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I'm brilliant, thank you. Thank you for having me. Thanks for coming on Charlotte, Hollywood actress. We're in many films, Ocean's Out is it? Ocean's Out, yes. You like your horror films, you've been in a few horror films. You're also well known for exposing a lot of that stuff in Hollywood which we'll get into but first and foremost how about you? I'm really good, I'm in a really really good place at the moment actually. You're looking real. Thank you, yeah I am, I am. Trying to work on me a little bit more then. Yeah, that's the main thing. Before we get into everything I always like to go back to the start of my guests. Get about understanding about you, where you grew up and how it all began. Where it all started, a small time girl. So yeah, I was born and raised in South East London, Bexley Heath. I am the youngest, one brother, one sister and three half brothers from my dad's previous marriage. And I was diagnosed with autism and Asperger's growing up. So it wasn't, school wasn't easy for me, I really actually hated it. But sorry that's my dog under the table scratching the walls. It's not me. She's definitely special needs as well. And yeah, I just hated school but I always had a love for the arts acting. And I did acting in school, I took acting classes and then I asked my mom and dad if I could enroll in acting school at the weekends, which I did. And then after secondary school, I had to go to university to, I need to do drama. And then I went to a telecom team in Kent at the weekends, the Miskin Theatre. And then when I was 19, I just wanted to get the fuck out. I just wanted to get out. I just felt I was, I always knew I was different. Like, but not in a, well, not in a good way. I mean, that's the silly thing to say, but that's how I felt back then. Like, I just wanted to just, I felt like I was trapped. I was trapped in Kent in this, in this world. And I just wanted, I don't know, there was a big wide world out there and I wanted to get the hell out. When I was 19, I explored some modeling agencies in London and some commercial modeling. And it was just then I just, I just, I just was networking as much as possible, doing what I could do and just trying to break down that door. But it's difficult. You know, I think, especially in the UK, if you hadn't, if you come back then, I think, so maybe I'm wrong, but I personally think that it's still a very, very tough industry to, to break into even now then in the future, it just is. And someone said to me, Charlotte, if you want to be an actor and you want to be an actress, you want to do it for real, go to the US. And I was like, okay, not here, no, go to the US. That's where the opportunities are. So when I was 19, without thinking twice, I went to the US and the rest is history. See when you get diagnosed with autism, because that was relatively unknown then. It's only been recently when everybody seems to be getting diagnosed with ADHD autism, whether that's to do with vaccines and that, I don't know. But how was it then, did you understand it then? There's a lot more, everything's labels now. So everything's looking like that. But then, did you feel like odd one out? It was even worse though then, because I was labeled and definitely the odd one out. It was absolutely horrendous. I always had a help us sit next to me in class, which I hated. It was just having this like cloud over me. And like, why is she got someone looking after her? Is she stupid? She's like, oh, it was just awful. My mum and dad were thinking, oh, maybe she should go into like a special school. And I didn't, I went to a regular normal school. But I had help, which was just, you know, kids like, horrible. You believed? Oh, yes. Yes. I was the stupid, thick kid that wasn't going to go anywhere. It was just, it didn't help that my previous name was Dyke. That, I got bullied a lot for that. So the thick, stupid Dyke girl, it was just awful. That's why I adopted my mum's maiden name. So, yes, I think that was, that was one of the reasons why I think I just, I just didn't like my childhood much really, I guess, to be quite honest. I mean, they were, my mum and dad were great and they were supportive, but I wouldn't say I loved, you know, and that maybe that's why I love acting so much. It was escapism, isn't it? Yeah. Do you think, because obviously speaking about it, I see you getting emotional. Is that, do you try to block that out for so long? You kind of just don't want to touch on it. Well, you just want to run away and forget, no matter if it's in America. Yeah, I think it's a constant thing of running away, running away. When do you face it though? Have you ever faced it? No, I don't know. I don't know if I have ever faced it. Because being an actress and also many comedians and the best people in the world, but they're so fucked up, they're so fucked up, the laughter and the jokes. It's so hard to maintain, to be funny all the times. It's not a natural thing for a human to just be cracking jokes and giving all your energy away to make other people laugh at the dispense of your own fucking misery. So I understand that I've not had many actresses on, but I know that side of it as well, because it's still an escape, no matter what it is. And I always use that word. But you know yourself that was acting a big part of being somebody else from a very young age. Yes. For me, speaking being myself is very difficult. Acting is part, it's just easy for me. I don't have to, it's a mask. So I have the freedom. I feel like I have the freedom to explore and to be and do anything I want and not have to worry about being judged. Even though you are constantly being judged, I don't really care about that. As long as I know I did the best that I could do in the performance and I was as truthful as I could be, that's all that matters to me. What makes a good actress? Being as truthful as possible, being truthful in that moment. And that's what I love about acting most, apart from escapism and all that, I think it's the freedom and being in the moment. Because it's a great intro and brando when he says about actors being in the moment and he was interviewed once and he said to the person talking to him, he said, well, you're acting now. Everyone's acting. It's a persona. This is for everyone. We're all actors. And he's right. He said to my acting coach, Susan Batson, who's absolutely incredible, she says, if we don't act, we would be crying all the time, because we're such a vulnerable human beings. And if we were just real for a second and didn't have this mask and this public persona and all of this stuff covering what we really want, would be a mess. The world would be a mess. But that's why I guess people turn to drugs and alcohol and all this stuff because you lose your inhibition and you become real, I guess, in a way. Yeah, we lose our true identity from a young age, especially when you look at the stats of kids laughing. I think it's like four or five hundred times a day, kids smile or laugh. By the time you're 18, it's less than 10. So something's knocking away from that childhood, from that laughter, from that just playing with absolutely nothing in your pocket. We're just free. But then everything becomes controlled, everything becomes free. Everything becomes heavy, everything becomes dark. And the world's a mess. I don't have never came across anybody that's got it figured out or I think you've got it figured out because we all talk a lot of shit. Me, you, that's my job is just the full-time bullshit. And I try and be as honest as I can be, but you ever truly honest with yourself because life is so fucking hard? I think you are. If you are on substances, that's really fucking bad. Isn't it to say that? But I think it's true. When I am drunk or, you know, whatever, I am very fucking real. I say things that I would never, ever, ever say unless, you know, because you look at guards down or when I'm acting. Again, that's why I love acting because I'm in the moment. I am not thinking of tomorrow, last week, whatever. I'm in this moment. And that's probably why you love what you do because you're in this moment now and it's fucking great. But if just day-to-day stuff is, everyone's always, it's really hard for humans, I think, to live in that moment. Just to be. That's the power of now, that's something I always promote. But again, when I do interviews, you're switched on. So you can't multitask. It's just that moment. After that, you're thinking, did I do well? How's it going to go? Who should I get next? It's just constant pressure. How's my kids? How's my mum? Everybody's just at pressure. Especially for a man. But I guess women obviously feel the same. It's not just men have it hard. Everybody fucking struggles. What was your first ever part? Oh, gosh. Nothing meaty. A part actually going on set. Yeah, just like first like drama. But what was the first time you went on stage or even in class? Oh, stage is different. I remember in Italia Conti going on stage and performing and singing and all that good stuff. That's amazing. Of course, stage is very, very different to film. But my first set experience was I was in LA and I got a job playing a corpse. I played a dead body. Yes, that was pretty horrific. But just being on set was amazing. But before I went to the States, I was going to go to Paris actually, live in Paris. I met a few modern agencies out there and they said, I thought, oh, maybe that's a way in through the door. Fact in, I didn't know how to. And so I met with this agency. They said, yes, come live in Paris for a year. Cut your hair, do this, do that, live here. Okay. I went to New York and then I was like, Paris, no, fuck it. I have New York. That's has to be. That's what I really want. So I would say my first proper, proper acting role was actually a comedy that I did with Stephen Baldwin. No panic with the hints of hysteria. And that was a great movie. But a great part anyway. I'm proud of that movie as well. But it's just every onset experience is different. Every role is different. Every, and I get asked this, oh, what's the difference between big set and a indie film and a studio film? It's all the same. All boys down to the same thing. If I'm acting alongside Sandra Bullock or another great actor who's not a big star, it doesn't matter. It's all the same, all the same. So you went to New York first? Yep. What was that feeling like stepping off the plane? Was it a sense of freedom? Or were you scared? I think it might be part of my autism, but I don't see fear as much. I don't see fear. Certain things, like me going to New York on my own. I got off the plane and I was like, oh, great. Okay, I'm here. And then literally as soon as I got off the plane, I had to go to a casting. And I booked that job as well, actually. And I was shooting that week after in Cabo. So I was like, fuck, I'm in New York and now I'm in Cabo. And now I'm here and now it's loving it, loving it. It's interesting though, like looking back, I just felt like I was just on this running machine just going, going, going, going. Kind of like I am now, but I'm trying to take a breath, stop, enjoy it a little bit more now. That's what I'm really trying to do because I, what's the point, right? Unless you enjoy what you do. So I'm really trying to do that at the moment. But yeah, 19 to, you know, a good 10 years in the States. I was just on my own, New York first for six months. I lived on 92nd Madison and I was hustling, auditioning, this and that and moving, shaking, just, just feeling New York. And then a lot of the jobs, a lot of auditions I was getting was in LA. So I was there for six months and then I moved to LA. So New York for me doesn't seem as dark. I don't know, I've never lived there, but LA seems to be satanic, fucking dark, seedy. Just, there's a different feeling from New York. It's New York a bit cleaner for auditions and it's not so much the casting couch. It's not, it's just the pick more for all talent or is it the same as LA? I think it's the same everywhere. Weinstein was there. I met Bob actually in Bob Weinstein's brother in New York. How was, how was he? Harvey Weinstein's brother. Oh, how was he? Seedy? Yeah. I'd be careful what I say. I don't want to be a defamation or anything. Yeah, I don't fucking care. You can tell me how. So when did you kind of, when did you realize a young girl, probably naive, but immature autism as well? You could probably be manipulated to a certain degree where people just raid on you, grooming, you know yourself how the game operates, but when did you start seeing the kind of dark side of it that this ain't normal, especially if somebody's given their whole life moving away from their family to make it and people are saying, listen, I can give you the golden keys, but you've got to do A, B and C. When did you start seeing the dark side of acting? I don't think I did until quite a few years later, to be honest, or I was in denial. Could be many things and if I was in denial or I knew, but I just covered it up or, obviously now I know hindsight's a great thing and it's, I'm absolutely disgusted and appalled by my experiences and what I've had to witness and gone through. I met actually Kevin Gersh. He runs autistic schools in America. He's autistic himself. I met him in New York and he said to me, from the moment I met you and saw you, I was worried about you. We're friends, he said, but I was worried about you because I could see the first thing he said to me was at a party and he said, I said, what'd you do? And he's like, oh, I'm autistic. I run autistic schools. I'm like, I said, oh, I am, I'm autistic. And he was like, yeah, I can see that. Really, really lovely guy. And he was so young and naive and he was like, he told me a while back when I was so worried about you because you were hungry, you're ambitious, you're going there with your eyes open. Well, not with your eyes open. That's the problem. I thought I was. How much does the glitz and the glams and the cameras and the fame kind of block away? What people have to go through, a young girl going there, being groomed, being abused. How much does they actually try and block it out because they've got that goal set that they want fame? Once they actually get fame, they realise it doesn't really mean fuck all anyway. Doesn't mean anything. I think every girl's different. Some girls don't care. Some girls don't care. Some girls will do what it takes. You like that at the start though? Every situation was different, right? So it's so hard because people like to, people like to, as you said, name tag you. Oh, okay. So this happened to Charlotte. Or this is what I've read about Charlotte. So she's a bruised fruit. Oh, she's a victim or she's a perpetrator. They like to label it. It's just so much more complicated than that. It's just not that simple. It's in general, it's not, if you're a victim of sexual assault, for example, does that make you a victim? That doesn't define you. You are not a victim. I'm not Charlotte the victim. I think that's a difficult one to navigate. How is it though, when you're sitting in a room with these powerful men who had budget and funds for hundreds of millions, who've then got that kind of green light to go, okay, you're getting the part. They're not really picking you on the part. They're picking you on the favors that you do for them. How hard does that when people aren't getting picked in talent? And then you see young male and female, both who are doing things to try and, I don't know, it's just, it's so hard to play. It's so hard to kind of speak. But how is it when you're in a room with these powerful men? Do you feel overpowered? Or do you think seeded bastard? Or do you just, or do you not even know then? Because when you look at the Weinstein stuff, that's pure blatant stuff. It's absolutely blatant and the people they mixed with, the people they went with. Come to my hotel room, you mean stuff like that? Come to my hotel room. But grabbing them in and saying, like weird, that's fucking dark shit. Do you know what I mean? It's not a case of, listen, there's a part of you do this for me. They're grabbing, they're demanding. The seeded, they're overpowered and it's the same as the Philip Scofield stuff, I believe he's groomed that young boy at 10. He's told them, he's been visiting them. He's been going to his drama schools and he's given them a part on the show. That's grooming, that's make someone and power grooming. No matter if you sit waited at 16, it's still wrong because that's the sense that you're using your power to groom a young innocent boy. But then you've been there, Hollywood, there's a part, but they'll plant the seeds and then they'll wait and wait and then they'll pound so on as if, see a lot of these big producers, did it fear as if the youth, there's a lot of people fear as if that people owe them something because they've given them a part? Oh yeah, a lot of them feel like that. I think that just doesn't work though. I think your talent shines through, so what about your talent to a certain degree and who you know, but not the sexual side of, oh, I know that person so I have to sleep with them. No, it doesn't work like that. Because a lot of these people, these powerful people, they say they want to help you, but they don't, they don't want you to succeed. Because if you succeed, you have a voice. If you have a voice, you'll out them or they're scared that you're going to tell the truth. And they don't want that. They're sadists, they suppress it. They'll do the opposite. They'll say, oh, I'll help you, I'll do this and that. They will not want to do that. They do not. They're very, very, very bad people. There's a lot of awful, awful people in Hollywood. And I think, you know, when I came across quite a few very, very powerful people in the industry and in the world, and you know, it's a lot of different feelings and emotions. First, it's, fuck, like this is really, this is, this is a fucking really powerful person here. Like, wow. I mean, you're in awe of them for a second. And then they do something or physically or mentally and you think, fuck, what the fuck just happened here? This person is evil or this person just did this to me. What the fuck do I do? Or maybe it's my fault or, yeah, but then this is kind of, it's so fucking, it's just not ever straightforward. Or even your emotions inside. It's like, yeah, but this happened. But then you try and sympathize with them. It goes into like maybe, not Stockholm syndrome, but like, you kind of feel like, but maybe it is my fault. Oh, but maybe then you go back for more and then you meet this person again. And it's. Start blaming yourself. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Definitely. And these people definitely have no emotion. Well, I read something the other day, like 50 or 60% of CEOs, all psychopaths, they have no emotions that they're just not, they can't. They're just everything is, they look at you like an object, a piece of meat. They're narcissists, they're sadists, they have no emotions. Not even with their families, I think. Honestly, I don't think they do. I think they look at everyone like objects. Isn't that the definition of narcissism, I think? A psychotic. Psychotic, but they are. He's a very powerful people. You think, how did you get to this position? You fucked a lot of people on the way to get to the top. And they look at you and they go, okay. Okay. Oh, yeah, I'll say this and I'll say that and I'll pretend I'll do this. But they don't even fucking do it anyway. It's not even like they're half decent person. I'll say, okay, yeah, I maybe I manipulated her a bit and this and that, but I'm actually going to help her because she's a nice person. But then it's not even that. It's just, I'm going to get what I want, then I'm going to do whatever I can to kick him to the curb. That's just a game to them. The higher up the rather you go, the darker it is. It's a power game because a lot of these people, a lot of powerful people around the world, they have all the money to hire in a school or have sex or pick up a girl in a bar or whatever. It's a power game. I think that's part of it. Look at me. I can give you everything, but deep down, I'm not going to give you anything, but I'll let you think that and yeah, come in here and I'll groom you and this and that and... But then, but also maybe they live on the edge because after me too and all this, it still goes on. I know so many other people that have ships happen to them after me too because they can't, is it because they can't help themselves? Or is it because these powerful people like to live on the edge? A lot of them like to, some like to be in control, some don't like to be in control. Maybe they think, I'm in control for a minute, but it's kind of hot and sexy that I could get caught any minute and I could end up in prison. Who knows what goes on in these crazy people's heads? But why the fuck would they still do it after the world right now? After me too. I've spoke to Dominatrix long, you've got billionaires who dress up as kids and put fucking nappies on and just weird stuff because... They can't help themselves. They cannot fucking help themselves. Because there's no meaning to money for them. Everything's a game. They want to hurt people, they want to break people down, they want to feel it in control. That's why I got to Dominatrix. So the control gets took away from them and they thrive on it. It's weird fucking shit. Look at Epstein, look at all the names it's on his list. It's all massive names, presidents, producers, high-profile names. Where's the fucking list? Everything's hidden because the people who control this world apparently listen, I don't know, I've not got concrete evidence. I can only watch a few videos and then make my own assumption. But I feel now the world's run by absolute lunatics. And you look at the trans movement and it's just fucking scary. The stuff that they're trying to push on to kids, they're doing a naked cycle there through London, grown men with their balls out, kids walking past. If that's you want to do that with kids there, then you're a sex case. If the parents take the kids there, they're sex cases. There's a guy on TikTok, he's got his son dressed as a girl and she's getting hormones. And 89, that's child abuse. For me, the trans movement is just kind of mutilation. And I think you make your own decisions at 18, not kids at 10, 11, 12, 13, 14. You're only a baby. They can't function. They can't understand life. And if you're promoting it in schools, then people will get that it's okay. It's not okay to be talking about mutilation, cutting off your tits. And they're talking about 80 to kids at 89. That's just pedophilia. Unless if you're not telling the parents what the shit that you're saying in school about transgender and being gay. And for me, I grew many kids. For me, all the teachers are what Terry Mullins who's a leading polygraph expert in the UK, bringing polygraph experts for every teacher, for every football coach, for every club scout, for every priest, for anybody who work in these places, a power that can abuse and manipulate kids. I've spoken to enough survivors now to understand the main places that they go for. They work in schools. They work as football coaches. Surrounded by kids where they can manipulate them. Go through a polygraph expert. You're sexually attracted to kids. That's it. Get the result back 15 minutes and people say, oh, it's they can be tricked. This and that. I would rather somebody lose a job than a kid being abused. Because if they get the polygraph result wrong, I would rather somebody lose a job than take the risk and a kid get abused. Kids need more protection. But I think human trafficking is at the ultimate high. It's the ultimate money maker now. It's took over drugs because I've kidnapped people and they're selling their organs, their heart, their liver, their kidneys. And they're also selling them on for prostitutes and so much stuff for the human trafficking side of things. Yeah, but human trafficking, people, this is very interesting. People when they think of human trafficking, they think of that a girl or a child getting adopted in a foreign country and being shipped somewhere. And that happens, that is trafficking. But also sex trafficking is you making someone have sex with your friend or your partner or this or that and getting paid for it. So, you know, some would say, you know, out there that that's that potentially happened to me. I have to be careful what I can say at this point. And as you said, it happens in every single industry. It's not just Hollywood. Hollywood's bad. Hollywood just brings out the scum. There's something about LA, about energy. There's, it's just awful, awful, awful town. There's great people, but there's awful people. But in every single industry, there's just perverts. Awful, awful, awful. You know, like I've just, when I just, you know, when I do other things, I have meetings and I look into other industries and I have meetings with people or whatever. I can tell, I can tell this person's a pervert. I'm like, yeah, you've done some fucked up shit. And this is a complete different industry that I'm in because you can just tell. I'm curious what the percentage is. Can you imagine what the percentage is of weird, sadist, perverted people? I think it's high. I think majority of people, especially men are perverts. I think porn has played a big part in that from kids watching it 9, 10, 11. I think it plays a massive effect on the mindset. I think guys can then see women as objects. Every man will look at a woman's ass or a tit so there's no denying it. People can say, well, I want to look at her soul and her eyes. We don't because it's a natural thing for a man to crave in sex. I want sex with testosterone, just like when a woman goes through having a period. Everybody's got different emotions, different feelings. Yeah. So I just think it's a natural instinct for a man. So to be, I've never came across a man that's been 100% like I've never came across a woman that's been 100% here. What's both ways as well? Women are just as bad as men. I think one third of the men are virgins. I think the majority thinks a higher percentage now that women cheat more than men. So the whole fucking world is kind of upside down and it's trying to find a balance and understand that it's all about social media. It plays a massive part of it of what is social media as well where people are just constantly looking for gratification and likes. It's all fake. Everybody's fucking lives are fake. See when you were in LA then, were you just going through the motions? You get a name for yourself for the wrong reasons. How was it? How did, when did it start? Everything started coming on top. LA is a very small town, like especially at the top. Everyone knows everyone. The agencies, producers, the filmmakers. And because I knew some of the most powerful people, studio heads and this and that, they all speak. Is that what they do? That abused girls, raped girls, give them a little part to kind of smother that sort of like speak out? Yes. Yes, yes, yes. I know a couple of producers, these people haven't done anything to me, but and I've heard through the grapevine, that's what they do. They will fly girls in, they produce their own movies, they fly them in, give them like an extras role in the background and party and this and that and treat them like me and I'll give you a role in my movie. We've got a big A-lister, fun, have fun, let's do all this shit and a lot of bad, a lot of shit goes down. What's the fine line though from inviting somebody to a party, sleeping with them, getting them apart and then never speaking to them what is the fine line of grooming, abuse to kind of, you know what I'm saying? Like how, where's the fine line? If the girl's voluntary going as well, she's got to take some responsibility as well and I don't want it out and stop any survivors coming forward, but there's got to be what line is crossed. If somebody's a big producer and says, look, I've got a party to come over, I can get you a full on this and that, but if it's not forced and she agrees to have sex and when is- If a guy says, if a guy says, I'll give you a role if you have sex with me, that is sexual harassment. Yeah, yeah, 90%. That is abuse of power and that is wrong on every level and it's like kind of exchange for sex. I'll do this if you do that. Postitution. Yeah, exactly. So no, that is just leaving a no-go and that never, ever happened to me, ever. What is, this is different if someone said, you know, a powerful man, oh, I find you attractive, blah, blah, blah, you know, the girl knows she can help him. But a guy knows if the girl wants it, right? I think that's what it boils down to is chemistry. It's this, it's that. If they're actually together, look, there's lots of director actors, actor actors that are married and they work together. You know, I was engaged to a director up to recently. So it works. It's just, but they know, you just know. The guy knows. The guy knows if you're into them, but a guy will push. If a guy pushes and he knows you're not quite into him, but he'll push. Because he's powerful and he is who he is. That's wrong. There's the line. The guy knows. And the guy shouldn't even have to say or insinuate about work. He should just be, this is us. It could even be the opposite. I can't help you, but I like you. Let's still, let's date. Go around the other way. What about men? Do a lot of men get abused and groomed as well? As much as the females? So I hear. So I hear. I don't, I don't know any personally, but yeah, I've heard. Oh, I've heard a few stories. So how true is the casting coach and for people listening, something like that could do this and you're part, the part is yours. How, how legit is that? Are those our genuine directors out there to say, everybody gets an addition and they just pick the best? But how, how big a percentage is do what you want and I'll give you the part? It's really difficult because I'm on the other end now because I'm producing. I'm, I'm, I'm choosing actors on their talent. I audition them. I self, they self-tape and I go, great, they're great for the role. I don't, I don't know what the percentage is of studios, indie movies, TV shows that, that, that do this. It happens, it's happened to me. But the thing is, I think when it comes to the real roles, when you're casting the lead roles, that's legit. I think it's when it's the extras and the smaller roles, that's when it gets a little bit, you know, seedy. But then I've heard stories where some big actors have said, you know, they've taken a role, but you have to do this as well. But I, I don't know the percentage. I don't know a percentage. I must have a lot of Chinese whispers on it as well. I was a lot of it, true, because like you say, it's a very small town. Everybody knows each other. Did you know about Weinstein before it all came out? No. No way. No, I didn't. I didn't. I really, really didn't. But I know, now I know people that did. Um, but I know some producers now that are, you know, haven't been outed or anything and they're still making movies and they're absolute scum. How was it when all the stuff came out of Epstein? How has it been, big things like that happen in Hollywood? Does it bring back a lot of emotions for yourself? Yeah. What was that movie that came out on, um, is it Megan Kelly? And, uh, what was it? She said or something? Is it she said? Not sure. That thought back a lot of memories. This journalist trying to break a story on Epstein or Weinstein. And, um, it's all kind of the same thing. The same protocol. They have the same lawyer. It's, um, it's a very, there's a couple of famous lawyers in these, in the LA that represent perpetrators. Bill Cosby, Weinstein, the usual Epstein, yeah. And, um, there's a protocol. We'll silence them to an NDA so they can't speak. And then what we'll do is we'll throw a narrative out there. We'll call them an extortionist because that's the best defense actually, because what else can we say? Oh, they extorted us because we're so powerful and we have all this money. And then what we'll do, they can't say anything because they're bound by an NDA. And that's it. That's their protocol. That is their MO. We'll lock them down to an NDA so they can't speak. We'll spin our narrative out there. Very important. We get our narrative out there first and then they can't speak. And when, if maybe they do finally speak, it'll be too late. The wave would already been gone. But there is a law out there, 1001, 1002, Senator Levy. There's a California law that says NDAs regarding sexual harassment is illegal. It's illegal. It's unconscionable. It should not be out there. And I am currently the test case for that, which is massive. And if I win this case, which I should, the floodgates will open and every victim will be able to speak. In fact, in the Weinstein trial, the judge did that. The judge allowed, lifted all the NDAs off all the victims from Weinstein. Now that's great, but that should happen for everyone, not just the Weinstein victims. Yeah, it should be happening. What do I say? Yeah, of course. It's the kind of school field thing that they just carried on doing what he's doing if it didn't get caught. This is one of the things why the perpetrators do what they do because they know you sign an NDA, they'll pay you off, and that'll be into that. And then they'll move on to someone else because they know that they're never going to get caught. I think Epstein had a bunch of NDAs as well. So NDAs, you can't speak, but it's just, you can't speak to your priest. You can't speak to your psychiatrist. You can't speak to your family. You can't speak to anyone. And if you do, you are in breach and they will sue you for millions. That is an NDA. That's because the Epstein stuff, he was used to be a maths teacher, used to work with kids. So anybody who's, I wouldn't, I don't want to tar everybody with the same brush, but any male who wants to work with kids, no matter where it is, is you've got two questions, and there's a lot of good people out there who genuinely do want to help kids and want the best from, I get it, but when you hear all the stories, it comes from a lot. Majority is male who work with kids, and they target kids. I've had enough survivors where they say, don't just target the kids, they target the parents. So they see who their dad is. Is he weak as well? What he's not going to do for a call. So that's why fathers need to, about their exercise and training, don't need to look mean, but fucking handle yourself, because if I hit the fan, God forbid it doesn't. But if it ever does, you need to prepare yourself to kill these fuckers, and I would die for my kids, I would kill for my kids, I wouldn't miss a wink of fucking sleep if I had to kill someone to harm my kids, if I had to do life in prison, not a fucking problem. But people are becoming weaker and softer and more fragile, because these predators, the prey on the family members, first the mum, the dad, the weaklings, and then they'll go to the kids, and they're not smart enough to understand, yeah, what the fuck's going on. But I believe I'd like to think I'm on the ball and understand feelings and emotions and that. I just look at something, I think. This is off. To keep you bastard. You just know that. You know, you know. But look at Maxwell, look at Julian Maxwell. It's not just the men, it's there. This gets me so angry. There's a lot of women, a lot of journalists women, that have wrote about my story and said, Oh, she's this, she's that. You think, fucking hell, man. You're meant to be a woman, and you're bringing, you're pulling down another woman like this. Probably you're getting paid off by the men. Probably it's a small town, and everyone's scared of, in LA, everyone's scared of losing their jobs. Who are they? Is it a couple of families? Is it big corporations? Is it just many people? It's a couple of corporations. Yes, it's a couple of people. Sorry, I just thought of something that, I don't know if you saw, it's like last week, I don't know. Well, it was a few weeks ago now, the head of NBC, the one of my, that area, the boss, one of the people that I knew, his boss, he just got done for sexual harassment, and that's the head of NBC. And then literally last week, someone else in NBC just got accused of sexual harassing an intern. It's just, it's the culture there. It's just, you can just imagine them sitting around the ball meeting like, yes, I did this to this girl. So what are we going to do? How are we going to, how are we going to, we're in this crisis meeting. How are we going to get this out there in the press? How are we going to spin it? How are we going to make it, make this victim look bad? What, okay, let's look at her Facebook. Let's look, oh, look, there's a picture of her where she's not wearing a bra. Okay, let's blame her for that. Let's, let's, that's what they do. Oh, buddy, fuck, I did this to this girl last week. What can I do? Oh, don't worry, bro. I've got your bag. It's okay. We'll just, we'll just cover it up with this, this boy. This is what it is. I'm like, oh no. Yeah, women aren't as sweet, I forget her second name, Suzy. She exposed Rolf Harris, but she was only a young girl in her 20s. I think 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, even probably recently where girls used to get groped, people used to grab them when it was accepted. She was getting groped with fucking Rolf Harris and the men were just standing there just because, ah, it's Rolf, because they don't want to speak out as well because they lose their jobs. It's fucking nuts. Do the manly thing. Do the manly thing. Yeah, yeah. Put something in their fucking place. Be willing to lose your job because life is life. That could be your daughter and you've got to see the world and it's not just a case in. There's no such thing as a celebrity or anybody in power. They're just human. It doesn't give them the right to abuse. It doesn't give them the right to groom. But to get to the high ends of that kind of spectrum, it's up. You've kind of got to be ruthless. You've got to be smart in a way where everybody is manipulated by you. I've never met a man. We'll send that off. The best thing is a good man. He's a billionaire and he's doing really well. There's a lot for chatting. He seems a real good guy. But any other boy then you kind of think weird bastard. No, no, no. They've got to leave. And a lot of them aren't happy. A lot of them are not happy. It's half them to have a life because they're constantly. It's half them to even leave the house because they're very powerful and they could even have fucking hits on them. They have to be so careful and their life is very guarded and everyone wants something from them. Who are your real friends? I just think it'll be an awful life to be a billionaire. I think it'll be really tough. What was your first big role? My first big, big role is the role that I created myself. So when all this shit happened in Hollywood, I thought to myself, okay, I've been in LA for 10 years now. I've been around very powerful, clever minds. I know how the system works. I know how to make movies. I know how it works. I know what sells. I've adopted a very American commercial mentality. The film business in the UK is slightly different. I think it's lots of great artsy and dramas and comedies and that's great. But for me, I'm very much for... I want to make the movies that are going to make the most money and maybe the most commercial and the most people are going to see them. That's what I want to do. So I said, fuck LA, goodbye LA. I've got my contacts. I've got some great people out there that I know and that I'm going to do business with. And I'm going to come back to Europe and make my own movies. And that's what I'm doing. So my first movie was Directening that I co-wrote, produced and starred in. I won 13 awards for that movie. It was about a girl that was falsely accused of being a witch back in the day. It was a horror drama. So that was like my first big role. And then after that, I did The Lair. There's actually coming out on Blu-ray in a couple of weeks. But The Reckoning came out. I was on Amazon. It did very well. It came out during COVID, but it went to cinemas. It still did pretty good. And then we did The Lair after that. I kind of worked with the same team, same production company, same director up till now. We did The Lair, which is like a sci-fi action movie. That's also on Amazon. And it's nice to get genuine movie fans that just like people that follow me and go, I love what you do. Like they don't even know about this shit in Hollywood. They're like, I saw you in that role and I love it. It's like, ah, that's so cool. That's why I do what I do. Because I just, you know, you get people that love it and love your films and you want to entertain people. And then the two movies coming out this year that I am the most excited for yet. So The Reckoning and The Lair Horror. The Lair's a sci-fi horror. The Reckoning's a pretty much horror drama. Duchess is a gangster movie, British gangster movie that's coming out this year. It went to Cannes. And it's coming out now. And Compulsion is an erotic thriller. So... But I'm extra there, isn't it? Huh? So I'm extra there. Fucking gangsters are all take horror. Look, what can I tell you? It sells action, horror, sci-fi, this year. What's your rumours about the Bond girl? Because obviously it was all over the news and stuff. It tends to go apart in Bond. Can you speak on that? Not yet. Soon. Soon, soon, soon. But yeah, I'm really excited. There's lots of exciting things. Like now I've... Yeah, I've been back here for like two years. But it's not like I'm back here. Like a part of me was like, oh my god, I'm moving back to the UK. It's horrible. I'm going back to, you know. But it's not... I was like, no, I'm not going back defeated. I'm going back stronger. I'm going back with a career. I'm going back making films. I'm going back with my family and friends. And I can always still go back to the US. So, and that's what I'm doing. So, you know, a lot of things, lots of films, TV shows are filming in Europe now because of the tax credit. Not many things. Nothing really shoots in LA anymore. They're filming Batman, Scotland, Glasgow. Yeah. I just came back from Malta. They're filming Gladiator in Malta. So it's like all the bad stuff that happened to me in LA, the good, the bad, whatever. It's kind of, I feel like I've come full circle. And I come back here now. Cool, stronger. Yeah. Seeing that all the dark stuff. When did you open your eyes to it? You thought, fuck, that's something ain't right here. Did you always have, did you always know? But then when was the moment you decided to make a stand? Was it a certain moment or something happened with the trigger during the run? Yeah. When, when I heard certain people about mouthing me, when I heard that they were talking shit about me and saying, don't hire her. Don't do this. Don't do that. That was it. I was like, no, absolutely not. There's only, there's only so much I can take. No, when you're, when you're making shit up about me and because you don't want, because I was kind of getting momentum and getting work on my own and they didn't like that. And they wanted to stop that. When I found that out, I was like, no, that's it. So if you don't dance to their tune, that's when you get black bald? Yeah. Were you feeling that then? Yeah, but it's almost like you're doomed from the start. Because they then say, well, I made you. And it's a case of you do, as I say, still as well, where they've not got that full control. Yeah, I think a part of it is that. But it's just better not even to meet them because people think, oh yeah, but the contacts, the opportunities, no, because if you do well, they'll try and stop you. They're not going to help you. So there's not a win situation here. It's a lose-lose for you. There's no good outcome. It's all bad. See before you spoke out, did you know that they would come for you where you would be defamed, they would throw mud? Did you know that? Have you ever given a heads up or did you do it all yourself? No, well, when the story hit, I didn't have control over that because someone told my story. That was not me. If that was me, I certainly wouldn't paint myself the way that I was painted in the press. Someone said to me, a journalist said to me, Charlotte, I think if your story didn't come out, if I didn't write about your story, I don't think you'd be here today. So who knows if that's true? But in a... Killed off. Does that happen over there? People go missing. Who the fuck knows? So I say... I mean, so many people go missing in the US. So many. It's easy done there, right? Yeah. So see when your story broke, how much pressure then was on it? Because your name's at the forefront of exposing a lot of big shit over there. How much pressure came onto your life? Did you think your career was over as well? Because obviously these people run. Yeah. The fellow industry. Yeah. Well, I felt like I had a lot more to prove. It was kind of a relief. Like, oh, fuck, okay, it's a relief. It's out there. I don't have to worry. And at the same time, it's like, no, because it's not the truth and it's not out there and I can't speak about it. And I've got this kind of cloud over my name. I can't... I'm not proud. I wasn't proud to say I'm Charlotte Kirk. And that's so fucking important. And it's converting that. Okay, I'm in the public eye now, but it's like, oh, but it's not a good thing because I need to convert this mystique, this black widow. Yeah, because people will be watching and thinking, tell me, tell me, but you've still got a gag in order, is that correct? Is that the same as an NDA? What's the difference? When can you ever get closure with that? Do you feel as if you're always trying to prove yourself? Yes. But I think that to me is a natural anyway. Like, it's like when I first got there, I was like, okay, I'm just gonna like... I just want to do a star in a movie and show my talent and enjoy what I do and love what I do. And then I've done that and I was like, yeah, well, that's not enough. Now I want to do this and then I did that and then that's not enough. And it's kind of like... And I feel like I have a lot more to prove because of that. You know, like some of the critics that watch my movies are a bit like, I think, yeah, they're writing it and they're writing about the shit that happened in the press. It's like, right, should you not just be focusing on the movie and the role and the character? So that's influenced quite a bit. So that's... But when it comes down to work, acting, I'm just like, I just try and block out the noise and the bullshit and just focus on what's important. Can you still go back to early? Or is your life in danger? Oh, no, no, no. I've been back and I need to go back this month. Do you not feel uneasy there? I went back a short while ago and I have to tell you the energy there. Since COVID, a lot of people have moved out. I think a lot of people in the entertainment business, like actors, and we don't... I don't need to be there. If I need to audition for something, I'll just self-tape all this. I don't need to be there. I think a lot of actors have just... And it's true. A lot of homeless people, so many homeless people since COVID even more so, literally just rows of them. It's so sad. And they're just the energy there, man. I was just like in the bank one day and I was just queuing up and this woman looked at me and started, why are you so close to me? Oh, I'm like, whoa, I'm so... Like everyone is just like this anger, this energy about them. And I've never, ever been in a city like that before. It's just bad. I'm starting to feel the same in London. Really? Yeah. I still love it here, but it just seems to be a little shift somewhere. The energy just seems a bit heavy. I don't know what it is. Try going to LA. Have you been to LA? Yeah, I used to stay in LA about years ago. Oh, if you go back now. I was going to do motivational speaking over in America. I was going to do motivational speaking there. They fucking love it there. Yeah, oh yeah. The opportunities are classed there and there must be good people who want to help because Americans are fucking nuts, but they're quite a lot of them are friendly. But the American I've ever came across are friendly. They're always interested. Genuinely of what you do. There's not much darkness against the average person who genuinely wants to help you. There's so many book offers there and guests and they can't wait to see me and they're buzzing and I can help with this book and I can help you push this in America. Like people, maybe there is a fucking dark side behind the manipulator. I don't know if they've ever met them, but everybody I've interacted with over social media or the telephone, they all seem 100 percent. I feel they're more welcome. They are sometimes in the UK. And they're happy for you there when you succeed. Yeah, why is that? I think it's like the British mentality is kind of like if you do well, it's like a jealousy or resentment like oh, okay. Everyone in a lot of people in the US drives nice cars. It's like if you drive a nice car here, get stolen or scratched. It's just the mentality here. Maybe it's the suppression here and the class. Do you feel like there's a class system still here? Yeah, it always will be. Yeah. Doesn't matter how successful you are, you're still from where you are and I'm still from where I am. That's the problem. Yeah, you never forget yourself. And I think people always get a humbled eventually, no matter how big they become. See when you, who was Sandra, was she like? Lovely. She looks fucking amazing for her. Is she in her fifties, sixties now? She's in her mid fifties. It's amazing. Very lovely, very empathetic. But I've made them, like I met Al Pacino a number of times. Who was he? Lovely. Like, I feel like Emma Thompson and all these brilliant actors, I think they all have, they're very, they have this aura about them. They're always, as I said earlier, they're always in the moment. That's amazing. Even when they're not acting and they're not, they're with you, they're talking to you. There's no noise. There's no, I was talking to Emma Thompson. There was so many people trying to talk to her. She was just focused on me. That was it. As if I was the only person that existed. And it was amazing. And she, I told her about my story and this and that. And she knew and she was just so, she had so much empathy towards me. And I was just like, wow. That's just like, that's what, I think that's what makes some of these actors so brilliant, their level of empathy. Who has your favorite actor? I'll have a few. I mean, Pacino. For sure. Mel Street. Susan Sarandon. Loving Brian Cranston at the moment. I'm starting to watch Breaking Bad. I know I'm very late to the party. Have you seen it? I've never seen it. Oh my God, it's brilliant. I don't like to jump on a bandwagon when people talk about everything. No, but it's old. It's old. It's old. It's old. Yeah, I've never seen it. Surprisingly, I've never seen. What was the one that, the back in the day they used to wear the old hats and that, like gangs? Oh, oh, Peaky Blinders. Peaky Blinders. No, no, I started, I started watching that in Game of Thrones. I tend to watch. If I'm going to watch a movie, I'll tend to watch the same fucking one I've been watching for the last 30 years. There's always about 10 or 20. I go back to the same ones. Yeah, a bit like me. You have the same movies on your laptop and you just repeat. Yeah, same shit. And I think, why the fuck am I watching this again? American Horror Story. Have you seen that? Yeah. It's brilliant. I like horrors. Yes, they're fun to make as well. They're very, very fun. Yeah, what's the fun that's best, John, was to make horrors? Horrors. How so? Just me a cup and fun guys. And horror, you know, directors, actors, they're fun. It's lots of blood and there's action and it's like, okay, so how, how are we going to kill this person today? And how are we going to chop his head off? And it's fun. It's not, it's not, it's not dark. Doing dramas is dark because you've got to be in there and you've got to be in the moment and you've got to be there. That's tough. That's tougher for me. Horrors is very, very similar to comedies. What makes a good director? Visionary. They've got a, it's lots of elements. It's knowing how to work with actors, getting the performance out of the actors. I like Guy Ritchie films. The General Moon was classed. A Hugh Grant was fucking unbelievable. So you are going, yeah, you are going to like Duchess. Duchess is, so I came up with the, me and Neil Marshall came up with the idea of Duchess. We're sitting there one day and I was like, oh, fuck. All the great fucking gangster movies, Goodfellas, Scarface, Leia Cape, Wins the Last Good Gangster. Yeah, maybe The Gentleman. Okay, yeah. What else? Yeah, they fell it through their ass. The American ones seem to be better. The British ones, Leia, Leia cakes up their lock stock. I like Guy Ritchie's films are unbelievable. Yeah. His mindset is different. Yeah, brilliant. How can you, it's just producing these certain things. Just how it all interacts to her story is beyond how that method I'm thinking is genius. Do you know what helps? Voice over. I fucking love voice over. I mean, when that character talks over the... Yeah, yeah. So yeah, and I was just like, Wins the Last, there wasn't, there wasn't a very good gangster movie in a long time. So I was like, what if one of the best movies ever? Scarface. Imagine if I was like, we could do a Scarface. What if we could do a female Scarface? And that's where Duchess was born. Wins it out. We took it to Cannes. We have a few offers at the table now. Offers. So we're just going to accept one in the next few weeks and get it out there. So how does that work then when you produce a film, a director film, you've got to, how does it work starting from funding? You've got to get funding. You've got to make it, get the actors script. So script first and foremost. Number one script, come up with the idea in the script. And by the way, in Duchess, Stephanie Beecham, legendary actress, she's in that. Phillip Winchester, Sean Pertwee, Colmini, Colmini who was in Lake Ake. He played my dad. Fucking phenomenal. I was so fucking scared. This is the day when I had to come in and I was like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God. And he was just... How long did they take to make? We shot it in Tenerife. We were there for two months. The business was a good gangster film. Business was good. Yes. A sexy beast. Sexy beast. Yeah. Is that like an English actor? Big fucking affigates. Ben Knightley? No. The kid who's doing like... Who's the kid who's playing like Freddie Mercury and stuff? He's classy now. Brilliant. I don't believe you will fall in that. Brilliant. That was a... I watched that movie the other day. The boy Elton John as well. He played... Yeah. He's... He was great as well. He does like a spy film as well. Not the gentleman but some... Kingsman. Kingsman. That was great. So what are good... Who's the guy who played the craze? Well, that was ages ago that movie, right? Yeah. Who the fuck? Tom Hardy. I love his films, man. What an actor. Brilliant. Do you know a good actor? How do you know a good actor straight away? Because you can get a lot of raw talent, I'd imagine. Going for acting school. I like... Do you know who I like? I like Jake Gyllenhaal. Yeah. I like Jake Gyllenhaal because he transforms into his roles. Nightcrawler too when he played that film. When he played the boxer. He transforms. He completely... He immerses himself. And I don't see the actor. I see... I see the character. That's what, to me, makes a phenomenal actor. What about Mayfield acting? Yeah. Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah. You see a lot of these actors are fucked up as well to live that part, Jim Carrey. I think he played the man in the moon. But he was nearly sacked off the fucking set. You know, he kicked off because he was just being a pest. But he actually was being the guy. And the Hoffman, I think it was. Oh, Hoffman. Amazing documentary about that. But he was actually so close to getting kicked off set. He was with Lawrence the Olivier and he was like, method. And he stayed up all night. And he's like, I don't know how to do this scene. I've been up all night and I'm trying to do this. And Lawrence the Olivier just said, just act, dear boy. Just act. Because Brando don't think learn these lines. He just, just to go off. Brando, hands down, is the most, the greatest actor ever fucking lived. How so? He had something that no one else had. And no one else, I don't think we ever have. He had this charisma, this aura, this sense. I don't know what it is. I can't, it's really hard to even say. I mean, he broke, he broke the, not the cycle, but he broke, back then, when everyone was acting, everything was very over the top. Everything was very over the top. Everything was very dramatic. And then he came along and was just natural, cool, chilled, and no one ever seen that before. And when he did Streetcar Name Desire, Vivienne Lee, he was great. I love Gone With The Wind. She was all very over the top. And he was like, hey, how are you doing? Someone was like, whoa, who's this guy? Effortless. Effortless, truefulness acting he brought to the table. I needed tough life. I think he had alcoholic parents and he had it, he had it very tough. Even in fact, when he was older, you know, quite, I think a couple of these kids died as well. He had a tough, tough life. Yeah, that's sad. And he suffered quite a lot. But he had a lot of empathy as well. You tend to see a lot of the men at the top suffer. Watch the Elvis, follow me. I don't agree with Elvis. His wife being, meeting her at 14 as well, for me, is a fucking sex case. I think people get famous and they kind of block out that. But if she's 14, you know, a fucking sex case, she was at 26, 27, that's not normal. No, it's not. No matter how big he is. But the thing, I kind of, not feel sad, but he was the most famous man in the world and he was so paranoid of being forgotten. Yeah, he was. That made for the thinking that there's just pressure of being forgotten. But yeah, he's the most famous. And he never left America. I think he was in Scotland. I think he landed in Preswick. Came from Germany when he was in the army. I think the only place ever stepped foot on was Scotland other than America. Yeah, he stopped off at Preswick. That's the only place he ever went to. No place outside America. Well, I think he was in Germany, but other than that, because I think his manager was a bad gambler. So he used to get my casinos and he used to get free tabs. So he was just staying in America because he wanted to travel out to play. He was getting a million pound to do a gig in Tokyo or China or whatever it was. So he had bad people around him. Yeah. Do you see that everywhere in this industry? Especially bad people, leeches. I mean, like Pacino, he's one of his, I think it was his accountant or his business man. He stole everything from him. He's wiped his accounts. I mean, these people, they just, they, that's what people do. So it's such a, you know, like someone that, what they did to me, they exploited me, this woman, and she sold my story. They're just like, oh, what can I take from you? I'll go and they just suck the life out of you and just take whatever they can. Where does it trust? How do you learn to trust them? I don't know. Guarded? Yeah. Yeah. But I think that's safer than getting screwed over. Completely over the shit that you went through. Yeah. But also you've got to learn to trust people as well. It's fucking hard trying to do that, trying to learn to do that. It's tough. It's better than it is. So you get a script, you need to get funding for it, and then how much is the preparation? So you've got to find destinations and that, who does all that? Is that the director, the producer? Producer. Producer. So you find destinations for a certain scene? Yeah. Oh no, well for the, for the, usually you shoot the whole film in a country. So you shoot, you shoot your film where there's a good tax credit. So we just shot in motor, where there's a 40% tax credit, which is insane. I've shot before in Budapest, with a good tax credit or, you know. So what's a tax credit? Whatever you spend, the government gives it back to you for, because you're bringing job opportunities for them. You're, yeah, it's really good. So if you've done a 10 million film, you get 4 million back? Mm-hmm. What's America prices? Different in every state. A lot of people shoot in Georgia, Louisiana, East Coast. LA doesn't have a tax credit. Puerto Rico is very good. Um, yeah, Malta, Tenerife, London, every, like the UK has a tax credit, but not massive and it's expensive. Do you think it's easier to make films now, especially with all the green screens getting used than not as much? Yes, I think it's very oversaturated though. It's, there's a lot of movies out there and a lot of bad movies out there. It's just, it's, it's tough. It's fucking tough. What's the greatest film you've ever seen? Oh, my favorite film changes. I go through phases. Get mad? Yeah, I like, there's like, as you said, I, there's like a top like 5, 10 films that I like to watch and re-watch. I love, I love Scarface. I love Boys Don't Cry. I love Alien. I love The Shining, The Fog. Um, they're pretty dark movies actually. No comedies, fucks sake. One flow of the cuckoo's nest, I love Jack Knack, who's my best actor. Brilliant. So he's unbelievable. He's unbelievable. He seems, that seems natural to him. Free flow, it doesn't seem like acting. It just seems to do it just with ease. Just a mad bastard. One flow of the cuckoo's nest just seemed, that made so many people in that movie. I think if you can, if you can play a role that's close to you, that's good because you're acting less. That's why I'm really excited about Dutchess coming out as well and I just feel like, I'm just fucking excited about that role. Southeast London girl, meets a very powerful man, head of a cartel. He gets portrayed. She takes over. She becomes the boss. He's fucking, he's a pretty badass. You mean part? Yeah, of course. I'm Dutchess. Sorry, Anna. Hopefully it does well for you then. So how do you feel? Because you're what, are you now 31, 32? I just turned 31. So he's still fucking young, do you know what I mean? So what do you think in looking back at all were you glad you went through the journey you went through to make you who you are today? Are there a lot of regret? I think if I didn't do certain things or go through the things I went through, I wouldn't be where I am today. So it almost feels like everything's a give and take. Everything's a sacrifice, like not a sacrifice, but everything, nothing comes for free. Whatever you give or whatever you get, you're always giving something up. Yeah. Right? So it's like, okay, so I'm doing all these things. I've got all this shit going on, but I've had to give up quite a lot as well. And whenever I'm giving, I'm giving. Yeah, it's really interesting. I think there's always a price to pay. What about for any young actors and actresses want to become successful, famous, or whatever they're chasing, what advice would you have for them? How do they look out for the shit that you've been through as well? What's the tell-tale sayings? Don't trust anyone, that's for sure. Like, but just stand at stuff like... You have to know, it's really hard though because a lot of these people are good manipulators and they're good snakes, they're good... First of all, if you want to do acting, if you want to be an actor, fucking just do it, go for it. Don't think about it, or make your own shit. Like, I literally, and I'm still doing it today, kicking down that fucking door, wherever it takes. Okay, I want to make this movie, I want to do this. Yeah, but the budget or this, or we can't get that. Okay, okay. This actor doesn't want to do it, we'll get someone else. We don't want that director? Fuck him, we'll get someone else. I don't take no for an answer. Like, okay, I want to do this kind of movie. This person doesn't want you in. Okay, I'll do it myself. Like, just do it. I just find a way to find a fucking way to do it. So many great actors out there and actors that I've worked with and it's tough and yes, it's easier said than done to do it, but that's what I do, I just make it happen. You know, I've done, I've got two movies coming out this year that I've funded, produced, starred in, that's big. And I'm like, I need to do another one this year. And I've just got back from Walter and I need to do another one. Like, you just got to have that drive. You've got to have that, you've got to just and not have a plan B. Like, I don't know what else I would do. Like, that's it. You can't, you can't just all in and sacrifice. You have to make fucking sacrifices. So many people, oh yeah, but I don't want to move here because I've got a family. Well, then you're not going to do it. You just got to put it first. Your career number one and do it and go for it. You can't, you can't have, you can't, as I said, sacrifice, you can't have it all. Yeah, but I want to do this and I'll keep my job here and I'll do that. No, you've got to go in 100%. It's not going to work. Who'd you like to work with? Oh God, I'd love to work with James Cameron, Ridley Scott. Oh, there's so many great directors and producers actually. Great and so many great actors I'd love to work with. I'd love to work with Jake Gyllenhaal. I think he's phenomenal. Susan Surranden, Charlie Sterone, Mell Street, I mean, the list goes on. She was growing and more and start serial killer, fucking unbelievable, I think she won an Oscar for that. Yeah, amazing. Phenomenal director, Kimberly Pierce, I think it was? No, no, no, someone else. But Kimberly Pierce did Boys Don't Cry, brilliant movie as well. Hilary Swank. Is that when she was a girl wanting to be a boy? Yeah, girl wants to be a boy. One of my favorite movies. Arcus, fuck that film. I loved it. I loved their relationship. She's a great actress, Hilary Swank. Is that Mowen Dollar, baby? Mowen Dollar, baby. She was unbelievable, wasn't it? Yeah. So going forward for future plans? Future plans is to... God, what's first? Being happy, making movies. I'm like, happy, making movies. Mental health, right? Number one, sort that out. Because I'm kind of at that stage now where I was like, fucking hell, Charlotte, slow down. Like, okay, I've just done this. Now I need to do this. And now I'm like, it's like, slow down. I've done this. I want to enjoy a little bit as well. I want to travel a little bit more now. I'm back in Europe, but I'm not in LA in the middle of fucking nowhere. I want to travel a little bit more when I'm not making films. I want to enjoy my success and carry on working very hard. It's really hard for me to relax and not work, but I know I need to as well. So I want to continue making movies, being able to speak and tell my truth and tell everything, put certain people to justice, which I'm doing each day, and enjoy the next chapter of my life. When can you then shed light on everything? Can you ever do that in the future? Or you just fucking got all guns blazing or is that a case? Okay, it's done now. It's time to move forward. It all depends what the outcome is. By the end of this year, I'll know. Is it court cases? Yeah. By the end of this year, I'll know where I stand and what the necessary next steps are. How do you feel just going over your story today? Good, I think. Yeah, it's just a journey, listening proud of you. Just to keep going and just try to get things. Because listen, I know how dark it can go in life, and I know your story is pretty deep, which we'll touch on hopefully one day. People need to understand the shit that you've been through, the shit that you've overcome, the shit that you're doing now, so people can take inspiration from that. All you can do in life, no matter how dark it is or how much trauma we've got on the bottom line, is you just need to kind of try and push through it to get fucking either around it or over it or something, because there's no point in staying in a life of pain and misery. Life is too hard. Just fucking try to go on with it when life's going good. Never mind if you've got all this darkness over you, it's just to try and face it, handle it, and try and flip the chapter. But it's difficult because I mean, can play tricks sometimes when you're happy, you shouldn't be happy, you're sad. But when you're sad, you try and be happy, you try and force it. So that is mad life, but it's just the fucking way as working people get in contact with you, Charlotte, social medias, and maybe ask you questions. People have just been through the same shit that you've went, inspiring young actors and actresses to get in contact. How did it get in contact? So I am on Instagram, Charlotte Kirk official. I am on Facebook, and I have a website as well, so I'm up to date, and you can email me on there and my latest projects and all that kind of good stuff. You leave all the links and descriptions. Shaza, would you like to finish up on anything? If I had a quote, what, let me ask you, do you have a quote, what would it be? That's a good one. Yeah, never let the pain of the past kind of darken your bright future, I guess. Just there's always better days out there, there's always light at the end of the tunnel, there's cheeses, that shit as it is. I've spoken to other people who's been through mass amounts of trauma and pain, but they've overcome it. They've become better people they've learnt from it, but they now help others and then do something more constructive with their life, because people can be all doom and gloom, just repeating the same dark shit, people don't want to hear it all the time, so they're coming. Move on, move on. Listen, make the fucking changes to create an amazing future, no matter what age or how dark your past is, you can make a good life. That's not a quote, that was a full fucking film. Yeah, that was quite a lot. That's a power brush. Yeah, yeah, yeah, what about yourself? Um, I'm gonna have to quote from the great Frank Sinatra. I did it my way. Oh, blue eyes. But you only get the parts because he was a fucking Anne with the mafia that bastard. Exactly. Oh, fucking nutcase him. Maybe because he's a guy, different time as well, very different, different time. Yeah, because you look at, who was the girl with the blonde hair? The presidents, the presidents and were all whiff. Not that he was married to, not. No, it was a girl that was all fucking about whiff, the young girl, the actress. Marlon Monroe. Oh, Marlon Monroe, of course. But you see how much she was targeted, the man she seemed as if she was passed around and. Oh, yeah. Then he says it was a suicide with her, but then that goes a lot deeper than. Yeah, people say she was pregnant with someone's baby. Yeah, yeah. So again, that's how dark it is. You have enough power where you can speak out and you do become afraid. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? So listen, Charlotte, for coming on the day and telling your story, I've thoroughly enjoyed that. Proud of you for everything you're doing. We'll get you back on when we're fully ready to fucking expose their lot to them. Name, addresses, I'll fucking expose every single one of them, not a problem. Yes, please. But thanks for coming on the day again. Would you like to finish up on anything? No, no, this is great. Thank you so much. Proud of you. Keep going. Thank you.