 We're going to do the BoF wrap up for the very first Academy Day of 2017. We've had lots and lots and lots of BoFs, so I'm going to call you up one at a time about each BoF session to put someone right here on your spot to tell us all what you've achieved or what you've decided or maybe that you sat around and enjoyed the air conditioning. It's not in Room 2.5. I'm going to start with the BoFs from Room 2.2. Anu is not here. Playing with an amalgam of Q-Melt and Javascript. Anyone here? There's John, he can help me. So we had a workshop and there were half a dozen of us there and Anu and Vasadu showed us their work with Q-Melt which was on Rakuula, the new chat application and they gave everybody a bit of an introduction to Q-Melt and I started off on a bit of Q-Melt for the installer which will be added into Calamaris which Yeng wants us to have which gives us a first run set up installer experience which I'm very skeptical about but it's fun to play with in Q-Melt. He's not here? Did everyone remember to check their egos at the door before it's back off? Man, you were everywhere. So Cal gave a talk the other day which nearly ended up in a fist fight to the death about how we introduced people to particular products through their initial web pages and so he was doing a similar exercise and we looked at kitty.org and whether or not that actually gives useful messages to the people who would go to kitty.org and we compared it to mozilla.org in a couple of other places and so they were all a bit rubbish but mozilla.org was less rubbish than us and that we should learn stuff from other places like Amateur and we came to ensure that we were actually marketing stuff in a way that talks to the people that we should talk to. They know to get back to you. And next to say yes to Gabriela Ponzo and Mozilla Office. Gabriela. We just have a presentation about our community and the foundation, the Doctoral Foundation which is behind the Project Liberal Office and how to become a member of the foundation being a member of the community obviously and why to be a member of the Doctoral Foundation or to drive the governance of the foundation to vert or to beverted and more or less that's it and I hope to be able to have many new members in our community and hopefully in our foundation maybe among you as well. Thank you. Give us a minute while. As I mainly focus on promoting the ODF, I want and I see a chance to promote KD. Also recently the FSFE has a command about public administration so we discussed the idea about how about to improve any different free-sovereign communities together to provide a total solution for public administration so that when we communicate with our government we have a solution there even when there is a community supporting the area so that it would be easier or would be more possible to make our government open and free-sovereign so we discussed some problem of this maybe I hope that including KD, including TDI for the Mozilla more common source with our community can join together to make this solution available. Which looks like it. It was possible all day. It was a good morning all the time. You need to stand there. Pushan, please. So we had our last month with them so a few days before the economy we finalized our platform business. So... Let's wait for him. We discussed how can we have the other communities who are working on mobile technologies mobile on, genus, renex on mobile devices already for example in the pre-code selfish ways and we also discussed topics about convergence and later on David had a topic about unifying our QML inputs or that he can present those topics. So the afternoon was very technical talk we have a lot of the frameworks that have gone a bit mouldy because when we were written we didn't have QQ controls too we didn't have Q gadgets and we didn't have curagami so all of the QML intervals across partner and creative narrative have ended up in slightly secure places we now have a plan of where everything is going to eventually end up so clean and vol was assigned to all of the different parts and a bit of slaying is going to happen we come up with a list of things we need to do in QQ to make QQ controls to actually work for us and move forward with that after that we have talked about open QA with Hull who's what? who's prepared yes, absolutely so we talked about open QA which is a lovely QA solution made by our friends at SUSE and having done a lot of work in the area of integration of acceptance, testing I've come to the conclusion and we've sort of agreed on that that open QA can be part of the solution but it's not going to solve all our problems in fact what we want is a two-prong approach it's open QA for the asserting the visual state of something and accessibility testing to test the functionalities and I think that should be a good solution and that should be really awesome and the question is moving forward yes, the second liberal I had a second talk with Cisco Fawli and it was about the announcement of the 5.4 liberal office version which will be released within two days and we just made the announcement you know, once for you comments soon for me for you and by the way we just show have shown the most new features coming with this new version and a little bit more of a question application developer story a proper story of all the rules starting with frameworks on the way to new apps and looking at the make-installed problem how we can solve it that should be pretty much under control for most cases now it's just about to do the actual work and we've also been looking a bit more at Conan and how we could fit all helping new developers to join and automatically getting the dependencies they need to work on to make that path easier and shortly that's not strictly in the meeting but shortly after us meeting Frederic actually did a prototype of that so we have K Archive which has been a package for Conan the first one and he did a small prototype just a simple app using K Archive and bring that from Conan so that's up to you who thought yeah, so we touched a few topics which have been often the translation community for a while and well known even in the past academies and which unfortunately are not easy to fit without much manpower but at least we identified with things we should do related to the website online translation but that's something which would come later to the structure of the files to the structure of the files on the repository on the usage of Cosami to simplify the life of the translator and few things are interconnected and we have like at least two or three years of work for many people but we will try to make it work somehow and if you would like to have something to contribute in biting just to change a bit from C++ just contact us and our team and the KDE Automotive let's go hosts talk ok, so after my lightning talk yesterday the first question that needed to be solved today is their interest in approaching the automotive sector the conclusion of the both is yes the second one is can we do something credible in a fairly short period of time so we explore their three lines of work one of them seems very feasible the only two weeks to be analyzed in the quick weeks the good news is that there are people that can do that and that is willing to do that so probably in a few weeks we will be able to say if we can do something in the short term that good enough to approach and explore the environments that are out there now becoming popular fine on the schedule let's welcome our very long and evil overlord Lydia to tell us the reason of our evil overlord tonight they got a number of ideas and today without the help of whom we are trying to discuss these ideas more details and one of them was the idea of changing the format of the General Assembly by moving out of the General Assembly all of the reports from the working groups basically all the stuff that happens in the working group is not it doesn't have to be private to the EV it could be part of the academy and be part of the presentation so that people can more easily first know what's happening and also possibly join these efforts a possible side effect of that might be that the assembly becomes short enough a day than the fine day before the weekend it could then become something for the morning maybe that still has to be checked whether it's actually possible but at least the idea of making things more public sounds like a good step for me after that we discussed a number of things that might help lowering the barrier of entry not talking about the development story but more about the community and so there isn't like a one magic idea in that respect but it was one of the things that came out was we learned that there is this possibility in so to fix the problem of huge threats for instance on the e-mailing list where everyone feels like they have to contribute even to say not much of substance the idea was that it seems to be possible with mailman to have the plus one minus one type feature on e-mails no idea how that works but apparently it's possible to say I agree or I disagree with that in detail and a number of other ideas the ideas like as you might know or not the ED board has in the past already said that something they call office hours like we are available to answer to your questions so that's already something that exists but the idea was put forward that possibly working groups could do the same and try to be available for more public communication and other ideas like that now the third thing is the most important and I think we discussed a lot about the idea of the community together setting up goalposts as in directions we want to go forward to in the next mailman 2 and the idea of that is to have a system that can submit ideas and say I think we should go in that direction I think we should work on the developer story if possible things that are sort of across the board rather than we should work on one feature in one application and these ideas will be collected and then submitted to a vote by the whole set of contributors we are not talking about the ED anymore this is about all the contributors possibly even all the users and the idea was put forward to basically have the two set of people voting and we can check what it is we want to work on and what it is all the people would like us to work on and see if there is anything that would even work for both ideally so the idea of the vote there is to let people sort this idea by preference it's not about picking one thing it's more about setting some things as having more priority than others and then if we collect all of that together we can say okay for the next year we will have these two or three proposals that have been sort of accepted by the community and what that actually means is that the people who have submitted this and the idea was not one person but more like a group of three or four developers who are interested in that and they because their idea has been accepted they will have the opportunity to put a sprint around that idea and they will also get a slot for a presentation where they can present the current status of that project and possibly get more people to vote so yeah it's a bit of a revolutionary idea everyone in the room seems to agree it's a good idea but of course the next step is to take this time to repeat the community meeting list and see what other people think about it and some discussion in a wider forum with this whole idea but of course this is not that you know we're not turning KD into a company where if you can do what you're told then you're at, this is not at all about that I see it more as a way to instead of everyone walking on their own little thing in their own side though sort of having a way to brainstorm ideas and then once we pick a few ideas, have people run your code and work together on something which gives us a bit more direction and purpose than you know, be hacking on this because it seems fun but nobody can't, right? It's all about having this common brainstorming towards common goals which in my opinion used to happen when we were 30 people in 2003 meeting at a KD meeting which wasn't academic, it wasn't presentation so we were just going to a room and talk about the most important things but now you can't do that with 500 people so what we do is let's do it over the internet have a vote, make it a bit more structured and pick the things that we are interested in for the next year and then we evaluate of course and tomorrow we are going to walk the castle after the loft wrap up tomorrow there will be the opportunity to go to Alcazaba here in Almedia and see the fortress if you're an EU citizen bring your passport because that is free yeah turn rubber head