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item now or later in the agenda we're happy to take it out and i can i can join councilman rogers if she has specific information if not i can give some basic information about it okay thank you i'll i'll take it then it's going to be so we're working with the office of community engagement here for the city of santa rosa and we've had a lot of behind the scenes work and support from some of our council members involved in this project but we're going to on october 8th at the veterans building here in santa rosa we're going to be holding a gun buyback program and it's a collaborative effort between the police department and community engagement and private donors that are contributing toward the the money that's going to be paid out and we're going to be having a staggered amount for handguns for and then it would be an elevated amount for assault rifles and even the highest amount for ghost guns these unserialized polymer guns that are on the streets and we're going to be it's going to be an important event to be able to get some of the illegal guns off the street and also this other guns that maybe someone doesn't have a need for anymore and or now they won't be accessible for young children to access them or to be stolen and burglary so we're we're going to be sending out some information on our social media platforms in the week to come but right now it's saturday october 8th at the veterans building from 10 a.m. till 2 p.m. that will be hosting it and we appreciate this getting the word out and I think it'll be a good day to get some guns off the streets of san rosa thank you chief and thank you to councilmember rogers for bringing that up do we need to do public comment on our announcements we need to go back to approval of minutes oh i haven't gone to approval of minutes yet that's item three is that okay we finish announcements prior to yes ma'am okay so um do we have any public comment on announcements okay i see no raise hands great well seeing none we'll move on to item three approval of june 15 minutes any amendments from councilmember schwadhelma rogers all right seeing no amendments will adopt as written and move on to public comment item four this is the time when any person may address matters not listed on the agenda but with we are within the subject matter of this jurisdiction the public may comment on agenda items when the item is called and each speaker is allowed three minutes chief lemming i see no raise hands and there's nobody present in the council chamber okay do we have any pre-recorded comment for there are no pre-recorded voicemail messages wonderful seeing none we will move on to new business and here we have chief cregan who will provide a brief update on current topics thank you very much share filming i'll keep it brief i want it just to give a quick update and we're actually going to be putting out something uh publicly on friday that we're working on a little video talking about some of the efforts we've made for violence reduction in our community over this year so we're comparing last year we saw a busy year in the city of santa rosa with over 471 shootings that were reported to the police department and six homicides that occurred throughout the city and so we've really dedicated some resources and one of the big steps was our city council last year approved the four police officer positions that were going to be dedicated to a special enforcement team and we were able to create that special enforcement team and it's making a real impact in our community so some of the things that were even though we certainly have had violence in our community this year and so we're still it's still a work in progress but our special enforcement team and really just all of our officers stepping up for some proactive enforcement are making some differences so we pulled the stats for the first six months of 2022 compared to the first six months of 2021 and what we've seen is some pretty dramatic increase in the firearms in our street so the stats that we have is that our firearm our arrests for those in possession of illegal firearms have gone up 55 percent in the first six months of this year compared to the first six months of last year we saw firearms seized in the streets of santa rosa go up 75 percent in the first six months of this year and then this is an alarming one the seizure of ghost guns are these illegal unserialized guns that are printed or bought on like online kits have gone up 179 percent the seizure of those firearms this year and out of our total firearms seized this year illegal firearms in the streets of santa rosa 47 percent of those firearms were ghost guns which just shows the high amount of those guns in the streets of santa rosa but also to me what it really demonstrates is the incredibly hard work of our staff of not just our special enforcement team but they're really leading the effort in this but also all of our officers who are out there making a difference but it also impacts our field evidence texts which are processing these our property evidence team who are now booking and securing all of this but then what i'm excited to see is not only are we seeing an impact with taking these guns off the streets but so far in the first six months of this year we've seen shootings reported to the police department decreased by 31 percent and and to me it's it's no coincidence that we're seeing some of those shootings going down because we're seeing more of a strategic effort to get some of these firearms off the street and also it comes with working with our community engagement with our violence prevention partnership for getting towards some of the root causes of the violence in our street we've been working closely with our violence prevention partnership with this crisis response team of trying to get them staff from the violence prevention partnership to assist us when shootings or other violent crimes occur to help those that need in the community and get towards some of the root causes of the violence so i'm just overall excited to see more of these illegal guns being taken off the streets of santa rosa and seeing a decrease in the shootings with that though we've had a busy year we just had our our eight homicide of the year this last just last week and so we still certainly are seeing violence on the streets of santa rosa so there's more work to be done but i'm excited to see that at least the needle is moving in the right direction toward reducing some of these shootings and getting some of the illegal guns off the street and it comes down just to the investment of our city and our city council about getting some of these dedicated resources out there to make a difference in our community so thank you very much thank you chief i was curious to know if you um you cited some really start startling and impressive statistics in terms of firearms seized i'm wondering if you have percentages of the increase in police hours spent doing this over the from the first six months of 2022 over the first six months of 2021 the only the only major difference is now having the creation of the special enforcement team so it's four officers and a sergeant so in 2021 we were just launching that team so like that team wasn't in existence so to me that's the biggest change of having dedicated resources because the reality is the patrol officers sometimes have a difficult time doing proactive work because there they'll be sometimes 20 to 30 to 40 calls pending throughout the city so they're just kind of going call to call and don't have the time the special enforcement team they're just doing proactive work and proactively going into some of the areas that have been impacted by violence in the community they're working with our crime analysts and identifying individuals who have been showing a pattern of behavior and doing proactive work of probation or parole searches and that's how they're able to have like the ability so i think that's been the biggest game changer is the set team but also it's been a little bit of us refocusing some of the priorities in the organization about how we can proactively be out there making a difference and honestly COVID has made a difference there was some things in 2021 where our staff were we're having direction to pull back about not making as much contacts because we had so many high COVID exposures at the police department and that was a real danger that we were facing and now we've had a time for our staff to be better equipped and vaccinated and it's less of an impact to our staff now COVID is than it was last year thank you it's really interesting do you store these statistics somewhere that the public can access yes we do and so this week we're going to do a we're doing a little video and we're going to highlight some of these statistics and i believe i'm filming it tomorrow we're hopeful to put out on friday or saturday but we also well i can find a way that we can get these posted online like we'll post them not only in our social media platforms but at the end of the year we definitely highlight these in our annual report that we post online too and we'll have the full year results yeah i think that'll be really helpful and i think you know comparing it against i mean last year was such an odd year for everybody for operationally and in the community i think posting the year over year change going a few years back will start to give the community a full picture of what an impact your work is having so thank you very much do any of my committee members have any questions it's like have a couple um chief if you could also just with those stats also give us some put them into context comparing to other jurisdictions because sometimes just hearing our city's experience without the context of what's happening in neighboring counties and cities um i think it would add some value to that um and then could you give us an update on the recruitment of civilian and sworn personnel because i know that has been a recent challenge you have shared with council absolutely so it continues to be a challenge but we're getting some work in the right direction so two exciting things that we worked on we're we're actually going to be launching in the next two weeks that we had hired an outside recruitment firm which specifically focuses on public safety it's called epic recruitment and we'd work with some different community leaders and examine some police departments around the state and the country here we're using this so they came in they brought in a whole professional crew and they filmed seven different videos that we're highlighting it's actually eight videos we have seven in english and we did one dedicated just in Spanish that's going to be out because some of our monolingual residents and it's highlighting the different assets of the police department it's highlighting for lateral officers across the state about how beautiful Sonoma County is and some of the resources that we have here in Sonoma County and here in Santa Rosa so we're going to be launching those videos by the end of the month and we actually just yesterday we're finalized we're actually going to have them as a movie trailer at the Roxy and the airport cinema so they're going to be playing there for the next three months is like one of the videos it's like a I believe a 55 second video that'll play as a movie trailer and kind of highlighting what it is and like how much of a need that we have in so many positions not only police officers but dispatchers records texts filled evidence texts and it's going to highlight of all the opportunities that we have here in this organization we also just this at the beginning of the month on august first launched a lateral recruitment incentive and it's going to be for lateral police officers and lateral dispatchers and for us we looked at the cost that it costs us $56,000 with wages benefits with the academy cost equipment to send a trainee through the six month police academy that we spend $56,000 as a city so we launched this that if you join as a lateral police officer with at least a year and a half experience under your belt or a dispatcher with a year and a half experience which is our two hardest positions to recruit that we'd have if you stay for three years with the city of Santa Rosa that you'd get a phased in $25,000 over three years for a lateral police officer coming here and we're using salary savings to do that of salary because we have so many unfilled positions here in the department and we also launched one for $15,000 for a lateral dispatcher over three years they'll get this phased in money so we believe in the long run it'll be a cost savings to the city of Santa Rosa but what we're excited about is getting candidates of both police officers and dispatchers who bring years of experience from these other agencies and our city benefits from their experience so those are two of the initiatives other than that it's just us getting more out into the community and letting them know the the multiple job openings that we have here as of today we have 19 sworn police officer vacancies two dispatcher vacancies two filled evidence our two sorry records tech positions a crime analyst and an analyst position so quite a few positions over 25 positions that are vacant here at the police department right now great thanks for that update and I like those strategies that you're going to start implementing or have implemented since august 1 thanks absolutely all right do we have any public comment i see no hands raised and we have no voicemail public comment okay great hopefully chief nobody else finds out about your strategies and starts taking our officers yeah i already did have some agencies who wanted my memo on the hiring center i told them i'll send it to them in a couple weeks nice let's start okay well looks like this next item 5.2 on sideshow ordinance is is yours yes absolutely so i'll i'll kick it off and we're going to talk today about and we really want to get input from our city leaders and from our community on our sideshow enforcement and it's been one of the most talked about topics that the community has brought to me and emails and phone calls and certainly our city council gets these emails so we came together as a police department early on of saying that we needed to do something with our sideshow enforcement so actually i stepped into the role as the interim chief of police on may 2nd and on may 5th let's think of the mile we've launched our first night of kind of like this new approach and it's evolved and we've learned along our way but the new approach is that we've learned is like when you allow the sideshows to like grow at these intersections they quickly become overwhelming events that you're seeing 75 to 100 vehicles show up at these intersections and sometimes three to 400 spectators that are cheering on these events and it's led the violence it's led to vehicle collisions and it's led to a lot of like fear in our community about not being able to leave their residences or businesses and it damages the roadways that causes environmental damage with the rubber and going down the storm drains so we launched a new initiative and i'm going to have a lieutenant janine cooker today and lieutenant janine cooker has just stepped into our role of our new traffic lieutenant so she manages our traffic team our downtown enforcement team and all special events and so lieutenant cooker is going to go through some of the steps that we've done and i'll close it out of the end so i'll turn it over to you janine great thank you um am i going to get the slides shared yes if we can there we go okay i can't really read that so i'm going to use the one on my end that's okay it's the same i think i can kind of read it i gotta put my glasses on here well again it's great to be in front of you all today as john said i'm janine cooker i'm a lieutenant now here in traffic in the traffic division i manage several other collaterals including our special enforcement team downtown enforcement our incident management team and major event so i'm very happy to be here and again happy to be presenting in front of you today what i'm going to talk about again um a very hot topic that we have going on in our city over the last few years our side shows so i'm going to talk about what a side show is and just kind of go over the nuts and bolts of the definition of what it is or what it means to have a side show occurring and what that looks like what strategies that we are currently incorporating in our city and around the county actually in order to shut these side shows down as soon as possible and then other strategies that we're working on in the future so i'll go ahead and start with the the slideshow here on on what the sideshow definition is so a sideshow is basically an informal exhibition of automotive stunts mainly spinning donuts that it's often held in vacant lots or public intersections mostly what we see currently are the public intersections common activities at side shows include again spinning donuts which are exhibitions of speed in combination with loss of tire traction as well as other reckless driving maneuvers and just witnessing these in person and on video they're extremely dangerous very high public safety issue often crowds of spectators are in close proximity of the reckless driving exhibitions which again makes them extremely dangerous next slide show our next slide please um a lot of times with the side shows come violent incidents including fights we see people carrying guns in their vehicles and they often will shoot them off in the air during side shows which occurs at a lot of these events not every single one of them but a good portion of them suspects and spectators involved in these events frequently flee the scene by running or basically just using their vehicles to flee the area and we end up sometimes getting into a high speed vehicle pursuits which are also a very dangerous part of side shows and just in general to the public side show exhibitions have impeded law enforcement ability not just ours but across the the state and our county our ability to intervene in an active incident it's very difficult to get in when you have generally up to we've seen up to 300 people we've seen a hundred people and circling these side shows to watch them and it's very difficult to use our vehicles or even just have just one team of officers which is usually about 12 officers try to intervene it's it's just too many people and it's not something that we can do safely next slide please some of the tactical challenges that we're running into with these the side show presents very similar to riotous behavior and i can recall back in 2020 when we really started seeing an uptick of these side shows that we had them during the 2020 riots they would as part of the riots and in and moving around these side shows would just kind of start up where they would start spinning donuts in certain intersections mainly in the downtown area in addition to riotous behavior participants are in vehicles which makes them basically they can use them as weapons and make them very mobile very quickly side show participants attempt to take over locations with an overwhelming amount of people and vehicles in order to impede law enforcement from intervening at the time participants are commonly armed with firearms and shoot them in the air as I mentioned earlier next slide please some of the enforcement strategies that we have incorporated so far our obvious traffic citations when we can we will get a vehicle leaving the area or as the vehicles are taking off sometimes officers are able to stop those vehicles and cite them for vehicle code violations we have an increase of patrol and enforcement campaigns right now obviously side shows are very serious we have a zero tolerance enforcement with these so we are using overtime operations and we're collaborating with outside agencies within our county so that across the board all sinoma county agencies benefit from our collaboration with each other so if the sinoma county sheriff's department or runner part dps have a side show pop up in their city we're going to also send officers to assist in that campaign and to try to intervene very quickly and mainly we're trying to shut these side shows down before they happen so we're trying to get those resources in place by using intelligence to detect upcoming events and then we start resource planning as soon as we have an inkling that there may be an event or side show coming to our area and we do that through just a lot of anonymous tips and phone calls looking at internet activity social media and things like that where these promoters are talking about an event that's going to occur in our area other enforcement strategies they're just training our staff on how to enforce specific traffic violation codes and then techniques and getting and looking for those violations on these types of vehicles a lot of times these vehicles are modified and then they have the bald tires and other issues going on with them so we're constantly looking for courses to bring to our area to train our staff and how to locate and find those vehicle code violations on these vehicles we're also using technology as a force multiplier we have a few drones in patrol and if we do have a side show that we believe is coming or starting up or people are even starting to gather we immediately will get a drone up and try and take a look and see what's going on we also use the drones to grab license plates if we can get the license plate numbers off of those vehicles for towing at another time next slide please um as i just mentioned towing so towing is becoming a really important factor in side show enforcement with these impounds it's a 30 day impound if we can at least identify the vehicle we don't necessarily have to identify the driver of the vehicle at the time we can actually capture it later our traffic unit tends to write warrants and so far in updating this number of 60 vehicles it's actually over 70 at this point with a side show that we just had a couple of weeks ago and that's not even including vehicles that CHP towed during all of the events that were moving around the city so they also had have their own numbers but officers will attempt to identify license plate numbers and follow up in the days following side shows to tow with a court order so that's the warrant that our traffic division works on after a side show occurs next slide please so moving into other strategies that we've worked with and collaborating with other city departments we've worked with traffic engineering and putting those those bots dots down in certain areas of town there's over 20 intersections that have had the bot dots placed to help prevent side shows although what we're finding is it's it's a short-term deterrent and it doesn't really it's been effective but we need more they've actually recently at sabastical and west put in other barriers and curves that will help prevent side shows in that particular intersection so we're kind of trying to test the waters and just see what's going to work and what doesn't so actually over 30 intersections have been impacted in the city by side shows again they do this way they don't prevent and they're relatively inexpensive compared to other controls we've actually looked into the roundabouts and apparently they're extremely expensive to try to install those and other parts of the city or any parts of the city um we're working sorry next slide please we're working on um education um enforcement and engineering we call them the three E's so in part ed educating the community we've had multiple campaigns and strategies with our public information officer about the dangers of side shows and educating the public through social media on that we're working with our office of community engagement who had actually four listening sessions specific to side shows they had a really incredible response about them because the public is so concerned about side shows in our city and in their neighborhoods obviously very dangerous so they in the summer of 2021 they did two virtual sessions and two in-person sessions listening sessions for specific to side shows and community concern um we're also working with local car clubs to denounce side show activities um previously chief Navarro and I and Magali Teyes and her her team of community engagement folks went out to the Roseland area and actually met with other car club um team members that are not really they're not part of the side shows and they actually don't want side shows in their area because they make them look bad because they have the really nice cars that they like to display so they're not out there spending donuts with them but really to kind of encourage or dissuade them from having these side shows um out in the Roseland area specific um a car club that we met with we're working with local businesses to install deterrents and parking lots we a couple of years ago we had really a lot of issues in the Best Buy parking lot or by Costco and what they did was they put the little parking barriers and speed bumps in their parking lot which was a tremendous help and I don't think that we've had anything in that parking lot in quite since they did that because it just basically makes it impossible for them to have side shows in those areas um we're also the beat lieutenants are working on assigned projects when side shows impact their areas I know recently lieutenant Ludkey took over the Roseland area and he's working with some of the the vendors outside that are selling um later at night which draws crowds and they're also selling uh they were selling beer bottles so at some of these incidents um with the side shows that have popped up in specifically in the Roseland area our officers have taken rocks and bottles and um have been had things thrown at them trying to break up these side shows so obviously they're not just dangerous for the public they're also dangerous for officers as well next slide please um other strategies that are um that we're working on and are are coming up um california assembly bill three is coming up in legislation it would suspend licenses of drivers participating in a side show but unfortunately that does not take effect until 2025 so that really doesn't do anything for us in the present uh day and that's obviously a couple years away um right now san rosa police department is drafting side show spectator um and we are also working on the promoter part of an ordinance scheduled to go before city council on october 11th of this year um we are still we still currently just have the draft of that ordinance and um you know we're trying to fine tune that so that it also includes if you're um proven to be a promoter of side shows where there the the folks that are out on social media basically saying hey we're going to have a side show and basically coordinating the event we're going to try to affect those folks as well with these misdemeanor charges uh next slide please so in specifically speaking about these uh side show spectator ordinance um state law provides inadequate tools to address the problem so several cities uh have enacted these side show ordinances this includes san jose police department fairfield and vallejo just to name a few um they're they're the creation of what we've currently are calling the reckless driving exhibition ordinance which is similar to san jose's ordinance and adapted by vallejo and fairfield police departments and cities um currently our code ten dash two six point zero three zero uh prohibit spectators at street races and reckless driving exhibitions um that um ordinance basically shows that it's an unlawful for a person to be knowingly a spectator within 200 feet out of side show or preparations for a side show and it's unlawful to encourage or promote side shows this includes social media postings uh and the violation is punishable with a fine of up to $1,000 or six months in jail next slide please and i will turn this over to chief cregan thank you lieutenant cooker thank you um sorry one moment chief um i got a notification from our um tech team saying that some of us are talking a little fast so i just want to remind everyone that we're translating into to moderate the frequency of your speech sorry to interrupt thank you go apologies thank you i've been uh told many times by court reporters so i talk way too fast so i'll try to go slower today um for the uh strategies and and thank you for lieutenant cooker and her team they've really put a lot of work and uh lieutenant uh josh ludkey lieutenant uh dav becker and captain ryan corporate have really helped like over the last couple months help put together some of our side show protocols and really have helped kind of push this uh closer to the finish line so we're excited to be able to not only with the ordinance but then also one of the biggest things i think that we've done of making a difference is better collaborating with our allied agencies here in sonoma county and so we had for too long said hey we don't have enough resources here in santa rosa to act on it so what we've done is like uses a force multiplier is working with all of our other allied agencies across the county and this is from the highway patrol the sheriff's department uh pedaluma police department roner park dps and our smaller agencies throughout the county as well that have all come to contribute and so we have now this protocol and i presented it to the sonoma county law enforcement chiefs association uh at the beginning of august of talking about of actually having a formal protocol which we've never had for side shows here in sonoma county we got a lot of important feedback and i'm making some minor tweaks to it and we're going to present the final one the first week of september and hopefully approve it and sign off on it at that night but the basics of it are of having more of an organized plan of setting up a incident commander to manage these events a tactical commander to be able to handle some of the threats toward the officers and to our community members that are posed during these things but overall of just making a countywide agreement that we're all going to contribute staff when these incidents break out and as lieutenant cooker said it doesn't matter where there are in the county whether they're out at the river or whether roner park or whether in downtown santa rosa that will all send resources together will work as a coordinated trained force to be able to stop this behavior from occurring and hold those who are responsible for any criminal charges to hold them responsible and to impound as many vehicles as we can that are involved and actively participating in this sideshow behavior so it's going to be frankly a game changer here in sonoma county and we'll continue to work towards some of the other efforts what we need to also do is work with our state legislators like lieutenant cooker talked about assembly bill three that was a bill that's actually been passed but for whatever reason they chose to delay it until taking place until 2025 side shows is a problem today and so we need to be able to work with our state legislators to have legislation that is impacting us today and as a tool that we can use today and that's something that i think that we're going to continue to have to look at we're also going to have to work with our state legislators about more dedicated resources for sideshow response it's a lot of resources it's overtime that needs to be put toward that and that's something that we hope to see some grant opportunities come up from the state of california because oftentimes we're getting very short notice that these are occurring in our community and our existing resources are handling 911 calls and going to those and going to domestic violences and other issues across this so we can't just take all of patrol and suddenly put them on sideshow enforcement so we need some of these dedicated resources and the city has only finite resources for their funds with so many other city departments so i would love to see more support from the state of california dedicated since this is a statewide issue so it's something that i hope to see that we can encourage our state legislators to be able to build some grant opportunities other funding opportunities to address this statewide issue locally as we talked about we'll work on these city ordinances we'll continue to work on some of our mutual aid resources but then we'll work with community engagement about some of the education with parents and so many times we're seeing young teenagers as 14 16 years old that are out at two in the morning at these sideshows and it's clear to me that some parents don't understand the dangers that are present at these events not only from the spinning vehicles but from the shootings the fights and other violence that we see that contributed these events because there's a lot of alcohol consumption at these events often and it's it's not a good combination of vehicles spinning at high rates of speed and alcohol and young people out at two in the morning so we want to work for with our parents with our school officials and others to be able to kind of educate them and the community engagement team has been a key partner in helping us do that so at the end of the day we're seeing tremendous progress across our county over the last three months but we still know there's work to be done in this area and I think that's where we're getting we want to get feedback from our community about the sideshow ordinance and from our city council about what you want to see specifically as we work with the city attorney's office and finalize our draft proposal and those ordinance and be able to go before our city council in October to present the ordinance to the community into our city council so we'll do next slide I believe it's just any questions from our community and from our city leaders thank you very much lieutenant and chief excellent presentation I'll take questions from the subcommittee members I've got a couple of victory if you don't mind me starting jump in chief you had mentioned you know assembly bill three and I listened to some of your interest there but they were actually doing anything and having any meetings either from cal chief's lobbying for it we have the league of california cities annual conference coming up next month in our own lobbyists in sacramento because it does seem kind of crazy that it's not effective until 2025 when it's a real issue now do we have any strategies actually see if we can push that date up I did have a separate meeting with senator require last week an issue I brought it up to him same thing with some loopholes with the ghost guns and we talked about it briefly and that was the avenue that we're going to push it through is through cal chief's and there's an avenue so I'm going to reach out to them this weekend but I at least was able to get it in the ear of senator require of being a real issue and hopefully we can use some of our resources and we have a an intergovernmental officer here for the city of san rosa so I'm going to work with him as well to use some of his resources to educate our community our legislative leaders on what an issue this is so I would ask that you keep at least this subcommittee updated on those efforts because we can play some roles in there and mayor rogers I know has connections in sacramento because I think I'd like to see us actually be proactive set up some meetings if we have to visit face-to-face in sacramento because this is a very real issue that for it to wait around till 2025 just doesn't seem like it's benefiting not just cities but counties too there might be another avenue to do I'll also go through the county associations you know if the sheriff is supportive of those efforts but please keep us apprised of that and see ask us if we can assist in any way to get this effective date moved up the other aspect that I didn't hear and I really like the enforcement strategy and what this city of san rosa and the local law enforcement jurisdictions are doing but what about the court system prosecution of when we actually do make a arrest how is that going um we've seen some progress but honestly I think that we need to continue to work with our local district attorney and others to make it a priority some of the problems is this the debt it's just a misdemeanor for the expedition of speed that you can charge them for spending so that's why the city ordinance will help we're also been going after some of the promoters for a conspiracy to commit felony vandalism because it's doing thousands of dollars of damage to the intersections for if you go out and see after just like all the donuts and the rubber but what we're also trying to do is some innovative strategies of working with our city attorney's office which have been a key partner in this effort about going after some of the organizers even civilly for the damage they're doing to our roadways and the environmental damage that they're doing to of the of this debris going into our storm drains so those are some of the more innovative efforts that we're working on but we um we could see more uh from some some of the local like enforcement efforts upholding some of those responsible right now honestly the biggest hammer has been 30 day impounding their cars and we have our traffic team writing uh warrants for that and then those go though to a hearing before a local judge uh and we've got a lot of support so far from our local judges about upholding those 30 day impounds and keeping them there yeah and i appreciate those 30 day impounds um what would be helpful for me too if we can actually start tracking the number of arrests and see how it's gone through the court system and i know staff is very limited but it might be something that maybe the uh volunteers and police service might be able to track because i think from a public education standpoint to be able to tell the community here's what the police department did on their part now it goes to the court system and if there's no accountability on that end i think that's something you know there's a community wide issue that needs a community wide response including the court system so it'd be very helpful i i would find it very helpful to actually see those numbers about here's what happens when we take enforcement action but if it stops there and is it discouraging that illegal behavior and same thing with the cars do we have any cars that have been impounded on more than one occasion i get what you said or jameen said about you know we don't necessarily need to know who's driving but the same vehicle is at multiple times and has been impounded multiple times what could be our next step to prevent that from happening uh ongoing so anyway i just like a little bit more data so we can actually track how effective these strategies are in changing the behavior and if i could add to that also tom i've actually been in direct contact with the da that's going to be prosecuting those specific sideshow cases and he's they're very much on board and looking for those reports and wants us to identify him in those reports to go directly to him so he's they're completely on board with prosecuting and following through on those cases that's very encouraging what about probation uh i that i don't know actually i don't have any information from probation but i can reach out i know the chief probation officer has been a very strong partner with violence prevention partnership and this would be another arena and i know they have staffing issues but actually having some of these folks if they are participating put them on probation you do it again the consequences are rather significant i i hope they just don't look the other way even if it's just court probation i think it would give another tool to some of the officers dealing with some of these incidents out on the street thanks absolutely and we're one of the things we actually launched this as munch is like or this month is like a little after-action report so we're trying to better categorize how many sites were written how many toes how many stops so that way we have more data on these and then also we created a time card extension to track all overtime and straight time hours spent on sideshow so we can have more data to provide to the state and our city leaders on how much we're spending on sideshow enforcement so that's one thing that we launched both of those this month and that i will get i think to where you're looking for councilmember schwaethelm but we'll dive deeper into those numbers and and certainly work with setting up meetings with our legislative leaders and keep this group informed and no later than our next public safety subcommittee we'll have a report out on some of that progress but i think in october when we go before council will be another opportunity as well great um council member rogers do you have any questions i do thank you so um my first question or actually i would like to thank you guys for the the presentation um it is very thorough and uh in addition to that um have the number of side shows decreased overall recently that we've seen i haven't heard any lately that's what i'm asking yeah we had one two weeks ago so i think that we've seen since launching our new more proactive approach i think we've seen a reduction but by no means hasn't eliminated it so what we're greatly seen though is additional citation additional impounds and we've even seen through some of the online chatter and from talking some of those arrested about they're seeing like oh wow santa rosa doesn't tolerate this so i think that's encouraging but quite frankly more needs to be done and that's why i think pushing for with this ordinance pushing for for some of the civil remedies for some of the organizers and even what criminal charges we can bring against the organizers is some of the things that we really want to continue uh and just showing that we're not going to tolerate it here in the city of santa rosa thank you um my second question is have we seen any bodily injury um in the city limits or surrounding areas um as a result of the side shows absolutely so one of the more the scary ones is we've had on several occasions community members go out to confront sides show behavior and have been assaulted and including at least on two that i'm aware where an individual was knocked out we've had injuries the result of those like that so we've seen that we've seen vehicle collisions occur just outside of the city on stony point and todd we saw a participant struck by a vehicle who later passed away as a result of those injuries that was chp handled that since it was a county jurisdiction for that so we haven't seen any fatalities related to the city of santa rosa but certainly collisions uh assaults and then several shootings including on sinko to my hour we had during a sideshow right there it's a basketball in west a shooting occur where uh one of the participants got in a fight with another participant over damaged to a vehicle and it resulted in a shooting and a young man was shot there in three wow okay so um again i would like to thank you guys very much for one taking the time to to really look and examine the sideshows and what we can do not rushing in and coming up with a strategic plan um to address them it means a lot to me that none of our officers were hurt because i actually uh was blocked out at intersection with the sideshow that uh grew very quickly um so i know that it is uh very dangerous but continuing to look at this issue because it is definitely impacting my district and other areas in santa rosa and around santa rosa so thank you very much absolutely if i could interject too on that that's part of our strategy um is to try to prevent these from growing as they get started and that's why we need to identify more resources and have those resources in place and working with our uh law enforcement partners in the county is very important any further questions no thank you chair okay so i have a question about the santa rosa ordinance would the santa propose santa rosa ordinance ma mirror the state ordinance but have a faster implementation time or does it differ in any other significant ways well there's no true state ordinance uh right that so the state just has like expedition to speed i believe it's 23103c of the vehicle code that that's a generic of just like um spinning your tires and things like that so that's one that we've had on the books for years but it doesn't have a specific sideshow one so we'd be modeling the one off of san jose the lieutenant cooker talked about about which is now actually making it that misdemeanor city ordinance but so the state doesn't have one in existence right now which is why cities are having to step up and that might be another thing as we have these meetings with our state legislators maybe it is time for them to put more specific vehicle code sections addressing it because undoubtedly this is a statewide issue and needs more honestly some legislation of some accountability for those who participate right and i'm just interested to know how we would approach education especially if there is a bystander ordinance um but i know that our goal is not to criminalize large portions of our community and so how do we um how do you envision outreach to people who may have been involved in watching one of these incidents you know especially minors or very young people very young adults in ways that help them to understand the environmental impacts and the the risk to safety and um you know locate other avenues of entertainment that certainly wouldn't be quite as hazardous as this i think it's an important uh point and and we're not wanting to use as the tool to make mass arrests in our community but honestly we want to be able to use it a tool that we can use in some of those engagement opportunities when we're talking to parents of saying parents it's actually illegal for your young son or daughter whoever it may be to be out there participating in and to be even watching these side shows and being spectator and cheering them on so i think it'll be a good tool for some of that community engagement we've had a lot of conversations with legates from our community engagement department about what she can do and and that came from some of the community listening sessions about loud uh feedback from community members about wanting us to see more and even doing these spectator ordinance so i think we'll work with our local schools with our community engagement department and use this as an engagement tool of trying to dissuade people from ever being out there in the first place and it's another tool that we can use for even dispersing these crowds without necessarily even making arrests but it gives us the lawful authority to say it's a violation of the law to be here you need to disperse and then we can use some of our our amplified uh microphones that we've talked about the LRAD would be one there that we could use that to announce to everyone saying hey this is this is a legal congregation we need to move out and just and use it as a tool to disperse them without necessarily arrest honestly would be the the last case resort uh like that but it gives us the legal authority to tell people you need to leave this area when they're sometimes quickly like we talked about two three hundred is like no exaggeration those quickly grow especially they're sabbatical and west has been one of the biggest areas that we've seen but frankly we see it all over the city it's on the uh we see it in fountain grove we see it in vinnett valley we see it everywhere in the city that we're seeing uh the side shows spring up and cause problems yeah um two more quick questions one is what and this one's for the lieutenant I think um what about the bot dots provides only temporary relief or reduced relief and is there um is it are they being removed or are people just learning to navigate over them I think they're learning to navigate over them and realizing that they're they're also kind of slick so the more that they go over them it kind of wears them down and some of them are probably being lifted off so they're putting in um I believe it sabbatical and west um engineering just put in uh more the they're bigger and more raised uh type of bot stocks I think they're still bot stocks I think that's the category they're still in and then other barriers that are kind of sticking up on the curves for going around corners so it it really tightens the intersection a bit and makes it really difficult more difficult um for them to you know do the spinning okay that's helpful and then the other thing is this is just based on my personal observations um in my district in particular near one of our high schools you know regularly at 10 and noon um you'll see students come out and practice these tricks there won't be large crowds but it'll be um you know essentially just rehearsal or practice and it does pose a danger but it's also you know doesn't elevate to the level of sideshow um because you don't have the crowds or the planning um as far as how you laid it out here and I'm just curious what what we might do and how we might communicate with these less formal practice sessions that are certainly seem necessary in order to be able to show up at a sideshow prepared to to perform yeah that's a good question I have I haven't actually heard of that occurring in the smaller um or during school or on breaks or anything like that so um but again I think it goes back to what the chief was saying about education and getting the word out um you know and if if necessary then citing when that type of action is is taking place because it's still audible tire friction and could be you know um an infraction or misdemeanor when it's occurring um but we also um speaking of community engagement we also have our our youth community police experience and our adult community our uh yeah community police experience that we just had so I think it's you know continuing that education and we actually had sideshow presentations during both of those sessions which are very informative and educational for the youth that go through the program so I think it's just getting the word out that this is not okay and it's against the law okay thank you so much um and then um with that we will go to public comment do we have any public comment I see one hand raised let's see um I see our daiki would you like to go ahead thank you good morning um my name is art daiki I'm a member of the chief's community ambassador team um I'm only speaking for myself though and I just want to say I appreciate the level of effort and the coordination that santa rosa police department has put on on this and what appears to be really positive results um I have a couple questions and comments um I'm wondering about ab3 if if um the chp is going to have to follow that also and if so um shouldn't they be coordinated with to try to move that july 1st 2025 date closer for implementation um I'm also wondering if santa rosa police department provides the mutual aid um outside of our jurisdiction um as I know sheriff and chp assist us do we assist um windsor um rome park stuff like that I'm curious about that and then um finally I thought that a lot of the participants and spectators were from out of town um not necessarily in santa rosa or the county and I was wondering if we could speak on that thank you very much thank you mr dyke um as you know we don't get in a back and forth but when public comment is done I will ask our staff to respond to your questions and suspect that public comment is done do we have any pre-recorded public comment there's no voicemail public comment on this item okay excellent I'll turn it over to staff to respond to mr dyke's questions it's a good question so we are coordinating county-wide so it doesn't matter it's happening in windsor Sonoma it's a county-wide effort and we're committed to sending our resources right now we're keeping we're keeping it maintaining it throughout Sonoma County because we did talk to our uh joining uh counties of Moran and Napa and others and we will under large circumstances go to those counties but right now we're trying to keep concentrating to the county of Sonoma for the mutual aid we will work with chp and I'll bring it up at our Sonoma County law enforcement chiefs association in September about what we can do is a coordinated effort about reaching out to our state legislators about 83 and other grant opportunities needed for sideshow enforcement and I'll work with Scott Alonzo our city's uh intergovernmental relations officer and work with him and through Cal Chiefs as well so we'll get some movement going on that of working with our legislative partners in that area and we'll continue to work our county-wide effort in providing support for each one of our agencies and overwhelmingly Santa Rosa's been the getting the benefit of that because the 95 percent of them have been here in the city of Santa Rosa unfortunately I believe that address the question was there any that I missed um I I hope not but well they'll have to suffice thank you very much and thank you to everybody for slowing down I hope it's helping the interpreters all right moving on um that I think will conclude item 5.2 now we have item 5.3 um with Lieutenant Hackett Dan Hackett um introducing the newest canine to our team and discussion um around firearms and use of canines uh over to you Lieutenant uh thank you uh Ms. Fleming um my name is Lieutenant Dan Hackett uh I have uh recently uh taken over as the canine lieutenant and uh I was asked to come here today to just give a little bit of an update and overview of how we utilize our canine program and um ultimately introduce you to our new team uh canine team uh can I have the next slide please so we have had a canine program in the city of Santa Rosa for approximately 20 years and our uh current canine teams are listed there we have um Officer Berg who became a canine officer in 2018 and his canine partner Cain um Officer Verceli became a canine officer in 2020 and his canine partner Enzo Officer Adams uh became a canine officer in 2019 and his canine partner Ace and then Officer Gonzalez was just selected to the canine team this July and he has trained his new canine partner Ghost um two of those teams work our Monday through Thursday shifts and two of the teams work our weekend Friday through Sunday shifts uh next slide please so the typical use for our canine officers while they are uh working on patrol is they will assist our officers in building searches they will do person tracking uh they could do drug detection and article location whether that be um evidence or items that were discarded from cars uh in pursuits or anything uh and that's what they do on patrol and um what I forgot to put on here is they also do a lot of uh community engagement and do presentations um at schools um I'm a Boy Scout leader and I had a canine come and do a presentation at my Boy Scout uh troop one time um so they are also heavily used in our community uh engagement when they're not on patrol uh next slide please so the training that our canines get is um they're in an initial six week training for the canine and the handler to begin working together and to start training with that article uh detection um there is an additional six week training program uh for drug detection that um three of our dogs have been through and those drugs are heroin uh methamphetamine and cocaine is what they are trained to detect and then there is an additional five week training for subjects tracking and detection uh next slide please uh this is one thing that we're uh very excited about here at the San Jose Police Department is that our newest canine uh ghost he is not going to be trained in drug detection uh instead we are going to train ghost in um the the detection of firearms and this is really in line with um the police department's commitment and the chief's commitment to combat violent crime in our city uh next slide please so you see um you might see on the screen already officer Gonzalez there with his uh with his new partner um officer Gonzalez has been with the police department for about seven and a half years he assisted the canine team with training for two years which means that he um was the person that would hide and let the uh dogs come and find him um for their monthly trainings and he would put the the what we call the bite suit on and the dogs would um would bite him um as I mentioned earlier he was selected to the canine team just this July of 2022 and he is currently in training with his partner ghost we've got him um on screen here I think if we go to the next slide there's a picture of ghost in front of his um oh that's just a um what a Belgian mountain wall looks like but I'll turn it over to uh officer Gonzalez who's there that he can introduce himself anymore and ghost who's with him can you hear us Aaron my name is Aaron Gonzalez I'm a police officer of the city of Santa Rosa where I've worked for seven years I have the privilege of being can you hear me mom yeah you're on air and it's a little hi my name is Aaron so Lieutenant um we realize ingestion that we take a brief uh we won't even recent we'll just take a three minute break for technology issues without these additions ghost that's fine yeah 18 month old Belgian mountain it's a little windy out here sorry guys uh ghost is an 18 month old Belgian mountain wall he's he comes to us from a breeder in Stockton we are in our second it may not work they were trying to do he's actually in training so they were trying to do it from the training site and maybe technology won't allow that I can see that um well lieutenant um instead do you want to say what you think um officer Gonzalez might have wanted to share with us yeah I think he was just going to mention that they are uh currently in that first uh six weeks of training uh that I had outlined earlier and um uh ghost is 19 months old he's a Belgian mountain wall like the rest of our canines are and uh I think I heard him say he came um from a breeder in Stockton and um after uh Aaron and ghost complete their training they're going to be joining one of our weekend teams towards I think mid-september is the is the target date for when they will be uh on patrol with us wonderful thank you is that the conclusion of the staff presentation on this item yes ma'am awesome um very cool stuff do we have any questions from our council members go ahead uh assuming that's me uh yeah thanks for that presentation I know with the uh drug detection you mentioned heroin in meth and coke um I know fentanyl has been a big issue in our community are they able to detect that um none of the dogs have been trained in fentanyl training so we would have to re-evaluate to provide them with additional training um and that's something that we can absolutely look into and see um what the cost would be and how much um how long the class would be and and what they would what we would need you to make them trained in that detection okay thanks you know from what I know about it it seems like that'd be a wise investment given what some of the circumstances unfortunately been happening in our community that thanks for that presentation thank you council member rogers any questions no ma'am all right um well thank you for the presentation I think that council member schwadhelm point um you know speaks really directly to what the the chief is getting at which is that we're not looking to criminalize using these k9s but we are looking to enhance broader community safety and and to that end um I think that we all understand that guns and and in particular fentanyl are of great concern for our community safety um do we have any public comment on this item chair fleming I see no raised hands there's nobody in the council chamber and we have no voicemail public comment okay thank you with that thank you so much to staff for that and please send our thanks on to the officer for his efforts in trying to get online um today so we'll move on to item six which is future topics do any members of the subcommittee have anything that they would like to see come in front of this body going forward for me I'd just like to see the site show ordinance come back if we have a draft before it goes the entire council and also an update on some of the conversation points that we had today I think it needs be an ongoing discussion okay anything else all right seeing um no other comments I will once again give a hearty thank you to staff to the council members and to our interpreters for making this a success thank you to everybody for your patience with technology and all of the other components that come into doing a hybrid meeting and we will adjourn this meeting of the public safety subcommittee thank you much