 تشرف بالاشتغالي بالعلم ولا تبغي به ما عشت يا دا دا دا وياله من شراف عظيمي إن شاء الله تعالى نحن سوف نتحدث عن أسئلة الجدالية كما قلت من قبل هذا العلم يسمى علم الجدال يتبغي من شخص يتبغي من شخص يكلم شيء ومن شخص يتبغي من شخص يكلم شيء يتبغي من شخص يكلم شيء يقولون أن هناك عمل للسائل والسائل is the one who is basically opposing the one who is claiming and the one who is claiming is called a معلد ما نفعل إن شاء الله تعالى is we are going to speak about the pillars that the سؤال stands on so the pillar it stands on the سؤال الجدالية it stands on four pillars okay the first is أسائل a questioner one that's asking questions and the second one is المسؤول the one that's been questioned and the fourth is المسؤول عنه the third is and that's the evidence and the ruling that's been asked about and the fourth pillar is and the fourth one is the warnings that are used when questioning how you phrase your question those are the pillars it stands on okay those are the four pillars but the types in which the جداليين they divide the questions into it can be taken to five when the discussion is going on these are the pillars it stands on there's one who's been questioned there's the questioner he's questioning about the evidence and the ruling and the way he's putting his question forward are you with me brothers that's the pillars of how this dialogue is going on but the scholars they take it back to five types or five examples or five أسئلة five questions that he's allowed to ask basically these are the five questions that he puts forward the first question is عن المدهب he asks him about his مدهب what does it mean مدهب مدهب here means ما تقوله في كده what do you say about this when he says to him ما تقوله في كده what do you say about this particular issue or when he asks him ما حكمه هذه المسألة عندك what's the حكم of this issue to you that's the first one this is مدهب he wants to know your مدهب in this issue what do you believe the scholars they divide this into two this one they divide it into two in how he asks him about the مدهب they divide it into two the first way that he can ask him about his مدهب is what he says to him is you go to the individual and you say to them هله مدهبون في المسألة الفولانية do you have a do you hold an opinion in this particular issue are you with me brothers do you hold an opinion a مدهب in this particular issue for example he will say to him اختلف الفقه the scholars differed في حكم الزكات العلي the gold that the woman wears and she adorns herself with the scholars they differed وذا زكات is obligatory on it زخلاء some people the scholars they say it's like a clothes you don't pay a zakat from your clothes right some scholars they say no it's gold and it's money زكات has to be paid from it are you with me brothers زكات العلي the zakat of the gold of the woman which she wears is obligatory for her to pay zakat from it the scholars differed so you say to this individual that the scholars differed in زكات العلي فهلك مدهبون فيها do you hold an opinion regarding this issue او ما مدهبوك فيها what's your madhab regarding this that's the first question the second one which is in the first سؤال is you can say to him and you can say to him you're a humbly right and he says to ya I'm a humbly ما مدهب and you say to him اليمامو احمد has a story زكات العلي so before you were just wanting to know whether he holds an opinion in this issue he could say no I don't hold an opinion ليس لي مدهبون فيه ذلك he could say that to you but now I've restricted in the second point I said are you a humbly I said ya I'm a humbly now he can only choose something in these two because he's restricted because I brought him in by saying that he's a humbly is مقدمة الدليل I brought him in to the مدهب of محمد he's accepted that مقدمة that introduction I put forward he says نعم I accept that I'm a humbly you say that محمد has two rewires in this particular issue زكات العلي are you with me so which of the two do you take and which of the two do you have are you with me he's at this particular moment he can't say I don't have a مدهب in this particular issue are you with me he'll say to you I take this المقارب then the discussion opens then the discussion opens are you with me brothers that's the first question and those are the two ways that it can be asked if you're good at الجدل والمناظرة which one do you take from asking the مدهب you take the second one it's a sharper way of doing it then قدمة الدليل and you brought him in and now he's forced and he's obliged to respond to one of the two are you there because it's not going to look good for him to say I don't have a مدهب now because he didn't accept that he's got a مدهب right سلام المحمد I'm upon his مدهب the second question is عني الدليل the first question was the first question was عني المدهب right now you found that he's a مدهب now he told you that he believes for example he's taken up stance right now you say to him what's the الدليل the second question is عني الدليل what's your evidence the دليل here means ما دليلك على ترديح القولي الفلاميه what's your evidence in strengthening you with me what's your evidence in strengthening this opinion of his why did you strengthen the second opinion of him the other Rewire of him over the other Rewire why did you strengthen one over the other because you've just done ترجيح now and as they say لعلم الجدل ترجيح بغير مرجح is كتحكم dictatorship can't just come and randomly choose one opinion over the other so now that you've done ترجيح you've strengthened one opinion over the other opinion what's your دليل for that some scholars of جدل they don't believe this is a correct question others say that this is a question is a question that is صحيح it's correct and he's rightfully he's right to ask that question is it permissible for him to restrict him on the evidence we know that he can ask him for the evidence but is it permissible for him to restrict him on the evidence ما دليل كم من القرآن and see evidence from the Qur'an على هذه المسألة is it permissible the scholars of جدل they say لا يصفعوا لسائل أن يطالب المسؤولة لتعيني نوع الدليل it's not permissible for him to restrict him to a particular دليل it's incorrect you can't tell me to bring it from the Qur'an only nor can you force me to get it you can't and one evidence should be enough for me you can't restrict me on the amount of evidence that I have to bring as well so you can't restrict me on نوعية الدليل the type of evidence that I bring you can't restrict me on عدد الدليل the amount of the evidence that I have to bring forward you can't one evidence is enough for me to bring are you with me he can't so if you're debating with a Hanafi and your evidence is مفهوم المخالفة for instance and you use it to establish a proof against him so he brings his evidence and then what you do is you demolish his evidence with a مفهوم المخالفة he can look at you as a Hanafi and say مفهوم المخالفة as a Hanaf the Hanafis he has no huger for us you've not brought anything to me personally you can believe it if you wish to I can't restrict you to what evidence you can take it makes sense and you can't force me on the evidence of taking مفهوم المخالفة as a Hanja does that make sense are you with me brothers in other words that's an evidence I call it to the Imam جدل this is not an evidence that you brought so far to him for him you haven't brought him an evidence yet especially if he's a what he's a معلل he brought you an evidence shake up from the Quran of the sunnah he brought you an evidence and then you want to oppose his evidence you want to do معرض of his evidence with a مفهوم المخالفة for him you have not brought any معرض yet the third question that then you ask is so you ask him about his manhap he's told you what view he's taken then you ask him about his evidence then he's told you where his evidence he's got it from which opinion he's strengthened or why he's strengthened the opinion now you ask him and how do you get the evidence from the deal you brought it's called what you've done the third question that you ask him is عن وجد دلالة you ask him you brought to me an evidence how have you extracted from this evidence yeah how have you extracted it from this evidence that the زكات للحلي it's obligatory it's obligatory that you have to pay زكات from it are you with me brothers and he said to you my evidence before as I told you was what قوله تعالى والذين يكنيزون الدهب والفضة ولا ينفخونها في سبيل الله فبشرهم بعداب اليم now is his evidence صورة التوبة آية 34 this is what he brought forward so you now say to him how have you extracted that آية to pay the زكات زكات للحلي when did you get it from this آية and he says to you الله says in the verse والذين يكنيزون قولوز in the Arabic language means when you want when you keep something you treasure it it's not used then Allah says ولا ينفخونها then that person does not give from it في سبيل الله فبشرهم give him glad tidings بعداب اليم a severe punishment so this here is my evidence and what you did that is as I told you are you there my watch of the lala is that's my watch of the lala very good then you ask him the fourth question which is صحة الدليل you've asked him about how he extracted the ruling from it then you ask him the authentication and the authenticity of the evidence is it even authentic what you've just brought forward to me you ask him about صحة الدليل whether this is authentic is it صحيح is it authentically transmitted if when he brings it to you and he tells you it if it's an ayah from the Quran then لا شك ولا ريب and it's from the qaraat which is considered and it's not a qaraat which is shad even the qaraat is shad can a hukum fiqi be taken from it the answer is yes you can't take a hukum fiqi from it some of the ulama they say the qaraat which is shad is even stronger than a hadith which is a hadith which is some scholars said it even though it's a qaraat which is shad some scholars said no it's equal to a khabar which is أحد but the scholars they take أحكام فقهية rulings of fiq from qaraat which is shad right they do and it's definitely stronger it's an opinion of a scholar by the way so for me to be a qaraat which is shad it's stronger than the qawla بما محمد وشاة فعيه and others if what they're saying is just mere statement the fifth is وجه القدح في الدليل the way to critique and demolish the evidence that they brought forward so you say to the person الدليل الذي أوردته that the delirium that you brought forward للتصحيح مدهبكة to strengthen your opinion دليل الله يسحر لك لستدلاله بهي it's an evidence which you're not permitted to use it's incorrect and then you bring your argument why you think that's incorrect so what we realize is that the أسئلة the questions it goes back to إلى منعن رجاكشن ومعارضة or opposition or naklin or transmission are you with me brothers and this is وجه القدح في الدليل or we'll be speaking about it in details maybe if today we've got time and if we don't if we don't then insha'Allah we'll mention it in the أهداب البحث والمناظرة written by طاش كبري زاد رحمه الله but what is it that the أسئلة now once that you've brought all your points forward the way I have to deal with it is منع منع is that I I don't accept it and I claim I now they claim عدمو صحة الدليل دلالة الدليل I say no what you've used the دلالة and the دليل are not together so the evidence that you're using and how you're extracting the ruling are not related are you with me but the scholars of جدل they say منع which is to reject cannot be just merely done it can only be done when the person who you're arguing with doesn't bring an evidence then your منع can stand you can reject I don't accept that because it's your your speech is not more valuable than my one right are you with me brothers but if the person he brought our evidence forward منع is not enough منع is just when he's upon دعوة just claim when he's just claiming something معارضة أن دلالة are you with me brothers is what you need to come with when he brings an evidence معارضة أن دلالة it's basically opposition دليل with another دليل مقابلة دليل بدليل so I can't do منع if he brings evidence what I can do is what it's called مقابلة I can oppose him and bring evidence like that are you with me brothers there are conditions in the شروط صحة السؤال a question will not be accepted brothers unless there are some conditions that are intact you ask in this question are you with me brothers if these things are not there then your question your point coming with this this question is not valid the first one is you have to have good intention behind why you're doing it if I felt like you've got a hidden motive it's to walk away from the discussion at hand are you there if I know that the person is coming from the angle of a تعنوتي والعناد stubbornness and hardheadedness then I don't accept this discussion to carry on between me and you if the person is asking the question if the person is asking the question على جهة التلاعب والعبث he's playing and he's mocking and he's joking and he's then I have the right to just say I don't consider your question to be valid the idea of your question the second condition is أن يقول السؤال that your question is عن أمر يقول خفاءه أمن أمور الواضحة الجالية فإن السؤال عنها تضيع للوقتي that your question has to be based on a matter which can be hidden you may not see it in other words you're asking me we're discussing about something that is hidden that not every eye can see you shouldn't ask me about something that's out there in the open that everybody knows I won't make that into a discussion as the poet said وليس يصحف الأدهاني شيء إلى حتاج النهار أو إلى دليل it is not befitting for the mind if I would have to bring evidence for the day that's something you ask me is it day I shouldn't entertain that idea I shouldn't speak about that that's من الأمور الضرورية that I know out of necessity if a person says to you does this universe exist and if a person says to you his Adam عليه الصلاة والسلام the father of us or he asks you is there a place called China in the world and I just have a dialogue regarding that or is there a Mecca in the world that's something you don't entertain and a dialogue shouldn't happen in a matter which is what من الأمور الواضحة الجلية because that falls under ترضيع الوقت is wasting time there's no benefit in it and shouldn't be spoken about anyways the third condition is the form in which the question is presented أن يكون سؤال واضحة في إرسيغاته it has to be clear in its form ليعتماك كلل المستدل من فهمه so I as an individual was listening to you the objection that you're bringing forward which is now you're objecting against me the question that you want to put against me I'll put my I'll put my foundation in place I'll put my claim you now want to reject so what you need to do is you need to bring your point across very clear so I know the intent behind it so then when I respond to you I'm able to respond to something which I've understood somebody will come up to you and you'll say to you listen they'll deceive you this is deception in the way they ask you they'll say to you هاليل حج يمكن حج become corrupted بفعل محبوراتي في متابكة in doing things that are prohibited according to your method you'll say to him that's deception what you're doing here right now they're trying to deceive the people are you with me brothers don't let that question fall through to you somebody will ask you and say to you according to you according according to you if a person comes with a prohibited act in Hajj will that corrupt his Hajj you shouldn't say yes or no to that rather say to him that's deception the reason is because there are prohibited things in Hajj that corrupt by consensus كالجماع for instance sexual intercourse and there are also things that are done in Hajj that are prohibited from the محبورات but they don't like if a person wears cotton for instance or if a person places something over their head or if the person cuts their nails and the likes of this no they don't break your Hajj does that make sense but he asked me a question in a way where it wasn't clear what he meant by it so you don't entertain that you have to break it and narrow it down to what he exactly means if you answer that question with a yes and you are only thinking about جماع you've deceived everybody else and then that debate goes against you through the whole of thee so you have to do تفصيل for immolting each man when a person comes with a very generic and a very general point and it's not just like that you need to say are you with me that there are some things that do so and there are things that don't you need to do تفصيل are you with me brothers number 4 the fourth one is that the question المسؤول العنو the thing that the person is asking you about it's possible for you to come to know about it it's something that knowledge can be brought up regarding it it has to be from those things but if somebody asks you about anything that no one can come to know it's knowledge then it's not permissible to answer for example the things that we will say it's تأثر الله بعلمها الله is unique in it's knowledge no one else knows except him for example somebody will say to you أنتم تقولون بأن لي الله يديني you guys claim that Allah has two hands okay فكيف يدعو how are he his two hands we say to him هذا سؤال الفاسد that is a question that is none avoid are you there so you can turn the table at that person and you say to him do you affirm that there are stars in the sky and he'll say to you yes so how many stars are in the sky صح how many stars are in there he'll say I don't know well I don't know as well مستأثر الله بعلمها are you with me so not just because everything you affirm that doesn't mean you necessarily know the how to it are you with me so no one can say to you come added in the jungle in the summer that's a question which is fast corrupt that's not a question are you with me or somebody says to you you affirm rain right how many rain drops drop on the UK are you there no one asked you somebody says to you you believe you got hair right yeah how many hairs do you have صح all of these are calls which is fast and you don't entertain those kind of questions and they're not a question those kind of questions are not correct so to say how is Allah it's also the same are you with me brothers the fifth which is أن يقول المسؤول مختصا في مسؤول العن this person who's been asked this question has to be specific has to be has to specialize in this particular field has to be something he knows he can't be something he has no knowledge of are you there for example that person you can't come to a a jurist and ask him about matters pertaining to medicine and doctors you don't that's not his job you don't ask him this question is directed at another type of people you can't go and ask an engineer about any scientific things right you can't ask him of it number sixth which is the final أن يقول لسائل فائدة من هذا السؤال there has to be a benefit for the question not in this question if there's no benefit in this question for him then I shouldn't respond to your question so the مسائل which scholars call التي لا تحتها there's no benefit under talking about it are you with me then people shouldn't ask those type of questions shouldn't be in a dialogue for example if we find out that the people of CAF they had a dog with them right so finding out what type of dog they had with them was it a German Shepherd was it a Chihuahua we don't need to know what type of dog is are you going to take benefits from it are you going to take a benefit from it ya is it going to increase your Eman nothing, no benefits I don't need to know that صح so people sometimes want to find out about things that if knowledge regarding it increases there's no benefits in it for them so you ask about a matter which there's a benefit in it for you so if you ask me about something there's no benefit in it there's no value he mentions that some of the tribe what happens to the students of knowledge is that they busy themselves with transmitting speeches and views of scholars أقوال العلماء فلان said this فلان came and said this so he brings all the views of this issue أقوال فلان said this فلان said this when he brings all the أقوال if you ask him which one is the strongest what's the evidence of every party he doesn't know anything regarding it and if you mention that the aspiration of a student of knowledge it should be what معرفة مراد الله to know what Allah intends and that which the messenger intended by what he said your aspiration should be what did Allah mean and what did the messenger عليه الصلاة والسلام mean in this particular issue are you with me brothers but for wanting to know the speeches of the scholars how much views there in this particular matter are you with me this without a shadow of a doubt is what this without a shadow of a doubt is a false under the question questions what benefit did you gain now nothing okay now if you memorize all the views that are there and you memorize each view what they brought forward and what was the reason behind it and then you learn how to strengthen one opinion over the other that's true me you came up with a you came up with some foods and benefits right but anything that doesn't have no food that come out of it you're just wasting your time and your brothers time is of high value for you as a student of knowledge you ain't going to get this opportunity again so right now you need to just busy yourself with what that's why the poet said you're going to live for a thousand years you're going to live for a thousand years and even those who did couldn't be able to grasp all of knowledge you're still dying there's more that you haven't learned yet so you don't go off track when it comes to seeking knowledge you take what's fundamental first and at the time your life still carries on and you start to learn and you start to learn at the time your life still carries on and you've taken a great portion of the fundamentals then you move on to the those which are in the second and then those that come third but if your time is your life is so short you don't know things which are you don't know you don't know you're talking about half of football what's more important for you I don't know what what means what does what does what is and knowing other things like that and this is this is an example so this shows that this person doesn't know the only the order and the sequencing which knowledge should be okay today we'll conclude here by God's will سوف نتوقف هنا و الآخرين سوف نتوقف للمنزل المنزل إن شاء الله و تعالى tomorrow المنزل سيأتي أيضاً سوف ننتهي ربما يمكننا 9.30 يوم أيضاً سوف ننتهي سوف نتأتي أكثر من 2-3 ساعة سوف ننتهي في tomorrow إن شاء الله و تعالى الكثير من المنزل المنزل يجب أن نحن now يجب أن نتكلم المنزل و كيف سيكون و لدينا جميل اليوم إن شاء الله و تعالى سوف نتوقف للمنزل المنزل و سوف نتوقف للمنزل المنزل أي شيء الذي قلت أنه مفتاح و أنه كان مفتاح من الشيطان و أنه يجب أن نتوقف منه سبحانك الله و بحمدك أشدو الله