 Big hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh. Name another podcast like this, who gonna bring it to the table? Bostop, who your girlfriend fatter? Bostop, we gonna do it how you want it, Bostop. Check it, check it, check it, this is Unique Hustler, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely official, Mr. Jamaica, what's going on? Man, none of my dad walk on. Man, hey man, I hope y'all ready, man. We got special guests in here today, man. This man came a long ways, man. The man came down here to check me out, man, on Bostop 101, man. My boy Three Stripes in the building, what's going on, baby? Chillin', man, it's a pleasure to be here, man. Man, no, it's a pleasure to have you, man. Say, man, I've been checking you out, man. You doing your thing, man. I appreciate it, man. Man. So, you know, we over here at Bostop 101, man, we get down a little different than everybody else, man. We always trying to figure out really what make you tick. You know what I'm saying? So, when we start to, well, I'm gonna back up because I know somebody looking at me like they wanna say something. I wanna know where Three Stripes come from. That's where everybody wanna be asking me what. To make a long story short, when I was comin' up, my dad always tried to make me be a leader, not a follower. Everybody as well as Jordans and Jordans was like $200 a pair. My dad, he had money and he was driving trucks and stuff like that, but he just wanted me to be a leader. So, the Adidas used to be like three for 90 and I just used to wear Adidas everything and then everybody at school started calling me Three Stripes and then I just ran with it. But they called me three for short. Cause I never had no nickname. So, once they started to call me Three Stripes, I just ran with it. People that my close friends, they called me three for short. It's come from wearing Adidas, but I don't wear them no more. You don't wear them no more? No. With a name like I should wear them and be the ambassador for Adidas? I know, like if I would've continued to wear it. Right. Then nobody would be asking me why that, why my name is Three Stripes. They'll still ask, they'll still ask. They'll see the Stripes on me everywhere on the tracksuits. Yeah, yeah, you right. They'll be like, oh. Let me ask you something. Where's Motree at, man? Come on, tell me about Motree, Georgia. Motree is three hours away from Atlanta, 45 minutes away from Tallahassee, Florida. So it's in the country. It's like, it's in the country. You will not know where it's at. Like you can't find it on the map. That's why I'm trying to put it on the map. Yeah, yeah. So nobody's that an artist or a football player? My uncle, which went to the NFL, he's from Motree. Then you got my cousin, Shotalo, the late great Shotalo. His dad is from Motree. Shotalo was raised in, he spent some time in Motree probably in his childhood, but he was raised in Atlanta. But his roots is Motree. So in Motree, the one who played football, your uncle, what was his name? His name was Antonio Edwards. Okay, okay. Motree is big in football. We like number one in the nation. Like that's where you go. If you want to play football in our high schools, like you know that TV show they got called, I mean, you know the movie they got called that you know, Netflix and stuff like that. Motree, where I'm from, it's big, big, big on football. Like it's like half a million dollar program. So do you feel like when you coming from Motree, you got something to prove? Like I got to make these folks understand what we doing down here. Definitely, definitely. Yeah. I think that's where I'll be because I'm from Lowdown, nigga. You know what I'm talking about? You don't know nothing about Lowdown. Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, Lowdown, Texas. I don't travel a lot. I'm from Smithland, nigga, yeah. So I get it. Cause most people don't know where I'm from. So it's a small town. They don't even have many people that y'alls have to 10,000. That's a big number. We only got one high school, one middle school. We don't have that. You see what I'm saying? They go to the neighborhood. We go to another town to go to school. Oh, that real, right? Yeah, yeah, I'm country, man. Down right by the Cato Lake though. But you know, when I look at, you know, the music that's coming out of Florida, does that influence Motree? Cause y'all real close to Florida. It don't influence me cause I don't listen to nobody. You don't listen to nobody? I listen to myself. I listen to the independent artists, like everybody that's trying to grind. I don't listen to major art. I feel like once a person feel like they become major and feel like they made it, they don't put their hard work in after and they rhymes no more. So you tell them you don't listen to Lil Baby. Oh, I can't tell you. I can't listen to Motherbag, yo. And I can't name them Lil Baby song or Motherbag, yo. If I hear it on the radio, I might hear a little bit of the hook, but I don't listen to them boy. I don't know their lyrics. But it's the same thing with sports. A lot of people always say that they be, they don't want to watch like NBA, you know, pros. They prefer to watch college because they, They trying to prove themselves. I don't know drink and all of that. The games are always better. Yeah, yeah. But if I tell you my favorite rappers, you ain't gonna know who they is because they still independent. They on the ride. Name couple, name couple, I want to hear it. Well, one of my favorite artists, it's going to be real controversial. But, you know, I like one of artists that ain't no plug. I like him because he grind it, you know. Why is it controversial? Because he's the dude that killed Bane Roe Fresh. Wow. Okay. So that don't make it controversial. You know, a lot of people going to feel like I was, I'm wrong for liking his music. But that's almost the same thing. Like some people say, you know, why like R. Kelly because of what he did. But R. Kelly, you can't deny him. I don't know R. Kelly did that. But you can't deny him because he's talented. Yeah. Yeah. But like I said, if it wasn't your beef, okay. So now you got to pick a side. That's how it is. It's a side and I did, you know. Like they saying, it's another topic going on right now with the Kondo Rondo, you know. You got a song with Kondo Rondo. I got a song with him. And I was locked up with him. So I know him personally. I was locked up with him in Savannah because I went to school or whatever. So people feel like I got to choose a side. But I like little dirt, you know what I'm saying? I like when he first came out and I like, I like his music now. But I'll talk to my cousin that day. He was like, bro, you got to choose side, bro. You can't ride with dirt. Don't brush. It's Georgia against Chicago now. I'm like, bro, you know what I'm saying? But you still like dirt. Yeah, I still like dirt though. But you know, It's sad that you have to pick a side, bro. I don't like that, man. I don't like cause that's not real. I just seen an interview on day 21, Savage did with a, he did with the dude at all with, I forgot his name. He from Chicago. But 21 Savage was talking about how everybody had to choose a certain rapper side because of something I forgot, man. I'll be looking on different, different blogs, besides me saying stuff, but I don't really get into that main screen stuff. Yeah, it's crazy, man. Because a lot of it changes don't it? When you, whether you be, whether you, you, it really changes if you, if you really think about it, mainstream versus independent grind is so different and it changes. So you got to be careful how you tread when you're dealing with this stuff, right? Cause I know for a fact, man, a lot of people ain't even, hey man, hey man, them independent artists don't get to shine, but the summer I'm harder than anything that's most of it always been like that. The underground always been, that's why I'm a UGK fan. You in Texas, nigga. You know what I'm talking about? Because they stayed underground. But UGK is always big though. Yeah, but they still stayed underground. They didn't want to be mainstream. That's why they didn't move certain ways. Yeah, it's a lot of mean, it's a lot of rapper went commercial and you can tell, like now nobody don't really show no support, you know? But it's, you got to, like a lot of people feel like Lil Baby weren't commercial, you know? But he wanted on rappers. He still feel like he got something to prove. Like if you go to Atlanta, go to Lil Kelly right now, you'll probably see Lil Baby still in his hood. For sure. But a lot of it, yeah. I know that personally, because me and him deal with some of the same people. But you'll still see him in the hood, like in his Lambo truck, still in his hood, like giving away clothes and shoes, but people feel like Lil Baby, he got too much money. But he got this thing in his mind, he just like, he ain't even living in his hood. Like he still be in the hood right now. If he got to show that line of the night, you'll see him right there in Oak City, right there in his own fold. So he ain't gonna leave? Nah, he ain't gonna leave. Ain't nobody gonna touch him either. Like he going in hood, it's like an army base. You got young niggas, every one strut the reddit. Like if they don't recognize the car, your car might get shot up. They ain't playing over there, Oak City. For real? Man, so how different is that from Motree? And they like, what do you have? Niggas and Motree, niggas and Motree, they gonna be, it be niggas and sir, they gonna be gonna kill you. Every car come through, they looking for the niggas they know. Man, it's in Motree, man, you get a little success, they hating on you, I swear, man. I have my bad, look, my blog site had posted, a blog site posted about me a couple months ago, talking about how much money I made out of my royalties off my music royalties. And some niggas that don't like me, they went to sharing the blog, talking about, yeah, but this music is still wet. I'm like, why would you even, I mean, you still giving me my credit, but why would you share my, this post talking about my music is wet, but I still made all this money, off my music, like niggas be hating, like they wanna get some fame so bad. But you gonna have to have that, man, and it's gonna evolve. As you grow, your haters gonna grow just like your fans. Yeah, I had to learn, I had to learn, cause nigga be ready to come in on my post tonight, get out of when I know I'm out of life. If I leave from Tessa right now, I leave from Florida, I go to Motree, I be round, round, my window down, and everything, cause nigga be talking about, I don't be in the city. I, what's up, man? Oh, bro, you came, when I went down, like man, I do this on time because I need to start doing that, though, cause I be feeling like, niggas are always talking about, oh, yeah, bro, you went in Hollywood, how you going, I got my album, I'll get ready to drop King of Motree 3. So I got a tattoo in the middle of my chest, niggas talking about, I'm not a King of Motree when, if you mention Motree music, you ain't gonna know nobody but me. So that's why I say I'm the King. I ain't saying on the King, can't nobody do that, unless it go through me. I'm just saying far as the music on the King of Motree. So tell me a little bit about your upbringing. You were raised with your mom and dad? I raised my mom and my dad, my dad went to the Feds, like two months out of born. So how long was he there for? He got out when I was five. Okay, so? He went to the Feds, dead five years. He got out, instead of him selling drugs, he started driving trucks. Oh, that's cool. So my dad started a truck driving company, Emronard Truck, and he been driving like 25 years, no, no, not 25 years, like 20 years. And he came to me like two months ago cause he getting older and, he got a sickness where he'll just fall asleep in the middle of a conversation. Yeah, I heard of that. And he get ready to go to the doctor. But he don't drive no more. He don't wanna go to the doctor to get checked. Like he know he sick, but he don't wanna go to the doctor cause he know they gonna tell him to stop getting out. Right, you can't drive, yeah, you can't drive with that. What he telling me was he was like son, I got two other brothers, one of my brother 32 and I got a little brother like seven. You like son, I wanna pass on the truck and be into you. I'm like, man, I ain't trying to do that. I don't even like to drive. You can control the truck and hire somebody to be in there. You don't have to be in there. That's what I do. You know what I mean? But he want me to drive though. Because every, oh, well get you CDL and just get somebody else to be in there. I ain't even trying to do that. I barely can park a car. How am I park a semi truck? So you gotta have a car down there where you from. I do. I can't parallel park a car. I can't parallel park. How you pass your, If I got it, if I see the, How you pass your test? Oh, the lady didn't even make me parallel park. When I, when the parallel parking park came, I said, I can't do it. She like, don't even worry about it. And she still passed you. Yeah, she still gave me like an eight or nine. She only worry about the road test. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So let me ask you, do you, do you feel like the music is influenced by Atlanta? Oh yeah, definitely. I'm talking about Immortry. Yeah. How do you make it influenced by something? Everybody, when they get that music, they try to go to Atlanta. You know, but I did different. I went to Miami. Yeah, yeah, okay. Okay, so let me ask you this. Kodak Black down in Miami. He ain't on Bravo. Oh, okay. Is he, how's he, when you, when you look at his music? What do you think about that? Cause he's, Kodak Black is another little baby. He's another little baby. He in his hood. He always in the hood when he ain't got, that why he stay in jail. But see little baby don't, little baby got a mean youngest around here. They gonna take charge. Like you'll see little baby youngest going in and out of prison cause they ain't letting, they ain't letting the baby go to jail. So they got it. They got him like they, and they niggas must be really stomping their homies in the down in the hood. Man, man, man. I know, I know two, three little baby homeboys. Everyone on had iPhones in prison. All of them. All of them. And get away. When them boys get, them boys getting everything they want into the prison. All they got to do is get on FaceTime with little baby. The guard gonna let them get everything. Man, I seen one on, I ain't want to throw a name out there, but when he was in prison, man, they man had like $5,000 cash on him in the cell with an iPhone. Keep it on me. Yeah. Don't they search these cells? Yeah, but you know, man, I'm talking about, man, you niggas. Anybody can be bought. Let me. You got to think about it. If a lady she making now $10 an hour and she will pay a hundred something dollars to see little baby at a concert and she get the 10 for free on FaceTime. She gonna risk her whole. She risked it all for that. She risked it all. So when you brought up, do you want to go? Yes. I got, what is that emblem on your necklace? It's a handicap. That's what I thought. I'm like, so. Staff of Crip, community revolution and progress. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Community revolution and progress. Is that what he said when we was interviewing? I know who you're talking to. Payback. Payback. Is that what he said? Yes. So yeah, I'm trying to understand. Definitely. Because I saw that emblem. I'm like, I noticed a handicap sign. I'm like. You're like, wow, what's the matter? I wonder if it's a handicap. Okay. Yeah. So do you think? What about to ask him anyway about the, I think I was going to ask you about blue acorn. What's up? What influenced that? Blue acorn? I can't really go into the details of that. What in the hell you put an album out with blue acorn if you ain't going to tell me about it? Okay. The reason why I named it. Look. The reason why I named the blue acorn because I'm a squirrel trying to get a net. Okay. In the rock game. I'm a squirrel. I never came up with a squirrel trying to get a net. I like the color blue. And one of my favorite rappers, he's not mainstream, it's P.W. Longway. He got the blue M and M. Shout out P.W. Longway. That's a real one. So I didn't, I named mine the blue acorn, you know. Dope man. Dope. I got it tatted on me right here on my wrist. So what, what influenced you to be a Crip? And how old were you when you got into it? Your daddy was Crippin'? No, my daddy, he didn't feel able to net it, but my dad always told me to be a leader. So all my homeboys are bloods. So I was raised to be different. So I became a Crip. And Motree, I see it in my songs all the time. All my niggas are mango red, but we chasing the green. I'm the only Crip in my organization. And y'all friends with them? Cause I always thought when you blood and Crip, you're not supposed to be friends with each other. You're supposed to be like enemies. Nah, that ain't how it started out. In the beginning, in California, Bloods and Cripp started out to go against the police. You know what I'm saying? Like it was a branch out the Black Panthers. That's the same thing Payback said, but somebody else said something different. You got, you get, you fake OGD, folk begin to fake history. They don't be going to the land and talking. But okay, Crip started and then they started Blood because you know, you start anything, you always going to have somebody hating and try to start Sunday men competition with us. Crip was the first organization, you know? And then it became Blood and then they went against each other. But you got Crips, they go against each other. You got, you got Slots and Am right here. And you got Hoover Street and they rivals and they killing each other. And then you got 83rd Street, which is 80th Street, Gangster Crips. They all like, that's how it is in Cali Air. All the enemies is one street apart from each other. I was out there in Cali about six months ago when I was out there at Nipsey Stowe. And one of my OGD told me like, man, they safe, they safe over here three, man, you better go and go, go about your business. Cause all the, the, um, the Hoover Crips would just come and shoot up the Stowe. Like killing innocent people, you know, people like to go out there. How long ago was that? It was about six months a year ago. They closed out, they got, they got Nipsey Stowe blocked off now. Cause people going out there and just take pictures, but they were getting shot up and stuff. They're trying to just watch stuff like the wrong color, trying to show love to Nipsey. And then, you know, we got Game Ones. See, in, out there in Cali, you got the sixties, they were, they were a royal blue. The Hooves, they were orange. So after, after Hooves rolled up on the sixties and they see you wearing that royal blue, you might be trying to pay homage to Nipsey. You might have on a marathon continued jacket. They think you one of the sixties and then they gon' shoot at you. Let me ask you this, you, you was, you... Oh, she had me when I became Crip. Yeah, I accidentally... I became Crip, I was like, it was right after I got out of jail for, right after I got out of jail, I became Crip. How old were you? I was 18. Okay, so you started late because when I think about those gangs, I think about them recruiting kids, like real young. They try to recruit me as a kid, but the only reason I didn't is because my dad was on me heavy. When I went to jail, they kept on telling me I had to make a choice, but I was like, I'm not gonna join in jail because they ain't gonna make seem like I joined a gang for a petition. So when I got out, I made my decision because when you joined a gang in jail, you have to rejoin on the street because... Oh, really? I mean, a lot of people there, okay, they joined Crip because they was in the dorm with number, because they was in dorm with number of Crips, but they didn't even get on the street where they throw in number of Bloods so they might change over. So you're not official until you re-get jumped in or re-enlist on the street. And is there a reason why you picked Crips over Blood other than your friends? Oh, I just picked to be different. Just to be different. That was it. Yeah, I always had to be different than them. Okay. I didn't know that you had gotten into trouble about that, so you must be sliding me. Right here on the damn podcast. Let me get that one in because I know he was gonna ask that. It was in my mind to ask a long time ago. So go ahead. What was it at? What school was it? Yeah, that's what I thought. Yeah, do your research. Yeah, get on back. So in Savannah, man, when this thing went down, Georgia, what happened on the shooting? How did that happen? Why would you get caught up in a school shooting? Man, what happened was it was a lot going on there at school and I had a whole bunch of homeboys. They was real scary. I did one of my homeboys from my hood. It was some of my homeboys from school. But I went to the same college together. They was scary. They were like, three men, you gotta get some protection. So I went home the week before, I was at school for about a week. And how old were you at this time? I was 18. Oh, you were 18 at this time. I thought I got out of jail for neck then I became Crips. Right. But the dude I shot was a blood anyway, so I felt like I couldn't join blood cause I shot a blood. So I felt like I wanted to run past him one day. But so I went home, I got a gun, bought one of my OG's in the hood for like $30. He gave me a box of bullets and all. He gave you up with the whole package. Yeah, he gave me a whole package. So hold on, tell you got this. He gave that nigga a starter pack. Yeah. So you got this gun because you were being bullet because they were. No, what happened was Savannah State had a low security. People were jumping in the fence, robbing people. People were getting, like people were getting robbed on the campus and I had a big name coming out. I had them just hit world star. I was a known rapper at the school. So everybody knew me, you know what I'm saying? So I was like, I know I'm rapping about all this stuff, having all this money. Somebody's gonna try to try me. But I didn't know the dude was gonna try to hate on me. What the dude was hating on me? Cause he had already had them pick me up. Like he hadn't been going at me on Twitter but I had so many messages and stuff. You got lost in the sauce. Yeah. But you've never had a physical altercation with him before this? No, never had a physical altercation. He hit me up on Instagram or whatever and talked about what he gonna do to me this and that and they would got me out of the case. I'll turn up and say, bro, I don't know you. I don't want no beef with you, bro. I said, I don't. So they went back and found that. Yeah, I screamed. When I turned myself in, they had them brought the marshals, the U.S. marshals and stuff like that. Let me tell you how it happened. After I shot him, I had him hit. I was hiding out about three, four hours. And this is inside of school? Yeah, it was on time. Nobody else got shot? Nah, I only shot him. Okay. But it was dudes with him, but I only shot him though. Okay. I was hiding out about three, four hours. So I was listening, I was watching the news with me and the scary homeboys. I was watching the news and they had, we were listening to the description of the shooter they had. They was like, he was tall, short hair at the time I had dread. I'm like, yeah, I'm good. So like 30 minutes later, my mom came back, my mama called me. She like, they said you did shooting it. I'm like, oh man, it's old. Once they called my mama, I'm like, somebody done told. I shot him in front of 20 people, but I thought everybody was gonna keep it real because they had been waiting on me outside my house. If you hear me, I was staying in an apartment on campus. I shouldn't, they shouldn't have put me in apartments. If they'd put me in the freshman dorms, I probably would never shot them. They put me in apartments with the older people. Okay. So when I get home, D4J, where you not outside my house? I'm trying to walk to my door, bro, like you ain't going nowhere. I'm like, hey bro, get out my way. So he hit me, they start jumping me. I fell to the ground. He knew I had a gun on me. And then I just, and then I ran into my room, got my bullets, got rid of them. I turned myself in late on that night. And then I sat in there for like a month. But I had, before I turned myself in, I screen shot everything gave to my lawyer. I sat in the jail for about two months. And then that's when my cell defense case started coming. They locked him up. He came in the dorm in Wiltshire. He was in the Wiltshire for a minute. I don't know if he's still in the Wiltshire. Oh, you seen the nigga? Yeah, I seen him. But they had separated us though. They separated us. He came in under Wiltshire. Then they let me out. They let me out on a thousand dollar bun. You got, they dropped that bun. They want that money. They let me out on a thousand dollar bun. I fought that case on the street for three years. They were trying to wait on me to get it to some more trouble. How did this affect your mom during the beginning stage of it when she first heard that you did that and that it happened? How did, how was her reaction and how, how was she? I don't really know. You have to ask her, but she, you know, my mom was a school teacher. So everybody was looking at her crazy like, you out here at school telling us to do all this and that and your son at school shooting people. You know, but I had, I can't go into my past but I had them, that wasn't nothing new to me. Yeah. That was my first time getting caught. Yeah. That's the way it used to be. That's the way it used to be. So we had a shooting here just last week. Right. Did you hear about it on the news? Yeah, I told y'all I heard about it because I seen a blog site posting about it. He was the first, he the first black school shooting history and then a lot of people that know me tagged me and they like, now y'all got it wrong. They strike the first one, but I wasn't even the first one. My homeboy was the first one. No, and he wasn't even the first one. My cousin was the first one. Oh, so I, yeah, Negro. Yeah. I'm sure there was somebody before him. You think so? I guarantee you, if you do your research. No, my cousin did. He was the first one in Georgia. And I'm not saying that this is a good thing. He was the first one in Texas. And I'm not saying that this is a good thing, you know, for anybody to do in school because anything could happen to anybody else. You know what I mean? So how do you feel about the shooting that happened here in Texas? Do you feel like he should have went and got his gun and that should have happened or do you feel that since you went through it? Because this boy was being bullied. So this wasn't a first time altercation. Like you, that was your first running with him physically. He had been in a fight. He was being bullied by this kid and he just probably just couldn't take it. And did you see the footage of the fight? No, I didn't see it. All I seen was like a screenshot. He was like, yeah, school is going down today. No, there was a fight with him and that young, you know, the boy who he shot. And he got beat up, like really bad, right. And then he went and got a gun and he shot him and stuff like that. See, that ain't self-defense though. I don't know about Texas laws though. See, you got to enjoy, you got to shoot him in the side. In action, right. Because that's what I'm thinking. Premeditated. That's premeditated. That's exactly what I was thinking about. He went home and thought about it. He could have told himself, no, I ain't gonna shoot him. He went and got it. I'm gonna shoot him. I don't know if he got the gun, like if he had the gun in his bag and he left because it's still sketchy a little bit because I read in the news. So I'm not sure if he went and got the gun and then came back, not came back to the school but you know, his backpack is there and then shot him. That's normal in Texas. He didn't have it on him. He didn't have it on him. That's normal in Texas. I told y'all just talk to a young dude on a date. Staying Houston. He said everybody at school had their guns on them. I'm like, what? He was telling me he was like bro, he just shot somebody at his school. And he was like, bro, at all school, bro, everybody be scrapped. I'm like, bro, where? Because I know Texas is open carry. I mean, anybody can have a gun but you still have to be over 21 to have a gun. Oh. You understand what I mean? To be able to carry it on you openly like that. You still have to be 21 to do that. Well, if you can be, the failure you can't carry at all though. No. So, because I was saying that, you know, that boy being bullied, he needed to beat him up and the teachers knew that they were having altercations. The principal knew. So. I ain't just gonna take his side, of course. I'm not condone, right. I'm not condone that he, go take some classes of self-defense and then come back and beat him up. I feel like he should have, at least got him a group of homeboys or something. Some like that. Because you mentioned your life. No. He was in surgery. He had four shots. One in his leg, one in his stomach and two in his shoulders. Oh. So, you know, they showed all of that. The parents was talking about all that. They ain't gonna play with him. They might try to do him like it did take care. Probably. I don't know yet. I know he's out on bond. Yeah, I seen it. They had a, they had a celebration for him apart. They had a welcome home party for him. He going viral. He going up. Like, I tell you, mine went viral. I was on the interview, I did an interview with Atlanta and somebody picked up a clip of mine and it went viral. People felt like I was bragging about it, but that's the case that I'm telling you about. We've been talking about it seven years ago. I'm 25 now. You know, I wasn't able to talk about it for like three, four years. Nah, I can't. Nah, I'm, you know, it's so... Because I feel that a lot of kids, because, you know, they always talk about cyberbullying and so forth and a lot of kids are feeling like they got to go get a gun and, you know, react to their situation. Yeah, that is the music. Well, I'll tell you the reason why I did my school shoot, because of music. I had been listening to a number of Lil Durk and Cheeky and my mind just was on straight drilling. I swear that, when I, I swear, I ain't just trying to blame them on the boys, but that music do make a big difference in your actions because I had been listening to a number of drill music and I felt like I was one of them. So with saying that, how do you make your music different that it don't do that to little kids as well? Well, the music I make, I don't be making music about shooting people. I make music about hustling, trying to get some money, living, you know, and shooting them if you got to. But I ain't just... You said shooting them if you have to. Yeah, but the thing is, after you go through what you went through shooting, like at the school, it's basically something to worry you don't play with it, you know what I'm saying? And see, with me going through that, it kind of was a good thing and a bad thing. See now, like, Niggas know I don't got a lot up for shooting somebody. I have to watch what I do because a nigga ain't gonna try to come at me like they would the average person. Like a nigga ain't gonna try to fight me. Niggas gonna try to shoot me because he's like, oh, y'all three gonna get me. You know what I'm saying? So I'm gonna have to all, like I have to try to be out of situation. Like when I get into a nigga, Niggas be like, oh, yeah, I already know three gonna pop me. So I can't, you know. Yeah, no, I get it. But that's why when I was asking that question, I was trying to figure out how could you use what your situation is to turn to good, meaning like to try to help talk to some of these y'all. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what I mean? My mom set up a couple of things. I'm giving back to my own community and I'm going to the elementary's talking. Right. And I've been trying to get together. Today, I looked at my phone when I was just signing that paper. Today makes 10 years as my best friend got killed. His dad came home and went through his wife's phone went through my home by mom's phone and find out she was cheating on him. And he killed my best friend. He killed his little brother. He killed himself. Today made 10 years. Wow. That's in motor? Yeah, in motor. Wow. Like that John Jeff crazy, man. Yeah, yeah, it's crazy cause man when something like that happened you don't even expect her to see it coming. You know what I mean? Yeah, I ain't expecting it. You wouldn't expect it. You know that you never can and you try to figure those things out and you try to put two and two together but it never come up for. You never, you never can figure that part out. Like what the heck was, you know what I mean? But you know people just react when they're going through something or they think about something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They don't even think about it. He tried to kill her too but she got away. See what I'm saying? Yeah, they just react, bro. And it's done just that fast. So top three artists of all time did or live. Any genre? Number one. I don't even know. I grew up listening to Tupac. I had no choice but listen to him cause my mom was a big fan of him. It's okay. I don't really know a lot of songs. How you gonna say that you're number one? I don't want nobody that you don't really listen to. It could be the people that you say that you mess with right now that are part of this flight. It could be anybody that you love. You're number one. Their music. I have to look through my music thing. No, come on. We need a top three. Cause I ain't really listen to nobody lately. But just overall, so you say Tupac is number one? Tupac, number one. Number two. Any genre? Lil Wayne. Okay. I used to listen to him when I was young. A lot of people did. Yeah. Yeah, um. Number three. I don't know, man. Number three. I listen to myself. Okay, you can do it. I like that. I like that. Ain't nothing wrong with that. I don't be listening to these folk, man. Say a lot of people do Tupac and Michael Jackson. No, Michael Jackson, he was the same girl. Like. No, but it said any genre. J.B. Sandstar just made a sound good. I mean, I really shouldn't even say it Tupac. That's the first thing. Can I say it? I really shouldn't have said it. I should have said me, me, and me. Me. We had that the other day, didn't we? Yeah, but we didn't accept it. We didn't let them do it. Yeah, so when you go like right now in the music scene, a lot of people, they flaunt this music thing around. But it's a lot of youngsters, they ain't really getting money doing this right now. They putting up money, which that make them bosses. I ain't tripping on that. They doing it so they make you a boss because you putting your money up for what you believe in. But how do you rectify that, and how do you figure out a way to turn it to ROI so you can benefit off the music? Well, you know, I do a lot of research. I ain't stupid. I made 200,000 dollars off my music. Really? Yeah, I done made 200,000 dollars. I've been rapping since I was 13. Oh, but what? I've seen that when I looked you up. Since I was, I've been rapping since I was 13. You know, I find out how to get paid for all my, everything monetize, everything on YouTube. When I started out, I was filming, I got two movies. I monetize my movie, all my music monetize. Like when I get it, when people play it on Instagram, Facebook, advertising, all that stuff, I find out how to do all that. When I was like, when I was like, when I dropped my first movie, I was like 14 years old. I walked around the hood and sold a thousand copies for 10 dollars. Wow. You know what I'm saying? And that's what's, that's good right there. Yeah, so. But the 200,000 that you're talking about that you made, is that from. Offerorities. Offerorities from old. In 12 years. In 12 years, okay. When you look at it, it's like $20,000 a year, but I'm from Motree, you know? That's a lot of money. That's the big money in Motree. Yeah. Yeah, so, so what movies? Let's talk about the movies. My first movie I did, it was like 45 minutes long. I filmed it directly. It's called The Come Up. You filmed it indirect? You did everything. It got like, probably like 300,000 views on it. Wow. I edited it and everything. It took me like a month to render it. I edited it. My second movie I did on my case, the one in Savannah. Yeah. But it didn't get that much. On the shooting. Yeah, I did a movie on the shooting. And then I'm from to do a third movie. On the last case I caught, it's called Crash Out Season. My brother had got robbed and my mama had them call him and she like, she wanted me to go do something to the people that robbed my brother. So I jumped in the car and I was speeding on the way to Motree. And I got pulled over. And I had a warrant for my arrest. I sat and sat down for nine months and a whole lot of stuff just happened while I was in jail at that time. Wow. What inspired you to start doing movies? I just used to be on YouTube. Like I tell people all the time, people tell me they don't know how to do nothing. Like, I don't smoke. I don't know how to roll no blunt because I ain't never put my head, put my mind to it. So I always was big on YouTube. Like, Soldier Boy is not one of my favorite rappers but he's a big influence. Yeah, he pretty sharp when it comes. He the one showed people like, people don't pay attention to him. That boy, that, he real good at marketing. So I was just like, I used to see people that got their own little independent movies on YouTube. And my mama had, my mom and dad about, it was like, I thought like 13 years old, I told my mama though, instead of some shoes and clothes and cream, I was like, I want a camera. I had got a can of T2I. And my mama was like, my dad was like, he want a camera, what you want a camera for? I started shooting videos, doing photography and I shot me and moving. And then when I had started making all that money, it didn't doubt my dad to start believing. It was like, man. That's dope, man. I made some of my money out. Like, I've been getting hated on in school for a long time cause I had more money than all of them. Yeah. I liked the fact that you were young and you took that initiative to do all of that and you had that drive for it. Cause a lot of times kids, they want something, start with it and then it's put it down. Yeah, a lot of people don't believe in theyself. I know I'm from a small town but I feel like I can do anything I put my mind to. Where you get that from? Your mom or dad? Your mom? My dad. Your dad? My dad, when my dad was coming up, he was like five, no, my dad was like eight years old. And he was raised by my grandma. My granddad lived in New York. My grandma had went to prison for murder. She had stabbed the ladies like a hundred times. So she went to prison for like eight years. My daddy got sent to New York and he got raised by my granddad. So my granddad made him get out in hustle and start to just explore. So my dad put that in us, the hustle that he got from me in New York, he put it in us. My dad, he had money coming up but he made us work for everything. He never just give us nothing. He like, okay, Jeff, cause I got it. Don't mean you got it. And we always had to work. We was selling five words. We were doing what up. We were raking y'all or whatever. Like that's why I thank my dad for everything. He taught us cause he taught us to value a dollar. You know? That's very important. He ain't just spoon feed us, you know? Yeah. So when you look at just what your dad taught you, you feel like if it hadn't been for him, you wouldn't be in a situation you are now. I can't get her out of credit though. Cause my mom was the first one that believed in me. Okay. And my dad, he ain't believing me to everybody that start believing in me. So family is important. Yeah. You gotta get that. I like that. Family there important. But you know what? It's called balance. The female gives you some stuff and the man give you some. I wish I could bring my dad on the show man. And my daddy, he ended up. He ended up, I ended up talking to him one, it was probably like five, six months ago. It was at my nephew's birthday party. And he had the, he had been hanging in the street that I'm making a lot of money. And I had him told him I'm a mother. I had them made in that month. And he was like, he like, well, let me hold something. I was like, what you need? He had him for $38,000. And I told him, I'm like, well, let go. I'll go get it for you. He like, what? And I went to where I had the money he had and I gave it to him. Wow. That's dope right there. And he was right here to tell you. Yeah, we need to bring him on the show. He tell all his friends all the time. He like, boy, he told my mama that day when I had my country video, he like, boy. Also, he said, I'm so glad I didn't, you see, I'm so glad for that one right there. Well, my mama and my dad got three kids together. He was like, man, I work hard on that one right there. Cause my, he don't get along with my big brother and my sister. I was just about to ask you cause the fact that he said that, I was wondering how was his relationship with me. Well, if you give me 38,000, it's going to weigh a little bit different than the other cause that's, and for you to get it on your own like that and give it to him, that's dope, man. That's dope. Some people try to buy their parents a house or something like that. I bought my mama house. I paid my mama house off. Yeah, but I try to get her moved to Atlanta cause I got a lot of ops in my hometown but she don't want to leave. Yeah. And how old are you again? 25. Yeah, that's dope, man. That's dope. That's why when I, when I seen you and when you talked, I knew I had to get you on the show cause I'm like that young dude right there, he making moves. He ain't trying to hear. About two, three, that's what I mean. He ain't letting nothing hold him back. I'm being so icy. I got so much drool on the way. For real, I got a drool out there in Houston making my three straight chain and then I got my wind up beat chain on the way. Drooling Atlanta just hit me up before I got here. I'm going to go pick that up. What's up with the book? Ain't no kids. Um, I'm waiting. I'm trying to find, now I don't got no kids. Wow. Um. On the book. I'm, I'm trying to wait. I'm trying to find a writer. Okay. I can, you know, I could talk. I need somebody I can sit and talk to and for them to write it. Cause I had them wrote the move already in jail. So I got the mover already wrote. We just can start a family from do a casting call. But I need to find me a writer. Cause I know how to publish them. I might can help you with that. I know old boy that he deals with movies a lot. I'm a, And they didn't wrote a couple of books. I'm going to do the book and I'm going to give out like probably like 20 copies to each prison in the state of Georgia. Cause I want to show all the young men that's in the, in the Georgia Department of Corrections that just keep your head up. You can make it out of any situation. You know what I'm saying? Jim, because you, you know, I know I got friends. I got homeboys that got life that went to trial and end up getting life sentences. They did seven years, came up for appeal and came home. You know what I'm saying? Just keeping faith, staying in that law book. It just stayed positive. You know, when I, like I said, when I, when I caught the case I caught everybody in my age drew it. It's like, yeah, it's over for three. And it wasn't. And yeah, and it wasn't, you know? Yeah. So now they look at me. Like I said, I went viral on TikTok. People coming up to my, oh, he's a snitch. Isn't that hot? Snitch. If I went down on the case by myself, I ain't had no code offenders. I had 20 witnesses against me. I didn't have no code offenders. Wow. That's crazy, man. So I turned myself in. My little homeboy that, wait, I said, no, bro. Y'all boys staying here, bro. I'm gonna go down here by myself. I don't need default tricking y'all. None of that, you know? Yeah, I see the people that you was working with years ago, three, you say three years ago, you're not working with them anymore. For us on the video, the features and all those guys. Cause the music like it's changing, of course it's gonna be off. Cause I'm focusing on myself because at first I was trying to ride a little feature way, but then all these rappers, they be wanna be Hollywood, man, these folks, you paying for a feature. They don't even wanna post it. So I feel like I'm gonna build my own stuff for. They do not wanna post it. You write about that. Yeah, and they be like, they ain't obligated to. I'm like, man, they get like you and, you wanna never up and coming. Yeah. But then you done songs with Kwon Do, Rondo. You've done songs with a lot of known artists. Yeah, Jose Guapo. Jose Guapo. Jose posted it. Jose carrying down the motion for the video. No, I can't speak on. Now Kwon Do, he went Hollywood. Me and Kwon Do was in the same dorm together. When Kwon Do came up with that song, I remember I was in the same dorm with him. I was two sales down from him. He been on the sale, right? Coming up with that song. He got up for me. He was sitting on the car. Yeah, he went viral. Being said that I remember and telling everybody to spell NBA Youngboy. NBA Youngboy signed him. That's how he blowed. Wow. So how far you think you away from just, from blowing? And will you ever sign or will you remain independent? Nah, I don't feel like I ever signed. Cause I don't see my money. A lot of these folks don't see me without a deal. Yeah, yeah. I know, yeah, yeah. You seem like you can take it on, man. Building your own team out. Yeah. I'm just pushing. All my homeboys get out, you know. I'm my kind of bougie. He, you know, he should be out on the monitor too. My kind of, my kind of PK, Dork in the Feds, PK, he been locked up like seven years on the murder charge. He was gonna get out in a couple months. I'm just waiting on all these boys to get out, you know. You gonna try to stay out of trouble? Oh, yeah. They're going to jail in cool. I gotta stay out of trouble. Cause every time I go to jail, then they be looking crazy. They don't got nobody to tell them no money, you know. Yeah, yeah. So you like to leave? Yeah, I'm. You heard what his daddy told him. He told you don't slip. Yeah. He's been sticking with that. I tell you, I went to jail a couple weeks ago. I got caught on the road because of my brother. Now I got, I got to put that in the movie. Cause my brother be the main reason why I, I don't want to jail two times on how my big brother, my big brother got into an incident. And my mama told me, she said, get up. I need you to call me. Cause your brother's gonna go to jail. They finna impound the car. She like, you need to drive the other car. We get to the crime scene. The police like, hey, we need your driver license too. So before you can drive the car. And I had a warrant for my arrest since February. So I went to jail. They transferred me to another jail. I was so mad. I told the police, I said, man, we got to the jail. I said, put me in on my brother. He's like, why so he can beat him up? Yeah. You see, I wasn't no inmate of that jail. So they want to put me in. So they sat me in the hold and said, till they transferred me to jail. And they saw I was going down in Motri? In a, it was Motri and I went to jail in Motri, but I had a warrant in another county close to Motri. Okay. Okay. Yeah, man. So what do you expect to be like, like, what do you want this music to take you and the other whole movement? I feel like you're a brand. Cause you looking at all, you looking at movies. You looking at books. I like the way you're doing that. Cause you're not sticking to the line, right? Yeah. Clothing line. What's the name of the clothing line? Black hippies clothing. Black hippies, how long ago did you put, start that out? Me and my home, my boo just started that. We started about 10 years ago. Dang. But we really just be focusing on, we just be focusing on making it help us save money. You know, like we don't wear other people's clothes. We just wear ours. I like that. You know? Well, let me ask you this. And why that name for that brand? Cause my, come out home by Booja. He's a hippie. That's how he do a smoke. We say, I don't smoke, you know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So when you, when you... It was, when he was in prison and I was taking him in prison and I told her, I said, look Booja, I said, when you get out this time, I need you do something legit. I said, bro, I'm from the Stardia legit company. I said, bro, come over to the logo. I said, I got the graphic designer. I want you to do something legit. Cause I ain't want my home bus steady going back and forth to prison. And when I first started my career, he was hustling. He was trapping the store and investing in me with my music. You know what I'm saying? So it was on the right when he went to prison for hustling that I, when he came home, I gave him, you know what I'm saying? Looked out for him. So that's how we started the clothing line. Cause I wanted to get my home bus, something legit to do instead of going back to prison. That's cool. But he done got a lot up again for the same thing. I told him that time that we opened up a store. I'm gonna open up a store, Black Hipster. So you be pressing and all that stuff. You know how to do everything? Yeah, I do. I press. I do all that stuff. I know how to make graphics, logos, all that stuff and I make my own mix take covers. One other category of a brand is there that you have not started doing. Cause you sound like you touched almost every category. That's why you like independence it too. I don't, what? That's why you like being independent. Cause you the movie, the book, the clothes, like what else is there? I got to stay at the independent lane because if I go, if I feel like I'm at a certain, then you know, they're gonna be trying to tell me what to do. Tell me what to do. Just like I told you, I did the cowboy song. I just did the country song. I seen that. I like that cowboy song. I said, this nigga trying to say in country. Yeah, I just dropped. Look, me and my homo was in the studio. We was in Miami. We had some girls in there, right? So my cousin, me and him, I don't, me and him, we ain't seen at all right now. I don't deal with him no more though. And I never deal with him again. Cause he got some body, he got some people do something to my brother. But we was in the studio with some girl. He was hating on me. So he was like, you made all your song about the same thing, man. I don't know if I don't want to hear that. I was like, what? I said, put it on beat. I'll make country song right now. And that's how you hear them in the beginning of the song. But I was like, nigga talking about it. Nigga, I ain't versatile. All right. I heard that today. And that's how I came up with it. And then I linked up with one of Kanye West or I'm feeling directors. And they feel my video. They did. They did. It cost me a lot of money to do that video. And I told, we were filming that video from eight in the morning to eight at night. Wow. Like I said, the independent ground is real. And you're all you speaking on is entrepreneurship. And it's just you dressing it up in a way that comes from our culture. And a lot of people can't understand that. They're going to call it hood or ghetto, but it's really entrepreneurship, really dressed up with a real good sauce to me. You know what I'm saying? So I love it, man. I love what you, I love everything that you done pretty much told us about on this platform. A lot of young people sitting in that seat and can't articulate the craft like you just did. And doing the things that you're doing. No, no, it's dope, bro. And that's why I'm messing with you earlier too. I want to rock with you. I like you, man. I love you. I tell you, I don't even got the manager in there. Yeah, I don't manager or nothing. You just out here rockin' and rollin', man. Do you have a team? No, but he is too. Everybody liked him. Yeah, everybody liked him. So you're doing everything by yourself. Your mama? Your mama helping? My mama, she can't really, she promote me on Facebook still like that, but she can't really promote. I got homeboys in the inner feelings stuff, but they can't really promote my music because there's stuff I'm rapping about, you know? Yeah, yeah. But I think you're doing a great job, man. And whatever God got for you is coming to you. You ain't got to worry about nothing, man, for real. When I be in Miami, I moved to Miami last May when I got out of jail. I got in a situation, one of my homeboys I was in prison with, he's like, man, three, you need to come. He's like, man, he stay getting in trouble in Georgia, man, come to Miami. I told him, I said, man, if you can show me I can make more money in Miami, then I'm making Georgia, I'll come. That boy paid me $1,000 a day for like six months. Man. And all I was doing was just watching him back because he got like $250,000 in jewelry and he ain't want nobody to snatch the chain. Wow, see, the game real serious out here. And if you ain't living it, you won't think about it. You know what I mean? And then I'm gonna tell you how me and him kind of cool. When I was at the prison, I was at low security prison. I was telling everybody, when I get out, I'm going back to school. So he was telling everybody, man, that nigga three, he ain't, he ain't know none of that nigga talking about, he going back to school and he get out, man, he a schoolboy. So you know how black, well, I ain't gonna say black. You know how negative people is, they was like, they was trying to stir, stir stuff or they trying to make up fight. So I was like, hey, bro, you talking about me, you telling if I'm a schoolboy or this and that? I caught him on the yard and I called him out. I'm like, yeah, bro, you said this and that. He was like, nah, bro. He like, bro, I'm a schoolboy too. So my release date with Jane Red 15, he was a 17. He gave me information. I gave him mine. He was like, bro, we get out, bro, I'm a hitch up, bro. I wasn't expecting that kind of got a lot up. Put it aside, I gave up my information, they ain't never hit me up. That's one dude, I can say I own, I can't say I own the world, but I owe him a lot because he really changed my life. Me going to prison and me and him was like the best thing that could ever happen to me, you know? Wow, man, I like it, man. Like I say everything, and it's just, like I say again, I don't know what you do as far as what he done and if he rap or what, I don't know. Yeah, he rap too. Okay, so he got the change. He just don't want to put no music out. Like you used to look at him, he got a quarter million dollars in jewelry, but he don't put none of that music out. He got, I got some songs with him though, but other than that, he won't release his music. For show. Hey, man, we appreciate you for coming on the show. Yes, we appreciate being here. No, man, great job, great interview, great energy, man. Say, man, we love you, brother. Love you too, man. For show, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we out.