 if you won't shut us off from Perk Street next year then. King of it. Only in the Sprint. Yeah, you're right. But only in the Sprint, yeah. Because we just don't want to keep adding another road to the list. No, see, that's a federal country road. So there is different dollars to find. Right. It's just to find. But I just know that if you all of a sudden take log trucks, you take what came out of Cooper and run up there, you know, and put that on Perk Street, you wouldn't have a road. You just, I talked to the loggers and sent them out to Corey Hill. You're right. I understand. Only they're decent about it. Yeah, right. And those guys at Larry Strauss' were good about it. That's why Corey Hill's got all the bumps on it today. So this leads right into your question about pulling logs out for your property. Yeah, I'm stuck in the middle. Larry's going to cut them. Yeah, we'll cut them. Why'd you cut them? I couldn't let you eat and take the taxi. And it's getting down to the light. I've got to get my logs out of there before the mill shuts down. Strip down the Perk, Mike. Yeah. I've got to get up to Essex. And he can't go up over about the mountain so he ain't on the dirt road. The job calls him, doesn't it? Yeah. He called last week. Did he get a load? No, he said he couldn't help. I told him he couldn't. Friday morning. Well, he told me that he couldn't help. Yeah, because he called. He couldn't help today, too, because of the, you know. I called. My landing gets muddy and I have to shut down anyway, but it's frozen. I've got to get my logs out of there. Last year they wouldn't take anything after July 4th when they shut down. So when did they shut down the mill? It seems they're getting filled back. Because it's still February. It should cool off a little bit more. I don't think it's quite spring yet. Yeah, but I talked to them last week and they're getting filled back. So I've got to get my logs out of there. It's tomorrow morning. It'll be frozen tonight. Well, he ain't going to hold those loads to about five load there. And that's my living. Yeah. I understand, you know, the dirt road should take it hard, but that is the black top. And it might even help the black top if he did how long there is. Well, they wouldn't do it all. It's like saying, hey, I'm going to take your paycheck for the next month or two. Can that over so that it has more by permission? That way you're monitoring. Well, he can go from his place over the mountain just to North Hollow. Right. The other doesn't come down. Right. Yeah, because he called Wednesday and said don't do it Thursday, but Friday morning, all the way. Someone is carnivaling. You really need Middle Hollow. No, North Hollow starts it. Definitely not. Okay. Then it becomes Middle Hollow. Right, yeah. North Hollow takes the right middle. That takes the right middle. Yes. It's really how they labeled it. It really is. I'm on middle for half an hour. So can I just ask you, excuse me, Mike, are you saying you want to be able to move your logs down Bethel Mountain into the village or am I confused? No, I kind of get them to the mill in Essex. The mill in Essex, okay. Yes. And where would you go? How would you get, you wouldn't go down Bethel Mountain Road? You'd have to, because you can't go down the road. But I'll go over the mountain, right? Right. Yeah. That's the way Rodney has to go. Up and over. Up and over. Right. Yeah. I'd just like to get them logs off the land. I can't believe if he'd done it this week, there's still frost in the ground tall. Yes, there is. Yeah. You know, the longer you wait, the worse it's going to be. Yeah. So it's, I mean, how quick can you get on it? The world mornin'. That's the reality is there about, as much as it's coming earlier. Yeah. It is coming earlier and it's just going to keep getting worse if I keep waiting. The roads were posted from February 22nd last year until May 8th. Well, we haven't posted them yet, right? Tomorrow. Tomorrow. I want to. Tomorrow. I want to do today. Yeah. Yeah. Can he, will he truck tomorrow? Yeah. Just to make sure it's laid down. Yeah. I don't want to get those vibe blown off my land. Dispensation. Like I said last year, when they got filled up, they shut everybody down. It was after the first of July. And it's piling and it gets blue stain in it if it, once it starts warming up. Yeah. So then they eat no gut. I'm sorry I'm where I am, but that's where it's at. And that's my living now. Yeah. You know, I had my rubbish root until I got run out of ads. I can't even fall back on that now. Can't even eat any of the garbage. It's all garbage. So, yeah. Does it pop to the select board? No. And their capabilities have the ability to say, okay, let's give special permission for certain circumstances or deliver certain types of activities. So he would all get caught like this at the end and just say, okay, you got two weeks and get it over with. Well, that's kind of what we were getting at with the continued improvement of the road permit. Yeah. I'm talking about the immediate need. Oh, the immediate need. That we're talking about tonight. Well. Yes. Thank you. Yeah. So, thank you. That would be the recommendation. Yeah. I think we're all kind of in agreement that needs to happen, but you should definitely work around the temperature. Oh, yeah. I don't mind doing that. I'd call them when you go home and tell them tomorrow morning to show up for this truck. All right. You know, I'm stuck in a hard place right now. You're stuck in a mud yet? Not yet. You know, like I said, there's still a lot of frost in the ground. And we keep waiting. That's when they get even worse. What do you call them down? You're stuck by them. And then, you don't call them off the hill. What do we have? I don't have any. Yeah. Your place. Your yard. Bring them down. I don't understand either. You know, I've turned up a waste of time, too. Loading and unloading, yeah. Yeah. It's expensive. You know, while he's loaded, why not go to the mill? So he's going to Essex. He says he doesn't want to go over about the mountain road enough? Yeah. That's the way he's gone. Right. Right. So he didn't have to go on the ground road. Yeah. And that's the way Rodney goes, too. We don't do it if it's, you know, 70 degrees or something. Yeah. I'd want to keep waiting because the frost is going to come out of the ground, and then it is going to be a problem. Right now, there still is frost. There's plenty of that. So that's why I'd like to get it, get him in there, get him hauled, and then, if I have any more after that, we'll play it by ear. Well, those roads are frozen. I don't care. It's just, I'm going to get one of them landing up there. Are you going to keep cutting? Yeah. Is this five loads going to turn into ten? Oh, I'm going to keep cutting, but like I just said, I'll work around when the temperatures are frozen. Well, I ain't going to sit home with my thumb and my, with my mouth on top of it. I'm going to work, but I get these five loads of pine out, and I can keep working and work around the cold weather. It's just these five loads and I'm sitting on the landing now. You weren't bodily enough, Mike. Thanks for asking. Yeah, right. Check with Dan to see if it's frozen enough. When? Just in. I'll haul him tomorrow. I'll haul him tomorrow. Well, if he, I mean, if he comes in there tomorrow, definitely. Yeah, well, I'm sure he'd haul all day again. Right. You know, I'm sure you'll get right in there getting out of there. Right. Yeah, I'm sorry about the confusion, but I never actually talked to him. I left him a message. Yeah. Because he called Wednesday about Thursday. And I suggest that really, not Thursday, but Friday morning is going to be good and hard. Go ahead. Yeah. Well, it's full of good weather today, and it looks like it ain't going to freeze until Sunday, but they're good here, you know, because we are cold. But that's my only thing. I want to get those five loads of logs off my landing. Go home and call them. Are you kidding me out? I thought it wasn't that bad. I thought it was nice. He's trying to switch it on there. I thought he'd done good for himself. Wow. First time I come, first time I've been thrown out. I won't leave that. I don't have to. You're missing all the fun. But you can go home and watch it on Orca Media, though, if you think about it. That's okay. I've had enough entertainment for the night. All right, let's talk about something fun like fire trucks. Yeah. So we got down this weekend and look at that. And she called me today, and right now, we've got the first chance. But there's two others that are waiting. To look at and they're holding them. Correct. But you don't have another meeting for three weeks. Well, if you go down there and you like what you see, then we can always warn a special meeting by posting it in free place. Is he posting it on the website? He mailed it into the paper. Right. That's basically what I want. So we can not... I mean, we've been looking for two or three years now for something and, you know, they just aren't there. If they're there, they're gone within two weeks. So is that something that, when you're down there, you're going to need to call up here and get approval? As long as I give them, say we're going to do it and then we can actually have a meeting. Right. Real soon and then what the deal is, they'll draw up all the paperwork and like I explained before, we can't have it. So... August. And so what we've got to pay is 10% down. So when are you going down? Saturday morning. So we could pencil that in on the town meeting, right? Yeah. So I didn't know whether you'd have to have a special meeting or whether you could be the one who says okay or, you know... If you like it, you can do a special meeting. I mean, what keeps us from making that decision right now is if you like it. We authorize them to... I mean, I trust you to go look at it and we don't... Do you have a much act? I can think of other things that I'd rather do for over $7 one-way. Yeah. No. Is there any reason not to authorize it? No. So I'd move that if in your esteemed analysis you like what you see, we would approve. Commit to what? Commit to it. We're going for a guy, so I mean, let me just make it on your mind. Crawl underneath it, though. Oh, yeah, we exactly will. Just look at the crawl. Who's going with you? Well, Wingman was here, but he's not gone. I'm going to travel a lot further. Butchie and Mark. And I don't know who the fourth one is for sure yet. Do you have a price already on it to approve, right? I'm going to hopefully get it a little lower, but if there's people waiting the chances out here, I'm going to get a lot lower. The final price. Okay. She said today it was in... the gal I've been dealing with said it's in mint condition or better. They always say that. No. They always tell me I'm just having my little lady put this in porn. So we moved that. Do we have one favor? Yeah. Got it. Go for it. Okay. That was fun. That was fun, bro. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah. The Tennis Quartz Reserve fund, we didn't spend any money on it after Irene, because we got that grant money to rebuild it. In this last budget, we did start putting some more money away to deal with issues. So I would move that we... realize there's something here that we need to sign for that, right? You have to sign. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. So I moved to... We already put it in the budget. We might as well move it to open the bank account. No. The reserve account. All in favor? All right. Okay. Can you make that a little clearer? I can't go under the same name for opening the bank account. No. Stop, Tennis. No. It's not opening a bank account. It's more opening a specific reserve fund just to hold that money. Re-opening it. Re-opening it. Yeah. Is it... Was it closed automatically because it just wasn't activity? We weren't funding it. We weren't funding it. So it was just... Yeah. So... If I said you moved to reopen a specific tennis court reserve fund since it had been closed since Irene. Is that it? No. It hadn't been dormant since Irene. So the sidewalks, that is definitely... They're in need of much attention. And again, I sent Joan some pictures of some of the highlight bad spots to buttress our presentation to the powers that be looking for the grant money to address that. We already conducted a scoping study which is one of the first steps for getting these grants is to properly analyze it and study the situation and document the needs. And it's... It's definitely on my list of things important. You walk around town and better keep your eyes open. So I have a question. Are you seeking... At one point there were some pretty grandiose proposals about how to approach this? Personally, my main concern is getting from the corner of School Street to the corner to the park. Just that fading piece of a non-existent sidewalk on Route 100, which is... As far as I can tell, the most used patch of difficulty. There's definitely one of them. That was on the highlighter. They kind of prioritized with the worst spot and then the next worst spot. And that was definitely... That block in there is critical. The recommendations in the big projects was to bite the bullet and do the whole thing at once because they say it's more efficient in terms of design and logistics and all that. And honestly, I don't see it happening that way. We went ahead and tackled the section that had been identified on the north end of the park house when they were doing... They needed to tie in the sewer drain there and we were able to get in there and have them identify at a corridor and lay in a little bit of sidewalk where it was a free-for-all for... And that's how it's gonna... We'll find some money to tackle some bigger projects, but I don't know if I buy the idea that we need to just do everything all at once to be able to do everything at once. I think if we can... Joan, do you have some input on this? You've been digging into this and studying. Find us any money yet? Well, I'm not actively looking for money at the moment because we don't have a real plan for it. There are two things. One is the stormwater master plan which, you know, ties into what happens with the sidewalks because the sidewalk issues have to do with runoff and drip-court drainage. So that's going to be completed in August so we'll have a better sense of what needs to be done. That's part one and part two is I have a call into Bethel because a few years ago, they did a sort of major sidewalk upgrade in the village and so I've asked them to tell me who I can talk to about how they funded it, who did the design, how they determined, you know, came up with a plan for it. They have to get back to me because I guess people who handled it, Bethel, are no longer in the town government so I can figure out where the files are or who I can talk to. So I might have some more information about it next week. So the second piece of my concern was just walking to the Skip Mart Saturday evening. I literally was almost in the middle of Route 100 because not only the sidewalk but all of that road was just, you know, it had that much slush on it so when you speak about the drainage, will that, that will improve that difficulty as well? Well, the idea is that this master plan will point out the major problem areas and then make a recommendation for how to fix them so we know what, you know, what needs to be done. That spot right there where all that water collects when they repaired the storm drain on the north end of town last summer, we had been banging on their doors saying videos even showing there needs to be an addition of a drain right there because there's a drain up at the corner of the park and then the next one was way down by the credit union and you could see all the water collects there and they were very clear that they were only there to repair what was existing and they were not authorized to change anything. But is that, so that's not something that town has been responsible for? That's a state? That's a state is responsible for the drainage on Route 100 because it's a state highway. So it gets tricky negotiating who's going to be responsible for what but the stormwater plan definitely ties into how the sidewalks are all going to work because you don't want to spend a bunch of money on a sidewalk then have the state come and tear it up because they want something in the middle of it. So is part of what you're working on is communicating with the state as to when and if they're coming to deal with it? It's all intertwined. I'm not aware of anything the state's planning to do on Route 100. How do we get the state's attention or commitment to do something? When we got the state's attention last time around 100s because a big hole opened up in the middle of the road. I'm not going to say a big front then. We just have to keep making noise about it and working through the steps and putting the pieces together. Would it help for them to hear from individual citizens regarding it? Right, because that weighs the time. If you've got the time, it doesn't hurt. Martha, you were going to ask something. I'm going to say there's a section of sidewalk in front of the parkhouse going towards the Catholic Church and everything. That's Route 100 as well. The state is responsible for the drainage along Route 100. Not the sidewalk. I didn't think so, but I wanted to make sure I understood that. I was just thinking that's one of the ones that's got a lot of bumps. That was identified on the study is that it's low enough to actually collect water in there. Well, I've seen kids stumble that we're walking back and forth to school. Probably they weren't watching where they're going, but even so, somebody could get there. So that's not something that's going to be solved quickly, but it's definitely... it's on our... it's on the radar. Thank you. You have some phone calls to make. We'll go. You told me you had phone calls. You had some comments? Oh, sure. So, first I'd like to thank the Select Board. Have fun with the logs. I'd like to thank the Select Board for clarifying the confusion relative to the winter maintenance of the Bingo Road and the Bingo Basin. In the last few weekends, we've observed several young families and dogs and wagons. You know, they parked down at the cemetery and they walked down to the bridge or even further and come back. And a couple of them have stopped and made the comment that, boy, this is great. We have some place in town where we can go where it's flat, it's plowed, it's sanded, and there's not a lot of traffic. So that tells us that the Bingo Road is still very relevant to the recreation on health and enjoyment of the citizens of this town. So I think that's just important in place and it gets very heavily used for that purpose. Secondly, I'd like to just get a public update as to any approved plans for any work to be done on the Pine Gap Road, issuing a permits civil engineering, any of that sort of thing. I'm sort of out of the loop and I don't really know what's going on. I'm just curious. At this point, there's no agreements or permissions given for any kind of work on Pine Gap Road. Okay, that's fine. We have some pictures we'd like to present to the slide board just so that they have some objective evidence as to what the scope of that work might be as we continue to monitor some of the runoff and the melting of the high water events on the Pine Gap Road. It's pretty impressive how that water runs down that road a couple of weeks ago, February 20th, which is where these color photos were taken. There's some pretty significant streams and runoff which just, again, gives you a sense of what the scope of work would be when you finally do have to approach that. So I'd like to present this. Sure. And that's all I have. Thank you for your time. Yeah, thank you. So, Frank. Sure. Yes. Do you have some information that you wanted to talk about the school property? Yeah. And I'd like to review the articles too. That's one of the financial some of the copies of some of the deeds you want. Want some of that stuff back on top there, Frank? No. No, I always said hand us. Jeff, sure. But some folks we had last like a week ago. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. For indicating the school board meeting that was scheduled for this Wednesday, that's going to be moved until March 7th, Wednesday next week. And I think the members of the board would appreciate some follow-up to this meeting at that meeting. This is a copy of the Articles of Agreement that voters in Rochester approve back in November. I'm just going to go through the articles. The relevant ones are five and six. All right. So, did everyone get a copy? Yeah. Article 5A district will assume all capital debt of the former districts including both friends of one interest that may exist at the close of business on June 30th, 2018. I'm sorry, the context of this is that a Rochester school district and the Stockbridge school district are becoming one new district and in accord with Act 46 there were articles of agreement and these are consistent with the other articles of agreement that have been promulgated and other mergers across the state and even in the supervision of the union as well. So the Unified District will assume all capital debt of the former districts including both friends of one interest that may exist at the close of business on June 30th, 2018. The Unified District shall assume any and all general operating purposes and deficits of the forming districts that may exist at the close of business on June 30th, 2018. In addition, reserve funds identified for strategic purposes will be transferred to the Unified District and will be used for set purposes unless otherwise determined through appropriate legal procedures. See the debt and funds specified about subject to finalization of audits shall be transferred to the new Unified District in accord with procedures and timelines established by the Unified District Board of School Directives following this organizational meeting. D, the forming districts will transfer to the Unified District any pre-existing school districts, specific endowments or rather restricted endowments that may exist on June 30th, 2018. Scholarship funds are like accounts held by school districts or the supervisor union prior to June 30th, 2018, that have specific conditions of use will be used in accordance with that provisions. So those are the articles that have to do with, you know, debts and balances and I have also some of the figures that pertain to those, you know, valuations of property and debts that occurred in the proposal that was approved by the State Board of Education back in November. I don't know if people want to see copies of this. Some people sitting here are, and I'm thinking of Nancy Boley and Bob DeHart and, you know, people have been working on the the Unified District Budget Committee no far and away, much more about bonds and debts and so on. Those are the figures that were included in the proposal just to get an idea of what things were what they thought things would work. As for property, no later than June 30th, 2018, the forming districts will convey to the Unified District for the sum of one dollar. The Subject Law and Convergence is a record of how their school related real and personal property including all land buildings and contents. If it's a school board, we'll seek yourself a genuine daycare building prior to June 30th, 2018. In our elementary school, there will be photos of the unified district board of directors in the affirmative order of the town in which and in the affirmative order of the town which it's located. C, very important to this, in the event that at a subcontinent of the Unified District Board of Directors determines the construction of a continued possession of the real property including land and buildings conveyed to it by one or more of the forming districts are unnecessary for the continued operation of the Unified District and its educational programs. The Unified District shall offer for sale such real property to the town in which such real property is located for the sum of one dollar. Subject Law and Converance is a record of the assumption of payment of all outstanding bonds and notes in the repayment of any school construction aid or grants required by Vermont law in addition to costs of capital improvements subject to July 1st, 2018. The conveyance of any of the above school property shall be conditioned upon the town owning and utilizing the real property for community and public purposes for a minimum of five years in the event a town elects to sell the real property prior to five years of ownership the town shall compensate the Unified District for all capital improvements and renovations completed after the formation of the Unified District and before the sale to the town. In the event a town elects not to acquire ownership of such real property the Unified District shall pursue in two Vermont statutes sell the property upon terms and conditions established by the Unified District Board of Directors. That's what 291 citizens in favor of. I've been doing some work on this and Joanne was kind enough to send me some of the deeds that are relevant. Actually there is a need for Dandelion Daycare Center that I need to find I guess it was conveyed to the school district in 1955 so I don't have I mean I don't have any paperwork on that and I doubt actually that it will be sold as of July for us 2018 just in terms of the sale of property in this valley and in surrounding towns but also because the deed was not only for the Dandelion Building but also property That's the first one Is it the first one? The elementary school property? Smith Canyon to the Rochester Town School District that's the elementary school property and also this bike house in Lott So is this one here? Oh I see. So that includes the house too. So Dandelion Daycare was sold before then so it would go into the school fund so that would still be part of this deal It's not like if Dandelion Daycare gets sold before If Dandelion Daycare is sold before that then it won't be part of this deal Well where would that money go as part of the school property does that go into the school's pockets or the town's pockets? I mean I have to think that made it I don't know the answer to that I mean because they're talking about not only the property but the funds and the fund balances and the debts I assume it would have to go into some Rochester School Fund which would make it part of this deal So it's kind of irrelevant This deal is conveying that property if it's not sold to the Marooch District or the Rochester School District Well they're talking about everything going into the Marooch District If it isn't sold by July 1 If it is sold by July 1 then I think it becomes funding that could be used by Rochester Schools But I don't know the answer to that and that's a good question I mean that's part of the reason I'm here today with the employer Just to get some questions asked that I don't have the answers for and also just to involve the select board in the town and what's obviously what you've got We just went right through that building and brought it up to state standards for day care, right? Not all of them Not all of them There's a few problems left Well anyway we've got all this money invested into it but he's crying for day care I mean is there any way the town can purchase the building and lease it out to somebody that would run a day care that opened at 6 o'clock in the morning and stayed open until 7 o'clock at night so people that have to drive 2 hours to work one way would have some place to leave their kids and pick them up You know when Kathy Nighter and her husband you know permitting for paint I think if Kathy Nighter had remained our principal that would have been open as a day care but somehow with the change of administration time was lost and impotence was lost but frankly it was set up and permitted to be a licensed day care center and frankly I mean I was reading the 2013 planning report specifically addressing a crying need for child care but I was just surprised that I mean it just I know there was some effort to get it started as a day care for 4 year olds and 3 year olds but it seems to me it's a resource that you know the town should find valuable in terms of completing a need that the planning commission or that the town planning is addressing I don't know if the town would be interested in permitting You definitely didn't budget for it No, no, no You had a valuation of $90,000 No, I didn't mean according to that What do you think it would sell for? What would you say according to this you have a different value? I mean one realtor thought it was in the neighborhood of the 70s Nancy? Well I think this past year year and a half there was an effort to get information from townspeople whether it became a functioning day care and were there people who would be interested in using it and the school could not come up and I think the school board was involved in it they could not come up with enough people to warrant opening it as a day care even though they had Orange County parent child willing to come over here and operate it but they could not get enough interest to take it any further They were going to accommodate whatever people needed but they could not find anybody willing to commit to it Just child care? It's day care For children? Yes, just children I don't think they would have sent a center to help seen as they would have more appeal to Should we even talk about just the bottom door But they were going to do that There was a space above that that I think could be turned into office answers could be right now it's folded into the school properties and it's part of this consideration So again unless it's sold Yes I heard 1950 what was that date? 55 62 years ago That's my birthday year When that building was given to the town What was the structure of the school in relation to that individual providing this building to the structure of what the school was not the structure of the school today They bought the elementary school I'm just asking I don't know the history but I'm saying the owner of that building Donated Saw Mill Burn And he lived in that house And he did How did he transfer it to the town He sold it to the town school district He sold it to the town So that town school district That structure The town structure How different was that That town structure at that time Then we're currently in Into the relationship of if that property belongs to the town If you ever go into the school You'll listen Didn't you Terry? You have a lot more kids in your class today It's good But it provided It provided a spot for a future for the elementary school and for the high school High school used that building for years for home act Back in 55 We didn't have silo type activity with the school separate from the town and how the town and the school functions together There was a school district and a municipality But it kept changing too, correct But it didn't There were two separate districts You can go back to the town Say I'm just wondering if this property belongs to the town No, it belongs to the school Absolutely So that should answer Frank's question He's asking whether the town should buy the property So he's asking Because they're going to the school So after The trust fund is About 300,000 Into the school budget Why don't the school just give it to the town since we gave all that money to the school budget for the last X amount of years I mean, what's Why do we have to buy it? I mean, we've been dumping money into the school budget which disappeared and we have a result of what we got So why don't we just give the building back to the town and compensate for that 300,000 I don't know I'm just wondering We did pay for it How many times do we have to pay for it? Harlan What's your take on that? I've got another question Another question School property of Bingo What's going on with that? It's exposed What do you mean the Johnson property? That isn't known by the principal and the students Which principal? Whoever happens to be here Quick deed it? Yeah Did that answer that? No, I didn't get that That property is actually owned by the students and the principal not the school district So that's not part of this deal as far as I understand Is that what you're understanding? No It's not part of the deal So who owns it now? Students Students Students The elementary students and the principal The principal The principal I'll buy it I'll buy it I'll take all the lease land you got I'll If he has that he can read it School forest That dated I'm going to get down through here June 1948 That's when the school forest was That's when the school forest came into being and and it came from I think it came from the store up there and Earl Hubbard Earl Hubbard Earl Hubbard is how the students and the town and the principal got it What is the wording now? Said property shall be under the sole and exclusive control of the principal of Rochester High School and the students attending said high school The use, income, benefits and profits from said land shall be for the benefit of the students of Rochester High School And in 1948 they wouldn't have thought it was going to close For such purposes as they may decide by a majority vote I'll buy it I'll buy it I'll buy it I'll buy it You're gonna leave it I don't know This is one of the interesting pieces of the character of Rochester That piece of property How does he go? I don't think it's a high school I don't think it's all students I have a question on attachment C where it says property to be transferred bingo road virus land property it says the rate here so if it doesn't belong to be transferred attachment C apparently may be wrong no it's it no it won't be transferred it's listed as property to be transferred on attachment C no it's no it's just no it will not be trans the bingo forest land property will not be transferred in canopy you heard that boat well it's not officially by exclusion by not by not being mentioned it was by exclusion thank you for pointing in that up well you know taking over that property for the purpose of having a day to do this you can't do that you know I understand about the forest I'm not sure where that is but now that's what you've done with the forest we're talking back about that blind day care yeah yeah sorry we're moving well we could investigate mason's option of the school giving it to the town is that a way of hedging back on what we've offered to the the union of the school districts I don't know what would that be it's something that it's something that you know should be should be an option I think but it has to be exercised you know by June I don't understand I'm just making a friend of mine really want to pursue it yeah I just know this nothing that the three of us are going to give you an answer to right here and that may be actually something more that the school board would have to consider because they're the ones and I'm just right now I'm just laying it out and I will propose that our meeting on you know the 7th because I just as I think you know I'm just amazed that and I think out of the difficulty with it's it's operating as a daycare was that there was some difficulty with you know when it was going to be open whether it would be open you know only until this time and not until this time I think there was some difficulties with that and then there was a there was a republication of what it would be open and by then it was just too late people had made their commitments to daycare local but it's it but it's something that I'll raise as an option for you know for selling it for you know a consideration but I mean that's a dollar well I mean that's what that's what occurs to me sure but I think but I think it's just I don't know seems to me it's a problem that would be valid before the education of our kids or daycares all right but I won't raise it up the school board meeting in month seven yeah Frank just be clear how now that we have officially had the ceremony to create this new governance of the merger the new board is in charge is that correct until July 1st still an active old board which you represent yes you know I just want to get clarity on you know how this interaction is going on between the old board and the new board and their their interest I mean would it be good to have a present new board member accompany you when you're presenting this stuff it turns out that the one member of the new board Amy Wilt has found it more enjoyable more enjoyable to be in Florida right now with her kids but actually I mean we have been in close I mean she is the link between the old board and the new board and actually she's been I think she's been quite active in looking at these issues she's been very active right we have how many new board members great on the new merger board the new merger board has six so she's on vacation she could pass the baton she doesn't have to she's doing this a favorite by bringing this up I don't think we should find fault with the board for not being here no I'm just trying to understand everybody else does I'm just trying to open the lines of communication and you know hopefully have people ask me some questions that I need to follow up on and you know just but I but I didn't want town meeting to arrive and someone asked a question about school property and you have to say well gee I don't know nobody from the school board has come to us about that at all so I just want to you know lay out some of these things and then there will be a school board meeting the 7th where this is continuing so this topic of giving or selling dandelion day care back to the town or to the town it was never my idea or are you presenting that from the school board no that's my best your idea I'm gonna with Mesa tell how do you have to have a look at me this is what is the solution for this so the property of fair market value or so I just I mean it just I mean I just was thinking this myself so you know I'll suggest but I think the town meeting is one place where the select board and the school board to a large extent may be present even though the select board is holding the meeting that may be will be up add to the interesting discussions we like I mean I think that could be a very lively topic of discussion at the end of the town there's also an annual school meeting on March 26 that this can be discussed yeah but I think it would come out that both me I think it should come out that both of you all right yes okay this will be somewhere in all of this stuff I must So, now that we've dealt with the additions to the agenda, we'll move on to the minutes from the last Select Board meeting, which wasn't as exciting as this one. But we still have the minutes. And I'd move, we accept them as presentable on favor. And we also have the minutes from the special Select Board meeting that was on Wednesday, February 21st. And I would move to accept these, so all in favor? All in favor. All right. And Frank, Joan, we touched on some of your updates earlier. But do you have anything else that you'd like to share with us? Yeah, it would be quick. This is the mostly stuff that you probably really won't be able to focus on until after the town meeting. On the wastewater upgrade project, there's a contract signing with Heber excavating scheduled for March 19th. And we already have a resolution doomed for you to sign on behalf of the town. So I'll just remind you of that sometime before the 19th. There's going to be here in the office at 10 o'clock. The rest of my time for the past couple of weeks or more has been on road projects of one type or another. Last week, we did get word that we received a fiscal year 19 grant. We applied for that in October from Better Roads. And that's for a road erosion inventory, which is required as the first step in the municipal road general permit, which is now getting ramped up by the state. And Two Rivers is going to be managing that erosion survey with town time input as a town match for that grant. We've gotten notice of our annual visit to be scheduled with VTrans District 4. And that'll be to discuss our annual financial plan that we have to file every year and also discuss grants for projects we want to do in the upcoming fiscal year. And apropos of that, April 15, this is due date for the next round of structures and class 2 grants. And I've talked a little bit with Dan about possible projects for a structures grant. The other one that's come up this evening is that retaining wall on Bethel Mountain Road. We've applied at least twice that I know of for a grant to do the engineering work on that. Robert Marr did it in maybe it was 2015, I think, or 2016. And then I applied last year also. And both times they've been turned down. I don't know why. So I think that would be a good topic of discussion when we meet with the district floor folks, which will be sometime before the structures grant is due. So we can just ask them why they keep turning it down. And is there some way we can get some attention from them to do that work, since it sounds like it's just getting worse. Dan has also suggested a retaining wall replacement on Buttle's Road. And so if you can think of any other priorities before that meeting is set up, that would be good so we can discuss them all with the VTrans folks and get their feedback on what they think is going to get prioritized. So we know what to expect going forward. And I'll be preparing those grants for submission. Well, I mentioned the Municipal Roads General permit is ramping up. The permit itself was approved at the state level after a series of hearings and revisions at the end of January. And so the next step is to get that road erosion inventory done. And that'll give us a bunch of projects that we'll need to start working on going forward. And I'm in the process of putting together a two-page summary for you of what the municipal permit, general permit, is all about and what the deadlines are for various things we have to do as a town. So I'll give that to you after the town meeting so we can start focusing on that. Well, I tried to distill it down, but you really need to know. There's an awful lot of information that's very confusing after a while. Dan, aside from the upcoming road postings for mud season in the top year, did anything else on the road that you want to talk about? Getting rid of the 550. Yeah. We've got, well, no one really wants to bet on it because we want to hold the truck until then no one is done. Greens are the only one. Unless Gstone told me to do it by 6 o'clock tonight, I didn't get back in. But it doesn't have to happen right today in the next couple of days. To trade that in, Greens, $11,571 is going to cost us. And the body is $45,064. They're the only ones who has given us a price or want to give us a price on the body. And Dodge won't give us a price because they can't tell us when a truck will be built. And GMC and Chevy do not make one that big. I got to hope. Fosters won't give us, they won't give us a price because they won't, they don't have any idea when the build date or it will be. West Berlin ordered one in January and they still don't have a build date. So they said they won't even dare to do it or it won't give us a price on it. So we're going to have two or one right now. I don't know why Gstone has to go back to me but I told him I had to be Friday and then I sent him an email today and said it had to be today, hit by six o'clock. So this is getting bids from these people? Okay. It's on replacement. On replacement for the fight, right? For the fight, yeah. We wait longer or? Well, we don't really want to wait that long. Like what happened last time? No. They've got us to go ahead and... People have three, but when you can't get three people to bid on it, it's kind of hard to win. Yeah. I mean, I guess I'd go and see if I could find a truck. So does that satisfy our requirement to have three bids if we've approached three people? We've tried to. We've tried to. And we all know that it's nice to do business with Ted Green because they're right here and they take care of us. And they were not hesitant at all on giving us a price. Yeah. I don't think... This is a lot less than we were expecting, isn't it? Yes. Yeah. That's the whole thing built for a little over 56,000. Yeah, both. Yeah. Yeah. Green's won by 50. Yes, sir. I'd be willing to give it to him. Right? Yeah. You can climb to the roof, too. Just sit there. That's okay. I knew that. I don't think you're going to find a better deal. No. I don't. I mean, it sounds too good. Yeah. I even had Joanne read it when I got it. Just making sure I'd read it, right? I'm sorry. That's plus warranty, which is dependent on the years, the hours, and the mileage. It can be up to a little over, like, it's like 7,400. Yeah. But I'm not sure how many hours are on that one. So I hope they're easy to say. That's what's going to get us is the hours is not the mileage. So it'll depend on the hours, you know, 5,000 hours, 4,000. It's less if people with less mileage or less mileage. Yeah. I think we should be able to go back. I knew that. Make a motion to go ahead and purchase the new 550 from Ted Greenport. I know. Yeah. Second that. All in favor? All right. And the body for a therapy. And the body for a therapy. And the body for a therapy. And the body for a therapy. And the body for a therapy. We'll do it right now. Make a motion to have the body built by HP Fairfield. I'll second that. Yes. All in favor? All right. All right. Yeah. The truck goes for sure. The fare feels cheaper than the rest of the body. We just went to a tent. We'll call again tomorrow. So this truck will be in the snow flies next year. Yeah. Fairfield is a good people. We put service to them. Were they located? More so. More so. But they're normal. Which one do you want to go to? They're all old. All right. That's a close one. Yeah. Red. Martha. I just noticed something on the agenda about no pass, a request for no passing sign. We're headed that way. I haven't quite got there yet. Yeah. Are you the reason why that's on there? No. That's enough for the highways. Terry got any updates on the water sewer world? No. No. Things running and flushing? Good. I have a question. On that. Last year, I was speaking about. Do you mind coming around since everybody else is on camera? Might as well. Might as well be too. Might as well be too. I was quoted last year, the meeting, speaking about the septic system. And there's the last sentence. I was confused by that. It talks about the $350,000 site three number. And actually, I was speaking about site four. Once it fails, how much is it going to be costing us once site four fails in the process of building a waste treatment plant? And are we actually planning for this failure? First up, there's no plans for building a waste treatment plant. That's not until site four fails. Site four has got a replacement right there where it is. So, I mean, if you get 30 years out, you're going to get at least another 30 out of the same place. Possibly with our climate issues. We don't know. With the White River. The way the soil is over there, and what we fast as monitoring tubes, most, the shallowest one is down. The lowest one is at least 50 feet of water. And all tests good. So, we have no worries about site four. I didn't say no worries. I mean, we've got 200 hookups. One thing that's going to hurt it is if you don't pump them regularly. Okay. Isn't it true by law we can't go with a waste treatment plant? You'd have to. Well, let's suggest it. You'd have to have an act of Congress. Literally an act of Congress. Okay. When the engineer was here, that was his... We could not do it. Well, that was his solution, though. No. Only if we couldn't find another spot to put it. I mean, it was mentioned that if once force, if site four fails... Someday. Someday. So, guess what? If you show the treatment plant, you're going to rebuild it every 20 years. Well, that's what I'm concerned about. Well, that's the idea of planning for the next X amount of years that we know what we're going to do because a treatment plant is what? It won't be around. We won't. But it will probably cost $10 million. Is that anything? We'd be $10 million. I wasn't clear why that was written in the way it was. It's in the old minutes. Now, you said, first you said last year. Talk about last year or last meeting. No, last year's meeting in the town report. Last year's meeting in the town report. The minutes. Okay. Site four was put on commission 2004. That's when it started. So, it was 14 years old. Put it online. Correct. Yeah. Also, in the town report, Terry, what page is the reserve for the fire department? Where the rest of them are. Well, I don't know. I don't either. I was just wondering, do we have the $65,000? We will have. We will have? There's $15,000. Right. Okay, but I just didn't find it in the town report. It's right here. What page, please? I'm coming to it. I just saw it tonight. Let's see here. Fire department. The equipment fund is on page 27. And what is the total? Well, the total as of last June. June was $35,000. And that helps contain the $39,000. And we have another appropriation that will be going in for this current year. And we budgeted another amount for next year. And that is separate from the fire department's expenses? Yes. Okay. Which is $39,000 or $35,000. I'm just trying to learn how to understand the town report. It's pretty straightforward. Sort of. I just wondered if we had $65,000 for any vehicle. We wouldn't have been buying it if we didn't have it. I'm just trying to comprehend because the dates are June 2016. Do you got your mind wrapped around it now? I'm getting it. I'm just trying to figure out how the other voters figure this out. Anyhow, those are two questions I had about the town report. Okay. Okay. Specific utilities. And that's okay. So new business, we had a request for a no passing sign section of Betham Mountain Road. And I guess I, from what I understand, that would be when you. There's a question by Nancy McIntyre who lives after you get past Bindram Lane and you just get around that corner and there's a little flat before you head down the dip. She lives on the left-hand side and she said they've had quite a few close calls because people get on that and then they start to pass as they're pulling out in either direction. And currently that's not a passing zone in terms of pavement marking. That's not, you know, it's a double white line where people pass there all the time. Yeah. I hope so. You're welcome. I hope so. I hope so. So it would. Thank you. What does we offer? A gray area. I'll put it aside anyway. Well, would we have to check in with the state to see if we could follow this? I think you do. Yeah. So that's still scheduled to be, which it has been for a couple of years, at least now, to be that whole mountain re-signed for four years. Yeah. In regards to truck traffic? No. All the signs. We've signed a contract with the state to do that. And we're still waiting for them to show up and do that. Yes. So this would be a good opportunity to remind them that we're waiting and we want to edit what we're asking for a little bit. Who would be talking to Chris? Rita Cito. Rita? Yeah. My source of information last time was last summer. I asked her about it. It was just, well, they didn't get to it this year, which is what they said the year before as well. It's a good idea. We're going to move on to the records management guidelines. Martha, you might not want to miss this one. OK, good. We're talking about the records management guideline for the town, which this is, is this a new mandate? Or we just? Yeah, each town has to have a policy for record retention. Record retention. Which is, you know, all the old stuff can be shredded or recycled after a certain number of years. So there's a lot of stuff downstairs that goes back to the 70s that is probably OK to shred. Well, there's specific guidelines. There are specific guidelines for every kind of paper. And you've got the safety shred coming at the end of March, March 30th. So this would probably want to have this in, say, beginning March of 2018 to have this policy in place. So I'd move we adopt this policy, which conforms to the rules about what we have to keep for how long. And if you want to know all the details, you can come and find it and read it. But I'm not going to read it here because it's so boring. Just speed things along. All in favor? All right. OK, so we can stay down forever on this. I don't know what they do with this film. I'm sorry. You're right. So it's a microphone that they're coming to check and make sure that it's still coming. And as far as I can tell, that's it. I'll fit for you on paying some bills. Thank you all for coming. Thank you. Thank you. We're ready. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.