 Tom here from Warren Systems and today is September 28th, 2022 yesterday. TrueNAS scale was released version 22.02.4 now I did a review of 22.02.3, which is linked down below and this is only a point released So there's not any major changes. We will get to the change on shortly But for the most part it doesn't really address all the different issues that I brought up in there So that video is still relevant one thing I'm going to add in this particular video is I tested a virtualization hoping a bridging bug was fixed with the interface But that bug has not been fixed It was actually first brought to my attention when Wendell did his video which I referenced in the other video as well Talking about TrueNAS scale and setting up portainer and virtualization But let's jump right into the changelog here now as I said point release So there's not a long list of new features But one of them that really caught my eye that was interesting is StoreJ. Now StoreJ is a newer at least new to me product that is out there doing Distributed storage that also allows you to participate in the distributed storage So you can buy storage services and the back end is built on well many people Offering services that can tie right into your TrueNAS where you set up basically a Storage pool that you get paid for hosting by the way because it's a two-way street here I have not really dove deep into it But it just was interesting that they can use it as a storage service or you can participate in the collective of People who want to get paid for the extra storage they have on there So interesting nonetheless something I'm going to look into at a futures But if you have some thoughts or Concerns with it leave them down in the comments below so I can kind of get a better understanding for someone Who's maybe already done a lot more testing with it now in terms of bug fixes. That's where wow They spent a lot of time fixing bugs, which is great. That's what we like to see So I won't really have time or this video would be forever long If I read through each of these none of them were a particular issue that I had brought up though in my other video But I will address the next issue and that is this one right here I did mention in a video that TrueNAS scale crashes when Postgres backup volume option is selected and in Tom's recent video Was referenced here and I actually posted earlier today that setting these settings for the host path if you set it to WWE data for the next cloud data volume set and 999 colon Docker permissions for the Postgres data Path that seems to stop the issue from happening But one thing let's just talk about very directly with this and that is next cloud itself and the way it's implemented on there That still has not been Addressed so to speak what I mean by that is we offer support So that little spiel I do where I say hey you can hire us well lots of people reach out and hire us Unfortunately when people reach out and hire us is because they have sometimes are in an emergency situation where they lost data So I do these videos and talk about the status of a project because I think it's wonderful That you can do a few clicks and deploy a Docker image and have this up and running and next cloud done in a matter of minutes And then people stop there and start using it if they don't have a Process by which to restore in the case of data loss or properly implement backups well, they end up in trouble and sometimes reach out in a Point of desperation where they have either lost lots of data or don't know how to restore it or didn't realize just how complicated the restore Process is and still at present. It's not impossible to restore So if you backed up your data to the first part and then you backed up your Postgres database now you have the two components But you don't have an easy way just to revert them because ideally the way Docker images should work is are essentially Stateless there is no data should be saved in there and you just point them back at their configuration files So they're easily replaced but the Example I gave being that syncing does this properly and Docker does not and I referenced that in my last video Well, not Docker, but specifically the next cloud Implementation of Docker the way it works in ix systems deployment of this and I've seen some debates where people say well This is Docker's problem not true NASA's problem people should just know where their data is Well, I think the responsibility comes to the community. It's an open-source project here We want to make something easily accessible to people We want to make it easy for them to set up because this will bring in more users But we don't want to make it so it's so easy and not easy to back up and restore because then people get a bad taste For these products going well I may as well just use some cloud service because at least my data didn't just randomly disappear I know that cloud services are not bulletproofing. Yes data can disappear in a cloud as well My own process of testing is hey once I build it I see how it can be rebuilt and maintain my data if I can't maintain my data I look at why and start working through so I have an instruction so before I start using a product I know fully from start to finish that I know I can build it I know I can rebuild it and I can safely back up and have Good integrity of all the data within it. That's just my thoughts on that I'll leave your comments down below if you think I'm a little off base on here I'm not trying to tell anyone not to use it I'm just trying to sell people make sure you understand how you're using it and how you can secure your data now This system I'm using right here that is running to your nascale 22.0 2.4 is where this video is being edited on or edited past tense I guess by time you're watching it But this is what is storing all of my videos and working quite well I don't really have any issues with it including up to this new version So all the testing's gone fine. I've updated a few systems in our lab and I guess this one I can call production It only interrupts Tom's video production if it doesn't work. So nonetheless, I'm trusting it enough that I don't have a problem doing the updates But let's talk about the Virtualization now, I did not even mention it in the last videos. I just hadn't done any testing But I have now decided to go ahead and spin up in a bunch to VM Which was easy so some future videos be coming on how it works and what does or doesn't work in terms of the overall Feature set it has but this is one thing that is definitely an issue that I want to address That is the way the network bridging is handled for the virtualization Now Wendell mentioned this in this video and this is something I was hope would be fixed But this is obviously where I kind of have a problem because this is why you want to run a virtualization system on your NAS because you want your Virtualization your virtual machines or even your Docker images to be near and close to the storage and not have to loop Out through the network. This gives you really fast access Let's look at the virtualization how this works now. I've tried it with a bridge just so I've done through all the different options here Here's a bridge that includes this particular adapter E and P to s o4f and even using it in a bridge mode here does not solve the problem of Note though if you're wondering why there's a 192 address and 172 addresses over here That's because if you assign interfaces and even bridges and you do not assign an IP address They simply don't work at all now the virtualization that I attach to the virtual machine will pull from the network Without regard to whatever different subnet this is on because it really matters what it's physically plugged into because it's creating a separate MAC address on there so the E and P to s is at 172 16 16 205 so we're gonna remember that IP address and this is the other one is actually the management interface from logged into at 16 16 5 and we're gonna go over here our virtualization We're gonna expand it out and let's go ahead and look at the devices and look at the networking And I've tried it with both currently it's set to the Bridge network right here is where it's at But even if you set it to this network the problem will persist and that is this problem here We're gonna go and this is the Ubuntu server and we do IPA And you can see it has the same IP address range of one seven two sixteen sixteen seventeen Which means I should be able to ping one seven two sixteen sixteen dot five And I can pings perfectly fine, but it's attached to that bridge interface where 205 exists You can't ping 205 and this is where that problem comes in Each interface you attach it to doesn't properly loop back So I can't talk to the NAS when I'm talking to the NAS at the dot five address the other IP address attached to it It's leaving the network going out to the switch that connects these together and coming back in over here That is less than ideal because well that creates different limitations and obviously requires that you have multiple network cards Which is not an unachievable thing in there Wendell has to work around how to get the bridging set back up and working But it kind of is a minor aggravation with the virtualization because ideally I want to run my virtual machine And maybe have it directly attached to the storage So the virtual machine and the storage are very close to each other as in maybe if I want to run some Dedicated virtual logging server on there that heavy IO access So I don't need it looping out of the network and coming back It's best to begin access quickly through the network So my virtual machine status is separate from my storage status and they have really fast access at the Kernel level implementation as opposed to running it out of one network card and back into the other And that's really all I have for the dot for update Reference my other video for that more in-depth talk I did about all the other features But I didn't really run into any gotchas with a few systems upgraded everything seems to be working perfectly smooth The upgrade didn't take any particular long amount of time Nonetheless, I'm excited and don't see any reason people shouldn't upgrade to this I want to encourage more people to use TrueNAS scale that have been curious about it and myself I've been diving into every little detail because that's how I eventually create the content tutorials and videos is by Working towards all of this and I actually had talked to some of the people and specifically over at TrueCharts I'll probably do a separate video on TrueCharts It's an extra set of application catalog that you can load into TrueNAS scale And they're working on creating more documentation on you know, how to do some of these things because it's not just maintaining all the Application list it's also that documentation on how to set them up how to configure them and most importantly how to restore them in a very Predictable way so as I'm diving into creating content around here I'm encouraging others that you know if you have the skill to write this documentation Hey, I'll probably read it on my channel if you take the time to write it up So I don't have to sit down and come up with it myself. So I encourage more people to test scale It's definitely where IX system is putting a lot of effort and hey I'm looking forward to the next release and I do have one system I am loading up with the new I believe it's called Blufin version that is in beta right now So this is referred to as the stable release the angel fish and then blue fin being the next one So I'll do some testing with that soon and maybe you know, I'll test one of my production systems Well my video production system specifically with it and see how well that goes because I know that slated I believe later this year they should have that into out of the beta phase I should say and we'll be doing some migrations to that Nonetheless leave your comments down below links to the things I talked about and the course Wendell's video where he talks about You know doing things in fortainer have fun setting up your homelab have fun setting all this up It's a fun learning process for sure. 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