 Hello, everybody. I'm good. I'm good. I'm going to share my screen. I think we're expecting at least one more person. I don't know if this is going to be it. I hope not. Let me get this up here. There he is. Morning. Hello Alfonso, how are you? Very fine and you. I am well, I am well. It's Monday morning. It's a holiday here. So it's, it's a slow day for us. Good. It's early in the morning for me, but here I am. Yes, thank you for joining us on the call right now is a runima who is my mentee, who is going to be again in charge of coordinating all of the main things that we're doing as the documentation task force is supporting all the mentorship programs. And for those of you, Paul Alfonso has one of the mentorship programs, the learning tokens. So he is going to tell us a little bit about that. So we can see how we can assist and also possibly be a test case for him through what some of the things that we're trying to do. But that was great. I just want to just mention that the answer trust policy is on the screen. It is how we conduct the meetings and there's a code of conduct if you need to read about how to conduct the calls. So we'll get into it in just a minute people are still filtering in. So Alfonso how is your mentorship going how is your mentee tell us a little bit about just the overall. Well, this is the second year of learning tokens. This is our third year as a Linux foundation mentor. The first year, you remember Bobby as part of the learning materials and development special interest group we had a global directory. It went quite well and we got related with GBBC, which is a global blockchain business council, and they were doing a mapping initiative, which we collaborated and that end up with a crowd source list of about 800 places in the world where you can learn about blockchain and the other. Learning tokens basically is a, an idea that complements an old very good approach of certifying degrees and courses in with block search in the blockchain. Why is it a compliment, because we go before the final certification of course. We go in a granular way to register the transmission of skills. Learning tokens is a way to register transmission of skills between members teaching the skill and whoever is learning this skill. The idea is that this tokens can be given automatically for three purposes. One, the teacher can assign tokens for each of the steps where she or he evaluates the acquisition of a script of the skill. The second one is a token that is given among the learners so that if someone helps someone else in the process of learning a skill, then he receives a token or she receives a token. And the third kind of token is a token that students receive learners receive to grade the instructor. This is a way of registering within a community, the transmission and acquisition of skills. As a result, learners have a an e wallet that it's a profile of skills, an e wallet that they can use with all the, the, the privacy issues that that we can have with verifiable potentials and all those those issues to show the skills that acquire doing during the lifetime. This is important not for the person, but it's important for whoever is going to hire them, or whoever is going to partner with them. It's important for the institutions to, to measure in a granular way to have data of the learning process. Block search is and badges are very good for the completion of the process learning tokens, it's granular registry of the process. Next year, we use the token taxonomy framework of the interwork alliance, which is hosted by global blockchain business council to define what the previous mentee define a, the artifacts for, for those free tokens. So what we're going to do is we're going to work in three phases. First phase and a very quick one. We are going to the right and deploy in hyper ledger best soon. These smart contracts that correspond to the artifacts defined last year. We're going to look into the structure of massive online open forces moves to find an easy way for the instructors that create those courses to give tokens automatically. Third phase, that's why I say, Oh, when you suggested it, but is we would are going to have a pilot project. Okay, the pilot project with could be with within hyper ledger. That's why I appreciate what you suggest, but also could be locally. And the mentee of this year is from Bangladesh. We have 32 applications, I interview 17, all of them were outstandingly qualified. And the good thing is we have a hyper ledger lab for learning tokens, where we can receive all those interested that were not unfortunately selected as a woman. Finally, the pilot project could be from a local university, or we can reach because hyper ledger now has as a formal agreement with GBBC for this mentorship project to announce in the 800 universities that GBBC has in the global standards So that's, that's what it is. And we are beginning tomorrow is our first working day with time gene. First mentee was from India. Second mentee was from El Salvador in Central America. And third mentee is from Bangladesh. So it seems like, you know, we cross the Pacific every year. So maybe next year would be back in Latin America. And that's what it is and I'm open to questions. Well, first Alfonso thank you so much for coming in presenting this. I feel that the synergies between what we're going to be doing. Towards the end one of our buckets of work and I can explain quickly our buckets but one of our buckets are user guides for things. I would love to supply user guides for people who are actively looking into learning tokens through the library I mean we're going to be working on if you go to the wiki and hit that button or go to the website and hit the button libraries. There's going to be learning materials in there and it would be great if they could earn the learning tokens, taking little videos or whatever. Like I said it's very granular so as they, you know, do something they get a token in their wallet and they learn about that first and that would be awesome if we could somehow create that user guide through the hyper ledger library, which is something that when we do user guides we will definitely work together to get that done, whatever you need. That would be incredible I thank you for the suggestion I thank you for the support. No, and just another question from from me before I turn it over to people so how are you using basic like where so you have the learning tokens lab so if I wanted to try to do this for say, a course. Like I just finished writing the hyper ledger, entered a hyper ledger MOOC for edX. And it's not my course it's their course I wrote it for them so I can't do it to that but for instance for my example let's take that course so it's a brand new course it's not even out yet it's coming out in two days. So if I were to enact learning tokens for that course. So what would be the steps like would I fork your lab and then customize the artifact like how does the process work for someone to grab the information and and use it as a test case. Okay, the way to do it is one of the main issues with block search and with certifications in the blockchain is not only the issue of the blockchain registry which that is quite well sold. But it's the issue of the institutions the only administrative registry of institutions for the courses given for the instructors for the learners. Private information that universities edX or whoever wants to keep in in a private way so that they can have a central registry or decentralized whatever they want to do, but that's a private part. And on the other hand, the wallets and the tokens, we want them to be in a public way. So what we are going to do at the end of this mentorship is we'll have the smart contracts in this for the minting the transmission, the wallets of the tokens themselves. And we will give a general idea of how an institution that wants to use it. In this case, yourself at edX no register within their administrative processes we're not touching upon those. But they would have a way of connecting with the minting and distribution of tokens, and you would have in your course and this is the most important point. You could have in your course if you want to a way to automatically give the tokens on each assignment on each assessment, or on each step whatever you want to define you define the granularity, and you define how many tokens you give. Okay, for the students, we are suggesting, just as a suggestion that there would be 100 tokens per student, like in most of the grades in different parts of the world that go on the decimal system. So, the tokens would be there, deployed as smart contracts, and an outline on the second phase of our project would be for the institutions to decide how to include the assignment and distribution of tokens as as they fit in being. I wanted to meet the user guides for project managers on the university level to tell them how to register the events, the course being the event, and the wallet. They get before they start learning with 100 tokens in it to get classes. And then, yep, and then as they mature in the system, they're earning more tokens for more classes or more incentives. These ideas. Awesome. What a great concept. The idea is to, to let every institution continue working the way they do. Okay, we're just adding something. And we're adding the token and a wallet, and a way to assign those tokens as you wish. I call it tokenomics. It is. It is. And also, we are linking with the skill-based learning approach, which is this a new approach. Well, it has been around for a while, but it's been promoted recently by the World Economic Forum. And they have a taxonomy of skills, so the idea is to use the taxonomy of skills so that everyone knows what kind of token they're getting, why they get it, from what course, what instructor, what institution. But giving freedom to everyone to continue working the way they do. We don't have to go to a special registry. We just provide a support and the support from Hyperledger, you know, and also it's a joint effort with GBBC. Okay, and you're using Basu so that it's public and private, that's awesome too. That's the idea. The idea is if they want to use a private part and do some of the registry they want to find. If they don't, they just register saying, we are taking tokens for this course, given by Bobby, well created by Bobby, no, and given by edX. That's incredible. It is really quite incredible. Future of learning. So I'm going to open it up to everybody on the call, please ask Alfonso as many questions as popped into your head. And I'll try to answer as many as I pushed it up out of my head. So I'm not going to call on you so there you go, Malcolm's first. Good morning. Yeah, great presentation. I did come in a little late so hopefully I'm not asking something repetitive but I was wondering, I see that this is really for MOOCs, the open courses. Is there also a plan to do this like in a, let's say a college maybe like you, you go to the college and it, you know, you get different tokens for each class or each year, and you can transfer that token to another college. Is that also in the plan for this project. And not for the project as such, you're talking about an application. And that would be a very interesting application to complement a skill based registry of learning to the university or college registry of degrees and certificates. Okay. We're not going to do the marketing. We're not going to do the research of application. We're a basic tool. We provide a tool for whomever wants to use it. Okay, and that then that is why it's very important what Bobby suggested at the beginning that we can do together a in the library, a guide on how to use the stuff. But what you're saying would be a very good application. Complimentary to what they already do. Yeah, and to add on that I would love to try to just use a test case of Ledger Academy and see if Ledger Academy can, as soon as the student registers give them 100 tokens and see what classes they can come in the metaverse and take. That would be awesome. So you've got me even thinking of it on my own personal professional level that I'm glad you you want to join. Absolutely. The tokens would be at the end. Okay, of this mentorship. No, with your support for the guide. Yes. But yes. It's for you. Thank you Malcolm do you have any more questions welcome. No, that was it. I appreciate it. Thank you. Does anybody else have any questions. Okay, I'm not seeing anybody raise their hand or to go off mute. So Alfonso thank you for joining us. And I might be sending people to your calls do you have them set up at a time yet for your mentor. Yes, I will have them Tuesday morning, because we are 12 hours apart. Okay, but it would be private. And then every two weeks, we're going to open up and have a, an open up mentor mentee plus whomever wants to. So then for Tuesday, Tuesday, yes. Tuesdays at 10 o'clock am Mexico's time which is mountain time in the US. Now, perfect. Again, thank you so much for joining us. Well, thanks to you for the welcome to stay for our meeting. As I told you I apologize I have another meeting. No previous meeting so I'm going back to that. Okay, thank you so much. Thanks to you. Bye bye. Okay, bye bye thank you. Okay so let's get back to our meeting and welcome everyone. I hope you enjoyed that he only had a little bit of time for us. So I didn't realize I had worked with him three years ago on the registry to register blockchain institutions that were legit, let's say, instead of like some of the ones that were fly by night like I could tell you some stories. I'll tell you this one story about five years ago I was at the Miami blockchain convention. I was there for Ledger Academy I was just starting or six years ago I think it was starting out and it was when Bitcoin was at its highest and so this was the convention in Miami. And the Talbot turn was there. And two years before that was when he had announced Ethereum at that very convention and he was walking around like big man on campus it was great to see even though he was like 20 at the time. But there was this company that I wanted to either join work with learn from, and they were called Academy of blockchain. And they were international company and they were raising money, and the gentleman's name was Jason King, who was running this Academy token thing, and they raised so much money at that convention like I don't know how to raise money they're, they're investors there they have all their angel investors there, they're, you know, whatever. And they raised over, like, I don't even know how many millions of dollars they raised. I can't find them online anymore. I don't think they ever taught a class. So I, again, I was shocked and appalled that that they could say that they were going to do something actually raise money and then just not do it at all. When even someone like myself was just a regular teach computer teacher technology teacher could muster up a class or two once every quarter. You know, like they couldn't even do that and I could like, and they had millions of dollars behind them so like the motivation for a lot of people and that was six years ago a lot of those types of companies have been weeding out I could tell you at least 10, 10 different stories from that convention of companies that look like they had the best plan and now we're completely gone with their ICOs in there. It was just incredible time, but what, what, what a curse, what a shit show. Anyway, I apologize for the curse word. But it's the most appropriate one. So we're going to go back to our meeting. So what the first year of that project was to try to weed out people who were actually not doing what they said that they were going to do and actually teaching courses and again the GBBC which we he's partnered with is an excellent resource for learning blockchain. So housekeeping again this is our weekly meeting. Welcome everybody. We're going to go through the roll call in a minute and talk about what everybody's been working on but just to give you an overview of what we're doing today it's kind of a light meeting because of the presentation. First and foremost welcome and housekeeping I want to say thank you for everybody who was on the TOC meeting Thursday and presented you guys did an excellent job. They were very impressed. Min was so appreciative and I'm hoping that a lot of connections were made so that we can work together with some of these mentorships, I will get involved in the summer if we need to connect with any specific ones just like the learning token. And if anybody has gone through the list of mentorship programs and think that there's synergies like with the learning token please raise your hand and invite them to present do whatever these are your meanings. I'm just here to make sure they happen. And that is thank you again for everybody you're going to mean you did an excellent job organizing that setting it up. I was very very impressed. So we had the presentation of the learning tokens, we're going to go through the roll call and talk. Just wanted you to keep in mind when we go through everybody, what we're working on in the next two to three weeks is the presentation for the TOC about the task force. And through that presentation, we will organize our committees and our thoughts and our goals. So that by the time we do this presentation, we will know what we're working on in the summer because we will tell the technical oversight committee, this is what we're working on this summer and in order to do that we have to organize ourselves in the next two weeks. So, that's the that's what we're working on is that presentation. It is the point of the presentation is to tell the TOC that we're not going to be presenting or I'm not going to be talking about the task force every week for the summer. We're just going to be working and we'll let them know if we need time during their calls. We're going to tell them specifically what we're working on and again it's those five, five sections. And we want to, you know, specify the goals that we want to achieve by the end of the summer in that presentation. So, we're going to break out into subsections for those five. And we're going to pick a head or, you know, anyone who wants if no one does it and run a man gets the job. Run away gets the job unfortunately she's going to get most of the jobs. I'm really enjoying this and you know learning so much and I actually made some amazing friends also through this call so it's awesome. Oh good I'm so glad you're getting a good experience I hope everybody by the end of the summer thinks this was a great way to expand your horizons. I will be selecting the subcommittee chair so if you're introducing yourself and you see yourself in one of the roles I'll go over the five topics again briefly. Before we start introducing everybody and then I'm going to leave the call and leave the room open for you to if you have subcommittees you want to talk about. If you need time on zoom calls during the week, just let me know I can give you my personal zoom room or we can grab one from the hyper ledger folks. The five things we're working on are the GitHub repository and I know someone has been working with Tracy on that. The templates for the community. Best practices which after the TOC meeting is going to morph into best practices slash badging. They want to offer badges, kind of I guess like the learning token idea. When projects have everything they need in their labs to move to incubation have everything in their incubation to move to graduated and then maintain their graduated version controls user guides and security measures throughout the life span of the project. So that badging thing is just getting started. So that's, that's like best practices. They want to put the best practices task force into a badging thing. On boarding we're going to be working heavily with a lot of the website and wiki page and other places that the community on boards, but we'll be working with that mentee on that more so than just working on our own. But we will be supplying the onboarding guides and direction. And then the user guides again there is going to be so many of those and this is kind of probably Bobby sorry to interrupt but you know, I can't show. She wanted to ask for a long time about what. You can go ahead and Bobby sorry for interrupting you and Oh, no, no worries. Please interrupt me at all. Whenever you have an idea. Yeah, I was just waiting like we finished and I started talking about it. So actually I have been selected as the second boarding mentee for this year's Elevates program. So, so under Ben sir and I have been selected as a mentee and I'm working under them. But also I'm working under you as a person who is leading the onboarding onboarding task force for documentation also. So, thank you so much. Yeah, I had asked you earlier so like if we can work on both you said yeah it won't be much of issue because usually documentation and and onboarding are side by side they are like. Yeah, and definitely you can feed this group whatever onboarding needs from us. Definitely. So for the problem is that I have not much contact with john said I have contacted the other mentor Peter said is also like not responsible enough because I guess he's busy. He's meeting a lot of projects, but I have contacted the board the mentors and like I'm not able to contact Ben john said sorry. The other mentor has like responded to me but he said like will be starting soon and in today's meet also they are not there so I'm not really clear about what exactly how should I start onboarding work. So can you just give me a guide me like what should I. Sure, of course okay so I know john is on vacation or he mentioned in a meeting two weeks ago that he had family commitments at the start of the mentorship program and would not be around for this call for two weeks and this is the second week. I do apologize for the timing of the mentorship program and his vacation. But I know that he will be back on this call next week to completely guide you. I'm just to take a thousand foot view. Where am I going. Yes, so each, each mentorship group has a page for men. So on mine, I keep what we do for runima and what her tasks are on this page. And I'm sure there's one for onboarding. And that's where john and the other mentor will communicate with you as to what the tasks are for the onboarding task force, which again has its own information and page. So I hope that answers your questions about to where he's been and the guidance that hasn't been coming but will be. Did that cover it. I guess it didn't or didn't I'm not sure if that helped answer your question. Yeah, I checked this page also and also like I have checked two more pages, one which was created by you. I guess you have created that in which you have mentioned the task of onboarding. Yes, I have like read it and in the meeting to like the TOC meeting on Thursday last I spoke about that everything you wrote there and I just explained that in three minutes and I would definitely find you for making that work. Yep. Yeah, so this is the onboarding stuff and again, it hasn't had a formal meeting in a long time. And I was the task force for the liaison for this task force to the TOC but john was kind of running and he put the mentorship project up so I'm sure that we're we're still waiting a lot on onboarding and I apologize for the lack of information or continuity, but it's so hard to do anything with onboarding until we get the new branding, and the new look and feel and the new website because you can't really design around something you don't know what it looks like. Yeah, I understand that but I'm just clear I have got an idea since I've talked to you that yeah I will be working on everything properly once John is back so that's all I want. And I think the first thing that John will do or if he's I'll send him an email this week to make sure he'll be on next week is we need to get Ben involved we need to have his cooperation as to you know enacting the things that you're suggesting or, you know, putting them on the website and working with him. So we really need to get him involved in these calls. So I will put that down as an action item for me. I'm sorry I didn't I didn't hear that. I said no thank you so much I'm a bit clear now. Okay. Okay, so now I'm going to go back and we're going to start introductions and again keep in mind the five committees, if you want to work on 12345 doesn't matter, just as long as if you commit to something, you do do it. Let's start with on computer. I apologize for my computer. Okay, so I've already introduced myself and gone first, though we'll go down the list and Agnes is on my list first. All right, everyone. I think I'd be interested in joining the user guide and best practices committees. I think that would be something I've been interested in. Yeah, as for the other projects, I'll be joining. Last week, I and someone else joined the Indie and Aris calls. So I've just been reading through their week is just understand what they're all about. So I'll join the other calls this week. Someone mentioned one of the leads mentioned that we probably need to have a meeting so that we know exactly what to do with regard to documentation. So I'll probably have an update on the next meeting. Thank you. Thank you very much. Next is Ankesha. Hello, mom. So, yeah, you can introduce yourself to everybody as like overall. Okay, so hi everyone. So I am a counter and I'm from India, New Delhi. And I've been working and contributing to hyper legends in fast, I guess it's more than a month, because I was there before selling the application and I have been in talk to John, John said and Bobby Mamsen then. So it's been a long time that I'm part of this community round. So that's why I am so like interested in working with ma'am that I'm working two projects right now one is on voting for which I'm actually selected 20. And one is documentation under Bobby ma'am so on voting is the project that I like to lead on because it would be convenient for me as well. So that's about me and I would love to work with you all. Thank you. Thank you so much. Yeah, so hello everyone. My name is and much Audrey and I will be, I am also one of the eleventh mentee selected and I will be leading the documentation standards that sports and helping you all and I hope at the end we all can make this project a success. And help the other projects as well to provide to help them bridge the gaps in documentation and as much as we can. So, yeah, that's about me. And I'm also from India. So, yes. Thank you so much and again you did a great job on the presentation they were really impressed they got a flavor for what we're doing and it was short to the point so thank you so much for arranging all that. Thank you so much Bobby, thanks a lot. Thanks to everybody else on the call who who stepped up and presented it was awesome. I'm from India or Jalandhar, like my colleges in Jalandhar and I'm from UP. So I would be working on a GitHub template and best practices. And I have already talked to the bevel mentee Bobby you had said that he'll be joining our meet. So, I'm sorry did you join any any calls. Yes, he didn't get to meet him. Okay, so you're interested in these three areas. Yes, yes. I have talked about the projects I have talked to the bevel one. And also I have texted in kectile project group, but I have not received any reply from there. So, which one kectile. I'm sorry. I will be pronouncing it correct. Just type it in the chat for me. Oh, cacti cacti. I'll tell you the story about that. So cacti was, they haven't replied yet. I didn't get any response from them. So I would be joining the next meeting. Peter is awesome and if you introduce yourself to Peter he's in charge of cacti, he will help you out and get you where everything you need he is really, really a good guy. But cactus was born out of. It was the bath. Blockchain, no automation framework. No, I think it was Biff the inner. So it was the interactive framework. So it was dealing with interoperability and how hyper ledger saw the definite need that we need to be able to have some kind of area blockchains can go to talk to each other. So that was a playground where all the other blockchains can go and play. And so that was a lab for like two years. And then at the global forum in Arizona. The lab presented and became a project called cactus because we were in Arizona, and they were cactuses. And I realized about a year later, which was like just a few months ago that cactus is plural, and the project is singular. So they've changed the name from cactus to cacti. Oh, which I personally think a project that is about interoperability should have nothing to do with cactuses, because cactuses takes away. I'll give you the name on that. Anyway, so thank you very much. And when we break out into the runaway has the breakouts to start the presentation work. That'll be great to keep that in mind that you've done those things. The presentation we're not on the agenda yet so there's no panicking about getting it done. Next week I will tell them when we're going to present are this week and it won't be for at least two to three weeks so we have plenty of time to work on getting our thoughts straight so we know what each group's goals are and we have plenty of time to make the presentation awesome so no worries about that. And thank you so much. Okay. Yes, good morning everybody. I'm Malcolm I am currently a programmer for data governance for an insurance company. I'm interested in the application of blockchain technology for enterprise use. I just finished the intro to hyperledger course this morning. So ready to jump into more learning. One thing I noticed was the mention of the special interest groups in the last section thought that was pretty interesting. And I'm looking at not only this group for documentation which I think will definitely help with my own skills and and I love to help other people. You know, be able to to get started and using the technology. But I'll be joining a bunch of calls this week. I think the learning token with based it was interesting as well. I would love to see like a way for where you can get a token in a MOOC or in a university and then transfer it to likely let's say you get a token from university and it's, you can use it in an online course or vice versa. I think that would be pretty cool. But as far as the, you know, the group I definitely want to help with user guides I think Agnes also mentioned. But that's why I think I think I will fit in pretty pretty well as with the user guide help. Thank you. Yeah, the special interest groups are to me. The purpose of hyper ledger because you have all these consortium based groups, not worried about proprietary software for the first time. Open source other open source projects still come with the stigma of, I'm going to say, mind my mind mind mind mind mind mind, where hyper ledger is trying to be the open source project, that's yours yours your yours yours yours yours yours yours. Hopefully that will, with the special interest groups, create solutions like we've never seen before, like with Telcom, that one white paper that they wrote that has to do with how they settle the calls at night because you bounce off all the towers and every night they have to settle. And now they just do it on a blockchain on Hyperledger and it's amazing how quickly they can work together. So again, the special interest groups, climate action, trade finance, they're all doing, I guess it's capital markets. Again, just amazing things. They just put out a paper. I'm not sure if I can grab it right away, but I'll put the link in the chat if I can. I think I put it on my desktop. It just came out with a paper on CBDC's Hyperledger. It was, oh no, I put it, I know where it is. Hold on, let me just get it in the chat. This is well worth reading. Which group did you say this was the? This is the trade capital markets. So this is on, it just gives you an overview. Oh, I found it, yay. It gives you an overview of the current status of every CBCD on the globe. So let me just drop that in the link for people to read. And it just came out. This link works for everybody. Have you had any? Oh, that might not work up to my own user guide. Oh crap. Oh, I know what to do, hold on. Sorry, you're seeing me inside of my machine. Okay, so the special interest group capital markets put out this for the Hyperledger community. It's very interesting. I just put it up there the easiest way for you guys to get at it. So enjoy reading that. And definitely the special interest groups, every single one of them. I'm sorry, social impact went away. That was my favorite, but there was nobody really there to keep it up. But again, some of these are fascinating places to be. So back to Jor, I know you have done a lot. So if you could catch us up on all your awesome work, that would be great. Hi, everyone. So Bobby, would you mind to go back to my wiki page that you wanted us to create and post everything? Yeah. So I joined the meeting of Solang before and I've just attended that. And as Bobby suggested that we should go around and just barge into the meetings and say that she like, send it us. And so I did that. And when I was in the call, they were like struggling with documentation. And the last time that I joined their meeting, that was last Friday, I joined them. And I told them that if they need any help, we can help them. So they were like, yeah, we need a lot of help because we are all developers. We don't know how to do anything about documentation. It would be amazing if you can make tutorials like for the beginners and if you can help us in user guides. So I guess I will be under the subsections of user guide. And so here you can see that there are the tutorials that they wanted to work on. Like what is Solang and how we can set up in different operating systems like Mac OS, Linux, Microsoft and that all. And they want us to give them a user guide on how to set up Solang. And if you don't even know about anything about coding, then we have to, like it should be very beginner friendly. We have to introduce what is Solana, what is like how to make contracts. And if you want to make contracts in solidarity, how can you upload it on Solang? So that's what they are looking for. So I came up with all these headings for the tutorials if we can work on any of them. And I wanted to take guidance from Bobby how we should be proceeding and what should I convey to them? Well, here's the thing. So the usual or what Hyperledger wants the documentation test force in the GitHub section to do is it wants these projects to be able to take their current GitHub repositories, use either read the docs, make the docs, Sphinx which is what we have to come up with with what that templated GitHub repository looks like and take their current working repositories and make them user guides. That's what I always thought the user guides came from. So insofar as you sitting down and trying to create user guides for them, I think it's more modifying the GitHub repository into user guides and anyone can correct me if I'm wrong. So yeah, I don't think you'll be doing these from scratch but more assisting with taking their GitHub repository because they're GitHub repositories in order for them to move through the lifecycle need to have certain things in them. And that's the ability to create user docs from them. But this other stuff like getting started with Solang, a beginner's guide we can definitely do that one. But again, building the projects, a comprehensive like, I don't think you have the bandwidth to be able to create. I mean, this is a massive undertaking all these user guides. This is massive. This is a MOOC. If you did all this, you'd create a MOOC. So again, we're there to help them any way we can in whatever bandwidth you have but I don't want you to think that because you're on this Solang user guide task force that you have to create all of these documents like above and beyond, we ask you to do. That's what I was like. So I wanted to know that what is the way to proceed and how should I get started and what should I tell them in the next meeting that what I will be like providing them or what the team has and what we can do for them. Like I would, let me see if I can find our old documentation task force page. I can't stand when I can't find stuff. Okay, I just go to search. So one of the things we did a few years ago in the learning materials working group, I'm not gonna find this, was go over what the document standards were for the community as it stands and the gentleman Ben who was working with us had done all of this amazing work as to what each one of the projects uses. And then he did a little tutorial on comparing the two. So what I would suggest you play with this week is the GitHub repository for Solang and see if you can run it through. I think this one is read the docs. This one might be make the docs. And he kind of then goes into how to do these, how to take the RST, how to kind of take the GitHub repository and make it into user guides. So either with read the docs or make the docs, I guess he gives you the read the docs tutorial here. So I'll drop this link in the chat for you. And if you want to see if you can take, I mean, that would be your first thing. So go to them and say, I looked at your GitHub repository. There's some paid tooling that Hyperledger offers us. One of them is read the docs. We can make your GitHub into user guides by doing this. They probably know that, that they can just take the repository and make the user guides. Actually they have their existing one. I'm also like LinkedIn in my wiki where I mentioned all the names of the tutorials. So yeah, they have an existing Solang. They just want it to be very, very user friendly. Like if someone who does not know even a bit of coding, they should understand what we are talking about and how Solang can be useful if they use it in their projects or anything. Yeah, exactly. Also three put, that's a lot of work that you have done. So if you need help, yeah, and a big clap for that. So if you need any help in doing the task or any kind of assistance, then let me know. Just ping me on LinkedIn and I will start helping you out with any of the tasks that you are currently taking. So don't take too much pressure. Yeah, just a little bit. Yeah, thanks. Yes, that was a lot of work. Thank you. So we're moving on. We're running out of time and I'll leave the room open for her if she wants to talk to the subgroups and start doing things for the presentation. Just why don't I have an edit button there. So we're going to move on with Nayan. Hi, I'm just lurking here. I'm from the ADC 16. I just want to see what the presentation team does. Awesome, we're just to cover it. We are working on getting standards in these areas for the community. So the Hyperledger community is getting a rebranding soon and we want to make sure that all of these things and all the community members such as the Aries group have access to everything Hyperledger has to offer. So thank you for coming. And again, we appreciate you're here and Agnes will be in touch with you. Thank you. And then last but not least Victoria, I'm going to start at the bottom next week. Hello, everyone. So nice to meet you all again. OK, so I chatted up Nico, not directly, but I chatted on the Firefly Discord server of if they need any documentation, right? Assistants need just as your access to do. So Nico, he responded so fast. I was shocked. He is awesome. Yeah, so we scheduled the meeting for today, but he had to schedule it tomorrow. So I'll be in touch. So I'm interested in the user guides. So yeah. Awesome. Awesome. Thank you so much. And let me just write this. OK. So again, we have time for our next deliverable, which isn't for at least two weeks. I'm going to leave the room open and I'm going to leave because I have to be somewhere. And if you want to start working on the presentation for the TOC, it will help you get organized as to figuring out what each of these sections deliverables are. So does anybody have any more questions for me before I head out? No. OK. I'm going to turn the meeting over to Runaba. And thank you, everyone, for all your hard work. I can't tell you how much I appreciate it. And have a great day. Sure. Thank you so much, Bobby. Thank you, Bobby. OK. So I think Bobby, ma'am, has left the meeting. So for all of you all, thank you so much for joining. And I think most of you all are joining the project calls currently and also getting to know that what are the documentation requirements. So as you know, Tripur has done an amazing job. So if any of you find any shortcomings or any gaps that they are facing the documentation, make sure to note it down in the wiki page. Because yeah, sure, you can stick around. No problem. So because we often listen to things and then we forget that what was the gap. So make sure that you note everything down on the wiki page. In that way, we all can know what are the calls that you all are joining also. I think all of you are managing college or school. And with that, you are doing all these things. So a big clap for that. I know it gets very difficult and hectic, especially during the exam time. So if any of you face any problems that you have your exams going on, you have too much pressure from college, feel free to let me know. Also, as Tripur has also listed down a lot of times. So if you need help with any of the tasks also, let me know. Like I'm more than happy to help all of you. So that's from my side. Yeah. And Akanksha, I hope all your questions were answered today. Yeah, I am much more clear now. I would expect him and us to be there in the meet today because he said one of them told, but he wasn't there. But I'll ask him again. But at least I will talk with one of my mentors that's a good thing. He has even created this channel for onboarding one. So I'm in a better place now. OK, so that's great. I think one thing that you can do for now is that in your wiki page, you can list down whatever you are doing, like joining the calls. You gave a great presentation the last week. So you can note that down as well. So whatever you are doing can just keep a track of that. OK, so wiki page that we created with our names, right? Yeah, yeah, with our names where we are just noting out whatever we are doing. So I think you can just do that for now, because then the mentors will tell you what you have to do for a specific project. OK, I'll do it. Yeah, yeah. That's not compulsory, but in case someone asks what you have been doing for the past few weeks, you can just say a few lines on that. So yeah. So if any of you have any questions, feel free to ask me on either on LinkedIn or you can send me through my email. And if any of you don't have any questions, then maybe we can end the meet. Ruput, do you want to ask anything? Yeah, actually, I was not present in the last meeting. So I don't know about the subsection and what Bobby has mentioned about subsection and subleads. I don't know what she was talking about. Can you brief me on that part? Yeah, sure. So we are working on as a part of the documentation task force. Each project has some documentation gaps that they need to fill up, right? Every project has and making documentation is an ongoing process. So we have mainly divided the task into five parts. One is best practices. One is GitHub. Another one is templates. Another one is onboarding. Another one is user guides. So these are the five areas of documentation that we will be working on. So the areas that you mentioned in the meeting were more related to the user guides part. So that's why Bobby wrote user guides there. So if you are interested in being a chair of, so the chair is the person who will lead everyone in that group. So for the best practices subgroup, there will be one chair. For the GitHub subgroup, there will be one chair. For the template subgroup, there will be one chair. For the onboarding, I think Akanksha is already selected as the LFX mentorship will be leading that. And for the user guides, we will be having one chair. So each of the chair will be managing all the activities for that particular documentation group. Does that make clear? Yeah. And how do we get into the, like, who will be selected as like a chair? How will we decide that? For now, we have not made any concrete decision on how we will be selecting, just that, you know, whoever is interested is letting us know in the meets that they are interested in being a chair for this committee and that committee. Maybe in the next meet, I have to ask, can there be two chairs or they should be only one chair? So yeah, depending on that, we will be assigning. For now, just, you know, whoever is interested in contributing to a particular group or being a chair of any group is just letting us know and starting to find out, like, let's say, if you're interested in, you know, leading the user guides group. So maybe, you know, for now you can find out what are the documentation gaps in the user guides in the project which you have already done. So that's what is going on for now. We have not selected the chairs yet. I hope that answers your question. Yeah. And do count me in for the chair name. And I hope to be part of it. Yeah. Yeah, sure. Also, I've been like, there are some, you know, category in which chair is not selected yet. Right? I would not like, in some of the categories or the chairs are selected for all of the five categories. I cannot understand what you are saying. I mean, like, are the sub-chairs selected for all the categories on voting and how can place and all? No, sub-chairs are not selected for any other category since you're already selected as an LFX mentee for the onboarding. So, and you are interested in here also. So you can lead that part. No, no, I'm not talking about my style. Like, Sripur wanted to, you know, volunteer some telling. Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She can volunteer for any of the roles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We will consider you for the user guides. So let's see in the next, next meet, like, let's see who are interested. Let's us know. And maybe then, you know, we can have Sripur for the user guides if she is interested in that. Yeah, totally in. Okay, okay, sure. Any more questions? No, that's all from my side. Okay, no problem. If any of you have any questions, you can, you know, text me anytime on LinkedIn. I keep on checking the messages. So yeah, that's it from my side. Have a great day, everyone. Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye, you do have a great week. Bye-bye.