 What's up chat? What's up YouTube viewership? What's up to the SoundCloud viewership all other audio platforms, man? I'm gonna try to get them all on there as much as I can It's definitely been a process learning how to make this podcast pop even more, but we had a My man K Texan with the sub but I am home today. I hit up my nursery guys man I said it's a big show this week, and they're actually in Denver Man, but for anybody I'm still low check check check check Turn the game up My game is all the way up All right, listen, we're gonna get to all we're gonna get all the stuff in sand Joe makes them broke a lot of tackle, but we're gonna get to all of that We really are I have Madden champ journey on the line journey. What's up? I appreciate you joining us man. You are the Madden 19 champion the best player in the world. How does it feel? No, I'm saying is you know Nobody can say anything bad about you. You know I'm saying that's it. Take that away from you All we can say is you know you're the best That's all That's what you got this is that the whole year came down to one game And that's pretty much all you got to say is that now they can tell you the best. That's it Okay, I like it there you hear it from Disney himself man And also not only not only are you the man champion? You are the leader of the entire Disney cult the entire Disney movement that man is going on now How does it feel to hold that rain and really have to represent for the youth? You know, that's all I've been you know, I've been growing people up You know I'm saying pavane, you know, he's kind he's coming a long way. He's busy again Now I got a lot of people, you know We got spoiling a part of it, you know He's rated R. He can't be a part of this, you know Journey doesn't do any type of that curse and or anything like that, you know, that's not what you represent You represent the clean household the whole new world, you know, really representing for the for the eight year olds And that that's really what's important at the end of the day Yes, sir But anyway I said you kind of like a og now. This is your second belt You are 19 now. So you kind of not even really young anymore In the terms of man players talk about how this feels different. Do you feel like you're a veteran now? Or do you still feel like the youth? Right, honestly, I feel like So It's only my second season although I've been to so many like more tournaments than most people But I feel like I got way more experienced than most of these guys And I feel like I got more years to go than most of these guys. So I feel like I don't know. I'm in the middle of both. Okay, so you definitely feel like all right So you write in your prime pretty much prime is right now. Okay, okay Has anything changed about the way you approach these games from let's say your first live event As compared because the first live event was probably when you lost the dj llamas. Was it the first one or was it? So you're talking like the first live tournament right now online Yeah, the first live one because obviously the first live online one was the challenge or the classic last year So honestly, I feel like My first on a first live event. I feel like I looked at the game better than I did my first two live events this year like in the classic and The clubs I felt like my mindset was better because you know in clubs in the classic I literally the almost like pass the ball almost every play and that's just not how I play and You know and when I won my first title my first live event I knew what my strengths were. I ran the bowl. I trusted my defense So I went back to that in my last tournament right here. So you definitely have matured as a man player Would you say? Yeah? Yeah for sure. Okay now I did ask you Lester there asked you what was your toughest game and the way I looked at it The final three to work. They were all easy. I mean you kind of agree with that like what And the last three games a single elimination. What was tough about those? Uh, I'd say lowman and spoto were like for sure like favorable for me I felt like I'll play both of them by large margin, but I feel like katoan played me the best out of those three Uh, just because like the run the run defense you played like I would never break a long run I'd probably like three or four yards max every time like consistently like three or four yards But he would be okay with that. He would just never give me the like the long play Like he'd play defense like how you would play like you start using his safety You start using his slack corner bet just to make sure I didn't get a You know like easy one. So yeah, so that's the thing man. And we talked about yesterday I we run the same playbook and I'm proud that you took my offense and won a belt with it I was really proud of that, you know that you really elevated norinless to the best playbook in the in the world But the one thing you do is you run the ball better than anybody. I don't know and I swear I don't believe D. Jones. I don't believe the disney dda I don't believe it until I see you run the ball and just bust off 80 yard runs 40 yard runs talk about the run game and why it was so effective for you at the man, uh, the man bowl I've always told people this but I always think that Online and offline like the total totally different games. I don't know like they feel different Run blocking, you know, I feel you guys been saying this in manna 17 Like you said the wrong blocking was so much better in a lot of events than it was online And I feel like it's the same way right now And um, my dude's just like they were just holding their blocks for any moise John Ross and andrew roberts. They all have low run blocking They're just holding the cornerbacks and safeties the whole entire play and then I had Joe mixon just breaking tackle Right, so it was easy. You know the moles were there. Joe mixon would be your MVP, you think Oh, yeah for sure. And Joe mixon with uh, just defense. Joe mixon in the defense players That's the one thing that I obviously won't go over a little bit of games And I'll tell you what I thought were some of the biggest players But what I do want to go over is just this this team you sent me the team And it all starts with that was salary kept man You really have to have the right team that the really fit your strength and the right team to really go out there And get done what you want to get done And that was the biggest thing I took away was that I thought your team was really tough I didn't think and I thought I mean I didn't see everybody's team But I really thought this team on paper was was really good And the first thing we'll start out is that you do have tier three sprinter, right? Yeah. Yeah Okay, so that means you have all 20 cap guards And that does kind of help because when I got rid of tier three sprinter I um, I did have 15 cap guards and we talked about your running game guards really held up I mean you have Brandon Brooks is the best running Best guard in the game Philadelphia Eagle and Hudson said so those guys held up But uh talk about zone run. Why do you use zone run for spin move? So zone run, uh, yeah So Shannon Sharp had 80 spin moves to start off and Randy Moss had 81 spin moves So I had to get zone run to increase their spin moves and it also it also helps out with run blocking So uh, my whole team would get better run blocking. You know help out with that Also, I do feel like like even last year I feel like if you get a like a run blocking cam I think even if it like increases by one like the run blocking I feel like it just makes it play so much better if you just like have a cam for running And you don't have the best quarterback And you also some of you didn't use conducted Which is no I did it did it so you don't so the only red cam you had was the uh, john ross with deep route running Yes, uh I felt like I felt like I knew I had bugs in some serious in my group I felt like I needed a deep outcome to Like exploit it pretty much because you know, I felt like play action did really good versus five two and Like a lot of play action plays in New Orleans is really bad So I really wanted to just do two hitches in a post and to do that I had to get a deep outcome just to put it out there and you know Some serious. I just like I was dotting. I just couldn't stop them So I was like I was happy then boogies really couldn't stop me either. So I was like, I was happy with the decision And you probably spent the least cap on wide receivers of anybody probably in the tournament Because even you don't have the best john ross, right? This is just a I don't know what john ross. This is Andre rovers was good back in the club championship But he's kind of Going by the wayside, but for 60 cap and 63 cap even your randy maus I swear the best randy maus is 85 cap. Was this the best? I know I think it's not the ultimate legend, but was this the best uh ghost randy maus you got? yeah, so basically like People are using like if you'd use 85 maus I'd say like I'd only do that as if I if I had like tier one sprinter tier two sprinter I feel like since I had tier three sprinter I was okay with 97 the speed at 64 and then under roberts would be 98 speed The only reason I had these receivers is because I had tier three sprinter And they would just go up to speed like if they were like plus one speed I would never use these receivers So I was like if I'm gonna have tier three sprinter. I'll just uh What do you call it? Not spend that much cap on my receivers. You saved that Okay, talk about this joe mixon man, because it was just a straight team MVP joe mixon 85 uh cap Yeah, uh, like I don't know like this joe mixon is crazy He has like 97 speed and I feel like the threshold for break tackle where like you just can't his to come Ever is 90 so he had that and his spin was crazy But like mix all those two in You just have like an unbelievable running back maybe just like You do want some fluke plays in tournaments Like if you get one of those one or two fluke plays I can change the whole tournament He gave me a bunch of those and the reason why I want I will always be a fan of bringing our running back to the party because they like I said not fluke Not even fluke plays, but turning a two-yard run into a four-yard run Or being able to score inside the two-yard line is such a big I saw that with some serious with that eddie george, man You I don't know if he killed you with eddie george, but he was killing the whole tournament with eddie george Yeah, I mean that just goes to show you man that joe mixon won the tournament You probably had the highest cap on running back with 85 I mean a lot of people were using the shitty version of joe mixon But to have a 85 cap really any you know really paid off because when you did break it you didn't get caught You know, this is pretty much Yeah, another thing is like Like even if like you have the runs like boxed up Like I'd get three yards guaranteed like I would never lose yards Like I'd be okay with the second and seven like to sort of like it's gonna be like if I get like a Three-yard drag at the third and fourth now, and I'm okay with that. So like it just You know the way I the way I played I just needed a good running back to give me like three yards Guaranteed and then maybe more if you get swallowed Let's go talk about your defense because I'm looking at it now and I'm kind of in love with it because It's just super versatile. I mean you can go from Pretty much anything because you have d4 that can kind of be a middle linebacker if you want them to be But at the same time you can be a defensive end So talk about what went into picking all these players on defense Well, you always want hip power. I feel like and you're outsizing your safety. So like I feel like Sean Taylor and adams or the obvious choice for the outside guys They have they're both, you know 90 plus hip power. They're both fast I think 94 speed and they both made plays for me. So and I was obvious and then at safety You know, obviously 94 speed won't do it. So I had fuller and Humphrey 96 speed each so just so they don't get bombed And they both have like 82 hip power. So, you know, if if they go up against Tyree kill or andre robert So he's gonna hit them and maybe force a fumble, but you know, you know, those those four like were the biggest Like the biggest pain makers on my team then Byron Jones was just there if I had a if I wanted to man him up on the side receiver He had like high agility high man And he's low cap. So I was like, he was the obvious choice and he was 93 overall So he was tier three sprinter tier times two sprinter. So And then the four down line man, Jason Taylor curse gave martin to god and then you probably put d4 at the end, right? Yeah, I just want to speed on the outside with like Pretty good finesse moves. So d4 and curse was like the obvious It definitely worked and then I think everybody had physical ed read was a monster the whole tournament Oh, yeah, bro, like he's like literally the the best player on my team, I'd say Uh, he can do everything like he would just he'd stop the run for me He can make tackles He would just man up on anybody if you wanted to like I just would you could find me doing like during that tournament I literally put him on the middle of the field and if they flipped their bunch I flipped their bunch. He's just in the middle of the field. So I'm just gonna keep manning him up on This guy I want him to man up on so Instead of like, you know, I mean like That's where I'll just put I'll just put him in the middle and just have him like make plays for me And I just use it with Danian It was crazy about they talk about that people flipping bunch like you'll do a bunch of adjustments and then no flip bunch Yeah, right, but then their adjustments don't change. But if you flip your defense, you got to redo everything Yeah, a little different. It makes it a little bit tougher on defense. I think that's something Either if I flip my defense my adjustments should be the same or if they flip their offense It should kind of reset all their routes. You know, but I don't see but you're obviously able to handle that Talk about the Danian Thomas a minute because 43 cap. I know he's fast and can get the sprinter You need a linebacker that can get sprinter. So he went up to all the way up to what 93 speed Yeah, 93 speed with high zone and it can hit. So That's all you really need from a linebacker. Although he was like pretty small It'd be hard to make plays with him. I felt like he was just too good for the cap No, it's not used And then being able to get sprinter, you know, that one spot was definitely Because that's the hardest thing about trying to get to a three-spinner or salary cap Is you kind of get between him and D forward and then your d-line. Definitely I mean it worked out Because you have all these players and shawntailer man. That's you got to have shawntailer on the field I feel like Obviously a lot of people had the physical shawntailer at 96 speed or whatever the hell he was But for you to have the real shawntailer talk about what, you know, why you chose this shawntailer over, you know A lot of people had obviously Jamal Adams, but then a lot of people just had corners. So talk about shawntailer Well, I just made I just made sure that my First of all, like I ran, I think I ran cover three a little too much For me to use Ronnie Lott and Darwin James like the rest of those dudes So like if I ever deported them like they just get burned every single time So I had to get some speed out there But the reason I use this shawntailer over the 59 shawntailer is like I just don't want to get babied around If they pass it to shark, you know, I need my dudes to just lay them out And you know, make sure that they don't want to do it anymore. So shawntailer, you know, it was obvious choice And he had high zone too And he has the clutch trade The clutch trade Shawntailer will always make plays for your big games. Remember to chat and if you listen to this on soundcloud man Make sure you check on youtube because I do have this team up right now You can look at all these cards and everything I will put the link to this team in what you can call in the description of all this If you're playing sour cap right now, this is the team to use I actually think I want to go ahead and duplicate this exact team or some The lines of it, but I could never run and right now I I'm the guy like kiv that has the 150 cap quarterback And the 100 cap wide receivers But now looking at not well this team's put together got me rethinking that and that's where salary cap starts, man If you're not going to have the right team You're going to struggle really to do anything From there. I mean that that's the beginning of the battle with salary cap And that's why we love it. Not only do you have to play the game you have to make your team And that's the first step and I thought journey really was prepared with the team Uh, who helped you the most getting ready for this tournament So we got it's for sure ghosts and rage those two Ghosts and go ghosts. Yeah ghosts actually like for the most part he helped me out with that defense Like I kind of take that defense for him, but the offense as My offense is like totally different from his like the roster wise. I see Ghosts isn't the one that had joe mixon. So you definitely But you definitely say cap between the quarterback and the wire receivers for pretty much everybody else, but So it worked out for you, but Uh, shoot Let's talk about going into the final game, you know, you had been to You had just lost the finals. You were what one and two in mcs finals before that Yeah, about to give him a ketoba. So talk about the, um The thought process going into The final game So I just gameplay wise like what am I gonna do? Yeah, like what should both gameplay wise and both like just your mental Because obviously you couldn't lose three finals. You know what I mean? Like it's definitely going into this is definitely way more pressure on you than there was on spoto Yeah, for sure. I mean Sure Once you lose two, bro, I you just can't go one and three. That's just horrible. Yeah That was just my mind. So I was like, bro, I cannot lose again If I lose again, right, I was like, I got to get out of here. I'm my retire but So I just put a lot of pressure on myself to win this game I don't know and but gameplay wise I feel like I had a really good strategy for spoto I seen I seen I seen spoto play skimbo The problem with skimbo when he played defense on spoto, he was a little too predictable I could run the same thing over and over and over So I just took the defense that one defense that skimbo ran on spoto And I just mixed it up with the defense. I like usually run with tripside And so I just give him different looks every single time And like spoto is not a crazy offensive player like if you give him different looks he's gonna struggle here and there And like he's not a crazy tripside end player. So I knew it would work for him I just like it was a matter of fact if he could stop the run and I knew he would he would be a good like past defensive player So, you know, I had to run the ball a lot Okay, no, I will tell you obviously to me the biggest player this game Was this pick six. I don't know. You got the stream up. Are you watching? Yeah, I'm watching. Okay, so Because he doesn't feel bad to start the game. He doesn't really uh Because he obviously played against that defense the skimbo ran This is gonna be the third time this over g, you know, no basal line And pretty much uh, just flirt with blitz in that corner and not listen. I'm so for that just because of that He has to mention somebody over every time Which the one thing about tripside end to me Is that that was the problem with it last year not so much this year But it really didn't have the same quick snap abilities as bunch Where you had to motion this guy every time to make it that effective, you know And that's something that that he he started to get the feel for against skimbo And we're going to talk about that a little bit later. Definitely started getting the feel for it against skimbo, but He started this game fairly well against you man. I thought he really had a lot of momentum But as you said about skimbo skimbo does run the same defense pretty much primarily most of the game Whether whatever his plan is that's his plan. He sticks to it Where you know, if you want to use over g you have to use it to the best of his ability And the best thing about it is it's so versatile And the way he was really driving me in the first possession like literally were all hitches and curls So I was kind of getting frustrated So I was just happy he made that one mistake, honestly And the mistake that's what was made to me was just something that he hadn't done Pretty much the whole game against skimbo on all the games that I told skimbo is in the middle of the term I said Spottles really only that that he's comfortable throwing and he'll try on this play It's just this out route this motion in out route That's pretty much his only like that that he was really comfortable throwing And this is the play of hosam dole picks six is that when he first makes this read and you'll see here He wants to build a ball or any moss everybody wants to do the big play Nobody wants to go to check down and he waits too long to see, you know, can I throw this check down? Or damn Yeah, he was actually a drag to the tight end and you just waiting to see There goes your open field stick ability, which is the worst in the nation But Yes, I want you I want you to do something you got a score there You got one on one with the quarterback But I feel like he waited to see if the deep route was going to be open Whereas in the other games against skimbo, he would if his check down was there He was going to take it right away. Pretty much. Yeah, that's pretty much what cost him right there And that you said that was a marlin humford that made this huge play Yeah, 95 zone. Yeah, that was pretty wild actually really was definitely he really jumped that and that spin move was just I'll tell you guys if you guys watch journey play anytime he's around somebody he just spams b and Some of the times it works. Other times it looks ugly. That was one of the times. Yeah, you got it You got to do something there. You know, you got the whole field I'm saying it's definitely a ability to make move. But now you get a pick six Not a pick six, but a pick and a decent return your damn there and feel well arranged Talk about what the that's a huge momentum shift. It's a huge way to start a big game Yeah, I mean then I come into this I know spoto never mends up his safeties So it's never going to be run support from his safety. His safeties are never going to shoot down So all I just know that's going to be me versus the linebackers and You know versus versus kroto band little man They made it a little tougher on me because they would just man up their safeties every single time if they thought I was gonna run the ball But photo literally gave it to me every time But how did you know that he was never one man up his safety? I played I just seen him play against skimbo and everybody else like he would know He would just man up. He just has three really good linebackers He has edmunds shantella and eddy read and he just like get adjusted with those two and then use a shantella And he would never like he would just have like a base covered He either run either run cover three or cover two with those guys manned up So now you go and the one thing I'll tell people about Tight and this is what the thing that I hate that he does Spoto and what allows this inside zone to go for a touchdown Is that you baseline is tight Yeah, that's horrible baseline tight journey You notice is that now the corners are not in run support at all So when you baseline tight you pretty much these two corners are doing absolutely nothing against the run So what that is allowed is that people you'll block all these guys You'll block all these guys in the box and right now he only has three three six people Seven if you count this nickel corner, which really isn't doing anything because he's all the way to the right Runs going to the left So he only has really six people in the box and look how much many people you have in the box five six seven eight nine people In the box to block So what happens there because he baseline which if you're going to baseline tight You've got to move these guys halfway in they can't be all the way out there So both the runoff first down and the runoff second down Most of my over and somebody gets right up to the safe You do a great that was actually probably the best thing you've ever shown And it was so subtle where you just went back in and allowed that guard to get to the safety 97 speed mixing pop back outside for the touchdown So you gotta take a nose man when I play against site I will never baseline for that exact reason it makes the run so much better when you baseline, right? Yeah, literally this is a numbers game. Yeah, the numbers on them and the one thing about journey is that You let journey run for touchdowns. He's never going to lose if he's the two running players and he's got seven points already Some people, you know, you might give up like a ten yard rush and they'll just stop running Like, uh, if they just give me the rush, I'll just keep going That's the difference between like a runner and a passer. I feel like I'm sure but now you got seven points now You know now you're like your foot is like not on his throat But it's getting close to where if I can get one more, you know, one more touchdown or one more stop It's gonna get really dark for him Yeah And oh, I know like little men answer but I felt like they're like similar players Like not like gameplay wise, but like in a mental like once I scored that touchdown got to stop on both of them I literally put on aggressive the next session and they both in a hard stat Not so so they start rushing they start yeah They start playing out of character out of character. You see as you see spoto calling the four verts right here Lobbing the ball up that would have been a pick too if it wasn't an overthrow Chantel is going to take that I feel like and the one thing about this game If you get a one-on-one like that where you're not burnt It's a pick but if you're burnt by a step, it's a rack egg So it's pretty much I mean I I have no problem with that as far as the game's concerned Where it's either a pick or a rack egg and that definitely probably would have been a pick Yeah, that actually was match Actually was not right there. So yeah, and I shit Yeah, so that's why another reason why you know, I couldn't have run you about in there when james out there Needed my speed out there and right there you see him like he's rushing like he's not even taking his hitches anymore He's like it's the crossing that hitch was there Got got you know forward is 10 yards boom looking rough But I mean we've all been in games like this, you know, where's where's a blowout on both sides, you know And it's like at what point do you feel like now he's just on aggressive You're just killing him at what point do you feel like the game is cooked like I want to I feel like once you're up two possessions and uh with ball it's over but I don't know like here I knew the game wasn't over like once I got this Once I got this stop right here. I just knew like he was gonna struggle the whole time I could just tell he was gonna struggle the whole time the way he was playing But I just knew I had to just keep playing the same way I had it if I play conservative I knew if I just like let go of the gas he might come back I just had to keep playing the same way the whole time Yeah, that's just That's all bad I throw it out. I'm pretty sure That's why I told you I said man, I was just watching to steal your dots And he just pretty much ran the ball. It will pretty much every play That's one thing that most set about you too like That a lot of times you would get too conservative and run the ball But obviously when you pass the ball the first play that shows that man you're trying to go out here and get Squares get it done. Yeah, you go high ball streak. I gotta add that to the arsenal That was just the ends I passed. I don't know why he yelled that wall stuff I like to set up. I mean, I know you learn some things, you know over here watching the stream Draft slant fade, you know, that's definitely uh, definitely a killer setup And now it's pretty much just get a field goal go up two possessions Hey That's and you'll be feeling good Especially this is photo. He's a defensive player. He you know, he plays off his defense Confidence off his defense. So I think a lot of people are like that anymore 14 nothing and it's like it's like That talk about I mean, obviously you had the game vs. Crippleman last year the game versus kibb We're definitely tight games and talk about being in a game where I guess both your belts have been pretty much blowouts, right? Yeah, but the kib game was close for now. It wasn't a blowout this fast You know, you're going back and forth in the man challenge, but talk about like the relaxing feeling of you know, winning a game like this Oh, like for the first half, I mean, it really wasn't relaxing like when I was up 14-0 But like once it was like 21-0 and I and I knew I got ball at half. I literally was even like I don't know. I felt like I could have done anything honestly and just like I would have won the game. All right I just felt like I could just pass every play. I could just punted the ball. I just felt so confident right there And I just knew that I was gonna win. So I don't know That's how I felt he was in like I felt like he didn't want to play anymore. I thought he knew he knew it was over He just didn't want to play anymore At that point sometimes I mean we all got a blown out before I'm saying it's just Definitely a rough feeling and then you can see you can see by the plays he calls that it's like Just kind of like let me get out of here and then you pick them on this little hitch route Yeah, look at his rock. I'm all post curl in the street pretty much kept you in the same spot for the most part You know, and it's just it and it goes fast, man When you're playing a game and you start getting blown out it really goes fast And then I mean that's nice. They got him out of there and the one thing about the man bowl was great It was a great way to end the season everything went well But pretty much I guess it's rough. The two side cap tournaments have definitely been blowouts in the last game You know that happens sometimes and you know, it's not you could do about it. Shoot You will take a blowout every time in a week and uh It worked out So Like I said, we want to know is the madden 19 champion gonna get a new bed Or what are we doing in size bruh king size? I'm taking a picture next week king size next week Are you going like with the with the memory foam? What are you dropping like seven grand on the bed? Like what's up? I mean grand. Hey, hold on. Are you gonna get cheap? I mean cheapest version out the cheapest king size they got Yeah Right there. By the way, I knew I knew he was gonna be in cover two just knowing them Four verts. Yep. That's playing the game gotta have it Bang Yeah, but that's it. So you got a new bed Uh talk about complexity and talk about what they've done for you this year and You feel like they have helped you and hasn't been a good decision in your man career to join a work like that Sure, definitely a good decision. First of all, you know, obviously getting a salary is gonna make you do this full time Like it's hard to do all this with that without a salary So that's gonna help out obviously and then you know, they've obviously been helping with you know, twitter all that stuff You know, every time I go live on twitch, you know, they'll always you know say something about it So, oh no, I feel like then I got the support from the cowboys. It's like all good with them Okay, so now that you want a belt you made another finals. So the price gotta go up next year, right? True. Hopefully right and the viewers bro. Yeah, you the viewers are you got them a hundred thousand people to watch mad and So like that you got to go into when the next season starts like listen, I'm journey You know, I'm the biggest name of mad and I'm team disney. I need to double my pay I mean, that's only right. I mean, if you ever need a manager Oh, you're saying oh, you're saying with the team. Yeah. Oh, yeah for sure. I did you're talking about mcs I was like, oh, listen, we're gonna have mcs round table during the off season. All right We won't get you on here. We won't have like five six people We don't have a lot of mcs air them out, you know podcast Personally, oh, yeah, I already know Yeah Yeah, let them know like listen. I'm journey. I'm the biggest name of man. I'm the best man player in the last two years so Yeah Anyway, so what's next for journey after you got two belts the seasons over? What's the Move going from here going into man 20 Sure, I'm gonna do the I'm gonna do things that none of the other boat winners are doing. I'm going stream For the most part because you're kind of been bullshitting on streams. No, it's because of tournaments. I promise Well, we're one stream and plates ornaments, you know, but you'll get there once you get, you know Once you get a little bit better, you'll get there. I'm saying not everyone Not everyone could be problem and dub dub dub. That's so long as you know, you know, but I mean, that's how it is But yeah, I mean definitely if you can continue to capitalize off this It's definitely a You know in your bestie like you the biggest name in the world now and I don't think that's gonna change Because I don't think there's any mad they can put out that you would be ass at And I really don't know what they could do. So I'm assuming journey is going to be a top three player for the next 10 years So that's definitely how it's gonna be. But also I have you on here. What are some things That you want in man 20, like what are some things that you wish are a man 20 that aren't in this game or improvements? I feel like To make sure to to make sure like users are back. I don't know like the high ball They need to take that all the way out the game. I don't know. I feel like Yeah, I feel like if they're like under a row And they lurk you I feel like a high ball shouldn't bail you out and they shouldn't get animation never Because the high ball But isn't it weird to say let's take that out because you should be able to throw the ball high And be able to use them tall receivers and and so on and so forth. So it's a tough balance really Oh, maybe like if you high ball it like there should be no threshold for a high ball Where you just never overthrow it again Like you should be able to you should you should overthrow like maybe 50% of the time if I'm underneath it Like you it's gonna be accurate every time. Oh, yeah for sure. And I feel like the only time is really like 50% is in the end zone And there should be a different like it should get to a point where okay if I want to throw a high ball All right, let me use Tom Brady and he'll never overthrow the thing, you know, and he'll put it on a point every time But uh, oh you say you're saying the pocket passers. She never Yeah, it should be a difference in passing the ball between, you know, the Tom Brady and Michael There's really not enough difference between those two quarterbacks to use one of the pocket passers But if you went ahead and said all the high balls and low balls would be 100 accurate Now that's a reason to use one of the pocket passers really. Oh, yeah Yeah, they can do that too. Shoot make Tom Brady accurate make from our direction and accurate Shoot, I don't know. I don't know what people use. Do you think people still use the mobile qbs or anything? They'll see Tom Brady. I think you'll always use a mobile quarterback But in regs if a team is good, you see a lot of people use Tom Brady to share regs because the pictures were that good So, uh, it's definitely I really think there should be a There should be a difference in the door accuracy. I think that's the biggest One of the biggest reasons why the game has kind of fell off is that You know, there's really no difference between a great passer and a In a mobile quarterback. There's really not that big a difference. So you might as well go with the one that's fast Yeah, I don't know. I feel like I feel like if they make someone faster, like This dude, Michael Vick has 90 something deep throw and 90 something short Yeah, like you shouldn't be able to be that high with 99 speed and then be only 105 cap Yeah, for sure And a lot of it we we talk about man in relation to salary cap and competitive and stuff and a lot of that isn't really the The focal point for the most part, you know, these guys want to sell games to little kids and you know, so on and so forth so But yeah, I really do wish there was a difference between um, uh, you know The mobile quarterbacks and pocket passers and that's pretty much what that news is about The abilities for the quarterbacks next year and the players next year. Did you see any of that? What do you think about that? Uh, I don't like it. I don't know a lot. I mean Tyder Mahomes being able to throw 80 yards Is not a good idea. I don't know. I'll be dumb Yeah, but I mean I guess he can kind of throw far in real life, you know I don't know. I think and the one thing that in the article that was said was We want to balance out, you know, good quarterbacks that can pass in a pocket Also compared to, you know, mobile quarterbacks and to me that comes down to just make the make the ratings work You know make my accuracy matter as opposed to giving my man some superpowers Yeah All right, you shouldn't be able to need a ability To see the difference between Tom radium michael wick For sure. For sure. I mean I think we're pretty much all on the same page of we wish the quarterbacks were a little bit different Ratings wise, but um, I mean the year is over. So can you give me like your overview on man 19? What did you like the game was it's obviously successful year for you? But do you think ultimately the game was good? and I feel like I feel like shoot. I don't know. Maybe my I think my 19 is better than man 18 for sure I don't know man 18 was god awful. I feel like air trucking 91 zone Powerful at sea route glitching. I feel like that was the worst man of never and crazy people putting that ahead of man 19 but man 19 I feel like I don't know It's like people are like complaining about defense in salary cap, but they just never spent cap on defense And I think it's just their fault for them playing like that Yeah, for sure. And I think I think a lot of the cap was a little bit bad I think I think the defensive players should have kind of been half of the cap that they were You know, whereas, you know, like even you had you had good defensive players But you didn't have the best defensive players You know what I mean? And I think if you would have cut the salary cap in half of the defensive players Would have made for the game to be a little bit better because I honestly As much as people killed mad 19. I don't think it's that's horrible. I agree with you a thousand percent that last year was way worse You know, there was people able to score just because they could air truck and run somebody over and my whole team would stop And it was for a touchdown So I definitely think mad 19 was a better than man 18 I think a lot of people especially the negative people always get caught in the moment of this game is the worst ever But in actuality, it's definitely a step up from last year And and we'll see what they do as far as incorporating these new features and getting a new game out Because I did talk to rex and he said they're real way more concerned about Putting new features in the game and selling it to a new audience rather than perfecting the old game So we'll see where they go. I'm excited about it But I said you won't get on your ground for your stream in and the youtube merit that you want to play regs Are you going to go to Dallas? Oh, yeah, I'm for sure. I'm I don't know. I'm I'm leaning. It's like 90 percent 90 percent. I'm going 90 percent I mean, listen at the end of the day, it's going to be fun Raises a different mode. It's definitely going to be the tyreek hill show So I'll definitely find the best ways to bomb every coverage out of out of wide trips You know, so I might just I think the best way you don't want to fade I mean, if it depends if it's the EA tournament, I'm probably not but if it's just You know, if it's just a ricky dink neighborhood, I mean, it's 25k. You never know I get a couple fumbles, you know, I'm right there You know, I learned two hitches in a post out of tight offset. I've seen enough, you know And the audible down a little bit more to uh tight slots. I need to do that into my arsenal a little bit I mean But well, we're happy with the way man 19 ended really A long year for sure and uh, definitely under one positive note I don't know what they did to get a hundred thousand people watching these games. I mean, I'm glad they did it I would say that this some type of view buy and you know, you know embedded viewers But it looks good, you know, and I've said this on the stream a lot, man It really looks good That um, they added those viewers and that they you know, made it look more presentable I think that always regardless of how good it is everything when you see 80,000 people or 90,000 people It looks better than 14,000 people, you know, and I'm glad they did that And it really made for good entertainment and made for a good man game. Well, you guys really balled out Journey kind of just blew everybody out, but I don't know. Do you feel like you're getting the tiger woods effect where people are kind of afraid to play or play worse against you? I mean, I don't know I can't tell if I'm just playing good or if they're just playing bad. I don't know I think if you if you keep playing obviously you want to have an allure in your name where people will play Down because they're playing, you know, especially you keep up the consistency and keep up becoming the defensive player that you were it's definitely gonna Definitely keep growing and people want to start being afraid to play. I don't really want to play you. I mean, I'm being honest I'm like, man, I don't want to play journey. It's just annoying. I don't know what's coming. I don't know Who he's going to man up or the house on blitz seven people or you know, what running plays you want to run this play So shoot it definitely makes it harder to play against when you already established yourself as one of the best But then anything else you want to talk about? Mmm. No, not really. Can we get back to the program action? Oh, yeah, we back tonight. So it's program season for the rest of all season. We gotta get the team back, man I designed these beautiful jerseys for our program team and they pretty much, you know, are not getting used Oh, yeah, we back don't worry 11 p.m. Tonight 11 p.m. Tonight Jesus I wish I'll see man, but I really appreciate you joining man. And this is the fourth man Player man champion that I brought on this year. Everybody's been supportive of the show I really appreciate man. All you guys with his youtube and soundcloud All you guys probably already followed journey. He is the leader of the disney gang And the best man player in the world right now And that can't be questioned. And like he said, that's the best part of winning the belt Can nobody really question you anymore? He is the best player in the world and journey I really appreciate you joining the show All right, I appreciate you having me There he is man journey joker the man champion the 19 year old assassin I said, he's the best player in the world and I've said on twitter a lot when I watch him play man If you guys follow me, if you don't hit the link below it's in the description of both man journey really is Super impressive man. And it's not really about And so many people talk about man man players run the same play blah blah blah and journey is the complete opposite of that If you see him play and being a man player myself As I see him make high rouse make defensive adjustments I kind of think about what's going on in his head and the kid has been super impressive All year long. So I'm definitely happy for a man. He is the best man player in the world and it's pretty much a Pretty much been the best man player the last two years Just consistent and you know as far as he's got to be the number one man right now as far as I mean Skimbo's obviously my guy, but I mean to have you know two bells in two years and Being four finals in the last two years only two years competing and he's done that much man. He's definitely got to be the number one player We got a lot of stuff a lot more stuff to go over man. We're already 40 plus minutes into the show Like I said, I appreciate a journey to champ checking in But there was a lot of stuff going on and he won that tournament so easy There wasn't that many games to go over talking to all my I asked them What was your hardest game? He probably said Crotobin and I didn't think that game was that hard for him Obviously little man in Espoto games were blowouts And I mean, but ultimately the tournament went great. I hope all you guys watched it But I gotta talk about I mean the game of the week Game of the tournament was Spoto versus Skimbo you know and It's a lot to talk about about this game and it's a lot to really Uh really focus on and it's a lot to really dissect And it's kind of a two game thing Because it's too different. It's too different, uh, two different games. They had to play in They had to play in um, what's them called? They had to play in the group play Then they had to play in single elimination and I will tell you this Skimbo is the the best player that I play against You know without a doubt for me personally and uh But the more you play him Skimbo is the type of person the more you play him the easier it's going to get the uh The more you'll Get a hold of what you must do on offense and defense and you can see that with Spoto As the games went on, you know, you really got the the feeling you got the vibe that you know Maybe he's not as comfortable Or you know, he's starting to get more comfortable and I definitely got those vibes as them to as the first game went on And obviously in the second game, I just felt his comfort level having to plan on what to do definitely, uh Definitely changed throughout and I'm gonna try to find I have the the the main game that we want to talk about up already I'm already ready to watch that but I definitely want to see The first game just to show you guys like where I felt like the game kind of took a turn Because the first game skimbo was skimbo was kicking his ass You know, he really was And I felt like man, this is definitely going to look This is this is going to be an easy win for skimbo As you see, I'm gonna just show you what skimbo's defense was It was just covered to I'll tell you this right now Covered to this guy's blitz and this is over g this guy's blitz and if you're listening on soundcloud It's just over g is a four man front doesn't baseline this corner so he can blitz too So you kind of have two slot corners six man rush and this is how if you want to play chips tight end This is a great way to play against chips tight end defensively gives them the lot to think about So what happens with skimbo pretty much user this guy and this guy in the middle of the field Who'll have covered to one side this guy right here in the yellow zone to guard any like quick hitches Drags anything quick over the side of the field. So pretty much when you're rushing six people And you have three zones over here. This is pretty this side of the field is going to be tough to throw to And you have another safety right here The screen is zoomed. Oh, yeah Oh, yeah, well, I can barely see it on my screen either Oh, yeah, there we go. Let me go ahead and make it a little smaller pause Technology The thing is when you go from When you go from uh, you to or you go from youtube to eat to twitch is the screens always a little different So pretty much skimbo would do this and and you see spoto has three points And his defense really gave spoto a little bit of trouble Early in the games, you know, and this was his plan against Trips tight end and it made you motion this guy every time And skimbo has to guard the side and this became the one play that spoto started getting comfortable throwing Was the out route or the flat route or the zig route to the wide side of the field And once he started getting a feel for what skimbo wanted to do there And uh, so on and so forth. He does force him to feel goals Holds him to feel goals. I don't know what those skimbo's are taking too many warning But skimbo scored points. That's what made this game where it was it was It was in his hands like he had this game easily But it's the same defense it forces spoto to motion somebody over to make him put this corner in coverage So now he's only rushing five now when you motion somebody's over still has to guard this flat area And this was pretty much the plan and I feel like spoto really didn't start to really even start to get comfortable until late in the game And skimbo made one adjustment between the the next two games pretty much So on and so forth when when do you get the point where oh my gosh counting? Here we go But he gets to a point where he's a lot more comfortable the skimbo does go down here I believe he scores another touchdown. I think this game gets to 23 to nine. It really gets Oh, he gets the fluke. That's definitely the fluke But as you see like he's on bliss this corner and this is his man to pretty much guard I don't know and he puts this guy right here in a deep third. So this is why it opened Throw shinshark misses it dion sanders pick six is this play Now as much as that was fluke And and this is what impressed me about and I will kill you kill spoto today. I died because I think you can get a lot better mentally and you see skimbo's face right there Like he not happy about getting that but he feeling I feel like that just won him the game And most of the time spoto y'all seen spoto in the past like he's been a powder He's been a complainer angry blame the game type of person for a play like that That was completely fluke completely just screwed him like for him to come back in this game And really continue to uh to go back go on and win this game And it's 24 to nine it's two minutes left from the third quarter in the third quarter This game to me was cooked absolutely cooked And for him to come back after a fluke play like that that showed me more than any any win He's ever had a live event online, whatever it may be Uh, that was probably this is probably the most impressive thing. He's done as a man player For me personally has come back from down what was down 15 points with two minutes left was definitely huge And uh, so he starts to get comfortable with this defense He scores seven so on and so forth and then skimbo comes down here and throws a pick six I believe I think this is the play right now actually Yeah fires right in the vert hook bad read takes it through the crib So he definitely came all the way back. We want to see another commercial But my point was he came all the way back from that so from there I felt like he had a mental He already had a little mental advantage skimbo said damn this kid locked me up in the second half Came back and won the game. So fast forward to the next two days. They both make it out They both make it to the final four So they both make it to the final four blah, blah, blah So skimbo already on edge Like this kid is ready to beat me blah, blah, blah and So he already has some bit of a mental advantage on him. So the first play out skimbo does a pick Which to me, I I mean I understand why we go pick on the first play Because I'll show it to you guys right here. He goes a pick on the first play because What you call it because you never see a linebacker cover this route Cross man ed read Runs that long with randy moss and picks that off And I don't know if he needs a fast and randy moss But we have been playing man all year and tell me that baby cross man can ever run With pat sail. It definitely ran with pass for bad pass sail for real So that definitely I'm not mad at that interception because you never think he's want to run all the way across the field But he definitely did so that definitely caught skimbo off balance a little bit Yeah, so most people are way more comfortable, but this ed read. I don't know if he I don't think he'd do it too bad. He just really covered it. So it's definitely yeah Definitely 97 speed ed read and you saw he covered it and that's when spoto starts capping a little bit And I I will tell you this about capping. I don't think spoto is a capper I think he just talks shit And that's the difference and we're gonna get into that A lot you're on you know in the next couple minutes as far as capping was acceptable Who can talk shit how to talk shit? Definitely want to get into that because it's it's uh, I don't want to say it's a big deal for me But it's definitely some things that I can tell you guys And I've always been good at talking shit. I've been better at talking shit than I have been at a playing man No chance that's what's You know what I'm saying I feel like a spoto shot a spoto if you want to hop into this court, man, I'd love to talk to you But I feel like he talks shit, but he's not a capper. I feel like that's a big difference Yeah, yeah, yeah capping. I'll get to that. I'll get to what's acceptable was unacceptable But but I feel like he really and you can tell this game. He really got comfortable against that defense You know what I'm saying No spoto I ain't out of punk And this is the passes that skimbo started dropping that he was catching versus other people But you could tell he's not comfortable spoto played unreal defense and skimbo made some terrible passes Really? Oh, yeah, they definitely don't have the spoto. He's not a capper. He'll and you can get better than but he definitely talked shit And this was a play. This is a play right here Shallot kept man 20 most among the subs But this was a play that had me this was when I first was like, okay He's not comfortable because I skimbo play once he don't run this play Two drags boom and he should have got alerts right here And that's what why he lobbed the ball up because he hesitated and he overdrew that Look at spoto. He's talking to mike skim. I'll tell you what that's not gonna face skimbo though Oh, yeah for sure. We can definitely oh, yeah Are you do you have my discord spoto? Do you have my discord? Yeah, so But this is why I get to is that skimbo's down 10. He's really getting bagged Definitely was really getting bagged. Um He definitely This is the skimbo viable, but this is skimbo capping is him just Look at the kids that's skim, but that's that's his aura. That's what he does. Like he don't Professional doesn't even respond to the trash talk gets back and locks in and that's what you're gonna have to do You know, this is his vibe If you have mike skim, there's plenty of that's his that's his aura. I'm saying that's what he did versus Dang, see this is the skimbo vibe. That's it. Now. I'll show you this The skimbo to get up like this and this is the game I go to about somebody really capping at him and that's ice Right, that's the goal jamal charles not that Now ice would ask So it's a different vibe You know what I'm saying? It's a different vibe when you plan somebody that you want beat as opposed to somebody you worried about And I feel like no matter who you plan. I feel like you always gotta keep the same Demeter whether you're afraid of person or whether you're not I feel like you have to keep the same demeter And when skimbo stood up and did the extra shit I feel like that's and you can see sport will look like damn you really stood up Like I really am in your head because you really just stood up out of nowhere Like I got skimbo to do all this shit that he don't do I'm definitely in his head and that's what I'm saying if you sit here and you're saying if you can let this Kid cab at you or bazooka joe cab at you and you keep that same skimbo stare that I'm skimbo I'm not gonna look at you type of stuff Then that's definitely once you show or once you go to where I'm gonna stand up and start capping That's how you you know the kid really feels like yeah Yeah, I'll put you in sport. Hold on I see I see it. I see it So I felt like that once you break your character and I'll tell you this once you break your character That's when you show the other person that you're getting to on You know once you react and in turn over react Then you show your opponent that you're getting to and I feel like that's what skimbo did by starting to cap And I feel like this is where I let him down not being there because this supposed to be my job I saw not only did I see skimbo get capped at by a 17 year old I saw a little man just just air bugs out Little man was just giving it to bugs and blowing them out And I felt like I let them team because I wasn't there to help them cap because they're not good at cap Skimbo and booze they don't cap. They're just good at the game That's my job. I really equated it to dream on green. I am the dream on green of the team I do all the dirty work and without further ado Let me pull in the young angry spoto you Well, he's in the discourse so whenever you turn his mic back on We can talk to me. I'm saying it's all right. What's up? W? What's up? What's the word man? First? I want to congratulate you on your epic run in the madden ball I know it didn't turn out the way you wanted to but you really elevated yourself And played at such a high level Yeah, thank you. I definitely thought that I'd really break through by beating skimbo twice especially in the first I was down. I was able to keep my composure Okay, yeah now and you I feel like you came into a point where all we do like you start realizing Skimbo is very similar and once you play him enough you start getting a vibe for what he's doing Did you feel like every single drive you got more comfortable and became a better player against him? I mean for the most part it's the same thing every single play on defense So it's by motion over it kind of took away. What do you want to do? That was in the second half of the first game That's what I did but it stuck with that in the second game and on defense I just kept doing the same stuff and he was having trouble For sure Like he really couldn't move the ball that second game besides those two big steam streaks Like he didn't really like work at all Yeah, for sure. It definitely was not Now I felt like it took you a little bit of time To get a hang of what he was doing on defense. I feel like it's I told him between the games I said Spoto was not comfortable the first game. Give me one second. I'll be even once like my mom's calling Uh-oh, see that's the 17 year old You know saying sometimes your mother going to interrupt the interviews and stuff But uh, yeah, I said he thought he had a great game Kepp, yeah, we're gonna get into that. We're gonna get into that and that's That's something that I've always been a big on and it just depends on like we grew up playing basketball where you don't use You you don't no matter what you're doing You can talk all the shit in the world, but you can't use there's pretty much two key words That you can't use pretty much in any form whether it be basketball Football or mad and video games, whatever maybe you really can't use those terms When you're talking shit and that's bitch and pussy those two words I love that. Are you back? Yeah, yeah All right, so let me talk about oh, yeah, like I said I felt like it took you a long time to get kind of hip to what he was doing on defense Especially the first game. I didn't think you were comfortable offensively in the first game at all Oh, no I'm not gonna be that good on offense in with so then I started getting screamed at and I was a bit like shook In the first half figured it out Like the the drive going into the half. I definitely feel like I was able to ball by motion better So I just stuck with that the rest And it's definitely a pain in the ass When you run through that and when you start to feel like I have to motion this person over every time Because of me personally, I'm like I would get too impatient to do that every single time You know what I mean? And but that's what you had to do And then once you've kind of realized that and I told him the one dot that you started to get real comfortable with Was just that zigg or that out route to the the wide receiver side Because we get it Yeah, I feel like you once you start getting comfortable with that that was your main I'm just go to this this is when I need to get four or five yards or six yards I'm gonna go to this same setup every time Once you got to that that was your only comfortable real comfortable that because you're never going to throw into his user ever You're never going to hot. It's just it's just too tough to make that guess. So you're going to try to stay away from that But then defensively talk about the plan defensively against bunch All right, so the plan that I was Was I was trying to flip ed read have him on the opposite side of the solo guy Kimbo wouldn't really freak him or put him on a comeback So he was always going to be in the play and then I would shade inside and down And so he would be able to stick on to the pad sail route. Okay, so that's the glitch. Okay That's well. Yeah, I'm not really playing much anymore. So that's basically how I would defend Bunch because he versus him because he wanted to do the same thing He wanted to keep putting that post on the field every play Yeah between the pad sail post or that or the Okay, okay, so that so pretty much by doing that you kind of just eliminated the loan by receiver. So that's Definitely work definitely slowed him down a lot And I talk about talking shit. So what's the the mindset going on again? You are playing probably the best player ever before this tournament. You're saying so he is a aura. So he's obviously You know has a lot more presence than you and you just I mean that's just what I was gonna do no matter what like that's what I do almost every game So that's just how I was gonna act But I mean I just do it mostly like for entertainment too like people found it entertaining Like it was the most boxed game from out in the twitch. I think ever So like I was just trying to be entertaining and at the same time though It's trying to get in your opponent's head like once skimbo got up Trying he was acting like I've never seen him act and then you see on stream He makes the mistake and dies instead of sliding like I knew he was out of his elements like he was not comfortable at all Like when he was getting up and yelling I was like, wow, I really dig it and he was denying it And then he said he might lose And like he didn't even believe in himself at that point and I've never seen that before Okay, so what you're saying is once you got him out of character gave you a little bit more confidence Definitely He kind of like almost showed weakness at that point. Okay, definitely. I that's how I felt That I said damn, okay, and you talked about the entertainment point Do you feel a responsibility as a man player to add entertainment to the game? Uh, I mean the game is exactly that entertaining for the average person They don't really understand depth of like what goes into playing defense and the playing offense Do you like bunch they saw all tournaments? So I definitely think that being a competitive player You kind of have to bring your own like mojo into it to try and be more entertaining Okay, and I like I said, I feel like you talk shit, but you're not an elevated cabriolet Like you don't have the Muhammad Ali Type of vibe to you just talk shit, you know once you start getting better because I felt like When he the second time after he took the lead and was standing up and saying all that dumb shit if you just said if you would have just said like You way too loud to have a pink jersey on or just clown him a little bit He would just killed him and on top of that like Because you had the vibe even when he kept you the first time you were still laughing I'm like, I'm in your head But once he took the lead you had to look like he was even saying you got to get this same look all the time Even when you're losing because regardless even when up 14 13, I feel like Um, you've still got ball to have the game was still At that point I was still comfortable because he hasn't moved the ball that well It was just like too big plays. He wasn't putting like established drives together So I still felt like he was boxed if I was able to get like a couple nice plays I'll be able to be back in the game to end up happening For sure definitely the defense won the game, but I do want to talk about The one thing like I said by using the phone with your mother or whatever. Um No matter where what whatever field I'm in and talking shit whether it be basketball or football because I've always talked shit And it was better than basketball because I was the worst player and I talked the most shit So made people even more mad But the one thing that that really pisses people off with a grown man Whoever it is when you call people bitch and pussy or say suck my dick Does any of that like not that you said suck my dick or but you just say bitch That's what you said to me. So He said what he said to you. That's what you said to me. When? I don't even Bro like months or two ago when I said that to you I said what? Suck my dick. That's he says to me. Oh, yeah You know, but that's my point is that now skimble not the type of person and go running your mouth And no crazy shit like that. You know what I mean? He's not that type of person But if you continually get comfortable saying that stuff Every once in a while you're gonna run into somebody that will Go in your mouth because of that because the same stuff like that So that's why I've kind of avoid try to avoid that type of stuff like I've always wound up when I'm in Instance like that. I've always been on a type to say dumb ass or dickhead or someone or so forth like that Yeah, I mean I was trying to curse less that game too because I did end up getting fine first So you got fined for what? Uh when ryan got the onsite and mr. Phil going you said fuck. Yeah Uh, yeah, I think so because it was on stream. They've had it in the highlights Yeah, so I mean it's definitely tough because and that's one of the reasons why I never got into Getting up and capping like you guys did because I would curse entirely too much I already knew that like I know that going into games. So that's why I never get into that because I it will be uh, you know Explosive. Yeah, fine. Mine would be very bad and and people that watch me put on stream That's I curse at the little Johnny's down the street. That's just how it is You know, and uh, that's definitely something I knew would happen if I started capping too much So that's why I always try to stay away from that and skimbo. You guys both did a good job with capping really uh Without cursing so much and this is where skimbo says his wild He did a skimbo did a John Cena. You can't see me. Hold on He did a John Cena. You can't see me and then hit you with it I'm a girl you up. So what's going through your head when you hit you with this? I mean at this point it's a second in 18 and he just able to like do a seam streak right down the field So I was really disappointed what that happened On my usual it's like literally just starting nothing. I just kind of caught like doing absolutely So I was disappointed in myself and he gets up but like at that point Still not the locked in skimbo that you usually see So I was I still felt pretty good. I was getting ball here. I was I just I was getting ball after half and I just had that and that go up two scores and I felt really confident So skimbo hit you with a John Cena and they say he's gonna grow you up today But this is what I'm saying you now you had like the pouty face though Like you can't talk about that shit and then ever had the pouty face Like you gotta go back with the same smile See, this is the pouty face Like you gotta have the same laugh and smile and this is when you should have said just sit your ass down You got a pink jersey on and then it would have been dead. They even been sorry See, this is when you got you got to get more creative with your captain Yeah, I did like uh get back to food so I know what the best I might lose this game, but no and once skimbo said I might lose this game. I'll tell you guys man No, I don't care if you have zero confidence. I gotta bring you guys in here I don't care if you are playing LeBron James one-on-one I don't care if you're fighting Mike Tyson one-on-one. You can never cap and say I might lose that Do you think mom and Ali ever said I might lose but Like that's never an option when you're capping, you know, and that just showed you If my opponent's capping at me and words out his mouth are I might lose Then I feel like I'm the man now now talk about because people don't really know how much of this stuff could you hear I mean, you can hear a lot right there. We're right next to there. We were pretty loud Like I could hear everything he was saying so I knew once he said that I might lose this game I was like, this is not the normal skimbo. This is not the guy I expected This is not the guy people were predicting to win the whole tournament saying he's gonna lose the game Like he's won three belts and now he's saying he might lose the game in the semifinals Yeah That that's definitely that was definitely rough and uh at that point after this he didn't score another point Hand scored no not 26 for So that was the final and I'll tell you and I told him this man before he I said man If you don't turn the ball over you won't win the game and I feel that's how I feel about this game I feel like if he didn't throw these picks he still wins the game even though he was super bagged Good Yeah, but that's pretty much. Yeah, I gotta be out there in the chat Tell me and this is where I felt bad because he's not supposed to cap for himself. He's not good at capping You know and because I tell y'all skimbo things man He really cares about like how he looks especially to the kids he coaches his family and everything So that's why he really doesn't cap if you guys hear us play all the time He'll cap and talk shit, but he really don't like doing that on the stage So after that I feel like he was thinking about it more than he was thinking about actually playing the game and the show because He definitely started uh getting even more boxed In the second half there. Yeah, he was making like reasons he doesn't usually make I don't know what play it was It was like I'm third and instead of just throwing the ball away when he had like nothing open He throws directly at my either and I was like this just came over and he's just not he's just not locked in Yeah, so I definitely I definitely felt like at that point I needed to be out there To help him cap and then once I saw bugs get capped at by little man. That was definitely a rough Though those two guys I felt like I saw my friends getting beat up and I couldn't do anything about it But uh, what else do I want to say? Um, so talk about going to the tournament man And I tell you this all the time man I feel like you care about everybody where everybody think about you too much Is that do you use that for motivation or what what's your thought process going into tournaments? Well for this tournament I really didn't prep at all So from the time I I came home from the challenge to the time I went to the ball I only played four games out and I really was not taking it serious at all Like I played the reverse D cross one versus Henry. I truly just didn't care Like at this point I was like it's whatever whatever happens happens. I'm just gonna go there and I'm gonna ball the game's not And I'm just gonna go and we're gonna we're gonna do our best. So that's that's what I ended up doing It ended up working out surprising But yeah, so going into the tournament though Like I definitely think like because I'm a teenager like most teenagers like do care what other people think But like you especially have like got me to be to a point where like I just have to focus on me and just what I'm And like my friend and like who really like fucks with me exactly, I mean because This is the thing when you guys and that's what pisses me off because Everybody at this level is good and you you good enough to beat anybody as you showed this weekend or whatever And to me it's like if you're always worried about what other people think and what people on twitter think and what people would I think who the hell am I? You know, I'm not there anymore I'm the ultimate person just sitting back watching y'all play If you consistently try to cater to what other people think it's always going to be somebody that you that you never Want to have any satisfaction out of that because there's always going to be somebody else hating on you Even you look at skimbo and journey like they're at the pinnacle that they accomplished the most But there's still people that probably hate on them There's always going to be somebody that's you know, not approval where you are So if you constantly try to you know, please other people you're always going to be disappointed Because there's always haters at every everything to do. So that's when I see you The first thing you said all weekend was donnie moore's twitter. Yeah, I know I know I need to say something about that because it's like who cares about I don't even care about any more Let alone who the hell files donnie moore to that point, you know what i'm saying like those people They don't even know what's going on in med You know, and the best way to earn respect from these people is pretty much just go ahead and perform Just win. Yeah, go down and win You're never going to get like I said when you make x amount of live events with seven out of eight, whatever it may be Like It's it's never going to be enough for anybody, you know regardless, especially if you make your time Trying to you know appease to these the people that aren't playing the game The people that aren't aren't important essentially and I think that's really uh A big deal and I think you will become a better man player when you don't care about what all these other people think about No, that's definitely true. Just go there and do what you got to do Yeah, but I definitely I don't know about the playing only four games You know, I don't know if that's the move. Yeah, it definitely was not it ended up working out Yeah, but you definitely had the pg trips tight end Oh, I know it was it was real bad Yeah, so but talk about Getting blown out in the finals because I've been there Journey blew me out in the final six or whatever. Ultimately last year And it's a feeling like because you know, you pretty much lost the game like yeah And you got to sit there with the fake crowd still cheering. Yeah, I didn't have to deal with the fake crowd That would have made me sick I was sick And uh, you didn't kick I journey told me that you didn't kick a field goal to get points That was very respectable I'm saying I thought that one yeah, I was K3 like I don't know at that point like I played bad dream was probably the best player I played all year I really knew what he was doing. He was better than he put in a lot more time He knew what to do and he was running like I was so prepared for bunched I was I played for like four bunches and one trips So he comes out in this offense like I haven't really seen all year except when I was labbing him earlier and I just was I was kind of shook and then on offense. I've never been good So I just needed to somehow get points on the first drive or the enforcement path games got out of quickly And I mean it definitely sucked like the game basically over and you're just like Worked at because like you were one game away and then you get blown out on tv I get that and I've definitely been hearing about that too. So yeah, but I can't nobody really tell you about that Because at dinner today you made money and that that's what it's about really, you know I made a mistake right here to on the play on the stream What happened? I'm just talking So when I I ended up flipping my run because I was I don't know. I was just not good or whatever And I said of running the ball and giving because I have two timeouts giving myself and All playing out third down. I call it so late that I don't have enough time to get a playoff On a third so I have to kick on third You let the clock run all the way down. Yeah, I didn't notice that Yeah, I realized that as soon as I did it that I made a mistake Like what I'm why would you even wait right now? Like what's the I really don't know Jesus, I so I what I'm getting from this is that you put in no time in this game That that's I mean so so like what's what's the life of spoto like where where do you go from like what do you want to do like Like with madden and everything like you're still like book who young like you are I am twice as old as you So like wow that seems like Like do you want to be people in man? Do you want to be the best like what's your mindset as far as man's concerned? I mean I obviously I'm gonna keep on playing because I feel like without even putting in a lot of time I have been able to like make a decent amount of money And then but next year I'm going to college and dorming So it's gonna be like difficult to put in as much time as I used to put in back in madden seven But I'm gonna keep on playing to keep on trying to make Yeah, you might as well. I mean, but I said that's is where I'm different from you guys You know all you young guys Y'all still have your whole schooling and life and you're like pretty much Becoming adults where me it's like damn. I'm either going to cut trees or I'm playing mad So for me, it's the easy decision I'm going to put the most I can into man and for you guys is definitely uh Definitely a toss-up. You know, do you want to keep playing mad? You have an avenue to keep playing mad You have a lot as much as journey won the event and skimbo skimbo you I mean as far as Who's the talk of the tournament was you and skimbo's game? Yeah I definitely felt like the second game of a second game was the game of the year almost for the mcs Like not even like gameplay wise, but just like entertainment value I definitely felt like by both of us like getting up and saying stuff to each other and like nothing We've really had a pocket. I didn't feel like I mean like I said the bitch was a little crazy. Yeah, I know But you know that person but you might next you might be at some little tournament You know some back alley and say that and then somebody not yeah, you know what I'm saying So that's the only thing I would like because that's the only thing people can't get mad if you just cap out of a man You can't really say anything and it is salty I know skimbo was super salty and he was upset that I was even going to talk about this And uh had to get talked about man. It was like you said it was the biggest game of the tournament Definitely was the biggest most talked about game So it definitely had to get talked about And it's it was like the first game that I would that I still like a lot of like Well, that don't even really mess with competitive maddening much like content creators like talking about the game Yeah, but ultimately man, that's not and one thing like you said I care about the entertainment as much as It's not really our job. You know And that's something I remember Going into the ultimate league man last year. I was like man I don't want to run bunch because I want to do was more entertaining You know, and I felt a burden to where I need to be different just to make this more watchable And I felt hurt me as a player and if players start like you said, I have to go in to make this more entertaining You know, maybe that's gonna start hurting players and so on and so forth It's not our job to make this that entertaining. It definitely helps I think it's not just making it entertaining but like almost building your own brand like Be entertaining. So if you like start to scream or something you can get viewers just off People know how you're gonna be and people find that entertaining then they'll be able to do Let's get more viewers leads to like more opportunity in the future. So in other words, we're gonna have spoto streams I don't know. I don't know if like you playing madden this year. I'm not taking a break We'll see. I will tell you man is a lot better when it's not when you're not stressed about it That's very true. I'm not gonna be going to Dallas because I'm High school. So without like that tournament, there's really nothing else that I know that's going on. They're like warren Yeah, I'll talk about your pop like how much is he into this? How much does he watch this stuff? I mean, he's really supportive actually like He was giving me some tips like going to the skimble game. I was like dad. I played $5,000. I don't need any help But he really like that is another thing I'm madden to like it's not like any like Counter-strike or fortnight or anything like that. It's football. So like every sunday me and my dad used to dance watching dying So like that is one avenue that like this sport has to explore It's like that madden not madden the football like fan No, yeah, for sure. So everybody has their little two cents. They can put in Yeah, you know, I'm not I hear a lot. I hear it a lot trust Yeah, for sure. It was to me. It was like I I didn't like I said it was a man I'm older than you. So you kind of have to have your parents involved to an extent, you know, because yeah Me I was like, I don't want my Don't ask me about man. I hate that like my mom it's to this day Like who's playing the skimbo plan is such a such plan like I'm like, no I don't really want to talk man with you, but for you it's like it's kind of become a support system Yeah, definitely. I mean, they're definitely really supportive like they let me go I mean miss school time. I miss everything for it. I've missed like to play in tournament before I've had to like miss family And they they definitely know that like now in the beginning I didn't believe it like when I made that first challenge and I came out of my room I was like, mom, I just made $10,000 minimum They were so confused and the email start coming in there like wow, this is for real Yeah, I remember I told my dad the first time like two three years ago Yeah, I made $5,000 in Florida. He was like, oh, all right. Well, are you coming to work on Monday? Like what like it was definitely definitely different. So yeah, they were They had no idea. They didn't know anything about this And then that no my dad's gone to every single one now because I uh, I'm only 17 so he's has to Yeah, so that's that's cool. Definitely. Who helps you play the most you said D cropped and Henry does the only D cropped j. Well those three help Okay, so but you didn't incorporate no those three hitches on the field high ball I I know I just I know they just play different style with me on Yeah, they definitely played a lot different And this was I want to say this was the big play in the game yet You get a third and two you caught a right play with this hitch and then the curl And then yeah Now this I was trying to get to notice me. Okay now me Let me pause this game me is like and this comes in man all the time Like I just saw my play was wide open, right? And you gotta know that skimbo just saw that your play was wide open. All right. That is very true. Yeah So do you think okay? I'm gonna run the same play because I do this a lot too. I'm gonna run the same play But don't you this is where the chest gave him the he's gotta adjust to that, right? And you definitely think you would have to adjust to it, but I mean like the way that we plays Like to just do the same thing over and over again, and that's what I was picking up on and having the So if he doesn't switch the outside corner, he's gonna have to use her the curl route. So I didn't either have Corner from the tight end or the wheel from a running back with a hard fly or a cloud fly So I knew what my progressions were and as soon as that's what the same defense that's what I was going to Yeah, but then obviously you didn't high ball it. That was a good play Yeah, I wasn't gonna high ball it right especially after we're throwing the first time I just possession catch and try to get down Yeah for sure, but that's definitely something that even when I play weekend league play anybody When you see my play was so open. He's gotta run a different defense You know and that's pretty much sometimes you got to call a different play But you definitely went with the same play and it worked out because like you said that play has a lot of reads and it worked out man, but She's but so like I said, so we're not going to see any spoto streams Um, maybe next year we'll see we'll see Now's the time to capitalize No, that's definitely true. The game's been out for a while though. I really don't enjoy it too much. Yeah, so That's my fun plan that game. This is more like business Yeah, for sure, but it's like But it just comes down to what you want to do man, but no, I know But I see what I see what you're doing dreamies doing class doing like you guys are really building something Yeah, but it's definitely rough and it's definitely work and it turns it to a job a different type of job than just trying to be good at the tournament really but I said, I mean I really just bust your balls because you can be better than you are You know and all this stuff really All this man stuff really turns into life stuff, you know what I mean? It's like even say you're gonna go to college, right? And yeah, so forth and if you try to like impress every person and you're worried about what you know This professor thinks of this little so-and-so things then it's gonna you're never going to be satisfied You never want to feel like you accomplished anything You know just gotta try to get a better person and really become You know the best spot all that you can be From here on out really and that's why I say man really Man really compares the real life in a lot of different ways And also as far as the shit talking like if you want to talk shit You gotta laugh and smile every single time And if you're a skimbo, you just smile and laugh at the kids all you gotta do that every single time Keep your demeanor and keep your posture Whether it be you know from one week to the next week one day to the next day or one hour to the next hour Always keep the same head No, I know if I put in more time I feel like I can do way better. I gotta just focus on me Okay, so you want to stay on the p4 next year or you want to come over to the jungle? I qualified for clubs jungle No, qualifying for clubs is the easiest thing in the world though Come on now No, that's very true. Um, I don't know yet. I'll probably end up bringing both up to college See Uh, Sunni Albany In Albany like in the city Albany? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So how's that going to be? Are you excited? I Guess you got a little girlfriend or you single spoto single spoto Smart man, smart man. So definitely smart too much money to be thrown away. I'll say too much money gets thrown away being in relationships Yep Second level stuff. Geez that was a big All right, well I said man. Yeah, this was the play I was talking about where I just knew he was not his So I just rose directly at Sean tower I can't lie. I kind of turned the game off. Well, I was in the mountains and I lost my service I I didn't see this play. I don't think well, maybe I did and maybe this is when I kind of turned the game off Yeah, I don't know what the hell Yeah, that was a rough. I think he kind of wanted to stay on the sideline, but Yeah, I was just like trying to stand in between the tight end and Julio Just whatever one he threw would be able to get there make a plan a ball And at that point of the game, it's pretty much I'm just run the ball and hopefully get no field ball really run the ball Throw some bullshit. Yeah, that's that's really just a goal Just take as much time as possible. Get a feel go make a possession game. You're gonna struggle on it often Don't give me anything Yeah, sure, but it was definitely bad one the game because of defense But uh, I said man, I really just bust your balls because you can be better You know, and I am the ultimate sip sit at home and tell you guys what you do wrong And you don't do too much wrong on the man field Well, you could definitely be better at the uh, you know to learn in about yourself Learn about life and learn about, you know Being people in that and not worry about down anymore because I don't worry about down anymore Honor because we all look at the shit. We all look at the polls. We all look at what everybody says, but You know, if you use it for fuel, that's one thing But to try to please all these people, you know, you'll never get it done. There's still tons of people that I always hate you Mm-hmm All right, but I appreciate you. All right. You had a great year. How much money did you win this year? Oh, like 40,000 40 thousand dollars. Okay. Did you win money last year? Yeah, 15 15. So you had 55 Yeah, 57 to say That's not bad. Especially if it's not bad. I'll tell you what I wish I won my money when I was 17 I am people ask me what I do with my man money. I said I live like it cost money to live When you're my age, you know, so I wish I had your age, you know, so you'll definitely have the rest of your life But I appreciate you coming on man. I'll I will put the links all the description make sure people follow you and everything man. Good run. Congratulations. All right. Thank you That was the young spoto god Appreciate him joining the podcast man. That was definitely different man uh But able to talk to the champ able to talk to spoto Uh, I don't know when I'm able to talk to skimbo. You know, we'll see I think he probably went on an island or something But once he gets over Once skimbo get over lost Is he gonna be able to look back and and laugh about this and everything and it's definitely gonna be a good uh a good time, you know but uh This was near podcast. This was episode 28. This has been 28 straight weeks of podcast It's been very easy with these tournaments games to talk about players to talk about It's definitely um It's definitely been easy and been fun to watch mad 19 ended on a great note. I think that tournament was great I'm glad all you guys watched. I don't know what they did to get the stream numbers up that high I hope they view by the something or embedded the stream. It was around 100k I don't know if we hit the triple digits in thousands But it was probably the best man tournament so far as far as viewership and it was real successful. It definitely was a definitely was um A successful tournament to such a long year and a rough year for mad and i'm glad it ended on such a good note We have a lot of weeks to to get going here in the off season The needed podcast is going to keep on pushing through the off season So if you have any ideas of what we can talk about, I know I have I myself have tons of ideas and the show will not stop in the off season It will not cease. We will have round table discussions about format about mcs about what we want in the game Whoever you guys wanted me to get on the podcast as far as big names as far as people that are important and mad Definitely put that on the comment list, man. If you guys have any questions Regarding any of these shows or any topics, please put that in the comments man, I appreciate all the support you guys come through But I will definitely try to come through with a uh a round table of the biggest mad names So if you can talk about not only the format but what you want man 20 Next week, I'm probably going to talk about a little bit people started this on twitter But we're going to talk about The madden awards for mad 19. Who's the best player the best offensive player best defensive player the best game How about the best play from the mad 19 mcs? Those are going to be pretty much my topics next week. That's what we're talking about unless something crazy happens Unless something crazy happens. I gotta talk about it's pretty much want to be about the um The awards for the mad 19 season. That's what I want to get into that's what I want to continue to talk about I'm definitely going to form some type of round table to talk about the big discussions probably get four or five people on there It's going to be a big deal But this was needed pack as episode 28 if you're on sound cloud Make sure you check it out on youtube to see the players we broke down if you're on youtube Please hit that like button comment on what you want to hear on the off season of madden Definitely going to be a big deal. I appreciate all you guys coming through. This was 28 28 weeks episode 29 next week