 The Mac Observers' Mac Geekab, episode 751 for Monday, March 4th, 2019. Thanks, folks, and welcome to the Mac Observers' Mac Geekab, the show where we take your questions, your tips, your cool stuff found, more tips, our tips, your tips, did I mention tips? More tips than you can shake a tip at. And I don't even know what that means, but that's how it's going to be. The reason why we have so many tips is because the goal is for each and every one of us to learn at least five new things every single time we get together, and that's what we're going to do today here in Durham, New Hampshire, I'm Dave Hamilton. And here in Fairfield, Connecticut, where I'm shaking my fist to people that won't clear their sidewalk or clear their cars of snow after a snowstorm. This is... John F. Brown. Well, you'll be proud of me, John F. Brown. I just came in from running the snowblower. We don't have sidewalks, so that's not really an issue here, but I ran my snowblower anyway because I needed to clear stuff. I do always clear a nice little spot for our mail carrier to be able to get to the mailbox. So, there's... Well, that's my concern is that I don't want to endanger them by having, you know, especially overnight when it goes below freezing and then it turns into a treacherous icy path of death. So, I mentioned that I think about this, folks, I'm going to share something that has nothing to do with Makikab, except that we talk about, you know, how my office is separate from my house here. The previous owners built this building that my office and studio is in. And it's awesome, except... And it's really great, actually, because the way they positioned it, you can't see one of the neighbor's houses from the main house. So it really does create like this nice little private feeling kind of, you know, compound for us here, which is freaking awesome, except where they positioned it blocks the sun because it's on the south side of my driveway. So it blocks the sun. So I have this office-building shadow-shaped icy death pond that lives in my driveway for most of the winter. And where it's really dangerous is when there is snow on it because you forget you're walking in the snow where the ice is melted, and then you are suddenly not walking in the snow where the ice is melted, but it looks the same until you're on your butt. And that's no fun. I actually really hurt myself last winter. But anyway, so when you're building buildings, think about where the sun might be, especially if you have ice to melt. So there you go. That's tip number one that I wasn't even planning on sharing. That's good advice because actually one time I did slip on an icy sidewalk and actually smashed my Palm seven. What's that, John? Oh, wow. It was a long time ago. Yeah. But yeah, it was in my pocket and I or no, it was in my bag and I fell and well, it shielded me. But yeah, that was such a cool little device. That was that device was responsible for allowing us to do our first live keynote coverage from the keynote at the Javits Center, which Noah Wiley came out as Irsat's Steve Jobs and started the keynote until Steve came out and jokingly critiqued him and all of that. But yeah, so we've talked about this a few times and I'm sure I know we did an article many, many, many moons ago about how we did all this, but your Palm seven was great because I had the Palm three. And so I would busily scratch notes into the Palm three via their graffiti like handwriting recognition or whatever. And then when we had a moment, I would use IR and beam them to you and then you because your Palm seven had GPRS capability. If I'm trusting my memory, I think it was cellular data. OK, well, it was some sort of data. Yeah, I thought it used GPRS, but I could be wrong about that. It could have, but it was an internet connection. It was some sort of right. You were able to send email from that, and that's the important part. And then you would email the most recent batch of notes that I just beam to you to Brian Chaffin, who was sitting in our office in Austin, and he would take those and format them and put them on the web. And this is how live keynote coverage was done in the old days. Kids, you can ask your parents about what it was like to read along that. So, yeah. So here we are. Yeah, thank you, Palm. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you know, I don't even know where we are anymore, but I do. Actually, that's just that was like a nice little trip down memory lane. Another trip down memory lane is with our first sponsor, which is BB Edit from Barebone Software, 25 years and going strong as my favorite text editor. 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Our thanks to Barebones, both for making BB Edit and for sponsoring this episode. All right, John. Now, I think we should probably get to a question or six. How's that sound? Five, six. All right. I don't know. We'll start with one. Maybe we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves here. Should we just start with one? All right. Proceed. OK. I don't know where I'm going to start with this. We'll start with Nick. Nick writes, he says, my wife has recently upgraded to a new MacBook Pro for work using all the USB-C interfaces. She wants to get a dock for her home desk, but really doesn't like that having a USB-C dock means that she'll be powering or charging the laptop the whole time she's connected. As they say, it is bad battery management behavior. She's thinking about a smaller, non-powered port expander instead so she can have ports off of one side of her MacBook Pro and power on the other and can plug or unplug as needed, as told by fruit juice. Has anyone found a solution to this yet? She says, I figure an app or utility that would allow you to soft control charging via the MacBook Pro, if this is even possible in macOS, or maybe a USB-C dock that would allow you to turn off the feeding of the power via the USB-C cable would be helpful. If this isn't something that the dock manufacturers are doing, maybe it's something they should consider. Combining power and ports into one connection instead of the old MagSafe Thunderbolt combo where you could control power separately from your port connection seems to be a serious step backwards in manageability and battery maintenance. So you bring up a really good point, Nick, because certainly we have learned over the years that batteries didn't, I'm not saying don't note that, didn't like it at all when they were just charged all the time. We always talk here about keep the electrons flowing, either into the battery or out, but never just in stasis because the battery doesn't last. The last few years, though, that has been anecdotally at least proven to us by listeners to no longer be the case. It seems battery technology and especially Mac OS' battery management technology with newer Macs really mitigates this down to something that's just not an issue. And we've had several of you, especially over the last year or so, we started asking about this, send us your system profiler report. So if you go into about this Mac, you go to system report, that brings up system information. I call it system profiler because I remember those days and if you go into, oh, I'm not in a laptop here. I don't think it's in power. I think it's actually in a separate battery thing, but it might be in power. And maybe, John, you can look that up for me and confirm or refute. OK. And if you look in there, there's two numbers. There's the number of charge cycles that the battery has had. And then there is the capacity of the battery compared to what its full charge capacity is. And it's under power is what Brian Monroe in the chat room confirms for us. The chat room? What chat room are you talking about? Good call, macgeekyub.com slash stream. And you can join us there. And the chat room is a fantastic place from your perspective as the listener who's not in the chat room because these folks help make sure we're giving you the right information, which is awesome. So thank you, Brian Monroe. So, yeah, you have battery health information there. And it shows you the cycle count, the condition. But it will also show you your full charge capacity. There it is. And that will tell you, and in monitoring that number over time, we'll see how your battery is doing in general. And you can use a tool like Coconut Battery to really dig into this because it will compare it to what your battery came from the factory. The factory thing is not listed in that health scenario right there, right, John? Right. But also, fruit juice at some level will do that if you dig in. Sure. Hey, you're at x% of your maximum is at x% of the shipped, brand spanking new value. Right. And most people, I think, would agree that once that gets to 80%, that's probably a sign that you may want to get a new battery. That's Apple's sign for sure. But what's been really interesting over the last couple of years is that we've had folks send things in where their cycle counts are in the low dozens, I'll say. And still, with a battery that's years old because it's just been plugged in all the time, and their full charge capacity is still right at or very near the factory capacity. So the battery isn't degrading because it's been on charge all the time. Now, I'm kind of like you, Nick. I still get nervous about this. But I think those nerves are only fueled by the past, like the distant past. And certainly, if you've got a laptop that's more than about, I'll say, five years old, although that's probably more like seven at this point, then this probably still is true. But anything certainly in the last five years seems to be sort of, I don't want to say immune to this, but Apple has made some significant changes in both the hardware and software to keep this from being an issue. But if you are nervous about it, then your proposed plan is fine. Get some non-powered, maybe some of those portable docks that they make, and use those as your data distribution hub, if you will, and then have power come in via a different USB-C port if and when you want it. But there's nothing wrong with doing that. And it certainly will make sure that you don't run into this problem, but I think you probably won't anyway, based on what we know. So there you go. Yeah, well, I'm kind of shocked here because I'm looking at fruit juice right now. And so on my 2012, Dave, I'm at 7% of original capacity. You cut out for half a second. You're at 87, is that what you said? Correct. That's awesome. It reports I'm at 87% at 2611 of 1,000 charge cycles. That's crazy, man. That's awesome. As I use fruit juice, man. Yeah. I mean, yeah, like you, the thing is, as soon as my machine gets fully charged, I pull the power and let it run down to whatever. And then I'll start charging it again. Sure. And I think because I follow that regime, it's probably led to me getting such good numbers. Yeah, yeah, with the machine of that vintage, I would agree that I would do exactly what you're doing. That makes perfect sense. With my new one, I have been a little less careful. My new MacBook Air. And we'll see. But it's based mostly on our anecdotal listener reports. So if you folks are wrong and I am sharing the wrong advice, then, and I don't think you folks are wrong, but I will suffer as well. But yeah, how much battery life do you get out of a full charge on that, John? Just like generally speaking? Several hours. Like three to five kind of thing? Yeah, yeah, I'd say it's about right, depending on what I'm doing because, of course, it's all dependent upon, you know, I mean, are you connected to network shares? I mean, yeah, the more you're doing, the more it's going to drain the battery, whether it's doing Wi-Fi or Bluetooth or all that stuff there. Yeah, yeah, of course. Yeah, with my new one, I'm at like seven to 10, which is awesome. It's just it's great to be able to go a full day and, you know, not even think about it. It's a good world that we live in. I like it. Mm-hmm. All right. Going on to Irv. Irv asks, my wife and I both have iCloud accounts and each have our own separate Apple IDs and separate address books. Is it possible to merge the two address books to allow us to share a single address book? Is it possible to make a backup copy of her address book and somehow add it to mine? So those are two different questions, or at least I'm going to treat them as two different questions. And I'm going to start with the second one, both because that seems to be what we always do here on MacIka, but it's also where I would start, even if you were going to merge them together. And that is you want to make a backup. You want to have a copy of these things that is going to be untouched by whatever silliness we might suggest you do next. So on both Macs, you will do this. Going to Contacts, go to File, go to Export, and choose Contacts Archive. This will make a single file backup of your contacts. If this is way easier to deal with than something that's going to be buried in a time machine backup, I've done both. I've recovered from both. One, what I'm suggesting here with the Contacts Archive is all of about a 19 second process to restore from. Doing it from the time machine backup is maybe a 90 minute process by the time you dig in there and pull the data out and try and make sense of it and move your other data out of the way. You see where I'm going with this. If you know you're going to need a backup or even think you are, make one. So that's step one. Now, if you want to merge things without syncing that merged database, then you and your wife could just swap Contacts Backups, Contact Archives, and import them into your existing things. And boom, that will import things in. Contacts does a decent job of deduplication and detection and all that stuff. And then you're good to go. You've each got each other's contacts as of the moment that you exported them as far as syncing them. That gets a little interesting. The way to do it, it's doable though. And I know some people, I have some clients with my Dave the Nerd business that do this. It seemed strange when the first one asked me, but who am I to judge? You know, if it works for you, then totally fine. You turn off Contact Syncing in iCloud and then you create a new iCloud account and you only sync your contacts to that account. Yes, you can have two iCloud accounts on the same device and don't do mail, don't do calendars to this, don't do anything else, name it shared family member or whatever you want to do and have you both connect to that. Again, disable contact syncing from your main iCloud account and then yes, do contact syncing with this secondary iCloud account and only contact syncing with that. And then you're fine. Knowing, I know this sounds obvious, but knowing that any changes either of you makes to that contacts database will be shared and synced to the other. So if one of you deletes a contact, you both have it deleted. If one of you adds or changes a phone number, you both have that addition or change. But yeah, it's doable. So yeah, thoughts on that, Mr. Braun? I think I'm with you on that. Yeah, there are, if you do do contacts and things start going off the rails, keep in mind in the card menu, there is two selections that you may find handy. One is merge selected cards, which you may have to do if you're doing a, yep, if you're combining databases and they also have a look for duplicates feature. But I think as you pointed out, Dave, usually contacts is pretty good about not creating an infinite number of the same contact if you... It's pretty good. It's not perfect though, but that's pretty good. Those two features can come in handy if you feel that your contacts database is starting to go off the rails. Yep, yep. And even if you're just doing this on your own, if you've got a bunch of stuff you want to merge or whatever, do that file export contacts archive before you start. Like, yeah, it just is so much easier to recover from. I mean, the thing is that it's buried. I mean, you can dig into your, it's somewhere. I think it's in library contacts, if memory serves. Yeah, library contacts, but you don't want to get to that level and you don't need to if you do what my colleague said. I'm sorry, it's not library contacts. It is, huh. I thought it was in home library address book, but it's not there either. Right, because a lot of things still have the old naming convention. Yeah. So anyways, I'll poke around. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's there. Like, if things go sideways, you can definitely, you know, find it. It's just not, there's better things to do with your time. It's really what it comes down to. All right, now I need to know though, John. So I'm looking here. It is in home library application support address book. That's where these databases are stored. So there you go. Yeah. There's a lot of good stuff in there. Yep. And as Kiwi Graham in the chat room points out, you can also use this kind of multiple iCloud account thing to maintain multiple sets of contacts. You just need to be very diligent about where you assign them. When you add a new contact, you can choose for it to go in, you know, iCloud or wherever else you wanna put these things. And you get to choose that. You know, if you go to contacts preferences, accounts, you can see all the accounts that are there. And I don't know that I get to set here which one gets to be the default, but I know there's somewhere. So you can manage things. And if you in contacts, if you go to view show groups, that will open up a kind of a third pane to the left of your contacts list that will show all of your groups and all of your sources for your contacts. So bear that in mind too. So you could maintain like a shared contacts database for the people that you and your wife know and use in common. And then you could each still have your separate ones. That gets to be a little bit, you know, you just have to know what you're doing and know why you're doing it. That's sort of the trick. And speaking of iCloud, Dave, I actually just had to do something with iCloud. What'd you have to do? As you may have heard, Apple now requires what they call two-factor authentication if you have a developer account. Yeah, I still haven't done that with my developer account, but I need to, otherwise I can't log in to my developer account, so yeah. Well, what I did is actually created a new user for that purpose alone, because the Apple ID associated with my account is different from the Apple ID that I use for my everyday stuff. Same. Okay, so that's how you did it. I guess that's the only way to do it, right? Is you just, on one of your Macs, you create a separate user. The trick is though, when you do their two-factor, as I like to call it, two-step authentication. Yes, I think that's more correct. I think so, yeah. If it's using the normal path of sending a code to a logged in device, you won't ever get that code, right? So change it to use text messages as the authentication factor, which actually does make it two-step, which is kind of cool, or it does make it another factor, which is kind of cool. So that you can say log in in a web browser to your developer account, even if you're not logged into that account in iCloud on your Mac. It's all very confusing now. I mean, I get why they're doing it, and I think their assumption is, well, if you're a developer, you're gonna grok this stuff, so we're gonna err on the side of security, but still kind of a headache, so yeah. Did you do that? Did you set yours to do text messages or are you just? I just set up a new account, logged in, it asks for the authentication, and then it's like, oh, okay, you wanna trust this? And I'm like, yeah, sure, so I think I'm good. Yeah, so in order to log into your developer account on the web though, you have to use that second Mac OS account that you've created. Otherwise, it won't let you in, yeah, okay. Which is fine. Yeah, yeah, it's just, I mean, it's not convenient, right? Because if I'm in the middle of doing stuff and I have to log into my developer account to do something, I don't wanna have to switch accounts on my Mac to do that, which is why I'll do it with text message authentication so I can just, any web browser will let me in as long as I have my phone, so yeah. Speaking of SMS, do we have a bunch of tips about it? Well, we'll get there, yeah, we do, we have some SMS tips. Okay, because I got something to throw into the... Okay, yeah, for sure, yep. There's a lot of the SMS, although it's ancient. That's just for everything. Yeah, well, everybody has it now. It's ancient, except now it's like everybody's got it. It's also ubiquitous, so yeah. Of course, there's also something called MMS, we'll get to that later. For sending images, right, yeah, exactly. All right, we do have a geek challenge though from listener Brian who says, I have a handful of pieces of information that I need to pull up on a regular basis for my own reference. For example, I serve on a couple of boards and keep a list of the names of the members of each board and their respective responsibilities. He says, I would love to have an app that sits in the taskbar and I could click and maybe have a dropdown list right there of my six or eight little text snippets, whatever you wanna call them, that has all this information right there. So I have other apps like Drafts and Bear that I use for collecting text for future, but nothing that he's found that has something that can just contain this list. I mean, what he's describing is what a lot of, I think what the initial intention for the stickies app was. That's a little clunky in its UI and I get why he would want like a menu bar type dropdown just to keep things nice and tidy and clean. Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything like this which is why I called it a geek challenge. I'm hoping somebody out there can send something in and tell us about it unless you know, John, but feedback at macgeekgab.com is where we would like to hear about that from. So do you have any thoughts on this? I would concur that feedback at macgeekgab.com is where you should send your suggestions, Dave. Right, well, and also feedback at macgeekgab.com is a good place to go. Yeah, of course. Actually, yeah. I mean, off the top of my head here, Dave, I mean, notes is probably, I use notes for a similar purpose in that it's spread across all my devices. Am I missing something? I mean, you're missing that it's more. I mean, it's not a database. Well, I mean, it is, but not in that sense. What he wants is just some dropdown so that it's accessible right there. I mean, I guess he could create favorite notes. You make a table and notes, right? Make a note supports tables and stuff right now or you could cut and paste the data there. So it's not an ideal solution, but it's it's. Yeah, it's doable. Yeah, the price is right. It's just I use for data that I need to access from any of my devices. In a lot of cases, I'll create a note for it and the flexibility of what it can do. I mean, before it was just taxed. Now it can do tables and images and all that great stuff. So we want to consider that. All right. I think fixed on 66 in the chat room has the answer. And we've talked about this on the show before. It's called Unclutter at Unclutter app.com. And it does exactly this. You can have little snippets. You can see your clipboard. You can see files. This might in fact be the thing. That's a good. Yeah, that's good. All right, I'll put a link in the show notes for that. If anybody else has something else, please share. Yeah. All right, John, while we are on the list, the subject of things that we would like to have. Listener Mike says, I'm looking for a great Mac app that will monitor, upload and download internet bandwidth usage on my Mac. It needs to be able to monitor cumulative usage, not just since the Mac was last restarted. I'm guessing he didn't say this, but I'm guessing he has some sort of bandwidth limitations or something on his broadband connection and is looking to track his Mac's bandwidth usage. Any thoughts on that, my friend? Absolutely. I'm glad you got to this question. I'll tell you my answer. Okay. If he's talking for a specific machine. Yes. Maybe no. But if he's talking cumulative. And that's what caught my attention when I read this question here. An SNMP utility may be what you're looking for if your router supports it. Yeah. And there is one that I found here called, and I'll copy and put it in our room here and I'll put it in our show notes here, but there is something called SNMP test utility and this is exactly what it does. If your router supports it, it can query and it'll show you in a pretty little graph the bandwidth that your router has been using up and down. I think is what he's looking for. Yeah. But unfortunately, and it makes me sad here, is that I ran it and at least in my setup, it appears that Eero does not support SNMP. Yeah, I would say that. It's a simple network management protocol and the thing is Apple used to support that on their routers until the very last ones. They used to support this functionality. We would say, hey, how much data have you sent and received as of late? So, yeah, I mean, it makes me sad because vendors could offer the support but it depends on your router. So you may wanna look at this utility to see if that'll help you out here. Because I think it'll also, I'm not sure. I think it may proactively tell you, hey, and there could be other utilities that do this as well. But I think the only way you can really do that is through a utility that talks to your router and uses this. Yeah, no, I agree with that. In order to know what your network is using, yes. I think there are some utilities that will show this for your Mac but where that gets a little bit squirrely is let's say your Mac is streaming a movie to your Apple TV. Well, that's going to be bandwidth going out from your Mac but it's not leaving your network and so it's not using your internet connection. So your solution of using some way of monitoring at the router level is much better. Of course, as you pointed out, Eero and most consumer routers don't let you do that these days. So that's not really gonna help for most people I don't think. You're right, Apple's routers used to, but that's not... I mean, the other thing is, I mean, this probably isn't a great solution. I mean, Activity Monitor will show network activity, though I don't know... Not cumulatively, yeah. I mean, I'm looking here and network and it shows data received and data sent. Yeah, but not over reboots. Right, okay. But he wants to know over the course of a month, there is something called Bandwidth Plus that I'm finding in the Mac App Store that might do this or it says it will do this but I haven't used it. So it is free though. So maybe that's worth testing. And... You can also just ditch your provider though, that's... If you can. Right, yeah, yeah. So I'll put that link out there. But if anybody knows, yeah, please let us know. And if you already know the email addresses, but if you're a premium listener, of course, premium at mackeedcab.com, so. And also check your router. A lot of routers keep this data on their own and expose it in their interfaces. So depending on your router, you may already be able to see this information and that can be really handy. I'm glad you said that because you know, you and I have talked about smart routers and I have what I'll consider a smart router. Yep. It does have a screen that shows the amount of network traffic on each port. Okay. So you can see how much you've used. Like does it, I guess my question is, is it easy for you to say in the last week I've used X amount of my internet bandwidth? I don't think so. I think with the Eero what you're seeing is what each device has used inside your network. My TP link. So the TP link has a status screen that shows on each port. Now it's only physically wired ports. Okay. Okay. But no, no. Now that I think about it, my Eero is plugged into that. So I mean it shows the number of packets that you've sent and received. That may be another solution. Getting the router that reports this information, but some do not basic switches, or I'm sorry, switches. Yeah, not your basic router. But showing me the amount of data that it's pumped through it since it was last restarted. So, of course now I'm looking and I think I've got to talk to their software people because it's showing me certain values have a negative, which last I checked, sending a negative amount of data is pretty difficult. Yeah, it doesn't work. Yeah. Sorry. It's not like the electric company where you can use your solar panels to pump stuff back into the system and get a credit. Yeah, it doesn't work that way. Yeah, I think I'm gonna have to, I think I'm gonna have to update my firmware because that's definitely, oh my gosh, there's like four negative values that they show on their list here. Okay, nevermind. I know like the Netgear gaming routers and I can't think of the model off the top of my head but which one it, maybe the XR700, is that the one that I tested most recently? I think it is. Yeah, that one has it, but their Nighthawk Pro gaming routers definitely will maintain and show you your bandwidth and even send you a warning when you're approaching a limit that you can set. Actually, now that I think about it, it's not just their gaming routers. I think most of their standalone routers have that in the software. So maybe a Netgear router is in Mike's future. So yes, indeed. All right, let's see, where are we at here? You know, I wanna take a second minute here, John, and talk about our second sponsor, which is LinkedInJobs at LinkedIn.com slash MGG. So as a small business owner, I can say this and it is so true that making the right hire is critical for your business, right? Because if you hire the wrong person, it can actually destroy your business. It can change the culture of your company. You do not wanna make the wrong hire. You wanna make sure you bring in people that are gonna make your business better. And LinkedInJobs makes it super easy to get matched with quality candidates who make the most sense for your role, right? 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Surely and stop calling me surely. I know, I know. I couldn't resist. I couldn't resist. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I know. I just watched Airplane the other night, so. Really? My son had never seen it. So it was. Oh my gosh. I know, right? Yeah. I mean, it's almost a requirement. And it would be like. That's why we watched it. Part of the cold kids. Right, yeah, yeah. All right, some tips. Ben shares a quick tip. He says I normally use calendar and week view on my Mac and navigate to next or previous weeks with command plus right or command plus left. He says I just discovered that adding option to this shortcut shifts the calendar one day at a time. This can be super handy, folks, for seeing a week that's not just running, you know, Sunday to Monday or whatever it is. Sometimes you want to see Wednesday to Tuesday or something like that. This lets you do that. Says you can find the modified command in the view menu. These commands are normally next and previous with option held down in the view menu. They become next alternate and previous alternate. He says I tested this in day, month and year views and the modified command doesn't seem to have a different effect. So it's only really special in week view. Says I find it useful as I sometimes want to compare two days that are within a week of each other but in adjacent weeks like last Friday and this Wednesday. So there you go. Thank you so much, Ben. This is what I love about quick tips. Great stuff. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Pretty cool, huh, John? Quick. Yeah. So listener Mark finds a tip that's, you know, sort of the anti cool stuff found. It's a fish shake. Yeah. Is it a fish shake or a finger rag? Yeah. I'm not sure what level we're at here. He says it's whatever it is, it's about crash plan which Mark says was previously a well respected cloud backup. He says as most people know, they got rid of their consumer level service but have a small business service for 10 bucks a month per device. He says this was worth it to me until my wife got a new MacBook Air and we had problems with time machine so I decided to download a restore from crash plan. It turns out you can only download 250 megabytes at a time. When I called support and asked them what kind of crash this was supposed to help with, they said that larger downloads would back up their system. They created a ticket for me which said that I'd be called within two business days. Several days later in no call I received another email asking why I haven't responded to the customer service ticket. Not only is their service essentially worthless as a protection against catastrophic data loss but their customer support is now equally worthless. I will be dropping them like a hot potato. He says luckily we had done carbon copy cloner backups over data. Can't have enough backups. So then he says without you guys I wouldn't have been so well equipped to handle this problem. So many thanks. Well you're welcome and I'm glad. That's what we do here. That's why we do it. So you know this is, but this is interesting, right? Cause we always say have backups but more than that we say test your restore, right? Make sure that you know how to restore your data from a backup because you don't wanna be figuring that out when the proverbial stuff has hit the fan. You wanna sort of know what you're doing. I don't think I can add to that advice and test by downloading everything. But it sure seems like I should add that to our advice but we really, that's unrealistic John. So the question is at least know what your provider will let you download. To my knowledge, Backblaze will let you download everything. Crash plan as it turns out has a limit. So and Backblaze according to Brian Monroe in the chat room says they will even send you a hard drive if you need it. If your download speeds aren't fast enough to slurp down your data in a reasonable time, you can have them image it onto a hard drive and I think you have to buy the drive from or send it back but whatever it is, they'll send you your data on a drive so you can get a FedEx to you or whatever. So yeah, good catch there Mark. I'm glad you didn't get caught and I'm especially glad that you shared this with us so that hopefully no one listening will get caught by this. So there you go. Good. Yeah, I know. Same thing back when I was looking at cloud services I think box.com also had a limitation and that they wouldn't, if you were a cheapskate like me, they wouldn't allow you to transfer files over a certain size and it's just like, dude. Then again, you know, I mean, you get what you pay for. Right. Yeah, but with crash plan, he was paying like that. Like this wasn't the chief service. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, they're just tightening up there. Yeah, and it's I don't know that I'm into that. Not good. Not good. All free market, you know, I mean. Yeah, exactly, right. Go somewhere else. No, and that's what Mark is going to do. The part that sucks is now he has to upload all that data again that he, you know, ceded to crash plan. So, you know, another mark has a bit of advice. He says the best computer advice anyone ever gave me, other than don't get caught, of course, he says, was this, don't run any computer program continuously. Always exit the app every now and then. I couldn't agree more with this advice. Mac OS gets weird. It apps start leaking memory, even if they're like, especially perhaps if they are, you know, apps use all the time like Safari is terrible at this. Like this is great advice. I use an app called quitter from Marco Arment and it's available for free, which is awesome at Marco dot org slash apps. And I have it set. You can set it. It's really cool. You can set it to either hide or quit an app after that app has not been used for a specified period of time. So you could be using your computer, doing other things. If you haven't touched whatever that app is, it will quit it. So for Safari, for example, I have it set to 120 minutes. It's rare that I don't use Safari for two hours, except after I've left my desk for the day. And so I know that when I come to my office in the morning, Safari has quit and I'm at least restarting Safari once a day. Makes a huge difference. And I do the same thing with other apps and then things that that, you know, I open like preview where I'll open it and do something and then forget that it's open. I have that set the 30 minutes that, you know, get rid of it, quit it. I'm fine. I'll come back to it if I need to. It's no big deal. But yeah, highly recommended good stuff. And you can also use if you're using app tamer from St. Clair software, it has that same sort of functionality in it. So if you've got that and you're using it for other things, then app tamer is perfect for that, too. So do you use any of these apps, John? No. OK. Do you do it all school? You do it all. OK. All right. So it's you do it. I mean, I'll rotate through the apps, you know, with Command Tab, which has everybody knows. But if you don't, let's you go through apps running on your Mac. And then if you highlight one and you, I believe it's and Q it, it kills it off. Yeah. So I will do that on occasion to free things up because if you're not using an app, I have to take up resources. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And sometimes be disastrous as you pointed out. It's like, well, even before we were starting to show up here, you're like audio hijack was like like consuming like massive amounts of something. And it's like, OK, let's quit it. Let's quit it. Start up again, right? Yeah, no. And you know what it is? It's that I this is not the first podcast I've recorded today. I did my gig gap podcast for musicians earlier. And normally I quit my apps in between those two sessions. Today I did not. And, you know, I was paying that price. And so, you know, I quit it. And now it was using like 60 percent of my CPU or something. It was like, it was not OK. And now audio hijack is at 20 percent doing exactly the same thing. I had it. So I thought I think you also did one. Didn't you do something across the pond? Oh, I did earlier this week. That's right. Yeah. I did chat across the pond with with Alison Sheridan. I'll put a link in the show notes. Yeah, we we talked about mesh and just routers in general. Yeah. Yeah. No, I saw that. And yeah, yeah, I'd figure you're you're probably one of the more informed people about mesh technology. I try to be. Yeah, you know, so I thought I'd plug that. But thank you. Yeah, yeah, that's great. Yeah. All right. A couple more tips, actually gobs and gobs more tips because that seems to be what we're doing here. Rand has one and speaking of inactivity says it appears there is a setting in the edit menu in key chain access that allows the key chain to or allows you to set the key chain's lock interval. And and he stumbled on this because his computer kept asking him to authenticate and it was driving him crazy. And somehow in the I think it was the migration to Mojave or something. This got set. So if you go into key chain access and you highlight, say, your login key chain, although you can do this with all of your key chains and you go to I think it's the I can actually pull it up. Can I it's the file menu and go to Oh, where is it, John? I always do it by right clicking on the key chain. Oh, it's in the edit menu change settings for key chain login. There's a little checkbox there that says lock after X minutes of inactivity. And if that box is checked, then your key chain will lock after X minutes of inactivity and you will have to unlock it in order to do anything that requires the key chain on your Mac. So this can be a handy thing, but it's also just one of those things that's worth knowing about so that it doesn't drive you crazy. Any thoughts on that, John? The only thing I'll mention is that when I first saw this question, I was going to direct our friend to an article. It turns out it wasn't the correct response, but it may be it may help someone else. But Apple has a dandy article called if your Mac keeps asking for the logging key chain password. Oh, which I thought was what was happening. And this could be useful sometimes because, you know, things go awry when you make a yeah, you do an upgrade. Huh, all right, cool. Well, yeah, we'll put that link in the show notes. That's great. Apple has one. But sometimes, again, things go bad and you may actually have to get to the level. And I think that this was the speculation on their part was. You may actually have to create a new key chain or do a recent something like that. That's that makes me kind of jumpy. I've I've not had to do that. I don't know if you ever have. Dave, I I've done it. Yeah, I've done it certainly for others when helping them. I can't I know I had some key chain problem years ago. I may have had to do this. I can't remember. But but yes, I mean, it like that is an option. It's sort of a mess having to do that. But I mean, sometimes that's just got to do. So yeah, because I guess the key the passwords for the key chain and your account get out of sync. And then it's like confused. And so anyway, so sometimes changing your system password can help solve that because right. Because when you change your password, it goes and rewrites your password to your login key chain to sync all that up. And that can actually solve that problem. So that that's another one of those things. I'd forgotten about that. Yeah, yeah. Cool. Lauren, we were talking many, many episodes ago. Well, not that many, but maybe 20 episodes or so ago about various cloud solutions. And in terms of syncing PDFs, and Lauren says, guys, you were seriously overthinking this with PDFs. The answer, of course, is Acrobat. Their free reader is available on all platforms. And with a free Adobe account, you can save any PDFs you open in Acrobat inside Adobe's free document cloud. You can specify you can specifically save a document to the cloud. But if you navigate to the document cloud from Acrobat, it will even show you recently viewed documents that weren't specifically uploaded. So that can be a good thing or a bad thing. Just bear that in mind. It's going to do that. He says the system is crazy, easy to use. I don't know exactly how much free storage get in Adobe's document cloud, but it's a lot. I have hundreds of PDFs uploaded for instant access anywhere. It's enough to wean me off of preview on my Mac because it's just so convenient. And did I mention it's completely free? Thanks, Lauren. That's that's good to know. I hadn't hadn't even thought about that as an option, which is what I love doing this show. Yeah, I'm kind of baffled. That Adobe's offering something for free. I know, right? Well, especially because most most most people view a lot of these, you know, migration to cloud services is kind of a cash grab. So, hey, Adobe. Yeah, no, it's it's I agree with you. Yeah, no, it's great. OK, let's see. Where are we now, John? Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. Let's see. We are at Jeff. So in Mac iCab 750, we talked about deleting the contents of a folder hierarchy without actually deleting the hierarchy, without deleting the folders and all of that stuff. And we came up with a terminal command eventually that would allow us to do this. Listener Jeff came up with sort of a or found sort of a different solution. He says, I found an Apple script that doesn't do that, but it does copy and paste a folder structure without the files that are in it handy. If you use the same structure for different projects and this might work for folks that were curious. And so he sent us a link to the YouTube video that explains exactly how to do this. So we'll put that in the show notes. So thank you very much, Jeff. That's good stuff. I love it. I love it when we get follow ups like this, don't you, John? Indeed. Thoughts on this one before we. No, it's a. Hey, it's a different vector into solving the problem. It's a different vector into solving the problem. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. Indeed, you know, we have a bunch of tips from the last episode here, like a crazy amount. One tip I'm going to give you is our third sponsor, which is TextExpander, where at TextExpander.com slash podcast, you can like I talk about utilities that are invaluable to me and I can't live without. 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And it just took you a long time to do that. Well, what TextExpander lets you do is you do that finally crafting and then you put that in TextExpander. And the next time you have to send that same email response you just either invoke it with a click of a mouse or you type a little shortcut that expands into it. Hence TextExpander and boom, this perfectly crafted reply of yours is ready to go. And guess what? You don't have to proofread it. You don't have to look at it. You don't have to worry because it's your reply. This syncs to all of your devices. If you're on a team with others, the replies or the snippets sync to everyone. Really, really handy stuff. And I use it for all kinds of things that I do either on a recurring basis and or that I don't want to get wrong. I mean, I don't want to get anything wrong. But things like addresses, especially when, you know, somebody says, oh, some of your address so I can send you this thing. It's like, OK, I got to type it out. I got to format it right. I got to make sure I get the zip code and put the space and the thing and the common. No, I just type, you know, D H A D D and it boom, it blasts out my address. Or if somebody says, hey, I want to send you and John something. Boom. J B A D D. Boom. I don't even put the F in there because I'm so efficient and I know that it's John Braun, right? So because he's John F. Braun to you. And that's how it works. Text Expander is fantastic for all of this and more. You got to check it out. So go to TextExpander.com slash podcast where you can get 20 percent off of your first year's subscription. Again, that's TextExpander.com slash podcast are thanks to the folks at TextExpander for sponsoring this episode. Very cool stuff. OK, more tips from 750. I promised we were talking about SMS, John. And boy, howdy, did we get a lot of responses about this? So we'll see if we can pull them all together here. Scott says, like Jeremy, I am involved with my kid's Boy Scout troop. And we happen to have just started setting up and using a tool called TroopWebHost.org, which allows us to do everything needed to manage a scout troop. And he says they offer Cub Scouts, Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, which is great. TroopWebHost.com, dough.org. OK, this is one feature of this tool is that it allows us to send mass email and mass SMS messages. The interesting thing on SMS is that each person needs to input their cell phone number, of course, that makes sense, and their carrier. Then the system will now have what it needs to send the mass SMS. Says, I don't know what service it uses, but I think it might just be using email. The reason I think this is because the number and carrier it fills in a way that they call the SMS text message address. And the data looks like phone number at txt.att.net for AT&T folks or phone number at messaging.sprintpcs.com or phone number at vtext.com. This is very, very cool. He says, I tested by sending myself on an email. I'm at AT&T and the message came from a 410 area code number, but it worked. So all Jeremy needs to do is identify each person's carrier and find out the stuff that comes after the at sign. And they can use email to send mass text messages, which is pretty cool. So that's one way to do it. I think using something like Troop Web host would be way easier. But, you know, there you go. But the dovetail on that. Yeah. So I found an article here at LifeWire, Dave, OK, which builds upon this. And the title of the article is SMS gateway from email to SMS text messages. And basically, the article said what you said, but the thing is they do. So they list the email suffixes that are used for sending not only SMS, but what some may call MMS. So SMS is text only. MMS allows you to send multimedia. Sure, I guess it's multimedia system. But this has a dandy little table of all of the email addresses. So one solution could be, if you know the cell phone number of your recipients, you create a little email list with that. And that'll do it for you. Let me paste that in our room here. Yeah. And the nice part about that is it would not send this group message that everybody can reply to and get really noisy with. It's just like a one way broadcast. That's pretty good. I like it. Now, the only thing that came to my mind when I heard this was I don't know if you've seen the film taken, but it was like, if you have my cell phone number and you text me relentlessly without pause, I will find you and I will maybe not kill you. But we will have a conversation. I will not like you anymore. Yeah. And I don't know. Actually, I've been pretty good lately about not getting. I mean, we all get SMS spam, I think. I don't get too much of it, to be honest. AT&T is really good about filtering that stuff out. Yeah. Right. And the thing is most providers and actually I've done this is that if you get a spam SMS, you can. Submit it to the your provider and they will they will filter it, which I think is why we're running into this. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. It's not as much of a problem as it is with like getting spam phone calls, which the AT&T also does a great job with that. So with their call protectors, I still, you know, I still get ones, Dave, where it comes up on my phone and the first six digits of the number are the same as mine because they know. Oh, it's somebody I know. Let me pick up the call. And the thing is invariably if I pick it up, it either times out because it doesn't hear a response from me or does but yeah, that that's a common tack. Yeah, I think sure I was doing all this stuff. Well, if you're if you're an AT&T customer, I highly recommend you download their free call protect app and turn that service on. They have two levels of service, but the free one is what I use. And it's it like it really makes a difference. I'll go with I'm Verizon. Yeah, no, I'm just saying for our listeners. Right. Right. Yeah. And Verizon may have one too. I should actually. I think they do. We've talked about them all in the show here before. Yeah. I'm back on the SMS thing and I will I will say that, you know, again, it's, you know, it's just a tool, right? You can use it for good or for evil. And I know it like I really like, for example, our local school system has an SMS alert. And so this morning when they chose to cancel school, they send out. I get it as both an email and an SMS and by no means do I ever allow them to call me because I don't need my phone to I don't need my phone to to ring at five in the morning when they've decided to cancel school. I can find out whenever I wake up and look and OK, great, no problem. And so I but I can wake up and see an SMS and it's like right there. So it's like it's super handy. OK, so listener Chris says just on the list of services here for bulk SMS and voice messages and emails, he says in the USA, we use a service called Call them all. We use it to blast SMS messages out to our congregants when services are canceled due to weather. So this is a this is very similar to what I just described our school using. We don't use that. They don't use that. They use like school messenger or something. But but it does that like you can your your folks on your list can choose to get a call or an email or an SMS, which is great. So thank you, Chris, for sending that in. And then similarly, Carl, but also Sam and I think a few others sent in a note saying that they do the same thing with remind dot com to handle this. So he says his organizations that his kids belong to use it, he says he gets reminders and things like that from his kids golf groups and swim teams and all of that stuff. So remind dot com certainly seems like an option there, too. So thank you for that, everyone. And I think that ends our SMS tips, but it doesn't end our tips, John. We have lots more tips, lots more tips. But, you know, before we share these tips and oh, we will share these tips, I want to thank all of our premium subscribers who contributed this week. On the my annual $25 every six month plan, we have Jonathan C. As I said, if I don't know where you're from because you're a PayPal person and we don't have that data, then I can't say where you're from. But Jonathan C. Bartek from London, Eric from Trondheim, Jim from California, Rob from Minnesota, Randall S. Bruce from Colorado, Robert from Arizona, Matt from Virginia, Daniel from London, Jeff S. Doug S. No relation. Brian from Tennessee and Anthony from New South Wales. New South Wales. Thank you to all of you. 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In the last episode, we were talking about somebody suggested using the temporary Mac cloning from from if you needed. Like I use the example in my, you know, in a college dorm room, you might want to set up a router there so you would have your router clone, say your laptop's Ethernet Mac address so that when you plug that in, it's just automatically approved. That's a cool thing. John had another way of going about it. It says, I found the easier and more permanent way to do it is to temporarily, instead of changing the router's Mac address in that example, change your Mac's Mac address to the Mac address of the router or whatever it is, whatever hardware it is that you want to add. And he says, you can do this for wired or wireless devices. Once you get the interface, once you get the name of the interface, you want to change, look up and save the current Mac from the current network settings, then go to the command line and enter this command that starts with sudo if config. We'll put the command in the show notes and it says, then go through the approval process. Once you're finished, revert to your Mac's original Mac address and plug in the device you just authorized. The system should be none the wiser. So that's pretty good. That's pretty good. So we'll put that in the show notes. That's a great idea. Yeah. I'm just wondering if some sophisticated network intrusion, blah, blah, device would be able to figure out that you're trying to pull one over on them. Probably not. Yeah, how would they know? I mean, it just identifies by Mac address. That's it. Yeah, I'm just wondering if you have a Mac address and also have another factor to authenticate yourself to the network, if it sees a discrepancy between like, oh, OK, well, here's Mac address submitting this password. And then here's, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, probably not a big concern. But yeah, my concern would be like for taking my daughter's scenario, for example, if she wanted to add a router there, the prescribed method is you call IT, you give them the Mac address of the router, and then they let it on board. And the same would be true if you want to use your Xbox or anything else like that, right? Doing it this way would get it approved. But how often do they require you to reauthenticate that device, right? Whereas if they put it in the system, do they sort of flag it and say, don't ask this device to reauthenticate? Because it's no big deal if they require you to reauthenticate your laptop like once a week. Like, whatever. Oh, yeah, I just got to re-log in. OK, yep, yep, everything's good. Well, if that's your router, that starts becoming a little bit of a chore to have to do this rigmarole all the time. So, yeah. Again, I'm just thinking on the device level, some tools may be able to say, hey, that looks kind of wacky. Hey, you know, try it. I mean, the worst that can happen is that they'll detect it and then you got to own up. Then, yeah, exactly right. Then you got to make that phone call. Yeah, yeah, I don't know what happened. We talked in the last episode about actually the last couple of episodes about printing multiple documents all at once. And we've gotten even more tips about this. So I'm thinking we might have now exhausted all the different options. With these last two. So Steven says, you can also simply select the documents in the Finder and hit Command P, which will send them straight to your default printer, much quicker and easier than the solution mentioned on the show. And he says it works with Pathfinder too. And that's true. Then actually, when we first started talking about it, it was like, oh, that's what I normally do. But the issue with that is if you happen to have the wrong stuff selected, like, I don't know, I've messed this up more times than not. So I actually didn't choose to just like bring this up right at the front. But Steven is right. Like this is doable. It just, I don't know. It just always felt a little wonky to me whenever I've done it. But maybe, maybe that's just me. So that's that one. And then Ward and Nick, and I believe several others, sent in another way of doing this, John. And that is, he says Ward writes, so I print a lot of files at once. And what I did is drag the printer from the settings to the taskbar to the dock. And he says you can drag most anything to the dock. And once it's there, you can actually drag and drop your files right onto the icon. You don't even need to open it up and drag them into the window. Just drag a file onto the printer's dock icon and it'll put it in the print queue and you're good to go. So thank you, everyone, for all of that. Good, good stuff. Any thoughts on this craziness here, John? No, no, I like that. Yeah, for those that still print on Deadwood, that's a good thing, no. Yeah, we keep a lot of some things we keep as paper files in the office. And of course, my kids need to print all the time. So for school and all that sort of thing. So it's handy, it's handy. It's printing. You could print? Hey, you could even typeset. Yeah, yeah, I don't know that other than like when I've gone to places like Sturbridge Village or whatever, I don't know that I've ever done actual typesetting in a productive way. So I thought it was a good movie. So Cook Tangent, but I just watched The Post, which I thought was a good movie and it has good actors. But the thing is, they showcase typesetting used for making newspapers, which I understand they still do that. Yeah, I guess that's true, right? I'm trying to think. Did I ever see that? And another tangent is, you know, our buddy Glenn Fleishman is actually sponsoring. He's actually doing Kickstarter, which reached its limit, I think he called it like a tiny type museum. I just thought it was fascinating because I guess he and a lot of others in our world, journalists, if you consider us journalists, would do typesetting. I mean, it was part of the process. And actually, Well, it's part of our history. I've never done it, but yeah, yeah, fair. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But in the movie itself, it was just amazing to look at the, they so accurately depicted what was involved in building the type and, you know, the little metal bits. And it was just like, oh, my gosh, all the work that went into making a newspaper. And I guess still is involved in making newspaper, though, I think now it's a more laser than a mechanical technology. But it's just fascinating. Yeah. Yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. Cool. All right. Well, I'll put a link to Glenn's thing, even though I know it's funded and all that stuff, which is great. So cool. Yeah, but bless from the past. I mean, yeah, for sure, for sure. I don't know that we have anything else. Does it make sense? No. You know what? I think we're good. I think we've are we. I was going to say, I think we've exhausted everything I'm exhausted, which means, you know, something, I don't know, I don't know what it means, but it means something. So there you go. I think it's good. We got a bunch of questions, a bunch of tips. We shared a cool stuff found. We shared a not cool stuff found. I learned something. We are like, like how much you know, there you go, right? I learned something. We all did. That's how it goes. I I learned like putting all these questions together every week. Like there's no way I couldn't learn at least five new things. It's just freaking awesome. I love it. I love it. I really do. And so thank you to everybody for listening and sending in all your stuff. It really like it's crazy that we get to do this every week. And I don't just mean me and John. 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