 Reiner Halama from Uzi Wuselig from the German Wikipedia and I'm a Kulturbohrchafter. Kulturbohrchafter, okay, what is that? Funny name. Kulturbohrchafter is somebody who works in culture, culture of Germany, civilisations in some countries, synonymous with culture. So I just put on the wiki data items so you can look it up in your own language what we're talking about. It's also like it's and the Boatchafter part is the ambassador or an envoy and we're working in Glam but it's like Shakespeare said what's in the name but if it is Rose you know you can name it by it smells as good if it's called by any other name. So let's talk about the concept and not about the name. If you like the concept you can still find a better name in an international context. So what is the need for this? I tried to picture our wiki verse and the universe we're working in. We have institutions, we have the whole world, we want to have the sum of all knowledge. We have our wiki verse on top and we have the foundation and chapter on the top and on the bottom and we have some individual user there who is trying to negotiate in this big metaverse if you want to call it that way. But the problem is even if I might be considered by some from my community or not as a big shot if I try to reach some institution I'm just a small little things smaller than perhaps any of those people down below. On the other hand the people down below and even the people in institutions when they think about Wikipedia all they see is a wiki page that might pop up when they made a Google search. That's all they know about Wikipedia. And so if they try to get into the wiki verse they see individuals with funny user names, unknown expertise, all funny things, it's a close community to them even though we try to be open but to them we're still closed. And if we approach an institution we also are faced with experts. There's an hierarchy in those institutions. So whom do we approach? You have departments there, you have public relations, social media, you have people who are working in research and science. So yeah, how do these worlds get together? So I would call I called a kind of triangle of communication and you had the question marks that are between us. I already pointed those out. And if you have the institutions when they try to approach anybody from Wikipedia or Wikimedia as they know it, they would like to do that on an eye to eye level. In other words they prefer to have somebody who has a postal address, an email address, a telephone number to reach to. And that is of course usually in my case in Germany it is Wikimedia Deutschland. That's the one they would try to approach. Now Wikimedia Deutschland on one hand says but we are not doing any content intervention. I mean that is the thing of the volunteers and the users. So in other words we're going to have to find somebody in the community to do those things that the institutions actually want to have done. And of course, yes, I as a normal user, I get support at the infrastructure. And if I want to approach the institution in the name of Wikimedia, they are also the trademark owners. So in the community there was this wish that we create some person who is somehow endorsed by the community but also by the foundation to be able to approach these institutions and act as an intermediary to these institutions. And of course the chapter was also interested in that not anybody could just do that and call themselves that because, yeah, there might be users who are banned for some reason or yeah. So they wanted to have a say, okay, who's going to go out and call themselves Kulturbohrchafter. So what do we have? The Kulturbohrchafter should be part of the community. He should know the community. He should know the project. Ideally, he should be active or he or she, sorry about gendering. But it's, let's say, okay, in English, it's they. Okay, they should be known the project. They should be more and more probably they should be willing to commit themselves for a longer period. In other words, not just I have one project and in that project, I'm going to be active. No, I should be able to be called on by either the foundation or the institution if they want to cooperate with us. And then I should also, and that's the next thing, be open to challenges even in fields beyond my own usual interest. If I'm interested in medieval art and someone is suddenly in a museum with impressionisms come up. Okay, I should also get taken into those subjects and willing to learn. Yes, also new techniques and features. Upload, not upload, but new upload tools, mass upload tools and things like that get involved like this. I should also learn about something about the legal background. I should try to find out how these institutions work and work together. And I should know the networking associations of these museums to perhaps, you know, also do some work in the background. Yes, and as I said before, I need to have the backing of the community and of the chapter. Nope. Yeah. So what the cultural chapter isn't, I'm not some kind of super Wikimedian. There was some opposition also from the community that they didn't want to have, we don't need such cultural chapter because they're just going to be some big shots. They're going to get all the money, all the all the funding. They take that away from us. No, we're not doing that. And we're also not in there just for the fancy title. And it is for some perhaps similar to the Wikimedian in residence, but the difference is I'm not working for some working with or inside some specific institutions, but I'm open to different institutions. And it's also there's no employment part in it. I'm still a volunteer and it's not any kind of part-time worker, anything like that. But when we contact in specific institutions, of course we do things that also Wikimedian in residence would do. We try to empower the people in those institutions to become part of the Wikimedia. We try to show them how to do common studies, show them how to edit and also show them the constraints, for instance, about paid editing. I mean, they are as somebody in the institution, they are paid people. They have their salary and they actually edit as an employed person from the institution. That's not very well looked upon in Germany. So we have to tell them the do's and don'ts, what they are able to do and not do. Yes, and I didn't make a nice sign of things, only the thank you. In our last sessions, we said, okay, well, we have 30 seconds left. We have a question and answer thing. Then we stopped and the next session didn't take place. So is there a next session? Okay, then I'm over it out. And if you have questions, approach me and answer me or I'll answer you outside. But now I'm going to give, okay. So any questions? Yes, sure. Yeah, over there. How do you engage that people? Like, do you, as well, it's not you, but I mean, how do these people get engaged to this responsibility at the end? Like, it's not a part time job, but at the same time, it's a lot of... No, as I said, it was a community initiative, but then it was more or less, should it get the endorsement by the chapter? And there was actually a very long genesis of how we're going to create this. As I said, there was also opposition from the community that said, hey, we don't want that culture to a board chapter because he's going to be some, you know, he's just going to be there for the name and, hey, I want to... So it took over a year to actually get this more or less down. And there was a voting process at the beginning. And at the moment, we are only about 10 people, no woman at the moment because you are also not allowed to be employed by the chapter. And this one woman we had, she went to Wikimedia Switzerland as employed and at that moment she was out. And we meet on a monthly basis on every 15th of the month at five o'clock in the afternoon. So whether it's Monday, Sunday or whatever, that is also because as volunteers, people have different commitments, they work in their jobs, they have evenings, they have sport clubs and so on. So if you would put it down to one day, somebody would be excluded at every meeting. And this way, most of us usually come together. And so that's how we exchange ourselves amongst each other, what projects are coming up and what we can do and where we need somebody to move in. And as I said, the institutions approach the chapter and then the chapter approaches us. Is that more or less? Yeah. Anybody else? I just thought of something. Hi. My name is Chris. I'm actually from Wikimedia Deutschland. Is this just for Wikipedia or are there equivalents for other Wiki projects? No, that's what I said. We help those institutions with comments, uploads, with Wikidata. Wiki source if you want. I mean it's kind of like anything that these institutions could do within the Wikiverse. And of course, I'm myself. I'm not a know-it-all, but usually I know people in the community that might be able to answer these specific questions. So that's also the reason why I said this person should be a little bit embedded in the community and should more or less also know people in the community. So it's a networking thing. You have to know where to go for your answers. I might poke you for something later. Well, great. You were a creative, enthusiastic crowd. That makes it happy to be here as a speaker. Thank you.