 I guess we say that's the bell rule. I haven't heard the bells yet. I haven't heard them. So first on the agenda is the approval of the agenda. Any questions in regards to tonight's agenda? Well, I get forward on to everybody a letter from the individual for the chair committee to be appointed. Do you want to add that to the agenda? Other than that, I don't see any of that. I thought I brought that with me, but I apparently left it. Yeah, I thought I had printed it out. Nobody should have done it. Yeah, I printed it. I thought it was in my dad's stuff. I move we accept the agenda as amended. I just wanted to add one other, just because there were some things that didn't get on the list, like the town health coordinator and things like that, I didn't see. So maybe if we just put a agenda item first to just talk about the list that we have of the current town official list, because there's going to be some things that we still haven't appointed even after tonight that we can bring a storm. We're okay with just, you know, action needed this brainstorming on that. This first thing? Yeah, so the first one will be just to talk about the current town official list. Current? The current town official list. Okay. Our representatives do. Anything else? Nope. Go ahead. No, you did it all second his motion. All right. All in favor? All right. All right. Eyes have it. Open up to public comment. Anything that's not on the agenda tonight that anybody from the public would like to comment on? Bring it up. It's a big crowd tonight. Hearing none, we will move on. So our new item one for the night will be just, there was a list of the current town officials that was in our packet. I know even with the, we did a reappoint a few at the last meeting or actually two meetings ago. We have one on for this evening, but we still are going to have looks like a few that not appointed that. See if we can get to the bottom of that. But I just wanted to kind of go through the official list and make sure that we're all on the same path. The fence viewer, we did have an appointment for one of those tonight. I still haven't seen anything as anybody else. Got anybody? All I know is that Derek Wright said that he would serve. Right. Did we get anything back from any of the other? Well, Newt Whitcomb said that he would go on in place of, his name escapes me. Davis. So when currently the list shows Newt Whitcomb on there is that. That's because somebody just updated it. Okay. I didn't get that list of my email packet. It's on page 13. The email packet. Do we have to appoint? It's right under the purchasing agreement. They end up the purchasing. Do we need to appoint Newt Whitcomb? Has he given us a letter of interest or? Oh, I see. No. So maybe we'll just leave that for the next. Well, I told you to jot down something and send it over to the town office. I think it was a verbal excuse. Did he talk to you or did he talk to me? He talked to Paul. Talk to me? Yeah. So maybe we can get some sort of one sentence committee. Yeah. Well, it's paper for the next meeting then. Sure. So our next meeting would be on. The 23rd, I think. 23rd. Okay. So 23rd will follow up on Newt Whitcomb. So Derek writes already. You still need to appoint him. But he said he'd be the same thing, which is verbal reform. I mean, are we okay with taking verbal? I think it is. I think as long as we know that people, individuals have expressed to somebody that they do want to be the, I think it's easy to get a letter and it's preferred. But I don't know that we have to rest on that. Well, it's Kelly called everybody on the list there and John Washburn verbally said that he'd do it again. And I'll be Trask, same thing. So I mean, the people that I've offered, they're being verbally said that they do want to do it. I think the problem is we don't want to appoint somebody who we don't know might be, which is why we contacted them. And the only reason why I keep saying that, because it just came up, you know, a town meeting we appointed somebody who wasn't there to someone's slot that was there. I just want to make sure that the people who are appointing is actually, that's what they want to do. Yep. So. They're really a high stress appointment. Yeah, I was just thinking. New was looking forward to it. I said I'd make a damn good friends fewer. I don't think they've been utilized for a hundred years. I don't have anything to do with fences anymore. So I guess we could probably just under the, under the item for that this evening, we could talk about that more, I guess. And then we, we do have an appointment for tree warden. Press letter of interest for tonight. And we did say that we do have someone for a way of coals and wood. Yeah. Mr. Trass wants to go. Okay. We already did constable and pound keeper. And we took care of the solid waste board last time and town force. Did we appoint. The health officer. He was already on there. And then the only one I didn't see on there that I'm assuming that we do over years, don't we appoint the health officer. And has. Have we got any information back from the current health officer doing it again there? Or do we need to look for that? There's something that comes from the state that asks us that we were required. Yeah. So that's, so that's slightly different than. Okay. That's where it's an official. Letter that we have to fill in. And then there's also. So where our human services is a human service. Official. Shelly. Richardson. Is appointed as well as a related to something from the requirement from the state. We're good until, until we. That will be notified about those. Cause I know like the health. Official into things. There's more to it than just. Yeah. It's more related to the requirements of the state. I remember reading in the, in the handbook, the select board handbook, that some paperwork that he needs to file. Also as a health officer with the state. Yeah. On a yearly basis. Okay. Yeah. And that's, and they send it to us to review and make sure. So how do we want to. For the candidates that we have for the fence viewer. We do have. An article for that for tonight. As well as the tree warden, but way of course. And would. I think is the only one that we haven't. Reappointed yet. I mean. Yep. Yep. So, I mean, we could. You've got them on the agenda in there already. I think it's the first time we've ever appointed anybody for 30 years. I mean, they just was on there and they just stayed. Basically. Yeah. A lot of people that we contacted actually had no idea. They were still on that. Forgot they were on that. Yes. Well, that's what I, you know, that I mean, I think that's. That's the thing about process. I mean, I mean, I know some of these appointments now are. Not nearly what they were years ago, but. You know. I mean, I think that's the thing. I mean, I think that's the thing. I mean, I think that's the thing. And I think that's the thing. And I think that's the thing. I mean, it's the same thing. But at least getting somebody to show us a letter of interest or. Verbal commitment, we got something that they know that they are. Are that so. You know, I think that the, it goes to the issue of. Public involvement. And if you just. If you just gloss over these positions year after year after year. Or I should say the opposite, if you have the opportunity to highlight these positions every year, they're going to be there for you. They're going to not be involved in the community and people can step up and be involved so I think it's, you know. As you say it may be like a fence viewer. Might be a sort of a giggle fast, but the truth of the matter is that there's a potential value there. And it's. And the people who want to serve. Are. Clearly. Trying to serve their community. So we don't have a way of rolling wood on. Okay, we've been moving forward with that yeah, I don't yeah I think that are you meaning because we don't have it on the agenda whether yeah Yeah, I didn't put it on the agenda. It was one of those that well I don't know if technically it's actually one of those that we've it's been on our agenda since town meeting Yeah, it's an unfilled that we don't have to have it on the agenda It's required in our first organizational meeting to appoint that so I don't think we would need to think we could just take Yeah, okay So I would accept Yeah, oh, yeah So I'll take a motion to appoint mr. Tras to the way of coal and wood so move mission Second, okay, all in favor. All right All right, I just have it Anything else in regards to the is there any? town positions that I Forgot Think that covers all of them Yeah, you mentioned earlier the tack rep, you know, and I'm the The two rivers regional plan commission representative. There's representatives to different Organizations that aren't I was never appointed. I just stepped up because there was a position to be filled I Think it's the same way with it with the Transpiration transportation advisory committee So there's a bunch of those kinds of things that just sort of circle around at different points of time It might be might be worth At some point getting a spreadsheet about you know, everybody in their different capacities and how they serve the town so we can at least be aware of what we what the board needs to do to Make sure those positions are filled right agreed So we can move on It's got it on the agenda. Yeah, we got we got the tree warden and fence viewer on But I just had noticed that there were a few that weren't on just wanted to Circle around aware where we were at with them. Could we make the appointment? so It does say in her town service officer that on before April 15th to be chair of the selection shall point the town service officer So that's Shelly Richardson and She generally is quite favorable in that regard, but we always ask her to make sure she is We've only got a week Do you want to follow up with her to make sure she's good Maybe just follow back up with her So the next next item is The town return to work policy Yep, so, you know we're trying to keep with this Policy and procedure kind of all rolling down the street here put together a graph Return to work policy actually I believe Kelly So it's just a draft The idea is to just know do what we can and itemize things out of clarified things To allow them to come back to work in these two So this kind of lines what we what we mean what we'd like to see Just asking for new comments if you have anything for me I was I was just kind of looking through stuff that I have at work With our policies and things guess the only question I had would be is it necessary to have the job description form? filled out by the Yeah, I should have sent in because then that might Corning into one task versus the other you know because usually what happens is they'll You know the physician will give a return to work with restrictions type thing right and as long as you meet Those restrictions you could you know sure lifting them out. Yeah Yeah, you know so maybe it doesn't handicap you to one job description Well, that is that what job description means in this case Yes So are you thinking with the job description form that that would be just the Limititions of what they can and cannot do but yeah, I think that might be a better Because the way I was thinking it was like okay, you're gonna go into the office and you're gonna do this job for Yeah, when when it might be a shoulder and they could still Go plow the road, you know or something like that I just didn't know if maybe we had to have that in there or not But it's definitely important to have a return to work policy I Think we need to clarify that language that it's not it's not a job Job, it's a description with words of use. What did you say? Not limiting, but you said like a restriction a restriction I think we could clarify that language because ours is usually I think the form it uses It's something along the lines of like a return to work with restrictions or well you do have that under the Explanation from the position it says Whether there are any restrictions right I mean I think that The idea is this is the job description, but these are the restrictions and what whatever you can do within that As long as it doesn't preclude you from the work that is there is to be done I think what you're talking about is having some flexibility so that the supervisor didn't say well You know he or she's on a mend, but they can't do what I want them to do or what they were doing before they left And I want to have some flexibility, but Get a list of the restrictions that they have as they're coming back, and then you can put them wherever Those restrictions are not limited because you've got the two forms of return to work form and then just rename this other form Not it won't be a job description for a call kind of a list of assessment Because I think in the language under on page one or procedures this to obtain a transitional assignment Employee must request a return to work form and a maybe list of restrictions form from The talent manager and provide them to attend the position for completion did down and then Did the league have a template or anything like that? Oh this was the leaves So this one seems a little confusing to me, but I mean, I would think that you would get one form That that the physician would fill out saying the return to work and then there would be a section in there where they could Could put in what the restrictions are which is sort of what they said It's like a return to work just for a certain game merge those two parts Yeah I think it's great Clarity on both ends Employees in the supervisors better off Okay, great. Yeah, it's good And then speaking of adjustments the next item is the town purchasing policy which we went over last meeting We made some comments and This is the final product I believe we we made two comments. Yeah, they were very Section five you got an extra indent pushes everything forward on page three It's all section five We've got an extra indent all the tab push to purchasing agents and everything forward I don't see it. Were you at page three? Wasn't a three you didn't indent per spacing agents. Yeah, I know page two Section five purchasing agent. Oh, yeah And it's pushed everything all your paragraphs We talked a little bit about We changed that I changed the name on the back Make the chair Appropriate and I think that that was it I don't think there's radius Well, we decided on a sting was staying with the same. We did already buy the purchasers Yeah Very bad story So it's ready to go There's no make a motion we accept the Purchasing policy for the town of Bethel. Yeah, all in favor Since you get reformed I Thought literally kind of liked having her own Your whole kingdom back there all I don't know where they got this Okay On to Item for filling the tree working position I believe John John is here Everybody's had a chance to look over John's email Yeah, I gotta say that I've had a lot of interest in the tree warden Not only through my own application, but just personally I took some training quite a few years ago and I've always thought that there was some value to some of the statues and some of the potential operation of a functional tree warden and all of Mr. therapy had Performed that duty to some degree over the years had been one of those positions like you said that it just sort of sat and Not been really revisited and some of this opened up I I thought a lot about it myself, but John popped into my head and I was like, you know, I think I Recommend that he did he think about it and you you've been thinking about it quite a bit anyway over the years a couple of different times So clearly from his letter, he's got some good experience and I think that the knowledge of trees and hazard trees is mental of it, but I also think just having the The inclination to Think about that interface between the public and the trees and the public land and public services I'd like to nominate John To our land to be our pre-warden All in favor Non-profit I have We appreciate it Yeah, yeah, but you name for it on that You know like we were talking about there, you know, they are important positions, you know, even though they might May not be utilized as quite as often as they used to be or should be Well, I think clearly I mean It's sort of up to you where you go with it, but you can talk with Greg and with the road foreman and figure out what what projects might need to be done or where you're where your expertise should come in or But I think that in the past local towns that some other local towns have had issues with Landowners didn't quite understand the interface between the public right away and trees on their front lawns and Just clearly being an up a Bootsman liaison is a big Feature someone who knows the trees and knows how to deal with with landowners who have aesthetic investment will be Big feature They can't just clear along the side of the road for a view Okay You still have to get permission from the town to before you can go and cut People have gotten in a lot of trouble There have been some issues and that's sort of where you that's where interfacing with the town manager will be important Clearly, I think the some of the points that you were talking about before about being able to identify hazard trees will be a big Big asset to the road crew Says you can see them all over town where people drive underneath hazards all day, you know Now does that position interface with the telephone company for example and they want to come through and Trim trees back and went on for placing poles and things like that So example we were standing in the parking lot before we came in here and they just Changed the what they had patterned their poles to be and there's now there's two poles at either end of the parking lot So the lines are going to go straight across the top of these Flower and crabs out there and of course these trees haven't been really perhaps Cultivated all that well anyway, but There's a few of them that are too tall and I'm sure that the power company is going to want to have something to do with it and those are public trees and that falls right under your jurisdiction in terms of protecting the public's interest in the value of those trees And that would clearly that's one of the reasons why the legislature invested so much already in the Warden, okay. Well, thank you. Thanks. Good luck And the The other item we had tonight was the field offense viewer position. I We still haven't had any nominations for that any interest of priorities yet Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, we did Nothing We would make a nomination to appoint Derek Wright Newt Whitcomb and John Washburn All in favor And the next item is to go over the interlocal agreement amendment Everybody get a copy of that. I think it's looking good as long as long as we have some Legal authority to actually Provide that standing as an as an entity so that they can have their own financial and Operational oversight, I think Greg's gonna send us the attorney general Once we get a final so I talked with Rose today. She said she's gonna talk with her board to me tomorrow. Yeah Once we get to a final version what I would consider a final version. Yeah, we'll send it to the attorney general for review I was wondering whether or not we needed to have as part of this document some sort of description of the business model structure that will have to be created to Run this entity Before we hand the keys over To be sure that the structure Well, at least the basics or whatever in place and in writing it whether or not they need an operations manager or business manager What kind of that's what that's what the board is all those kinds of things. I think that's what the board is being Appointed to determine right but it but that but to have something Kind of formatted and laid out before We hand the keys over So that it's not done after that when they're trying to organize and You know to kind of have the thing set up before it happens Well, I think that the amount I talked day that's one of the questions that was never asked or I don't remember is Is it you know, can they do it? Is it feasible? Can you can be? facility Can they do it? Can it create this? Can it create this organization have the personnel to do it? I think that's something that maybe like you say it's we need to have that You know not not the cart for this is just an amendment to the existing it is and in there that specifies a lot of that the original agreement of But in changing it to an entity you you're going to be adding more top-end with administration people They roll people and all those it does. It's back. That's pretty much mentioned in that in the original agreement Yeah, well the original agreement spelled out what the facility manager's Responsibility right there was quite a detail in that and he got higher. I think I think What Paul's at adding is now that they're taken on the financial end of that you know in the original agreement it spelled out what the Facility manager's duties were essentially right or the main ones and I guess you know All the financial stuff would be run I mean granted all rolls up under the joint board but I didn't see I personally didn't see a lot of Unless it goes back to the original agreement You know, I didn't see anything about the I saw one thing in this joint about Bethel and Royalton Select boards having power over Approving capital expenditures, but I didn't see anything about Unless that falls under the original agreement section in kind of spells out what Paul's talking about anyways Of this So that's basically saying after this agreement is signed then the new joint board right would determine these things Has the joint board talked about we have I did the gentleman hasn't seen this yet, but have you guys been talking about? The process in which will be laid out. You must be talking about some of the process of if this does come in the flourish and We're going to be looking for a bookkeeper So what is the structure looking like? We really haven't set up any structure because we was kind of waiting for this to see what our direction was going to be So we're starting the meeting I'm just thinking to have you know something Something on paper a structure on paper. Well, you know that before The actual final signing in the keys Well, actually you're it's definitely never really signing the keys over There's still going to have some control over finances it Only a capital extend only in how we appoint people to the board. Exactly. That's the only way Right because if more freedom isn't doing a good job, you're gonna fire me and replace me That's why I'm sit. That's why but that's not that's not yes, that's not a structure Under section eight here says They'll set it up, but I'm thinking have something set up before Well, I think they'd be a good thing to talk over with the other board clearly and see whether or not there's people They still don't understand how this alignment is going to work with that all the employees are going to become I don't know ways of the joint board. I don't see how that It's possible they'll be coming up ways of the entity itself if That's my question Anything in here that says that it can actually happen, right? It's gonna have to fall into a town or umbrella somehow I mean to be without its own yeah It has to become a quasi-medicable Which I think was one of our biggest questions that we had when I know it was He didn't want to take it, but I think he was a lawyer who had somebody riding on his shoulder Yeah, everything in here sounds really great. It just like you said like I told you I just don't know that we can do it I don't legally think we've done him. Now. He's a great This is a really good attorney that we're using a very very Good guy, but it just seems like you can write anything on paper, but can you really physically do it? It's an in question. I have because I've been saying all along. It just doesn't seem like something that we can Do without being a special district But he seems to think that it seems like you know renting a room to your daughter and then cleaning and cooking for This is just not I was telling great today if we run a deficit Ralton and Bethel are both gonna have to come up. No Yes, I know that's the way it is, but I'm saying that's not Get rid of these people and put on somebody on the board that can do it, but That what keeps you held to you being the town's the way I understand being held to this This entity still is that you can replace the board Their executive board with your own work. You also have the town set to be involved for any long term debt so capital improvements and there is a Overworking fiduciary part of this where if they were if they cannot function and they can't stay afloat and they need Funds basically to cover shortfall the two towns have to provide those Yeah, they can't let it go So they're still there's still that connection well, but yeah as long as And that's the part that I'm questioning is whether or not you can actually create a subsidiary organization that has real legal vadilla validity validity under that model Yeah, whether we've actually created enough separation to actually have that that organization standalone, but to Paul's point I think that That is whether we come up with it with a I think that the exercise of coming up with a structural will be important because at least as far as I feel this board is very very serious about that facility standing on its own and not being tied in in some way to to the day for strings and Maybe coming through with a description of what that of what that structure would look like will be You know might be redundant, but at least it would be an exercise in trying to determine Because I go back to the fact that we don't really know We ask if we don't know if they can because they don't know what all these pieces parts and pieces are to this new Entity how it's gonna work if they can if they can do it can that facility run Independent. Oh, I think legally or I'm not talking the legal part. I'm talking financially They don't know a thing I don't know if they know that that's something we're going to be I Think it I think it you know, that's the it's a service facility and it's a and it's a Enterprise from so it clearly can it's just a matter of whether or not The current iteration of it has been so Dependent on the services that the town about provided to it whether or not it can Intellectualize what what that's gonna look like after after the change Be a lot of changes. Well, if you're adding more personnel, you know, two or three more, you know, management type personnel That's gonna add to payroll. It's gonna be a lot of things like just individual employee costs that yeah, right now They're under the town umbrella for you know, let's you know Retirement say for health care and things like that that You know a majority stake in that how that's gonna work with those employees that are gonna go there because I can't see that They're gonna pay the majority stake of their health care That's been the issue, I mean this is really as far as I'm concerned This is what we're we're pushing we need to be pushing forward of the because this is the issue It's never been addressed down there is the level of management We there needs to be someone in that facility that is taking the responsibility for this very conversation This is that's the level of management that we've been lacking down there and And we've been I mean Chet's been working toward that position, but it isn't necessarily Been fulfilled because there's been such a reliance on what's going on So clearly and I know in the last two years that I've been on the board it I mean and there was mostly the three of us that were on the board at that point I think we were all in agreeance that To get them to stand alone You know that we didn't want the financial Responsibilities that for some reason we wanted that that But but there's a lot of challenges. It's not just as easy as breaking my partner Their own identity. I still have my doubts Well, we've got to sit down and figure out whether we've got the money to do this You know as the solid waste but you got to find out what this is, but I think And I think that goes to Paul's point is you know We could approve this and and Royalton could approve this and at the end of the day It's you know, you can't make the model work and then then where is it but but I think that's for the exercise of the whole reason why This made any sense at all is because it's a soft transition. This is if we go right to that incorporation There's a lot of Ground that needs to be covered to accomplish that legally And it's a big transition So really if we can rather than like looking for the limitations We clearly are going to find those limitations But I think using this document as a way to move ourselves more into that transition because truthfully it could take three to five years for it to actually be You know able to stand on its own because part of what has to happen is they have to say okay We're going to start paying for the financial manager. We're going to start paying for benefits. We're going to start charging 25% more for tipping fees or whatever it is because we're going to start to move this thing toward a position where it can stand on its own Again, I kind of do it at the switch flick was which because somebody signed the piece of paper And I would imagine there's I mean there's going to be the whole you know renegotiation of wages and and Benefits compensation for you know these employees that are going from a town identity to that on either buying out their Sick time I mean all that stuff that I mean it's it's going to add up Of course, this is This is going to be added to the original agreement anyways with a met me on these are amendments to the original agreement Yeah, so I mean you can read but to get the full aspect of it It's all got to be written out the whole agreement with these amendments in there so you can Reference, yeah, so it all fits together in context well, so Breed it big notes We're going to I'll let you know when the meeting gets set up with the two towns Is it is it possible that when when the joint board kind of goes through and Talks about what that structure would look like that we could see that before we have a meeting with Should get the minutes of that you know like is it well that we we as a board can have met and discussed What the joint board has discussed before we go and meet with Royalton so that we're sort of on the same page Do you think the joint board is on sort of schedule to get that it's not on our gender this isn't but We'll discuss it. We mean Wednesday night this one So that we would have those minutes before I look on the entire agreement not just this but everything Because it'll tell you all the parts that you would need them Although all the parts of pieces to the structure overall Yeah, and would the capital expenditure to copy yeah portion of that be the same as what it is currently So if it's over a certain dollar amount you have to go as a voters Yeah, there's that's that's part of what's already in That would be state statues anyway But if now if they want to go buy a loader and they're going to do it inside five years Then it just had to go to the select board, right? Will that stay with the select board that go to the joint board? I don't know. I think it depends on the threshold that five years would be short term I Think it's greater than five years, right Yeah, I think that's the kind of thing in my mind That's what we would be investing the authority in that board and that and that manager down there to They theoretically they're going to have standing in the state to be able to execute those kinds of decisions I would think So If it's legal because if it isn't anything other than that There's no way for us to to separate our financial Responsibility or our responsibility for our employees That's really from our standpoint. That's what it has to meet We have to be there has to be some threshold that can show us that we don't have to have This but I mean there's one thing to say the two towns voters have to vote on a capital and Expenditure, but this is the day-to-day year-to-year accounting and Personnel management has to be and what the two towns have to vote on on this No Yeah, that was the other reason why we went this way because This is actually different than the two models that the guy from VLTC brought to the last He left me there with the impression you had to do this or that well It was basically was so Giuliani did the original So instead of reinventing the wheel he said I'm just going to This section is to cater it to work for what you guys are looking for That's what this is. That's what I was going to say You got to hold them up together because they are there are two pieces of the same document That will eventually get merged together And I think he did that for a few reasons, but mostly probably save his money honestly, but But that's the whole idea. So the same guy wrote both of them This is just but did he know that we were trying to break it apart. Oh, yeah Yeah, I sat down on the phone I talked to him and gave him all the notes that I had from the meeting that I had with Sandy yeah, Sandy and he knew what we were looking to get what we're trying to do And then you know, we'll have that final review too And see if it's then they ought to tell us it's who is it you said the attorney general. Yeah, yeah That's it's a free review that they'll do for us Think that that would be our last hurdle As far as the validity of this Natural resources has a lot of control over the facility down there, but I don't believe that this Doesn't change the sweat But it sounds like the work descriptions that were titled under the Facility manager in the original interlocal agreement will have to be amended as well And that's not being done currently Now that kind of goes a little bit towards Paul's point Because for some reason when they did the interlocal agreement, they they went pretty detailed into that Section 14 or whatever was under the and you know, they laid out, you know, I don't know 10 or more duties So I think those duties need to be reexamined probably with the help of the joint board Right to figure out what the duties does that fall under one person? Umbrella and then that facility manager then is up to get themselves a finance director a bookkeeper or or do you need to spell out two positions? I don't know. I know our chair was talking about he wanted to review chest Obligations to the cell at the end why so this would work right into it So that's the idea. I think that's the idea is that we're going to right now we're in draft form So we're just trying to get just comments from people and find out what we need to add It sounds like what I'm hearing is that the joint board really needs to take a look at this Right sooner than later Because they're more of the the operational part of this But there really wasn't much we could do until we saw something in writing on what's yeah What our direction is, right? Yeah, right And so it looks like well, I'm not gonna To lately's point. I think we'll we'll push out the joint board meeting a little bit To may sometime maybe yeah, I think it just like I know we usually get their Meeting minutes in our packets, but it'd be nice to have this discussion here prior to right going and meeting the other board You think it would be an advantage to have all three boards together or just a two task I think so I would think if we're going to be responsible for a lot of stuff that the We got actually eventually everybody's gonna have to get the same. Yeah, probably not. I even have the employees or some of the employees anyway I Know but it you know It's a feasibility issue. I think to some degree Yeah, I mean the template in which that has been laid out here I mean if if it legally works, I mean, I didn't really see any major issues with it Right. I do think that there are a lot of finite Details that need to be Not just put into this You know, obviously some of the structure needs to be put in this I would agree with paul But I think there's a lot of the Smaller details that need to be laid out for us as The select board to know that the employees are going to be taken care of On this and how that looks like, you know, what are the deals going to be made or you know, that type of thing Rather than just cut people loose and not know exactly what their future lies. Yeah I think we'll we'll that to them. Well, that's but but that's I mean if we turn this over and said, hey We like the structure if this works legally, I think you got several board meetings to work through this You know everything from health insurance to you know, right now it says The employees will carry over their existing benefits from the town of Bethel. Well, I know it's easy to say that but I don't know You know, we would work on there some sort of legally You know, we would do in our insurance The idea would be to do some sort of group plan type of thing. I'd like to talk to some of our other town Okay, so we give them rates That's I think that's the concept. Are we going to handle payroll? I mean, there's probably a lot of stuff that doesn't need to be put into this agreement But we probably would like to know as a board Where where these details lie before we get into signing. So I know so we'll be looking at this tomorrow The joint board will be looking at it Wednesday, have you given a copy of this to chat? Uh, no, I gave a copy of this to Sandy And I gave a copy to well to rose Okay, because when I got my packet for our meeting, this wasn't in there, you know, it's not on the agenda So evidently I think we're going to have to get some copies out Yeah, yeah, I can give you a or you can take that copy there. I'm gonna anyways, but do you want me to Talk to chat to get it on the agenda Yeah, I think we should the chairs are bob young bob chair young But anyways, we all have a copy of this and look at over for our meeting Wednesday, but I don't think we're going also By Wednesday, well, you know, I don't think anybody's asking you to approve it or anything like that It's just no, no, no, I think it's just you everybody can get it and then think about it and still want it until we have our meeting And then we we'll all go through what we what we think Well, we might have to meet more than once a month For a while to get this straightened out. I mean, that's just I mean, I would think you'd have you know, two to four meetings I mean, I was thinking there's probably two or four meetings worth of Back and forth and at least so I mean if you're doing it, but if you're doing it by the monthly you're looking at fall Yeah To come back here unless you unless you guys did something where you start having two meetings a month or something like that to get through some of that Well, I will get it to you so we can or I get the chance to get on the agenda Everybody is kind of and we'll get you the minutes. We'll get everyone the minutes from the probably both meetings And then schedule something Beyond that it's a lot of meaning. I'll make sure we have a meeting here before we go there. How long was the other It's a funny thing is that it's kind of If you look at all the minutes of that process they they kind of Shot for a certain Object and then they came down to this agreement And it's interesting that it's the same author Because uh But I do think that this has got to be incorporated into the other agreement where the amendments are going to be so Rather than just tagged on the end right because people You can reference. I see what's happening a lot better Yeah Well, then maybe the idea is that if that's the thought that maybe we just draft a whole new In a local well not draft a whole new one, but just track the whole new format. Right. Yeah with the problem Yeah, because now I mean this will make references to amending places Yeah, but even this is going to change I mean it sounds like what we need to do is we need to have a a meeting With sooner with roulton with with all the parties, right? Yep, just just get this thing on track Keep it on track and then first or second week of may That'll give everybody time to take a look at it. The man's will come out from the joint board and from the relative board I'll get it to you for review. We will have had a meeting 23rd of april And then we'll shoot for the first or second week of May and then after that meeting Hopefully we'll be able to give the joint board good direction on filling all the gaps and and then we'll meet again You know, well, we're gonna have to take it on our own initiative to fill the gaps We need some help so Does that schedule work Sounds good. Just said may the first or second week of May somewhere in there. Yeah This would be nice if we could get it done before a physical year of joy one, wouldn't it? Sounds like that's gonna happen. Maybe next year Which year? Any other further discussion regards to interlocal agreement? Good for tonight. Good progress So we'll move to the town manager's report So I got my report on there this time Here comes ahead of the council Just a couple of quick things on the top there. I From our conversation in the last meeting. I've been working on parking permit for the Parking area over here. I've got something put together. I'm going to start Next step is to kind of just start working on the ordinance itself and do some revisions of that and kind of look forward to that See where it goes The parking permit looks really nice. I think it's going to work out pretty good. It'll be nice and easy I've looked at the little stickers They're not stickers or the clingy plastic clingy things I can get them for like two dollars a piece So they look really nice. They park and permit at town of Baboy with the number that we we put on so If we go that way, it's going to be pretty inexpensive to do it. I think I'm also working on a conflict of interest policy. This was something again kind of keeping the ball roll with the policies in town Working on that. I'm hoping to have that to you more in May I think I can get it to you in May pretty easily for your initial review on that And see where it goes. So back to the parking where are we at regards to a combination of Accounting how many parking spots we currently have in the downtown versus So I didn't actually get a chance to downtown business owners are thinking really need So there's two parts to that The next step one of my part is I'm going to I've got some aerial photography And I've scaled off the the photography and the next step is to look at Different styles of parking and things like that. You can take a nap I know different styles of parking and things not only in the parking lot itself They've got some ideas there, but also out front here So we have that piece that I need to put together and then we've got the counts getting with the business owners and finding out their The wish list of parking spots. So do you think we'll still be on track? I think we said that the next meeting that we would have that information. That's what we're going to do in May It was in May, I believe, right? My goal is to try to get the info by the 23rd The downtown but the rest of it probably may because next week I'm going to do a presentation on the RIS 38 stuff that we're going to possibly So So it'll be in May. I think this will all happen in May But hopefully I can bring not only the ring numbers, but we'll also bring some different ideas of How things are going to work how I can move things around and possibly pick up some parking stalls And see what there is to that Yeah, um, I just talked about RIS 38 I'll have that at the next president the next board meeting. I'll have a presentation on that kind of clarify what What that entails. I did a little research on the easement there So that stuff. So I think we're I think we're okay, but we still got to still gotta worry about this See what it looks like. Yeah. Yeah, and this will really show you the sections too And it's not necessarily it's not a property purchase at all. It's just that we're Giving them rights by the way. Basically separate right away Some of it is right away. So they're basically and I'll explain it all to you But we're basically the property owners and those two adjacent lots. So they're just trying to acquire some right of way Like they would anybody else So Just have so happens into town Um water master plan. I'm meeting with our engineers on that in a couple weeks. Um, they are I'm hoping they're about 75 80 complete with that that plan We're meeting at my office with members from the state also So hoping to really get everything hashed out and be at the end of that To getting that document done in the next couple months. So we get that water master plan out. Um, I Kind of heard rumblings that they're They think that we we may not have to do a full Tear down and redo of the tank unit. They think that it does possibility that we could do a Aligner or something. Yeah, so sort of a repair on that as a more short-term thing. So anyway, uh, We'll be doing that and we'll be redoing that with the state So hopefully we'll get them because they're gonna have to approve the document when it's all done anyway. So Like I said, I'm hoping that that document is completed in the next few months so we can start playing accordingly Um, that's really it. Everything else is just kind of Kind of keep the things going and We're here for spring Oh, whatever things on here. I am meeting with um A couple of my department heads about the new position that we've talked about that joint position and that float position We're going to be putting together a Job description and a list of tasks and a work plan to go with that that position so that I can Get my answer on that so that'll happen this week. So you might be seeing a draft job description in the next few weeks Any questions Oh, and then you got Teresa's stuff on the next day River street lining Those lights on river street We've contacted The trance numerous times They know We offered I talked to alan. He said he called chris bump. He said I Alan said I have the light. I have the light. We put it up and they said no, we won't do it So we can be mavericks and just go do it Or we can wait for them to do their thing. Okay, we also move some of the rails But those are so loose, but they move back a couple of days. I don't know if you saw They're just loose back there. They really need to be in their weld them in what they need to be You know, I mean a weekend we could pay to put that light up. We have a light But the trance seems to Think that they're gonna do it That's the only light right just the one because the rest of them. I think they're all working in It's just that one that doesn't have the head I keep getting them. Yeah, I mean, I guess if somebody were to call and say we're gonna do it Deal with it. We could do it But right now they've said Okay Uh comments that I had in regards to the Budget status Um, I was hoping to go through it a little a little more but it it appears that on the revenue-ended thing And when I say this, I'm taking out any extra taxes that we've collected or any any other Revenues that has come in from Doing this You know any other projects that might have been in the past, you know that type of things I'm taking all that out. It appears it appears that our revenue is behind a little bit So I was going to talk to therese to see with some of these You know how close we will get there Um But best guess is it kind of looked like around $25,000 right now One question I did have that. Um, I noticed that the class three highway money is down considerably from The others Class one and two highways are at you know, they've paid 75 to 94 of the year but class three they've only given us 64 Yeah Because that one seemed to be off. So I don't know if that You think that class one two and three all come through together, but right Maybe something to look into because that Class three highway as we know is their largest revenue that we get so Things could change drastically if we don't get a lot of So that was the big revenue question I had and then I guess Um, you know, things definitely are are tight on the higher costs and the things You know, we're in the same boat just like a lot of towns in the state with The winter being pretty aggressive and and spending more for resources Um, so I would I would just suggest that anything that we can Limit or hold off to between now and July 1st and maybe take advantage of it in the next budget We probably Probably should be looking at that. Um, yeah, I've uh, well, you know, I meet with all the departments to go over the budget They now to where And I know hopefully we're done with he's got some No, I mean what I mean by that is he's got a start. Yeah, so if we need it we can Yeah But I'm just you know Yeah, I mean, I know where we're um, you know We got several things going on where we have the you know, that actual budget thing that we're trying to get to So we're playing through this and hopefully this is our last year of trying to guess what the budget is But we did have a tough winter not just Weatherwise but we had truck breakdowns and we had to use You know, we had extra service for the trucks that did break down And then we had to pay for subcontracts to plow the roads for us because it's money So, you know hit us, you know three times Um So I just anything that we can do to try to limit the bleeding between now and then even if that's holding off on doing gravel or We're making To save money. Yeah On that Just trying to see I I really liked, um Teresa's notes on the side of Kind of really detailing on You know, this cost will be offset by grant money or Just doing a tax collection number. Yes And I just want to make sure that we're And this I've had several talks with Teresa just want to make sure that You know when we're talking revenues because easily you could say well, we got all this extra revenue from taxes from years prior So, you know And even if we do go over a little cost wise, we're kind of ahead of the game But we've really got to be careful and we really got to look at it as This budget only. Yeah, sure any of that extra tax collection money Really needs to be accounted for separately so that we can Um, and that's the look at that I'm sure in the past it wasn't looked at quite that Now we're working off the the numbers of the budget and we're not You know we're trying to overspend them But any additional funds we can add you know, the ideas that those could do is let you know Fund balance of some kind is used We're used to be used based on the board's approval So yeah, we're we're doing the best we can trying to watch what we're spending Just be aware. This is not my budget. Yeah. No. I mean, I think we're all We're all hoping that this is probably the last of the years over a year. I think we're going to give us the right Now that things that Are being coded correctly, you know, what line I don't think we can budget for I know we it's a little tough because we just went through a winter that was a little harsher than normal, but Yeah, I think we're in a little better better position than we were So And I noticed there was a few things that didn't get paid last year that got double paid this year Which I thought was kind of Why And then just like anything one thing I did want to One thing I did want to bring up in the public session here was Make sure that it hit the notes was you know, we talked about it during town meeting day of One of the reasons why our budgets have been over has been Especially has been on the legality end of things that we've had to deal with over the last few years and and A combination of the legal and auditing that we had to do And the legal and auditing budgets wise was $40,000 in our budget that we're currently in And just to show an example of Legal rate between legal and auditing services To date we're at We're pretty much at 60,000 so we're we're 20,000 over budget lines those two You know kind of almost evenly across the board each one's over the same percentage, so And just to note on that because Because trace has cleaned up the accounts and made so much progress on our auditors They used to work they would only work for an hour because they had no idea how long they were going to be there Have agreed to uh to give us a set price of here for a while because they They know what they're getting into a little better than what they were So to be honest with you, so I know in the budget that we will start here and In july we had increased some of the legal fees And after talking to Reese that was one of the things that Having teres there is going to cut down on some of the auditing services going forward Things will be organized and they want to spend as much time, so that's good Anybody else have any other comments in regards to the budget I like how she broke out the The utility accounts and where they stand I thought that was really good on Who's been responsive or? You know classified I thought that was really good. Yeah, that was great to see that breakdown So, you know as as of right now out of the 102 accounts that we have All of them but seven have been responsive in one fashion So And those other seven not the other seven not saying they're not responsive It's either she hasn't gotten hold of them because they might be hard to get a hold of or Or they're still waiting for the possible agreements come through. So that's that's good sign on the utility end And then the taxes are a little different, but we've gained some headway there for a bit so that's Gained headway all the mortgage holders have been notified at least once And any of the banks holding multiple mortgages have been notified multiple times. So that's good So it looks like so far we're doing well at Getting settlements and not have to worry about getting to that final step of turning off water Tax sales So Anything else under the town managers? There's no more questions We have the select board Minutes from march 26 I move we accept as written No on One thing on Page two select board minutes 312 18. Greg was in in noted to be in the meeting twice You're in you're in again twice, right? He's in twice. I told you I'm an overachiever Paul's like that teacher that you had in high school that regardless. He's not giving you an a Proofread for a long many years I was a proofreader I'm sorry, page two where? We're just like board minutes 312 20 to 18. Yeah, Greg was in in noted to be in Good catch. Can I have a motion to approve the amended meeting minutes for march? 20 Third, why don't we see 26 from? Oh on the agenda says 26 So we have to write a date because that's right. It's correct on me Okay Second second Okay, all in favor It was the it was the 26 the meeting the meeting was the 26 All right, so we're going to need a motion to We have to change change the date to the 26 Of the march I'm like Okay, a motion to approve the meeting minutes of march 26 One more time All in favor As amended march 26 All right, phew committee minutes Yeah, it's all the way sport which we kind of went through a little bit Anything other than the interlocal agreement that we should be aware of down there? Mullen Yes, we had some good comments from the lawyer about the solar agreement Yeah, it's good to have him go over that. Yeah, and that's that's something that's that we'll be working on That agreement They're all over us about Night Geneva Just Oh, green lantern is green lantern. That's what I mean Yes We could what what we actually did was they sent they got the document they sent it out for review To the same What they have we use the same comments And then I sent it out for you all for comments Probably at the end of the day, we may have it And have it on our agenda for that journal We probably wouldn't have that idea All right now Actually just out there for everybody to look at it and if you have comments about it Moguing a few things for a few more things. I think all we need a couple things too So if you have anything But I think they're addressing uh rosa's addressing with the attorney directly his comments So I'm just kind of staying out of the way And you'll just keep us updated. Yeah But if you have any comments, let me know so I can pass them on You've got my comment, right? I got it. Good I can't repeat your comment I wasn't All right And under other business We were gonna we had slated the um appointment to the rec committee. Yep Yeah, so ellie sent me an email after talking to me, but Rather than sending it to gregg, but You know, right y'all got a letter of interest from Shane kingsley to serve on the rec committee How many members they got now this will make five right? This will make zero four or five from what I understand. They still have a couple of me can see right Yeah, they've got one two. This will make four. We appointed one because Deedra's no longer on now. If you're still on oh, yeah, the quarry isn't right quarry isn't That's it because he's gone So it'll be four or five Thatcher and v3 and now this guy that makes five. So five didn't we appoint some the last time? Yeah, that was that. Okay Who is this are you talking about? Shane kinsley. Shane kinsley Think what's uh, you know interesting in his letter anyways, he's It seems like he's got a lot of the Kind of wreck background He's also got some Engineering and cad experience which could come in handy, you know doing some of the improvements going forward Seems like a It's gonna be a good replacement for quarry seems like a good one. You know, we're a little construction sounding. Yeah Here here a motion to add Shane kinsley to the Great title second all in favor. All right. All right. All right The only thing the only thing I had under under other business like It's kind of more curious as I was looking when I was looking through the budgets And there was something came up about there was a couple of positions that weren't paid last year So they double paid them this year and and I got looking through them and with all the different town appointments that we have and that's from you know You know health officer or the select board or you know, there's several different ones that are paid positions It seems like All the not that it matters to me, but it seems like all of them are paid differently I didn't know if there was a a rhyme for the reason of of all these Appointments and you know how one is paid a thousand dollars one's paid 250 ones paid 600 dollars I mean it seems like they're just I don't know how they came up with those numbers in the years past but Is it an easier system to? I was just thinking out some some of the easier bookkeeping. Why is the Give it all the same or some of them some in the state statute some of the positions it does say how What they yeah, but not everyone is in there You know the cemetery commissioner. Oh, that was it. Yeah Has a lot a lot of ongoing administrative responsibility in terms of Making sure Paperwork is I don't know. I was just but then there's also the work of There's some other contractual work that they form in terms of making sure that the That any kind of burial services are provided for Holes and so forth, right? I mean, isn't there it's kind of a complicated overlay Yeah, I know that yeah, I mean he's kind of a caretaker, of course, right of the records. That's what I mean Yeah, so you're right. I mean they're they're involved with with the plots with You know feeding people in the right places and I don't know. I don't think usually involved with any of the burials themselves Other than just overseeing the locations or whatever. I know he oversees a lot of maintenance out there So he's watching the people of them going and directing them Other than that, I don't know what else he necessarily has Yeah, I was just curious. I didn't know if You know could have been one of those things that a number was picked I bet you this is the reason 30 years ago and that just is what it is and never had the gumption to up our Everybody like you said people feel like we should be doing it for volunteer anyway So, you know where there's other positions where people do I have you know When you run for a position that you know is volunteer that I supposed to take a A smaller pay where it is somebody like the health officer Could get called out at two o'clock morning or whatever or the services service officers the same kind of thing really contributing in Unforeseen ways for people's lives Yeah, I just was curious of how those numbers came about And of course the other thing is one of the last time those were looked at you know I mean is The health officer that gets paid a certain amount now. Was that a number from the 70s or is that Is that something more recent? Does that reflect the time that's being put into it? It doesn't need to be You know, I don't maybe it's something great can just kind of look and do and see if We're being fair and you know and how that is but Just go oversight and I was looking through there Are you looking for a race? I got one A big percentage So No, just just looking at um anything anything else we This was in the packets. Is it just part of our discussion from the last week? There's no policies Oh I found my print out I had from chain kinsley was stuck in that one Anything else come before the board tonight This is um Yeah Anything else