 Good afternoon. I'm Arunabha Kosh, the CEO of the Council on Energy, Environment and Water. I'm looking forward to this very exciting panel on tripling renewables, making it rapid and responsible. 2023 was an extraordinary year, the warmest year on record, at least in terms of global surface temperature averages. But we also saw record investments in renewables, about $1.8 trillion of investment in clean energy. And a few weeks ago, at COP28, over 120 countries agreed to triple renewable energy capacity by 2030 in the path towards net zero, by 2050. Now, for some time, this whole issue around deploying renewables has centered around a conversation of money, materials, manpower, and these are certainly important issues, but today we want to go beyond. We want to get into the nuts and bolts of how to do this rapidly and responsibly. We're going to ask ourselves, are we operating with a better understanding of the time scales involved from permitting to construction to extended use? We're going to ask, are we talking to or are we talking with and engaging with communities to make sure that they are co-designers and co-participants in the energy transition? And we'll ask, are we establishing the platforms and the protocols for collaboration across geographies so that renewables can get deployed more rapidly across geographies? To discuss all of this, we've got a stellar panel, Secretary John Kerry, the U.S. presidential envoy for climate change. After that, we have Ms. Jennifer Morris, CEO of the Nature Conservancy. We have Ms. Kadri Simpson, the commissioner for energy of the European Commission, and on my immediate left, Mr. Ignacio Galan, executive chairman of Ibedrola. So I'm going to start with one question to all four of you, and I don't want comments. I only want a number. You have a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being very optimistic. How optimistic are you that we can triple renewables at a global level by 2030? Just a number, Secretary Kerry. I'm sorry, you can't do it with a number. You could do either. It's possible. So yes, you'd say 10. Could you do it? Yeah, you could. In terms of possibility, will we do it? Two, three. Good. So let's see if we can bridge the gap between two and 10 during this conversation. Jennifer. Seven. Seven. Simpson. Yes, we can do it. And that is also clear because now the coalition is already 132 countries large. Nine. Nine. Wonderful. And Mr. Galan. I think from the side of the industry and consumers, eight, I shall depend very much on the government behavior and the government support and the ambitions of the countries. So we're stretching from two to eight, seven, eight, nine. And so. But I want to remind you every one of them said it depends on depends on that's why we are here. Now we get into the real conversation. So why don't we start with the business perspective, Mr. Galan? What would be those practical actions that are needed now to start delivering on these huge commitments at scale, but very rapidly from a business perspective, what's the nuts and bolts you would want to focus on? So I will start for the last point I mentioned. For the site of the government legislator to provide predictability stability rule of law. I think we have already technology. We have financial resources. We have ambition to make that happen. But I think we need already to move faster. And for that, I think we need already all this one. The other second thing, which is important, is to promote already to increase the electricity demand. So we are facing moments which I think there are in certain moments in countries where we have excess of renewables, which are making the depression of prices with that is not precisely incentivating that one. So I think the acceleration of demand, elected vehicles, heat pumps, green ammonia, green fertilizers, green methanol, et cetera, et cetera. Second point and very important, the commission is already starting talking and we've been already together talking about that one in Dubai is a great infrastructure. So I think the grid is a bottleneck. It can be much more bottleneck, which I think not most many countries have already still enough mentalized about the need of increasing interconnection between countries and regions to increase already the power for providing these services or electrification, I was commenting. I will just put the example of elected vehicle. Elected vehicle is not already needed the charger, but the charger without the grid behind is for nothing. So you need already power behind every charger. And another point which is important and sure that is going to be mentioned in the next future is the need of storage for avoiding precisely these times with the depression of prices. And storage has two areas. Short and storage can be made with batteries, but we need short and long-term storage, which I think we need to promote the most efficient system, which is existing at present, which is hydro pumping storage, which I think is crucial on that one. So I think that why stability, predictability in certain things, promoting infrastructures with needs already to connect this one and to storage and to supply all those ones. So you pointed out both the creation of the demand as well as the infrastructure needed to make sure that the supply side bottlenecks are removed. If I could turn to you, Commissioner Simpson, from a government or regulatory perspective, what is the European Union doing at the commission level, but also at individual country level to unplug some of these bottlenecks? What we see in Europe is that government after government announces the states when their power generation will be carbon-free. Some of our member states plan to have 100% renewable power production. Some others will achieve this with the help of nuclear. And the dates are as close as 2030, 2035. But the bigger challenge is how to achieve the larger distribution of renewables in overall energy mix. And for that reason, we just agreed with our 27 member states the target that in overall energy consumption, we will aim the share of renewables at the level of 42.5. That means that we are also covering transport and building sector and industry. And as you can imagine, this is a challenge even for Europeans. Now, in power sector, we saw a record year for renewables in 2022. The reason was that imported fossil fuels were just too expensive. And everybody really was eager to invest into the renewables. Last year, 2023 hit another record. But what we see now is that we have more renewable projects in the permitting pipeline than under construction. So from our side, we have to shorten the permitting. And then, of course, as Mr. Galan said, we have to secure that all these renewable installations will be connected to the grid, because only then it makes sense to have them. Could I just ask a follow-up question? This is a very interesting metric, the number of projects in the permitting pipeline versus the number in the construction pipeline. So give us a flavor of one or two regulatory tweaks that you might be making to shift that ratio more towards the other side, the latter side. Indeed. When we mapped what is prolonging our permitting procedures, then we saw several aspects. But one of these was that our authorities who have to grant the permits, they just don't have enough stuff. So the manpower is not sufficient. Then there is a coordination issue. And we can shorten the procedures significantly if we will digitize the processes. So simple things that we can do that without avoiding all these aspects that are also important to the impact of projects to our nature and our biodiversity. So this is one of the things that we plan to do. And another one to make large-scale renewables more meaningful. For example, we do see that we have vast potential for offshore wind. But it makes sense to cooperate. So we will start planning of these offshore wind parks. For example, we call North Sea that this is our future European North Sea power plant. We start planning based on sea basin approach. So all the countries or the markets around our sea basins, and we do have five of them, have to cooperate. And instead of radial connections, mesh screed makes sense. That's an interesting example of multi-country coordination to ease the permitting process. If I could hop across on the other side of the ocean, Secretary Kerry, I'll come to you. You mentioned right at the outset that it's probably 10 that we need to get to the tripling of renewables. That we could. Probably two, whether we could. What is the U.S. doing to bridge that gap? Well, 10 that we could. Yeah. Because I'm an optimist number one and number two, we have the means. Absolutely have the means. And we know exactly what we... Let me strike that. We have most of the capacity to do it, with the exception of a couple things that have been mentioned here. And I'll mention also. But we also have the capacity to fix those things. So there's an unknown element here. We had about a 50% increase in global capacity to about 510 gigawatts just in last year. That's right. That's a damn good sign. That tells us a lot. The problem is the gap that we have to get to to achieve this is about 3,700 gigawatts. We need to get to the global goal of 11,000. We're currently at 7,300. So if we can break loose investment in grid infrastructure and begin to be able to build the cross boundary transmission connections that we need, huge. That's a big step towards completing to getting to the 10%. Second, the delays in administrative planning and laydown are intolerable. And we're guilty as much as any. We have 2,000 gigawatts of backed up demand in waiting for FERC and folks to clear it. And we have a Congress that regrettably has not been able to reach agreement to get the permitting sped up to create a statutory requirement for timeframe. I am not for throwing out, you know, all environmental consideration and having a NEPA or whatever kind of evaluation, but I'm not for taking five years to do it. And I'm not for having five to 10 years of litigation that ties you up. So it's impossible to retract the capital and it becomes that much more expensive and so forth. So we could do it. The third thing is there's policy uncertainty, you know, and investors need a little more certainty than the current policy provides. But the money is there and would be there because you get a good PPA here, you know, a good offtake agreement and you've got a 30-year, 25-year source of revenue. And that's exactly what a lot of those trillions of dollars are looking for out there. And then finally, you know, greater and more controlled financing within emerging economies. But emerging economies, FYI, respectfully, are not going to be the ones that affect the outcome of 7,300 or 11,000 gigawatts because they're minuscule, they're small, and they barely contribute at all to the problem of the emissions. So the real battle here would be in the 20 largest economies of the world, which also are the 20 largest emitters in the world. And if you get them moving, we can have amazing things happen. Germany right now is probably at around 50-plus percent already, and we'll deploy more. There's no, we have a number of countries, Indonesia and others we worked with in the jet peas that are deploying. So we have the technology to be able to reach our goal of a 43 percent minimum reduction by 2030. We have the ability. The question is, will we triple, will we put these out at the rate? If we do, we can meet the goal. And if we don't cure the kind of things that I just laid out, that's when I go to the downside of 5 percent or whatever you call it, 2, 3, 4, 5. It just ain't going to be what it ought to be, which is the full tripling. And you've highlighted some very practical problems, whether it's the policy certainty or the permitting or even the interconnections across geographies. I think that's a very important point that both you and Commissioner Simpson have brought up. Jennifer Morris, if I could turn to you. When we talk about this whole issue of permitting, there's also this issue of community engagement. And so what is the role that civil society can play in the geographies where this deployment is actually going to happen to provide the certainty that the community is also a stakeholder in the story? Yeah, this is hugely important. Let me explain why I said seven. So I'm an impatient optimist. Everything that's been said is exactly right. We have the technology. We've got good policies. But what we're seeing, whether it's in the EU or India or Africa or in the U.S., where the Nature Conservancy has deep relationships with communities throughout the U.S. is large opposition. And in fact, we're seeing it from 2018 to 2022, there was a six-fold increase in opposition to WEN projects. So to get to that 11,000, we have to be really, really smart to go fast. And there's two main things I wanted to mention. One is proper planning. We launched something at the last COP with the Global Renewables Alliance, which is a five-point plan to look at what communities, why are they opposing? To go to those areas which can be actually nature-positive and really, really good for communities. I'll give you an example. I was recently in Ohio. As you know, it's a deeply Republican state, very big on farming. And there are signs everywhere saying no utility solar. And I asked my in-laws who live there, why is there so much opposition to solar? You're getting actually more money per acre than you are for corn or soy. Why are farmers not embracing this? And they said, we are farmers. We are not culturally equipped for this new energy. And quite frankly, we don't like how it looks. So that, I think in my mind, is a real mistake on behalf of our whole sector of not planning ahead, not creating what I just want to really congratulate the EU on these renewable acceleration areas where you're actually dealing with avoiding those communities that are going to be completely opposed. And when you know there's an appropriate place that's going to be nature-positive to do large-scale utility, wind or solar, that you're able to go there and to go there much, much faster. And right now, we actually have the technology to know where that is. In the U.S., actually globally, we know there's 17 times the degraded land where we have community support where we can get to that 11,000 number. But we've got to be smart about where we put this and do deep community engagement before we rush in and try to do something that's going to be opposed. And that's not just about nature. And it's not just about economic development. It's really about going fast to get to that 2030 number and that tripling goal. We have to do it in a much, much smarter and a more planning approach, which I think the EU is leading the way on. So to share with you very quickly, I didn't know that about Ohio. I've heard that in other places. But Ohio was the one state I needed to win. If I'd won Ohio, I'd been President of the United States. So now there are two reasons to be mad at Ohio. Okay, so better planning next time. But in fact, Jennifer, if I understand this correctly, what you're suggesting is it's a top-down approach towards identifying geographies that might be viable for rapid deployment and a bottom-up approach of engaging with the communities to create that narrative. Exactly, exactly. Let me give you a quick other example of success story. So we have Ohio. By the way, my husband worked on your campaign in Ohio and his county won. There is hope in Ohio. I don't want to be an Ohio bachelor at all. So in Eastern Kentucky, another deep red state in the United States, coal producing. In fact, one of the largest coal mines in the entire United States, which is now not producing coal, because they're out of it, has said we would like to do utility-scale solar. Enough solar on a 7,000-acre of a former mountain top, cleared mountain top for coal. They're going to install enough renewable solar to power 500,000 homes in Eastern Kentucky. I thought they're going to be opposed to this. They're not going to like this. Well, there's two contributing factors why they're very supportive. One, it's out of sight. You don't see it. It's on top of a mountain. Number two, this is a community that's used to producing energy. In fact, this community is so proud of their history of energy production. They talk about how in World War II, the firepower for the United States was because in no small part of their community because they were providing coal for the military effort in World War II. So they had this pride in energy production. And now, they don't care if it's coal, it's now solar. And they continue that pride. And it's just wonderful to see if we do it smart, we really think about those cultural drivers for acceptance of change and go into the right places. We can get to that 20, 30 number. Just to emphasize that, the largest deployment, biggest, fastest deployment of wind in the United States of America and solar, Texas, home of oil and gas. And they understand energy and they're fine with this. So I think she meant really important points, the two pieces of up and also pick your places. And we're going to take those insights on planning, coordination, inter-geography, interconnections. But we'll take it beyond the geographies we've been talking about. Secretary Kerry, you're absolutely right that from an emissions perspective, it's the top 20 countries that matter. But within those top 20 countries are also some rapidly growing emerging economies. True. And if I just for a few seconds just took off my moderator hat, the country I come from, India, went from less than 20 megawatts of solar in 2010 to now the fourth largest renewables market in the world. But even in such geographies, there has to be rapid deployments. In the context of narrative building to engage with communities, I think one of the things that often gets missed out is, as the IE estimates, about 30 million new jobs could be created in this. We've estimated that using distributed renewables for livelihood activities is a $50 billion market in India, $12 billion market in Africa. So I want to come back to each one of you and maybe again start with Jennifer, very quickly, could you elaborate a little bit beyond the developed markets? How do you engage with communities where this rapid deployment can happen, even in emerging markets? So everyone feels they have a stake in this transition. Yeah, that's really important. And I'll just mention, we just launched a tool today with that's now a global map of solar and wind with Microsoft and Planet, which can basically show we can take it, walk into, say in India, a policymaker's hand and say, this is where your solar and wind is happening. Because often they don't actually have that data at a national level. And how we've said to them is, you know, you can actually see from this analysis that the solar is happening faster in certain states and not others. And so having the technology and the data sets that are visual and are usable by policy makers will enable them to say, okay, maybe we should be putting more solar or wind in this particular geography and not in this one where there's in certain geographies in India, for example, in other countries as well, there's been an overabundance in a cluster of this energy in certain places. So how do we make sure we're finding those areas that are degraded, but we're also doing it in a way that's distributed in a way that more people can benefit it from it? That's my way. Mr. Gala, and if I could come to you, I mean, again, Iberdrola operates across multiple geographies. Give us a flavor of how could technology help, you know, this planning and permitting and coordination better? Is there some any tools Iberdrola is using or exploring to speed up the transition? Well, I think we started 25 years ago. I've been for many years, I've been saying that the main bottleneck was permitting. And I'm very glad that people talk about permitting. I think you are aware of my conversation in Brazil, permitting, permitting. So I would like to ask something about this, how to engage the local communities. So I agree in a rural area, I agree in a village. And I think I know a bit how the farmers behave, how they think. And I think in many cases, we, big utilities, we are very arrogant. We go there. We are going to make that one because we are powerful, strong, and that's good. But I think what these people, they are touch on that one. And I think we have to engage on that one. We have already made some engagement with certain communities, such a way all the citizens of this community has already in their energy bill, some price. Because we have already, besides our big scale, utility scale, whatever farm is, another not utility scale, which is just for their own. It's their own. They are already owners of that one. The second thing is not to disturb their traditional way of life. I think they have ships, or they have cattle. We have not to say, oh, Matt, it's my land. I'm going to pay that one. No, they continue grazing in the same place they've been grazing for years with their ships. We are seeing that, for instance, we demonstrate that biodiversity in this area increases. People have to be aware that that happened as well, because they are that better than that one. I think sometime, and I have to say because of my experience of 25 years, we are, in some cases, administration, public powers, and the utilities, and the utility. We are too arrogant. We need to be much modest in the way we treat these local communities, just showing what are the benefit for them, how they can benefit from that one in all times. Could I give an example where we've been humbled and... I can't tell you, the area where this guy come from is a small village in the middle of nowhere. It's a populated, very low population. I think that is an important thing as well. We have not to go to make these things in areas which are highly populated. I think you try to make a wind farm in a place which is 300 habitants per mile, I think, forget. But I think you have to go to his area, which is 7 habitants per square kilometer, which is an area which is adding something to those ones. What is the experience? I think these people, it's already first, we try, then all construction is with local jobs. We take already all the area, 20, 30, 50 kilometers around, and we force our suppliers, then the people, employees, people from local area. Second thing is making this thing I was mentioning to you, all the people in the village, not only the public local budget benefit, no, no, themselves in the village. So, in the village, they see that now my electricity was costing 10, now it's costing five, because we own this part of... They feel honored of that one. The third one is to try to reskill the people of this area for using other places. I'm very proud in certain of the places in this whole land as well, which is the west part of Spain. And these people have been educated, educated, and this has already created, we generate jobs, not only for this one. They are moving across the country now, and then Ben, electricians, whatever, are ready because create local school for electricians to transform these people who has been farmers for life, so to do another thing. So, we need to transmit the sense of ownership of that one, if not, it doesn't work. Fair enough. So, now let's take those lessons out to the world as a whole, and let me come back to Commissioner Simpson and Secretary Kerry. If you've got to rapidly deploy renewables, triple them over the next seven years, what is the role of international cooperation here, not just in target setting, in actual deployment? Commissioner Simpson, could I start with you? What is the European Commission doing to support with technology dissemination or co-creating these projects in other geographies? First of all, we lead by example. And I just wanted to share with you a short moment that we have discovered in Europe that you can rapidly install renewables in densely populated places too, because there are territories where you don't have other competitors. These are rooftops. So, for us newly built industrial sites have to well install also rooftop solar, and we have done so also for public buildings. And for farmers across different geographical regions, but it makes more sense in the southern part, where you have lots of sun, you can combine successfully ugly PVs with production. These solar PVs are just on the higher ground and give shade at these months where otherwise your crop will get too much heat and sunshine. Since we created this coalition at COP 28, Ripple Renewables, by the end of this decade, the European Commission has also informed the signatories that we will dedicate additional 2.3 billion euros to assist governments who need our assistance to improve energy efficiency gains, but also to install new renewables. And of course we do understand that to be able to install renewables, they have to strengthen also their electricity crates. We have done that back home. We know that we need to smarten our crates even more to allow small producers and consumers to connect their solar panels and we can share the knowledge and we can support financially. Of course, it's not enough. And for really materialising the plans that do exist, we call all the multinational development banks backed also swiftly because financing is a key. Secretary Kerry, you were championing something called the energy transition accelerator. Could you give us a flavour of how that mechanism might work towards getting more investment going towards emerging markets and deploying rapidly? Sure. I'd be delighted to and if I may add a couple of other quick observations on this, on the international piece. The ETA called the Energy Transition Accelerator is basically a reaction to my early travel three years ago in this job of going to countries, emerging economies, Africa, various places where you were trying to get the leaders to make a different set of decisions about what they would deploy, i.e., they had gas, they could exploit it, a number of them do have gas and want to exploit it, but they didn't understand how they had other options, whether it was geothermal or solar renewable of one kind or other or even nuclear in some cases. So the biggest single handicap in their willingness to make the decision to deploy smart was money. We didn't have the money. And no country has enough money nowadays to do what we need to do with the trillions of dollars that need to be deployed in order to affect this transition. So how do we win? We win by being smarter about creating bankable deals around the world. And you can create those bankable deals, particularly with blended finance. You can utilize, we've just had two or three sessions here about the GAIA program, we're dealing with charity, charitable institutions could leverage very significantly, coupled with some public money from state, from national entities. And that would help to deal with the World Bank, you sort of have this combination in this full blended form, and you can attract capital to the table because you can de-risk the deal. And if you have first loss being taken by philanthropy, for instance, or you set up a structure where your lineup, your chain of credit is such that people feel protected, or you have a guarantee even. I think we should be getting people willing to make guarantees. I wouldn't hesitate on the right projects to be issuing a national federal guarantee. It's not my job, and I don't get to do that. But it would make the world of difference to our ability to accelerate all of these things. So the ETA is actually a program to bring back a viable voluntary carbon market initiative where we can, in fact, buy offsets, we being corporations or countries, you can buy an offset, but it's going to be done according to very high level of environmental integrity. We've been working, we've had a national consultative group of 30 people, you served on it, thank you very much, where we're trying to make sure we really understand by making the marketplace jurisdictional, which means the entire region or country, so you're not picking projects here and there, and that's where games get played. And unfortunately, some fly-by-night artists who will take advantage of a sort of unregulated market have abused and given a bad name. We think we can restore the name, we can come in with high integrity rules and guardrails, and we're talking with SBTI and BCMI and everybody to try to get everybody on board, I think we can get there. And that will enable us to really not just deploy renewables, but to protect forests, to do the things we need to do. Now, we did a model of this in Egypt with the new FA program for the last, for the COP in Sharm el Sheikh, where we took $500 million of our money, when I say our money, we had Germany, the United States, a few folks tripped in, rank, the EBDRD, and that $500 million greased the skids for $20 billion total, $10 billion of public and $10 billion of private sector capital to come to the table. What would it do? It was going to help pay and affect the transition of 11 gas turbines that were going to be closed, and we would open 10 gigawatts worth of renewable energy. So that kind of incentive could be replicated, that could help us meet our goal here. The second, not only did we do that, but we worked with Indonesia on a Jet P program, we did it with Vietnam on a Jet P program, and they have to agree that they're going to deploy X amount of more renewable. So this is another way that we could in the international arena. We can do our part by putting some money on the line, by bringing people together, convening, cajoling, leveraging, and getting these deals put together. We have very little time left, but I do want to again come back to Jennifer, to you first, and then maybe to you Mr. Ilan, about how do we, I mean clean energy is good, but clean energy also needs to be nature positive, and if it's going to happen in the same geography, again that seems to become some sort of a limitation. So how do we solve for that in order for the clean energy to be deployed very rapidly? Any one specific example if you can give? Yes. In the state of Virginia, the largest contributor to deforestation is not agriculture, it's solar. That's unacceptable. We should not be destroying forests for our solar ambitions. So we know where the degraded lands are. We know where there's low biodiversity, low conflicts with farmers, with communities. So let's be smart about it and not just deploy. So we want to do it fast and we know we can do it, if we want to go fast, we have to do it in a much smarter, much more holistic thinking about these issues before we just rapidly go in. Mr. Ilan, again, is there any technology tool we could use to map both the clean energy potential and make sure it's nature positive as we deploy at scale? Well, I think I'm shocked with this thing you had mentioned that for making solar, you are cutting trees. I think we have a program just deposit. We have a program of planting 20 million trees worldwide. Yes. I'm really, I'm really shocked on that one. So I think it's what we are doing. So we are trying to use our artificial intelligence for defining what is the areas which we can already optimize the wind production. So what are the areas where we can make that one? We have already just, as I mentioned, trying to engage as much as we can the local communities on this one. The fact we have a program, we call the program Convive. Convive is, I don't know the translation, partnership. So with local communities, we make an event every year in different region in which we invite those areas which has been transformed as consequence of that one. Today, for instance, some mining areas of coal mining areas. We closed the coal power plant many years ago. And we are transforming this one. We are producing now solar panels. Not only we are putting already there, so wind farms of, but they are producing, they are making their own solar panel. We transform areas of shipyards with today, they are already manufacturing our foundation and our satellite station for offshore. So in the Indian countries, like Germany, like France, like Spain, like Britain. So what do you use? We use their skill in welding. So, but I think that in the region is seeing the benefits of this, let's say, transition. So I think for me it's very important then the citizens in the areas where we are allocating those one feel then they are already benefit on that one. There's something which I always, when I discuss with, we are in third world countries as well. And I think the third world countries, emerging countries have the opportunity of jumping from no electricity to clean electricity without passing through what we're passing this time. Fortunately for them, the cost today of a solar, as we're green, it's cheaper than any other technology. So today the CAPEX, the investment needed for enough show is similar to a coal power plant. Why to make coal when you can make offshore? Okay, so we've got one minute left. We've got to wrap up, but I'm going to go back to that same question I started with. Having heard these different solutions, examples from your countries as well as from across the world, does your vote change on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being very optimistic? Can we get there in terms of tripling renewables, just a number again in the reverse order? Mr. Galan? I said the number, I said eight. Eight. I'm still very optimistic, nine. Nine. I'm going to go eight and make sure we use a tool called Site Renewables Right. Wonderful. So you've gone from seven to eight? Yes. Secretary Kerry. I believe we can get there if we can make some of the changes we talked about here today. If we do those things, we can get there. I think what ought to drive us is the fact that we can get there. Wonderful. I heard two for me just to summarize. Thank you. Just to summarize, I got 10 points on how to get to 10. One, policy certainty. Two, demand generation. Three, stuffing. Four, coordination across geographies. Five, mapping the areas, including using AI. Six, blended finance. Seven, beyond land-based rooftop renewables. Eight, make a nature positive. Nine, get the right skills going. And 10, most importantly, humility. Thank you very much. Can I politely make a recommendation that we agree, we take those 10 things, we put them together and get them out there as a conclusion of this group, so that there's something out there that's really you can build on and organize around. And we ought to be figuring out how we're going to create some entity that will organize around that. Well, I think we should recognize that this session has been put together, and a lot of the issues that came up have been covered by the World Economic Forum Center for Energy and Materials. And perhaps this 10-point agenda can be something that the center can take forward. And we come back here next January to ask, how much progress did we make on these 10 points? Please put your hands together to thank Secretary Kerry, Dr. Morris, Dr. Simpson.