 I don't mind I'm actually I'm from Sydney so I'm actually traveling at the moment and just before I left I actually had my wisdom teeth out and it was an issue that I was asking my orthodontist and my dentist like is this something that I have to do is it dietary I've seen a bit of Western price stuff and it was I was very curious is and didn't make any logical sense that well what did the people do hundreds thousands of years ago but now we've got this issue so just I didn't feel right but I had them out because that's what everyone does and you do that are you saying that we've possibly with exercises that could have I might not have had to have that happen but I'm saying that for certainty if you'd had a tough diet and you didn't have a change in your tongue and jaw posture from birth yes that wouldn't happen at all whether you could have changed it when you were in your late teens early 20s well I don't know I've struggled to change people in those periods people have come to me and I've treated a few of them some I've got some good results and but it depends on their dedication as you could imagine you know I'm not treating these individuals they're doing it themselves you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink and with the things like braces and losing teeth could you do this stuff after to to still help it help problems with the face and still do after or even you mean so could I help people who have had braces and teeth extracted already yeah I limited limited well the best advice is keep your lips closed put your tongue the roof your mouth and obviously had teeth taken out yeah I just had braces like about six months ago I just got them off yeah yeah I'm not a big fan of braces I mean that levels are the older you are the better with this yeah so I've got a little brother who's just about he just had a tooth out and he's just about to get him so I'm like so like stop I mean I don't agree with that I mean but sometimes you've got to be realistic though yeah my treatment window is seven to nine years old you know I'm assuming your brother's going to be considerably older than that he's 11 so yeah you know I don't really like treating people I get lots of people who come to see me because they're facing with extractions and they say please can you do something and I go well you know I can't wind the clock back I've got to if I'm going to affect growth I need growth yes we can all change at a later age but it's not growth it's not nearly as easy growth go with the growth should we get one over here you said teeth together in general does that mean to have a clenched jaw because I was always because you know very much not to have a clenched jaw and that's why as I was saying teeth together I came in with that extra caveat of saying warning people who have or just asking people who tend to clench and saying to them what you need to do is you set up this in fact we should all set up this balance your tongue should be pushing up on the roof of your mouth as your teeth bite together just in the same way as I'm not about to fall over because my quads and my glutes are out of balance they're an antagonistic pairing that without my thought a balancing me however when I first took my first few steps I was pretty tricky I wasn't very good with that I would have staggered around now I do it easily but when I first took my first steps my mouth was open because I had an allergy so my tongue didn't program with my jaw biting muscles to become an antagonistic pair you have to try to program that so that your teeth are just very likely to gather with your jaw and your tongue balancing each other and they will then take over but it's a very difficult thing to get it in your head you know if I could plug you in like they do in matrix and upload a good tongue function pattern I think I could get you all to grow fantastically and when you were making reference to Michael Cain you mentioned that he looks better as he's got older but I think his facial dimension has changed for the positive and you mentioned confidence being a factor how particularly can confidence affect your facial structure as you you're going out my subject okay yeah I'm not gonna comment on what I don't know okay so the guy here was waiting okay so if you passed that chicken window seven to nine if you want it you know 20s 30s whatever is it possible to reverse the effects of the long face or is it rather getting those proper posture habits it's more stopping it getting longer well this is a very interesting question because I think that the top jaw the maxilla acts as a little bit of a keystone if you look at any other joint in my body I've got quite a wide range of movement so if someone tells me to stand up straight I physically can move every bone in my body till it's in the correct position but you can't move your maxilla and your maxilla set back and down if you can't move your maxilla is then squashed in a limited space between your now upright head and your maxilla and that doesn't feel comfortable well where creatures are comfort so pretty soon the emphasis in your brain is to go back into a bad posture because your breathing is more important and a comfortable body yes so you force it out of the way now I will be looking to treat adults and trying to affect adults is the limiting of how much because when I do this treatment on kids I have it's not I can't do part treatment I have to go the whole hog now for adults I can't go the whole hog because I couldn't do that strange position that I put the kids into and recover from the position that I put the kids into and recover it I'd mess them up so I have to look at a more limited version of what I can do so I will be looking at adults but in the meantime the most simple thing is lips together teeth together tongue in the roof your mouth the problem often is there's not enough space in your top jaw to fit your tongue which would come back to your question what could you do now well if there's a restricted space not only is restricted space your face is longer so the top jaws further down towards where the tongue is then well it's very hard to maintain a posture that's really uncomfortable and it's like pushing this proverbial stone up a hill if you get it over the top you're away if you stuck halfway up some point it's going to slip south but like I say work on it you know you can work on it probably no one tells you to stand up straight shut your mouth just not it seems to be one of the old things that were forgotten it's almost like you're not allowed to say it because it's telling people what to do anyway guys you've been a great audience thank you very much indeed I'm one final question there sorry to interject you may have covered it I may have missed it if I did apologize gum chewing five second opinion on it chewing gum fantastic yeah I think you should spend hours a day chewing gum in fact my problem with gum is it's too soft we've been asking gum manufacturers to come up with gum literally we have spent thousands of hours on this trying to get gum manufacturers to come up with tough gum they say you want we'll make you a batch you'll have to pay for it and I think batches are a minimum of five tons which is over lorry load and it's just it's not something we can look to do but and they tell us everyone wants off to chewing gum why would we make harder chewing gum well everyone's heading south what do you think's going on everyone's going to a poor diet everyone's getting crooked at teeth and it's happening year by year just look your parents didn't need so much to straightening your grandparents hardly needed any to straightening it's happening fast it's changing quickly and all the associated things that are happening with them the sleep apnea has come out of nowhere it's going to be a big thing you'll hear it a lot within the next ten years and so chew gum yeah chew gum and smile so I don't know with investment oh I couldn't remember exactly but it's way too much with something like a hundred thousand pounds they wanted out of us do we commence in experiments and do this sort of thing and we were just no way okay guys you've been a fantastic audience thank you very much indeed I hope that was educational