 Well good morning, good evening, good afternoon. I hope you all are doing well. I really was kind of debating on if to do this video or how I should do this video, what sort of style and so forth. Many of you know I've had Alexander Pagani on here before and I have always stated that if I see something that I do not agree with, it depends upon the relationship and access. For example, if there is a person out there who is a wolf and I can't get in contact with this person, well then my job, our job, your job is to warn the body of the wolf, right? The goal is not to protect the wolf, the goal is to protect the other sheep. But you also do want to extend your hand out to say, listen, I think that what you're doing is an error because there might be a time where the person who is saying something or doing something that is heretical, it's possible to say heresy and do it unknowingly. That does happen. But then there are times where there are people who you know or you know of and you disagree with them. You can disagree with a Christian who you don't know, have no access to or a Christian who you do know or have access to. Well in this regard, I've got access to them so I reached out to Pagani on a couple occasions and this has been over about a week or so ago and I haven't gotten a response back. Now I'm pretty sure he has seen them and so that being said, I'm under no obligation to not address something that I think is really serious that he's been addressed. There is something that I think really is serious and I expressed that to him in my message that I sent to him and that I would really like to cover. I told him what it was about and so I'm going to let you all know what it is about in just a second. But I want to try to be fair but at the same time I'm not the kind of person that will just sit by quietly because hey listen, we may not be friends but we're at least friendly. We're at least cordial. Now I don't know if that's going to be the same after this or not. I don't know but still the obligation is to the Word of God. That's who I have my allegiance with, with God and His Word and then to you all. I hope to be found diligently supporting and serving the Word of God and if I think I see something that's wrong I'm going to ask, hey can you explain this? And the same for me. That's why I try to make myself available as often as I can. Sometimes it's difficult but I try to make myself available to when someone has a question or concern or even a critique because oftentimes most of the comments that I respond to are critiques. I'll say they'll say you're this, you're that and I'll say well how so? Explain to me. Most don't. And so I want to be available but then also I want the person that I'm trying to deal with or have an issue with, I want them to be available. So that being the case, I want to cover something I think to me this is just pretty troubling. I think it's troubling and I'm pretty sure that Pagani is going to see this and so I would hope that you would respond however you see fit that you could respond either coming on or calling me or hey a response video or something in the in the chats either way but I would love to know and this is guys this is and we'll cover this again but this is why I said to him the last time that he was on I think it's important that when someone disagrees with you that you be ready as the Bible says to give a defense, give an account. That's the reason you have to say why you think this or why you believe that. That's just the way it is. I'll cover that again because we talked about that on the second time that he came on and so that being said if you follow him and I do subscribe to his channel because hey let me just see what's going on because again we are friendly. I wouldn't say that we are you know we're bosom buddies and friends and so forth. I'm pretty sure there are other people that he would account more as his friend than me but at least we've been friendly and cordial. So if you've been following him he's got this the school of the prophets that's going on right now and I can't I don't I can't remember what the what the charge was for anyone that wants to come on and I think it's it's about if a person wants to either get involved or they feel like they are part of the prophetic ministry or what I'm not sure all the particulars and that's not really even the the main issue it's some of the things that come out and so I want to pull up this these clips is a few clips and I just want to examine them and then let's just see if what he's saying is biblical. Obviously if I'm on here I don't think that what he's saying holds water with the scripture so that being said let's go ahead and look at it. The ones that you have here I want you to put my name in there. We have to personalize it all right who wants to be the one to come up and the ones that you have here I want you to put my name in there and I want you you to I want you to speak these seven things and put my name in them. So now what he's doing is he is kind of it's almost like role playing matter of fact is that's not almost what it is it's role playing so he's going to have someone come up and to kind of role play as if they are prophesying to someone. Now before I get to that I would be remiss in covering something he's not the first person that I've heard bring up this term school of the prophets I've heard other people talk about this school of the prophets and the question is is that biblical is there a such thing even in the bible as the school of the prophets because some I've heard someone say well listen that's not correct we should not be teaching people how to operate a prophet or how to become one and then I heard a gentleman say well no that's in the bible the term school of the prophet is well that term in some translations you might find it in English but we're going to look at the Hebrew and see that that's not what the passage is saying the word school is not a it's not a good translation you can use it as a translation the problem is if you use that it might cause confusion okay you'll see what I mean in just a second so let's go ahead and go to let's start in first Samuel chapter 19 verse 18 and as you see says now David fled and escaped and he came to Samuel at Rama and told him all that Saul had done to him and he and Samuel went and lived at Naoth and it was told Saul behold David is Naoth in Rama then Saul sent messengers to take David and when they saw the company of the prophets prophesying and Samuel standing as he heard over them now I'll just stop there because getting into the point that's happening here is not not all that important what I want to cover is this term that's there some versions would say school of the prophets but in this version the ESB is the company of the prophets let's go ahead and pull up so you all can see the term that's used here for for company of the prophets let me pull this up a little bit so you all can see this this term that's used here is lahak okay y'all forgive me for the for the guttural sound told you all that Hebrew is a guttural language meaning that you'll have a lot of kind of coming out you know when you say certain words not guttural language but guttural meaning that a lot of the pronouns I mean a lot of a lot of the words emanate from the throat okay so uh and so this word here uh is excuse me is lahak is and then this word means uh and this reason why it's translated this word is the word company okay now you all you all will be familiar with the term a school of fish right a school of fish does not mean that they are in school or they're learning how to be fish it's a company of fish it's a grouping of fish and that's what this word means and so that's why some translations might say the school of the prophets it's not like hey they went to this particular seminary this bible college back in those days to learn how to be prophets or that's where the prophets went to to study no it was the school of a prophet or company of prophets there's another pop passage also and this is found in second kings 438 and it says Elijah came again to Gilgal while there while there was a famine in the land and the sons of the prophet were sitting we're sitting before him now this word right here for sons of the prophet has also been used in some places for school of the prophets this word for some those were for school that they use is the word bane which is bane or for sons let's put let's put on the screen where is it at there it is and will be me so this word right here bane is translated as sons okay so that being stated so there is no such thing as a school a place where you go to to become a prophet or where you would go to to learn about being a prophet so what he has here is his school of prophet that he has and so right now in this particular clip there's a young lady who comes up and she's going to practice prophesying and so they're they're what they're really doing is really role playing so let's go back to it okay it's very easy lower it a little bit okay you're gonna say you have to personalize it it's not just body language okay you have to personalize it because the the the word of the lord is to somebody because if not then it's for everybody and then you walk away and go home and the holy spirit will make you feel like even though you released it the assignment wasn't accomplished so what he's doing is and by the way guys this is if any y'all have ever been in sales this is sales 101 okay i told you all before that i owned and operated and investment banking firm and we had investment advisors we also had a mortgage division so for the insurance side and so we dealt with financial planning well when you want to talk to someone about financial planning and you've got all this competition out there you've got morgan stanley you've got the mirror lynch you've got well then mirror lynch uh you've got uh golden sacks you've got you name it right and so when you're selling to someone you want to personalize you want to put their name on it many of you have gone to some place either by furniture or there was someone to sell you to buy you sell you some clothes or to buy a car the person that's that's buying something that you're selling they're selling it to you they absolutely won't know your name and they want to personalize they can say well could you just see yourself sitting in that uh there's these there are uh ways to kind of make the sale personal and that's really what you're seeing here so at times god will send you and say apostle begani need a word give him the word of the lord now you're not going to give me a prophecy right now you're going to put apostle begani at the end of all of these all of these statements uh lord i give her permission to speak to me lord to say it to me remove all fear of the office out of her mind lord now in the name of jesus christ lord i bless my daughter now in the name of jesus which being trained laws to use her lord now in the beginning stages now what he's done is and i'm i'm skipping through some parts but what he's done is he's given her a list of things on there that he wants her to read off of and to say that to say them to him and make them personal so it'll say xyz but put his name or the person's name that you are prophesying to put their name on in front of it okay so in jesus name you ready starting in three three now remember body language and then once you get used to it then i want you to start looking at me okay all the pressure you're gonna take all of them you're gonna you're gonna do what i tell you you're gonna do all of them all right all right all right you ready starting in starting in three two one go let's say at the lord apostle begani yeah he felt that tell me you just felt that tell me you just felt that i felt something when you said that come on daughter come on so there has to be uh the bringing out the drawing out of emotions even in their rehearsal stages you've got to bring up emotions you if the if you can involve someone's senses in whatever it is they do i don't care what it is because let me just give you all a little a little hint a little clue in life we all are in sales we all are now this is one of the things that i taught the the new advisors that came to the office that they were going through training we told them that hey you are you are in sales your entire life how do i know every last one of you are in sales when you are driving down the highway and you get pulled over for speeding the cop comes up if you're smart you're in sales because you want to tell him you want to sell him the fact that you weren't speeding or the reason why or you go before the judge what do you what is the person the defendant before the judge in he's in sales if you are trying to talk to a young lady or to some guy what are you in you're in sales hey honey i'm trying to get you to know me if you go in for a job interview what are you in you are in sales okay if you're trying to buy a piece of property or sell a property or sell something you are in sales s a l e s that's where we're in okay we are always trying to convince someone of what it is that we have to offer now that can be a good thing can be it can be a bad thing what are we trying to do for the gospel we are trying to sell the idea and i know it might conjure up a negative connotation but we want people to buy into christ but now we're not off we don't need um ungodly motives we don't need uh motives that that are are kind of underhanded and no we are above board and letting people know what we're selling and why why you better buy into this idea of christ dying on the cross for you or else you're going to buy into this eternal idea of hell okay so there's a there's a good time for sales um and then there's some underhanded ways to do sales and so there you go so let's get back to it i hear the lord saying a possible now let me just say this as he's doing that he's doing two things one you got to play the atmosphere you got to you make her feel comfortable because you want to know listen that sounds good that feels good okay whenever we sent an advisory out before when we went through training for the training process we would tell people we would have them get into to the group for all the trainees and we would have them to pretend as though they are selling a product you talk to someone and this person is close to retirement and we're talking to them about it and we're trying to get an understanding of them trying to read them right and so we would also want them to feel comfortable and if the person is if the person is a guy or the guy that's trying to practice on selling we want them to also feel comfortable so let's say i'm speaking with mary and she's trying to practice her script so to speak well then mary i need to make mary feel comfortable i don't want mary to feel bad about it because if she leaves in this this little process and she feels bad about it she don't think why i can't do this i want her to feel good about it i want her to feel so you can do this and so that's what's happening here the spirit of god is showing me a possible guy i hear the lord telling me about you a possible guy i'm seeing the lord say a possible guy i'm seeing a vision a possible guy come on i had a dream with you in it okay now did you see that saying all these things and to say that this person that because this is one of the things that they would say i have a dream um i've had a dream about you well where does that come from we see that all as a matter of fact y'all remember this video i had this video up some time ago and i just want to it's just a little clip little montage of a person that we know who was known for saying the lord told me this or i had a vision or i had a dream this person right here mr marcus god is about to do something and a lot of christians right christians are going to get mad about it and it's going to happen in the next couple of months praise the lord my brothers and sisters so i got a word and it's going to make some people upset but god put this in my heart this morning i got a prophetic word for you guys today that i want to share with you that the lord gave me the lord usually speaks to me and visuals and it gives me you know a way to just show you something so i'm sitting here i'm praying and he gives me a word and he says i'm about to open the door and so i'm just sitting here you know and i'm just i'm just in prayer and i see this huge door just in the spirit it's opening wide so i want to share with you guys one of the things that the lord show me the lord show me this wave huge wave and it was like this was last year it was in the distance hey guys i want to share this dream with you that i had it god show me that there's so that's something that happens it's just normal it's par for the course you can go to any video where there's someone who said the lord the lord told me about this person the lord gave me a dream about this person what did the lord show me about this person and that's part that's par for the course to say the lord shared this with me about so and so it's it's it's just a standard operating procedure and so we see that happening here as well so let's get back to it god is showing me the spirit of god is allowing me to serve you by saying apostle come on come on the spirit declare a thing in your life he is saying well who doesn't want to know that the lord is speaking specifically about me it is if i see if i say that hey john the lord told me that you're no good the lord told me that you are a diabolical evil person he don't want to hear that no the lord didn't but if i say the lord told me to tell you that you are a great person you're awesome the lord has seen your faithfulness the lord wants to bless you i know it's been difficult i know it's been hard you've been trying to push through in the spirit and the lord wants me to let you know that he hears you and just wait just wait right so we say these things and you buy in and that you feel it that who who doesn't want to know that their time they've been waiting and their time is right just close it's right around the corner just keep pushing something's going to happen and that happens guys remember i started off in this type of ministry in in a charismatic pentecostal background and that was kind of the the the the gameplay now did everyone know that some of these things were kind of done i don't know just kind of as a course of business and a lot of folks didn't you know they weren't necessarily taught that but they were just shown that well this is what this is what this person does this is what if if profit x yz did this then the next profit is going to do that because he saw how he behaved and the next profit the next profit all of them none of them are profits by the way but they're calling themselves that and we all can and again if these prophecies don't come to come to fruition then it's not the profit's fault it is whose fault yours what's this in the beginning god will allow you to move ritualistically because you're learning and in the other days the gospel of god says you have to trust me so now here's where in the training where you take the the cue card away the the list of questions and now do it on your own and he's going to ask i don't know if i have this part in here but he's going to ask her which part is your favorite part of all the 12 10 or 12 things that she read off which ones were the things that either she remembered or the or the things to say to someone that she liked now remember these are things that you were going to say to somebody which begs the question why would a prophet need to be told what to say why now we're going to talk about what a prophet is again we just talked about this earlier in the week but why would a prophet need to be told what to say or how to say it remember a prophet is someone who speaks for the lord so but in this case though back to the training she is going to have to now pick the one that she either remembered or or was her favorite and then you'll basically get good at that one as you remember the other ones the other things that you can say the other nice phrases because how come in this list of prophecies in these list of things that you're supposed to say none of these things that are said are negative none of these things have anything to do with the bible right it none of these things are pointing someone back to back to the word of god to the scriptures and none of these things are declaring any kind of warnings or anything like that but these are all nice things flattering words and we'll get to that in just a second now i use that word flattering for a reason you got this but you're gonna start off with the one you remember because this is why i'm doing this because the one that you remember is the one that god's going to use the most and that will be your signature from now on the comforter is telling me about you remember to throw my name our comforter spoke to me about you apostle bagani thus said the lord apostle bagani i hear the lord saying apostle bagani the spirit of the lord came to me in a dream about you apostle bagani i've had a dream with you in it apostle bagani the lord is speaking to me about you keep going the spirit of the lord says to me about you apostle bagani keep going repeat it again what you remember go back to the comforter okay now walk around me a prophesy keep saying the same thing walk around me walk around me keep saying so let's make this personal let's go ahead as he says move around me because when you do these things you want to get close in person you want to move it remember you need to involve the census and so if i'm just standing there face to face in here and it's after a while it kind of become boring or stale even though you're talking about me but if you move this is why on on tv you'll have all these different camera angles i told you i think yesterday that people have said cord why don't you get another camera angle why it's just me it's just literally me and this screen who knows i might do because it does help to keep your attention so if the camera is panning or moving if you show different shots if there's a jump cut or something like that that helps with the the attention span right to get your eyes and your brain fired up but if the if the if the person moves now this ear is filling it's almost like you're in a real conversation and then what do you do you also touch the person you touch someone in the middle of a conversation you lean forward you nod what do they do they lean forward now you smile they smile you look at them they look at you you look away they look away and so these are some of the tricks i don't know why i can give away the tricks for the trade as far as sales are concerned now but those are some of the things and so what he's doing is kind of part of that thank the lord speaking to my heart about you come on come on come on keep going come on i've had a vision about you yes scripture and the Lord reminded me of you about my shirt what about my shirt the color of the shirt what about it come on come on now this part is important because we're going to look at another clip in just a little bit as far as you start picking and choosing certain things that you see with them right now have you all sometimes we will and we try to we try to look for spiritual things this is why i say there's even a danger into how we read the scriptures when we're looking for something when we're just when we open up the scriptures and we allegorize or spiritualize spiritualize the text and just go in looking for something we can find ourselves in a problem we can find ourselves going somewhere where the bible never intended us to go now are there some things that aren't always on the surface in the bible at first glance yes there are but to go and allegorize a text that's when we have a problem and to allegorize or spiritualize a moment we do that for example we do this all the time as a matter of fact let's say i've got on red uh blue jeans blue jeans blue and a red shirt and some black shoes black shoes blue jeans and a red shirt and then you come in with black shoes blue jeans or blue pants and a red shirt and then wow i don't know what the lord was the wow right now there are only a few colors in the world anyway black blue and red are common but we'll take something that's just so mundane or just regular and make it into into something else and so what's happening here here is talk about the shirt talk about the shirt you're gonna see this issue in a second and because this this guy's isn't the part that bothered me the most believe it or not this right here is not the part that bothered me the most it really isn't uh i'll show you in a second but let's talk about what i see oh girl your hair oh man i love those the lord except that's what's happening here now this went from and i see some of you saying you know this is uncomfortable watch it should be but keep watching you need to know how this thing works out because remember i bring up other people other folks who brought up other people um such as the uh the uh the young girl and now i guess her husband's doing now what's her name uh camille something uh the guy uh jaylon wilson troy marcus this is this it's not a new play that they're running it's the same play it just it just keeps scoring touchdowns for them it keeps it keeps winning for them okay yeah you guys over here are heckling and booing and throwing rocks there's a whole lot of other people over here that are singing and so we need you we need as many people as possible to see this and to also call it out it's not just enough for me or someone else a few other people to call us to see it and to call it out all of you folks that are watching this all the folks that will ever watch this let's somebody that's the playbook that's the playbook and then we see that and let's let's compare this with what the bible said how it happens in the bible let's do that so i want you all to see this so now this is this was role-playing but now let's go ahead and make this into more more than what it really is and let's go ahead and let's anoint this young lady and because you have moved beyond the realm of fear into the realm of faith god says from this day forward you will walk in the bonus of the holy spirit and you will open your mouth and you will prophesy my word says the spirit as you sit on the floor i'm sorry i've got the microphone i'm the microphone muted um but this is part for the course but there's something that's getting to happen that is a little bit more troublesome a little bit more bothersome um because you can start feeling yourself you can start feeling a certain way people are clapping cheering shouting for because you are the you are the marquee and so people are seeing you and you you you feel good about it you you're like yeah yeah yeah and so you inadvertently or maybe intentionally say something say something and people are like now they don't catch it they don't catch it but i want to see if you catch it okay listen to what he's getting ready to say and see if you catch it he's harkening to a passage in luke seven with mary uh and the oil and jesus and catch what he says floor like mary before my presence i'm going to pour this oil over your head my word says the spirit as you sit on the floor like mary before my presence i'm going to pour this oil in the spirit and you will open your mouth and you will prophesy my word says the spirit as you sit on the floor like mary before my presence i'm going to pour this oil over your head and god says i'm going to go down and up the bloodline and suffer the generational curses on your family and god says so your family might be dysfunctional your family might be stuck god says i am starting a brand new lineage with you says the smooth of the most high god so one you can't start a new lineage but that wasn't it said before my presence and it's kind of conjuring up what happened with mary and of course now the oil wasn't poured on mary but it was on jesus but uh but again that part was was a bit troubling that was troubling um i said okay fine fine let me go ahead i've got other things that i'm that i'm on right now but this next clip that's the one that's like okay and this is more of the this is more along even in more in-depth into the playbook this might even be the same night because then he's wearing the same shirt i think but this is talking about using props okay this is taking items and making these things a part of your your tactics yourself okay so let's let's listen to this what are prophetic props are items that god uses to convey a message that you can use to give the word of the lord right let me give you an example prophet angel stand right here in front of the people what's this prophetic props is be able to recognize something and use it as a prophetic word his shirt says nautica nautica means nautica it means guidance on the sea so i can easily say in this season angel the spirit of the lord said i'm gonna guide you into uncharted territories and the wind of the lord is going to carry you into territories that you don't know and god says keep your hand on the steer the ship won't go down says the spirit of the lord okay so you see what he's saying you see what's happening he's taking this the word nautica that has no biblical no scriptural basis whatsoever and let's make it into something spiritual let's make it into something biblical something godly and for those people that are just looking to suck it up those people that are just looking for something anything to those that now it should never be that those that are supposed to be trained those that are supposed to be um studying the word that they would have a problem with this that they should never be fooled by this but they are sometimes because they're looking for something but then let's just be honest um christianity even those that are actual christians it's still full of people who don't study their word it's still full of people who are more immature than mature christian okay and so he's taking this word nautica and going to make it into something that it isn't and if you know biblical numerology you can go right into one nine eight and three did you catch it number one means wholeness number nine means the holy spirit number eight means new beginnings number three means father son the holy spirit and the spirit of the lord says that i'm going to while you're following and trusting and obeying me god says i'm going to mature you and make you whole in areas that are deficient and it's going to be the holy spirit that's going to move and when he moves you're going to enter into a new beginning says the spirit of god and the spirit of god says don't tell because it's the father son of the holy spirit doing it let's see that as we learn the lord so that's the part that was for me just for me you may have had more problems with the other and i had problems with the others but this and this is what people do people take i've seen this countless times over and over i've just never seen anyone decide to put it on tape and to you know but this is him putting on on his channel what's happening there there's a few other videos also but i don't want to pull all the stuff on there but that's just listen that is not biblical that's not biblical at all now let me pull up some scriptures because i want i want those who hadn't i'm heard we talked about this before i want you all to see this number one y'all y'all heard the passage before it brought out in Deuteronomy 1820 where it says that but the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that i have not commanded him to speak or who speaks in the name of other gods that same prophet shall die now remember he's he's he's equating the ones that speak falsely on behalf of god with someone who's speaking by on behalf of some other god if you're speaking for bail if you're speaking for Allah if you're speaking for buddha or whomever same category as you speaking for god and god didn't tell you to okay which is why we have the bible we don't need to try to speak for god we can just say what as we say does say at the lord right now you need to understand though what a prophet is a prophet the word for a prophet to be or if i want to have prophesied or they prophesied this passage which is they prophesied the word literally means it literally means to utter to inform in this case to speak on behalf and so if you are and and by the way most prophecy in the bible was not a foretelling prophecy there's two types of prophecies foretelling meaning i'm saying what is going to happen in the future or foretelling i'm speaking in the indicative this is a fact this was happening now this is what the lord says this is what it is all right the biblical way of saying it is what it is right so that is what a prophet what prophecy is nebu which is to inform to open i mean to declare to reveal god's word or what god is or giving a revelation from god so now if you do so whether it's in the future or if you say if you say and this is the danger this is the danger when you say the lord is telling me something about the shirt that you're wearing and he does not then that applies to you if you tell someone that the lord wants to bless you and maybe the lord the lord isn't trying to bless everybody and you say the lord is you are and you put his name in it now we've got a problem y'all have heard people say you should not take the lord's name in vain and we say if someone says gd or oh my god guys let me just help you out that is not what that is not what that's not what the bible meant that's not what that that's not what that means okay now am i saying we should be able to say gd or you know that's what i'm saying but those that that wasn't even thought of when it was put out taking the lord's name in vain is assuming that god is sending you or saying what you're saying that god is behind what you're saying or you're saying that i'm a believer and i'm not that i'm that i'm standing here on the power on the basis of god and you're not that is taking the lord's name in vain that's why i think about that's why that's a serious command that that's why that's that commandment is there okay and when you tell someone to say this as the lord is telling you to now you got this person under judgment potentially that's what's happening and so you can't you cannot tell someone let's tell the lord said it tell and you're serious about it not role-playing but now you're serious about it that's the part that will that will get us in trouble okay that's what the word means what they're doing is what he's doing and other folks have done it is they've talked about you know say these nice words about people well i'm gonna pull up a couple of a couple passages that talk about this Proverbs 26 28 read this along with me guys it says a lying tongue hates its victims well when you have a false prophecy when you say something that god didn't say that's a lie that's a lie and so a lying tongue now you can't say you love a person and you're saying that god didn't you're saying god said this and god didn't okay that's a lie and you cannot say you love that person if you do that but what he says and a flattering mouth or flattering tongue works ruin so in order to get this sale over this s e this s a l e in order to get this sale over to close a sale i've got to say some flattering words this is just for the ladies in the audience you don't know the guys also have you ever started off a relationship when there were some flattering words and by the time the relationship was over where they're you cussing each other out that guy he was so smooth and this and that and but he had some nice flattering words right which is why you know daughters need a need a father around so that when he starts to spit that little game the daddy can say mountain knock every two things in your mouth that he said again you're not gonna fool yeah come flatter me um i would tell i the guy that has to talk to my daughter you have to come flatter me come flatter me because i know what what wolves do you guys know how we should do we'll tell her all the nice things will touch on her arm you're so pretty wow you are so i love the way you i love your hair she got she ain't got no hair she got much she got the same amount of hair i got and i'm telling her i love her hair i love just the way your eyes are oh yeah i love the sound of your voice and then by the time you're through with very i can't stand it sound like a cackling hand we do that we say things flattering words to get our point across because we don't really care about the person we we care about what we can get from the person and so when you when you bring about bad doctrine what does the bible say about bad doctrine and when we use bad doctrine that causes division look what he brings up in that roman 16 17 i appeal to your brothers to watch out for those who cause division now these those folks who cause division look what he's speaking about he's speaking about this those that cause division in regards to doctrine look what he says who caused divisions and create obstacles contrary to the doctrine that is a teaching that you have been taught he says avoid them then he says for such persons do not serve our lord jesus christ or lord christ but their own appetite by what by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the who of the naive by smooth talk and flattery they deceive the hearts of the naive and he's speaking about doctrine people don't like to hear us talk about doctrine or theology but that's what the bible basically is it's a book of doctrine it's a book of it's it's a study of god it's god giving us himself it's like it's like interviewing or trying to figure out what god is like and he's telling us and so this whole point is is about doctrine and he's speaking about people who who who who who who cause division in bad doctrine and they do so by smooth talk and flattery words to the naive now i don't think a person someone asks this question before i didn't i didn't flesh this out at the time that he came on because my thought was this i was trying and i still mean this guys i still mean this i still mean that i i want to tell you what i what i disagree with i want to tell you where i'm wrong i mean where uh where i i agree where i disagree you can tell me where you're right i mean where i'm right and where i'm wrong and so when he came on i did not want to kind of go over all of this i didn't want to hash stuff out because we talked about before that i had a conversation about the deliverance minister with someone else but he wanted to just okay we disagree here's here's a few points on why we disagree but let's see if we can disagree and be disagreeable and hopefully that there opens the opportunity to have conversation to you know hey tell me explain this to me because i want to get a better understanding because it could be i'm wrong could be that you thought that you're wrong either way i would like to have a dialogue open and so the next time that he came on we were talking about i forgot what we're talking about but i said this is why i want to be able to ask questions and i asked him i said listen you have the ability to let me talk with you with isaac south of r with uh my signorelli and with blad sabcha all four of you get together from time to time place me in the middle and i would like to talk to all four of you at the same time and i let's just go over the scriptures and maybe maybe the four of you can can convince me or i can ask you questions the bible says always be ready to give an answer or defense of the person or someone will ask you if i hope this in you and so let's do so let's do what first peter tells the first Peter 315 tells us but people foreclose that door and maybe because they don't want their doctrine exposed i don't think that that any of them would be able to hold up to sound doctrine or someone like a david uh was david digga hinderson the government counter tv would not be able to hold up we will go to the scriptures this word means that this word means that now let's see why do you say this where are the examples and what you'll find oftentimes they go outside of the bible to tell us about the bible well we're not we won't do that we're not going to allow some outside that's not even biblical not even extra biblical it was not even biblical to tell us about how we should conduct things in the bible like being slain in the spirit and so forth or meditations and so forth which they have done and so uh but one of the questions that came up was about when someone asked you or someone asked about charging for these like the school the prophets okay they said why charge 99 99 for deliverance course we are delivered when we place our his point is why why charge the uh the money for the course very simple i'm going to use this again and and number one i did not receive my schooling for free i didn't let me see my schooling for free i had to pay for my dissertation um and all of my bachelors and all of that um so um i don't do schooling for free that's that's the prerequisite of the durian prince or whatever i freely receive is what i freely give i didn't receive my training freely i had to pay a lot of thousands of dollars well i'm preaching to the choir all of you have paid for all of your schooling in most seminaries and colleges whatever you know that's just that's it like there's no no way around it i don't have to argue it you know like i don't charge for deliverance i do charge for schooling because i didn't receive my schooling for free and so without giving a lot of pushback because at that moment we were going through question after question after question well the problem that i have is one you can go to seminary bible college would have you uh and they're gonna charge but now get in that was your choice but i i get it i get it you went to school um and you paid some money for it but uh i don't think they were telling you to go out and to turn around and then charge for something or imparting a gift but that's fine also if you want to also open if you go to seminary and then you start your own bible college or your own seminary and you charge both okay fine the problem is going to be those still uh if we're going to do this if we're going to charge someone to give them the bible to teach them the bible then we have to give them the bible we have to teach them what the bible says okay and we cannot look to if if it is to be getting a prophet we can't do that let me pull up a passage that i shared just recently is excellent my favorite passage for one of my favorite not a favorite passage but a passage of one of my favorite stories um but this passage about uh ghazi and uh elisha as they were dealing with namen and this was in second king's five fifteen this is after after namen had washed in the jordan seven times and he came back with his i was yawning with the story he came back whole field of leprosy and then let's start in verse 15 he says then he returned to the man of god that is namen he and all his company and he came and stood before him and he said behold i know that there is no god in all the earth but in israel so except now a president from your servant now elisha's response was as the lord lives before whom i stand i will receive none and he urged me to take it back then namen said if not please let me be given some of your servant two mules loaves of earth uh and so this so he can go back and just kind of worship on that ground now let's drop down a little bit and i want you to see what the servant of elisha said ghazi the servant of elisha the man of god says see my master has spared this name in the syrian in not accepting from him from his hand what he bought and look what he says as the lord lives i will run after him to get something now did y'all see the difference namen who is not in leagues with the lord at this moment he says as the lord lives he makes a declaration a promise swear i swear to god i'm gonna go and get some of that money notice what he says as the lord lives but then we'll put up again verse 20 he says right here as the lord lives um i will run after and get something as the lord lives but look what elisha says elisha's his was different elisha says in verse um 16 he says as the lord lives whom i stand who before whom i stand some verses may say whom i serve so one says as the as the lord lives i promise to god i swear to god the other says i promise to god the one who i serve who i live who i stand for y'all see the difference and so the one who was serving the lord was not after any sort of money was not after any sort of material gain but the other one was and it just so happened that the one who was after material gain was not serving the lord was not interested in serving the lord and so i think that is a vital point to bring out we don't have to con people we don't have to act in ways that are that uh that is that is lacking of integrity to get something from the lord we don't have to make up things we don't have to say sweet flattery things to to get someone to buy into what we're doing no no i don't want to give you a prophecy if the lord didn't tell me dude if the lord hadn't placed on my heart to tell you anything and now that's assuming that he did that is assuming that the lord did tell you something but let's say you feel like the lord did if you feel like anyone out there if you feel like the lord has placed it on your heart to say something you better be careful if you're gonna say if you're gonna invoke the lord's name if you're gonna say god told me now there's ways to do it so i just feel impressed um to tell you that i think what you're doing is wrong that can be stated and and you're not saying the lord told me you can do that you see that someone uh this this this young lady she's she's dating this guy and everyone says and it's like should i be quiet should i just not say anything and you just you just feel bothered you feel like i just really feel like something maybe the lord is just impressing upon me to tell you just to warn you about this guy okay well that's different but if you go to the person the lord told me to tell you well no again again let's put this back on the screen look what he says but the prophet who presumes to speak a word in my name that i had not commanded him to speak what does he say that one shall die okay now we're not going to be the one that's going to kill them and i don't think god has lessened uh his view of someone who presumptively or incorrectly or falsely uses his name uh to say something that he did not intend to say or want now it'd be one thing if you said it you know just you know inadvertently or you know without any malice just out of ignorance but to do so and i'm saying for you to have that young lady for anyone to have some some lady or some guy to say make sure you say say it this way now you're causing someone else to do just that to speak who tell people when they see these things when they see something like this happening that you tell them that's not that's not of god and we've seen we've seen the whole story we've seen how this played out okay so that being said guys um uh be diligent beyond guard love the family enough to warn them of anything that seems like that seems like uh it's it's a wolf even if the person seems themselves to be a wolf go and warn them go and let them know about the tear of the lord let them know that that certain things will not go unpunished amen