 with your husband, too, but why did you feel good about Sam choosing Purdue and coming here? I felt really good about Sam choosing Purdue because I know that he's going to have a great experience there. Everything that the campus and the school have to offer academically are going to set him up for success in life, regardless of what he decides to pursue, but um, you know, I just feel great that that he's he's he's right on the best path that we could have possibly hoped for him to be able to achieve his goals and do what he wants to do beyond college. So I think they have the good blend of you know funding, but it's the same team that academic rigor is also comes through. You can see the you know students out there and how they go about in the campus. So all those things really played into it. And was there anything within the admissions experience and process that really stuck out to you guys as parents? The campus itself, right, was the compound effect. You just walk around and you feel like the way they are organizing the the tours, that was like pretty top notch, right? Like I think the kids were doing a great job. And talk about the first time that you went to Purdue's campus with Kayla, what did what were your first impressions? And for me, I was very much so impressed. I was impressed with the look and the layout of the campus. It appeared that the culture was very friendly and welcoming. Having him get the chance to be a part of one of those prospective student tours, have a current student walk around and talk about the campus and talk about the experience of being there. I think that makes such a difference. So looking back on it, you know, it's you're an interesting story because Kayla wanted to go to Purdue for a long time. But if you had to give other parents advice, you said you work in higher ed. What kind of advice would you give them as they're going through this admissions process with their students? My best advice to parents is definitely utilize the worldwide whip to their advantage, right? Because everything is at your fingertips. You can look up a college campus, you can see even the map of the campus, you can see even their graduation rates. I just would say just do your research, look at it, right? And see what they offer that's going to best support your your child. What would you tell other parents who are going through that with their students right now? I think you have to do your due diligence, right? You need to go to the website. There are so many resources that Purdue has put out there. I think one of the best, I think the best communications and I think the way Purdue puts it out there in time proactively. And they've thought through every aspect of typical bench would consider the safety, the rigor, the COVID protocols, especially during this time and what kind of measures you're taking. So all of that stuff plus the the resources that are available for students, the videos and the alumni thing, the mix of everything. You know when you look back at Sam and all the different colleges he was looking to, what advice would you give for other parents about you know what how to help them, how to help their child with that college search and choosing the right college for them? Enjoy the process. I think know your student, that's important, right? Every kid is different and likely to approach that decision in a different way. So you know recognize how you can support and help them through that decision but you know trust that they've got to make that decision and kind of in some ways figure this out on their own to some extent. It's it can be a time that's filled with a lot of anxiety or apprehension because there's so much unknown and so much new information coming at you and coming at your student but you know be patient through that and trust that just trust the process it works. Ultimately it's the student's decision of course but when parents are trying to help find that home for their students do you have any advice when it comes to that? Just have to trust that your child's choices right and when they get there but again making sure that those resources are there to help your child thrive and walking away with a good feeling and and I know the Purdue offers that right and so for me Kayla Owens is my only daughter, my only child right and so I am trusting Purdue University with my daughter and I feel pretty good every single night knowing that she's in good hands she's around good people there's great resources there and this was the college of her dreams and the college of her dreams chose her in return and that for me is the best thing and the only thing that I could ever want it for my daughter.