 Thank you for joining us in the first webinar of a special webinar series struck with the expert. Each week we're going to host a webinar in which industries for experts will be invited to share their expertise and enlighten all of us on a topic related to AI coding and education. This webinar series is a part of Cudeva 2020 AI, this year's biggest international AI and coding competition for kids that encourages them to channel their inner innovators and come up with creative solutions to real-world problems by making AI projects using victim logs, graphic and based programming platform for kids. The topic for today's webinar is the importance of artificial intelligence and coding for young minds of the 21st century. And to enlighten us on this topic, we have three very special guests with us tonight. Mr. Yudhishthir Yadav, Dr. Manansuri and Mr. Pankaj Verma. I'd like to introduce everyone to one of our guests, Pandayva. Mr. Yudhishthir Yadav heads the strategic initiators for NASCAR future skills, an online program that aims to re-skill over 2 million professionals and potential employees and students in the new age technologies and equip them for jobs in the global technology world. Before joining the future skills team, he led NASCAR's IT-IT-ES Sector Skills Council initiatives for the western region. He has served many states and assisted state and central agencies such as the Ministry of Education and Director of Technical and Higher Education in designing, development and implementation of large as well as focused skill development schemes and programs. Prior to NASCAR, he was associated with in-open technologies and IIT Bombay Reset Spinoff as general manager in sales and marketing. Together, the entire team impacted more than 600,000 students in over 200 schools across India. Welcome to the webinar, sir. My pleasure to be part of this session. I look forward to speak to all the students for joining us. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Our next guest for tonight is Dr. Manan Sury. He is an associate professor and currently leads the NVM and Neuromorphic Hardware Research Group at IIT Delhi. He was selected by the renowned MIT Technology Review Magazine as one of the world's top 35 innovators under the age of 35 and top 10 Indian innovators under the age of 35 in 2018. Dr. Sury also has received prestigious awards like the IIT Tripoli EDS Early Career Award, Young Scientist Award, Young Engineers Award and Lorya Dupri among many others. He has filed several patents, authored 75-plus publications, delivered 60-plus invited talks and led 10-plus sponsored research projects and consultancies as principal investigator. He is also the founder of IIT Delhi Deep Tech Startup, SIRAN AI Solutions and also serves as an advisor to the AI, NVM hardware companies and governments. Thank you for joining us for the webinar, sir. Thank you. Thank you, Ms. Manan. I look forward to connecting with all the attendees. We're looking forward to as well, sir. And finally, I'd like you to introduce you to Mr. Pankaj Verma. Mr. Verma is an engineer and entrepreneur and is a graduate from one of India's most prestigious engineering colleges, the Indian Institute of Technology, Kanpur. He co-founded Stempedia with two of his batch mates during the college days and is currently the chief technology officer of the startup. Stempedia is a startup that aims to transform today's youth into tomorrow's innovators by enabling learning by doing STEM education with the help of state-of-the-art hands-on project-making kits, programming software, a variety of learning options and training programs. It blends theory with experiential learning, which helps in developing innovativeness and problem-solving skills, some of the must-have 21st century skills. Thank you for joining us, Pankaj. Thank you, Bani. Thank you for the great introduction. Thank you for this webinar. Okay, so before we begin our panel discussion, I'd like to quickly thank all our sponsors for whatever. Mutwani Jadeja Foundation from the U.S., Talent Republic from Mexico, STEM.org from the U.S., Lilligo from China, Center of Digital Technology, LBCM, Zephya Toys, JLCPCB, Community Partners, India STEM Alliance, Shiro's, Play to Transform, our business partners and academic partners for helping us make whatever 2020 AI possible and motivating thousands of students across the globe to bring out the maker inside them and participate in this competition. So now let's get on with our discussion. So my first question is for you, Dr. Suri. These days we have a lot about artificial intelligence, coding, robotics, et cetera, how these are changing the world as we know it and as we live in and how it is important to have knowledge about them and be a bit proficient in them. I'd like to ask you why is learning artificial intelligence and coding important, especially in today's world? Sure. So, you know, before I specifically take on your question, I'd just like to congratulate my fellow panelists, that is Mr. Munishtar and Mr. Pankraj, because I really appreciate the missions that they're leading, and especially Mr. Pankraj for the individualization of a spread of the art, technology, or our technical resources and Mr. Munishtar for empowering our group to do all the master form still related programs, the AI model and so on. So congratulations to both of you. It's great to be, it's great to share this space with both of you and keep up the good work. Now coming back to your specific question on the IEC, keeping all the height aside, we see AI as the logical progression of computing. You know, there was a state, we were in an age where machines or equipment needed a lot of hand-holding, a lot of instructions to do anything meaningful. And then we moved into the age of the era of rule-based programming, very specific rule-based programming or very instruction-driven interaction with robots. Now AI is the next logical progression of that. We are expecting more out of machines or more out of our interaction with machines. So more experiential, we show data to machines and we expect that just by looking at data, they would start doing something more meaningful. And they would also be able to handle situations which are more new. So AI in most simple terms, the way we look at it is the logical progression of human machine interaction or human computer interaction. So the point that we're trying to make here is that it's something which cannot be a skill. As our expectations with technology and machines increase with time, it is bound to happen and our machines are supposed to become more and more intelligent. So it is a very essential skill, it's a very essential component and we are entering that age. So the earlier we start introducing or nudging kids or young students towards this domain, the better it will be for them both in terms of their future prospects as well as whatever the opportunities that it opens for them. Okay, okay, I agree. Anything that you'd like to add? Very right. Sorry? It answers some part of your question, right? Yeah, true. Anything you'd like to add to this, Dr. Yadav? Yes, of course, of course. I think if, from my perspective, if you divide audience we have. I'm sorry, you're not audible. I think you are on mute. If you understand my perspective, broadly you will see most of us and the students who are in schools today will either become producer of technology or consumer of technology. Right. Both the cases, until unless you really understand the basics of this tech, you can't really make an efficient engagement with it. And that, I think it's imperative for all of us, it's not only for students. Some of people who work in business, I have seen them now learning technology because it helps them to be more productive. If they have to go and buy a technology solution, they can actually choose right products to their requirement. On top of it, if you look at the UN's sustainability goal. I think AI has humongous potential to actually cause some of the world's problem which is being there for centuries, whether it's clean water, sanitization, energy, so on and so forth. So, AI is there, and we have seen some of the countries like US and China, we head to other countries in this journey. And what I believe is that with Indian talent, I think we have absolute chance to be there in the top of those countries who are embarked on journey of AI. And on, apart from coding, apart from AI, if you go and talk about coding, I think it's very essential and becomes an element where just don't teach us your programming language. But it actually teaches you a purpose for which you are coding. So you basically understand why you're coding, which means that you understand the problem statement that exists, which you can cater to. And then with the help of aspiring for coding, you actually know how to think logically, how to think stepwise, and it just enhances the way you approach and deliver solutions around it. So it's important that you embark on the journey of learning AI and coding as soon as possible. Right, true, absolutely true. So, like, adding on to this, I'd like to ask my second question to both of you. Since both of you said that it's important for everybody or especially children to learn or understand AI and coding if they want to be efficient and if they want to live in the future. So, would you think that the NEP 2020 that was recently announced by the government this year, its emphasis on introducing AI in the curriculum and teaching coding to kids as young as 11 years old is the right move they did, the right thing. What are your thoughts about it? Dr. Manan. Would you like to go for? I think you are mute. I would like to go first. Yeah, am I audible now? Absolutely. Yeah, so what I was saying is that there is always this debate that when is the right time to start and I think if advanced content, if it comes in a fun and interactive way, if it doesn't become an evaluation burden on the kids or on young students, then there is no harm in introducing it even at an early stage. Now, another interesting thing with a topic like AI is that AI is highly interdisciplinary. If you want to be a developer or if you want to have a good understanding or even a consumer of AI, you need to have good basics in mathematics, in basic computer science. So there are both ways to look at it. If you expose the students to an advanced topic, they see good application, fundamental topics which otherwise may seem boring. So I certainly agree that it's totally fine to introduce an advanced topic at an early age. But one can always balance that whether you want to really evaluate or rate the students, you can always reduce the pressure and introduce advanced concepts in a more fun and interactive way. Sure, and I'll continue from what Dr. Manan has just said that. The amazing part of this technology training in school is that even in schools, if someone has told me what you have to do in Budumans, why you have to solve an equation, I never could get how do I apply it. I think technology training is actually helping you understand what you've learned in science, arts, stats. How do we apply involving a real world challenge? That's one. Second, I really appreciate the headway which NDP has made. I think as a policy, it has become a cross mirror and made a way for schools to accommodate technology training. But the beauty lies in implementation. I don't really see or I actually become all the schools not to actually put technology training as add-on, but has to be a composite subject in schools now. And as someone said, the earlier you catch them, the better you'll be. I think their learning appetite is much better than all of us. And then it's the right time to use any tech training as young as possible. Anything you'd like to add to this, Pankaj? Yeah, definitely. I want to add some things here. So as we already know, technology is growing very fast. So if we say in early 90s or at that time, the pace was there. But when we came into 2000, the period from 2000 to 2010, a lot of technology increased rapidly. So if we see a lot of things started coming up like robotics, it started growing. Then we came onto the part where we had coding, getting into the curriculum, getting popularized. And now what is happening is we are moving on and we are going to the new technology, which is artificial intelligence, which has grown a lot in the last few... I must say like last 10 years has been very, very... It's like exponential growth of artificial intelligence in terms of the technology and also in terms of simplifying those technologies so that everyone would be able to use it in order to make their artificial intelligence as well. So earlier, if I say five years or ten years ago, doing AI-based applications and those things were very difficult. And now it has become very easy. So introducing the new NEP that has come. What it has done is since the technology is becoming... AI technology is becoming simple and easy to access for students. So introducing these things as extracurricular activities is a great thing for the students where they don't have the burden of an evaluation, but they are able to increase their... Like what I would say is understanding about the technology. They can gel up very easily with... Okay, like they can gel up very easily with the programming concepts, the logical reasoning that involves mathematics that involves a lot of... Like a lot of mathematics is involved in coding and with this, they can make their understanding like curriculum... They can do better in their exams... Not in exams, but in understanding and solving problems as well. So I think that is adding at this early stage is I guess okay for a lot of students. And it's a great step by our government that they have understood the need of programming and coding at the early stage so that they can learn these things very quickly and get adapt to it. So adaptability is also a very important thing that students have to build. And at early stage, they are very adaptable. So after the stage, it becomes like they are doing things which they love. So if we introduce something that they can love at early stage, then it would be very good for them to get adaptive to it as well. Yeah, okay. So all of us agree that in 2020, the introduction of AI and implementing coding or teaching coding to kids as early as 11 years old is a good move by the government. And we all know NEP is the only thing that the government has done to push AI and coding for young kids. There are also many other missions or initiatives like you could say, the Airtel Innovation Mission, the introduction of ETL labs by the Airtel Innovation Mission, the new CBIC curriculum, et cetera, to prepare children for an AI future. Do you think that these missions and the current efforts that the government or the other organizations that are putting into the world and by the various initiatives and programs, do you think the efforts in the current time are enough to prepare children for an AI future? And do you think they are enough to make them at par with the rest of it if we talk about Indian children or Indian schools? Do you think the efforts are at par? So I will take that first. I think country like India is such a new scale required. Effort is not going to be enough at any moment of time. Having said that, starting from the start makes a lot of difference. And I know a couple of great people like Dr. Manu today contributed and helped CBSC design things through well when they plan to actually put recommendation on what you should teach when you start AI curriculum in schools. Plus, I think the way the industry is stepped up, CBSC has got some of the content from some of the best of industry like Intel, IBM, et cetera. Whereas if you look at ATL, I think the whole objective ATL is to fuel innovation. And a problem statement was how do you actually make this learning journey of UTEC more fun and absolutely light on to and really heavy on hands on and practical. The best part was that ecosystem team together. There are companies like Microsoft, Amazon, SAP, all of them came and they're like like that. I have about 12-15 companies as part of NASCAR who came. I have people like Dr. Manu Suni from IIT Delhi. I had proficient in the year from IIT Bombay mentoring us in terms of when you train on technology, what you actually should keep in mind in terms of pedagogical aspects. And that government actually fueling up and ensuring that this goes through as many as possible was a great move. And I think there's two more things which we have to do. The content was released in English. And I think in context and to achieve the scale of the next planning to ensure if we can transform. And I will not say transform, I should trust retreat. I mean, I will just transform the content, the context of local languages so that the scale of implementation can be achieved. And I think we have done. And I believe the early move was if I benchmark of what we have done with other countries and initiatives like AAAI, et cetera, and some of advanced and developed countries like USA, we have it early and we are at right time. Now it's matter how quick we can scale it and I think the help of industry, academia and government coming together, we can scale it very easily. Anything you'd like to add to this, Dr. Suni? Yeah, sure. You know, all these initiatives, whether it is the LTS or the anything, or the CBSC initiative or even the national field, these all these initiatives come together at such a close distance, which is a very positive thing to do. So these initiatives are sort of laying the platform or the platform. You know, really, I'm meeting a culture of innovation. Now, we take it further, what we have to ensure is that grassroots participation happens and that consistently happens to the government and other bodies which has come and they will have done good job by learning of these initiatives. Now, more and more participation of real students and innovators has to happen. And, I mean, more platform has to be given to local innovators or young innovators, let's say, or students to showcase whatever they do with this platform in place. I just wanted to add in our initiative when we did this next form of entire ETL. Thank you. We are a startup like you who are home group. Actually, can I help us understand what happens in school on ground and that too, the variety of school is so much. You have school, which is a statehood-affiliated Gujarati media, Marathi media school who works in a different way compared to any CBS English medium to an IBSC to an IB board. Please help us understand how well this can be structured and positioned and have that good place in the ecosystem of school. Thank you for that. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. So, right. The efforts are good, but it can never be enough and we must keep pushing forward, right. My next question is for all three of you. We've established that learning AI and coding is important for everybody and especially our kids in this age. But still, many people are worried that these may be heavy concepts for our younger children and that these days due to the pandemic, their screen time has increased too much due to additional learning because up until now all of these classes, there are more or less extracurricular activities. What suggestions do you have for such students and for such parents? What would you like to tell them? How can they strike a balance between these two? And how do you, you know, encourage them to not give up on learning AI and coding just because it's an extracurricular activity? How do you suggest them to strike a balance? This debate will go on and this will never end. However, to me, what exciting is why you can learn online, a lot of stuff, consume videos. When it comes to coding, the learning is not one way. It is two ways this engagement happens. You do something, you output going there, you do your corrective measures. And I think as a parent of four-year-old a young kid, in a limited time, if allowed, I do give him puzzles, etc., which he solves because I know that with the help of it, he understands stepwise thinking. He actually calculates in his mind, in back of his mind to give an input to device. And when he actually sees the inputs going in that direction, it helps them to be happy as well. And he gets acknowledgement of what he has learned. His outcome of learning gets validated immediately. So it's exciting. And of course, I think every parent knows how to balance it out and put restrictions and I leave it to them to do. But I will never discourage students not to do code because of this. I'll encourage them to code as early as possible. Concepts are not heavy. Concept could be as easy as, and I'll tell you a real-life example. The other day, I was helping my kid to basically put categories of growth in certain shelf. What it does, it just does, you help understand basic concept of folders. How do you actually put certain files in such a folder? Because when you want to retrieve them, it's so easy to know that which file is residing in which folder. All video file here, all text file here. So how do you actually use some of these real-world situations and help them understand some of computing concepts and then probably allow them to use devices to play and enjoy and have more learning. Right. True, sir. Anything that you'd like to add? Dr. Suri? Yeah. I think, yeah, as Mr. Yudhishthir also mentioned that this debate will keep on going about how much of advanced profits and fundamentals. So a simple way is that good time planning. And it all depends how we enforce the evaluation or how strict we make the evaluation. So in other words, these advanced profits should be taken more in the fun spirit. And the young students should be gentle not towards the evaluation because exposed even to the potential of such technology or such traffic. And everything may not be made as evaluation, as evaluation heavy as we have in the typical cooling system. Some things or some knowledge components can be there just for the sake of acquiring knowledge and not necessarily, you know, evaluated or written, divided or written in that. Right. Those can be some easy ways to, you know, enjoy more content that is coming your way. Right. Pankaj, anything you'd like to add? You know the order will bugger. Can you hear me? Can you hear me? I was on mute. So I also want to add something in there. So, like, I, while I was like, like, I, I would just tell you about my story. So, like, when I was in my 10, before 10, if I see how I was more like into my schools was I was into more of a sports and studies. Okay. So it was like a sports and a particular activity for me, which I loved. Okay. I love playing cricket. I've done don't don't like I have some times for that. And then I have time for studies. So I was managing like that. Now, in 11th and 12th, because I was preparing for like IIT and those parts. So at that time, my priorities, okay. I started like and a lot of students start looking at that. Okay. I have to prepare something for for exam and I want to prepare for it. Okay. And if I go after IIT when I got into IIT control, then my priorities changed again. Okay. I like I loved taking part in extracurricular activities. I participated again in cricket. I also participated in a lot of like clubs in IIT Kanpur and those and those things actually helped me develop an interest plus develop my like develop my career as well because I was able to in I was very adaptive. I was able to in like involve extracurricular activities into my regular things, regular studies. It becomes very adapt you become very adaptive. Okay. And if I see like nowadays parents think a lot in terms of getting results out of any course. Okay. They as like Suri said is like they they they usually what she is any activity their student is doing. They want them to excel in that activity. Okay. They want good result anyhow. Okay. A lot of interest to the student as well. And a lot of things come that. Okay. If the student is getting interested in these kind of activities. So you can take that a lot of students are interested in course. A lot of students are interested in music. A lot of students get interested in arts. Okay. Dance. Okay. They get interest and then they do those things activities. But an exposure to that thing is very much required. So an exposure to extracurricular activities like learning coding and learning artificial intelligence is what I think parents should do the students an opportunity. And if they see that it is very excellent in that thing, then they can continue with those activities. And the chance to or exposure to the field can be like can be a game changer for him as well. Because like in this thing, they learn a lot and it helps them a lot in terms of using what they want to do, what they want to do activities. Okay. So and yeah, definitely nowadays kids are tech savvy. They understand how to use smartphone very well. They understand how to use computer. So maybe you can use those opportunities. And like a more active contributor instead of a passive consumer, like just consuming content is not thing we want to actively participate in that as well. So I think balance would be there, but at least for a start, we should we are like trying to give them an opportunity to like get them involved in the kind of activities. Right. Right. Absolutely true. Okay. So my next question is for you Dr. Suhti. I'd like to ask you how can or how do competitions online competitions that are running these days a lot? How do competitions like whatever especially 2020 AI help kids in their endeavor to learn these latest technologies? How are they beneficial for them? Yeah, so I mean, you know, any such event or competition again act like a platform and it acts like a small milestone in your learning of learning. You know, any competition or any talent or hackathon should always be taken as a milestone. So let's say you are pursuing a new topic or any advanced topic. It might just become open-ended. You may not have a deadline or an objective. Right. You can ask milestones to, you know, focus your effort or focus your learning a little bit. Then again, the point is that these things are also to be enjoyed. We just talk about how too much content or new advanced content shouldn't become a burden for the students. So we have to shift from that culture of taking education and learning as an evaluation-centric model to a more environment. Right. Any sort of thing that you learn, anything that you pick up, ultimately it's a question investment in yourself. Right. So all these events should be taken with that spirit and they're very helpful in that spirit. And they also help you develop other topics like teamwork or, you know, quick thinking or working in teams. So they should be taken as a milestone in your journey of learning. Right. Your thoughts about this, Mr. Yadav, anything that you'd like to add? Well, I think Dr. Manas covered it very well. And there's always a correlation of what happens in other areas. Example sports, we all train for a time personally. And so we all start playing basketball. There's a time. Right. And the time comes when you have to compete with other teams. When you actually do competition, you ensure that you get along with your team. You collaborate with more folks. You prepare for it. You have a whole course to achieve, et cetera, et cetera. It just encourages you to do things, pick up quick milestones, see a journey ending it in some time. Right. So that's it. Right. Right. Absolutely true. So I'd like to come back to you, Mr. Yadav, and ask you my next question. While in one place we are talking about, you know, empowering our students with AI encoding in the other place, there's still a huge percentage of students who do not even have access to basic education. How do we, you know, include them in our mission as well? How can we empower them? And how can these technologies be used to empower them and to, you know, bring them at par with other students? How can AI and technology be given to these students? How do we reach them? Very, if we, if we consider how do we help them learn this? We can go little, we can go double click on that topic. One, as I said, it's very important that how do you simplify it for them to learn? Right. You can't really expect all of them and we all know. Absolutely. You are the blooms, right? We don't expect anyone to actually create something at least if you start with helping them go at least one to three level of blooms, just understand, remember, evaluate, etc. It will be a good start. Right. Local languages will help. Second, as I said, that not every concept of computing, which you will use in also devising AI solutions, you need, you don't need device for anything. Concepts like the concept, there are other things you can actually learn without machine where you can apply by you start learning in your code. Right. You can start exposure of those basic concepts as early as possible in this in this area where there's no machine and we believe that as India grows and we are going to going to grow really well. I hope that every house will have some sort of machine. The good part is India has already moved from space devices to mobile devices. Right. The mobile devices has great, great reach in the households today. I think the right connectivity, I strongly believe that with right connectivity, simulation, atmosphere can be good and it can be localized for this group to be included. We don't have those solutions as of now, but efforts of organizations like schools who's not only Ahmedabad, but they go into infinite areas of Modasa and Petra and get schools who are into people languages where they don't have a science teacher, but they have at least you to help them start their journey. Right. That's how it will go. Right. Absolutely, sir. I want to add here some things. Yeah, sure, Pankaj. Yeah. So when we are talking about getting this to a larger audience, then as previously, we have covered language translation and those things are very much required in order to reach to those, like I would say, students who are not very comfortable with English language. So a lot of what happens is like a lot of front-end generators or people who are generating content are major focus. Their main focus is on English because definitely English is one major language, which is taught to almost most of the students, but we have to focus on two things. Not only in India, but also abroad as well. Like if we say like their mother language or the language that they usually use is very much important that we make things in their mother language as well. So that it becomes very easy for them to understand and learn. So in order to, like we already know, like, what we have created, we have tried to, like we are going into the phase where we are translating the software into different languages. We have already have a lot of like Indian languages like Telugu and Gujarati and Pectoblog so that students can start learning about these things very easily. And we are also integrating like language in other countries as well like Arabic there and those parts we are adding on to Pectoblogs as well. And now what we are like, and with the help of government with help of other like people or companies like NASCARM who are very active in this area to popularize these things to students. Like the artificial intelligence module, the step-up module that Attingring lab like got into like the book was published. So those things, I think now what were like the next step of the focus would be getting to those people who are not in the business, like who are not able to access these things very easily or they are not able to understand those things very easily. We have to come up with solutions which we can, using which we can solve the problems. Yeah, right. Absolutely true. So moving on, here's one for all three of you. What advice do you give to parents and teachers to make their children ready, AI ready for the future? Do you have any advice for them? Follow Dr. Manan here. Dr. Surya, would you like to go first? I mean, first of all, don't treat it as a new subject with stress. Please don't make it a great oriented activity. And I mean, it would be very beneficial if some, you know, students can be shown some links between the fundamentals that they are supposed to learn in school and the same fundamentals which act as the basis of these outcomes. Like as we discussed, AI is interdisciplinary. It has math inside it. It has programming, computer science, and if you go more into it, you will find that it's inside it. So all these things are tied together. So if the students are able to see what they mean, then they will be able to appreciate it more. Yeah, anything you'd like to add to this, Mr. Yadav? I'll go last this time. I'll let Pandit. Okay. There is one thing that I want to say that, like, definitely it's like, we don't want the students to feel like this is a regular, a different kind of, like, different subject that they are having, mathematics or those things. So what are, like, if the students, if the teachers are going with a hands-on approach or practical learning type of approach with the students, they are debating with the students that how is AI working or how the applications are working, and if they can get a hands-on experience on those things, then it will be very helpful for the students to understand these kinds of concepts very easily, because theory is aside what we want to get their hands done. So, like, in those practical things, if teachers can have more practical things, when they are teaching these kind of concepts, it would be very much easy for the students to understand, and they would get interested about it. Right. So to answer your question, if parents have to participate in this, I see that there are two ways in which they can contribute. I will, I will, I'm not even questioning whether they should allow or not allow, et cetera. I am going with faith that they will contribute in this mission, and the first way that help your students pick up community and social problems, if they are at all working on projects, on it, they can all create something at this stage when they don't want to launch a commercial solution, at least can they solve a problem in the surrounding? This will help immensely, and you never know which student will hit a billion-dollar idea which helps you go on that journey which will create employment and, you know, kind of get the name of that city where he comes and make his family proud. That's what I think. Second, the most, the most important thing for any student to teach, which is more dependent on whether you know technology or not, is ethics. We don't think the AI coders the digital talent of India to be just digital talent. I have to be an ethical digital talent. I have to be an ethical coder. I have to be an ethical AI champion. As parents, if we can put the foundation of ethics in our kids, I believe they will apply the foundation of ethics when they develop application. They will understand the implication of solutions they will develop on society and its large world, and that will help immensely. And that's where, as a parent, it will help them contribute. Absolutely. And the last one for this evening, which again is for all three of you. What advice would you give to students to make the most of their time today and the most of the competition to learn AI and coding? What advice would you like to give to them? Ayagmaians. I think it's pretty clear if you go on the website, it just tells you step by step what all you have to do. There's an amazing help provided by Stempedia, allowing you to use their picture block, which is a low-flow entry, a block-based programming language. You can see immediately what your code effect of it, what you change it, play with it, et cetera, et cetera. You know, try to do a lot of hands-on, I think, and you won't believe. And I know that the block has been a concept of Scratch, and I myself, not being from a computer engineer, but I was not in taste of doing coding for a couple of years. But when I started using Scratch, I created a couple of games, which were quite exciting, which I used to play. And it was like, good, you actually use something that you have created all by yourself. And it's a different level of kick and enthusiasm in you. Just build your blocks or to build your solution and take 100% advantage of all the webinars they are conducting. There will be a couple of line of speakers in coming webinars. Here from them, you will find something interesting and valuable for you. Don't miss it. Thank you. Thank you, sir. Dr. Surya, would you like to add to this? Yeah, I mean, most of the points are the same that I've touched before, that again, take this in the right spirit. That's very important. Playful spirit, learning spirit. And divide your time if you think you have too much overloaded with content prioritized and then divide your time. So that's in a nutshell. Right. Yeah, so. Very comforting workbook. Yeah, from my side, I would say you should have your enthusiasm at very high at all the time. So like, whenever you are learning, you should have the enthusiasm very high. You should be keen in learning. Okay. And the one more thing is there that I want to add is when you go into the coding journey or the election, then there would be some setbacks when you are doing programming. Okay. Then don't treat those setbacks in the wrong way. What you should do is like, you should understand why those things are coming on and then try to solve it and all like concerns with others that how they would solve it. Okay. So the perspective of like getting over the over those setbacks would be very much important. Don't get upset with it, but get motivated that there is something I want to learn more. Okay. I have to learn more. And that is very important when you come to this thing. So as like they have said, like practicing is very much important. Okay. So if you're practicing it, then you will get expert into it as well. Okay. So that's the thing that I want to do. On standard, I just want to add the resting fact. And we used to code to run the compiler quickly. A lot of time, we see the only the 10 lines of code is correct. And rest has paused. That will help you know the fact that you want to improve for sure. I mean, I mean, at least where all of you have arrived at least that is not way back. It's actually way forward. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Rightly. So with this, we have come to the end of our discussion. It was pretty enlightening. And if anybody in the audience has any questions for the panelists, we'll spare the next five minutes and anybody can ask their questions in the comment section if they have to the panelists. So, I was seeing the chat and maybe like this we have already covered, but Yeah. So we can like answer is, is it integrated with mathematics subject like we have already covered that, but Yeah. It seems our discussion has been has cleared everybody's concern that nobody has any questions now. So you were answering that question. Yeah. I mean, absolutely. Right. So I mean, is deeply connected to mathematics. And once you get things right, once you try to interpret it, or even if you try to develop or solve it, we need to do that. Programming, but the basis behind it is mathematics. Right. It is very strongly linked to several mathematical concepts that you study matrices or probability or reasoning and so on. So it's very strongly connected to that. Yeah. Yeah. I can also attempt it. We're teaching but yeah, if you look at human brains and if the concept of maths is clear to a brain, you can see that person calculating and coming up with coming up with calculations as a test of how much faster than anyone else. And some of calculation remains back in his brain and he can does predictions as well. What will happen next? Like that. Machines will use data and this all the concept of math and science to predict and analyze to calculate, et cetera. It is the base and strongly concepts are in these ways. Better to be able to design the solution. Yeah. Right. Right. Okay. So we have a question from someone in the audience named Vinod. They're asking, can teachers lose their jobs? Will AI replace teachers? Dr. Surya, would you like to answer this question? We serve as a teacher for whatever job. Exactly. I think if that happens then I can keep coming to such seminars and at least I'll get some form of job talking about AI. Yeah. I mean, as we progress as a civilization, you know, everyone needs to upgrade themselves, whether it is students or teachers. So, the answer lies in constant So, we need to keep up with ourselves. We need to keep picking up new basics, new topics. So, the answer is it depends on the teacher. I think the question is not whether man or machine. I think the answer is man plus machine. I don't see a teacher getting replaced, but I think a teacher want to get empowered immensely with this with these new tech like AI. All you need is the mantra which Dr. Manan has just shared. Try to upgrade simultaneously as the students are so that they feel you as living as they feel that machine is. And also from my perspective, I think here, the definitely teachers would have to develop new skills in terms of like previously they weren't using computers or those things in their life. Okay, but they started using it. They started using like during this pandemic, they have started using zoom or like most of the students are like teachers uses zoom. They are getting away with the technology. But if I say a connection that is a connection between a teacher and a student is very, very pure. Okay. It's like it's very unique. Okay. The things that a teacher can make the student understand the technique that they use is something which is very unique like which varies and which is which is I think like cannot be replaced or replaced for the larger audience. It can happen for a few students that they are learning with AI and like as a teacher, whole teacher, but not all students will be able to adapt to it. So I think the teachers are very safe but they have to adapt to this new, the new technologies. They have to upgrade themselves in terms of digital literacy because eventually world is going into a digital era. We are already in digital era, but now it's going more deeper into it. So adapting to those things is important. Right. So we'll just take one last quick question. Someone from the audience is asking, do you think of these graphical programming platforms like Pyptoblogs are suitable for teaching AI, the basics of AI as most of the competitions are hidden behind the graphic layer? Pankaj, would you like to answer that? Okay. So if I say like not all students are like equal. Okay. Some students are very adaptive. They can understand syntax based programming very easily. But as like before going on and learning in programming what they should be more comfortable is the concept of programming or the different concepts that are used in programming which are like conditions based programming where they have to like based on a condition they have to solve a problem or those kind of things. So this graphical based programming language much more focused on like building up the concepts building up the logic building up and getting to focus them more on the end result rather than debugging it. Okay. So like with Pyptoblogs what we have done is like if the program is not running then you have to check your concepts. You don't have to check your technical errors. Okay. So it goes into a situation where you are much more focused on getting the things done getting the logic like solving the things with logic and understanding the logic and later using those concepts logic is the main thing programming language is the secondary thing. Okay. You can find same logic in all the programming language just that the way you implement those things changes. So it's very important for you to understand the concepts and then adapt to it then get used to it and then it's like you can use that same concept in Python. You can use the concept in or any other language. Yeah. Right. Okay. So we're already running short on time. So we'll end our Q&A session here and move on. As I told all of you at the beginning of this webinar could ever 2020 AI this webinar series is a part of this competition this international AI encoding competition for kids. Now let's quickly take a look about what code ever is about. Can we have the video please? Yeah. Yeah. Introducing code ever 2020 AI. We can keep out all of this international AI and coding for kids. The aim is to make the world a better place by solving real world problems using AI and coding based on the following themes beat the pandemic with AI think automation AI and coding for the well entangling transport systems and the 2020 speak Odyssey anyone seven years old and above can participate in one of these age groups. Yes. You can either participate as a one person army or in a team of two anything you can create your own story game software based AI project or a hardware based project in blocks it is an interactive AI education and coding platform. You can learn to code make interactive animations and games interesting projects based on AI program actions for robots and much more with the picture blocks app now available on play store you can even make your projects for the competition on the go follow these three easy steps to participate first go to the registration page and register yourself or your team once registered the portal will take you to the learning page where you can learn AI and coding with our video tutorials and interactive tutor led online courses now that you have the skills required it's time to show the world what you have got choose the theme and brainstorm on your project then submit the project brief picture blocks project file and the video of the project on the submission page now all you have to do is sit back and wait for the results the registration for Codewa 2020 AI starts from 2nd October the last date to submit your project is 20th December 2020 you can register anytime between 2nd October and 20th December the winners of Codewa 2020 AI will be announced on 10th January 2021 participants stand a chance to win 50 plus prizes worth 6000 dollars in total the winner of each age group will get an Apple iPad two first runner ups in each age group will get exciting STEM education kits two second runner ups in each age group will get smart watch kits but these are not all there are many special category prizes too all the winners will also receive a medal, certificate and the official Codewa 2020 AI t-shirt so what are you waiting for register today Bani you are on mute Yamuna yes yes yes okay this thank you so much Mr. Yadav thank you for taking time out of extremely busy schedules and joining us for this webinar all three of you really enlightened all of us with knowledge and expertise and I've really showed us that AI and coding are absolutely important for these young minds to become the future leaders and innovators a big thank you also to all the attendees as well for joining us and we'll be back next week with another webinar with more industry experts to share their knowledge on these topics. Till then, channel your innovator, the rush of the skills, and show the world what you've got by participating in the biggest AI and coding competition of the year. Thank you all, and a very good night to you. Thank you, thank you.