 Next question is from land 3 Emma is foam rolling good for recovery and can it help you recover faster? Yeah, I love it for this. This is so they do studies on massage So that that would that's where you're gonna find the studies that'll that'll point to this the best and say, okay It is massage Help with recovery It's hard to measure that because there's perceived pain in which case massage helps because you feel like you're less sore Is it actually speeding up recovery? I don't know. I think it can but not because it's it's the foam rolling or massage itself is reducing The inflammation or making the recovery faster I think the fact that you feel less pain now you move more and that is what I think facilitates recall That's an interesting theory. Yeah, because I know I know if you just sit still You're not gonna recover as fast as you can see that from being restrictive like after a workout Like I feel tired like and you're less likely to get that circulation that really is the part of the recovery process But yeah, I don't know like it it'd be interesting to see if you could like manually manipulate I don't know. Well, you could test that the way you would test that is you would actually you would massage a group of people And then they would lay in bed and do nothing Right and then you would massage another group of people and they would go about their day And then you would not massage somebody that's and so all of them would need to be really sore Right, so the goal would be you know over train over reach get everybody like really sores of legs, right? It's real easy doing that with squats or something, right? So you get everybody really sore you have one group that gets massaged and then goes about their day So they keep moving around you have one group that gets massaged Lays in bed doesn't do anything and then you have another group who doesn't do either one of them, right? And then you measure to see what the recovery process with their performance. Yeah, you know the more I think about it I think Sal your theory makes a lot of sense Like it's it's probably less to do with the actual massage itself because I mean it's somebody who used to get massages all the time That's what Katrina did, right when we first met You know you train and you're really sore I mean everyone's like train legs and then you had a day where you say oh, yeah You're like shuffling around yeah You're stiff when you move and you see you you probably limit the amount you move around because of how sore you are Versus not if you've ever experienced a great massage like that and you walk out Oh my god, my hips are opened up and you feel good and you kind of go about walking So that's probably you're probably right the even if there is some science to support that it's doing something for recovery It probably has more to do with the movement and the blood flow oxygen nutrients getting Afterwards and it depends on how it's being done like deep tis tissue massage or you know when people you ever seen those foam rollers They're like made out of wood or when people go crazy with it The knobby one yeah, like when you go deep enough with massage Or you know foam rolling you are causing damage you are causing a little bit not like when you're working out But you can cause some muscle damage. I don't think that's gonna speed up recovery I really do think it has more to do with the fact that you because the pain is reduced just like stretching I think stretching would do the same thing stretching gets me to move trigger sessions I think you're moving you feel less pain you move more that Facilitates recovery staying in bed not moving due to whatever reason whether it's because you're being lazy or because you're too sore slows down recover it blunts the Adaptation signal that blunts the muscle building signal because you're not moving like if you got really really sore and then did not move at all You your you might recover But you're not going to build any more muscle because the signal you're sending from not moving is gonna probably overpower The workout that you just did you know if I hammered my legs on Monday didn't move till the next Monday I guarantee I wouldn't get stronger. I probably get what is it called? Is it raking or raking the most rakey? Yeah, the most aggressive intervention that people do and they get all bruised rulfing rulfing. Thank you No, rakey is it's like energy like they don't touch you. I went to the wrong guy Yeah, when does the pain start guys? Hey Hawks, I can't keep my hands off of