 Thank you for staying with us. Power social relationships are one-sided relationships where one person extends emotional energy Interest in time and the other party the persona is completely unaware of the other's existence Now when we relate this to the current impact of celebrities on Gen Z culture several questions are raised My first one being why why do we idolize and care so deeply for people that do not even know us Why do we allow them to influence our lifestyle so heavily from what we wear to what we eat to how we structure our days Why are we so enamored by people who do not even know we exist? Let's talk about it. Remember, you can join the conversation Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to 081 803 84663 and follow us on all our social media platforms. So Why I I read somewhere about Erectomania. Mm-hmm. So this is essentially like delusion It's delusion. It's when you think someone you just have an idea of someone that you don't even know It's when you think someone's better than they are worse than they are It's also why like cancer cultures a thing we have we form relationship with people that we don't even know We form opinions of people that we don't even know that they can't even defend themselves on then you start shouting I'm so disappointed in you. You know, how could you do this to me? You have broken my heart and they're like, who are you? It's like we put celebrities in such a high pedestal that when they just make a simple mistake This person is cancelled. I can't believe they did that My kid is watching you look at what you're doing No But like yesterday we were talking about how people need to recognize the power that they have second you are giving a Platform like that like you can literally say that oh Rubbing blue band person on your face every night can clear all your pimples forever and people will realistically start doing that Yes, so I think it's understanding the power that you possess. What the same time? Let's look at it from the other perspective Why are you allowing somebody to tell you how to live your life? Where did I ever come from? Yeah Maybe because because of the pedestal they Celebrities they adore on they maybe admire some qualities Yeah, so they're like if they're telling you put blue band on my face and they have such clear skin I see that and you know I was thinking about this topic while I was having breakfast and I was also Looking at it from the perspective of escapism, right? You feel like my life is so boring or all my court I'm applying to university. I'm being very personal with this one right now University and I have essays to write I have things to submit but listen look at these people getting ready for the Metcala I just want to like beat them for a day You know watch the get ready with me videos a day in my life. What's in my bag? But do you guys think that this is healthy? No, that's how normalizing is not healthy Yeah, I feel like it has been normalized But then number one it could have like such negative effects on mental health Also like eating because then if you see a celebrity Maybe skinny or like a particular body type you admire you're going to be like I'm not going to eat this I'm going to eat that some people do that and it takes a toll on their mental health. You told me Yeah, it's just like how celebrities control the beauty standard 100% let's talk about Kim Kardashian Like it seems that whatever she does everyone else for the six hundred percent like Like when we're just thinking about it and you said that the second she Got everything moved. That's when we went back into the skinny girl. Yeah, you know, so Like it's just going back to when you possess that much power. What exactly are you going to do with it? but then how exactly can we Come to a point of awareness where we realize that okay, listen, maybe I am too invested in these people How do I become more content with my life and make this adoration maybe healthier, you know Something my mom always used to tell us well Why do we keep watching people on TV when we can be the people they're watching on TV? So instead of sitting around, you know Admiring people hoping to be them why not go out there and be someone people admire to be yeah. Yeah, so guess just planning and Yeah, you have to make that decision within yourself like, okay I need to be the person on the other hand of the admiration Because I'm giving the admiration And you know what like these typically seeing people thrive seeing people succeed should be some kind of motivation Shouldn't know be but then like like I don't mention before social media and you know getting to Look at what's in my bag day in my life kind of makes you live vicariously through them So you kind of feel content in your position because you're like, oh, at least I'm living this double life where I am beyond say why No, but yeah, it's just very interesting but to take this conversation to a more Solution-driven, you know direction Apart from you know using big terms like we just need to look intrinsically How exactly do you think that we as a generation can detach ourselves from this? You know, we can't we're not going to stop using technology. You guys can't stop using my phone How can we look at these videos and recognize that Listen, these people don't know who I am. So I should not be acting like they're my best friends. How do we Admire them, but still remain true to ourselves I think we also have to introduce like better role models Like like locally because a lot of people looking out here international I want to be like Beyonce. I want to be like Rihanna, but we don't really talk about people around us So we just have to be better Motivators to our younger ones better. Motivators to the ones people around us Yeah, and we also need to look at these people didn't just wake up And became you and see they have suffice. They went through trials and tribulations Yeah, so it's like look at the background work and everything and motivate yourself No, we prefer to do the same thing. I 100 percent agree. So now let's look at Parasocial relationships in themselves. What do you guys You guys defined it before we looked at the quote. What do you guys think about it? I feel like Parasocial relationships, you know how they're like one sided relationships It's like people have this illusion that the person on the receiving isn't the receiving hand the celebrity The celebrities um, somehow know them or like our friends with them because they like Have this sense of oh, I know you through your vlogs. I know you through your instagram page When you really don't really know them Like the instagram pages are just fragments of their lives. Yeah, you see you see a little glimpse and you're like this person is my best friend Yeah, I know this but they will never do this. They'll never step up so character like this You don't actually know the people that's exactly people don't realize that has such a negative effect on the celebrities themselves Some people are like, oh, maybe the celebrities don't care because like, I mean I'm famous. I'm getting cloud But sometimes it could be really scary for them because it could lead to stalking It could lead to many like traumatizing things for them By the same time they can't address it because they don't want to hurt the fans who actually made them I'm like took them to where they are right now. So they're just costly dehumanized Have their own emotions or anything along the lines of that. I 100 percent agree But now not to play the blame game. Do you think that we can say that it's their fault for Overglamorizing their lives Or what would you say about that? No, I don't think so Like even celebrities are not like as Social media presence. They still have fans. They still have people that care so much about their lives It seems more to grow an audience You just But then what about the people that you know, like you even mentioned in terms of like Body image and how they control the body standards, you know doing what I eat and it is and it's like one almond And you know water and that is what you have eaten in that whole day So I do think that to a certain degree. They can't be held responsible for you know Making it toxic. Yeah, but I don't think 100 percent. So what do you guys think? Not necessarily 100 I think it's really what you make of it because some people It I feel like this on both sides because at the same time they are celebrities who do Who make their page and they're like platform to like motivate people like self-care I don't know body image Positivity stuff like that. But also if you see someone eating one almond a day and what are they although it might make you feel like Okay Am I really fat? Am I really not doing what's right at the same time you could take a step back and think that like Is it that deep? Yeah, and the one you copy them if you cannot go for one almond a day you have to eat. Yeah, that's true That is true Apart from that though, I think that Now since we're talking in the last episode yesterday We're talking about how easy it is right now for anybody to have a platform, you know, you can Hold your foot. I can take my phone right now take a selfie and be like, yeah, follow me on my journey Teen takeover being your fabulous teenage host and you know, I'll just blow like that And just like that, you know, it's not just regular old Yasmin. It's celebrity Yasmin So I think we should also address how important it is for you You know as more young people get more platforms I think it's important to realize the power that you hold and realize the impact that she can make on the younger generations Or your peers or even the older generation because I've seen comment sections and I've seen people being like I'm 40 years old and I cry when I watch your videos. I love listening to your stories about your love life You never know who you are engaging. You never know who you are impacting You never know how much you truly need to these people if you understand and I think it might be frightening to a certain degree Having someone so invested in your life but Have you guys heard of how they named a church as a Beyonce store? I promise you it's called the Beyonce mass And they sing her song as like a worship. I think I mean, I'm not judging but That is interesting. Yeah I don't think it's Beyonce still worshiping her own god while they're worshiping her Oh, yeah No, like I mean the general code. Is that is that like Okay, wait, because we I feel like there's so much to unpack there. So it's like singing Beyonce songs. Yeah, and it's just like They are analyzing Beyonce it's close into a point where like it's really terrifying Oh That is very very interest That's very interesting. Um, so I I do not want to talk about swarm TV because all my parents will know that I'm no of swarm But yes, I have seen Of swarm But yeah, that was basically just a representation of everything that we're talking about, right? I don't know if you guys have watched it or even heard of what's about not at all. Are you serious? No, am I going to be the one introducing? Yes. Okay. Thank you. This is a live TV um, so it's So it's basically this show about this girl that is very obsessed with This celebrity People have conspiracy theories about who the celebrity in question is but you know, we can talk about that after the show But yeah, and she does very crazy things very scary things to be honest and I mean, I guess you can see it's very exaggerated because it's on our screens Words guys, we don't know what's going on because there are some people that are doing really Ridiculous things all in the name of a celebrity. Yeah You're gonna change me for this analogy Is it marble? I can guess it's marble It's Eminem No, because she has been talking about this all day. Even when we're doing our makeup So essentially eminem like in 2002 made a song called stan. That's where it really did Yeah, that word. Yeah Mind blown I did not know that That's my friend's favorite song Yes Yeah, I mean stoker fan and people have reclaimed it like I'm a bts stan And it's crazy how I see it with pride as well. Yeah Like eminem legit sort about all the bad parts of having several fans and they just like, yeah I'm like, yeah, yeah, I'm an eminem stan Just called everyone out for being a stan. Yes. It's overdone now. Yeah, it is But guys, I don't know why I feel like I just feel they need to let it out and confess that I might be a marble stan Might? Oh my god I can tell you right now if I like say anything negative about marble Yasmine slapped me She slapped me. Yeah for very playfully and lightly as she should Hey Can we like link this how social relationships can lead to bullying This is how can you say one bad thing about a celebrity you look it's game over It's just the end. No, but honestly, it is very terrifying And like I said before it's escapism. You guys sometimes like it's a bit too tough And I'm like I'm going to go be a superhero for a day. I'm going to go save the world With the og6 my favorite people on the entire planet Yeah, okay, so my friend like she's a summer walker fan She said that she finds comfort in her songs that she has gotten her through so many stuff And just like at the other on the other hand like a lot of people like Find peace and yeah, use it as therapy. Yeah, they find peace with celebrities I said we don't do anything out there. You shouldn't put your Yourself I don't have to describe it should rely on you should rely on the celebrity Yeah pressure on yourself and the celebrity because in the celebrity messes up now They're going to control your emotions. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's really unhealthy. Yeah And I feel like it's so easy because right now like it's so easy to come here and be like Everybody that's obsessed with these celebrities. They're crazy like you guys need to like stand up. Okay stop being so but then like I feel like we've done it as well. I know I don't have as obsessed with it. I know Still are you still or is it when you were an Eminem? Stop I had my burn-up way fees. I will not lie to you I got so many arguments with Yasmin. No, yeah I had my brain up with me. Can we take a moment to appreciate how I am not evicted into any partial relationship Okay, I'm okay. So before this episode ends. I am going to call you out I'm going to get to that slide couldn't agree couldn't agree. No, he is He's cute looking but I know like obsessed with him. I know that he doesn't know me, you know, yeah Okay, we see it's noted the things That part is indeed noted with things. But yeah, this isn't in any way judging. This is a productive conversation where we talk about How we can make this love celebrities more healthy, you know less terrifying and less Obsessive obsessed. Thank you. You know took the words right right out of my mouth. So, yeah, we've talked about Working on your self-esteem Striving towards seeing how and you know, but then how exactly can you make it less of an escapism kind of thing? How exactly can you, you know, not attach your happiness and your peace to a person because these are human beings They're going through their own problems. They're going through their own struggles And then you see this person comes on instagram and does a video that talks about how you guys I know I've been a ray of sunshine, but honestly, I've been going through so much. How do you Detach yourself from that As Yasmin said, sorry, as someone said It's self-esteem Problem I just feel like you just need to love yourself more And take time to yourself like get to know yourself better Because you can't rely on celebrity. They're going to and imagine we rely on them for our own happiness Who can they go to? They don't have celebrities to go to So just need to really reevaluate yourself and just be like, okay I love this person so much, but I need to love myself more. Oh, I like that That's it. I love this person so much, but I need to like I need to love myself more Yeah, that's that's it. That's the next quote No, yeah, but thank you guys so much. This was very very insightful We're going to go on a very short break right now and we'll be right back If you were just tuned in, we are discussing parasocial relationships and the effects of celebrities on gen Z culture Please let's hear what you have to say. Remember, you can join the conversation By sending us an sms or whatsapp to 081 803 84663 And because it's a special the phone line is going to be open all week So you can call us on 070 250 077 49 If you call, please remember to turn down the volume of the device so we don't get any feedback Okay, so I think we've discussed Parasocial relationships rather extensively. So let's move on to the effects both positive or negative So Let's talk about Can we call Andrew Tate a celebrity? He's a celebrity. He has so much influence. He does Okay So, um, let's talk about the effect of that kind of celebrity in particular on gen Z culture Oh Because Andrew Tate has deciphered the way to get sorted to teenagers, essentially He knows how to make little like younger children. I wanted that He's like He just he acts like he knows what he's saying all the time He acts like he's like an almighty person. No, whatever Andrew Tate says He starts off with like general knowledge like the truth, but then he like it's twice with his own Perspective and then he makes it make sense Okay, yeah He makes it make sense. So everybody's eating it up. They're like, wow, that's That's the truth. And it's also the way that Andrew Tate is like Broadcasted everywhere. You can go on tiktok without seeing Andrew Tate And then you're giving him more views and then he's reaching a wider amount of people Even if you're hate-watching you're still watching so then he's still going to reach more people I think that's just about how people enable these type of celebrities Like if you didn't give Andrew Tate a platform in the first place then we wouldn't be in this mess And I think also because of like, you know, I was talking about like displaying your glamorous lifestyle You know, he has like the cars, you know, what color is your Everybody wants to be him exactly And why are people hating on him? I'm kind of confused. Where's the hate coming from? Have you watched an Andrew Tate video before? I have not Um, he's He says a lot of not very nice things and given the platform that he has It's not the best way to handle it. He has a lot of young people that grasp on to everything he says and I guess it's just really destructive, you know, for him to be preaching that kind of knowledge on to their minds So let's look at a positive effect Does anybody I feel like just for the sake of The world being a piece of the world, we should just not associate the two of them Let's look at the celebrity that's giving us positive Are you serious Guys, are you serious? Well, no, we have many yeah Yeah, you see Okay She's like a human rights activist. No, that's my lala Right. Wait, is it right? Mahalia Is it my lala? My lala is Yeah, both of them are very good people. Yeah, both are really good people. We have really good influences on both people. Yeah We actually have a message. Thank you Parasocial relationship is only mainly beneficial where the impact nudges the observer towards positive growth and behavior What do you guys think? 100 percent, right? I do agree with that That's another way that I can be there's no other way but in a sense Do you think that parasocial relationships in themselves are even what can be perceived as positive? Yeah, because when you idolize That's where you idolize When you look at somebody you look at their lifestyle You want to be them and you see them doing healthy stuff like talking publicly about mental health You go and get the help that you need in that sense Parasocial relationships are being beneficial True, but the question now is should a celebrity be the one who's selling you? That's exactly Because at the end of the day, you're still putting that decision in their hands. You still have So I don't really know Um, I think that's Since why Nigeria Let's just bring her home a bit, right? Let's look at some Nigerians and everything. Can we speak on naramali? Naramali Because the amount of influence he has on Nigerians now like the Mali and everything Is quite alarming. I'm not Naramali fans or anything No hate at all But it's just that Malians, at least the ones I know, if you disrespect naramali in any way, shape or form They are going to come for you. They are going to come for you. It's terrifying No, because some fandoms are terrifying Some fandoms are absolutely terrifying and also enabling bad behavior of people Like even if you see the most candle that has happened with debut And you know somebody does something that's it's just morally not right. I used to like If debut don't has 10 fans then I am all of them. If he has one fans then So it's just like backing them to the end of time I personally Do not think that parasocial relationships can't be healthy in any kind of way because even if for one second This celebrity does something positive and you're inspired They are human beings and they still have a chance of messing up Yeah, you know and you shouldn't put that responsibility or that power on their shoulders You never know how things are going to end up going, you know So we have a question coming in How do you think parents can help with the different people who claim to you celebrities affecting their children? I think my mom always says this thing Which is like don't put yourself in the position of Effect put yourself in the position of being the cause. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, so it's like take control Don't look at it as the celebrities are affecting my children. What am I going to do? Like these celebrities are doing bad things I think it's more about Oh, I'm so sorry, but we have a caller right now Hello, good evening. Hello This is the youngest old man It's so nice to hear from you again I'm all up with my TV these days watching you guys do your thing and I really appreciate your efforts. Thank you so much Based on the topic today, um, I really think that Most of the celebrities are not helping in that sense of um, what they are sending out to the society Because you see these people have followers and what they what they say, okay, what's up on the music? I think I listened to one the other day and I tried to get the words. I tried to get the words. I need to get the trust You know the language is different You understand and some of them will come with some Some local language to you see somebody mixing English and robot to become a word and you guys understand why we don't understand because in our days we listen more to Conscious music music that means some from situations of today You understand but this time people would also talk about how naked how smoky how destructive and all these things and even the pictures that they portray is so It's so destroyed destructive To my eyes talk less of somebody that is still coming up. So basically I see that my celebrities need Jesus in the sense that Ah, they need to have what we call the kind of sit and talk I don't really go into I'm talking about the musicians. So don't get me wrong Most of the actors are doing well The art films like you see some that the art films When you do rituals and by the end of the film again before the theme ends They'll tell you that they will she show you that Did the percussion of the ritual and how the person got into trouble and how he He repented if possible to bring you one pastor to go and pray for one other thing So some of the films do end well, but the music man. The music is not helping issue Because in a situation where you play a song and you're telling the younger child That you used to you'll be showing yourself with gone We're not americans for goodness sake. What culture? We have tradition And basically the religion that we got from somewhere else. I don't really put that into perspective But that's our culture is something you don't tell me you don't bring the music into my palo It's playing my kids are watching. I just displaying gone naked women And some of them will be showing that they are the treated And we know the start of stuffs so they are not helping because Sometimes people do more what people do they don't listen Because that same week they'll see go to church the pastor's we say have good things and things that they need to do But it's not what I see the tv that they pick more interest on something the celebrities to be more cautious You know stand you say your message positively non negatively Mostly see what people think and their airport is in their air 247 they listen to those words Sometimes you have somebody say I shoot You know what is that sense coming into so basically I think the celebrities especially the musicians Need to be worked on if I didn't need Jesus in the perspective of sitting them and sitting them down talking to them That look at and destroy and they don't have anything They think they are destroying other children But those kids that they destroyed we still come back to destroy their own kids because they will become fathers one day And the thunder will fire back that mean they tell you life What goes around comes around so you guys should write to them speak to them If I play what I'm saying to them for them to hear that what goes around comes around you can destroy somebody's own I think you all will go free Thank you very much. Thank you He deserves a round of applause What goes around comes around About celebrities do things that are beneficial to them that bring profit Like that's what a lot of people have like naked girls or like guns because that's what sells It's what sells it's what's trending They normalize it they make it seem so normal Exactly and then when you pick it up you see is you see kids nowadays drinking smoking Looking at state I'm meant to see like we need to stop Yeah, we do need to stop but then at the end of the day Do you think somebody like just woke up and was like in my music video I'm going to put like destruction and Everything and then you know And it wasn't selling and then everybody still says to do is obviously People are consuming this people are enjoying this. So there has to be a fundamental issue There has to be a fundamental issue that's lying there that doesn't even Slowly have to do with the celebrities. I mean obviously there's a problem with people as well, right? There's another caller. Hello Hello, hello. Hello. Oh good evening. Good evening. Yes, my name is Boyega. I'm calling from there guys Boyega Hello, can you hear us? Yes I wanted to say that I totally enjoyed listening to you. They need to speak Thank you so much. Thank you so much And I'm amazed at how much knowledge and how much informed you guys are It's fantastic Um When I was your age I bet you that you didn't have this much exposure and this much self-consciousness. So I really applaud you. Let's get big My comment though on your on what you guys are talking about is I think it's more about your final system and I want to encourage that Why you have so much in terms of Rule model out there. You might want to choose carefully The ones that you want to so not all of them are bad, right? There's some that will still be able to inspire you So while you cannot categorize all of them in one bucket Why don't you choose carefully? The people that you listen to the kind of music the kind of same part you get from them Um, and you might be surprised that there's still a lot of seven pieces out there And I actually need to be in right information And feedback to this your generation I think that would be my advice But I would give kudos to you guys in terms of the knowledge you have and please keep it up. Thank you so much Thank you for calling So what do you guys think? I think it's quite hard to find good role models on like social media sometimes Because what's at the top you see? Oh some of the guns clap. Oh, you'll see someone like oh doing this and doing that It's really hard to find good role models. You have to like Yeah, and I think that Briega was right in terms of you also need to remember your values When I leave my house from home is always like oh more like remember your values remember where you come from All of that and you also need to look at you look at yourself Yeah Nobody can make this change for you. You have to sit down examine yourself and be like okay These people that I'm looking at these celebrities that I saw I don't Are they the best thing for me in this point in my life? Are they really adding any value to my life? 100% and back to the lyric thing Yes, I get nowadays because it's trending people tend to put more Volga things in their song But they're forgetting that they are popping artists who are trending off of seeing empowering things like Alicia Keys Yeah, we are here. Yeah all the lyrics that talked about all the like problems happening around the country and everything Talk about how we should be strong and everything So I think that they are still if you artist who try to empower people and are still trending So it just really depends Which one you want to I'm so sorry to cut you off, but we have a caller right now. Hello Hi, who's this? Okay, this offer Oh Hello Yeah, so Because if you want to say that Sometimes, you know that they are also products of their own specific situations for example Then this entire category of music country and then in drill it's created by these uk rappers that their entire life is like It's surrounded by gang violence By selling of drugs and lots of other devices that we know we don't want our children to see So you can't exactly just say that because you don't want to see these kinds of things on your for you page on tiktok or whatever You will now go and stop their own life from being what it already is So you have to take the active measures yourself So be able to prevent yourself from becoming like these people or letting them like have an effect on you 100% Thank you so much for calling Thank you I 100% agree with everything that he said Um, there's something that our mom says She's really big on like the mind and the power of the mind So then she says um, my mind is a palace and so I'm not going to let anybody come with their He's in it Do you remember I do remember we like I think it was really interesting that he talked about lyrics I'm talking about young Youngest old man. Yeah, when he called when he talked about lyrics We don't know how much we actually internalize the things that we listen to when we're walking around I can't study. I can't do anything without listening to music. Yes So we don't know how much these lyrics actually like seep into our minds and influence how we think Oh, yeah. Well, I'll get back to that. We have a caller Hello Right, it is very normal for us to show relatable to people especially Like And kind of like For people that we can relate to But it comes to become unhealthy When you centigrade that relationship, like that relationship is more important to you than real life relationships When you draw inspiration from them all the time Knowing that it means receiving you on the wrong path So again because I think our social relationships are like perfectly normal And they're very common for human and like when natural we socially create a social crisis And it's okay for us to feel Relatable to someone that we think and You know can help us So we do not not really start right from wrong So it's better. There's a Right way or this testing is leading the wrong way and then you just Look at the decision on whether Again About that, I think we have to look at the different types of parasocial relationships So what miss here one day what I've probably been talking about is like entertained social social relationships But there's like three stages. There's the intense personal and then there's like borderline pathological So it just depends what category you in like I wouldn't say anyone should be borderline pathological. Yeah, that one is like really obsessive Can you elaborate on borderline pathological? This is when you're obsessed Yes, like to the level of stalking You think so highly of them. Yeah, you actively look for them like that those type of that I think having like an entertained social that you're entertained by the person. That's fine. Yeah, that's completely normal 100% so I think that from all the amazing people that have called so far I think that there's been a common theme which is that we have the power to actually Change, you know, um, as long as we're able to take control of our mind and Understand that we have the power to choose what we consume Um, we'll get back to that. We have a caller. Hello Hello. Hello. Can you hear me? I wanted to talk about her social Relationship and I believe that it depends On the person you say the relationship between the propane celebrity is negative and positive You just put there are some celebrities Of positive effects on your viewers. I'd like to take the example of TK activity for example I think because like she gives lectures to her viewers and she, you know, she tells her viewers and she She's good thing. So she influences them positively. So I just wanted to say that like Relationship depends on like How the celebrity will portrays themselves And how the viewers Yes, yeah, thank you so much to me um So, yeah, I 100% agree with everything that she said So I think we began this I began by saying that power social relationships are negative in any way because they are obsessive and Kind of terrifying, but I think I might have misunderstood the definition in a way. It's not just Being obsessed with someone and as Adora perfectly explained it's also being able to relate to people being able to Feel like you have someone that you can escape to or a life that can escape to for a little bit But yeah, just need to remember that we have the power to choose, right? 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