 Here we gon' talk, we gon' have fun. We be on fire, we be live lit. Check it, check it, check it. This is the unique house that you see, boy. You see your own number with the lovely, amazing, official, miss, Joe, Mako, what's going on? None of you know my dad walk on. Man, hey man, you know how it go, man. Y'all already know the game, man. We down here in Los Angeles, man. Yo, yo, man, so yeah, we out here in Los Angeles. Stand up, man, listen, man. Make sure you gotta like and subscribe to our channel. Make sure y'all check us out on Patreon. Join the membership on YouTube or something, man, do something extra for your boy. Hey, man, listen, man. Fly like primers in a building, man. Hey, I wanna, first of all, I gotta apologize to you, man. Got to apologize, cause that other big interview was the... You didn't introduce me at all, did you? I did. You came home with you, didn't say nothing? You didn't get in there? I don't remember that. I was talking about you. I said the lovely, amazing, miss, man. You can't, you hear it so much, see. When I never do a good, you hear me? Yeah, when I bring you in there, I bring you in. I don't come in like half cop. I'm deadly with this thing. Okay. About conversation, rules to nation. Absolutely. I got you. You already know. So, let's get back to it, man. So, is there something you'd like to say? No, go ahead. Go ahead. Man, so, man, thank you for coming on the show again, Fly Like Primers, but like I said again, I apologize, because last time we was in Vegas, we did an interview, it was epic. I only got one little piece on you. I got it, but now I'm trying to put the piece together. I only got you talking. Is that right? I lost everything, but I paid money to get it back, but it didn't give me anything, but I got you. I just got to find that audio, then I can put me some little clips out of it, just so you say a certain thing. This coming, I just got to get it done. Yeah. We didn't do a voiceover at all. But thank you so much for coming back on the show, man. Oh, no, I appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, thank you so much, man. You got to talk right up into the mic. The platform is incredible. You like it, man? Oh, absolutely. Man, you had some dope conversations too, man. You know, that's the good thing about it. When you have a bunch of niggas, I mean, newest. She got to cut that out, because YouTube is driven, man. Every little thing you say, they be going in. Yeah, I heard like the first 15 seconds, they're supposed to not monetize the something that you use profanically. They do it in the first minute. That's not true. That's not true. Yeah. They will go through there and do it any time. And I'm a living witness of that. So you just need to really be careful on how you, you know, kind of stuff you say. But to have a good time, man, if you can have a good time, what's the use in doing it? Absolutely. You know, I don't really curse. So if I say this or say that, okay. But I usually, I hear just cursing like that, you know what I'm saying? Right, right, right. So, man, let's get to you, man. From where are you originally from? I'm from here. You from what part? I'm from West LA. West LA, let's see. Who banging over there? Well, you know, you ever sit banging in LA. I'm not from here, but I know what y'all doing. You grew up around this stuff. Oh yeah, absolutely. I mean, you know. It's the culture. It's normal. It's normal, man. And it's like, you know, everything that happens is like you just gotta know how to move. You automatically know how to move when you like, you know, raised in it. It's normal, you know what I mean? So what did you, was you in a crib neighborhood, blood neighborhood, pyro, what was you at? I mean, you know, how we grew up with like, we moved over, you know, I grew up in a single family home. So, you know, we moved around a lot. I got relatives from everywhere. Everywhere. We was more or less into, you know, back then, it's like, you know, we were raised by a single parent. You gotta figure out a way to survive, meaning financially, you know, to get things that people, you know, would have from their parents. You feel what I'm saying? So we was always, you know, about, you know, either sports or trying to get some money. See, I wasn't even thinking about not getting mixed up in the streets. No, we had like little crews and different things like that. But it wasn't like that. I mean, nah. You know, it's like being connected with the little bit of everybody or whatever. You know what I mean? And, you know, friends is different, you know, now. Nowadays, it's like you are from where you grew up at or where you from. It's not necessarily true, you know what I mean? You don't have to be, you could grow up somewhere. That don't mean you're from there. You feel what I'm saying? But that's how people, you know, judge you and portray. Yeah, I actually, like I said, well, I like that because like I said, I'm friends with a lot of people. And just because you're from out here, I bring those subjects up because just because you're from out here don't mean that you necessarily in the lifestyle that everybody else is leading, you know? Absolutely. So I think, and especially the entrepreneur, when you're an entrepreneur, your mind think different quickly. Well, it's way different though. I think like when people pick sides and things like that, they, you know, they won't really have no other option. You feel what I'm saying? So I think like, like you said, it's an entrepreneur. That's a whole different world. It's a whole different world. You know what I mean? And so it's like, you know, real people that get to it and get money, it don't matter where you're from. See, if you subject yourself to be from a certain spot, why only get money in one section? You feel what I'm saying? We can get money with sections or you can get money with just different people to get money. Real people that get money, I mean, they could be from wherever, but none of that means anything when it's about getting some money. You feel what I'm saying? You know, I done seen Crips and Bloods be the best of friends. You feel what I'm saying? All the way down to like the Mexican gangs. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, when it comes to that, I mean, you know, you could be, you know, if you look at blue and red, it makes green, which is money. That's real. You mix those two, you know. You mix those two together? Yeah. That's real, that's real. So, man, just coming up, man, let's get into it. I'll need you to come on in and get with Fly Like Prime and do it the way we do it because, you know, this is first interview, really. Yeah, because nobody saw it. That's right, so let's get him. So growing up in LA, okay, you know, when you think about LA, well, for me, I think about fashion. I think about gang. Coming up in LA, think about fashion. Think about gangs. Think about beaches. That's mainly what you think about when you think about LA. What is your most fondest memory of LA between the ages of, say, under 10? Riding bicycles, just going to the park, playing basketball, sports and things like that. You know, where we didn't think about negative things or nothing like that. We really didn't have bills, but we still have responsibilities. Those are some of the fondest things. Even if you went outside and got to a fight with somebody, you back cool the next day. You're not trying to go blow somebody's head off or something like that since you got into it with them. Not like this generation. You know what I mean? That end up usually becoming your best friend or something like that after a little scuffle. So, you know, things like that, looking forward to going to little house parties when things were safe and things like that. You know, meeting a girl or something across town and you know, things like that. You know, going to the mall and just like through the arcade and just looking, you know. And under 10, what was your dress code looking like? Cause were you always fly even under age 10 or you learned about fashion as you got older? Well, the thing is my mom used to sew. So she used to sew and back then it's like, you know, we used to get creative, you know what I mean? You know, me and my brother and then like the people that we grew up around, they were hustlers. You feel what I'm saying? They was, you know, getting a bag. So, you know, they used to like to dress, you know? So, you know, people like, you know, you know, street guys, you know, you know, hustling, you know, pushing weight and doing different things like that. They used to give money in dress, you know? So that's the kind of era I came from. It wasn't really the, you know, the white T-shirts and all of that. There's nothing wrong with that, but you know, getting, getting fly, getting fresh, but you know, you would look at them and be like, damn, that's the closest thing to looking at like one of your favorite rap stars or something like that when they get dressed. So you would be inspired, you know, they drive nice cars and things like that. You know what I mean? Getting the money from the streets. So those are the things that you really inspired to be. And it all has a lot to do with fashion as well. You know, just fashion forward. But it came from your mom as well. So you say, your mom used to sew. She used to dress. Right. So that's where it came from. Absolutely. You know, my dad, he, he, my dad was a businessman, but he's a, he's a fly dresser too. Did she teach you how to sew? No, my mom, she didn't teach me how to sew. But what I did used to do is like take some of her, like old like designer stuff, like Louis purses and, you know, Gucci purses and cut them up and just like make pockets and just do different things and hand something that I might add like something that was not a name brand. And you know, people, yeah. I was the hell of young with that. I would drop it off to like a, to a tailor or something like that and how I'm sewing. I would cut it out and how I'm sewing. Why would you say to tailor when your mom sew? Like, her mom, can you make this? Because sometimes she would, but sometimes she wouldn't. I was just like, you know, she'll give me the purse. What you gonna do with that? And I was just keeping figuring it out. I didn't always like to tell people my sauce. I always liked to show people, you know, that's just how I did it. And then the prime comes from when I was playing football, you know, I was inspired by Deion Sanders. So, you know, I just played the same position and just come through at the end of the day, you know, when I play football. Have you ever met him? Yes, I've actually, his son was one of my clients, actually, and I did some cutting-saw for him and some business for him. And I was actually able to talk to Deion as well as dad, you know, so that was just, you know, that was just, you know, it just worked out like that. But yeah. So you already knew at a young age that this was the business you were gonna come up into fashion? Um, well, you know, the thing is, I know you said you did football, so it was so you wanted that football scholarship and all that. Honestly, it was music and then fashion. You feel what I'm saying? Because I figured that I would leverage the music to be able to do fashion. Oh, okay. But it actually worked the other way around, exactly. Yeah. You know, I mean, it all worked hand in hand, but it just, that's the way it ended up working out. You feel what I'm saying? I mean, you own this music, you got some new bangles out, I just shared one the other day. Yeah, I appreciate that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I seen you when it had something to do with a boss or something, didn't it? Yeah. What was the name of it? It was called Benner Boss. Benner Boss. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, Benner, I had to share that thing. You know what I'm saying? That boy said you Benner Boss, man. Yeah. So what inspired that and how did you come up with it? Like, you know, in this day and age, you know, music, a lot of people, I just was saying, $4,200 for a million streams is not a lot. You have to have a collective brand and know how to strategize to make the money off the music. It ain't like it was back in the days. Right, right. So how do you come up with what you're gonna do and what is the plan? What is the mission? Oh, the platform is pretty much what she, so I utilized my fashion platform to leverage my music. You feel what I'm saying? Because it's been times that where, you know, me and my brother would, you know, we would always do music. I would always do music too. But I would just, you know, we would always get other artists, you know, different things like that. And that's what they only did. And we would invest in them and push them. But what we noticed is that when you help somebody else out sometimes, it's like what they do the same for themselves. So you need somebody with a certain drive and a hustle. And it's like, if I don't know nothing else, I could hustle myself. I could battle myself, you know, and then you win, you know what I mean? That's what I've noticed. You know, and I spent a lot of money on different artists and helped them elevate. And they usually leave you where they want to do things a different way and things like that. Because at the end of the day, you can't make them want what you know, what you want for them. And if they don't want what they, if they, the thing is, it's like, if they don't want what you want for them, it's like, you know, what's the purpose? It's pointless. They're wasting time and they're wasting money. They're not utilizing the platform correctly. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, you put yourself in position. It's like, the platform is laid out. Should we looking for a quarterback? But it's like, sure, let me grab the ball. You know what I mean? It's like, I can battle myself. And then I know what I'm doing. This is because it's like, you know, everything, you know, comes together. You feel what I'm saying? If you notice that like the music platform and the fashion platform is totally separate. You feel what I'm saying? And neither one depends on the other. You know, so, so the thing is, they do come, come, come, you know, bridging instead of a photo shoot, they got a video shoot. You feel what I'm saying? I'm promoting the music, the clothes. Instead of, you know, my clothing brand. I don't, I don't get people asking for free stuff. Oh, I got an artist, man. Give my artist something. He gon' turn it up. He gon' make it look good. No, that's not gonna turn into money. You know what I mean? Since your artist is wearing that, you know, wearing my brand or whatever, they should be going to buy it out the store. You know, they'll always want something for free. You know what I mean? You know, put some work and some sweat into it. You feel what I'm saying? You know, support. If you want to support, support. You feel what I'm saying? The music is just an extra thing that's like, okay. You know, I can do this. And I know what I'm doing with it. So it's like, it's not just telling you it's about actually putting it out there, showing you. You feel what I'm saying? You know, you gotta move in silence. You know what I mean? You know, I'll stay in the tunnel. Self-awareness is so important. I'm just listening that you talk, understanding you and understanding where you're going with something that's very detrimental in order to be happy on a whole. For you to express it like that you know where you hid it and you've already, you've come to grips of how you're going to do it. And that's important. And I think that starts with self-awareness. Yeah, absolutely. You see what I'm saying? Absolutely. Because you gotta know what you want. Absolutely. In order to be great in anything. Yeah. Yeah. Am I right? No, true. True. How important is God and family with you, man? I mean, it's everything. You know, you gotta understand like, you know, family is a backboard support system. You feel what I'm saying? You know, it's like, you know, some people come and go. You know, family is there. You feel what I'm saying? You know, I don't have a big family. I got a small family, you know what I mean? And it's like, I don't have no kids, but you know, my kids are my business, my music. You know what I mean? It's like I'm just, you know, different steps. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, you know, I'm able to create different, like, you know, different items and different, do different projects and explore certain things and put it all together. And at the end of the day, I'm able to do create my own way and create my own lane because you gotta understand everything that I've done, I did it with no help. You know what I'm saying? That's it, that's it. That's me, that's me. Very big. And make a way out of no way. Make a way out of no way. So that's what keeps me motivated. So entrepreneurship, man, like I said, it's something that, it's a new, it's a wave that, it's a good looking wave too. People, it's a lot of different people who say we entrepreneurs, sometimes you can be a successful or unsuccessful entrepreneur. Let's talk about it, you know what I'm saying? Everybody on the internet say they are entrepreneurs. You know, everybody's saying they got a brand. Everybody got a brand. I don't care who it is, you call anybody. Yeah, I got a brand, you can go on your Instagram. Models even got jobs who don't even get booked for shows. Just brands here, brands there. Is this stuff real? No, I plan. Well, no, here's the thing, man, social media, social media is exactly what it is, man. You know, somebody could just wake up in the morning, sit in their model or whatever the case may be, living on their homegirl's couch. You feel what I'm saying? And be in fantasy world. You know, they think they can start only fans or whatever, and they can make millions of dollars. Only it's a handful of people that get that. But see the thing is being original about whatever you do. And if that's what you choose to do, I don't knock it, but what it does is make people a lot lazy too, though. It makes people lazy and then they understand they don't have those certain qualities. And you know, and the thing is people can call themselves an entrepreneur, but they need to know the full definition of being an entrepreneur. Because half of these people are self-employed, not even self-employed. You know, they might make, if you know, if you're self-employed and some people don't know the difference between being self-employed and being a business owner. You feel what I'm saying? When you're self-employed, if you're not there, your business, if you're not there, should your business not go operate? You know, if you're a business owner, you can stay in the house until the afternoon and your business is still operating. The money's still coming in. You feel what I'm saying? I feel you. And so, I mean, if you grab half of these people off of social media, like a handful of them, and they claiming that they're entrepreneurs, see if they stay in the bed or see if they just took off and then do none of their daily duties with their business operate, with their get money. You feel what I'm saying? The key is financial freedom for me. That's the key. That's all I chase is financial freedom. I don't care about nothing else. You know what I mean? Besides family, health and wealth, you feel what I'm saying? You know, so, you know, if it ain't about financial freedom, or about us building, doing some business, and that's gonna be mutually beneficial, there's no conversation for me. Let me ask you this though. You're one of those guys, man, that you understand the city, you understand the music, man. Who popped in when they come down to the artists, the new artists, the whole artists? What's going on in the city outside of Fly Like Prime? Like, what's the one like, you like that guy right there, got it going right now? From L.A., or? From L.A. From the West. Well, the thing is, is L.A., it's just a lot of, I mean, you know, L.A. is real segregated. You know what I mean? It's like, unfortunately, we have radio stations, but they don't just support strictly the West Coast. I think that's everywhere now. So it's kinda hard. You can say that guy, you can go on, but you see, yeah. That's what I'm saying. You can go on. It's different outlets, so it's like, you know, it's wide open, you know what I mean? It's like, what people listen to, they listen to the old artists, they listen to the artists with the machine behind it, of course, you feel what I'm saying? But I'm listening, I'm learning now that people find different ways to, like this generation now, they'll listen to SoundCloud to discover new music, you know what I mean? Some people will listen to like TikTok, but that doesn't necessarily create a superstar artist. You know what I mean? He might create a jingle or something like that, but you know, that might have been the only first record that they recorded. You feel what I'm saying? And they don't have no longevity maybe because they don't have no experience like that. It's just got lucky with one record. So it's like, if you look at it, I got a friend named, that's popping out here, my boy Zo Osama. I got the record with running up that's on satellite with him. And he's popping, popping, right? He's like that guy, guy, consistent, you know, out here. And then I got the group project, The Fly Dallas. So that's something that could be refreshing, give you, you know what I mean? Talk about real topics and subject matters. You see what I'm saying? How hard was it? Like, okay, you see a lot of these rappers are coming up dead. Well, when Mode 3 died in Dallas, I could tell the music that shifted, it changed the music game for me. Yeah. When Nipsey passed away out here, y'all had so many different people do music though. How was it, did the music go quiet or was it still, you know, running up? Or just how was the temperature? When you look at artists that passed away from out here, you've had Drake Yeo, you had, there's been some, a bunch of them. Drake Yeo kind of, you know, he wasn't on the level of Nipsey, but just artists keep dying. How does that affect the music and just the flow of things in the city? A lot, man, you know, when things like that happen, I mean, it channels onto the negativity and it just puts artists in the box to where, you know, people will not really support or really give somebody a push and get behind something because, you know, what I would say, people are scared to create other, you know, other artists, powerful artists like that again. So the same thing can happen. So people are scared to put their money behind different things like that and we scare the money away. You know, it does things like you can't get venues to perform. You can't like book clubs and shows and different things like that. It might be a liability. So you gotta look at that. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, we can go through these different things. It's like, you know, it's like, damn, you know, I don't know if I'm gonna be safe if I go there. You know, it's a flex to get back home these days. Yeah, yeah. You feel what I'm saying? So those are the things you gotta think about. I'm like, I can't go in. It's favorite artists. I'm not gonna send my kid down there. You know, I gotta send him with security. You feel what I'm saying? Just different things like that. You know, so those are the negative things. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, I can't even go to Roscoe's no more. You feel what I'm saying? I can't go get no chicken and waffles. You want the Uber Eats that. We're gonna have to have somebody bring that to us. That's what I said. You feel what I'm saying? No, that's what I said. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's just bad. It makes you be like, I'll just go in that route. You know, it can happen anywhere at any time. Absolutely. It's just the stigma that it gives to outsiders that come in the town. Yeah, if you in there eating or whatever, you're gonna be thinking about some negative the whole time. You feel what I'm saying? You'll be looking over your shoulder and you don't know. If you go in and you up, you know. That's what it is. You know, you're walking in. You don't know the area. You don't know who's been hanging out, waiting on the next tourist to come through. You're gonna go in there and take your jewelry off. Everything. I'm definitely doing that. Sweatsuits, nothing, everything. It's just what it is. But you know, that brings up another subject. You know, I've had guys on here that say that if a PMB were to check in, he probably would still be alive. Is that a real thing? No, no, not at all. Like with him, he had places out here. He was living out here. That's what I said. Didn't I say that? I probably wasn't even his first time eating over there, but I understand his mentality because he probably felt like, you know, something like if somebody really wants something that bad and really willing to either die or go to prison for the rest of their life, let them handle their business then if that they feel it's worth it like that. So I kind of get the mentality. You feel them saying, oh, if he really thinks it's worth it, go ahead, do what you need to do. So how careful are you when you're making these moves? You don't go jumbo it out. When you do, if you do, you know you ready for whatever. I see that's the problem right there, bro. Let me just keep it a thousand with you. I've been out in the streets for a long time, right? Long time. I never even thought about occurred to somebody trying to take something from me or rob me. You feel what I'm saying? Because, you know, I know a lot of people I'm dialed in. You feel what I'm saying? It's because if something was to happen, I would know where it came from or it wouldn't benefit nobody to do things like that. So I was just telling somebody, it's like, you know, back in the day when we used to go to the club, everybody know everybody. So everybody got the jewelry on. That's just what it is. Nobody had to worry about it. Women, guys, whatever you had to worry about, none of that. You know, if somebody, it's a special type of goon or somebody that you would have to be in their area in their neighborhood that's gonna rob you. They're not gonna drive to Hollywood and sit out in front of the club and try to rob you. They're ready to go to jail or ready to die or something like that if they doing something like that. This didn't happen, but it's just not, it's not a regular thing because people wouldn't take from people like that. You feel what I'm saying? Because it's just, that's not what they're thinking about, not the goal. Now, if you, you know what I mean? People would have a bunch of money on them. You're not worried about that. People would be worried about what they need to be doing for themselves. You know, so now the thing is, what I think, what happens is when you see these things happening on the news and things like that, people think that they can go do the same thing and duplicate it. Don't see no consequences, especially when there's COVID here, I got the mask on, I'm not gonna get caught. I was like, dummy. No, they're gonna look at your phone. You know what I mean? They're gonna pull up the tower and they're gonna see where you at. Don't think for one second, you're not being controlled. They're gonna pull up the GPS in your car or whatever cars was in that area. It's just about a matter of when they get to it. You feel them saying they're probably shorthanding on staff or whatever, but if it's a priority, they're gonna get to it. They're gonna catch everybody. Wow. You feel them saying it's just high go. You feel them saying so, you know? Well, I just, like I said, when I look at these different scenarios and situations with all these, it's sad about all the fallen rappers and the people who trying to do something in a way to where it could bring, you know, change the family's life if it ever jumped out for them. Everybody's not, every rapper's not gonna make it, okay? Not at all. Now, I can't say that either, because if you make it in a way to where you know this is where you at with and you just love doing it, that's different. You got a lot of guys out here, they fake an emotion, they trying to live it up, they trying to act as if they got it when they don't. It's hard trying to keep up their status. It's just a hell of a grind when you're dealing with a rap and the way it's built up right now. I think, you know, it's not something to play with. A lot of kids, I don't even know, I think I interviewed Rainwater and he was like, this woman came to me talking about her son, you wanna be a rapper? I'm like, why? Yeah, why? It's the dangerous job of the world. I mean, you gotta stand, like for me, I don't like golf, you know what I mean? And it's like, you know, it's like, you know, I've been doing the before the fashion, so it's like, it's just something that, you know, that I do. And plus it's like, I believe that I can drop some substance, you know, and I believe that I can, I know what I can do and what I've been doing. It's just about a matter of me, you know, pushing play, putting it out there. And it's like, you know, I'm able to distribute my own music and work my own platform. See, you know, like when I come in from the area where you make a couple of songs and you need somebody else to manufacture, you know, do distribution, you need to go get a deal from somebody, you need somebody to say, yeah, I like that record, man, I'm gonna call you back in a couple months. And then you never do nothing with that record because you don't have no outlet, you don't have no way to let somebody hear it. You feel what I'm saying? It's a fair game. I push the button as much as, you know what I mean? Keep putting them out, keep putting them out, putting them out, putting them out. You feel what I'm saying? So it's like, you know, it's just like close. You feel what I'm saying? You know, fashion is like, you know, being a hustler is a hustler, period. By the line, you can hustle anything. You know, I could sell water if I made some water. You feel what I'm saying? So, you know, that's just the mentality. But it's like, I'm gonna do everything. You feel what I'm saying? It's like, you know. Yeah, do you, like, do you feel like, how do you feel like the economy is doing? We've been seeing some people that's in a scare. Some people are not, you know, they're laying people off on job. Google A, it's off 11,000. What was the other one that I had with it? Shoot, eggs are like $25. That's here, they're 50 here. They was 25 in Texas, 25 and 30. For two and a half dozen. Two and a half dozen eggs, you know? Yeah. So things is going up now. Yeah, absolutely. But what's the other thing is like, see, like for me, from like my position, it's like, you don't do nothing, but like, you know, put your boots on, man. But it's like, you know, for anybody, it's like, if you got a job, you need to be, why you working? If somebody has a job, my advice, you need to be trying to figure out to work on you. You feel what I'm saying? Don't focus on that job, focus on you. Focus on how you can make an income to whatever you doing working for somebody without working for somebody. You feel what I'm saying? Use that as time to get it together and utilize your job as a hustle, not a retirement plan. You feel what I'm saying? So it's for an entrepreneur to have more than one hustle. You feel what I'm saying? I got four or five of them. You feel what I'm saying? If one of them don't work, I'm gonna disconnect it and add something else to it. So I'm gonna keep my, you know, I'm gonna stay on the pivot. So it's like, when we look at the recession and things, yeah, we feel it. I feel it in different places and different things, but, you know, it's sure. Being an entrepreneur, you know, y'all were starting up different businesses. What's the lifespan you give a business to really try to work? Before you say, you know what? Let me cut losses and keep it moving. It's about a year and a half. Really? You know, maybe sooner than that. You just gotta forecast it. But you gotta go in there with a business plan though. You feel what I'm saying? You gotta just, like, you know, you spending, you gotta see, well, you gotta be realistic. Sometimes things can take a turn. Like these might be things you don't have no control on. You feel what I'm saying? Over, you know? So it's like, me personally, I much rather invest in like three different things at one time instead of just one thing. You feel what I'm saying? And wouldn't it be smart if the three things that you invest in or three different businesses that you start, they all compliment each other? So you don't have to go through, you know, are the middleman to help do this part of your business? Yes and no. Because sometimes you can be investing into the wrong things and if they compliment each other, that means if it starts going bad, that means everything can start going bad. You feel what I'm saying? Now what I recommend for anybody, see, like, what I would, like, my jumpstart has always been learn how to operate and set up a business, doesn't matter what type of business you have. Learn how to establish corporate credit, you know what I mean? Learn how to get a paid X score. Learn how to, you know what I mean? Get some commercial lines of credit and some unsecured lines of credit. Learn how to get a business loan. You know what I mean? Learn how to build some relationships with people down at the bank. You feel what I'm saying? Learn how to keep your credit score good. You know what I mean? Learn how to leverage credit. Learn how to set up a corp, LLC. Learn the difference, you know what I mean? S corp, C corp, you know what I mean? Learn how to daisy chain, meaning setting up DBAs up underneath your corporation. You set up like 10 different DBAs up under your corporation and you got, like, say a $10,000 credit card up on your corporation. You just apply for a same credit card as an authorized user up under the other one. So that means if you got 10 businesses with the $10,000 credit, it's a $100,000 worth of credit. You know, and that's just free game right there. You feel what I'm saying? Things like that. Let's get back over here to the rap. You don't know what I'm saying. I mean, I'm just telling you. So even with the rap, I can tell you the whole thing about the rap, too. No, no, no, I'm about to ask you about the pimp. The pimp, see, I didn't even know you knew it was around the pimp, man. You know so much going on with the rap. I done missed out on it. I'm over here like, what? You knew the pimp? Yeah, man. Yeah, rest in peace, man. So the story is with Pimp C, there's a guy named Rick Martin. Rick Martin was his manager at the time. Rick Martin's brother, Devin Martin went to college with my brother, played football with my brother. You know, so he hooked me up with Rick because Rick was always an executive in the music or whatever. So that's how me and Rick and Rick was always out here on the West Coast. My brother was like way down in Idaho state with his brother. So my brother hooked me up, his brother hooked me up with his brother and he was like, man, your brother, look out for my brother, I'm gonna look out for you. Like your brother, look out for me. So that's how the relationship started. So my brother came back and then it was a guy named Pimp C and we was meeting with the brother, right? And he had a big old giant watch on, man. And then back then me and my brother used to have a 10 freeway shirts. You know what I mean? He used to, you know, the teeny, when we get that from, he's talking to my brother. So they kicked it off immediately. They kicked it off immediately. And it used to hang out and things like that. And then he made the connect with us. He's like, man, I get you to watch, man, for a little nothing. My brother always asked him about to watch. For a little nothing, man. Just bring my stuff, man. Bring my clothes to me, man. Bring my clothes, you know what I mean? And yeah, they used to sit and hang out. And then he hooked my brother up. It was TV Johnny. You know what I mean? He probably was big out there in Houston or whatever. So he hooked him up with TV Johnny was always busy. So we talked to him and hooked up with his brother, Tony. You know what I mean? His brother, Tony. So he used to talk to Tony and it's like, yeah, man, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So we got two watches we had to like, I don't know, I was gonna tell you that's from the corporation. We had a corporation. We had a business account. What is it? A wholesale account. You know, some of my brothers was out in the street heavy. So what we used to do, we set up a wholesale account like credit, credit with TV Johnny. And then we used to get like watches and things and we used to sell them out here on the West coast. You know what I mean? Being my brother to somebody that, you know, the guys that'd be wanting it, he couldn't get to it because it was only out in Houston. You feel what I'm saying? And it was custom when he made the bezel. You feel what I'm saying? There's only certain artists there. You know what I mean? So that's how we was able to obtain, I think, with our lines of credit. We would sell, you know, sell jewelry to other people, you know what I mean? And then we was able to acquire ours or whatever. And yeah, him and my brother, man, that was real sad on what happened to him. Yeah, well, how was the temperature that day when you guys found out? I think my brother, honestly, I think my brother was on his way to go see him, was supposed to see him because it was at the Montreal Hotel. Okay. And my brother was supposed to go meet him and he couldn't get him on the phone or something like that. I think Rick had called my brother, I think, later or the next day and told him what happened. And it was all bad, man. We couldn't believe it, man. We just couldn't believe it because not only was that, not only was he was so close to my brother, he was talking about starting his own label and things like that. I don't know if people knew about that, but he was talking about doing his own thing. You feel what I'm saying? And so my brother, we used to connect in the gap and we was trying to pull me down so we could maybe do some records or something to gather and things like that because that's the way my brother does. He connects the dots, you feel what I'm saying? He's the one, he's the talker. Yeah, that's what he does. You talk to him. Don't talk to him. Don't talk to me, talk to him. That's what he did, you know what I mean? Man, I just appreciate that story, man. I always give me a good pimp story, man. I didn't think I'd get one in LA, but I got one. That was sad. But he was a talented brother, man. Real talented, love to get on that mic, man. Down south, man, he was hard. He was hard, man. But now, man, thank you, man. Top three artists of all time did our lives. Number one. Number one? Off the top, you over there. Tupac. Tupac. Yeah. Any genre. Any genre? Tupac. Yes, any genre. Okay, yeah, I mean, Tupac is one. Number two. Number two? I'm a Jay-Z fan, too. Tupac, Jay-Z. Number three. Number three. Any genre. What's the top three? Do you want to say Diana Ross? I'm just asking. I'm just making one number of that. Go with the rap. Oh, you want me to say it? Okay, all right. No, no, no, no. You trying to go to Charlotte? I'm just saying anything. Any genre. I mean, I'm Big Daddy Kane. I'm a Big Daddy Kane fan. Me, too. You know, I ain't gonna hold you. Big Daddy Kane. You know what I mean? He was on the Vapors, too. Yeah, yeah, with Biz Marquis. You remember that? Yeah. Yeah, we really know what's going on. And don't make me dance. I still remember the dance moves. Do it, let me see. Dun, dun, dun. Yeah, I'll go there, man. Don't do that. You know I got a movie coming out. I forgot to tell you. What? Yeah. You think that's called it? Y'all really shot it? I did, yeah, it's shot. You know, I got, it's a weird story because, you know, I had to be in one of the main characters in the movie. Right, I think I saw you posted it on your picture. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I've never did a movie, but I was supposed to do a movie. I was. It was an action movie, and it was like almost three weeks. We was out in the desert. Did you have to practice, like go to class for it? Yeah, no, let me tell you. So, you know, these people see me on my Instagram and it was like, who's this, he looked like he could play a character. He looked like he one of our characters, right? And they see me, they didn't know I did music. That was on my other page with my brand. And they see me, kind of, he looked like he could play the character. So then, somebody I was following, they was following. It was like, let's see if you could talk to him if he's interested in doing some acting. So they sent me like a. Script? No, not even a script. It was like, like some like paragraph or something. I was supposed to pull out the camera phone and do like a video so they could see how I would do. So I was just sitting there, I was like sitting there or something, you know, and I had to pull out, and I pulled out a real gun on the thing because that's what it said. You know, it didn't say real, but I just pulled it out and like, I was talking to myself or something, like talking to somebody with the, and then I sent, I didn't hear nothing from them. And then like, maybe like two or three weeks later, it's like we're doing a reading. Can you come to the reading? It was like two day notice. And I had some other stuff to play. I was supposed to go out of town and everything. It was like, can you be there at 12 o'clock on Saturday? I was like, yep, you know what I mean? So I never did a reading. I didn't know what there was or nothing like that. I get there and I'm sitting in front of the spot. I get there early, sitting in front all dressed up and it's like, damn, are you sure? I didn't see no cars or nothing. It's 12 o'clock on the dot. I was like, let me go just look at the door. I walked in the doors. I guess it was a back entrance. There was this full of people sitting at a long table wrapped around. And I'm like, you know. And all of them came for the readings. Yeah, it was a Chinese, you know, this is white people. They out doing the readings. No, no, like the directors and the actors, you know, they didn't look like us or nothing like that. You know what I mean? There's a real like, you know what I mean? These people do like horror films and you know, they do none but horror films and like, what else they do? Like, yeah, horror films and like, none but action movies. So I'm like, and it's like, well, and these other, some of these other actors that were sitting there, they were sitting on the other side like down at the end and they all kind of like look like they knew each other. Right. And I was like, this is a little script. Well, you get here, grab the script. I'm looking around and try to understand what's going on. Grab the script. I didn't know nobody. I ain't gonna lie. And I sat down next to like one of the writers or whatever. And it was like, well, who's playing this, this part? And I was like, uh, and I'm thinking one of these other persons, maybe they got me for a backup. That's what I'm thinking. Maybe they got me for a backup. Right. And, no, I was there for that. And I guess these other people said, we're going to read the script. You're going to read this part right here. And I'm like, God, this is a script about like 150 pages. I said, I don't even get this much reading in school. Yeah. I don't know when the last time I read something like this. You know what I mean? Sitting there doing something like this. So anyway, start reading. I didn't know nothing about the script. I never liked it at any of your life. Not at all. I mean, I act, but not like that. You know what I mean? We just got it naturally. You know what I'm saying? I ain't gonna lie to you. So when you went out in the desert, did you impress? No, no, no. So look, I read the thing. We read and he was like, then I started reading, then I started getting more intense into it. And then like, I remember walking and then the director came out and was like, man, can you handle this? So I was like, come on, man, I act every day, man. This is what I do. So let me tell you, let me tell you the play. So then I whipped out my phone. I was like, man, look, I pulled out like one of my videos. He looked, he said, you can dress like that. He seen me doing something. He was, you can dress like that. And then there was like, well, we haven't made our full decision yet. Right? So maybe like two weeks later, I get a contract shot to my email. I said, whoo, right? For real? Yeah, I'm not lying to you. I said, I'm signed. I'm not reading it. I'm doing a blue face right now. I'm not going to read it. I'm signing it. You know what I mean? Not a fine print and nothing. Yeah, right now, I'll send it back. You know what I mean? I'm sorry. I didn't even print it out. I ain't going to lie to you. I see this as money right there. I say, yeah, okay. So I had a budget on that. Hell yeah, I had a budget. Nice budget. Yeah, it was cool. It was cool for me, but you got to understand. I'm doing it, right. Everybody, so everybody now, what I found out is that everybody that was there, when the main character wasn't there, the actors were like real characters that do TV shows and stuff. And it was in like New York and Albuquerque and Colorado and they flew down here for the movie. You was the only one. You know what I'm saying? I'm only like two other locals and some of the extras probably. And I'm like, yeah, I was the only one from LA. I'll tell you that. You know what I mean? And I'm like, what's the name of the movie? It's called Bang Bang Betty. And they got a part two and a part three, too, that they're about to start doing the... And you're in all of them? No, I can't tell you, I'm in all of them. I'm in the first one, which is the, so there's an action movie, so the guy was like, out of 300 people, we picked you after I got that thing. And so I had to memorize like 30 pages of script in three weeks with no experience. I was just trying to figure out that part because it's like, I don't memorize nothing. You know what I mean? I write my songs on the spot and do them on the spot. I learn them after I record them. What's it mean? It was a challenge. I had to take off. I had to take off. I didn't even sit at the office. I would record it like it's a song and listen to it in the car. You feel what I'm saying? And things like that. And then I would go over it. I pulled it off. And I didn't have them waiting either because my guy was like, you know, when they turn that camera on with that big budget, you know, when they turn that camera on, you better be ready. You better be ready else they'll send you home or something like that. Who said that? One of my boys was telling me that. I was like, really? And I was like, the first scene, let me tell you the first scene, I'm in there with my underwear. That's all I can tell you. He was like, the director called me, so you're gonna come down and you're gonna jump in your underwear as soon as you get here. And I was like, it was a bedroom scene, you know? So I was like, oh, okay, I gotta, you know, and I pulled it off. You know what I mean? So the character, how much of the character wasn't you? I percentage wise, like, was the character mainly you? No, I mean, for the movie, I'm in the movie to hold all the way through until the end, I didn't even realize that I was like one of the main characters until I'm like, I got all these scripts. I got to shoot this, this, this. Sometimes I would shoot like nine scenes in a day. You know what I mean? And it was action. They had the stunt coordinators and all that there. They had to show me how to, you know, do some karate and all kinds of stuff. You know, it was crazy. Like, you know, somebody beating up on you and you know, I had to like do some crap. I had to set people on fire and all kinds of stuff in the movie, you know? Yeah. And yeah, by then, and then, yeah, I did it. I pulled it off. And it's like, when I got down to the end, they made me change up a couple of things. That was the probably the hardest part, you know? So, because I was already so used to knowing what I needed to know. And yeah, from there, yeah, from there, we did to, what do we do? Yeah, I knocked it out. They said I did cool. I feel good about it. You know what I mean? It's like, you know, we feel good about it. You know, hopefully to do more. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just waiting to talk about that. I'm just waiting to talk about that. I'm just waiting to talk about that. It should be, it's the premiere in April. Say, man, hey, man. Thank you for coming on the show, man. Say, man, Fly Like Prime, man. How can they get a hold of you on Instagram? It's Fly Like Prime? Fly Like Prime, man. Star status club, Fly Like Prime. Check it, man. Hey, man, thank you so much. We love you, brother. Hey, Mr. Makler. Yes, sir. It's been another great segment. A boss talk 101, what a boss is talking. And that's it.