 It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, it's a unique hustle, it's your boy, E-CEO, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Miss Jamaica. What's going on? None of them a day all going. Man, hey, man, we got a special guest in here today, man. We actually up here in Vegas, man. We bumping into Jules, man. These guys up here, man. These guys getting it too, man. So, Boss Talk 101, we pulled up on the scene, man. We got some guys just ready, man, ready to interview, been putting in work for a long time. You done seen them with everybody, man. Hey, my guy here now, man. Kid Earl in the building. What's going on, baby? Yes, sir. Yes, sir. You dig. 17, shit. Slime. First off, I want to, you know, shout out to Melvin Farmer for this opportunity to get me on a Boss Talk. It's lit. I'm on the anchor monitor. I'm over here scared of shit thinking I'm about to go to jail. For real, I'm not supposed to be in no casinos. If I go to jail, I mean, I get out at like two days. Oh, man. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I get it, man, but you had waves already in a day. Just talk about, let's talk about, first of all, Kid Earl. Who is Kid Earl? Like, I'm talking about where you're from, you know, all this feel, man. Who was Kid Earl before Kid Earl? Wow, you go all the way back. So, like, I'm originally from South Carolina. Okay. I've been to Myrtle Beach, my hometown. Beautiful. Then moved to Florida, you know, for a little bit. And then my mom had work, so I came out here. So, before the Earl ever came and the Kid Earl, I was just like a regular person in eighth grade getting bullied. Straight A student? Nah. Nah. Hell, I was like there, like, people didn't like me. I was born in the South, you feel me? Why they didn't like you? What's up? Not a popular kid because what? I was going black kid in school back in 2011, 2012. Racially. Yeah. Okay. So, they made me sit by myself. So, to the point after that, I moved out here. And then my step-brother is Frank Ocean. Okay. So, that's when I started, like, linking up with Tyler, the creator. And then Niggas started to be like, bro, you look like Earl Sweatshirt. And then everybody started calling me Earl Jr., you feel me? Because I was the second Earl Sweatshirt by Earl Jr. So, that's where I got, you know, Earl from because I used to skate. I never did rap in none of that. I was like, bro, my sister rapped. I was like, I mean, you're never going to rap. So, you only have one sibling and sister? Nah, I got seven. How many siblings? Different mom and dad? Almost, yeah. Almost. Almost everybody. Yeah, me and my older sister, different dads. My little brother, my two little brothers and my one sister. Same dad and then my other brothers. So, were you raised with your mom and dad? Or just your mom? Just my mom. Just your mom? Yeah, my dad. Did you know him? Nah, but you know what's crazy? He found me, like, before I went to prison. Oh, he found you? He found me before I went to prison. Really? How was that like? That shit was weird. I was like, what? So, he just walked up to you and said, I'm your dad? He had a white boy. They were in constriction. It was a white dude right at me up. He was like, hey, I'm friends with your dad. And me growing up and growing up in a lot of schools, every person, every guy that I went to school with, was like your woo woo woo son. And I was like... He must look like him. Why they keep asking? Nah, bro, so many people said they was my dad. It was a... I was like, really? I was like, hell no, like, you feel me? So, I actually found my... He found me in... He was supposed to come to one of my shows in Florida because he stayed in Florida. So, your mama verified that it really is your dad? Yeah, she verified that for shows. She was like, yeah, that's your dad. My dad is dark as shit. I'm like, bro, I am... So, your mama must be light skinned. My mama white. Okay, that's why. That's why. I think I should have become a little darker. So, let's talk about you going to prison, man. What did you... Can you talk about it a little bit? Yeah, I can talk about it a little bit. So, what happened? Oh, man. I live a crazy life. You feel me? So, you feel me? They said... The most craziest thing is I've been getting harassed. I press the lawsuit. Okay. And because they always just stalk me. I got PTSD. I get in police chases and all, and I be beating them. I be like, fuck, bro. Yeah. And so, like, they was kind of mad because I ain't never had a job. You feel me? So, I was always getting money. It was never like robbing and stealing or anything like that. So, they was always like, okay, where's this money coming from? So, they sort of planted charges on me because... They couldn't figure it out. They couldn't figure it out. And they kept fucking with me. You feel me? So, that's why we pressed the lawsuit. After that, bro, they said I robbed nine police officers by myself. Wow. I'm five. Like, back in 2019, I was like five, six. You feel me? Being in jail, working on this shit grew like an inch. Yeah. Yeah. You're like, anxious. So, I'm like, bro, how about five, six, nine police officers? That sounds... Five, six. You supposedly robbed... That's what they... They trumped those types. Yeah. Those type of charges, what got you sent up? Yeah, like, so, I beat it. And then, it was a fucked up story. Because the nine police officers, I didn't do. You feel me? Of course. That's a fact. That's 100% a fact. But I got on probation for having to police that. That's a setup, ain't it? You had a police badge? That's a setup, that probation. Yeah. So, after being... Five days being on probation, they motherfucker locked me up. Really? Because you violated probation. I violated probation for... My mom's a felon. Okay. And you ain't supposed to be around your mom? Uh-uh. Ain't on top of that. They threw that case that I beat back on me. That was the first thing they violated me for. Like, oh, you got a warrant for your arrest. But when they released you and you're on probation, where did they release you to? Where did they allow you to go to? They let me go to my mom's house because I was never really staying out here. I was always in LA. But if they allowed you to go to your mom's house but knowing that your mom was a felon, how... That's what I said. Yeah. It was a setup. It was a setup. So, my mom, the whole time, they was fucking with me. They sent this to me to 180 days. That's six months. Mm-hmm. They made me do eight months. Called me back five days before going home and was like, you know what? We're just going to revoke your probation and send you to prison for two years. I just did eight months. And I'm supposed to be going home in five days. My release date is five days. They like, you know what? We're just going to revoke your probation. And they told everybody to get out the court. Like, they told everybody to get out the court. And then they said that. Wow. I was like, wow. The only thing I can think about is like, what kind of lawyer you had? I'm like, if you had a really good lawyer... I did. So, my first lawyer, she makes the statues for the state. Okay. So, me being in so many cases, because like, it's like, I've been through so much. It's like... At such a young age. At a young age. Like, I wish I could just talk more but I'm still fighting the case. You feel me? Mm-hmm. Like, so it's like, shit, I really got to leave out. For sure. And that's understandable. We only want to hear about, you know... What you can say. What you can talk about. Because ain't nobody trying to do nothing to get... Enough of us getting in trouble. We ain't trying to... Exactly. So, some experiences in prison, though. Getting stabbed in the knee. What was the craziest thing to happen when you was in there? That you seen? That happened to me was just a stab in the knee but the shit I seen... I was like, they had me... I couldn't go to camp. I couldn't go to nowhere. They had me maximum security. I'm 20 years old. Like, this time, like, 21. Were you fighting in there or something? No. So, why'd I put you on maximum? Yeah, nine charges. No, no, no. I was in county. I was in county and police was really grabbing me by my mother's fucking neck. It was like, oh, you robbed the captain. You robbed the owner of Las Vegas Metro Police Department. You lucky we won't beat your ass. They used to throw my ass, grab me by my neck, throw me in a horseshoe, push me on the ground, call me a bitch, say, like, oh, yeah, you my little bitch. Don't say shit like... I'm like, damn, they like, yeah, you want to do something, do something. I'm just like there because I'm stuck. You feel me? Like, if I beat... If I take off, I'm getting my ass worked. I got teeth. I can't get caught. Let me ask you. So, I know the music. You heavy into music. You did a song called First Day Out? No, no, no. It was a video of just like a little interview. Okay. So, what is your music thing like? Like, let's talk about the music because you done been with, like, I know Trippie Redd, all these different artists. Give us some instances on your music. What drives you like? And who inspired you to start? Yeah, who inspired you? You know, because you said you weren't interested in... At first, I wasn't interested in music. Right. One day, this is a crazy story. And this is like, I'm just in my backyard. There's an artist named Keen. You feel me? I'm like the young thug. Look-a-like dude. You feel me? Yeah, I see. What did y'all, y'all got some stuff online together? Nah, we chop it up and shit. You feel me? So, motherfucking... That day, I was like probably like 16. You feel me? 17. So, my first year, I started making like beats and shit. I was like, okay, that's shit hard. And then I looked up to Kanye. And then I was like, man, this beat shit hard. But I was on one beat for like six months. So, I'm like... I'm like, bro, I don't even get the beginning of it. So, I was like, fuck this shit. I quit. You feel me? I was like 16 at the time. I stopped doing music until I was like 18, 19. As soon as I started doing music, I already knew what it was. Like my first song hit 10K in like the week. I was like, oh yeah, I'm about to make it and shit. And that first song, you were on it by yourself. You didn't do a feature with anybody? Nah, nah, I did a feature with, you know, low grade, low grade ass niggas, you feel me? Okay. The reason why I say they know disrespect or nothing, but like, I've really been through some shit. Like, he's not my best friend no more because he did that shit. You feel me? But he's the one that got me really into the studio. He forced me into the studio. He was like, you're going to record. I'm like, hell no, bro. And him, since I say low ass, he killed my cousin. Like my best friend killed and murdered my cousin. What? And I was just like, damn. You feel me? And then he was stealing from me. Your best friend killed your cousin? Yeah. What was that about? Like, I mean, do you know what happened? You know, motherfucking, my cousin was like a flexor, you feel me? Selling hella lean and all that. I could talk about it. Yeah, he passed away. He passed, but he was a lean doing all, selling all drugs. So they wanted like 30 pints of lean. You feel me? That's some like good shit. That shit like a bad, you feel me? So. They tried robbing him. And they killed him. They killed him. Yeah. But he's in jail. They in jail now and shit. And it's kind of funny because like I seen him when I was in County. You did? Yeah. I seen him. But it's like he was already in County for four years. I just seen him. You feel me? And he was like, oh, I've been down. He laughing and shit. Laughing how he murdered my cousin and shit. But he don't like, I don't know if he knows, but I think he knows that was my cousin. Okay. But I was like, damn. You feel me? So yeah, he got me into music and shit. Like ever since you feel me, especially my cousin died. I was like, man, I'm just going to keep this shit going because it's just like something to do. And everything, you write your own music, right? Of course. My freestyle, everything. Oh, your freestyle. I've been feeling like Wayne. And everything you speak about is things that happen to you or sometimes things that happen to somebody else that you just put it out in your music. See, that's the case then. That's why I can't drop a lot of music. A lot of my, because I don't bullshit in my music. I'm not no capper. You feel me? Like capping is like the worst thing to ever do. You feel me? Like, especially lying to yourself. You feel me? And then me knowing X66 and Tess, you know, like I'm most definitely can't lie to myself. So like everything I speak, I do. Like my mom, I be saying, my mom be listening here in my music because my little brother be like, Oh, send me that song. I'm like, okay, back. I said it. You played in the car. My mom will call you that tripping. Like you're not dropping that shit because I'm fighting the case. So let's talk about, you say, you know, extension. How do you know him? 2018. This is pretty much like two months, three months before he died. Okay. You got in contact on Instagram. You feel me? Did y'all meet and everything? No, but we talked. You feel me through FaceTime. Okay. And he always gave me positive eyes, energy. Always told me, like, you feel me? Like, tell the haters to suck your dick, bro. Really? You feel me? Like, because at the end of the day, everybody's going to hate on you. Exactly. And he's like, bro, if people don't hate on you, you're not doing shit. You're not doing shit. You're not doing shit. You're not doing shit. You're not doing shit. You're not doing shit. If people don't hate on you, you're not doing shit. So that was the most inspiring thing that he said to you? Yeah. And that made you feel like you had to go through. Once he passed away, that had to affect you, because you were already inspired by him, right? Yeah, it affected me, because when he told me that, he died two days later. Two days later, wow. We always talk, but that's when I really wanted to do my music shit. I started my music shit in 2018. You feel me? So I was like, yeah, I'm going to do that shit. And that's what he told me. Tell the haters to suck your dick. Wow. And so you being a young man, to see how he had to have went out, does that kind of throw you all for is how you move out here? My bad friends, right? Go ahead. No, don't throw me off, because everybody always see it. I don't know why, but they always like, bro, you look like X to me. When I have my hair braided back, X. And that's your cousin? No, no. That's your cousin. And you know, ever since then, I'm like, bro, everybody always say, I don't want to take his shit or anything, because I'm not his style. You feel me? I'm not his genre. But I would love to keep his legacy alive, because when people always say, I look like him for some reason, it is fucking, I'll just be waking up. And some days, I'll have dreams of him, and he'll wake me up. I was like, no, it's that time. You ready to go up. That's when I'm ready to get off this damn ankle monitor. Like, I'll take it over, and people get scared. People are scared. So, I mean, when you think about him and what he would have wanted, you know, because you had the conversation with him, what do you think that he would have wanted from you being in the music? He wants you to turn up like he would, right? Yeah, just want me to have fun. As always, you feel me? It's just fun, because at any date, this is going to keep us out of a lot of shit. You feel me? Keep us out the street. Yeah. Like, every day, somebody's murdering somebody, we'll just, we'll that. Bro, if I promised that they made it in the music, they would stay up out that street, like, because they got so much shit to lose. And that's what people don't understand. Even when, like, the drill rappers, like, they will rap about that shit, and don't care about going to jail, but they don't realize how fast that shit can get taken from you, because that shit will get taken from you quick. Don't let it... This is what a lifer told me. Don't let 10 seconds get you, like, 20 to life. You feel me? Because that's all it takes. You can go running in the gas station right now and go get the money. And you 100% going to get that money. But the chance is you're going to get caught. And you just got life. Hold on a minute. Game point, I need to get some money. No, that's what... That shit took 10 seconds. That's 100% correct, man. You got to think before you make these moves out of it, man. Talk about the new album that... What, The Future of Neptune? The Future of Neptune. I actually felt that album. You feel me? You know, shout out to my brother-in-law, D-Money, you feel me? Help me with it, you feel me? I just came home from prison and I was like, no, I'm going to do that album. That album took me, like, not even five days, four days to do. And then on top of that, I did 300 songs in, like, a week. Wow. Because I was so hungry being home. Like, that's what niggas don't understand, being gone so long, ain't getting no studio, and that rapping through that phone, that shit always came off. Bro, when you get home and you hit that studio, you're like, yeah, yeah. Yeah, niggas, that shit, man. You know what the problem is? Yeah, that shit, man. That shit is amazing. I just don't want to go back to jail. What's your favorite song on that project? Calvin Klein. Calvin Klein? Why? Oh, man. My brother, Young Kippy, amazing. That's my brother. Like, that's my dog. That's my day one. You feel me? Because it's like, as long as it's just a vibe, everybody flow with it. Played it in the club. I can't even go to clubs. I can't go nowhere. I be second house. Not by their law and all that. They be in clubs, doing this, L.A., Miami. They be bumping that shit in the club. They FaceTime. You're like, oh, we wish he was here. I'm like, damn, niggas, you already know if I was ever gonna turn up. I'm gonna have him visit the club. Let me ask you something. Like, when you look at, like, Kodak Black just got shot in the league, like, up in Cali, I guess. Getting to rumbling a little bit, like youngsters do. Do you think that, I mean, is it any way to turn down or is it just straight turn up when you young niggas out there? Because, see, I ain't no young niggas. Y'all young. It's turned up. It's fucking turned up. You feel me? That's what I'm saying. I'm like, how does that happen? But a young cat, like, you like, when I was young, I would have knew, like, yeah, I see how that went down. But how does, I mean, you get all this money and you thinking it's gonna make it to where you're not gonna be in all this. You're gonna move different. I was talking to him. I had an interview with a guy this, what, it was about a week ago when he was in Texas and it was like, he told me, he's like, man, if I'd been there a young dog, it would still be a lot of day because he straight, that's all he's doing. Security. He like, if he just hired me that day, when they got out of that car, they'd have never made it out of that car. You know, so, and he had the money to do so. And when I look at people like Kodak Black and what he just went through, I mean, these people got money, man. You know what I'm saying? Well, yeah, like, there's like, nobody wants to be with the police because even though the security, like you got securities out there, like, That is not police. That ain't not police. But what people don't understand, that hip-hop police shit is real. You feel me? Them motherfuckers will be like me and be like, hey, I'll be your security guard who it is and watch every move. That's like with 6ix9ine. Oh, so they gonna turn you in? They will turn you in for a show. They like to watch shit. That's why they can stay with their own people because you can't trust people. And especially in this generation right now, like every snitching is cool. That shit out. You feel me? So you really got to watch out. And like Lil Baby said, bro, like all that rap money is fake. You feel me? Because you got to, you're not really getting that much. You got people to pay after every show. Right. After this, managing this, that, that. And don't even feel money. You're gonna get invested. You feel me? So like, that's shit. No, I get it. That makes sense. So their security is really their partners. They bring their partners to watch their back. Yeah, yeah. Them street niggas gonna start something too, man. Like, bro, like, you know, I don't like speaking a lot of shit, but like, dog, for example. Yeah, dog. Like, ARP dog. Like, if he has security, security, you feel me? But he do a lot of street shit. You feel me? I get it. There's a lot of drugs and this. It's all kind of stuff mixed up in what's going on. So imagine just bringing somebody that you don't know into that motherfucker. And they like, oh yeah, you got him. Yeah, cause you don't know who you bring. If you don't bring in the right somebody, if you don't know them, you just hire somebody. You don't know if they attached to something that could pretty much incriminate you. And everybody like to rob these days. So, like, that's just not it. That's real. Yeah, that's real shit. And your own homies will kill you. I keep my circle small. You feel me? I stay with my little few people. You feel me? But when nigga got to go out on the street, that's when nigga's outside because shit's cracking. Now I look at you. You got the tattoos in your face. You got the earl chain on the kid earl chain. Niggas is going to be watching you. I mean, when you move on the internet, no matter how niggas see you, they like, oh, there he is right there. You know what I'm saying? So you kind of shine a light on yourself whenever you are in a bout. You know what's crazy too? I be like, damn, bro. I'm not going to say I'm a savage, but I'll be like, I'm low key a savage because it's a lot of shit going on and a lot of artists is dying. But sometimes I do move by myself. I'm just like, because it's just be crazy. It's crazy. I'll be like, damn, because I am a target. A lot of people do try to snatch my chain, but just don't get the chance. Like, you feel me? When I was like that, my brother's even told me, like, bro, we had a DP in nigga because a nigga tried to snatch your chain. You feel me? They wouldn't go perform and the nigga reached for it and yanked on it. Because it's your chain. Yeah. It'd be crazy. But you got to change up your movements. Not drive the same car, not go the same place. I don't want Jeff Bezos shit. I'm going to keep that one handed, bro. Because I'm really watched by the police just because I've been through some shit and they think I did some crazy shit. So I won't drive a fancy car. I won't drive my Maserati or anything like that. I don't even want to get none of my G-wagging instant out here, none of my limbs. None of that out here from Florida because if I come out here, the police see that shit. I'm just like a big target. They're going to watch it. They're going to watch me, bro. I watched the video of Jeff Bezos last week, two weeks ago, and he was driving a Honda. He was like, the nigga picked him up. He was like, bro, I have one question because this is the person that's interviewing him. He's like, I have one question. Why are you driving a Honda? He was like, bro, it's a good car. And then on top of that, it's low profile because now I could drive anywhere I went without nobody being like, ah, that's bad. That's Jeff Bezos. Or like Lil Uzi. Lil Uzi cars are all the same. You see Lil Uzi cars down the street? You're going to follow that motherfucker. You be like, but that's Uzi. They know exactly who he is. They know exactly who he is. But let me tell you something. This one thing I've always learned, even like when you look at doctors or people with money, I've always heard like, I know a couple doctors that they drive those regular cars. They're regular cars. They have their nice cars at home. Don't get me twisted. They take that out when they're going out dressed up and whatever. But to go to work on an everyday basis, they drive us a little over regular car because sometimes you have some people out there who will target nice cars to as a bump them or whatever because they think they're going to get paid. That's different things. So certain people who have money, they know how to work it. But then you have some people who just want to floss. Who don't care about it because they think they're bigger and better than everybody else. Like, test me. Try me. Yeah, bro. That's the one thing I got to say for the youngsters that test me to try me. That shit's not it, bro. Like, they used to be like, motherfucking like, they used to be like just like whatever. My baby, motherfucking high as shit, I'll be forgetting sometimes. So it's a mess. You're like, dude, where do you want to see yourself in like, say, a year from now? What do you want to see yourself? You feel like get off this monitor. So where do you want to see your career? Shit. You know, I'm about to take over. That's all I know. Like, I've talked to labels. Even though I be at home, like I talked to labels and labels is ready. They already ready. They be like, they be telling me like, oh, bro, give me $1,000 and do this. And I'll do that. But they've been doing it for free lately. Playing my music in the office. Little pumps, people playing my music in the office. You feel me? Interscope, all that. Like, so it's been crazy. I've been like, damn, nigga, they fucked with me. So you and Lil Pump, have you ever talked with that guy? No. Your main thing is extension on you. That's your guy, that's who you rock with. When he was living, of course. Well, my main thing right now is just, you know, try to make it, try to survive. Because being in the pen is like, being out here right now. Niggas is dying everywhere. Everywhere. Everything, the only thing in the pen is like, you can't go nowhere. No weapons. You're getting stabbed today. So, yeah, so my purpose is like, you know, do my music, take over the music industry. Be bigger than a lot of these people. And, you know, I wish I could say a lot of things, but I have done interviews that is not coming out, because my niggas be like, why would you say that shit? Don't say that shit. No. Hey, don't drop that shit, because you say that shit. No, no, no, I get it. So I'll be trying to watch myself that way. You're supposed to. As you should, yeah. Yeah, I mean, because everything's not to be spoke on specific things that are up and forthcoming, and you don't want to, you don't want to let things out of the bag sometime too quickly, or you don't want to speak on something that might put somebody else in a situation. I don't want to speak on something that's going to put yourself in a worse situation. There's an easy way for people not to fuck with you in this world. Like, you could say one thing, and niggas be like, aw, bro, he said that shit. Now nobody's going to fuck with you, you feel me? So I'll be like, damn, it's nice you got to keep some of that shit to yourself, it's just what it is. Because everything is quick to go on social media in a heartbeat. Everybody's recording, and the way how societies, and this is so terrible, you can say one thing and mean it in a certain way, but everybody to twist it, just for clout, just to make it sound another, especially a lot of some of the bloggers, or some people who want to come up off of... Vices. You know what I mean? That's, I'm scared, because they did my brother wrong, you feel me? They did my brother wrong, D-Man, you feel me? Like, he did not say none of that, they cut his shit to the max, to the point where it made him sound like a dick, like, aw, he is, like, they made him sound fucked up to the point where a lot of people would stop fucking with him. So what's your next project that you're coming out with? Because it seems that you'd be working so hard, and you're always having things coming out back to back to back. What do you have coming out next? And when is it dropping? I have some shit coming. I have so many songs, I have probably, I haven't been out six months, I probably got over, like, 1,800, 2,000 songs. Right now I'm just trying to figure out what to do, and what am I going to do next. Instead of dropping an album or something like that, just drop, like, probably a little mixtape. A little mixtape. You feel me, like, because I feel like it's like I'm against a lot of people, so I'd probably be, like, Earl against the world, or like, me versus me. You feel me? Earl versus Deontay type shit. Is there something in your catalogue that you haven't released yet that you know is going to be a hit? Oh, yeah. I got that one before I got that one. What's the name of that song? Show Me. And that's the ones I sent to the labels, and the labels be fucking with it. They be like, yeah! They be like, oh, they love it. They love it. And I'll be like, damn. And to the point where, like, it's not even dropped yet, and they know that, I'll be like, damn, I hope they don't give that shit to nobody, because they give that shit to somebody. They're gonna die. They're gonna fucking die. If I catch anybody with my legs, yeah. It's gonna be bad. It's gonna be bad. You feel me? It's only one person that's allowed he or he did it once. You feel me? And I can't allow it no more, but if you do it again, just know, I'll know for a fact. Oh, you can't speak on that person. Who did it? I don't know. I wish I could. Because it's probably one of my favorite, favorite artists of all motherfucking time, like, bro, there. So I wish I could. So if you could work with somebody in the future, who would you want to work with? Oh, yeah, Lil Uzi. That boy like Lil Uzi. Lil Uzi motherfucking back. Okay, so if you like him so much, give me your top three artists. Top three artists of all time. All the time. Dead or Alive. Any genre. Anybody. I'm gonna say X. You feel me? X number one. X number one. Biggest impact when he died. All that. You feel me? Number two. Uzi. Uzi number two. Number three. And Thug. Thug. You like Thug like that? Yeah, I fuck with Thug. Like Thug is lit. Like, I promise you, like when I first heard that Uzi song and Thug song, what is it called? I think it's Big Rax. Yeah. Uzi was in the video. That's when I was like, yeah, I was like, yeah, now I'm really about to start doing music. I was like, Uzi really turned me up. I didn't go like... Uzi Virg. I was turning up. I've seen Uzi on that Amigo song, that one when he first came out. Oh. Battle Boogie. Yeah, man. I was like, this dude, what is this dude, man? Yeah, that's the crazy part. Look, man. I was like, they got a hand like, who took my hand. No, that's dope, man. Yeah. The thing is, man, you know, the thing I can say is that we've seen a lot of artists that, you know, because they be like the one who hadn't made it yet, the bigger artists will see something they got and they'll use it. Yeah. It happens, bro. And at the end of the day, and then you could say about it because you ain't got nothing to show that they're the big brains, right? Labels do that, too. Labels who like, here you come in and they'll sign you and know that you're very talented and they love your music, but they'll shelf you because they're really working on somebody else to push them up. Most definitely. And I think that's so... That shit is ignorant as fuck. But they do it. I told every manager that came at me, if you're gonna fuck with me, drop every motherfucking artist you got. I don't give a fuck if he's your hottest artist or not. I'm not that nigga. So you want a manager that's independently, strictly for you? For me. I don't want nobody else because, bro, like... Do you have that? No. Because... So you're looking for a manager? I'm looking for a manager because I've been doing a lot. Like, you feel me? Like, I could do a lot by myself. Especially like, some managers be out there just to get your fucking soul. So I'd be like, bro, like, I have this one manager he owns me for like, life. You feel me? But... See, he has my Instagram name. My Instagram... My artist name is K-I-D-E-A-R-L. Not K-I-D-D-E-A-R-L. I see that. So I do shit different. Like, when I sign papers, I put my artist name, but I put the 2Ds because, guess what? Y'all can take that shit. That's not my shit. You feel me? Yeah, I get it. Like, it's some shit I can do. You gotta be smarter by how you move because somebody will try to get you. Yeah. My boy was in... All right, so I picked up my manager. This was like 2019. I picked up my manager in LA. I was with my brothers and shit. They went inside. You feel me? You go get something like backwards and shit so we could roll up a smoke. So my manager stayed in the car with me and he's arguing with me like, bro, just yelling at me like, bro, I fucking own you. Anything you fucking do, you can't do without me. And I was like, but it's like, I'm in a fucked up situation. That's my manager. I sign papers to this nigga. Sign papers. You feel me? Whatever this nigga is saying, like I could be, if I try to do something, I could get fucked up. You feel me? And you can't find no loopholes? I found a loophole. I gave him my Instagram name. He gave me some. My brother came in the corner. It was like, was looking at me and was like, he is ready to put a strap out. Like, nigga, no man should never tell you that he owns you. Yeah. And my brothers don't like that shit. And my brothers, they will go fucking crazy. So I had to, like, I gotta ask you this because you hadn't mentioned Drake and then, but everybody in the South would be seeing Mitch and Drake. Like, they'd be like, I'll do it. I want to, I want Drake. You hadn't mentioned him. How do you feel about Drake and that whole movement with OVO? Well, you know, I'm respected. You feel me? Always will. You feel me? Talented artist. I fought with him. You feel me? Nothing against me. You feel me? Is the styles different because you guys are younger generation, right? I mean, he's still, he's still like doing his thing. He's still that nigga. Yeah. But y'all are the younger generation. Y'all not like, when we, my era, you know, it was a younger generation, then a younger generation, but you guys are the next up, right? Next up, that Drake is signing niggas like us. Yeah. And that's dope, man. So, man, hey, man, we love you, bro. We appreciate you, man. I always put God first, no matter what. I don't care, I don't care what you're doing. I don't care what situation you're in. I don't care what people say, you are always connected to God, young brother. Yeah. So don't, don't even play with that part. Stay focused enough to do what you do, but know that God loves you, bro. I love your energy. Don't let nobody dig my mind. No cap, you did. Because you got some, you got energy. Yeah. I'm just a little ass person. I wish I could tell the story of my trip, but I'm like, hey, but we're about to, we're about to get you actually once that money to come out, we can bring you down. Imagine seeing him perform on stage. Oh yeah. Yeah. He's going to go in there. We're in Texas. Texas. In Dallas. Okay. I got you, man. That's where it's all about. Yes, sir. They're about to have it. It's coming up. You can't come though. You can't come. Hey, look. My lawyer, my lawyer from Texas, right? That's the thing, like I spent, I had three lawyers. That's been over $300,000 in lawyer. He's from Texas, but he's trying to get you in there. So hopefully everybody, hopefully next week, I'll be off as South by Southwest. It's coming up. In March, right? It's coming up. It's coming up, man. Say, man, thank you so much, man. Yes, sir. Hey, man. Listen, man, how can people get a hold of you if they're trying to look at, you know, trying to reach out to you? Get a feature or something like that. Get a feature or something like that. Yes, sir. So, y'all, my Instagram is K-I-D-D-E-A-R-L. You feel me booking information in my bio. You feel me dropping new music and I just dropped No Cap featuring Marzi. You feel me from Gangland. It's lit. You did. It's lit. Say, man, thank you so much for coming on the show. It's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101 with a boss's talk. Boss talk. And we out.