 This is the Vienna International Centre, where the 58th session of the Commission on Narcotic Drugs is about to begin. This is the biggest drug policy gathering of the world. Governments gather here to discuss the most burning issues of international drug control. What are the main issues now at the CND? What are your impressions about the discussions here? Well, this 2015 Commission on Narcotic Drugs is not a particularly high-level political one. There are massive decisions being made. Most of the arguments are procedural. But the mood of the building is very important. We are seeing a significant move away from war on drugs rhetoric towards health rhetoric. And many countries saying they always had a health-based approach, but it's nice to hear that, even though they have changed their tune. Very good noises from the USA about not relying on arrest and incarceration. This is a good message to the rest of the world and many countries, particularly Latin American and European, very clearly establish now as promoting health and human rights-based approaches. So that's positive. A balanced approach to the world drug problem should also take into consideration the notion that drug addiction is a health problem and taking into account relevant human rights commitments. I think we should continue to be frustrated that the movement is too slow. Particularly something that's worrying me now is the rhetoric is becoming much more satisfying. But are there any actions behind that? Are countries changing what they do in their own countries? And are they taking initiatives for things to change at the UN level? The debate is shifting. The kind of language you hear the diplomats talking about is more open. It's more confronting. Some of the issues around the death penalty, for example, it's really good to see countries step up and tackle that head-on. It would be disappointing that if all we saw at CND was a change in language towards more progressive language, but that didn't translate to progress on the ground. This is your first time at the CND. What are your first impressions? Something's wrong here. It's in a way like the clock is clicking for different people differently. For those who talk about drugs and substances, differently than for those who use them. What's crucial is to really focus on human rights and human rights abuse, which is happening towards drug users, and to really talk about public health and talk more about people and what's happening to people and how much harm the drug policy is doing to the people, where often then substances themselves, then to talk just about drugs and how to reduce supply or demand.