 Hundreds and hundreds of bodies sliding the streets. Panic spread worldwide after a leaked report from the World Health Organization. What do we do about stuff that we don't know about? How do we keep an honest? You mentioned surveillance a few times there. How do we look for new stuff? Where are we looking for it? For the plan of that list of diseases that could cause or that scientific community thinks that they can cause outbreaks and pandemics, and then the idea in the last couple of years, and there's more funding coming to it, is actually to be prepared for that, to create vaccines and to develop them to a certain phase, that we call, let's say, phase one, safety in human, and sort of shelf that against all these diseases. And if an epidemic would start, first it would not start as brutally as that, so there would be time to notice it, as Stine Manson mentioned, and then we would then use that sort of ready-made vaccine for stage, that was exactly the case as Ebola. The research was done in the early 2000. There was a vaccine, a prickly decant, candidates made, and that's why it went so fast when it came out, and the vaccine could then be progressed very quickly to a phase one and a phase two and so on. The idea is then to fund research on this list of diseases so that we prepare as much as we can vaccines that are ready, not commercialised, but then could be used in that situation before it gets out of control, let's say. So that's the preparedness plan. OK, so be prepared then. Be prepared in terms of vaccines. We can't stop globalization, but how can we mitigate its effects, maybe? I think it's extremely difficult to mitigate the effects. I mean, one thing that's interesting to look back to is the 1918-1919 flu pandemic, which killed more people than the First World War. Even in that case, it turned out that it was carried on ships across the Atlantic, and you saw it within a few months spreading across the world. And now we're so much more mobile. There's so many weather, just weather sort of fruits, livestock, but also people travelling across. I mean, you can have scanners at airports or do various things to try and check whether people have elevated temperature and so on. I think it can reduce the risk, but the likelihood of catching every case, and if you have a sort of highly infectious disease, then even if a few cases get through, you can still start an epidemic, and if the conditions are right, you can still get out of control. So it's likely to give you a bit more time or to create a bottleneck, which will mean that you've got more time to get things sorted out. But I think the likelihood of, as it were, keeping our septid isle pure from infectious disease by scanning people who are coming through the borders, it's probably a eukip fantasy. So you either catch everyone, or you don't catch anyone. There's a sort of point of, scientifically, it's an incubation period. So there's this period where you got the disease, well, the burger, I mean, not yet the disease, you got the bug. It's not yet caused the disease. You don't show it, then you would cross the border and have no temperature, and then the disease comes out. I think SARS is a bit in that area where you had this sort of five days, and actually the disease would come when you'd be in hospital, and that's where you infected all the healthcare workers. So in that case, I think it's interesting to know how much they give time. You breathe the spore and how long before the people get infected. If it's very short, actually it's somewhat easier to contain than this sort of period where you carry it, and then you can take it everywhere in the world with nobody noticing, and then it comes out. So short is not good for the bug. A couple of days in this case. A couple of days. Yeah, I guess it's a dangerous area. The R number, is that right? The number of people that it would infect per person, yeah. So many people expect what the R number is. Only very briefly, Australia, a kind of virus or an infection would get an R number as to how many people it is likely to infect. So if you came in contact with 10 people and it had an R value of 1 or something like that, or 0.1, it would affect the equivalent percentage of people. So just kind of tagging on to the back end of your discussion there with the incubation period. I think that's a really interesting point to bring up as well, because that's one of the big challenges. Because if you're not symptomatic, then you could quite easily pass through controls. And even if you're asked to fill in, which during the SARS outbreak you were asked to fill in health cards when you went through an airport, you might not know that you've infected, or you might not wish to disclose that. You're in some ways expecting people to be completely honest with their health conditions without any guarantee of what will happen to them if they do disclose that kind of condition. Can I say a bit more about the R number? It's kind of a really important point. You can do it mathematically, but maybe the key thing to remember is that if you can start with one person and then they infect five people, each one of those five people infect five more people, each one of those five infect five more people, before you know it, the whole world can be infected with a very short period. Get off the street, people! Move it!