 Metal voice. Look at that. First time on the show, Preca Amaral. Is that pronounced properly? Is it Amaral? Yes. Perfect. Is it the right tone? Is it the right pronunciation? Amaral? Yes, Amaral. Okay, all right. Of course with me, my buddy Neil Turbin. Neil, what's happening? What's happening? All right. Cool news. Nervosa. I guess there's a new album on the way. There's a new video that's going to be shot in Greece, right? Yes. There's a tour that's coming up in the UK and probably some more festival dates as well. And I don't know what else. I guess there's all kinds of stuff. So I guess we got a lot of questions for you. Nice. All right, first of all, tell us about the new band members. I know there's been a lot of changes over time. Okay, you got this new lineup working on this new record. Tell us about the new lineup and each person. How's that? Yes. Now we have two guitarists in the band. So Elina Cotina joined the band the last year before we announced it to the public, but we were working together for this new album. We were composing all the songs for the next album and next singles. And after that, we joined the studio to start to record this. And we had a drummer, a new drummer last minute, like two weeks before she joined the band before the recordings. And we composed the drums, lines from the zero, basically in the studio. We had a very nice times there, a lot of work, but very nice times. And after we finished the recordings, we have invited the bassist to join Neroza because we still have like a no-definition situation about Mia. So we don't know if she will leave or stay. So we managed to stay with the two bassists, basically, but Helped Pied, that is the new bassist now for Neroza, she's doing most part of the shows and she can do the tours. And Mia, unfortunately, it's not available for the tours. So, but she still can participate in a few shows in summer, example, and some single shows. She can still appear playing with Neroza. So, and we are very excited for this new album now because I'm singing. It's something totally different to the situation. It surprised me in the last minute. So I decided to face this challenge because I don't want to change a singer again in Neroza. So I say, okay, let's do it. It cuts the costs. It cuts the cost, right? We don't have to hire somebody so now you can do it, right? I'm just not about the cost, but about to change again of singer, you know. Change singer is always complicated and I was afraid to trust in someone that will leave again the band because of personal reasons or whatever reasons, you know, that we can understand, of course, but to change a singer, it's always really hard. Change of members is hard, but the singer, it's the voice of the band, you know, it's a very hard to replace. So I say, okay, it's not something that I was planning, but I think it's now it's time for me to face this, you know. And if I want to keep it going on with the Neroza, I think it's the way to keep it depend on life, you know, just changing again the singer and change again the singer will kill the band. So I say, no, I will do it. Yeah, no, smart. So the execution of the vocals and also the guitar really stands out for me, you know, as far as the tone and playing that also your solo playing on there, I'm hard to be in. Yes, it was a huge challenge for me because I had to learn how to sing it basically in a few months. I was doing back in vocals before, but to be a singer is totally different. So I was used to do low vocals only. And when I started to record the album and say, okay, I have to do more than low only because otherwise I'll do only lows. It's kind of boring. So I have some classes with a friend of mine just to teach me how to do the high parts in a good to roll technique. And she teach me but I basically, when we start to record the album, everything was like jam, basically, you know, I was doing things without to know exactly what I was doing. Of course, like without the harm and my throat, so I know how to do this without the harm. But then I mean, I never experienced that I didn't have opportunity to try different kind of voices or tones or whatever. So our producer, Martin Foodia was riding me, you know, and somehow like, no, do this part, like, more high. No, this it's more intense, more low. And this helped me a lot. I think because if I was doing alone, it would be even harder. But I'm still learning how to do it. Maybe you're absolutely taking it on. I mean, that's, that's going over, like if you're a surfer, you'd be going over the falls, you know, you're, if you're in the way, you know, yeah. And Neil, you know, there are Neil's, Neil's like an accomplished singer. So, you know, you know, he's doing well, you're good. What about the new album? I mean, are you sticking strictly to like harsh vocals and death metal vocals? Are you saying, you know what, maybe you'll put a little clean parts here and there? Is that something you want to touch on? Clean for this album? No, because I think it was too much for me. So I didn't like, it's not something that I know how to do 100% with extreme vocals. Almost that, I would say. So I decided to keep a focus on that, do the right. And then when I learned how to do this properly, and then I can give a step more, you know. And, but look, each song that I recorded, I recorded it with a more or less different way, because I recorded one song, the first song that I recorded was Endless Ambition. And the day next, I just woke up, okay, I'll have to record another song. But I didn't remember how I sing before. And then I was singing in a different vibes as well, because I think I was feeling more of what the song is asking for. And we have like a very different kind of songs inside of the Threshold Metal vibes. But example, we have some songs that it's more into heavy metal. Other songs that it's punk vibes. The other one is Super Death Metal. We have another one that it's super dark. And I'm singing more low with the low vocals. It depends. I was feeling what the music was asking for me. We talked to know so much of what are we going to do it, like our producer just pressed the rack, and I was doing. We talked to thinking so much. The greatest music was created that way, you know. The greatest music was created that way, just doing it, vibe. Exactly. I'm a huge fan of the 70s music, because everything was more natural, you know, like anybody was thinking like I want to sound like that, because there was no references basically. So everything was creating that time. So I loved the experience to do this without thinking so much. How do you find the breathing part with the guitar in terms of delivery? Is that something that has been, you know, I know you mentioned that it's been a challenge to go from a low vocal to the more like some vocal of lead singer position. I think you're already doing this with your low vocal because it's the same breathing, unless you just do the chat part, you know, only the chorus part. It's a big challenge, because I think everybody's about intensity. So if you, I think it's so much intense, I use it too much air, and then I have, I will miss air to sing it. I'm still learning about that, but actually this was not the problem for me exactly. The problem for was memorizing the lyrics. Yes, my memory was like horrible. And because also we are not playing the new songs. So we are playing the only the old songs because we didn't release yet, only the endless ambition, the new single, of course. And it's a comfort, but because I'm playing this at least for two years now. So it's a kind of in a comfort zone. And I'm still need to put a little bit less intensity, because sometimes I'm so happy and so excited that I put too much air force there. That should be a little bit less. I'm still learning, but I'm playing within years. So this help it a bit more. Yeah. So when do you expect the album to come out? It's finished, right? The album's finished. Yes, it's finished. The album will be out in September only. So we have a that few months to still playing the old songs. So in other words, and then you're going to have a new single to be released soon, right? And you sing, you're doing a video for a new single, right? Tell us about that. Yes. Tell us about that. Yes, our plan is to start the promotion of the new album in August. And then we have a plan for more video clips, more three or four video clips and singles. Yeah, we're working now, exactly in this moment we are planning more or less. I cannot say so much. Just tell us what you can. Just tell us when it's coming out, the song tracks and everything. Just go right ahead. Don't worry. We won't tell anybody. No, no, no. The thing is we didn't fix it anything. We're still planning this with a label. I cannot say the date is exactly. But I already know that the album will be released in September and the promotion will start in August. But I guess what I want to ask you is tell us about filming the video. You know, you're asking people to come out and help you film the video. Yes. Oh, yes. This will happen in 10 days, actually. We recorded here in Greece. We invited the people to join with us. And Elena, the guitarist, has a bar here in Greece. And we are inviting everybody just to, you know, that famous and classical treasure metal video clips, you know, that everybody's enjoying. They're drinking some beers, doing some cheers, cutting bang and listening to some songs. And it's opportunity for we meet the fans in Greece, because now we have two Greek members in the band, but there wasn't ever played in Greece. Can you believe it? It's more majority Greek now. Yes. And we have a party in Greece, but we don't have a show. Of course, we are fixing that this year. We're gonna play here for sure. But the party will come first than the show. So and we decided to do this something special, too, because of our Greek fans that are waiting for Nervosa for so many years. And now we have two Greeks member in the band. And in the past, we have another one, the ex drummer, Eleni Notha was from Greece, too. So a lot of connection with Greece. So why not to record the video clip here, too? And help Elena with her bar. They did some amazing bars, too. Okay, good idea. Yeah, it's a great idea. A great idea. You find that the singing that the sound of the band has changed somewhat or not really drastically. So in other words, your sound versus, you know, other singers in the band, you find that that's taking your music maybe in a different direction. You know, obviously, the new single is really cool. So that's really my question. You find that there's a change in the sound. I don't think it's changing because I think the idea of Nervosa was very clear since the beginning that was mixed trash metal with metal. And this changed it in somehow, but always keep the style there. I think it's because I was always composing the riff example. Of course, I have a participation of other members in the band. I didn't compose everything alone. But my riff is in my way to play was always there. And many times I compose the vocal lines as well. And lyrics. So I always participate in a lot in the compositions of the band. And even if we have like three different vocals in Nervosa example, Fernanda's voice, it was super trash metal voice, more high and makes a lot of sense. And the riffs and the instrumental parts was more death metal in some albums. Example, so the equilibrium was always there, like half trash and half death. And when we change the line up when Diva assumed the vocals example, she has more extreme vocals, more death metal. But the instrumental was more trash in somehow. So the balance was always there mixing trash and death. And I think the difference of the band, it's the natural evolution of all the musicians and the history of the band to example, in the beginning was more a simple extra tour, more simple riffs, and then it's getting more complicated, but it's still super trash. And this was one of my main not fight, but like a kind of fight that keeps Nervosa being trash. Example, the first break that we have in Nervosa was because the girls wants to make Nervosa more death metal. And I say, I like, I love death metal. But the idea of Nervosa was the trash. We cannot leave this feeling, you know, like this thing, we can keep in doing trash death metal, we can do some songs more death metal, but not everything complete death metal. Because I love all the bands that mix stuff, not only one thing, you know, you were too close in my opinion, of course, it's like a personal taste. And now, example, with a new album, we are trying to make this more different in many ways to the instrumental example, perpetual chaos, we have a song that it's remember a bit of Motorhead with the heavy metal vocals. And then we have another song that it's example time to fight that it's a kind of punk, but with a bit of power metal, but trash metal. And then we have another song that is totally death metal that it's people of the beast, you know, and I'm going to have another one with a groovy trash metal, like a perpetual chaos song, and we have a super trash song like Venomous. So this kind of difference, you know, was always there. And now it's getting more and more and more space. So keep it trash. It's my fight. Rico, so you're in Greece, right? You're in Greece now. Is that where you're going to be staying for a while or your headquarters or is that where? Yeah, I'm between Italy and Greece now. You know, I live in Italy, but I'm more part of the time here in Greece because we are working a lot for the new album and for the next step plans and everything. So I'm in between of two countries for now. What's the difference between? Yeah, sorry, go ahead. In the future, I will decide where I will stay. But for now, I'm growing up like trying to break as a band in Brazil versus breaking a band in Europe. What are what are the differences, the good and the bad? Brazil, it's amazing country and it has a big metal scene, but economic talking, it's very hard. So live it from music in Brazil is very hard. Europe has a better history, economic talking. And the metal scene, it's more functional, you know, like we have many countries, many different currencies, many different cultures. So in somehow it's easier to make this, the things happen. I can fly very easy from one country to another and very cheap, but inside of Brazil, it's very expensive to take a flight and go in everywhere. You know, it's more or less like I think in US, it's not as cheap you fly inside of the country, but in Europe, it's cheaper to fly into country to another. That's why I can keep like a multi-country band, you know, and make this happen because it's not expensive to fly. Of course, now because of the war and COVID and everything, the flights are more expensive, but it's still payable. Yeah. Okay. These days, you got to think about that kind of stuff because that's all part of the planning process and what's going to be, you know, this is how they make their living. They have to be financially intelligent about the plants. A lot of bands are not able to go on tour with or another time. Yes. That's great. You have that plan that's sustainable to keep the band playing live. Yeah, and our label is also from Europe, so everything that's happened from the band since the last five years, even with the other lineup, the first lineup, everything was more in Europe, you know, so for me, make more sense to stay here. And when I have to rebuild the band and find the new members example, I was looking for band members in Brazil and in Europe. But in the end, I see the band like a farmini in Europe and say, okay, I have to move to Europe. And the things happened were not something like, no, I will have a European band. No, it was not something that I think was just something that worked for me in the end. It's so fascinating that you have a European band, I mean, most of the members, because being recently in Brazil, I mean, the caliber of players there is amazing. I mean, you have such a, you know, the population is like Los Angeles. I mean, it's a huge, self-followed big, big population, lots of people and lots of talented, lots of metal people and lots of players. So fascinating to me that you found these players in Greece, there's obviously a smaller country, but, you know, concentration of talent, obviously. And female, right? That's the crazy part. We have all these talented women with you. That's amazing. But it's not everybody that it's able to live from music. I can find a lot of talented girls in Brazil, for example. But maybe part of them are not ready to live from that. For example, some kind of mentalities can be different, you know, expectations can be different. It's a big move, you know, come from Brazil to Europe or live outside. Some people don't have health, for example. Our drummer, Eleni Nota, she joined the band and she discovered that she had a really healthy problem. That's why she left the band. She cannot be on tour. It's very dangerous for her. So there are many reasons for why the Brazilians are not in her voice and why I have Europeans. But it was a totally coincidence that I could find members, two members in Greece, you know, it simply happened and they didn't look in for like, no, we have to find another member, no. And the drummer is from Bulgaria now. So it's totally like I'm looking for who fit in her voice and he wants to live from that. Because sometimes the people that has no idea how it's be on tour all the time and no see family and don't sleep well, gain a lot of weight because you're eating shit, you know, no sleep and a lot of things. Let me ask you, so nobody speaks English as a first language, which is even more crazy. It's all English as your second language. And so is Elena and Hal and your drummer, right? It's all your second language. Do you ever get sort of like, listen, I speak multiple languages too, but do you ever, you know, you always want to, you feel more comfortable in your own language, you know, like, do you ever have that feeling of, oh man, I wish somebody else would speak Portuguese or I guess you speak Spanish. In the beginning, when it was with the old, the other lineup, in the beginning, I was feeling a bit like that because I was not used to speaking English like every day or all day for forever, let's say, because I was just speaking English every day when we were on tour, but not like in every, all the time, more than my own language example. But Diva, she was speaking a bit of Portuguese and she speaks Spanish that is pretty close to Portuguese. So I was feeling more comfortable. But for now example, I'm more used to right now. So now you got to learn Greek. That's the thing. No, this is so hard. I want. Are you an Athens? Are you an Athens? No, I'm in a city called Tricala that is in the center. Okay, that's where Elena's from. Okay. All right. Yeah, nobody speaks English there, right? They speak. They speak more than Italians. So you're staying at Elena's house? Yes. Okay, yes. She right there sleeping or something? No, she's working in the bar now. All right, just asking. I don't know. Maybe is her mother around cleaning up and making you food? No, she lives alone. Okay, I thought maybe her mother would be there making food for you and everything. No, she doesn't come around. No, my mother comes around, brings me food all the time. Yeah, it's amazing. Neal, you have any other questions? Yeah, I wanted to ask. Is there any I maybe this question was asked and I somehow missed it. It's really over here. But you have a working title for the album? Is that something that's your new album? I can't say the title yet. The name of it will kill me if I say that. What if we take a guess? Is it called Endless Ambition? Endless Ambition is a good one. Okay, so tell us about the UK tour now. You're going through the UK and if I look quickly, it's going to start May 22, right? And you're playing London, Bradford, Sheffield, Wolverhampton, Manchester. You're even playing KK Steele Mill. Yes, exactly. And we have one show before that will be in Belgium in a festival and it's a very nice festival. We'll play with the Destruction, Gammabomb, Holy Moes. And I don't remember actually, I don't remember exactly. But it will be a very nice festival and then we fly to UK and we have these shows and probably we will have one more show happening in 27 because we had a festival that was cancelled the festival, unfortunately. And let's see if we can book show last minute covered this day. All right. There's one more question, Jimmy. Sure. Yeah. We had some great guests on some of your previous reporting albums. You know, we worked with Schmere, unfortunately, Destruction, Great Guy and Schmere. And of the metal voice and love to see Schmere when he's out in LA. And also Eric A.K. from Plotton and Jepsen. So is there any plans on the new album to have, I know you're busy singing and doing, you know, double duty, you know, slinging the guitar and vocals. But is there any plans to have any guest vocalist or any type of guest on your album, if you know about? Yes. I can say, I can't say who is going to be, but I can say some stuff. I can give some spoiler. We have two guests for this album, one singing with me and I can say that it's a girl. And the second one, it's an amazing guitarist that did the participation with one solo in one of our songs. A girl or a boy? A girl or a boy? A boy. And it's one of my biggest influences. And it's one of my biggest influences. Oh really? A boy that's one of your biggest influences? Yes. As a guitarist. Let's see. We got three billion people. Yes. Let's go down the list. Don't worry, we won't tell anybody. Don't worry. It's just between you and me and the internet. It's probably Gus G, I bet. The what? It's Gus G, probably. Ah, yes, of course. Yeah. So tell us your influences. So last question, what are your influences? I can say the bands, why not? Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Seputura, of course. It's one of my biggest influence, like Slayer, Testament, Vader, Pantera, Metallic, of course. Exodus, Tefangio, many bands. Yes. What about females? Oh, so what about females? Look, females, I follow many of them, but this is more recently, I have to say that I took a long time to know the first female band example. The first one was Gross School. Yeah, Gross School is great. Yes, they are amazing. And but I discovered then, like in 2004, something like that. This was very late. Since I started to listen to metal, it was very late. In that time, the example, the internet was not so famous in Brazil, for example, we didn't have so much access and it was more limited. It was a bit expensive. So I didn't have access every day and I didn't know how to find music. This is more from the 2009 from now, right? So it was more hard to discover bands, let's say. And from now, I admired a lot, for example, Ginger, Tatiana, for example, as a singer, it's a person that I admired a lot and I have like an influence. It's hard to say, but there's a lot of young bands coming now. For example, in Latin America, we have like a really big amount of girls in a metal scene, you know, like a many females band coming. Except for in Brazil, we have Nervosa, Crypta, we have the Domination, Skrota, we have Sinai, a lot of female bands and they are all professional and all living from music. And probably the most part of this name that I'm saying to you, you will see for the next few years, then releasing albums and everything. And I'm still discovering, you know, girls here and there. Well, you're going to be somebody's influence, you know, you're going to be some girls influence, I think, you know, because people are going to look at you, some young girl's going to say, oh, she can do it, then I can do it. Right? Yes. So you're going to be an influence. Jimmy Freaker is already an influence. Now she's doubling down. You know what I mean, you know what I mean, you know what I mean. I'm trying to say that their, you know, their legacy is going to influence, you know, a girl saying, you know, I want to be like her, you know, and, and, you know, that's what I'm saying. So it's nice. When we broke the first lineup example, I received a lot of messages from girls around the world saying like, please, Nervosa can't die. We need Nervosa. Nervosa, it's very important for us. Please don't give up. I listen to this a lot. The people who are sending me a message, the girls who send me a message a lot and they say, Nervosa will never die. So that's why I created the hashtag Nervosa will never die and everybody started to use it. That's true. And I think there is a new generation of girls now. A lot of example, the girls that I'm playing now, example Elena, the guitarist, it's from the new generation. She's born in 94. And our drummer, it's a new generation. She born in 97. When I started to play the band, I didn't have so much options. Like I didn't know so much girls, you know, it was very hard find a drummer example, grow drummer was almost impossible. But from now days, we see a lot on Instagram, many girls appearing every day almost playing metal and playing even better than metal. And this is amazing. Yeah. All right. Any last remarks there, Neil? Well, I just want to say thank you. Congratulations on the new album in September of the same and the tour coming up in the UK and Britain and Europe and in the new band, having singing as a lead singer now and the first person is our player and like, wow, I mean, looking forward to seeing the new live version. Hopefully you'll come to the States sometime soon. And yes, all your hard work. I mean, that's really the dedication and the commitment and, you know, not not marching forward. I mean, that's what it's all about. And obviously, you're doing it and in a great way. So congratulations. And we look forward to the new album. Yes, thank you so much for the words and for the space here for everything. We are hoping that we can go to US this year, but more in the end of the year. But we are going very soon. We have something about the US to announce very soon. Well, I'm in Canada, Neil's in the US. So yes, we got you covered everywhere. Yes. And when you're in the US and LA in Los Angeles, Neil will interview you guys in person if you want. Oh, nice. It would be nice. All right. All right, guys. Have yourself a wonderful day and thank you for everything. Thank you guys. See you very soon.