slide set after the program. The different programs that we have focus on getting people skilled up. So we do have skills training programs in healthcare, and that would include dental assistant, medical assistant, medical administrative assistant, nursing refresher, and others. In technology, we have a Salesforce training program that's going to be back in July. It's a multi-month program. We have a program for bookkeeping, which also would include a paid internship. And we now have a data analyst program. We were partnering with Spring Springbridge. That also gives us, gives the clients mentoring that goes along with the training. And then the utilities and automotive programs that we have are to get people skilled up in the trades. We partner with companies. We partner with outside organizations. So we try to make sure we have the best information for you at the right time. I work with a job search accelerator program. It's, I call it industry agnostic. We don't focus on a particular industry. We basically have a two-week solid program on accelerating your job search by learning the skills. We work on industry standards. We have a recruiter advisory council that we work with regularly to find out what's really happening with the recruiters. How are the recruiters getting people? And we share that information then with our students. There's also a program for high school students. And we do have public workshops. So you can always stop in if you don't want to get into a multi-day or a multi-month program. You can always come to the public workshops and they're all available at the same website, jvs.org. The only fee for service that we have is working with a career coach. Mark Gurderman has been with JVS for probably 17, 18 years. He works in other organizations also as a career advisor and career coach. He's the only resource that we have when we actually charge for his services. So detail on a job search accelerator program. It is job search essential training. We just get into resume. We get into cover letter. We get into interviewing. The best thing about the program is that we have usually around 20 students and we build cohort so that when the program is over people have accountability people are learning about networking, networking and networking. That's going to be really important and that's what we're going to talk about actually today a little bit. So we have the peer job seekers. We have career coaching as an add-on service after the two-week program. In the program we have mock interviewing with corporate volunteers. Resume cover letter and networking skills are all trained. Applications are open right now. So again the link is on the slide so you'll be able to get that when the slide set is sent to you. The public workshops that we have here are listed on the slide. I'm not going to go into them and go into all of them but they're here and those are available again free of charge. So we're going to talk today about the LinkedIn profile and we're going to focus on the profile and I know people want to know more about how to use LinkedIn and I know that Shari Tishman has been teaching for the library and she has a number of LinkedIn programs and she gets into more detail. I will have a program called Beyond the Profile on April 8th so you're welcome to register for that as soon as the registration is available. The thing that becomes important for us to understand is that LinkedIn was not designed as a job search application. LinkedIn was designed as a networking application. So it's a networking site and then people ask the question well if it's a networking site why are you teaching it for job search? So some of you probably know the answer and since we're not going to get very interactive because of the large group the reason is that networking is probably the most important part of job search and we actually have a cheer in our TUI program just networking networking and networking. I mean we bring that up all the time because most people find their next job from somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody and you've probably heard the statement it's really about not what you know but who you know well when we really get into LinkedIn we realize that it's even more than that it's who knows you and that's where networking becomes really important. So we're going to focus on the profile as the the beginning stage of building a strong LinkedIn account and we're going to take that a piece at a time. So understanding a little more about how LinkedIn works there are over 650 million registered users. There are 30 million employers worldwide and they're posting probably 20 million open job opportunities at any one time and of course that's worldwide it's not here in the Bay Area but you can actually filter down to find out what's helping in the Bay Area. So there is a job board included but primarily we're talking about networking there are I mean while we're focusing on the on the profile it's actually the the little bottom area right here where it says 2.8 million recruiters are using LinkedIn to fill open jobs every day. So recruiters have access to the LinkedIn database they pay for that access and with that they get a bunch of tools where they can filter out who they're looking for. So if they're looking for someone who's an accounting specialist they can put that into their search and then they can filter out Bay Area they can filter out what people are are following their companies. There's a lot of information that they can get from the database. There are two ways that recruiters and hiring managers use LinkedIn. One is to find you if they're looking for candidates. The other is you might send in a resume and they like that resume. They say oh this is a great person you know I see Belinda here and I think Belinda is somebody we should talk to. Before I call her in though what they do they go to your LinkedIn profile to find out who you really are. So we're going to talk a little bit about the difference you know resume which gets you the interview and what you're going to put into your LinkedIn profile. So who really uses LinkedIn and this is about 90 percent you know 93 percent of recruiters are actually using LinkedIn every day. Hiring managers are using LinkedIn regularly. So I want to make sure that we understand the difference between a profile and a resume because a lot of people who are asking questions about LinkedIn of me they say how do I upload my resume. I try to be very clear you don't upload your resume into LinkedIn. They serve two very different purposes even though we use them both in job search they're really different. So if we look to the left side here you can see that this is the profile and the profile is not set up the same as the resume. So what is the purpose of the resume. The resume is the key to get you invited to an interview which means that if you know the job description your first job before creating your resume is to decode that job description is to analyze the job description is to understand what it is that the hiring manager is looking for what is it that they want what is it that they need and the keywords they're using to identify that should show up in your resume for that specific job which does mean yes every time you apply for a job we recommend that you create a new resume and of course you might only have to tweak a resume each time but it should be very specific to that company to that job. Your LinkedIn profile is different it's very generalized it's not to get you a particular job interview it's to get people to understand who you are as a professional. I like to call it your professional persona. So if you look at the check marks it speaks to all potential employers not just one. So when people say well I'm applying for a new job I have to change my LinkedIn if you wrote your LinkedIn profile correctly you shouldn't have to change it every time. The only time you would have to change your profile is when you have new information new classes that you've taken new certifications that you have a new job that you have those are the only times you would actually go in and change it not for each job you're applying to. The benefit of the profile is it has a lot more detail than the resume can handle. So it has skills it has projects you can list your interests and list your certifications things that you don't have room for on a one or maximum two page resume and it also then allows a lot of interactivity so people can contact you can contact them so that's where the networking portion of the original concept came from in LinkedIn. It also something that we don't put on resumes any longer in your LinkedIn profile you could have your recommendations and people endorsing your skills. So again a lot more that can show up in your LinkedIn profile and can show up on your resume. So the focus today is the left side of the slide. I want to go into the photo why we need it and what happens if you don't have a photo. So there's a consequence for that we're going to talk about the headline what is a headline where is it how does it work what should be on it and then we'll talk about the summary section which is now called the about section and then we'll stop periodically to take any questions that you have I know that Kirstie and Leah might be looking at the chat to see what questions you have but I will take a couple of breaks in the middle different portions of the program to invite questions that you might have about what we just covered and then we'll get into the experience section the skills section recommendations. If we have time I do want to talk about your custom URL and your public profile that's the part that people don't know becomes real important for your LinkedIn account. So why are we focusing so much on profile? Well your profile is actually given a status when you first build your profile you're a beginner and then you're an intermediate and as you start completing your profile you move up in status and nobody could see it except for recruiters and yourself. So in the dashboard section of your profile which nobody else sees except for you in the upper right hand corner of that dashboard it'll tell you what your status is. Your goal and some of the tips I want to give you today is to get yourself to all star that means it signals to recruiters and hiring managers that you have a complete profile and users with complete profiles are 40 times more likely to receive opportunities through LinkedIn. So if they're going to find you they're going to be looking first at people who are in their field of course that have the skills they're looking for but also have a complete profile. So all of those things become really important so that's what we're going to move toward today. The photo. Now I know people say I'm not going to put a photo because it's going to eliminate me because they're going to see I have a white beard and therefore they're not going to want to talk to me or my skin color is not the right skin color and therefore they're not going to want to talk to me. You understand though that you're going to always show up for an interview with your white beard with your skin color so if they're not going to want to talk to you that's probably good for you to not bother trying to get into that company right any company that has all the isms ages and racism genderism companies you probably don't want to work for anyway but more important for the photo is that people need to know which David Robbins they're looking for right so if my friends are on LinkedIn and they're looking for me there are thousands of David Robbins but there's only one with my photo. So members with profile photos will receive many more views and many more connection requests than people who don't have the photos matter of fact a lot of recruiters when they get to pull up your your profile because you have the right skill set they do not see the the photo they'll probably skip over and we hear that from recruiters. So the goal just put up a photo and it doesn't have to be taken by a professional if you want to pay for a professional take it that's great. My photo I happen to like I had a friend I handed him my my smartphone and I said you know take some photos of me and you know we took about 35 photos we picked the one I liked put it up okay the key is and what makes it look quote professional is to use a background that isn't distracting I wouldn't use the the background that I have right now which is a photo of my my fence my backyard I wouldn't use that and I wouldn't use actually even my office I would stand up against a wall and have a plain background as this woman in the example slide here use a background isn't distracting dress for the job you want you know a t-shirt with a logo on it is not going to be appropriate for a job interview it therefore it's not appropriate for your LinkedIn photo smile a little bit okay you don't think through the big teeth smile but just a little bit of a smile that says I'm warm and friendly and inviting and it should be you know what in theater we call a headshot it should be primarily your head it could be your chest up to the top of your head that's fine but you don't want to be far away where it's looking at your whole body you want to basically get a face shot okay so you can pay for somebody to do that but just use the wonderful cameras that are in all of our smartphones and that's the easiest way to get that photo taken and then it's pretty easy to put it up into the LinkedIn application and it'll give you some tips for how to center it and you can get to make it look good for what you're looking for so I took a screenshot of the top of my LinkedIn profile and you can see where the photo goes and the reason I wanted to show you this is that we're going to talk a little bit more about what's in this top section because just like the top of your resume the first thing that someone sees when they come to your profile they get to see this top section this is where you want to grab their attention so that they're interested in looking at the rest of your profile don't think that recruiters spend a lot of time looking at every word in your profile unless you have really captured their interest same thing with your resume right they say that recruiters uh highway manager spend about six seconds looking at your resume the first time um they do the same thing with your LinkedIn profile unless you capture their attention how do you catch their attention well um the best way is here in the headline so I I have this to just show you where the headline shows up right under your name so you have your photo you have your name and then you have your headline you get to write the headline LinkedIn will write the headline for you but they don't do a good job so you want to write the headline so that you can capture the attention of the people who are looking at it so this is what the profile is all about right you want to edit your profile in your in your headline first to show not just what you do with your title but what you are what kind of person you are so when you're writing your headline there are a couple of questions here and this slide actually comes from LinkedIn LinkedIn uh coaches provided this to JVS and I figured that I would just share some of their slides with you directly um here's the wonderful question if this is the only thing someone sees what does it say about you does it represent you as a professional right we talk about branding does this show why you are special what's different about you so if I'm an accountant and I put accountant and somebody else is an accountant they put accountant we're not differentiating ourselves from each other the headline is the first opportunity you have to start differentiating yourself so you wanted to capture something that recruiters would care about okay now what we recommend actually these aren't even great examples of it here that LinkedIn used um uh like this person here curriculum designer facilitator great you know what there are thousands of those this person up at the top design thinking meets social impact meets business strategy what's that's a person what that what is that person's title we don't know well we can look down an experience to see what their title is but right now I learned something about that person they're into design thinking which is a big uh component now of a lot of what companies are looking for social impact also what companies looking for business strategy that's a standard so what what she's doing here is getting the person's attention in order for them to look further what does she mean by that and that's what we call a value statement what's the value that you're providing to the next company to the person that you're going to network with um this person pretty much just a title head of client strategy and business development at beyond okay again why is that different from any other head of client strategy so you want to try to add something um in this one down here empower the global workforce at LinkedIn so now we know that they don't only work at LinkedIn but they're looking at go empowering the global workforce they're working to help workers and the workforce use LinkedIn better so again something more about it so what I did was grab what I felt were some really good value statements and um I can go back and just take a look at what I did with mine when I updated my profile I realized my title changed to senior instructor so I have my title here and then I have some keywords because that's what they're looking for right they're going to search on keywords to find people LinkedIn networking job search those are my my fortes that's what I do but then I added a value statement delivering content to improve performance and confidence it just says something more about the way that I do my instruction the way that I do my career advising so what I provided in the slide set then are a number of value statement examples headlines with value statements so this person is a social worker relationship builder communication strategist um and then those right there give a little bit of a differentiator but then the value statement passionate about igniting change through employment that's what we talk about and as a value statement so that's where I encourage you to start thinking about how can I add a value statement to my headline so I gave you other examples marketing and communications leader harnessing the power of content data and passion to inspire unprecedented results so this person likes to inspire people uh certified sales force administrator and I am going to guess that there might be some people here who have that certification um and then talk a little bit about their backgrounds consultant with 20 years of system administration experience and then enabling companies to fully use technology to create an amazing customer experience there again the value this person has no title right delivering tomorrow's on-demand renewable energy well that might catch my interest if that's what I might be interested in and then I would go down into the experience section to look at what they do what's their job and then I crossed out the one that I see a lot which is just job title I'm an event and production planner how do you do your planning what do you do why do you do it how do you service the employer or the client so that's what I encourage you to do you have 120 characters to build um to build your your headline so 120 characters not a lot of words but 120 characters enough to to uh to try to put together a headline on top of your on top of your job title or the kind of industry you're working in okay um I want to go on to another section before I stop and take some questions um I want to show you my jump in on me I want to show you my profile just to show you where I'm where we're what I'm talking about where I'm working so here is my LinkedIn profile you saw the screenshot here my headline my name my headline um and then this area here open to work we'll talk about that in April but this is part of using the jobs tab which is up at the top and this is something that you can make available open to work letting just recruiters know that you're looking for work or let everyone in LinkedIn know you're looking for work up to you and then you have the about section or we used to be called the summary now the reason I wanted to show this to you is um when you see it you notice that I have only two lines and a couple of words that are that show but um they the summary will hold 20 20 000 characters oh now I think it's 2400 characters so what you want to do here is capture their attention again so that they will click the C more and then they could see all of your about section so here's the summary section this is someone else's but again all you're going to see are three lines unless someone clicks the C more and the about section is where you can actually talk more about yourself what is your background what are you doing if you have experience that's not your current position and that's the experience you want to use for your next job this is where you would talk about it so here you talk in the first person and you're really showing your professional persona in the summary section um what does LinkedIn say about it a couple of things their model is basically you're going to put your own spin on your experience so one to two sentences about who you are three to five sentences about your experience top skills one to two sentences about your future goals or some people use that that last paragraph to list their skills so you could see their example here and again you'll get this when you get the slide set one thing that's important is that this became something new make sure to include a summary of at least 40 words that show up in the search results of other members so if you're going to use the about section make sure you have at least 40 words and your maximum is about 2400 characters okay characters meaning alpha numeric spaces punctuation all of those are characters when we're counting characters okay so what does a summary look like so this example here that I showed you of what it looks like when someone first opens up your profile and they're scrolling down and they get to the about section that's all they get to see but if they click see more they'll get to see this now excuse me david for interrupting but what was that line you said one to two lines about yourself three to five lines about your experience what was the third item one to two sentences about your future goals or how people can reach you or your skill sets some people call use it as a call to action and that's if you want to say I'm looking for this kind of job you can put it here rather than putting it in your headline I don't recommend putting in your headline looking for work recruiters don't care if you're looking for work they don't first look at people who are looking for work they look for skills so here's the opportunity to put that for your network to let them know you're looking for work in addition to what we talked about in the jobs tab now looking for what type of job I'm looking for is what you mean when I'm looking for work what type it depends it depends how you want to use it all Michael I you know again everybody's going to use it differently so I'm going to give you a couple of examples and then you have to figure out how you want to make that available and looking at other people's profiles I mean that's the best way to take a look at what other people are doing okay so this person is more like the LinkedIn model he talks a little bit I work with with Jim he talks about his professional career his background leading three-star kitchen teams well that got my attention right away I want to know more about them from there organizing 1500 member professional development groups working with individuals dedicating to making change in my coaching practice and then he uses again another value I have contributed to improving people's performance and grown their capacity for accomplishing their goals his second paragraph he talks about how he does that and then his third paragraph is a list of his specialties right so he is not saying what kind of job he's looking for he's not really looking for work now if he doesn't say he's looking for work will recruiters skip over him do you think recruiters contact people who are currently employed I can see some heads nodding yeah actually recruiters first look at people who are currently employed because they would rather have someone who has current skills and they're more sure of it there and that's why you're going to use this to explain if you have been unemployed you want to explain in here how you've been keeping up your skill set you have an opportunity here to talk in the first person about the classes you've taken how you got certified as a Salesforce administrator you could talk about that right here but you have to get those first couple of sentences to get them to want to open this up okay um the next section is is experience so i'm going to stop here and find out if there have been questions if there are any questions other than michaels yeah um david the first question is is it better to use a statement or simply keywords in the headline and why all caps ah why is mine all caps mine is all caps because they don't have bold so i wanted that to stand out oh attention grammar it doesn't have to be all caps if you look here people who view jason cruder not all caps right so different people have different different ways that they're going to put together their their um their sites this is um a colleague of mine right and uh she does not have a value statement later today i will yell at her okay um and you know again there are different ways that you could do that but she's not saying anything about herself in the headline and that's where you have a great opportunity to do that so i encourage you to do that and that's why i gave you all the the one full slide of just examples of good headlines okay the next question is if i understood correctly david said that you don't upload your resume to your linkedin profile but isn't there a way to upload or attach your resume to the profile in the about section does he suggest doing this i suggest not doing that okay if i if i'm applying to um a job at abc company as a data analyst and i write a resume for that why would i want to put that into my linkedin when someone from a different company that has a different kind of position might be looking for me looking for someone and then they see well i'm only looking for this position so i would not recommend putting your resume into your linkedin profile anywhere now you're going to use it as a resource to build your experience section that we're going to talk about next but there it's actually counterproductive for you to put your resume into your linkedin profile anywhere you can i don't i don't recommend it yes next question if i view someone's linkedin profile will they be able to see that i have looked at their profile oh my god yes now the question is why do you not want them to see that you looked at their profile um see they may be interested in you right now if you do not want them to see that you looked at their profile then there are um there are security sections there are um i'm just going to point to it here in my profile if you look at my screen um if you look at the me section and you click the down arrow right settings and privacy there are settings there where you could say i don't want anyone to see that i'm looking at their profile and then you know i'll just say someone looked at my profile but they won't know who um i don't use that because i would like people to see i'm looking at their profile so they then could say oh i'm going to look at david's profile they look at my profile they go how oh you worked at such a set we should get in touch with one another you know what the call that is networking so since i'm using this for networking um i'm not embarrassed to share myself and that's what i use linkedin for okay but they're all privacy settings i have to say for some people you don't want people to see you definitely go to the privacy settings all right next question does your number of connections matter yes and no okay people say oh i have to get 500 connections that's not true um you should only be connecting with people you know who know you because you're building a network and if you if you um are connecting with strangers you're inviting strangers or they're inviting you and you say yes they can't help you in your job search later on that's just a number so you want to go for quality rather than quantity i do recommend that you strive for 50 first level connections in order to have a complete profile it used to be 30 i think now it's 50 now you just look there are i don't know how many people are in the room right now um i think there are more 100 that registered there are a lot of people here that um you could possibly network with there are people in your in your prior employment that you could network with it shouldn't be that difficult to find 50 people that you can first level connect with that becomes the the basis for your um for growing your network because if you have 50 and each of those people has 50 right away your network has grown geometrically and if each of those people have 50 you're you're in the hundreds of thousands um or even getting close to millions of people that are in your network that doesn't mean you could talk to them all that's a different issue but there are people that you can see who can see you that um you might be able to connect with or communicate with through those first 50 connections that you have so those first 50 connections are the ones that that bring you the power of the networking application so in April we're going to talk more about networking and how networking works for you but i would i would strive for 30 to start 50 to have a complete profile and then what happens is automatically you're going to see it start to grow and more people will invite you people will find out where you are who you are and they'll grow from there okay i could take one more question now move on okay thank you um we have a question from um one of the attendees what about bullets instead of paragraphs in the about section please discuss pros and cons um i don't really have pros and cons um i i think what what becomes really important is uh readability um in the about section and also that the material in there is um pertinent to what it is that you're looking for so i always say you should be only using relevant information if it's not relevant to who you are or what your job is i would skip it that doesn't mean you get out get rid of hobbies hobby might be relevant to who you are so uh let me scroll down in mine again and here's my about section once again closed and here it is open so in the slides you'll see the the simple um the simple summary so basically three paragraphs and then you you'll get to see the longer summary which i think yeah if i look at the slide said this is my what you have in the slide is my summary section my about section now i went to i went a different direction okay this is almost like a functional resume the beginning of it is to get people's attention and explain who i am so first person i love helping my students and clients get it which means i want them to learn and take learning away from the session right using personal experience my 30 plus years in business volunteer work helping raise two wonderful daughters i try to relate to students own experience to make learning meaningful for them that's the way that i work and then i listed my experience this way so they're they're um they're kind of bullets and and paragraphs combined okay job search and the reason i used uppercase here is that we don't have bold and i want you to identify easy to scan so if someone comes here they could see job search in sort of business knowledge oh knowledge management we want to know more about that what does he say about it and here's information about my 16 years at hb a global knowledge manager title 500 employees that i supported right so this is done in a way for people to be able to scan it yet grab attention on different aspects and then i added at the bottom my signature themes from the strengths finder 2.0 book uh so that's a book um that a lot of companies using so i decided to put my strengths finder information here rather than my specialties or my skills um nothing wrong with having bullets um just remember that a very long list of bullets people stop looking about one third of the way through okay so um you want to make sure that you have white space in between sections so that people can easily move from section to section to section without having to read every word um the same thing's going to happen we talk about the experience section the same thing that happens on your resume i hope that answered the question so i don't think there are pros and cons what works for you is best and then check it out with people that you know and trust does this look good is this working for you great i'll keep it okay you can always change it okay i'm gonna go back into my slide set so there was the simple summary that was my my co-worker jim actually the assistant director of our job search accelerator group and this is the longer summary just to show you the examples but you can always come to my my linkedin profile and take a look at it after that top of the resume of the linkedin profile you get into the experience section so in the experience section we're talking about um what is similar to a resume okay now in a resume we say you're going to put in your title the company name the the city state and the dates linkedin it's going to be exactly the same in both your resume and your linkedin profile you can use months and years or you can just use years that's up to you and again it's your preference not mine okay um and then like similar to the way you would write your your your resume for the job is you want to put in your accomplishments not just a list of your responsibilities so as it says here this it's similar format to a resume in that you have the the top part is the same as a resume or similar um you're going to use accomplishment statements you know what did you do using numbers but you want to make sure just like on your resume that you have white space and um what you can't do on your resume is add media so this person actually put um uh libguide libguide right from the library i have a couple of photos of me teaching i have a video of me teaching um you have the opportunity to put that some of you who are into um art design you could actually put one of your designs attached to the um the actual job okay so similar format to resume using accomplishment statements to saying what you did hopefully you might be in you might be informed about star statements a situation or task actions and results we always teach that people should be preparing their accomplishment statements or their star statements before they even write a resume right what did you do that was good in prior work what did you do um that your manager said you did a good job at all of those things are things that become accomplishments so it's better to put in your accomplishments rather than um responsible for the file system responsible for answering phones that doesn't say anything about you right responsible for the file system would change to improve the file system uh with a by creating a team and uh changing the process to save about an hour every week for each employee that right away says more about you rather than just the fact that you manage the file system okay so that's what we're talking about that you should have on your resume and you should have it here in your linkedin profile some people don't put anything they just put their job and again i i don't argue with these things um uh if that's all you want to do you you can again you have an opportunity to let people know how you relate to the position they're trying to fill which means your keywords that you used in your headline that you used in your summary statement should also be used in your experience that's how you're going to show consistency throughout your linkedin profile okay and this last bullet becomes real important uh members with current positions are found up to 16 times more in recruiter searches so that becomes a little dicey for some because if you're unemployed you don't have a current position so if i'm working with you one on one i would ask you well what are you doing while you're being on while you're unemployed while looking for a job what else are you doing i'm taking classes at san francisco state oh what are your classes in data and data analytics really well let's put that down as your current position so let's put down data analyst as your title your company name you could put down san francisco state if you like or you could put down just the industry you're trying to get into tech industry the the time frame to the present that you're currently working in on your certification and then your experience your experience then would be pursuing a certification at san francisco state in data analytics so you're not lying to them you're not making up a job you're letting them know what happens but the algorithm is many times looking for a current position so you can actually push a current position in there by explaining what you're currently doing even though you're not working for a particular company now the other thing that becomes real important to understand is that um experience does not mean paid for work experience experience just means experience in your field which means if you're volunteering currently volunteering while you're looking for work that becomes your experience so a volunteering position is fine to fill in current position and could fill in any gaps that you might have in your experience if you've been volunteering if you've been studying if you've been taking us quote sabbatical to study this new field those things can fill in any gaps in your profile and definitely can show up as something that is your current experience okay um and I usually get the questions about how do I deal with gaps fill in with volunteering classes that you're taking uh and at that period of time and even if you've been traveling some people say well I wasn't really studying I I did a european tour well you can put that down right sabbatical from work to go through on a european tour uh what did you do on the european tour uh well I checked out a lot of museums studying museums okay so it's not asking for paid work experience it's asking for experience and if that experience says more about you and your professional persona it's right on it fits right in okay so that's the experience section experience section goes on and on and on and then people say um how far down should I go right how many years should I have on in my experience uh people tell me no more than 10 years I have a lot of my colleagues that say the same thing it doesn't always make sense to me right because what I've been doing for the last 10 years may not show the breadth of my experience and my skill set I've been working at JVS for 11 and a half years so if I only go back 10 years the only job I could show is JVS well before JVS I worked at Lehet Harrison which is an out placement firm doing this similar work so I was there for five years before that I worked at Hewlett Packard for 16 years oh wait a second David now now you're you're showing your age well yeah I already said that in my about section I've been I've been doing this for 30 plus years and again if they don't want me because I worked at Hewlett Packard for 16 years and therefore I'm older than their target population that's to me that's fine because if their target population are 22 year olds to 30 year olds I'm not going to fit in that company anyway so I want to show my experience now how far back you go for me is again the word relevant back in the day I was a yoga instructor if you look at me now you'll see I don't look like a yoga instructor um I actually opened up with with some friends of mine we all became yoga instructors together we we actually got certified we I lived in a tent for a month I was really certified as yoga instructor and we opened up our own yoga center in San Francisco when there were only very few yoga centers we're talking way back when okay I don't put that on my resume because it's not it's not relevant to the kind of work I'm doing now or the work I've done in my quote professional career so once again I'm gonna just jump into the experience section that you can see for me okay now all the things that I'm skipping over here like featured and articles that you write uh I'm going to talk about all of this in the April session or at the end of the program well today if there's time we'll talk more about these things but I want to just focus on the profile that you're putting together and that becomes your experience section here okay so at JVS I'm currently the senior instructor job search accelerator program I also I'm still a career advisor so that was February 2019 to the present and before that I was just a jobs adjust I was a I was an instructor and facilitator but I moved out of that in April as I became the senior instructor for the job search accelerator program so I have all of this you notice it's all under JVS so it says I've been working JVS for 11 years and then 11 months at this position two years at this and 10 years at this position okay and then I've added a couple of photos of me teaching I hear I'm teaching the interns and you click on this and it opens up a photo prior to to to JVS I worked at Stafford House International which is an English language school where I was the professional certificates instructor and I have here a video of me teaching those students and a couple of photos and a certificate that I won and then I get into this and you notice I'm now starting to go back to 2006 to 2012 when I had my own company and then prior to that I was 16 years at Euler-Paper okay for me all of these things say what my skill set is and what I've been doing and all of these things are pertinent to the kind of work that I do now but I've gone even further back which doesn't mean you need to again stay with what you think is relevant right now for me my corporate experience is still relevant because I'm working with a lot of corporate partners so if we look at more experience I trained corporate trainers for a small consulting firm I was the president of a nonprofit and I was the business manager of a theater school you know once again just more information that I want to share to show more about my background so this is the kind of background that I have you notice mine goes back to the 70s if you don't think that that's relevant for you don't put it in there it's relevant for me in two ways once it shows more about the breadth of my experience it also helps me network because there are other people that came through the Delarte school that might put in and search for Delarte and they may then find me because it's going to show up in my profile so I'm using this as a networking tool I'm not particularly looking for work right now at some point when I might be looking for work I will probably change the experience section to be relevant to the kind of work I'm looking for and be very specific and then it may not go back you know 30 years so that's up to you how you want to put your experience together and I think the most important thing to remember is that experience does not necessarily mean paid work experience volunteer experience training yourself pursuing a certification and you might it took a year off to do that all of that becomes experience and you can add that into your profile okay I'm going to go that's 11 we end at what time 11 30 I think right yeah that's right David okay okay so I'm going to go on then before I take more questions I want to go on to two more sections just to show you what those are and I'm going to go back into my my slide set so here's where you talked about experience and then another thing that you don't have on your profile necessarily some people who are in tech actually have a list of their tech skills and you could do that but I don't have particular skills listed on my profile my my my experience section actually identifies my skills through my accomplishment statements right when I when I identify here's a situation here are my actions and here are the results it actually is identifying skills inside that and it's actually automatic people see the skills just by reading that but on your profile you have an opportunity to put in particular skills you can list at least five skills to have a complete profile and you have a limit of 50 skills that you can add to your profile okay now when someone looks at your profile they only see three skills and then if they want to see more they have to click show more the question is which three skills do you want them to see which are your most important skills to to demonstrate to point out to people and that is where you get to make some changes in your skills section so five skills minimum recommend recommended you don't have to have any but if you want to have a complete profile put in five skills and all of you have five skills how many of you know how to use zoom everybody because you're in zoom there's a skill you could put that in there right there how many of you know how to use microsoft suite you know how to do that how many of you use google so there are lots of skills you already have you can easily put those in there but you also have very specific skills in your industry right if you're medical administrator if you are an accountant those skills can all be listed you get to choose your top three skills but linkedin will initially choose three for you you get up to 13 more profile views by having some skills listed and here you can actually encourage people to endorse your skills and that says to recruiters that other people think david has these skills so i have a lot of endorsements but i've been in linkedin for a long time but you could call a friend who's one of your first level connections and say hey uh mira could you please endorse my skills and if mira thinks that that's an honest thing to do she'll go in and endorse your skills if she has a first level connection to you so yes it's good to have endorsements in your skills five endorsements that might be fine ten start saying to a recruiter who sees it okay there are people who believe this person has these skills i want to show you though how to choose your own top three by going back into my linkedin account if i have skills so it's skills and endorsements you add a new skill by clicking here and then you could identify the skill and here are the top three skills that i have here but let's say i don't want to talk anymore about you know workshop facilitation and training are pretty much the same thing but there are other things i do so if someone's interested they could click on show more and they could see all the different skills that i have listed okay they're in categories that linkedin controls so they linkedin decided these are industry knowledge these are interpersonal skills and these are other i could take any of these skills and put them in the top three but i have to use the edit crayon for that so just as i could use the edit crayon to update my experience and i could use the edit crayon to update my my um you know any other section you'll find this edit crayon so if i click on this it changes the view and you can see here are all of my other skills okay so i have workshop facilitation and i have training but i really want to have let's say project management okay so i i click on you notice that this is the pushpin but it's a clear pushpin but i click on it to move it up there and i click on this pushpin and i'm going to notice that says you may not select more than three top skills so i have to remove a skill in order to move um move this skill up to the top okay click okay i come back to the top three skills and i say okay i'm going to remove training now i have only two up here and then i can go down here and get to project management click on this and project management has now been moved up here okay so i hope you understand how to do that if you go into your edit crayon you'll see things like this and once you see this you'll pretty much understand how to do it um if i want project management to be the first skill listed i can actually hear in these horizontal bars i can click on the horizontal bar and i can move it to the top or i can move it back down to the third okay and then i hit save but i don't want to save so you have to make sure that you take a look at your skills pick the three that you want people to see when they first come to your profile and then go and pull those from the bottom and move them up to the top okay one more section before i i stop for more questions so again i could do this as show less this is what people see and below that is this wonderful section called recommendations okay i'm gonna go back into my slide set just to show you what you can see for skills we talked about recommendations can just as the people who can endorse your skills are only those that are your first level connections those that you invite and they accept or they invite you and you accept and they become first level connections um they can give you recommendations they can add recommendations to your profile okay and you could choose which ones to show um you can ask people for recommendations and you could do that by going to their profile and click on more and it'll say ask for recommendation i never use that the way that i asked for a recommendation is the way that i believe networking should be used i i have my cell phone right and i pick it up and i say hi rebecca um you know i could i really could use your help in linkedin i know we're connected i wonder if you could um add a recommendation to my profile oh oh that's sure no definitely i'll do it back for you what i'm looking for though is talking about my project management skills you remember we worked on that project together if you could just reflect on that um oh yeah i yeah i know it's hard to figure out what to write i will send you an email with like three bullets and then you could do what you want with that and bella shit however you want to do it that would be real helpful to me uh thank you rebecca okay great that is the way that i would ask people for a recommendation and also offer to help them write it they then send that to you to your profile they don't send it your email they they load it onto your profile and then you get to see that you received your recommendation you decide if you're going to hide it or you're going to have it be published now i recommend that you ask a couple of your dear friends and professional friends to give you recommendations i also recommend that you give other people recommendations and that becomes real important i have seen people's profiles where it says received 35 recommendations given zero now what does that say to somebody looking at that profile right you're a you're a taker not a giver so i recommend that you give recommendations and when you give recommendations many times that'll be the key to get people to want to recommend you back okay so that takes us through the the six bullets that i have on the left here those were the key points i wanted to talk about networking becomes real important job search becomes real important we'll talk about those april eighth and there are a couple of other things here if we have time i want to take some questions but then if we have time we'll also talk about your public profile or your custom url and i think that becomes real helpful the fact that you could also create your two profiles at the same time in different languages so those are also helpful for people who are multimodal so i'm going to stop share and i'll come back to share if i need to but i know that there are probably questions out there i did see a couple of hands up and i'm sorry i didn't stop but um uh kirstie if you have any questions for me i'd love to attack them now two people were wondering about um the premium uh service is it worth it um uh it's always always a hard thing um we actually provide the premium linkedin account free for a year to people who graduate our job search accelerator program but when people ask me about that i i have the way i answer that is this if you are already expert in using the free version of linkedin you might sign up for the premium version you get a one month free but you have to give them your credit card and then at the end of that month they'll start charging you about 30 a month so it does give you a couple of benefits but i found when i first became premium i wasn't using any of the benefits because i didn't need them so i don't think it's worth it if you are just starting to learn to use linkedin linkedin is extremely powerful and that's why i recommend you know coming to the April 8th session but also sherry tishman is is teaching multiple sessions here on linkedin if you go to learn more about the power of linkedin do that first and i've even talked to staff people at linkedin because we partner with them a lot and they agree if if you're if you are not yet an expert not even an expert if you're not yet using the full facility that you have it doesn't pay to spend $30 a month because it gives you more tools but if you don't use the current free tools you don't know really what you're getting as paid tools okay next question okay someone was wondering how to address experience if you want to go back to a profession you've been out of for over 10 years and the most recent experience does not reflect what this person wants to do our skills that that they have that are relevant great really important and it's it also be something that's going to reflect in the way you do your job search but um you have an opportunity number one to to speak to that in your headline and especially in your about section so on your about section you want to identify as the reason that i have that format of my about section is that i'm able to to move what is prior experience uh like my corporate experience being years ago i can actually move that to the top to to to call it out so you can call out that experience also when you're writing your experience section the current job that you had or the last two or three jobs that you've had don't put a lot of information in there because you want people to scroll through it and get to the part that's the meat of what you're looking for and there is where you should put in your five bullets there is where you should put in the the the description of what you accomplished in that other position so that you're spending more of the of the reader's energy looking at that than scanning the positions that you currently have but it's not what you're really looking for so headline and about section and then reconfigure your your experience it still has to be chronological but it's how much weight you put on each of the experience sections that's going to be helpful hope that helps thank you um there are some questions about including experience and education with or without dates um experience needs dates you can't put in experience without dates same thing on your resume um you can put in years and not months or you can put in months and years um for your education you don't need any dates so if you've recently graduated put those dates down if you like me if you graduated back in the 40s um then you want to not include the dates so education doesn't need dates experience needs dates okay thank you uh someone had a question about attaching media the question is would it not be seen as sharing confidential company work uh yes don't share confidential company work okay show your skill okay so if you're if your skill is uh uh data analytics and you want to show a data spreadsheet you take out all of them you you redact uh the information about the company name etc um you could also talk to that company so the material that I have is is is pertinent to my skill set so let me share my screen again so here is work I've done and work I've done here it's not it's not showing anything other than photos of me teaching so it just says this is real I mean he really is he really has been teaching okay um here I have a video and it's not giving out any information as a matter of fact this is the marketing video that the company used that included me teaching so I took it right off their website no problem there so if you're going to share something that um is going to call out a company name and any proprietary data I would not do it and that's going to also be things that you're going to put into your experience section it's not only the media but anything you put in your experience section you have to be careful of not giving out information that is um beyond the scope of your experience uh so just to double check uh for education we don't need with better not to have years I didn't say better I said you don't need to have years all right yeah yeah so my my education section I have here just a class that I took at Golden Gate so I put that there uh San Francisco State University I put the years in because it makes me look younger but but this is me going back to school okay um yeah I don't know why I have the years here I actually I should take them off I didn't realize I had that um but I have all of my education and I actually include my high school and that has nothing to do with job search that has to do with networking there are people who went to the high school that I went to um I was uh I was active in the high school so if someone is searching on uh Sheepstake Bay High School in LinkedIn they might find me and go David Robbins I haven't spoken to him forever oh he's a trainer oh I could use him in my company okay so that that's the opportunity you have here um but you can have dates or not I don't know why I have University of Phoenix dates uh University of Phoenix so well I might not be able to do it while I'm in and while I'm in zoom but I can actually just delete these I can change these dates and get rid of them which is what I'll do okay next question thank you how long and how much detail uh for each role for for the current role or the role you really want to show off if you're dealing in bullets it would be probably three to five bullets um and those bullets would be one or two lines if it's going to be short paragraphs again it would be three to five paragraphs again white space in between if you are um dealing with prior jobs or jobs that you're not focused on one to three bullets would be would probably be appropriate but again it depends the the problem that I see is when people have 20 bullets for the job nobody's going to go and look at the next job they're going to look through the first five bullets and then they're going to skip down to your education understand that you were taught you're looking at somebody else looking at it so put their hat on you stand in their shoes put on their blue blocker glasses and figure out what they need to see to catch your attention you're not going to get a job from your linkedin profile what you're going to get save it with your resume you're going to get hopefully someone inviting you to talk further with them and that's what this is about so yeah I would say three to five bullets for the for the current position one to three bullets for the other positions thank you um how can you reach out for people to endorse skills for endorsements do people usually trade one to one as a courtesy not so much on skills actually linkedin um first of all it's only people you're connected to first level right so that means that you're you have a connection to them you can send them messages you could just send them a message saying hey can you please endorse more of my skills I mean if they're connected to they know you you know them it shouldn't be a hard job to do that on the other hand again by calling people in skills linkedin well when I'm going looking at different people if I look at you know Noriko's profile and where first level connected when I first look at it there might be a message there said would you like to endorse Noriko for accounting and then I have the opportunity to say yes and I just click that and it goes away that's it okay so linkedin is helping you get endorsements but I had a a colleague who left our organization and we about five of us got emails from him saying I just noticed in my skills section that the the the name that I'm using for that skill has been changed so I'm going to delete those skills I'm going to put the new skills in but I don't want to lose your endorsements can you please tonight look at my skill section and re-endorse those new skills and all five of us did it right we're helping him out and yeah maybe he'll help us out later recommendations are sometimes traded one for one which is fine nobody's going to go checking saying oh that this is not a real recommendation this is just payback no they're not looking at that they're looking at is the recommendation saying something about you but in skills it's more appropriate to the actual skill rather than just saying hey I did five of your skills do five of my skills I haven't heard that much but I do encourage people to look at my profile right now I have enough endorsements thank goodness backward you know after being in linkedin since 2004 but when I look at someone else's profile I look at skills I know they have I don't just endorse skills I don't think that they have thank you if you don't pass the skills test they have will it show also can you keep taking it until you pass no one yes so if you don't pass the skills test first of all not everything that's it doesn't test skills on everything right if they test they test very specific skills they maybe they'll write more skills tests later but if you don't pass it it doesn't show anywhere um you cannot take it again right away their their their thought is you didn't pass the skills test go and skill up and then take the test again now I don't know how many weeks or months it is but there is a break between the time you can take that skill test again so there's the opportunity to then go into linkedin learning or if you if you're a premium uh or go to linda.com which is like a free version of linkedin learning through the library or go to any of the other trainings that you can find out there um take the training skill up and then take the then take the test again but there is a break that you can't take it the next day thank you um leaving out the dates on education can you still be an all star yeah yeah and education just have to something in education you don't need to have you don't even have to put down a degree great thank you um another question is what about taking online courses do you name the name of the certifying company even if it's not an accredited educational institution really good so you could put um you could put your let me let me go back to my um if you hang with me because I know we're at 11 30 so hang with me I'm going to share my screen again so in in education you could put classes that you've taken I put this manager as leader at Golden Gate University I put this here in the education because it was at Golden Gate but you also have a section for licenses and certifications classes that you take through LinkedIn they will usually put it into the licenses and certification area here I took this from lynda.com and when I completed it they automatically just put it into my LinkedIn profile okay and here's the actual certification a real certification that I had also we have a section called accomplishments and this is one of the additional sections I was going to talk to you about if you click let me take you up to the top of your profile because this is something that's important um when you're at the top of your profile look David know how to use your computer okay when you're at the top of your profile you get to see this thing saying add profile sections and if you click the pull down it says here are the different things you could do but one thing that's here is called accomplishments but they have a there's a lot of subsections in this so open it up and here if you have actually been published you could put your publication in here if you have any patents because you worked in biotech or any other tech industry if you have your courses you can actually take you put your courses here so um I can click on courses and it says okay here's the courses you could add okay now I don't need to add courses I actually have that section open because I have put my courses already into it sorry this is moving so fast don't get seasick accomplishments so I have if you put something in it then it opens up in your profile so I have here a courses that I've taken adaptive prototyping and e-learning I took that SF state this was just a webinar through my professional association this was also through San Francisco state and this was through linda okay and I have more honors and awards you could put those in I did get published in performance improvement magazine so I put this here in under publications and someone can open it up and see information on the publication so your courses can go into your education or your courses can go under accomplishments courses and you could put it here some of your courses will go into certifications so there are different places where your courses can be tracked I really recommend if you're taking any classes even if you're just you know taking a class online in a youtube class and you take that class you complete the class put it in your linked profile it says to someone this is someone who has a learner's mind this is someone who's continuing to learn so I recommend always to add courses to your material okay so Kirstie are there any other questions I know we're at 11 34 I'm willing to stay a little longer if people are okay thank you um so there's a question do you have to take the test pass the test to list a skill no list the skill and then you can apply for the test if you want I have I don't know maybe 30 skills listed but I I've never taken the test okay thank you do recruiters care about the skills test should I bother taking them it could help it depends on the recruiter on what they're recruiting for so again if you take the skills test it's going to put a kind of a star and it's going to stand out that skills going to stand out to the recruiter so that's the reason to take it that's the reason that they have them there is that it it draws the attention of the recruiter to that skill thank you okay someone else is asking I saw language included as a section is that where to put language skills or in skill section um yeah so it is it is a section under accomplishments um click on this uh so it has language so if you click on language you can put in the language and then the proficiency level so I don't I don't have this open because I'm I'm hardly proficient in English because I'm from Brooklyn so I don't put anything down here my daughters are actually bilingual biliterate in Spanish um and of course they're English speakers so they're native English speakers so you can actually select uh elementary limited full proficiency professional working proficiency or native or bilingual proficiency so they have English native or language proficiency and they have Spanish as native or bilingual proficiency because they're they're they speak both languages uh interactively doesn't matter interchangeably I should say so um now there there's a different function of language and and that we're not going to really have time to talk about but you can um and I says I sit up up at the top of your profile it says add profile in another language um so let's say uh well I have a number of my associates are in Brazil uh when I worked at HP I made a lot of connections down in Brazil I did some speaking down there so I have a number of connections they have their profile in Brazilian Portuguese and also in English so if someone in Brazil opens goes to their profile um LinkedIn would automatically recognize that they're using the .br at the end of their domain and they'll open up the Brazilian version like the Portuguese version of the profile but if they see that it's coming someone coming from the US they'll probably open up the English version of the profile but it doesn't automatically translate you actually have to recreate it in that second language okay so I see a quick question I'm going to just answer this pros and cons to putting language skills in accomplishments versus the skills section um I would put it under accomplishments accomplishments is where you identify the proficiency of that language the skill section just says Spanish language skill doesn't say that I am native by language proficiency or professional uh using professionally so I would put it under the accomplishments section if you have a second language or third or fourth language I see one last question David um what if the courses that you've taken are old taken years ago should you put them I go with that magic word relevant if it's relevant and you think that that I mean if you took courses in in in coding in COBOL unless you're looking for a position as a COBOL coder I wouldn't put that down I mean it doesn't doesn't it doesn't mean anything anymore okay so if you took it when you say a long time ago if you took it two years ago or three years ago and it's still relevant to what you're looking for then you can you can do that yeah I see recommendations were linked to a specific job um they're they're a completely separate section yeah they were years ago recommendations were linked to a particular job that you had posted but not anymore okay well thank you so much David you're wonderful oh well thank you very much I want to just go to my to my slideshow one more time just to show one other thing okay this is stuff that I think you should continue to look at and that is when you signed up for LinkedIn they gave you a LinkedIn address a URL that's very specific to you but it was done with like cryptic almost coding so it might have said linkedin.com slash s slash david robin slash six nine three nine a b c d e f g nobody's going to copy that so you have an opportunity to go into your LinkedIn profile um take a look at your custom URL or public profile and URL tab that's at the top of your edit public profile and URL and when you go to this you can customize that address so that it becomes something that's easy for people to recognize and easy for people to copy in order to find you okay you'll also then learn in here about the second profile that you have that's out there in the public that you can make visible or or make it invisible so I want you to just take a little more time playing with your own LinkedIn and take a look at those other things that are in the slide set that the URL does have a couple of slides to teach you how to do that to change the URL and then you'll see more information there about your public profile okay we want to thank you again David for doing this great presentation thank you for inviting me and hopefully I'll see some of you again April 8th we'll talk about beyond the profile great so we're going to be sending everyone a follow-up email and we're going to include the link the link to this recording so you can watch it again if you like so thank you again for coming to our program thank you David thank you very much have a good day stay safe thank you you too