 Okay, well this movie synchronistically came into mind for everybody at the same time. It arrived two days ago, or a day ago. I ordered four different ones from that. From the producer of these films. They sold really good music. So none of us have seen it, but I think that's the idea of some of the more progressive thinkers from the West going over there to be with the Dalai Lama. I think it's like the case of, of course the Miracles teachers came to visit us. It would be more focusing on transfer of training and practical application and not just tossing about ideas. Because I think some of these figures like Fred Allen Wolf or Barbara Marks Hubbard or whatever, they kind of known for their thinking. Like Barbara Marks Hubbard is known for a futuristic, a futurist and everything. But of course we know from the course that the future is a defense against the truth. So it puts a whole different spin. So I'm sure they're coming to be with the Dalai Lama is more like a symbol of opening their mind more to transfer of training and living the experience which Dalai Lama does quite well. So, so yeah, it feels like it's, it would be kind of a movie kind of flushing, flushing the ego out of its comfort zones and concepts in toward a let go, which is really good because that's extremely practical. That's the best kind of movie we've seen that happen. We have so many transfer of kind of transformation of consciousness movies where the main character goes through a major undoing and so I think it will be good to see that. And in that sense too, it puts things into context like a lot of the quantum teachers and a lot of teachers basically and talk about the ideas pretty well. And you can see the sparkle in their mind and their eye which is I think a reflection of the openness of their mind and yet that's the beginning of the journey. It's not the end of the ego thinks out. Come into quantum, do the hawks and lectures and hit the circuit and whatever. But we've already seen the movie Decoding Deepak where his son takes apart his father and shows all the areas where Deepak is not transferring the training. He's afraid to see his hair cut off and they take his little Muslim Blackberry device away. He's not so happy and they give him a simple little room and he's great with sharing the ideas in books. He's a great articulate one for that and he's used as a symbol from the spirit of bringing many from the spokes a little bit inward from the outer realms and head them towards the center. But then Dalai Lama is just a nice symbol of actually being in the practice of it. Being chosen with Dalai Lama through prayer or through devotional stillness. And then now Dalai Lama has come out and he's ending the tradition of all the Dalai Lamas which is a bold kind of thing which is kind of a symbol of leading traditions behind and going for a state of mind. So that's been pretty shocking. I think that's what the Chinese have wanted all along is him to be the last Dalai Lama and then he comes right out and says I am the last Dalai Lama. Because they for their own reasons they didn't agree with what he was saying but I think that's a pretty interesting thing too. And I did get a chance to talk to I think Desmond Tutu might be in this. I had really good conversations with Desmond when I was down in South Africa and part of the thing was that they were having Desmond's into inclusiveness. He wants everybody included and represented and Desmond really adores the Dalai Lama. They have so much fun laughing together and Desmond was making jokes when we were there. He's like they're trying to make me retire. He said looking around at his staff and he's probably up in his 80s and he was the big smile on his face like he had no intention of retiring. But I was aware I talked with him. He still connected with his Catholic system so when they were going to have Dalai Lama come down to South Africa and the South Africans would not let him in the country which disturbed Desmond because that was his friend. So then they were having a conference in Rome with all these different spiritual leaders from around the world and then Rome would not let the Dalai Lama end. So he had a few things to say to the Pope and the whole Vatican structure. Desmond didn't even know he's part of it. He said it's just not right. So this is not right. This is not the spirit of love and inclusion. So I think there's a couple people in this home at least that are really like spark for God of being inclusive. And I think also we'll see some of the western people going there and kind of pushed out of their comfort zones. And that's part of the practical application of trying to live it. That's all I know about it. I think we'll have more commentary after we see it than before. Because I just saw this a few clips. That's good. Without the Course, the mind is quite a thing to navigate without the Course. Because you're not coming from the Awakened States. It's a big pill to bite as it is. But this is good. It gives a little context to things. There's a lot of ideas as far as putting it into practical experiences. But you can see the one that's doing the main speaking there. He's not really into materialism. We have seen some really good videos recently about exposing... What was the one? It was a TED Talk that was banned at 2 centimeters. It was a group of children. Yeah, it was really good. It was banned TED Talk. And it was really good. And that little Asian guy? No, this guy was a group of children. He's from Manchester. And he went through like 10 points, which was really good. Just undoing the whole thing of materialism and the whole bias of Newtonian science. He did a really good job. That might be something we could watch sometime. It's really brief. It's a really brief talk, but it's 10 points and he goes through them pretty quickly. All the assumptions, yeah. I would love to finish that. I only saw the first five minutes. It's a children. Now we've paused it with three monkeys now. I like those little pause points. That's quite interesting too. This is Fred down here in the left front. He's been sick. It's been a long ride. And his stomach is not agreeing with what Emma is saying. We can pause it there. So then all of us, you know, you can do it with whether it's your own experience which seems to be in your body or even your experience living here in community at the campus at a physical center because it's whatever you experience in your world relating to your body or those around you in the environment that you seem to live in or whatever is just a microcosm of the whole cosmos. It's as if there's actually some kind of world outside of these walls. You could do it with your body or you could do it within these four walls. And then here he's just saying if there are practical problems and issues, if you have emotional issues, if you have issues of faith, if you're still struggling, or he said there's two types of spirituality. One doesn't care what your theology is. It's Christian, Buddhist, Hindu, it doesn't really matter. But it's just this care for one another, sharing if there's issues around that. It's like we can go into the conference with him because he's just showing up there and he's just being very practical like if there are issues of experience that are not harmonious. He said his whole philosophy is that the whole purpose in life is happiness and joy. So anything that's a contradiction to that and he's talking world terms, we know since it's all just perception then you could use it very well within your own experience with the body or outside of the body in your immediate vicinity would work just as well. Because if you were talking about countries and governments, he talked about poverty and hunger. Some of you probably still deal with those thoughts. Maybe on a daily, weekly basis or have some thoughts across your mind or some of the other ones that he's talking about. It's still kind of quiet. We'll see where it all goes but it's good to go at it instead of you're watching a movie of Dalai Lama but you're there at the Synthesis Conference now and you are a full participant and at the end of the movie you'll get to not just make a declaration statement like he says but hopefully be more engaged than just that. Governments do that. The governments all come together and then they say and here we are going to release a statement now. You sure haven't seen this film? I haven't, no. This is beautiful. That's what this is about. Practical spirituality. I had to write out a title, Lisa and I are going to Tony Pondicello's Church CMC. I had to write out a title of a sermon about making no exceptions and forgiveness and then a description and sent it to Sarah to send to him and then a title of an afternoon workshop and then a description of that. We're going to go there and be transparent and talk about making no exceptions. So, it was fun. It was interesting already when I was moving. I don't feel like I've ever had these thoughts before but when I was seeing the poverty it was the first time I started to have these thoughts when I was like, huh? Like, I don't know. It was probably just a hypothetical. How would I actually experience it if that was it? Right in front of me, I guess it was. I was like, oh, it seems okay here but I go with my actual experience. I don't know. There's thoughts you're starting to fill up. That looks unfair or something. We can pause it there. Already they set up light structure but there's a big announcement from the witness who was supposed to be mute witnesses. He was a witness? That was a witness and all the witness did was talk the entire time objecting to the structure that was set up just reacting to the structure of a group of sitting around the table that would be talking, you know, so it would be like we had our lunchtime expression session and then people would sit around the table and eat and then we would just have a group holding the presence of love for non-judge but during the expression session almost like a symbolic ring of just holding the presence on the outside not just purposely standing there to not judge or react to anything that is being spoken. I think that was kind of their intention. We have a real nuance for that but you can see here's some guy who's probably published and he's a progressive western thinker to even get invited to be a part of this program and he's invited in to be a mute witness and he's not happy about that assignment but you can start to see the reaction to even the lightest of structures that's quite interesting. I was talking to this woman in Australia who's going to come to be part of our community, Helena but she had I guess she was sent to the website by Ricky to fill out the devotional stay application which is a common thing and then in there it talks about limited conversations with family and use of cell phones and typical things that over the years we've found just helpful for people coming for a short devotional stay she's seen, she's coming, this is her whole life she's listening to the father every day, she's having major kind of experiences and everything and she's had a little bit of a reaction say why are all the limits why am I coming into a community with all these limits and I said well I had to give the context of the whole thing but I said no you're not really I said we really at the core of our guidelines is just two people pleasing no private thoughts those core guidelines are designed to open up if there's anything hidden or kept down and repressed it's designed to bring them up up and out for healing and she said oh yeah I like those I just want to love everyone she's got five brothers three of them are studying the course in Columbia her father's tilting towards the course and she, I love maybe once a week talking to my family and how's it going with the course and we have very purposeful communications and why would I not do something like that so it's good we got into the whole context of things whereas a lot of times people come and for example like with Ricky, her brother or sister mother you know believes she was joining a cult and working with the devil more fundamentalist it gave her the whole context there are some that actually that benefits because every one of those encounters is like you know because it's you have to build your confidence and strength in the miracles but yeah it was interesting already and you see Fred is kind of smiling there though he's probably looking at the irony of like here we go the witness has done most of the talking first he was telling Amit he was dominating the conversation now he gets thrown in his first little small group and the mute witness does more talking than anybody else they can't even get going to have a world cafe because the mute witness is so bent out of shape it's pretty funny when you look at it I'm getting back my voice like this way that's what was underneath that up verses I'm just getting back my voice like the slaves that's good and that's what we're trying to create okay we can pause it there in this community there's sometimes a thing about messengers and non-messengers and the messengers is like do we hold that container or do we let that container go and is there a value you know they've invited these participants to come and then there's others that are saying let me in let me in the container and then sometimes there's some that are in the container they can get me out of here get me out of this container it's all just thoughts it's all just thoughts and so the structure that even seems to be there or the levels that even seem there are symbolic but again the guy that came in was the mute witness self the first thing he was hammering it was a hierarchy there's a hierarchy here it was a hierarchy he was very upset at being a mute witness and like just to take it so deep enough to say wow that's that's the way projection works to see something through the body's eyes to see something in the world that you do not like but it wouldn't even be there to perceive unless you wanted it to be there you couldn't even perceive a boundary you couldn't even perceive a like they're calling it what is it a container you couldn't even perceive a container unless you believed in such things so it's all what we're saying is it's all consciousness it's all mind and the only rest that you ever can have and come to have in the mind is to see that it doesn't come down to unique expressions it doesn't come down to individual contributions it doesn't come down to a synthesis of parts even there are no parts parts are made up too it doesn't come down to cooperation between the parts because there are no parts it's a vertical alignment with spirit coming back to pure consciousness the unified field where everything is one and so this is a good movie for that because you can see that they're showing the monks they're showing old footage from the 50s they're showing current footage they're showing the motions of the monks and their discussions with great passion and vehemence and then you can see the synthesis group is there and they're getting very passionate and talking about 45 minutes is not enough time for synthesis the chaos has emerged time allotted that you've given us chaos has emerged and the one guy said that we are here to let all that come up and bubble up he said there's no one here who's coming in and expecting the same that they came with when actually that's very spiritual if you really came with holiness with forgiveness in your mind then you could come with it and you could leave with it you could come and leave in the very same state of mind the very thing that the guy was saying none of us here are going to do that he was meaning it more as come egoically stuck with something and leave in the same thing but that's pretty much how it goes in the ego you always everything is like a kaleidoscope just shifting around but there's the same discontent the same unrest and conflict in the mind until you forgive and then when you forgive it's all the same you do come with the same purpose in the intent the same state of mind and you do leave so to speak with the same state of mind when that's your soul intention that's your single intent so it's kind of it's a good movie it's got a lot of we can keep bringing it back to what we're dealing with in a practical way with thoughts on a daily basis not about we're not coming together with the summit every day in the cafe to try to solve the world problems we've got one problem that's enough and we're told it's already solved but we must not be defining it correctly if we still perceive that it's still there if we're told very certainly that it's gone it's already gone so it's good these little reflections like we're right there with them we're going down the rabbit hole with them I think anytime you see one of these kind of films whether it's Dalai Lama or Martin Luther King or Mary Ann Williamson the leaders the spiritual leaders that people feel are resonance with but that are appealing more to the masses are those that speak a lot in you can hear an essence coming of where they're pointing towards to try to find a solution but I just always am given more and more appreciation for the course of miracles when you watch these you have a much much much much greater context for how simple this is compared to the complexities of the world where it's still like the prayer wheels spinning and you will see even among them you saw people that were into quantum physics but political activists the whole panorama and the range and at the end you know even the ones telling where they are now you know they kind of these kind of thought patterns just seem to keep perpetuating but you know for yourself it just really brings it back to like a value of really waking up with gratitude everyday that you're in you're seeing a reflection of a world or even a community or a personality self but it's all reflections of this real devotional practice that you know they kind of came around to in the end seeing that we have to change we have to get faced with the to bets in our own mind which we really came around to starting to see that it's a perceptual problem which is what we talk about all the time and not to get caught up into trying to fix the world or change the world as if the world is apart from from mind and consciousness so to put full attention on that and I think just from your experience as you can tell that even that takes quite quite a focus and attention and an effort on a daily basis just to face whatever clouds are crossing the mind they use the word confront I mean to confront evil, confront error, confront just take a look at it and how beyond concepts of like countries that are you know like Tibet and China those kind of things and this and this that you could even as I was saying earlier just to how do you experience your own you know awareness of the body what goes on with the body the body itself is just a symbol but it's like a cosmos in and of itself so everything that you experience with the body is really cosmic it's not it's not really a microcosm it's all the same you know with the two commandments love the Lord thy God with all their hearts hold might and love thy neighbor as they self so any judgements against a brother or sister just even using this community you know that that's just a perfect caldron or a perfect trial for practicing we would call compassion but I had an interview recently with this woman Oka who I did on compassion but it was going more towards true empathy coming into what's real and true and being able to stay with that having the desire to stay with the truth not to try to solve something that's not really the issue so yeah I get to see this has a lot of everything we watch has great practical application but this you know it seems to play out in the scale of westerners going over to meet the Dalai Lama but you can see that like he was doing with the example of the mosquito it plays out in a much more direct way than anything like that and all the seeming projects that we work on and all the seeming extensions or recently the focus with the mystery school and everything it's all comes back to a state of mind coming to that consistency of peace stillness not desiring to be drawn away from that to drawn into perceptual conflicts that aren't really real or interpersonal personal dramas and aren't really real just watching the mind when it wants to be drawn into something like that and just being able to say I don't want to go there anymore I want to use my mind's energy for that kind of movement so I think it's good what did everyone see did anyone have any big aha moments or fights with yes it was just when I started to get into this whole discussion of you know we've got to have a long term strategy and we've got to bring people together we've got to keep having these discussions I just felt this kind of sense of like that's just so exhausting I mean I just it's like 40 years ago I think I realised already that that doesn't work in terms of my parable but it's just that idea that somehow that way of trying to fix things stays even and seemingly in the mind of the Dalai Lama this idea that we can if we get everybody together and just work things out we can solve the problems of the world and that's the whole thing of history repeating itself it just keeps going on it never actually gets fixed and yet there's almost like a blindness to that that's the sort of experience that I have when I watch that kind of thing how many things does one see like that we're going to solve the problems of the world and as you say I mean there's just there's got to be just there's got to be another way that's really what it comes down to when you talk about the course giving us that other way I mean it really is it's very, very meaningful just have such a strong sense of the futility of that it's like the thing from the Bible the ecclesiasties you know meaningless and meaningless are chasing after the wind it's like what what humanity has been doing forever has never worked yet so it's a great insight in that if it's not that that's one of those neti neti not that and you can see that clearly then then it's more there's an opening in the mind an opening in the heart to see that means and end are the same that you're there is no doer doing anything is a means for future doings it's the whole construct of the doer is a denial of presence the whole construct of a person of a sentient being of a compassionate person or of a loving person or of a peaceful person or even a happy person is a complete contradiction in terms because the whole personal perspective itself is a denial of what is of what Byron Katie would say what is so you know I saw in there that I could feel beneath the words there's a call for simplicity there's a call for experience there's a call for happiness there's a call for what they call core basic human values which aren't really human at all love is not really human and that we don't have to try to mix that when you come into an experience and you experience that experience then the words are given in a very involuntary way we saw Dalai Lama at eight years old and then we see him in black and white footage then we see him in 1959 you know coming out of Tibet and into India and over the years and now current footage but all of that is underneath it there is a much simpler solution and it's it is one of motivation he called it we call it purpose and so on and so forth but it's atonement might be equated with total escape from the past and total lack of interest in the future there are no future generations there is no future solution there is nothing long term it's like it's coming to a realization that the atonement the correction right now involves a total escape from the past and a total lack of interest in the future and then you can just feel that the carefreeness the you might say I don't know mind the sense of openness with that the energy spontaneity with that the newness with that everything that's everything and this idea of trying to reconcile anything or even reconcile the words or figure anything out about anything in the world you know you have to come to an absolute realization that it cannot be figured out ever and all frustration comes from trying to figure out what was made to never be figured out a projection, a smoke screen wasn't designed to be figured out it's like a trick, it's a riddle you know it's an unanswerable question and so this is really you know I think by watching movies like this and working with these ideas that we're working with you know this should be a contrast experience like I don't need to save the world piece by piece because it's not a piece by piece solution I don't need to do this one person at a time all the rhetoric of you know it's supposed to really get you interested after a while it just it doesn't, you see it's impossible it's impossible to wake up with a happy heart and to give yourself that much permission to just be happy regardless of whatever the form seems to be that is not a small thing, you could tell that's what the reflection was the laughter happiness, I don't understand behind I'm a simple monk is there is a simple spirit that's behind this mask and behind all appearances and that's important you know that's that's reality you'll see different ideas there from the different thinkers and about you know you create your own reality common thing Amit was talking about beginning with quantum physics that's nonsense there is no creating of reality it's already been created it's eternal it can't be manipulated, it can't be changed it's just what is and the human beings have nothing to do with that it's just to construct this blocking reality we'll say from awareness so you know a lot of even the progressive ideas are still the same old that you were talking about and it still seems to involve like a group effort or collective there's no collective collective what? you have to have something to collect there aren't separate minds and consciousnesses there aren't separate sentient beings you have to see past the whole thing in the end and how glorious it is that we have that opportunity just to be happy just to be happy I was talking to that woman Helen who I met down in Sydney she wants to join us devote her whole life for most times we're saying come to a gathering or whatever she's already done that the father told her type into google when is David Hofmeister coming to Sydney Australia that's how she came to the gathering and then when she was at the gathering she just was like I want to love God I want to serve God without my heart and I'll go anywhere and I'll do anything I have no reservations I have nothing holding me back and so then that started the connection and then I guess I was told by Ricky to fill out an application and already came in today the reservation was I want to love her what do you mean my communication is limited she reacted to the idea that what we were teaching is limited involved limited communication I said no, no, no we're not those are just guidelines in context but it's not for everyone you know we had a meeting the other day where I was like can we agree this meeting everyone who comes must go through the mystery school and I said well now you have to bring the mystery school to the saint and see if that lasts you know the sainthood state of mind will dissolve every construct you can't think of it in just in terms of running people through some kind of a model and thinking that's going to produce something it's a state of mind the greatest thing that could happen to this place is have the Christ show up at the door and go I don't believe anything you're talking about and to go thank you come on in I'd like to meet you you know it's it wouldn't be surprising that Jesus will start sending us reflections of what we're all praying for which is there's only now and and a happiness and a joy and a laughter all these seeming collaborative projects are all just for a state of mind Jesus doesn't mind if you sit around in lounge chairs and watch movies and laugh and eat popcorn you know it's not like there's an external world to say but it's if there's not exuberant he says in lessons 163 and 167 that anything that is not supreme happiness is death that means everything that's not supreme happiness is death without exception he even mentions a little sigh of weariness death the bar is high a little sigh of weariness is death the bar is high and we're praying for that experience what's the whole point of self realization what's on our wall know thyself thyself is not some collective experience because there is no collective it's just giving yourself fully over to call it whatever you want just happiness if you want to keep it really simple you know self honesty about happiness that's a good good place to start am I happy if you want a cohen or something there's a good one am I happy he was saying it at the end oh what's happiness we don't want to die we want to be happy he was really getting pretty strong and forceful at the end around that point interesting point he was very animated about we don't want to die we want to be happy it's very simple very direct so yeah I join with you in not not giving your mind over to thoughts that really actually go nowhere and aren't even there they aren't to be believed they aren't to be given faith I mean I've had to listen for 25 years people have said to me they'll get me over to the side and they'll say David you have to reach people where they are and I said oh yeah where are they let's look at that if they're the Christ that's where they are so to speak then if that is your devotion then it will come through in the most loving, joyful appropriate and helpful way particularly with one on one when you're in a crowd Jesus tried it with crowds again there was only one one self anyway but the ego is legion the ego is not too happy with this simple message it had one response after three years it kind of finally delivered this response crucify, kill him, get that voice shut down because it's the ego's world and the ego of course doesn't look with kindness or charity on anything it's a death wish it finally exposed came out in the raw, came out naked kill him, crucify him that's what it always was and that's what it always will be until you see that it's not a reality then that's when things get funny but until then it seems like a serious serious thing anyone else had any feelings when they watched this movie? I love kind of expressing it was like a nice contrast like all this kind of complicated and he's even said it this is complicated and just starting out also I think just having had that experience throughout just through this sense of most perceiving of poverty and then just kind of like what Charles expressed and that's for myself this sense of hopelessness just in that sort of way I got to touch with that and I guess just which is a good thing but seeing like there is only one way there has to be the mind has to have its perception healed it's really a misperception just having to confront a little bit I don't know I just I really felt really personal something like I really felt like I was on the journey and I felt like I felt really personal I'm thinking what Jesus said in the Course he said it's not that you ask for too much it's that you ask for far too little well if that's the case if I've just been asking for far too little what could I ask for what about miracle principle number 23 from A Course in Miracles you can heal the sick and raise the dead because you made sickness and death and can abolish them both how about that for setting your sights on something instead of will I be a messenger or will I get to travel and teach and all these foolishness how about go bigger than that or oh I can heal the sick and raise the dead you know open your mind to the possibilities of what this is really about because that's where the fruits come in this woman I've been talking to about coming over here Helen she did seem to you know get sicker and sicker sicker and was kind of laid out and really was going through the dying process and basically was just laying and couldn't couldn't move just like she was dying and then there was one thing that came into her mind and the idea was this is only a thought it's the one idea that came into her mind and with that she thought hmm then I can drop this thought and then there was seemingly a corresponding you know recovery in the body but it started with this is only a thought because whatever you're going through if it's only a thought that can be changed changing your mind about that but there's a lot of power right in that tiny little example and you know this that's what this is about that's what this whole awakening is about that's what this community is about the properties are nothing the practices are nothing really the rituals whatever they seem to be are not it either but it's just coming fully to accept the power of the mind and that a thought can be changed that something that was thought can be unthought in some way and that's very very impactful that's something that really didn't fully come up in the whole conference but for us it is something that's coming up I can change my mind I have the power to change my mind it doesn't matter what I seem to make I can change my mind about that and everything will change accordingly that means everything in the entire cosmos because the only thing that Jesus says any living thing can know is what it is it can only know its identity it doesn't really matter what the form seems to be so I think that's really powerful when you think wow here I'm just at that point where I can face that in all the other issues that seem to be issues like the big complexity that oh Tibet's complicated and this is complicated everything about the world is complicated and Adam is complicated everything but identity is not it's not simple so it's beautiful that we had that opportunity to change our mind about identity regardless of what seemed to be made it doesn't really matter I think with that there's lots of laughter anything can be funny politics is funny that's why I get to open my browser and just it doesn't matter what it is it's funny I think for myself just something I've been noticing happening with me I'm sure it's always been like that but it's really been in my face it seems to be a reaction to something my experience of it is that it kind of at least lately takes over pretty quickly and then the way I experience it is like I have the same vision I forget or I don't know how to let go of the thought or change my mind I guess I'm seeing some sort of value and I'm noticing some deep frustration with I guess the fact that I'm valuing conflict I can't let it go I just want it I heard a line in a movie I just watched over a masterpiece it's in my collection and it's called Deja Vu but the line that's delivered is maybe there is no such thing as an illusion coming closer there's always the power of interpretation so when there's a sharp judgment or conflict or whatever even if it seems involuntary almost like a knee jerk involuntary reaction to something that there always it's just behind it is the truth coming closer it's just there the fleeting instant that you can behold that which is real that's right beyond it the frustrating thing can be time if it seems to linger more than the fleeting instant that's what this whole world is is trying to draw out and distract and make seem long what really isn't even there so that's the frustration of it nonetheless you have to feel the gratitude of it just even coming into awareness for healing there is a huge gratitude underneath it as you can tap into it just seems so out of the human awareness like why would I be grateful for such a horrific feeling and a horrific judgment but it is the truth coming closer it is self permission to let it up up and out like a specific that's in my mind just the other night with Utah there was basically there was just a misunderstanding in my mind it just got so quick and then so vicious my experience the truth is I felt like I lost control of them just so much projection being thrown at Utah necessary and then basically just trying to get some space and I felt like I couldn't help it but I was following her and then she like back off and actually go outside and get some space and I was like what the fuck is going on and I've tried to just you know push away or anything just trying to like delete the gold yeah it's really what you've signed up for I mean how many workshops would you go to how many gatherings how many communities would you visit if they had as their slogan discover the Hitler within you know or expose the Hitler within the murderous vicious thought Jesus is quite quite descriptive actually so it's like we get a clue when we read the book when we listen to those sections that I speak and those workbook lessons you know we know we're going to have to face whatever comes up as vicious as it may even seem to be but it's also a sense that underneath it you know that's what you're here for you're here for the healing you're not here to push it out and project it out into the future some thousands of years from now it's more like they were saying there we have to directly face things and that's what's happening so in that sense instead of trying to hold it somebody would give you you wouldn't try to hold it you would drop it and more and more you start to see that those things may come but you will become more and more willing to drop it it's just shocking to you to think that you could hold on to that for a period of hours or whatever of stark raving madness like lunacy you know without losing total control that's a very scary, scary emotion but it's also something that's been pushed down there and we can't be free of it without allowing it to come up and pass through to see it differently so it is self-forgiveness you're just forgiving the darkness that you were I feel so responsible for yeah that's the thing attaching the responsibility everyone talks about but he says in the course you are not responsible for the error you are only responsible for accepting the correction you are not responsible for the error so that's a saving grace again comes in he's saying no do not go there you know because then it just holds on to a personal identity is that persons can do wrong or persons can do right it's a never ending circle and loop if you go down that way so you know there's an enormous opportunity here for forgiveness in the deepest sense of forgiveness and the ego when it comes it can be very horrifying but again you don't have to stop you don't have to stop there and be paralyzed and frozen in that horror every day when we have expression sessions every joining on the mystery school every slight look or glance in the kitchen or in the hallway anywhere you know it's like really honestly you can look at every day thousands of opportunities of profound release you know a miracle Jesus says can save thousands of years as the world judges it one miracle can save thousands of years as the world judges it and we're here for to be miracle minded to have many many miracles and save millions of years even those parts in the course about the separation occurred over millions of years and the reparation might occur in a longer time he says people go is that supposed to be encouraging but that's all just metaphors of time he's really saying no no come come with me into forgiveness come into this presence feel the innocence now he's drawing us and anything that's standing in the way comes shooting up into awareness so that feeling you're not doing something wrong you know again you know we're all joined together and that's why you're here and you're here for a tenement you're not even here to be Saint Nicholas even though there could be you know that could be a symbol along the way the key to it would always say forget the holy land is over at least we have the holy land right here and we have we have a gathering of all saints we've come together to be the gathering of all saints I was just singing that was it yesterday I was singing to this group out there I'll win the saints go marching in go marching in I'm meaning here they come they're going to start sending us the saints and we're called to be the saints because if not us who it's like if you open your mind to a tenement what would you expect to come out of that of accepting the correction for the whole error of all time and space you know that's it's opening your mind in broader parameters to let your self concept be shifted radically by Jesus by the expansive self-concepts that are far beyond what the world recognizes I think Artin and Persa said that during this this next next century that there'll be like teleportation and things why would we doubt that I mean if you look at what's happened in the last hundred years why would you doubt you know and wouldn't that be a whole different context you know instead of did you purchase your airline tickets and what flight are on do you have an exit row or this is you know this is this is a mystical reflection of mind and we can't put too much of a lid onto the possibilities we have to kind of remove the limits of what's coming not to just look back into the past of past generations they're born they grow old they grow sick and they die so what they're born they grow old they undo, they release they teleport they teleport all over the place and they ascend like I said a little different story why not why not who says that can't be done that can't be a symbolic representation you know Jesus says it's not that you ask for too much it's that you ask for far too little so let's stop asking for far too little and we're not going to use stories from the past and doubts, thoughts and fear you know that that day is over that's what's the past that's history I got in touch with I feel like I've seen it before but it just really was in my face this this deep desire that I need to be punished they're like images in my mind they're like whips intense I didn't really realize it it was like that in my mind and then I was getting past memories just kind of growing up self-discipline whenever I misbehave I kind of slap in the face when I was much younger and just realizing why I don't like it's so far beyond what I know for there not to be punishment for a seeming mistake I just really I really have no idea what that is or is like it was just like I was getting honest to myself like I really believed in getting a mistake because there was punishment especially for myself somebody knows I felt pretty profound in myself to kind of notice that's what's going on with these women a little bit but yeah I don't want to stay there I feel this innocence feel that seeming mistakes don't require punishment deserve punishment whatever form that is really it's I was feeling it mostly in my mind I think it was actually happening to me which actually was a big surprise yeah it's just again it's a position from say sin and punishment to mistake and correction you know mistakes do call for a correction and there are no such things as sins like uncorrectable mistakes so the whole sin and punishment thing is out the window it has no validity but we can start to think of mistakes and correction and it's good it's actually healthy you know when there's a sense of remorse like oh it was terrible I thought a terrible thing or I said a terrible thing or I did a terrible thing and then there's a sense of remorse like a sense of sadness or regret or whatever still that's just a contrast experience again to then say oh remorse calls for correction grief calls for correction sadness calls for correction shock calls for correction horrific feeling calls for correction that's really the point of everything and you have something that's a real alternative there to punishment which you know God doesn't know of and really it's quite arrogant to hold on to that that concept, that belief but we do need interjections oh yeah it's right, correction if I give this to the Holy Spirit he will correct he will correct the error and he will correct all the consequences all the seeming consequences of that error as well almost like if they all spun out he can just pull them all back kind of like in that movie Tron Tron, yeah when he puts his hands down and then it draws the whole error, the whole projection back with the great force and that's what you have to focus on it's great that we can really shine and share the good news when I see a movie like that and you see Fred through the whole movie and then Fred's finally coming into this place where he's like I have an ego I'm arrogant and people start smiling and reaching over and tapping him on the back because it's like you can start to really zoom into how adorable everyone really is and how you so much want to extend the good news of freedom and innocence and happiness and all of these instead of seeing them all in what the bleep and all these kind of things you get to see a bit behind the scenes which is so beautiful because you feel they're adorable they're just calling calling that's why we're here to share the good news that's why we have these collaborative projects and we welcome you just never know Gabby Bernstein told me she used to stay up late at night and just couldn't sleep and all these things going through her mind and just watch my YouTube videos and how wonderful and helpful it was I get a lot of reflections back but there's so much that goes into it I happen to speak it somebody happen to record it somebody happen to edit it to do all the subtitles and transcriptions and books and on and on and on intros and outros and all these things it's just like a symphony of collaboration that comes together for somebody up late at night going thank God that's just the thing some people write and they say it's the funniest thing every time there's a living miracles virtual broadcast or a YouTube I just whenever I have a problem I just turn on something and the answer is right there thank you for doing what you're doing because it's like wow this is a great pathway to God I have an issue and then boom the answer is given immediately in some way that's rewarding that we would even let our doings be guided by the spirit in a way that instant answers come instead of hacking and searching and all the things we've tried journaling and all the stuff try to get down to it and then boom it's just so quick I love hearing that you never get tired of hearing that just what I needed to hear yeah hear the voice go up a couple of octaves they're so excited for me it was almost shocking valuable kind of it was almost even nauseous I was like I'd be kidding like grateful at the same time so it was you got to go through film you took your pilgrimage to India absolutely with all of the progressive thinkers you got your ashram experience two hours two hours you teleported yeah you did teleport you really did you teleported to India even the Dalai Lama come over here and I'll put something over your neck if you want yeah I just want we'll just we'll just we'll just we'll just we were just re-enacting you can't take it off for three weeks the whole we saw the whole we saw it is striking it is striking yeah I can tell actually I think I knew but somehow this was like visceral or something I was like every tone so I'd be looking in your pants I'd be like are you kidding me like something about it so I don't know I guess I have to take responsibility for this but it got affected by arrogance too I could just see so much like arrogance like almost along with that goes this feeling like I think so much even coming right away just to be heading out on the road you know but given for something much deeper and that came up but not for that like I don't have to do that now or something like it's all tied in I'm quick yeah say thousands of years you don't have to wear the robes and the rituals and mosquito bites and everything it's all you know it's collapsed thousands and thousands of years and the feeling you had even recently where you feel like what all seems to be done here is really it's not for what seems to be the people here now which is what the world would say well what you're doing is you're doing it for your personality cells but it was for something much greater like a much greater plan like a huge contribution for something that's way beyond the body and beyond the five senses it's great because this whole thing about a group selected in synthesis and then rebelling against the facilitators and rebelling against the process and all these things and then there's this almost this beautiful voice of Jesus behind it all this need not be this need not be none of this need be you know save yourself countless efforts and countless years just to be able to hear that to be able to start to feel that when you see things just going the reenactments I would like how in the movie they would go they would show the Alay Lama then they would go to the scene of all the participants kind of bickering and struggling and this and this and this and at one point then they just show people dancing around with masks and some crazy loud music and children standing naked you know almost like like a little relief cinematic relief from the bickering and the arguing of the progressive thinkers these are like the progressive thinkers then let's show some naked children and some dancing with masks and some old Tibetan sayings and all this cultural stuff which we've all grown up with cultures and so when we see another one it's like yada yada yada okay dance dance and you're casting out the evil you know it's seen in a million times but this is just a different form it's like what is this filler space this is you're getting away from the arguing and bickering to throw some b-roll or something but in the end it's all you know that's the fun part of it it can come back to those early lessons that thing I see means anything I've given everything I see all the meaning it has for me and it's still never meant a damn thing with all of that it never meant anything there's something light and humorous about that you can't mess it up because there was never an it to mess up that's relieving too that's this huge innocence behind it you can't mess it up because there was no it to mess Jason's taking off his headdress I can share no no they don't watch your socks you use you use socks even if it's plastic it's funny that cut the movie which was just a contrast of all like in conflict and all that it's almost like the resistance towards having the mind change about the world having a healed perception because if there's a healed perception there's nothing to be saved there's nothing to be saved then you miss out on getting to be the hero of the dream it's almost like changing my mind that I don't get to be the hero it's all really funny that I've heard that I felt like there was a summary of my mind it's quite funny when you think that all things work together for good when you this idea of 1959 being chased out of Tibet dressed up like a regular person and chased out and driven out look at how wonderful the life unfolded from being chased out of Tibet you're going to sit up on a bunch of rocks up at high altitude you're going to go all over and hug people and bless people and do it's been spectacular you couldn't you couldn't have manifested a better life you're just going to stay up and sit in a temple and people come around and kiss your feet and whatever after so many decades of that it's cold up there too unless you've transcended time and space you're up there you've got to go out where he's apparently he's got a lot of friends here in Utah Suzanne was saying that but you know that whole thing it's a different perspective where you see nothing ever happens against you everything without exception exception happens for you for your mind everything happens for your mind in a blessing for your mind and it's only the ego that tries to see it from a personal perspective that there's some things that are for you personally and against you personally but there's no person there to be treated well or mistreated, you know it's the same error in the direction and you can apply that gracious healed perception to any memory that you have any relationship memory any thought of abandonment rejection thought of being turned down passed over, blah blah blah blah just the whole thing you can apply that same graciousness that everything was working together for your good whether you saw it or not that's the fact of it so everything was there waking you up and you may have judged against some of it but in the end you go thank you when he said something about do you just want it to be a quiet knock simple simple so no don't don't know what it was but that line and then there was this feeling of yeah, I get that there's also something about that because I feel like my entire life it's almost been like almost like trying to fit into a world that I couldn't fit into it's almost like opting out I'm trying to get up on this it's almost like seeing that it's being almost like a symbol of opting out like I'm opting out I'm not going to play but then I think arrogance or humility what's the difference I'm thinking about that there's my own path now when am I really going to be humble is that really humble when I opted or do that in my mind and say no no no I'm just going to stand on their side and not say anything or whatever right now I'm just talking it's actually a big thing for me it's not I'm not sure I'm going with all this but it just feels like an important aspect of my healing somehow to face something in my mind where I've been kind of like cowering since most of my life you know Jesus has like stopped cowering you don't actually have to cower yeah yeah it's like that one woman commented near the end of how what an amazing presence it was but but there was also this sense of simplicity to it I would say it's not simplicity in the individual or being a simple monk or anything but it is the simplicity and the glory of just for one instant just seeing the possibility of the whole self-concept which includes the body and everything in the cosmos that surrounds the body you start to see the in one instant an experience of the vastness of what's really there sometimes people have that through a drug experience who have ecstasy or ayahuasca or something where they just they're like whoa for one instant all the everything is gone just like a giant glimpse into the vastness of reality and so yeah it's interesting that this lady at the end was saying that he's held so highly so highly regarded so highly respected so highly adored and so on so forth and yet in the simplicity of the moment of listening, of just twinkling of there's like a merge that doesn't have that any of that adulation or whatever because leave me with all that adulation that the Chinese government is not holding him in adulation at all the flip side of this anger and you'll never get back and don't even recognize this and this and this it's all it's all the self-concept salvation it's one of them I'm going to do my talk on when I go next month to San Francisco self versus self-concept salvation is nothing more than the escape from concepts and that includes everything that is perceived so it's quite a strong beautiful passage about emptying the mind to accept salvation and that the Holy Spirit even exchanges self-concepts so so as you're being used there will be you're not hurled into abstraction you get little stepping stones self-concepts each one's a little more seemingly than a little broader a little more vast a little less limited than the previous one so it's kind of like a ladder symbolic ladder that goes back so you it's good that you can just notice that if you try to defer or play small or or hide or anything just to pay attention to that to notice it to be more conscious of it and then it says show me show me Saint Susan okay well that was another great one saved another thousand years