 The design of the wheel shall be that of the wheel. Chakras with a brass funding. The main purpose of our announcement is to connect to Mabashoka. Namaskar. I am Sagarichhabra and we are recording the Hamara Itihas Archives. And today we are in the home of a very special person, Subhadra Khosla, who actually raised the flag inside the Lahore Women's Jail, along with several other women. She is the daughter of Achint Ram and Sathya Vati ji. And she is a reservoir of stories and our history. Subhadra ji, namaskar. First of all, I would like to say that you have given me your precious time. And I would like to ask you, when and where did your birth come from? I am influenced by your love. And my birth was in the district of Amritsar, Taseel Tarantaran. When? On 30th September, in 1928. So what was the influence of your family? My father was the only son of his parents. His name was Lala Achintran. He went to Lahore for medical studies. His father was very proud that my son was becoming a doctor. But time changed his life. Mahatma Gandhi ji's call came, leave foreign studies and make the country independent. So in the night, he burnt all his foreign clothes and burnt them. And now he has decided that he will make the country independent. He was a fan of that feeling. He came to our home. And my mother also went to Kanyakumar Vidyalaya for 5 years. Your mother was Satya Vati ji? Yes, my mother was Satya Vati ji. Lala Chintran ji left her studies and completed her graduation. And Lala Lajpatra ji opened 7th of the People's Society, which was called the Lok Sevak Mandal in Hindi. And for his children, for his friends, he made the first member of Lala Chintran ji, who was a member of all India's youth service. But what did you see? Did you tell about the people at that time? Your father was Chintran ji and Satya Vati ji. Who else was there with him? Where we used to live in Lajpatbhavan, Lala ji bought the coat, it was the coat of the British, I think. Because at that time, every bathroom, which was double styled by the British, the one to sit and the one to get up, they used to give every member a hundred rupees a month. And wherever they came from, they were ready to leave home. And you cannot earn anything more than this. These were their conditions. And they should graduate. They opened a library for 2-3 hours. Dwarka Das library in Lajpatbhavan, on the 2nd floor. The students who came, and all the members of the library, they should study. Who else was there with them? They were members of the society, Mohanlal ji, Sati Mohanlal ji, Jagannath ji, Principal Shabir Das ji, they were members of Lahore, Devrahe Sethi, Lal Bahadur Shastri in UP, Algurahe Shastri, I mean, there were 10 members, UP, Bihar, Gujarat, Odisha, all the members, they would come once or twice a year, they would have a meeting together. And what direction should the country go to? What is our goal, that we should not forget? They would come for a walk on that path. Who were the women with them who were involved in the freedom struggle at that time? When they were studying, there were 4 women with them, who were the PhD students, they were Jalwit, with them was Sushila Mohan, who later became an MLA in Delhi, and there were 2 women, who were the PhD students, they all fought for their rights, but my mother, who was engaged to my husband, said, that I will eat meat, I will wash clothes at home, which he had never done, I will live a simple life, I will serve people. Tell me, what did you see in 1952? The story of 1952 is very exciting, because we saw our father going to jail, but we didn't see him from home, we were in jail. But that day, on 9th August, the police were standing outside Lajpat Bhawan, because there were no television radios, so we saw all the important meetings in Lajpat Bhawan, were held in the committee room, and on that day, on 9th August, we had a meeting to meet the congressman, what we had to do for freedom, because Mahatma Ji's call came, to do or die, so with so much patience, we had to talk about it today. People started coming at 9 o'clock, we were sleeping in the bed, so we went to bed, so we said, what happened? On the day of 1984, the police stood outside, because there was something going on. At 10 o'clock, there were 20-40 people, and up to 2 o'clock, there were 40 people, and all of them were shouting, let's go, now we have to go for freedom, when everything is done. All the money in their pockets were given to them, and father came to catch them, so the people who made the food were busy, but whatever was there, so much patience, their families came, so they were making a lot of noise, in such a long time, the police asked, where is Sheeta Devi? She was also here, so they went to catch them, they were also from Chhabil Das Ji, they were the principals of national college, so they asked, are they from Chhabil Das Ji? They all went to jail, and at 4 o'clock, the police came, and we all said, go away, and the man said, this fight is very difficult, it's not easy, be ready, the children started crying, they were asking for death, they are going to the country for crying, this is the service for the country, we get a lot of opportunities, don't worry, don't worry, because we didn't know, they made all of them dead news, because for unlimited time, there was no limit, but we never knew, we were going to the country for happiness, after the country, we went to jail, we sent as much as we could, happily, happily, after 4 o'clock, the children started crying, the food we had in the morning, we thought, what do we have to do, at that time, we used to go to Satyagrab, so there was Laxmi Dev Trikha, she was there, she told us, our program is on 26th August, we have informed the police, so we will see how we will go, we will also go with them, so after 9th August, we planned and planned, someone's children, because somewhere, there are no children, so the most interesting thing, Mrs. Kamrat Ramakrishan, had two children, no one to stay at home, so she was a little stubborn, so she stayed with Radhya Saigal jailer, saying, brother, you keep it, if it comes, then it comes, otherwise you will be safe here, so it was such a bad situation, for the workers, but it was so true, that we have to leave the freedom of the country, so on 26th August, there was a raksha bandhan, and Mrs. Kamrat Ramakrishan, Laxmi Dev Trikha, Mrs. Hemraj Pathan Kaurse, and Mrs. Ramesh Naru, the four of them, gave their application, that we are actually doing it, okay, the application was given, we had to give it first, that day at 4 o'clock, in Anarkali Bazaar, we will come here, so the police would know, the police would be careful, we were very shocked, that even we would leave the aunt, at that time Gandhi ji had made this rule, when the duo and daika said, first cut, then wear it again, so every woman had to cut her hair at home, so our mother had cut two or four suits, in Anarkali Bazaar, where we had to do the pictures, there was Gandhi Ashram, he caught his suit, at that time, at 3 o'clock, it started raining, how will people come, but we don't care, if it rains, whatever we have to do, we all went in that rain, and after 4 o'clock, we left Gandhi Ashram, and went with him, and then, the police stopped, they said, don't wear clothes, don't drink alcohol, and we kept on wearing the clothes, our sister, Mrs. Lakshmi Devitrikha, Mrs. Kamre and Mrs. Hemraj, they couldn't come, there was so much rain, so we took them to the police station, at 5 o'clock, at that time, you didn't have any fear, you didn't get scared, we said, this is a chance, we felt it was a game, we were so happy, we got such a good chance, what was your age at that time? I was 12 years old, tell us, if you went to jail, tell us about the experience of the jail, who was there first? everyone from Delhi, the daughter of Mr. Sadanand, her daughter Satyavati, her other children also came, later, Mrs. Didwani was with us, there was a leader in Lahore, after Shanno Dej, I became a deputy speaker, Haryana's Seeta Devi, and Mrs. Hemraj, Ghulam Fatima, she was a Muslim leader, she also went to jail, Ghulam Fatima, because she used to sing very well, she used to speak very well, Maata Purandei, who was a master in the market, and Savitri from Ludhiana, and Purandei, she had one eye, we used to laugh, you see the world with one eye, Maata Purandei had a heart trouble, she used to sleep outside, she used to run a fan, tell us something, which you went to jail for? we went to jail at 4 pm, all the girls came from Delhi, Bharti and Kaswila, they took their group with them, 20-25 girls, they sang with their voices, she used to sing songs all day slowly, slowly, we are the wealth of the country, we will go to the country, we will plant new plants of flowers, every morning, we will plant flowers, I want to take the mother of my country. Tell me, did you throw a flag in the jail? What about that? Let me know. When we went to the jail, no matter how happy you are, the food was very dirty. No newspaper allowed. Normally A, B, C are class. In A, you get a lot of facilities. In B, you get a chair. You get books to read. You get all the facilities. C is a little bit of a relief. When the British came, they asked us to put something in this movement. Because of this, they didn't give us any facilities to read, to eat, to live. So, we sent them by writing to them that this is our complaint. You stay away for so many days. They didn't have a ring on their ears. They said it for 15 days. No one would listen. Then we said, we will throw a flag. You take it with love. So, what happened? At the end of October, one day, in Manmohan, there were 3 or 4 jails. Sudhagar Singh, Subhanian, and Mrs. Ilaal, and Deputy Subhanian. They didn't know. They came alone. And they started breaking glass. So, Satyapati Ji, who was from Delhi, they were called Mahatma Gandhi Sher. They said, open the door. So, what were we doing? We were making flags. If you didn't fulfill our request, we were making flags and suits. Because there was no safety in the sari. So, we were making the sari inside. We did it once, twice, three times. We said, why don't we open the door? But that's why they came. The gate was open. So, we understood that they came. We closed the back doors. And the gate was open. They came. They were standing. They broke the glass at 5 o'clock. So, we stood up. We were against it. You broke the glass. It's your fault. It's not your fault. No, no, no, no. I do this. I do this. There was no excuse. Satyapati Ji was standing. She was the leader. The jailor broke the glass? He broke it. Why didn't you open the door? So, they said, we are against it. They said, you broke the glass. We didn't break it. So, we didn't talk. They said, sorry, sorry, sorry. He thought that I would transfer Satyapati Ji to the jailor. So, it's possible that he might be pushed away. And because he didn't have it in his hand, he got permission from above. So, he gave us something. So, what did he do? After four days, he transferred Satyapati Ji to Ambala. He had only one girl. She met him on the way. So, he died because he couldn't bear it. But he thought that the moment is over. But as much as the lioness of Lahore was ready, as much as Bihar had left the house, that we will fulfill our demands. Our preparation was done. We had prepared all the flags and clothes. On 9th October, in the morning, we went to the main gate. There was a very thin wall and it was full of steam. So, we took the flag and stood on the four feet. Near the main gate, where the roof comes, we climbed to the other side of the main gate. We came to the flag. We came to the flag and kept the door open. We came to the gate. So, he was in the jail. Mohan had broken a glass before. You didn't have a Jailer. You put the flag on the four feet of the jail. The main gate was full of steam. He climbed to the other side of the main gate. So, he climbed to the flag. We put the flag in front of the gate. We started singing. In such a long time, Mrs. Sudhaga Singh's eyes were open. What did she do? She ran away. What happened? She said, she put the flag on the jail. She said, Pick up the receiver. Pick up the phone. Pick up the receiver. I could hear what she was doing. Mrs. Sudhaga Singh was afraid that she couldn't take care of the women. So, she kept listening to the receiver. In such a long time, she came. She said, I don't have an idea. I had a lot of ideas. I would take the freedom and leave it. I would do everything. I mean, she was so strong. She was full of women. She was like a mother. So, she kept singing. What did she do? She asked me to pick her up. She said, No. She called the police. She called the police. She called the police and ordered us to shoot. She threatened us. Then we started singing. We will move the world from the banks of freedom. We will wake up the dead. We are the sons of the country. We will remove the children from the service of the country. We will rob the house. We will keep the people's respect from the banks of freedom. We will keep the people's respect. We will keep the people's respect. We will keep the people's respect. We will keep the people's respect from the banks of freedom. When the police heard this song again, they started crying. They threw the gun down. They said to the police, We won't shoot. The police couldn't do anything. The police went back. They said, We can't oppress the Indians. When the police left, they didn't have a choice. We were not scared. Then they locked us in small rooms. There was a bathroom and a bathroom. How long were you in jail? I was in jail for three years. What did you do? How long did you cut? I went to jail for three years. I went to jail for one 144 times. One for foreign clothes and one for alcohol. I went to jail for one year. One year? One year and a half. You were in jail and you were in jail. You saw a lot. But when you were free, you went to the cemetery. What did you see at that time? We didn't know about the cemetery. We used to live in Lajpadhavon. The refugees started coming. In the office of the 7 top people society, our father Chint Ram was there. We thought what to do with him. There was a DAV college hostel. We camped there. There were 5,000 to 6,000 rooms. We kept the refugees there. The young girls who used to come, used to tell us about our sorrows. What did you see and hear? We heard how they were oppressed. But when they were being oppressed, they fought with their brothers. We didn't see them. They were suffering. We used to tell them to stay here, to take care of their food, to recognise them in India. This was our job. In that situation, all Pakistan... I had to go to Batwara on 15th August. Before that, we started working. People used to come from districts. You were in Lahore at that time. Yes, we stayed in Lahore. We didn't change the house from Lahore. If there was a place in Ashram, we kept some people there. We used to eat and drink. We used to go out at night. There was a time like that. What stories did you hear? What were the women's situation? In every house, people were taken out of their homes. The people. The villagers, we weren't going to see them. But they were suffering. They fought with each other. They didn't know that this was our house. So they were taken out of there. Some were killed, some were beaten. So that they didn't get saved or cry. The ones who used to get saved, they killed so many people. They closed their rooms. They couldn't reach there. But the ones who used to reach there, our whole wish was that they would get complete comfort. If not complete, they would get food so that they would be able to eat for the rest of the day. If they wanted to eat, they would be hungry for food. In the meantime, the society was ordered that the workers should go to their countries and see what is going on. They couldn't find anything in Lahore. So they gave a district to Mohanlal and to Lalaptan and to Rawalpindi and to Jailam and to Lena Singh and to Multan. When everyone starts going, my mother says that it is good for everyone to do what is their duty. Don't think about me. God will keep my destiny. Go as brave as you can and do all the work. Everyone's eyes are filled with tears with so much sacrifice. But life is ready if you go for the country. What difference does it make? Subhadra Ji, tell me what is your message of 1991? What is your message of the generation who are listening to you or the future generation who will listen to this archive recording? What is your message? I say, I have brought you from the storm this message of the people to be careful. Thank you very much. Thank you so much. I am very happy.