 My name is Respa Masharia. I'm the Managing Director of Exotic Vacations. It's a tourism travel company and I am a finance graduate. I've worked in one of our local banks here in Kenya. For the last 13 years, I grew up to the middle-level manager. After 13 years, I decided to quit and now follow my passion. My passion was in travelling. I've travelled since I was young. I credit this to my mother. She was the one who used to take us out having the Sunday lunches, maybe the vacations over the holidays. So from there, that is when my passion grew in travel. And from travelling, you were able to experience a lot of different things, different ideas, different cultures. So after my long tenure in banking, I decided to follow my passion. And that's where I am today. And you mentioned you've been to Dubai, which is like one of the biggest holiday destinations as well. Thailand. Briefly tell us what were the memories. How did you get to travel to Dubai and Thailand as well? For Dubai, that was my first travel destination internationally. And it was a great experience. That is seeing the skyscrapers in Dubai. That is the Boj Khalifa. There is the desert safaris. And you see like a place like Dubai keeps on growing every single day. So what you experienced last time is not what you're going to experience the next time you visit there. And that is the beauty about travel. Every single time you travel, there is something new to discover. So it was a great experience. We went for the Boj Khalifa. There is the water. The water on the Boj Khalifa. The desert safaris. The door cross. There was a lot to experience. Also the shopping bit of it. Like everybody is busy. It's on to something in Dubai. Some of the videos and photos you see is people are shopping at the desert. I don't know why the desert is the common place where people go there a lot. Do you get anything that makes people to go to the desert especially with that huge amount of sand? Yes. Driving through the four wheels. It was just an amazing experience. It was an adrenaline rush thing. Here maybe in Kenya we have in the north eastern bit of it. But I think with those machines, the vehicles having to race through the sand dunes it was a great experience. I think that's why people go to the desert safaris. And I see now why you are a best fit for your business. Exotic vacations. Now let's come back to it. You mentioned it officially started in 2021. Correct. But you have registered it this year. Yes. Actually from 2021 that's when the pandemic was purely subsiding and things were a little bit picking up in the economy of our country especially right here in Nairobi. So how did that experience impact you? Were you well financially? Where did you get the starting capital? Had you served enough maybe from the job? You said you worked at a bank for over 13 years in that sector. Had you served enough? Did you receive financial support? Did you get a loan? Like starting capital, that's what I mean. I can say for those in travel you don't have to start huge. You don't have to start with the magnitude of money or a lot of money. For me I would say I had a few coins here and there but what drive me was the passion. Yes, what drive me was the passion to travel because I love travelling and what was holding me back then I had an H-5 job so I wouldn't concentrate much on it but now that is in 2021 so I'll do it after work hours and I would feel that I'm not giving it my all. So this year after now I quit sorry in 2022 that is now when I started to do it and gave my 100% in it but for the capital I'd say just from a few savings from my work but again I still insist it's not just about the amount of money it's what drives you, it's what is driving you, yes. Did you also receive support maybe from your family? Correct. If you got but there's people who are solo but you're lucky to also receive family support as well. As I've said my passion was driven by my mum as when I was young she was the one who used to take us out so when I told her that I'm quitting and starting the travel company she was there to hold my hand in fact she gave me a lot of referrals from her friends because she also loves travelling you know when you start travelling I think it just gets into you and all through up until today she still travels she has friends that travel so from her I got the support I also have my family that is my nuclear family I have my husband and all so they've been supportive and I can say I'm glad so far I've received a lot of support from them. Yeah amazing. Which is like one of the greatest ingredients of actually staying afloat in business because that's business. Yeah true. Your sector is really lucrative there's a lot of strides that it contributes to the economy I'm also looking at it from a point of when you're starting sometimes you're not sure if you're going to get clients or how did you get your first client and how did they interact did they approach you did you approach them you mentioned you're also massive on social media Is it maybe like one of the biggest channels that you're using to do outreach in terms of client base? In fact social media is our major channel that we're using for marketing though for my first client it was by word of mouth just the way you go telling out your friends your family that now I'm not into banking anymore I have started a company it was a travel company so if you hear somebody if you want to travel I'm here to go to person and that is how I got my first client thanks to one of my friends who had the word and she was able to spread it to someone else and from that client I got so many other referrals because of the way you treat the clients they're the ones who bring back business to you or they refer you to other people Right. and that business is very common in Nairobi and then also foreigners people who come into the country in and out where they're looking for places to spend and have a good time or also safety safety is among also the co-ingredients of that business so for your clients exactly with your company if somebody is watching right now and they want to work with you maybe they want to have a staycation because it's mainly vacations exotic vacations meaning exotic places Do you mind just letting them know that this is what I offer as exotic vacations and just in case you're looking for me here's where you can find me and these are the products that you'll enjoy just in case you trust me to offer you services Thank you We offer as exotic vacations we offer inbound and outbound destination that is for local and international destinations for that we have beach destinations that is the south coast the north coast Mombasa Malindi Watamu we have bush safaris like currently there is the Mara there is the wildebeest migration that is ongoing starts in mid-June goes all the way to mid-October through to the end of October so currently this is the peak season of Mara but have they migrated for this year? it's usually very epic it is epic it is so the climaxing is around mid July mid of this month to way Augusta yes yes yes so it's spectacular it's a big tourist attraction also for international tourists as well and it's historical as well I've never experienced it one of the seven wonders one of the seven wonders so if somebody books you or works with you they'll definitely get a chance to experience that correct correct and the beauty of it all is that you see for Mara not only for Mara but for all other holiday destinations we have different budgets for each person so what we do at exotic vacations we work within and around your budget so you come tell us I want to go to the coast for the coast we have the 3 stars the 4 stars the 5 stars so according to your budget you tell us I'm looking at spending this much from there we are able to curate something that is specific to your needs yes so we offer those we offer the beach destinations we offer the bush safaris we have weekend getaways we have staycations for people who just want to go out and relax over the weekend then go back to their maybe jobs or businesses during the week yes we also have conference packages we have honeymoon packages so we are like an all-inclusive I want to stop shop for all your travel needs amazing you mentioned vacation staycation you will tell us the difference because somebody will say I'm in vacation in Kilimani really vacation in Kilimani I thought you should be in Diani but this past week I've seen a lot of people go to Diani actually I was checking out the insta stories like everybody is in Diani was there something happening in Diani this past weekend there was a music concert that was organized by one of so they were able to pull so many people in fact that last weekend it was very tricky having a room or even a hotel in Diani it was very full but and people like you made a lot of money from that business were you a part of it or are you also watching in the business business of it yes you should travel maybe physically yes you know a lot of people also think travelling is going to the US going to Santorini Santorini is also among one of the biggest destination Maldives it's not about just the international in Kenya I say currently we've not even scratched the service of the destinations that we have in Kenya if I give you a challenge Mr. Sakwa in Kenya just for a month you will not even get to 20% of the destinations that we have in Kenya it's just that like so many other people we don't know what we have in Kenya until you start travelling that is the beauty of travelling you are able to discover you discover and you learn so many things there's a friend who we had an argument way back and he was telling me that you can even go to a vacation in Bungoma you'll enjoy I'm like in Bungoma bro in Bungoma what do you mean people of this mindset but the only place you should travel to to enjoy doing the holidays is Mombasa Diani and the rest of the beaches beaches with E-C-S so you wonder somebody has a vacation in Kaka-Megam you know there are so many places like if I ask you Kajedo you'd go for a vacation imagine no Kajedo doesn't have a lake Kajedo doesn't have an ocean but there are so many places in Kajedo you'd go and tell people you're on vacation in Kajedo so it's just all about travelling and you learn and discover so many new places and still on that note do you feel like maybe the marketing of some of our attractive sites has not been given much weight when it comes to advertising even in that industry as well also maybe the government is not doing enough because you know who sees tourism that is CS Malonsa perhaps maybe she also needs to do something in terms of also supporting people like you who are in the tours and travels industry because like you said you can still go to a vacation in Kajedo and have fun and have almost a close to experience of someone who is in Diani even a better experience depending on the preferences not everybody wants to see the ocean of the beach you want to experience something new something different as you're saying about marketing the places the destinations that you have in Kenya I would not say it's only relied to the government I think we also have a part to play in the private sector because you are a private sector to market our country just don't show if you talk to someone like a foreigner they say we are known for running the marathons but we have so many other travel destinations in Kenya but why are we not marketing Kenya as a travel destination and it has so many places just like I've given you an example of Kajedo you can't tell me something from the top of your head but who's fault is it it's our fault as the private sector and also our government but I think it's a 50-50 tender job we need to do it both of us before you tell us who do a lot of vacations do you feel like it's possible to have a foreigner maybe I'm Zungu from the US and you are so much about Kenya in terms of the best blessings to enjoy doing the holy destination than somebody who was born here also even raised in that county but that's not happening in that location is it possible to have that or even it's true there's people who come from this location and are doing anything about where they come from it is amazingly I'd say most of my clientele are Kenyans in diaspora Kenyans in diaspora they'll call you and tell you I've seen ABCD place I've never experienced that place you see most of them maybe went to diaspora when they were young and they didn't get an opportunity or by then those places were not there the establishments were not there so most of them you hear them saying I've seen someone say and you see it's a foreigner I've seen someone travel to this place and it looks amazing would you plan a vacation for me to that place I want to go and experience it so it is very true but there are these foreign couples they travel all over the world they travel so they are the people who come and even make us discover that we have a destination in this country that is yet to be explored and South Africa is actually among the best that has invested a lot in the tourism and hospitality industry as well when you compare it to Kenya do you feel like we have maybe a thousand steps to reach to that level actually if you do a little research you realise most of the international stars of people from the foreign countries have visited a lot of South Africa Nigeria and maybe a lot of West African countries you think maybe there is something for us as Kenyans that we are not doing to reach to that international level you said the government also needs to play a role but also the private sector I think as I've told you we have so many travel destinations here in Kenya what we've not done is the marketing making that noise to make us know that in Kenya there is ABCD there are all these destinations that you can travel to so I think it's just a matter of marketing ourselves and doing it hard going it hard and I believe we can get to their levels because when you check as you've mentioned the South Africa we can't say that they have so many destinations compared to Kenya but just how they market it it is how they market it like the other day I was talking with a friend and I was asking them if you were to compare Rwanda in Kenya you'd say Rwanda has all these destinations and it's a very tiny country exactly every small country in Kigali it's every tiny town but the way they market themselves the way they talk about their country if we'd get that drive and that energy we would get there as Kenya because Kenya is very rich very rich in those destinations you also feel like maybe young people especially when it comes to learning institutions or schools they need to be told about embrace your culture learn about some of the good places where you come from can even talk about it whenever you're doing projects because most of us in fact some of us when you are in Somana we are part of the part we are part of the western part we are part of the western part it's like people abandon where they come from so by the time after you're 50 now when you are in Kumbukata and you feel like also that kind of sensitization even it should be taught included in the curriculum let's learn about the best sports for our country so that when you work or when you go abroad to other people as well that is very true in fact if it were to be added to the curriculum would make it better because now when you grow up when we were learning when we were young there are those physical features that we used to learn back then in the days the physical features you have the natural the natural whatever that we have like the great lakes you don't learn this lake Naibasha there is lake Emilementa it was incalkated in our curriculum and we were able to all learn I think by now as you say the spokespeople of our country yes, marketing our country just from the top of your head we have ABCD destination in our country so yeah it would be a great idea if that is put in our curriculum awesome let's get back to your business still exotic to us if someone maybe if you can take us to like that kashot manual of booking a vacation with you so if maybe I want to go to Diani how do I go about it do you have like an app on place or app store or presence on Facebook Instagram, Twitter so that I can reach out maybe with a number and then what is the conversation what is the first first conversation you have hey Respa I want to go to Diani what is the next question you're asking them on phone I'd ask you first the number of people that wish to travel the dates that you're looking at that is the month, the date and if you have any budget or you're open to having any experience so that is from there we are able to customize a package from you for you sorry so depending with what we give you now from there we are able to engage you tell us maybe I'm looking at a budget of these I'm looking at in Diani I want to go maybe for the excashions I want to the dolphin watching and all that so from just a normal conversation we are able to have a customized package for you and from there we do the bookings for you then you're able to tell us do you need us to provide transport do you want us to provide the hotel transfers maybe moving from Nairobi to Diani what means of transport do you prefer do you prefer SGR do you prefer road so it's depending with what the client tells us then from there we book and we customize the package until you satisfied and content with what we have given you then we do the bookings roughly how much would that be for example you mentioned story of light meaning for example somebody is coming from Nakuro Apitian Nairobi Doa Ndeva JKI so how much would that roughly be in terms of the amount from Nakuro from Nax to Nairobi and then Wilson or JKI to Mambaso Diani whatever from Nakuro okay if you are offering are we offering transport from Nakuro or Nairobi maybe we can omit the transport maybe we can spend from Nakuro to Nairobi from there you can now do the thing to the holiday for Diani we have that is for SGR package we have from as low as 7,500 7,500 that is for two days and one night two days one night and that's it food guaranteed food accommodation food and now the transport the SGR the transfers that is two and fro one way that is two and fro two and fro you guys 7,500 that's a good amount and that's why I was telling you we work with every client budget so people don't need to say that travel is just left for the higher everybody can travel everybody can travel correct what about flight now for flight that one will start from around 13,000 because when you look at may I allow to mention the flights anyways there are national carriers for example Kenya Aeos which is the national carrier they say it's one of the most expensive actually KQ I don't know from your experience it's a private sector from KQ Jamba Jet there's this other one in Etwa it's a file link of Laisaks which is the most affordable one for you also because they also charge you something if you work with them depending on the destination like for the south coast Jamba Jet is the most preferred one Jamba Jet is the most preferred yes this is the safari link so 13,000 pure two and fro that is Papasan sharing meaning that you are sharing with someone else because when you travel be yourself a single travel that is what we call them single sometimes a bit expensive because for the room and everything but when you two of you you get a double room which is very cheap for both of you so are you aware that maybe when you figure at the destination you will find a muzungu or somebody from another place you guys will know each other prior no, at your time of booking that is where I have asked how many people are you traveling with so that you can be able to travel more than one person than alone because actually I have had a friend who spent almost 50,000 amendana flights amendana kurudi yours is only one person but you are only spending 13,000 via your agency now that is affordable because from the agency you have relations with the hotels you have networked with the flight the SGR people so you are able to get a good rate for your clients you are able to get negotiated rates for your clients in Nairobi here actually Kilimani is like on top of the list where people go to for stay cash and you've mentioned Airbnb's behind before we come of air that is like the latest trend in that space where a lot of people are going for Airbnb's but then those also complain it could be last year when somebody was saying what were cameras buffo bathrooms bedrooms what's happening in that space because I don't know if somebody got exposed they did something and the video went viral and it just so happened that it's the management of that hotel that posted what was happening please if you can tell us what could be possibly booming because the Airbnb's are the latest thing now maybe there are other places that are as dope as Kilimani you can also talk about that Kilimani is one of the highest places with the highest bookings in terms of Airbnb's and yes it's a booming business and there are other places just like I mentioned when you are off air this is Kilileshwa so they come ranking in that way Kilileshwa and Westlands and in terms of the camera that is privacy that is privacy because why do we need a camera in the bathroom but Kenyans are coming so because these are houses that you are giving leeway to you use the house before the weekend and you see you go with other intentions like you are not there just to nice time or good time you destroy somebody's property especially these young campers yes you know the young campers people they are all energetic exactly you know we are going to measure so that is a cost to the owner of the Airbnb so that is where you find that most of them they put cameras to just have surveillance exactly but also I think there is limit to the surveillance bit of it so like in the bathrooms and private spaces I don't think that would need cameras in such places just for someone to feel you know you don't want to go do your business and you think you are looking up maybe someone is looking at me so I think there is just limitation to it but the cunning bit of it like you know last year there was also another episode that someone just go and hire Airbnb and they don't know what is going on then you go that is not fair at all because within a day 13 kg is done because you've done all your serious there it's really not fair for the business for that business as well would you say that's like also one of the main challenges you face in that sector somebody is coming as a client they are paying the money but they are living you with that loss a huge loss that you remain to deal with in the money they have paid is not even enough to incur that cost exactly like say in just a kawahida you see in a day maybe you'd spend like say 2500 to arrange a 4000 but you come use the whole gas the measures you the glasses the cups so by the time you are leaving you've left me the loss of around 10 to 15 thousand so you see that is why you find that so many people are even going for the cameras because you want to see what this person did and you are able to hold them accountable but do you also feel in as much as yes you are hoping for the best but also preparing for the worst do you also feel like it's appropriate to inform this client that you know what kuna kakamera tu mei kanyu mei ua light kuna kakamera pukuyu shimuia bathtab yes in case you do something but I don't think somebody would be comfortable to sit because when I checked that conversation it was actually one of the 5 star hotels where they have a camera the lamp here the bedside yes in the bathroom even in the toiletia mans they have a camera so it's recording everything from when you shower to when you change it so I was like wow wow these people are just watching you if you want to do anything private we see but maybe it's appropriate to just let the client know but we have surveillance and you are being watched 24-7 what do you think about that my opinion I would say yes it's good to inform tell someone first to give them the terms and conditions the rules that you give someone before you get to the house if you break ABCD these are the consequences and all that but also it's also good to inform someone you tell someone that they are being watched of course they'll be cautious they'll take care of your staff and everything but again these limiters I was saying you just can't go and put a camera in the washroom as you're saying when you're doing about your business you know somebody who is watching I think it's just limit to the surveillance bit of it that is the invasion of privacy do you feel like maybe it's happening in a lot of 5-star hotels we don't want to mention I would say a lot I think a lot is huge a few of them but it's not a lot because there are those that deal with trust in this business all that people work with is trust and credibility if you're known that you offer good service why would someone just come to your hotel and destroy and cause damages yes there are those accidents that happen maybe you'd be using a glass and it slips in faults and that is just one out of maybe 10 or 20 people just as we said you plan but you prepare for the worst but I think for the hotels maybe that is something that is in the air because that is a kind of private thing but for hotels and restaurants I think they've shied away from the cameras and all that because of course if people know that hotel these cameras they'll go to the competition also which are some of the best places to do vacations also staycation slash in Nairobi so far so good also with the airbnb you can incorporate the airbnb side as well so for airbnb that is Kili Mani Kili Mani here ranks the top at top yes Kili Mani is for airbnb but for Nairobi Nairobi National Park depends on what you're looking for if you want a safari you can go to Nairobi National Park if you want maybe a staycation there are very big hotels here I don't want to mention names but there are so many hotels here many in Nairobi CBD there are in Westlands so yes in Nairobi we have destinations too you mentioned Nairobi National Park was it giraffe center is it called giraffe center it recently trended on twitter I think it was like 2 months ago the people are complaining that if you call giraffe center speaking with local English they'll be like we don't understand what you're talking about I don't know somebody made a Mima Kasimate you call them with my Uganda accent or can refer to a giraffe so it's also one of the best places so far I've never been there though at giraffe center Mr Sakwa you need to talk to us I need to take you to places you know where I'm going you need to take me you can be Nairobi and you've not been to the Nairobi National Park to be honest I swear to God I've seen a lot of my friends I'm a post son I think it's dope especially what you feel giraffe mana you guys are bullying I can't wait and even the packets 5 people will go and watch them early in the morning before 6 they are all out there you are able to see them just here at the backyard and also the sunshine the sunset in Nairobi especially if you are on top of the sunrise and sunset is really dope correct correct correct so in every place in each part of the country that you are in there is a place you can go to travel just like you were saying as we started this interview in Bungoma you'll find places that you can go have a vacation can't do it I've been to Bungoma many times exactly exactly so in each part of this country in each county there is a place to go to so all you need to know is discover it and know it now for you as well in terms of client client feedback what are the comments you are getting from people is it good feedback because feedback is like also a big factor when it comes to client outreach servicing and what not what do people tell you after they've experienced you know a vacation or staycation with you those those stay callable hey kumbukibuana but thanks if you used our services and also for example if a client anakpeha feedback and you know when you offer dope services but I feel like I didn't get the value for my money so dealing with such feedback there are those that are naturally combative actually when you're meeting different people kuna mtua kuna serazake kuna mgine you know amazua kugumba nishi kuna mgina na kuprojectia anger issues so how do you deal with clients who have different mindsets experiences for us what we do we work the chani with you from the moment you start booking with us as I was saying we start we curate we customise a package for you depending with the experience that you want so from the word go from the starts that is where we start with you the day of travel we do a follow up we call you like maybe you're using the sgr this the early train that goes from that starts from 7 we call you are you at the sgr station how is it did you get there on time you tell us like the whole journey have you gotten to maria kani sgr station our person there to come and pick you to transfer you to your hotel how is the experience were they on time did they take you like you know the whole thing we able to get to you to walk with you through the whole experience when you get to the hotel you had booked in the hotels we have different kind of rooms maybe you had booked a CV hotel room sorry you had booked a pool view room were you given that room that you had said is the room ok is it clean is it according to your specification so we walk with you through so we get instant feedback at you know real time so if it's something maybe it's with a hotel it's something that you can talk to them something they can improve on so we are able to get real time feedback from the client so and from there we are able to work on it so I'd say yes we've gotten the good the good of course outweighs the bad who is Kusambodian Bilihapo maybe it's from our end so we strive to work and improve on it maybe it's beyond our control it's a hotel thing maybe it's a natural calamity that has occurred that was we had not seen and all predicted that it would happen but we try our very best and also be able to manage the tempas of every person what if an accident happens for example your Airbnb for instance and then for movies like do you tap him in gonga so let's imagine such a thing is happening I'm a trip I'm a bed lighting do you like cater for injury or accidents as well and your insurance and your cost okay we'd say that like that is the unforeseen that I'd said so for such and for I think we deal with them as they come so like for example something like that falls someone you know trips and falls you break or something from that we can maybe handle with the Airbnb person is it something that was faulty come and let it go was it faulty you see if it was faulty at that point that means is the person who owns the Airbnb to take care of that cost so yeah it depends with the situation it is and I would handle it case on case basis I think also season like timing is also part of your manually in terms of holiday destinations especially for those that travel maybe to Diani and the rest which are the best seasons to go for let's say holidays or chill and relax any time holiday it's independent with the client with the person themselves but like for the natural ones like now I'd mentioned the wildebeest migration the best time is now that is from mid-June to end of August that is when you'll see the wildebeest migration the spectacular phenomenon but for the rest the ocean is always there but also depending with the weather like right now it was a bit cold at least today it's bright is it just winter in Nairobi like you mentioned there was a lot of activities in Diani and I was just saying the weather is different but I think the weather patterns have changed like you see right now for the last 2-3 days in Nairobi it's been extremely hot during the day yes so I'd say the best time to travel to Diani the coast that is during the summer season starting November, Mushapo December, August all the way this January so when it's not cold for you to enjoy and say yes because Mombasa or Diani it's not for the hot weather families that go for vacations do you also have that package like to say my mother father son daughter do you offer that yes we do offer we give the family vacations but the first questions among the first questions that we ask you is how many people are traveling with you so if it's a family we give you a family package because for many hotels you'll find that they have family rooms instead of giving the doubles or the singles that they offer so you find the family rooms have better packages so yes we offer those to families I have like 3 questions and then we exit before you give context so you can reach out also what are some of the changes that perhaps you need to be made in that sector so that it also incorporates because it's private again as public so that the government can come in and support also from an individual perspective maybe what do you think need to be adjusted from the experience you had being in that space I'd say the very most important in the keeping is vigorous marketing we need to make ourselves known both locally and internationally back then in the days there were some programs even our local stations where I would see the programs that focus mainly on Kenya and the destinations I don't know what happened to them these days they are rare yes they are there but they are not as huge as they were back in the day so from there you were able to learn that in Kenya not only Mombasa, Diyani the Great Lakes there are other places they can also go to so vigorous marketing is needed to make us the Kenyans know about the different destinations that you can travel to and also to make our country known as one of the travel destinations in years in the world right great what do you enjoy most about this whole business that you do the feedback they give they are like wow I didn't know I would experience such I didn't know that this existed I didn't know we had this in our country so getting positive and great experience for our clients that is what makes me happy and how do you brace yourself for tough times of course yours is a post pandemic business so you are a safe baby since you are now in operation for 2 years so how do you brace yourself for tough times I am a finance person so when you are ripping big you put for the unforeseen for tomorrow so you are able to balance yourself but the thing is you must give you are all and be consistent so for that season you are able to plan ahead and when you are getting it this season you plan for tomorrow maybe any future adjustments that you are going to do to your business to expand its functionality also its outreach you mentioned you are big on social media maybe you are going to do a lot of outreach collaborations partnerships and what not on social media and we are also attending most of the travel expos there are so many travel expos especially in our country so from there you are able to go network with other players in the industry you are able to market yourself you are able to brand your company bring awareness about it so yeah in terms of marketing myself that is what we are planning and also opening in our country I am looking at the next office to be based in Mombasa which is also one of our biggest travel destinations for our clients lastly for somebody who has been watching and they have been placed with this conversation and they want to book a vacation this Friday must take cash and they want to reach out to you where can they find you, are you on digital social media do you have a number, do you have an email please talk to them if the advantage of them booking that staycation or vacation with you this is your camera okay thank you if you want to reach us we had exotic vacations on all socials that is instagram facebook and we also on tiktok exotic vacations and our number is 0791 601 555 that is 0791 601 555 our email address is info at exotic vacations .co.ka so for there you are going to find us, give us what you want to where you want to travel to the number of people you want to travel with and your preferred destinations and from there we are able to give you our best package and we work around your budgets and experience thank you there are usually charges that do a lot of that especially towards the end of the year do you also offer a group like a half school one to do something we offer that for groups we also have groups packages group packages the charges as you mentioned they have been going to Egypt Israel we offer that for school trips those who want to go for the kids we also offer that we have all those packages and thank you so much now you know if you have been having a boring day you know who to call and thank you so much Rispa for coming through and sharing your business insights and the whole experience thank you for having me we have been speaking to Rispa Mashare she is the managing director of exotic vacations and some of the good things that are in the tourist and the travel industry as well and on this note is where we are going to take a very short break on that hashtag which is hashtag why in the morning why to for channel underscore on the ground with very far with the blue check mark mines is a brand sokuwan on we take a break we come back with much more please don't share in the channel