 Tom, you're live. Hello, that's why I'm holding up a picture of Justin. That was such an uncomfortable look. Like it just something about Justin, where when the the 70s newscast stash was just odd all around it's disconcerting. Yeah, and it didn't help it. Like, are you not used to Justin doing these things? No, no, it is, but like, it's just that one in particular especially it looked like he went and rated the Goodwill and took all the 70s jackets or whatever. I'm pretty sure that's what he did, too. Yeah, like he really lived up the part, especially like a nertacular. It was it was it was weird. I haven't talked to him in years. You know, he looks right. He just looks like that's yes. That was I don't know. Yeah, suits him. I guess it'd be that if he was 20 years older, that would be his calling in life. He would still be on WKLA. So yeah, I set aside a couple minutes right before mailbag for you guys to talk about your weekend with your news, your new devices and stuff. Our new mortgages, new mortgage payments. My device actually works now, but it took I didn't actually have a working iPhone until 24 hours after it was delivered to me, which is like pulling teeth. Yeah, that's a little frustrating. A little frustrating. It worked out, but I can talk about that in a few. Yes, indeed. I'll talk about my American Express bill and how I can get a Patreon to help us play. I'll be paying for this phone. Hey, since we're only talking to Discord, audio, Good Day Internet and YouTube video, I want to acknowledge that my background is different. So video viewers, this is not the final camera. This is not the final background. This is not the final lighting. This is an audio show and this is me trying some stuff out and learning from it. And we'll definitely be evolving this set. So you definitely should have worn a lighter jacket today. Well, take the jacket off because it does. OK, that jacket comes up. It makes a big difference to me. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I think so, too. Otherwise, it's your if I was in that background, you wouldn't be able to see me at all. So yeah, just imagine I would have. I would have had to smile or something. You know how hard I work for this powder all morning. Hmm. Oh, jeez. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah, I didn't realize until you started mentioning it, but you look like a floating head just in the middle of nowhere. All right. I'm going to get a powdered wig. Oh, is that a thing? That'll make my hair, you know, like, like in the 17 hundreds. Yeah, pulling the wool over somebody's eyes. Yeah, those those George Washington wigs. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. OK, definitely. Oh, Ray Dog, we don't have separation. Can you how bad can you guys hear that? I can hear her. It's it's significantly there. But I have a feeling we're getting mail. Well, you know, to be fair, she's doing her best. She I mean, I don't want to pull the curtain back too far in this this show, but it's almost like we're a podcast. Podcasts don't have curtains. Everyone knows that. I love. Anyway, so, you know, yes, we know it's too dark. We know the shots pretty wide. We know lots of that kind of stuff. But but concept wise, the idea is I'm going to have all of these gadgets behind me with books. The books will come back, some of them, not all of them. And and some decor and art and stuff like that. So that's what. And, you know, if you want to continue using a potato as a camera, that's fine. You know, you do you. Are you cool with that? I am. I think I would. Then you get to eat it afterwards. It's great. That's what people say when your camera is actually using the potato as the camera. But it's the bad potato battery I made this. You see, that would be definitely your style. I actually made one of those. That's another thing we used to do in science class. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I learned that from World Book. Oh, my God, that series. My watch just told me it was time to leave if I want to get to the studio in time for DTNS. You better hurry up. You better get going right now. And yet it's telling me it's going to take 26 minutes. So if I followed this, I'd be late. Yeah. All right, watch time, new house, new studio, new time. 40, 40 seconds, 40 seconds. All right, get your lemon batteries fired up. Is that the series four? And he's dissecting your frogs. My God. Chackolas feel free. Oh, my gosh. OK, how am I pretty? Hey, man, you're in German. Are you, you know, Patrick? Beja was born pretty or born ready. You're born pretty. This is what I was trying to thank you. Thank you. Oh, you try to say because I'm in the burbs now, I can loosen up. Just saying, I want you to be comfortable. All right, here we go. Oh, we missed it. Now I have to wait another minute. Crap, no, I'm just going to wait 20 seconds. Ready? OK, it's a long story. Um, the U.S. begins at 1730 into the good day Internet. That's what I'm trying to hit. All right. I'll count it down again. Ten, nine, eight, seven, six. So anticipation for three, two, one. Thanks to everyone who supports Daily Tech News Show directly. To find out more, head to Daily Tech News Show dot com slash support. This is the Daily Tech News for Monday, September 24th, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt and from Studio Feline. I'm Sarah Lane, also Los Angeles. I'm Lamar Wilson and sitting in for producer Roger Chang. I'm Anthony Lemmos. Hey, that's welcome back. Good day. Roger deserves a day off. Thank you for filling in for today. Does he? Oh, I mean, let's give him two. How's that? That's the man's sleep while I am in Los Angeles. I'm in a different part of Los Angeles than I was on Friday, partly because I'm not in my car, but but also in a different location. This is a new studio work in progress. If things sound a little bit different or look significantly different, just be patient with us as we kind of get the new digs up and running. It's not going to stop us from telling you a few tech things you should know. At Ignite, Microsoft announced Windows Virtual Desktop, also known as WVD, from multi-user remote desktop and VDI on Azure, a project to unify search across Windows 10, Office 365 and Bing, including the Bing for Business Internet Search, along with proactive suggestions as you type. There's also support for password free logins for Azure Active Directory connected apps, and Office 2019 was also released for those who don't subscribe to Office 365. Yeah, a lot of things coming out of Ignite, mostly business related. They announced the Surface Hub 2S will launch in Q2 2019. It's a little bit smaller. It's definitely lighter and slimmer than the original Surface Hub, 50.5 inch screen. It will be followed in 2020 by the Surface 2X. Now, it won't be twice the size, despite that misleading name. The 2X will feature the ability to rotate the screen, tile the screen. It'll have multi-user login. And here's the interesting part. If you buy the 2S now for your business, you can buy a replaceable processor cartridge to later upgrade to the 2X without having to replace the whole screen and assembly and everything else. Maybe the X stands for 10, Tom. It's the 210. The 210. Like, really? Oh, no. Why not? It's fast. It's fast like the 20. All right. Let's talk a little bit more about acquisitions, Lamar. Yes, sir. So SiriusXM plans to acquire Pandora and continue to operate it as an independent service. Now, both boards have approved the plans, though Pandora negotiated the right to evaluate competing offers between now and expect the close of a deal of quarter one, a Q1, excuse me, of 2019. The combined company plans to cross promote services and offer bundled subscription packages. I think the most interesting part of this, this isn't like really surprising to me that Pandora is looking for an offer, but that they are leaving themselves open to continue to get offer for the rest of this quarter and through the next. So who's the person they're trying to court there? Is it Apple, Google, any ideas here in a panel? I think the reason they want Pandora myself is they think they can apply their ad revenue scheme to it or even their subscription scheme to it. They're SiriusXM shouldn't by any account be still in existence. If you'd asked any of us 10 years ago, will satellite radio still be around in 2018? I think as soon as the iPhone launched, we're all like, no, they're dead and here they are. So I think this is a match made in heaven. Maybe it's not even for acquisition. It's my thinking is maybe they just want to keep adding. In fact, I hope they just add Pandora to the name and keep adding to the name every time they acquire someone. So it becomes SiriusXM Pandora, then SiriusXM Pandora Twitter, then or whatever. But who do you think Pandora is waiting on to court them? Since they have that option? I misunderstood your question. Who else is out there that Pandora is like, we really need to be open in case Apple comes along? Yeah, I would have to be Apple. I think you're right. You think so? Yeah, I think so. Well, I mean, to your point, Tom, SiriusXM still being around and being able to acquire Pandora for all of that money to me is still comes down to original content. Yeah, Pandora has, you know, licensing deals, but Pandora has had quite a bit of issue with that over the years and has had to change its own model because of that and has lots of different competition from the Apples and the Spotify's and, you know, the SoundClouds and everyone. However, Pandora is still a really big user base. So operating independently while sharing some sort of an ad revenue model makes a lot of sense for SiriusXM. And I'm not sure Pandora is really waiting out for a better offer. The offer is... You don't go to that much trouble to negotiate that into your deal if you don't think you've got a good chance at one for some reason, though. That's the kind of unusual thing for them to put in. Well, moving on to Roku News. Roku announced the Premiere and Premiere Plus devices that offer 4K HDR streaming. The Premiere will be sold exclusively at Walmart for $40 and the Premiere Plus will sell elsewhere for $50. Both support A802.11 and Wi-Fi and are up for pre-order shipping in October. The company also announced it will begin supporting Google Assistant in the next few weeks, meaning you can control a Roku from your phone or a Google home device and it will start bundling in JBL headphones for people who buy its Roku Ultra with no price increase. So, sir, I tried to find something wrong with this. Like I looked and I looked and I was like, come on, for $40 there has to be something besides the ethernet port gone. I couldn't find anything. What comparable kind of thing has been right? Like what would you find wrong with something like this? The idea that they're going with Google Assistant, I guess over Amazon Assistant is that's- I meant that they were able just to come in at this crazy price that really even undercut Amazon. Who is that? What, 60, I think? 74 there, maybe. 70 and the same thing for the Chromecast. Apple's at 99 on their box. I've been saying that this is an incredible deal. I was trying to find out what compromises besides the ethernet port and I'm not really saying it. This is a great deal for 40 bucks to get themselves out there. Even at 50 bucks, if you don't buy it at Walmart, it's still beating the competition by at least 10 bucks if not more. Yeah, Roku has always been an affordable option. I have a Roku, I don't use it regularly because I've gone with the Apple TV, but that Apple TV, if you compare it to Roku is certainly much more expensive. I think that Roku figuring out, okay, well, we've got people who love the service and the ecosystem and are already here, but for those who aren't, and yeah, are looking for that voice assistant capability and the fact that Google Assistant as well is undercutting the competition and a lot of the models that are involved that bundle Google Assistant in. It does seem like a match made in heaven and yeah, this is super inexpensive and the Roku is, I mean, this is a robust thing. If you want to cut the cords, it's a great place to start. And Roku is saying over and over that they are an ad supported company. So that might be part of the reason for this cheaper price too. Yeah, they can lose some money on the hardware because they're not in the hardware business. Yeah, I'm curious if this is a loss leader or not. Wall Street Journal reported Saturday that Apple staff in Los Angeles supposedly call Apple's TV show project expensive NBC. Tim Cook reportedly has canceled vital signs, a series about the life of hip hop magnet and Apple employee, Dr. Dre, after it was shot. They had already shot the series. They showed it to Tim Cook and he said, no, it's got a mansion orgy, cocaine use and drawn guns. Oh, now I wanna see it. Yeah, hopefully they'll let somebody else release it. Apple also supposedly asked M. Night Shyamalan to remove crucifixes from his series because they wanna avoid religion or politics. Spielberg's Amazing Stories has a new showrunner because the original showrunner was making it too dark. Even Reese Witherspoon and Jennifer Aniston's morning show comedy wasn't upbeat enough, according to this Wall Street Journal article. These concerns are causing delays and the service is now expected to launch not at the end of this year, but instead perhaps sometime in March of 2019. I mean, knowing how many original series on a variety of up and coming networks, right? You know, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, you know, the list goes on that are really edgy but bring so much attention to the platform. You wonder what Apple is going for here. You know what, I read this yesterday, I believe, in another article besides Ars Technica and I'm like, they're a bunch of fruits. Like, that's what they're coming off. Oh, you know, they wanna be this squeaky clean, family-friendly company but the question is, who's family? Like, what does family-friendly mean these days? And we- Dirty people running your mansion depravary on every show. Shame on you. Disney does a great job with family-friendly content. Why can't there be another one and why isn't Apple the right one for it? Well, and I don't know what the answer is there, but I do wonder, Dr. Dre, great example. I mean, this man has been, yeah, sure, maybe beats acquisition, the whole thing, maybe there was some posturing going on, but he has been part of the company, at least on a PR level, for years. And- You can say he has a controversial past with the French. I mean, I think the problem isn't that Apple wants- I think the problem isn't that Apple wants to be family-friendly. I think the problem is they're doing a bad job of managing it. They should have known that before they shot that series. They should have known it before they hired the showrunner who was too dark for amazing stories. They obviously aren't communicating this. I think they may be getting cold feet, asking for something and then when they get it going, ooh, I don't know if that fits the Apple brand, actually. And that's not usually the way Hollywood works, is you know, like, oh, I'm making this for NBC, so I kind of know where the barriers are. I don't know where the barriers are. And I might try to go over the line here and there, but I expect to get called out on that. Whereas these folks, it sounds like, thought they were working within the rules and then Tim Cook and ADQ look at it and say, oh, no, we can't do that. So it's learning to do what is supposed to be done, right? I think so. Yeah. Moving on to another family-friendly company. Alaska Airlines is piloting Skylights, Alaska Cinematic VR headset aboard in Seattle to Boston and Boston and San Diego routes. Now, the headset is powered by a Qualcomm Snapdragon and offers films from its 20th Century Fox, or partner, 20th Century Fox Warner Brothers and EIM. Passengers will be able to choose from short VR films like Focusing on Free Diving, that would be great in a playing classical music and acrobatics, especially chosen for in-flight viewing. For the record, Alaska Airlines purchased Virgin America 2017 Qantas Equips some flights with Samsung's Gear VR in 2015 while European carriers Air France, June, Corsair and Jetfly are also testing Alaska. Hopefully I pronounced that correct. I lost. Look, look, I like the idea of immersion with VR on a plane provided the students leave your loan. You know, it's not bugging every 10 minutes if you need something. But is that what the proper... I'm sorry, I'm gonna be a piece of cake right here. Oh, because it might be a guy. Oh, okay, cool. I'd say Stuart or Stuart is, or Flight Senate. There you go. No, I like the idea of that, especially if you're on a long flight, having to entertain like that. I would like to choose what I want. You know, I'm not sure I would... I like those options, but, you know... Well, it sounds like... Why not? Here's a bug's me. It sounds like they have a decent amount of options since they have a few partners for this. And my guess is if it takes off and they keep doing it, they'll have a wider set of options. But if I'm in first class and you say, here's your entertainment system. Hey, how cool is this? It's a beta test. I don't feel like I'm being treated first class anymore. Like, let me have my flight entertainment system. And maybe I'm over-reading this story from Engadget, but it said this became your flight entertainment system. I'm going to guess maybe it doesn't actually replace the normal one if you still want to. I would hope that. Yeah. Because then it becomes a fun perk. If you've still got the normal entertainment system to fall back on, you're like, all right, I'll try this. And it's sort of like having the eye patch on when you're on a flight, except now you can watch a movie. I don't know that I'd watch any of the VR movies. Maybe I'd try them out. But it might be pretty cool to watch a big screen movie while you're sort of reclined. Not that I'll ever fly into these routes in first class on Alaska, but it sounds kind of cool. Yeah, let's do it. Let's go to Japan. Japan wants to fight social isolation by employing robots to help us with as many aspects of life possible. After introducing robots in various roles and hospitals and certainly restaurants and nursing homes and schools, a cafe in Tokyo is going to open with robotic waiters controlled remotely, controlled remotely by people with physical disabilities who couldn't work otherwise. Now, the Oriheim D-Robots, as they're called, used at the Don Verbeda Cafe, are 1.2 meters tall, weigh about 20 kilograms, carry a camera and a speaker, and stream footage to the controller's PC or tablet over the internet. The pilot run of the cafe is scheduled for weekdays, November 26th through December 7th, so we'll know quite a bit more in a couple of months. And the creator of the robots, Ori Laboratory, plans to open a permanent cafe with robot waiters closer to the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics. Yeah, shout out to Engadget where we found this story. And I like it because it's not another story of autonomous robots. It's a story of using robots to help people do something they couldn't otherwise, with, you know, work in a cafe. Yeah, it's a good feel, good story, with a nice technology, you know, overlaid to it. And I like the idea of being able to employ people who you said couldn't otherwise, you know, get employed somewhere. And I think that's fantastic. It gives people a sense of self-worth that they still are valuable, they're still unneeded in society. And, you know, that's where technology should be going towards it, you know, in my opinion, at least part of it. I know there's going to be some people out there like, oh, really nice, make them work. But it's not so much about the work, although Lamar pointed out, you know, having an opportunity for employment that you wouldn't have otherwise is a good thing. But also just the ability to interact with people in a way that you couldn't otherwise. I mean, there's even a version of this for ALS where they're using eye movements to control the robots similar to the way Stephen Hawking interact with them. It's really impressive stuff. I don't know how you could say anything bad about this. I mean, it's amazing. I'm sure somebody will figure it out. I'm sure somebody will. I don't know how you could, though. Hey, folks, if you want to get all the tech headlines each day in about five minutes, be sure to subscribe to dailytechheadlines.com. All right. Ubico announced the next series of its physical security keys series five, starting at 45 bucks. It's the first Yubi-Key series to support Fido 2. The new series includes Yubi-Key 5 NFC, which supports all major security protocols over USB and NFC. Microsoft announced, you know, the password list login using Microsoft Authenticator for Azure earlier. We mentioned that. So there's a lot of stories, and we've talked about some others earlier last week, about progress towards getting rid of passwords. We're not there yet. You're not going to be able to stop using your password manager or forget your passwords anytime soon. But Lamar, how are you feeling about moving down this road where you use a physical thing like a Yubi-Key? I was very against it when it came out, because I didn't understand it. But I did. I have actually, oh, that's why I was fishing in my drawer. I have a, you know, what's it called? Yubi-Key? Yeah. Yubico key? Because Yubi-Key. Yeah. Then I have the Fido thing. So I have a couple of these, and I've been interested in, Google recently came out with their own that employs Bluetooth, which is a little controversial in the security sector. But I like the idea of being able to lock down my Google. That's really what Google accounts specifically, although LastPass and some others are on board with that as well. And yeah, I think we're going to have these, my key on me anyway, or in my wallet or whatever. That nice extra layer of security that used to be only reserved for politicians, athletes, celebrities. Nowadays, anybody who's an influencer on the line is a target in any capacity. Yeah. And so being able to have your account locked down better than two factors authentication, I think it's a plus. I have not yet set mine up, because I know it's a hassle once you do it. Once you commit, you're in, and you can only use a specific browser. There's some annoyances with it, but I think if they make it easier for the end user consumer level, this is where we're going in the future. I'm all for it. Yeah. And these cannot be tampered with. They're pretty solidly security tested. The reason that the Bluetooth version from Google is a little more controversial is because it transmits through the air, there's a chance for a man in the middle attack. Now, Google says they've taken lots of precautions to stop that, but there's a tiny bit more of a surface area for attack than with a key. You can't reprogram the key. The key is the key. Once you've matched it to your account, the only way someone could use it is if they stole your key and also knew all your passwords, right? The idea for getting rid of passwords is that there'll be another factor besides your password. So maybe it'll be your thumbprint. Maybe it'll be your facial recognition, et cetera, et cetera, and then the key. So then they'd have to steal your face and the key or more practical is probably trying to fool Face ID with a picture of you or something like that, which, again, is a little bit more of a surface area attack than the key. But the key itself is actually really solid. And now that they're combining NFC with USB-A, USB-C in more ways, it becomes more practical because I know plenty of people who work at an enterprise level where this works great because they plug it into their computer to sign on and they're securely signed on to their enterprise VPN. But it doesn't really work for your phone. It doesn't really work for this or that. Or I have to have a second one for my phone because of NFC. Those are some of the smaller hurdles that need to be overcome. And this new line of Ubico is another step towards making it simpler because you need to make it simple to get mass adoption. Yeah. Now, how do you get companies on board like an Apple? Obviously Google's on board, but how do you, you know, I know there's one example. Microsoft could be another. But how do you convince them or maybe just the public, so the public can put pressure on these companies that consumers need these as well. Yeah, I don't feel like Apple's resisting this in any way. It's really just a matter of getting a public adoption. Well, no, you can use Ubiqui with a Mac. You can use it with an iPhone. It's all about being able to use it to authenticate with the software developers, with the app makers, with the services and things like that. So, yeah, I mean, I know it's not like Apple's dragging their feet on this. It's more of getting all of the programs and services to allow this and use this. And Beatmaster points out iPhone 7 and up. So if you have an older iPhone, it may not be as useful for you. But, yeah. I would say, yeah. I'm glad they made the USB-C option because all these computers are coming out with just, you know, USB-C right now. And it made me, you know, with my newer Mac, it made this one kind of weird to have. It's like, okay, I'm not going to put in the adapter to make this work. But, you know, I think it's a good process. And what is it? 45 books, which I think is a steal for security. Yeah. The alternative right now, if you want to be super solid secure, is an authenticator app. Something like Authy, Microsoft authenticator, LastPass, Google has one too. Right. You know, so I think more people are familiar with that and that feels right because you use it on your phone and you're less likely to lose your phone than you are maybe the Ubiqui, but Sarah, how do you feel about this? Anything that is physical that I can lose, you know, my gut reaction is, please now. However, I think if security is of the utmost concern, especially in the enterprise, then this seems to be the way that we're going. You know, we've kind of gone from USB drives to everything in the cloud to like, you know what, the physical key is actually the better way to do it. And for somebody who's been locked out of my one password account for months now, because I couldn't remember my master password, I, you know, it's certainly not human proof. So in that sense, I think that, yeah, the more options there are, the better, especially for the consumer, the consumers. And I think that's, that is the hurdle, right? You have to make this so that people feel comfortable using it instead of falling back on something they're familiar with, because if you lose your key, you know, if you forget your password like that, suddenly you're like, you know what, I don't want to use that kind of stuff anymore because it causes more problems than it solves. Even though that's probably not true, it feels that way. Yeah, it's funny. It's, you know, the way that sort of a, you know, a plane ticket, well, it's a little bit different now, but it's, in general, a plane ticket is like, you know, this is tender. You lose your ticket, you can't get on the plane or a concert ticket and, you know, getting into your computer you have this thing that is on your person. And if you don't have it, you can't get in. And that is actually the best way to keep yourself, you know, more secure is, in some ways, to me, a little counterproductive, but we have so many options and this is actually the best way it works. Yeah, I think, I think we get to a point real quick before we move on. If, you know, if we're able to use the NFC that's built into the phone as to touch your computer somehow, like, you know, I think mass adoption will be a lot easier than trying to carry around a key. I don't know how far we are with that. I mean, all phones have NFC now, whether they let you into it, like, you know, Apple, let you in on a limited basis, depending on the developer, but I think that will be the better solution, Sarah, than the key I hear you on that. Everybody has their phone on them. Yeah, and the key is more secure, theoretically, because again, it's in your phone. There's a little more surface area for attack again. But it could be the kind of thing where like, if you're serious about security, you get a key. But for mass adoption of something that is at least more secure than not having a second factor or using text messages as a second factor and is easier than an authenticator app, then yeah, maybe that maybe that is one of the ways. This is one where we'd like to hear your actual expert opinions. We have experts on this in the audience, so send us not only your credentials, but also why it is you think we haven't seen this built into the phones yet. Feedback at DailyTechNewShow.com. We see a lot of these stories in our subreddit, so keep them coming. We love you helping us make our show every day, our shows. Submit stories and vote on them at DailyTechNewShow.Reddit.com. We're also on Facebook, Facebook.com, slash groups, slash Daily Tech New Show. Well, so Lamar and I have something in common. Do you now? Well, we hopefully have many things in common, but one of them is that we've both got the new iPhone over the weekend. Lamar, how's it going on your end? So it's going great in terms of I got over the whole, oh my God, I can't believe I spent this much money and I'm really glad I have it. I'm still not over that part. Yeah, really glad I have it. It was one of those situations where I knew I would need, because I got it Saturday at the store. So I knew I would need a few hours because Apple's got to look, well, I don't know if it's Apple or the developer. It's gotten a little better when you back up your phone and you put everything back on there. Some apps already let you, already assigned you in, like I think, you know, like I don't know, a random GameStop or Best Buy or a few of those already had my stuff in there. Oh, there's like Twitter and Instagram and Facebook. You got to go in there and re, you know, re-add your password to every app. And you have a lot of apps that's a pain in the butt. So I spent the whole night just doing that. Yeah. Yeah. For getting to marry with it. I mean, it's a bigger phone. It has a better camera. Other than that, I could have kept my 10 with, with iOS 12, because iOS 12 was amazing. And, but I do like the bigger screen. Cause I had this, what was the seven? That was a big screen, the 5.5. Yeah. Well, it's, the sixth plus was the first big screen, but yeah, the seven. Yeah. This feels right. Like it's, it's a nice bulkier phone. I've already adapted to it. So, I think I probably had to make a little bit more of a jump the new Lamar because I never had the 10. I went from the seven plus to the 10 s max, which was not without its issues because I am a Verizon customer. And this is actually a known issue. It was written up over the weekend, but on Friday it got delivered right before our show up. Very excited. And it just wouldn't activate. And what I ended up having to do after many hours on tech support with both Apple and Verizon, and both of them saying, we don't know what's wrong. Just can't activate your phone. I had to go to a red store and get a new SIM. That totally fixed the problem. So, after, after that whole debacle when my phone actually worked, I still like, I'm getting used to not having a home button because I did this whole time. Oh, that's right. You jumped. I am not used to. Yeah. Like I skipped that whole cycle. So, you know, I know I'm a little, you know, I feel like a little bit like, how does this work? And the first couple of hours I was like, well, I don't like this at all. I really want my home button back. Yeah. But man, you get used to it pretty quick. Do you find the face ID to be really fast? Like, I know you didn't have to attend. Oh, yeah. But my God, it's fast right now. Yeah. It's fast to the point where I'm like, did you even see me just now? I mean, that was, yeah, that worked out really well. Yeah. I thought I would, I'm going to miss touch ID because touch ID give me this sense of security. Like it's my finger print. I'm touching it. Yeah. But I'm very happy with the phone. I will say the only thing about the OLED screen, and I hope this isn't because I have a faulty phone, is it doesn't seem at its full brightness as bright as I would like. I don't know if that's a known issue. I'm going to have an OLED TV and it doesn't like, I feel like it mutes the bright. I'm not a professional on this. I just feel like, Yeah. It's less brighter than my LCD. I'm just saying at full brightness with an LCD, I want it to be too bright. Yeah. And at full brightness with my LCD, it's just bright enough. And I wouldn't ever turn it down. Tom, you got any feedback on how OLED works? I bought a house. So, you know, I have a nice new shelf liners and an instinct laundry trainer. Those are my new products of the weekend. You got enough to deal with, man. All right. Well, before we go down too much of an iPhone rabbit hole, thank you to Lamar Wilson for being with us this fine Monday. Lamar, besides having a new toy, what's been going on in your world? What's a new toy? That's it. As usual, I do YouTube, YouTube.com slash Lamar Wilson. I did a long rambly video about my process of not only buying this, but being convinced at the store to get the watch, which I already had the Series 3. It was fine, but I fell in love with this one so much. So, I processed that, my thoughts. That's my latest video on YouTube. You want to check it out? I do unboxings and reactions of all sorts of new products. That's kind of my thing. 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Back tomorrow with Michael Wolfe as our guest. Talk to you then. Who is part of the Frog Pants Network? Get more at frogpants.com. Bob, I hope you have enjoyed this program. We had a great time this morning. Oh, we didn't mention macOS and Mojave at all. We didn't get the Mojave or the watch. You're right. We ran out of time. Yeah. But it's out today. Download. Did you install it, LaBar? I did. Yeah. So, I guess we could, yes. Post-show, we can mention it. So, first, and I'm, because I have it on my MacBook Pro, but I'm on two monitors connected, you know, hooked up. I am kind of in awe of the dark mode. Am I gonna like this but I really dig it and that shows my age using our word But I had a I had a kind of a technical question for either the chat or you time or Sarah You all are way more knowledgeable than me. Does using dark mode use less power or is it just less straining on the eyes? I mean, I know it's me. I mean it might use a tiny bit less power I doubt okay because I think the monitors are on they're on right Yeah, and I think the monitor has to emit power to make black To make you see on your screen versus the kind of Drab grayish black that you see when the I mean I use power for the same reason. So, you know That was a bad joke. That was terrible Responsibly and I appreciate Yeah, but I power like yours Thank you spider-man Uh, but no I I haven't dug in because I did it right before the show That was pretty daring like anything could have gone wrong and I wouldn't have been on on on the show today But uh, yeah, the dark mode has all been able to play with I oh, I know there's the the new news thing is That I've been looking forward to having apple news on the desktop. So, uh, I just saw the icon down there now I think I didn't realize it was a dark mode. That's that's actually it's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah It all all my apps Yeah, all the main apps have it Um, I maybe things like chrome like I have chrome now. Let me just click it that might have to they google might have to enable it So, yeah, chrome is not a dark mode unless you Google I'm sure they'll do an update on it. Anybody been looking at titles title ideas Well, I can certainly get in there All right, you become safer with you because you became You become safer with you because you became I mean it's not funny But it's really good I was looking for the joke. I'm like, wait, I I mean, oh, it just means what it says and it's snappy Oh, it's you become I get it now What what if Could we could we spell it like why you become Would that I don't think I think I'm just my brains fried. I think I might have got it. Just take this piece. I'll be No, no, no, I mean I I'm saying for myself as well. Maybe that would be or we could yeah, we could spell it why you bi c o m e safer with you because you be No, maybe too much You're right I'm glad you pulled me back I liked it. I liked it Um, there's a couple from lower down that I really like like are you serious pandora? That was me That was me. Thank you. Thank you I will take 10% of the show's profits today. Thank you. Damn Yeah, you just got that house too. You might want to rethink No, I actually felt like we overdid it at bed, bath and beyond On sunday everybody I heard you guys talking about how much the phone cost and I'm like, you know, we spent a lot less than that No, I I overdo it every time I walk in there It's it is it is my weakness. I even I part of the bed bath beyond plus whatever it is So I got the coupon on my hand and my phone. So the 20% that's completely worth it by the way In sfa not safe for apple Was the other one that I really like that's not really true though Is it oh, you mean for the tv stuff, right? Yeah for the shows I do like the ubeq thing because it was our main topic. Yeah I do too. Even though are you serious pandora is pretty good so good though no, it's the your your audience is more of the the Probably the security tech You people like that security there's no lamar and hour It's not like when they're bad they're lamar's audience and when they're good, they're ours You should see my comments, um You guys supposed to read those you don't that's exactly how it is. Don't read the comments and don't feel uh, I know 10 years later. I still read I still yeah Well, I filter out a lot of the most of the bad stuff, you know, thank goodness for for you know word filters Yeah, it took me three takes to do daily tech headlines this morning too because of all those sorts Weird to have just a different position and set of visuals everything. Yep. Mm-hmm because you're looking at different stuff too. Yeah My timing was all off this morning because I didn't didn't have the same cues that I I used to have like You know as soon as I hear the concrete trucks pulling up to the construction site across the street I'd know what time it was Time to do headline. Yeah, no, I hear you trucks are here and I haven't taken the dogs out yet Yeah, there's some there's Even down to like a 10 minute thing It's like if I were to sit in a different part of my house doing headlines, for example, you know, because that starts early It's like I could do it, but everything would feel weird Um, and and sometimes Eileen's morning schedule changes and that'll throw me off You know, it's like, oh wait, she's not going into work till 10 today I can't wait for her to leave to do the next thing like Like when you leave so I could live my life Right Yeah, you're cramping my style and that's why I'm single Yeah, I did these three days off and today I had to Get up early to take the kids their physical therapy part of the problem of having an athletic family is that you have injuries So I had to take two of the kids to physical therapy this morning Tomorrow I got to go to the airport early like at five o'clock in the morning to pick up my sister-in-law from her vacation So the only day on my little three day vacation I'm actually going to get to sleep in is wednesday if I if something doesn't come up then so It's like, oh, I was really hoping to be able to Enjoy these three days Sorry Yeah, I feel like it's my fault somehow I feel like it's your fault He was actually apologizing for you Lamar exactly Uh, the cool thing about this shot as wide as it is right now. I don't know how long it will stay this wide but Is that uh, if I can get the lugs in here, you might actually be able to see them You look like you could You look like you could do a uh, uh, you ready for a piano concert right now. Like like it looks like yeah Yeah, yeah with the mic there. Yeah, it's sure to yeah Definitely. Yeah, it's like and now an old standard Go ahead elton professor merit. I remember when rock was young At the los angeles uh school of the arts Will now I'll perform for a lease Were you able to um Well, I'm not gonna say your area, but I know they're getting 18t put lines down there for for um For gigabit or did you get any information? Ah Because I saw them putting lines in that neighborhood about six months ago Yeah, no, they're they're too far over right now the the guy when he was here was like looking at the poll He's like, let me tell you if it's close. He's like it's not on your poll yet. So But yeah, good to see they're working on it Because I don't what oh, I guess I don't know why l.a. So behind it Yeah, I do because because I was talking to his friends in new york and they all have gigabit there It's like because with all those people they're able to do that But the land is so spread out here And I'm sure the hills and things make it hard I mean the hill's being alive, but the sound of music doesn't help come in Oh, you'll show my baby Where where are the puppies? She she walked up with a toy and then left she's like no you follow me Yeah, she's like you forgot whose house this is the dog training the master Now I am the master Now I'm gonna get back to publishing the show then Yeah, I got it. I want to I want to see them son Like I like other people's dogs. I just don't want to have one Oh the mart hold on to that I'll tell you As a new dog owner Love other people's dogs. Yeah, he's sitting over there. What did that happen? Um like a month ago Um, okay, it's new it's new. No, I and I'm kidding. I love him very much. Yo, you did did I ever That's all I instagram now. I have Well, see I look at a lot of pets I look a lot of pets on um on instagram So I probably saw him and just passed by because I got I got a cat feed and a dog feed I watch Oh, that is no puppy Good lordy big Okay, ain't nobody breaking in anytime soon. No, no, that's not a puppy. That's a used dog That's That's a big one So cute though. Yeah All right, he yeah, he's huge. Oh, you couldn't hear me this whole time Now I was saying that I was like, that's no puppy. That's uh, that's a big dog head in my hands here Oh She says she says I like the new studio. I think it's pretty cool She's a sweetheart Did they have a a better backyard now? Oh, yeah grass. Okay. Nice That's awesome. Yeah, that helps a lot too. The grass is temporary Not just because it's la but because there's dogs. Yeah A friend of mine um, who is from the east coast and visiting venice, um She had to waste some time before I was able to meet her yesterday and and she was like, yeah I was sitting on like that like very uh thin patch of grass, you know Kind of like between where you live and the beach and I was like That's dog grass. Don't Don't sit there My dog alone has soiled the grass in a way that you just wouldn't want to sit on it But you but you pick it up and use a hose use a hose and and and blow it all off, right? You know, like let you carry water with you in the hose and no, okay I I do my best I do my best as do all the dog owners That says it's still, you know, there's grass. Yeah, there's always a few There's always a few who don't pick up. Yeah. Yeah, I always pick up anything you can pick up But then there's things that you know, yeah, it's just yeah, I wouldn't sit on the grass No, I wouldn't do it. And I don't want anyone else to be there For sure. Yeah, Lotus says, you know what? This is a little bit rude That's that's that's where I go It's like, why are we talking about this? I don't talk about visiting your bathroom Trying to sit down on your toilet You guys are your porcelain gods So what so what compelled you because you're you're a cat person, aren't you? Yes, um, I don't know really, uh, I um, you don't know why you bought a 60 pound dog Oh, he's probably more than 60, 80 pounds. Okay. Yeah. He's a huge giant. Um I don't know. I don't know Uh, all I know is that now he lives here and he's part of the family And he's no he's not going anywhere and these things just happen sometimes Okay, and he poops a lot in the grass and but otherwise we're all very happy But yeah, no, that's it. That's a uh, it's a real thing. It's great. I love him. He's he's a wonderful dog but yes, it's my um My getting my getting used to dogs and how dogs are and just dog schedules and the whole thing is um Has been uh a lot and I would caution anyone who wants to get a dog to really think about that How did your how did your cat or cats take take to them? They love them. They're just like, oh, okay, whatever Fine, you live here now. They've they've been super cool about it. And I know it could be worse And he doesn't have an issue with them either. In fact, he's Constantly looking for their approval. You're saying they're completely passive, which is actually a sign of affection for cats He's passive They're not passive towards him if he gets too close he he gets swiped But then he'll be like, I'm sorry and like go like sit in the corner and feel bad So, you know, yeah, you know The cartoons always taught us that the dogs were the aggressor But I've been watching many many videos and it's like it is the cats that the cats are the aggressor Most time towards a dog and the dog shrinks back I really do I see a dog going after yeah, but the cats use diplomacy for their aggression They you know, they they sort of trick the dogs into crossing the line so they can declare war That is actually very true. Yeah They're like we've been here 11 years. Who are you? You know, the dog's like, I don't know. I have no idea who I am. I'll do whatever you want. Oh, it is I guess Like she named me that like a month ago This is one of the reasons I love the movie pets Because it has that relationship where the the dog's been around for a while and then the new dog moves in And yeah, that was a good one. They have that, you know, that that relationship of oh I've already been here. Who were you to come in here and try to demand to use my stuff? And it's just that's exactly what I imagined the entire time I was a kid and we had multiple, you know Different pets or whatever. It's always what it is. Yeah Yeah, I keep waiting for them all to like cuddle together, you know, like instagram worthy stuff That's not happening But it's also early days and the fact that, you know, no one's chasing anybody or you know, for the most part It's it's pretty harmonious is Did you do the whole breaking period where he stayed in a room for a couple weeks away from them or Because you know, you know, with some cats sometimes he has a crate So he's still we you know, we we are creating when it's appropriate, you know When it's time for him to chill overnight and stuff like that So there's plenty of room for my cats to be like we got the lay of the land, you know, we're not um, you know feeling like They still run the roost. Um, so yeah, it's an ongoing thing We had a uh, we had a my first wife and I we had a well, I I inherited a cat when I married her And not long after we got married. We got a dog and the dog would basically we had one room Blocked off that became the nursery when we eventually had my oldest amber But we had that room blocked off and that was tabby's room She could go in there and cinnamon couldn't make it couldn't get in the room And we would always find cinnamon laying down in a room somewhere and tabby would be leaving And eventually we started catching him tabby would actually cuddle with cinnamon like lay like right inside her legs And then as soon as we came in tabby would hop up and run out like no, you can't see It was a forbidden love perhaps That's so cute. See I want I want that to happen in my house. I'm not sure if it's You gotta put up hidden cameras Right, well, I mean my cat sam who's a boy and Otis is a boy as well It's like they've got a thing going on Sam is very obsessed with Otis But wants Otis to know that he's you know, he he's the man of the house kind of thing So they're they're they're around each other They're in each other's orbits, but they're not cuddling My cat Lucy is just like peace out all y'all. I don't even know Like I'm tired. I'm gonna go take a nap in the sun We're gonna continue this conversation in audio, but we're gonna say peace out all y'all to the video folks Thanks for watching and uh, how do you folks stick around there's more to come