 Good morning. Good afternoon. Good evening wherever you're hailing from welcome to another red hat enterprise Lennox presents today We are tackling storage and we came to this topic Kind of took some time to get there. I feel like Eric But I still feel like it's very valid to folks that are maybe queuing up to take in our you know a red hat exam Any kind of certification test or oh my god I have to do something an emergency situation with storage. So Eric, please introduce yourself and and let's talk about What we're talking about today? So I'm Eric the I no worries. No worries. It's it's almost Friday, right? It's we're almost there So I am Eric the IT guy Hendricks. I am a technical marketing manager here in the rail business unit So I spend all of my days thinking about how to make systems administrators lives easier and doing so With hopefully not having a demo environment blow up On that note Chris. I did I did build a brand new VM called that iron man based on previous episode feedback And you know, I think we're ready to go Well, that's good news We we kind of came like you said we kind of came to this topic because it's relevant whether you've been a Linux systems administrator for 10 days or 10 years. It's It's just one of those things that It's a weird thing because I don't know about you but I have to Google this about every single time that I go because Let's see it's a virtual disc first, right? No, no, you start out in the real world So it's a physical volume and then the logical or I Telling you I had to find I had to go into Evernote when we were talking about it Because it's been so long since I've mucked with like LVM, right? Like I was like dang That's even in like a different generation of notes, right? Yeah, I need to brush up on that Evernote back in the day and then and then it's like no, I don't need to reread the whole article I just need these few commands in the right order. Yep So then that moved to Apple notes and then so I'm on to my third generation because I'm on Joplin now and Still to this a day. I work on this stuff all day every day and I still have to go in and check actually yeah Actually, we'll do this the hard way first. Okay, and then I'll show you why I don't need that note anymore. Let's let's do that. Oh Oh Eliminating the note. I like this Okay, cool. So let me Share my screen here The hardest I mean to be fair the hardest part for me is LVVG PV, you know, right like when to do what create right like that's always the hardest part for me But well, and then that's that's really the hardest part is Order does all this stuff go in and then for fun. Let's throw out f-disk because yeah Why not add another set of commands in there? Could you increase the font size on that somehow because like I know I was afraid that was gonna happen Yeah, see Well resized it a little bit in the intro I think it cites itself back when when I shared it I Was right there is a keyboard shortcut There you go, how about the knuckles one more one more you got it Well, no it went down That's weird. It went like defaulted itself back to the regional size. Can you please increase the font size? What are you doing over there? Whatever I thought or whatever you're doing. It's weird interesting, huh? It's are you like did you do the thing in zoom or it's like only take this window? Yes, maybe that's the problem. That's probably part of it because you're resizing the window size and zoom is resizing accordingly as well, too Let's see Got a little zoom and all this technology stuff. It's just great. Let's do let's just share metal desktop We're gonna need it all here eventually Yeah, why not unless you got an ultrawide monitor, then we don't need Me like that. Yeah, that's not I mean, that's so pretty wide though, so you're gonna have to bump up the phone everything How about them apples? No, that's unreadable Okay, all right, I mean like even with glasses on We've never had this problem before why is this new I don't know Zoom just just work. That's that's all I need you to do well if not in a windowed state if you just You're on a max of command plus plus a bunch That shouldn't theory make it bigger At the same time what but every time you move it it resizes it. That's weird And everything's updated as of this morning. So I mean we could blame twitch Okay, that's working keep increasing the size. It's not twitch. It's technically it's just Okay, there you go. I can read that All right, if you go up one more, I'm curious if Probably baked at break the entire. Yeah, all right. Cool All right troubleshooting on air. Hopefully that's the worst of it today All right, so I've got Iron Man here He is a virtual machine running in my home lab just a generic rel 8.5 installed right off of image builder And uh, so if if you look I've got dev vda. Okay, so let's let's back up. Yeah, I was about to say Let's let's talk about the device Yeah, let's let's back up here. All right, so I'm logged in as root. Don't do this at home But So to start with we've got Dev vda. It's a 64 gig disc It is technically a q-cow 2 file sitting on my on my hypervisor server It's 64 gigs, but in reality, it's like 2.5 gigs in an actual size, but it's it's then provisioned that's Actually, that would be a great conversation for for another episode is virtual machines q-cow 2 files We we saw me working on my my hypervisor here at home live on the air a couple weeks ago So I might so I might jot that down I got a great story. I'll send you a link to it Perfect. Yeah, because I think that'd be a good conversation I would be lost both in this job and every other job I've had without my home lab So we'll we'll talk about that in the future But for all intents and purposes today just assume dev vda is a disc that's 64 gigs in size We've got our bio system. We've got our efi and then Then about 60 just shy of 64 gigs worth of actual linux file system. That's the storage we actually have available And Then we've got vdb and vdc So we've got two discs here and I intentionally chain Put them at different sizes just for ease of use because there's No, uh, there's no greater problems and oh look, I've got like six discs and they're all a terabyte which one's which So vdb is 32 gigs and vdc is 16 gigs. So just just for the sake of making it easy Because live demos are hard. We'll we'll uh, we'll make this easy and So the first thing we want to do is Yeah, yeah I love it reps reps going Yeah, I I'm not even gonna go going to go down that rabbit trail today. Stay here. Stay here. Stay with me All right, physical volumes virtual discs and then lvms so We we've got we we we look at our disc layout. We've got our three different discs. They're 64 32 and 16 just for the for the ease of Just for the ease of demonstration So we don't want to touch our system disc that that one's working We don't we don't want to touch it. So we're going to leave vda alone mostly because I don't want to break my live machine So vdb is 32 gigs. Let's work with that one So we know that it's it's mounted because everything in linux is a file So it's it's actually that disc is actually present at slash dev slash vdb So what we want to do is when we want to create a virtual disc Or a physical volume Often see i'm already messing up. This is this is why we're talking about this today, right? Exactly So the first thing we want to do is use p pv create okay Physical volume that's what this stands for that's a physical volume create So what we're going to do is we're just going to tell our operating system that hey vdb is a disc We want to treat it as such that way when we eventually get to our linux our our Logical volume that that's we've got everything layered correctly. So we're going to do a pv create So Can we say that was fantastic? Fantastic No wonder auto complete wasn't working Oh, that's the best All right, so before you do anything you did a bunch of prep for this show, right? I did I did You did a lot of reading I did a lot of reading. I didn't run through this. So This tells you how many times I've had this problem as a systems administrator So the first thing we need to do is actually install the packages to support logical volumes Mm-hmm So we're what we're going to do a dnf install or a yum install Which are the case may be and because I've done this before I know that the package that I need to give us all the commands is lvm 2 So that that takes care of device mapper that gives us our pv commands our vg commands and our and our lv commands as well so Can we just say that I did that on purpose you did that on purpose So now auto complete works. So I know the package is installed. So we're going to do vdb And that's going to create a physical volume. What that does is that basically takes our hardware disc and our And tells the operating system. Hey, this is a hardware disc. I want you to treat it as such And so we just give it the disc that we want to use And then So that's pv create. So you've got the hardware you've got physical volume Then the next level up is a is a volume group And so we're going to do a vg create much the same as we did before And if my brain remembers correctly, we're going to do it dash in to give it a name And so we're just going to we're going to be super creative because we're engineers and that's what we do And we're just going to call it a data vol data volume Different organizations have different naming schemes for for volume groups A lot of times it's the host name other times it's something super super detailed like data volume Sometimes if it's like a database disc or something, it'll be vg db Or vg db o one if you've got multiple so just different naming schemes So we're going to give it a name and then we're going to reference And technically we're referencing that physical volume now because we've created that but we give it the same location So it's slash dev slash vdb And of course I was wrong Wait, what? Did you say and is it Oh, uh, no argument. Okay. Um, so it's I'm thinking lvm Okay, so vg create the name of our volume group and then the Uh, then the location of the physical volume. So no dash To exit zeros. I like it. All right. Yep And uh, as as typical with linux commands No, uh, no feedback is is good. And so now this is where things get a little bit interesting Uh, so logical volumes. This gives you a lot of This gives you a lot of flexibility when it comes to creating file systems In in a perfect world, you'd have a different separate file system for every Every aspect of your system whether that's slash temp Because you don't want someone coming in and doing some kind of uh, some kind of a data dump into slash temp that brings your system down So you in a perfect world, you'd want to separate that out Um slash var slash log is another, uh, one that's pretty That I've seen very often can take down my servers. Oh, yeah, because you'll you'll get that one You'll get that one administrator or developer or somebody who's doing some work on the box Changes their application or the networking service or something to debug and then just Walk away You come back a couple hours later and your system's unresponsive And then when you when you actually get logged in you realize, oh My my disk is full. So you start drilling down. You do Uh, you do some du commands to see, uh What's uh, what directories are Had consumed all the disk might it be the logs? Oh slash var slash log Is taking up 200 gigs worth of space That's probably a problem and think about it. Those are those are text files Right like sadly. Sadly. I've seen that huge. Oh completely full Yeah 100 gigs 200 gigs worth of worth of uh debug logs. It's it's great And all of a sudden your multi thousand dollar server is brought to its knees because the disks are full. Go figure Um slash home is another one. That's uh, that's pretty good to That's pretty good to to kind of cordon off Yeah, um, and in fact when you, uh I I can't look at the chat anymore It just turned it off just turn it off. I'll keep an eye on that's that's awesome up graph scaling and that's fantastic Yeah, so that's becoming a tweet. I'm sorry No, that's okay. That's that's where my brain's at today. I'm context switching. It's it's fun So in a perfect world, you'd want to try and separate some of these things out And if your application lives and slash opt or slash serve, uh, you you want a separate file system for each of those Uh, and in fact, there's certain, uh, certain certifications security certifications like like HIPAA or FIPS Or PCI is another big one that require those file systems to exist Otherwise they say nope You can't take credit card transactions across the server because it's not separated correctly So a lot of times when you look at a certification like a FIPS or like a HIPAA and you've got all these different, uh file systems Uh requirements, then you're looking at something like LVM So if we do a man LVM2, I believe Nope Just LVM There we go. So if you do a man on LVM man stands for manual So what's great is before the internet and google became a systems administrator's best friend You could get all of the manual all the docs all the instructions command examples using the man command and Not only does it give you information on specific commands, but it also gives you high level stuff like this LVM File tells you different It tells you different commands that are available different arguments that go with those commands uh use cases for it so If you look, uh, there's like LV resize there towards the bottom To where you can resize a logical volume And LVM came into play because as discs got bigger and bigger and bigger I remember my first, uh, SSD was 128 gigs and it was probably 500 bucks Uh, but now I typically don't buy actually now. I don't buy anything smaller than a terabyte So as as discs got bigger we needed more flexibility with our file systems So one day you've got uh one day you might need more space and far log another day You might need to increase your database size So LVM allows you to create logical partitions between your different discs Um, so you can you can slice and dice uh one disc you can put multiple discs into a group together And you can you can do that using LVM So to kind of finish up our example the hard way we're going to do an LV create And then we're going to Um on top of the man command you can actually do a you can do LV create dash dash help And that'll give you an output of just the arguments for uh for that command So like right here towards the bottom to create a new LV um Actually, that's uh create a cache fall, but uh, we're not going to do that today because I don't want to confuse everyone mostly myself, but there's different Uh, there's different approaches. So uh different cache falls or to add to a certain pool So you get a bunch of different options, uh use cases right there on the command line right in your terminal But what we're going to do is I'm going to do this from memory So we want what we want to do is Uh do an LV create So we've got our hardware. We've got our physical volume. We've got our volume group now We're going to create a logical volume that only exists within software So if you were to take this out and to put add it in as a secondary disc on another system It's not going to understand what you're talking about because this this exists within software And so what we're going to do is an LV create and then uh, we're going to Okay, so out of complete doesn't work just yet. So what we're going to do is a dash beat and do 100 percent free So what that's going to do is we're going to specify our volume group our date of all that we uh, that we determined earlier And it's going to take up all the anything that hasn't been allocated to another uh, logical volume We're actually going to add in uh, we're actually going to include in this logical volume And then this is where we do the the the dash dash in So we'll just call it LV data logical volume data. Um, and then we're going to specify our We're going to specify our virtual disc. So, uh We call it data ball Yeah, oops. I think that's a capital B Let me just like let me let me grab my note. This is why we have these. Oh, it's a it's a capital dash l That's why double check my command Yeah, dash l 100 free Actually, um So you can do the 100 free or you can specify a logical volume size So if we if we've got a 32 gig disc and we want 28 gigs Uh for this LV data partition and then maybe we've got an LV log partition then we can do There's several different ways to specify how big you can even if you're super hardcore Old school sys admin you can actually specify extents But because I I think very visually I can I can picture 28 things of 32 So using using gigs or megabytes or 100 free Makes it really easy to to use So now we've got our hardware our physical our and then our Virtual group and then our logical volume. So now We've just got two more steps. See this is this is definitely the hard way The second disc I added on on purpose and to think this is a regular thing So sadmonds have to do all the time and by the way, if you take the certification like chris, uh mentioned earlier There's a good chance that this is going to be on that exam So we've got our logical volume. It's ready to go. Uh, it's LV data So what we want to do is we want to do a make fs. That's make file system and Xfs is for better or worse. I'm not trying to start a holy war for better or worse I tend to use xfs on my uh systems here at home So I'm going to do a make file system exit fs And then under dev mapper dev mapper is a part of the of the lvm to stack Um, it's basically creates common names That you can point to so instead of pulling out a 25 26 character uh uuid Which is really fun to do when you're on a console and you don't have copy paste You can specify via uuid or Or you can use the dev mapper, which is kind of a common name shortcut think of it at almost almost Like dns names versus ip addresses. It's kind of the same same idea. Give it something human readable So we know that the volume group dash Then the logical volume name. So it should be data ball dash lv data And then this depending on the size of the disc that you're working with It usually comes through fairly quickly. So now that logical volume actually has a file system on it So it's not just ones and zeros now the operating system can actually make uh can actually Write content to that uh to that logical volume so the The last step part a See how see how complicated this is the last step part a is to mount the file system. So we want to mount dev mapper Data ball dash lv data to say slash serve Now if I were now if we do uh, if we list the file systems down at the bottom, we can see that we have 28 gigs Uh mounted at slash serve and there's there's our dev mapper um, so if we do a touch serve slash Hello world dot text Now we see that file, but if I do if I unmount that file system Slash serve And then look our file is gone And what happened to oh, I don't know Let's find um, so Last step part b is we want this file system to mount on reboot and of course then it's not found Just the eye. Wow. You just totally fresh box this didn't there I I did well with with the amount of trouble we had with with this this the last time I just like I'm blowing it all away. It makes sense. That's cool I called it data ball Yeah flash lv data. So we want to tell it where We'll do mount uh dash serve Then xfs for file system Just take the defaults and we don't need uh, we don't need to do a disc check We can talk about that another day But this is a typical layout for an entry in etsy fs tab fs tab handles the discs and partitions on boot so The top line handles uh slash so the the root file system directory The next the next line there is uh the efi partition Part of the boot process. So now the the line that we just added handles the slash serve And uh points to uh data ball dash lv data. So that's that's the discs that we've been working with So now if we write that file Kind of give us some space here and then do a mount dash a mount dash a says dash all basically And what that does is it tells your operating system go in and reread that etsy fs tab file So if we do a mount dash a And then we go check our serve directory our text file is back So you can go through all of that and even lots of rigmarole Yeah, yeah, lots lots of uh lots of command line kung fu and as you can see even I forget some of the command line arguments or Or Package or whatever. Yeah, um usually helps if uh usually helps if you're uh, So, yeah, I mean you've shown us you've shown us how to do it now show to show us how to do it under diverse And and that's what we just did I think so. Um, I mean I didn't have them installed didn't have lvm 2 But it'll fix this lvm go fix this lvm problem First problem. It's not installed Well, sadly that's that's happened. I'm sure it has So you can run through all of that and it's great fun or See this is this is why I don't like uh, how cockpit initially positioned themselves as the uh as the um Sort of that window. Yeah, thank you sort of the new administrator approach to managing things because This is a brand new box. Yeah. Yeah It's got nothing on it. So So what you're looking at is the redhead enterprise linux web UI. It's based on cockpit and cockpit has a bunch of extra modules add-ons And one of those I believe is cockpit dash storage Which gives us the ability to manage our storage from a web UI and of course there's not so we're going to do I can't tell you how many times we've had to do a tnf search cockpit dash There is storage d. Yeah, sorry I know I Probably should caught that one as many times as I've installed it Right Yeah, I'm definitely with you there Um, so it's going to install the cockpit dash storage d and then Interesting. Oh, there we go. Okay. Um, so the next thing we're going to have to do is we're going to have to do a system ctl restarts And log back in yeah So I wish I could say that uh, all this was on purpose The uh, these are these are teachable moments, but uh, no, I just forget things like and make sure lvm2 is installed Yeah, okay. So now Now we log back into the web UI and we've got our storage option Yep And truth be told I had probably forgot about the storage d package because I usually run an ansible playbook against all of my labs That sets all this up for me Right Because I am a scatterbrain systems administrator. So But with the web UI with the storage plugin, we can see our lv data Uh already mounted we can see that it's using practically nothing of 28 gigs so Was that in mind? We're going to scroll over And we can see the actual drives that are installed on the system So you can either run 27 different commands Of which each of the command line arguments are just slightly different enough to be painful Or we can come into the web UI go into the storage plugin and we can come to that 16 gig Drive that we saw earlier And we can get all of the information Right here in front of us. So there's it says is unrecognized data because there's no file system on this device So what we can do is we can actually create a partition table. We can format the disk And I believe it's under format that we can Determine whether to zero out the entire disk XFS is the recommended default We can do lv logs And we can put that at slash log We can do a mount now we can set it to read only so if we don't want to be able to write to the disk It can mount as a read only um, but Of course, I say it's easy and then I forgot to step So we have that option right from the disk, but if we want to add it to our existing If we want to add it to our existing physical volume group We can do that fairly easily Because we'll come in here to our devices into data vol We're going to come over here to physical volumes I'm going to add a physical volume to that and it's already says. Oh, hey, you've got a virtual disk here Or you've got a uh, you've got a physical disk here that hasn't been added to a physical volume Would you like to add it just click the checkbox click add And now instead of running that pv create command We've already got a dev vdc physical volume just with a couple of clicks then if we go We didn't want to click on that. Sorry, then we want to create a new logical volume We can call it lv Let's recognize file systems Oh, here's something I wanted to point out was that you can actually thinly provision a file system Which means that even though you're only using Even if you create a disk that's 20 gigs in size you can actually You can you can specify that a file system's 20 gigs in size But you'll only be using the actual storage space within The device so you create a 20 gig thinly provisioned file system And if you're only using two gigs of that then you're only using two gigs on the disk So it gives you some space, especially in a non production environment to over provision It's not quite recommended for production use unless you know exactly what you're doing Um But this allows you to to kind of resize volumes on on the fly But we're just going to do a we're just going to do a block device for now So we're going to create that logical volume which will add our So we didn't we we have We created 28 gigs On our on our other disk And so we've got 16 that leaves four left over that's where the 20 gigs came from we're going to create that lv log So now within our within our volume group We've got two volumes. We've got a 28 gig lv data and we've got a 20 gig lv log So now if we come in here, it should still show as unrecognized but right from right from here we can go through and we can create Let's call it logs because we're super original And we'll just put it in slash logs for now. We're going to mount now and format so what that's done Is it's gone in and just with that one screen That was like three or four of the steps that we did manually So now if you come and look at your your file systems here We can see that we've got our lv data with 28 gigs We've got our logs final system That's using 20 gigs of data and then we've got our root partition that's Using two and a half gigs out of almost 64 So it's so much easier to use the web UI than it is to jump through all the different commands all the different arguments the There there is a I don't think I'm I'm Saying that the command line isn't important because there could be more advanced use cases That would benefit from using the command line There's there's a whole bunch of arguments that are available within the command line and use cases That aren't in the web UI either yet aren't going to be supported Like I I believe it was just a version or two ago that support for raid volumes was added to the web UI so before about a year or so ago If you wanted to actually do a raid array you had to do it on the command line And then after after you'd established your raid and created the physical volume group Then you could come into uh into cockpit and actually create those Actually create those partitions using the web UI all right, so um Where do we go from here? I guess is the question How do we help people? Just remember the steps right like because you still have to like remember the order right For me one of the best things to do is just remember you start with the hardware And then because you're talking about physical hardware That gives you physical hardware physical volume And then Then we're going more into the software side of things so think virtual and then logical because you're Nice So it's it's easiest to remember you're going from from Concrete to more abstract so hardware physical volume virtual volume and then a logical or Volume group and then a logical volume on top of that Of course, then you just need to remember that there's a file system on top of the the logical volume um, honestly the the best thing to do is to ensure that that you keep good notes My my evernote my apple notes my and now my joplin Some of those notes if if you track their history back are probably 12 years old 14 years old it's it's good to have those those quick hitting I only do this once every six months kind of thing in order to uh to remember the Remember those certain specific Uh procedures So like when when I was trying to do the lv command I literally opened up joplin did a search for lv create and the only result and all of my notes was A one note you needed Right. Yeah Luckily it took me right to the part of the note where I said hey genius. It's it's dash l not dash b Um, so I mean it it is confusing. I will grant you but yeah No, like having to do this like on the fly while on call before is not fun because law Do fill up overnight sometimes, right? Yeah, it's great It's great when you have your headset on Or or back in my day. You're you're you're doing this with your phone And and your boss is yelling at you and you're trying to remember what the arguments are Yeah, it's it's great fun to try and do this under duress I mean even just doing this on a on a casual live stream Was uh, it was challenging apparently It helps to install lvm too by the way. Yeah, that's that's a good start to any lab about lvm. Um Awesome, so a little a little riffraff in in chat I wrote off sorry for that folks. Um Moving along here any tips or tricks other than that, you know Concrete to more virtual thing here or and and hey just install cockpit, you know Really under duress just install cockpit. You can uninstall it when you're done kind of thing if you know push comes to shove, right? Like right It's faster to do that than try and remember everything and if you screw up something oh god, you know Yeah, not that I've ever uh, not that I've ever had to redeploy a vm or not that I've I have lost data And then reinstalled it or uninstalled it when I was done just so the audit wouldn't come in and go. What's this? What is this web server thing here? Yeah, no, I have I am smart enough now to know that this is data sensitive operations and yeah, sometimes there's a way to be safe about that in a very literal sense To some of the more seasoned administrators out there Don't be too proud to use the best tool for the job And if you're a very visual person like myself, it's easier for me to look in and see I have these disks They're mounted here They have the nice blue bar that tells me exactly how much space is available Don't don't be too proud to use the easier tool. There's there's this stigma about why would I take shortcuts or use automation To to do this thing. I I have to I have to beat myself up with these command line arguments No, you don't see in a perfect world. You would have just shown off a playbook that asks you the right arguments Right like seriously, right like you can automate this this this is you know And you can you can say oh, this is always my disaster scenario is adding more disk from the file You know the filer that's off in the data center Adding more disk to this lvm group you could literally just create an as well playbook to do that when the alert fires add more disks done You know, all right like Or you know purge logs, whatever you want to be Yeah, but yeah, we didn't and I'm not even set up to to do this at the moment But we didn't even talk about things like log rotate or just yeah That would probably be a good topic is what are some of the common maintenance things outside of say patching that That assist admin might do log rotate is a big one because yeah If you deal with databases on your systems or any kind of like High churn kind of thing log rotates a big deal right and doing that right and doing it well is a big deal So that is a good idea for a show All right, I got no questions here just a lot. I got I got no Yeah, I got no no questions in the chat. So do we want to move on to a couple of Housekeeping items some a couple of announcements that we've got Yeah, sure go ahead Kind of announced once you got so, uh, I wouldn't be much of a technical marketing manager if I didn't say that uh Go to lab.redhat.com Because we have a growing list of activities similar to this one. Uh, there's one on file permissions There's one on uh using image builder to create a template Uh, so there's there's a bunch of different things to do at lab.redhat.com. It's free You don't have to pay anything. You don't have to sign up. You just go in kick off a terminal a lot of times we A lot of times we use lab.redhat.com on this show. Yeah For our our live demonstrations and frankly those have proven to work better than my home lab, but Uh, but needless to say I I assigned myself a task of creating a disk management Uh lab when we started planning for this episode So you'll be able to do kind of what we did today on your own without having to spend any money or spend up any resources So there's that Then the other kind of housekeeping thing I wanted to mention or not housekeeping Was uh rel 8.5 is coming. Uh, so as our labs recently have been Fort, but we've gone to a uh a standard release cadence. So every six months, there's a new minor version every three years There's a new major version So as of yesterday, I believe Rel 8.5 beta is out and if you have a red hat subscription Or a red hat developer subscription either one you can now get access to the 8.5 beta One of our episodes probably in november will be about what's new in rel 8.5. What are some of the cool new things you can do? So the the beta is out now The actual release date is about mid november I'd have to double check Everything i've done is around the beta so far. So I knew yesterday. I know that feeling. I know that feeling trust me It's problem, but I don't know when the actual release is Future eric to remember And then uh, we we probably should have led with this but we just kind of dove into our topic But uh, this show as of today Is a year old Yes, it's pretty cool to have been doing this and it's it's gone through two hosts, right like Name show i'm not here Not sure if we want to celebrate Well, no, I mean, but like it it shows you the you know sustainability of it all right like It just takes somebody that knows rel to run the show right like right that's that's really the the key here Uh, I think the key is more Who doesn't mind when his lab blows up in the middle of a demo That's true too. You kind of have to be able to sacrifice your home lab at any given moment I uh, yeah, I distinctly remember an episode with scott where uh, The the episode's guest actually had to jump in and say oh here your demo broke no problem I've I've been playing with this all morning. So here's mine So I think there's a certain amount of resilience that that's required Nice All right, so we've got get off sky to the galaxy cone up here at the top the or anything else Uh, that's all I had. Did you uh, did you have anything left to share? I mean, uh, we announced it yesterday on the channel, but folks i'm i'm i'm leaving red hat to take an opportunity elsewhere My last day is the 18th of october Um, I I can point you to the interview that stu minimum did With me yesterday where we talked about all things, you know Open shift tv, you know More than a year later, right? Like we have actual recurring shows that are turning a year old Royal presents is a perfect example, but You know asking open shift to admin get off sky to the galaxy Those are all turned a year old a couple, you know weeks ago and So yeah, it was kind of a nice episode to talk about the progress and then also to say that yes I am leaving the company here on the 18th. So I'll see you at cube com but uh Yeah, that's that's all I got for now And thank you for dropping that link to the beta Appreciate it. No problem so Do you want to wrap or you good? Well, I just wanted to say thank you for for getting this Up and running because this this will be our last episode together, but but never fear if if you're watching this I I intend to keep keep this going. I'm looking for a I'm I'm going to be looking for a co-host to to help me out and we'll we'll keep this going In fact, I think we're looking at writing up a listener survey to kind of get your all's feedback and and make this show better Um, obviously once I'm done rebuilding my lab. We won't have that problem as much, but So never fear rel presents is is uh is going to continue We'll just miss uh, we'll just miss you, uh, chris. We'll have to bring you back on as a as a as a guest or something Okay, or just uh, just do a roast of you in a in a few months that works too But with that that's uh That's all I have except for uh, if if you're watching on twitch and you haven't heard there was a big uh security breach So reset your password. Yes, please. That's that's I haven't been forced upon you already Right. Yeah, that's that's our our public service announcement for this episode, but other than that that's all I got chris All right, well awesome. Thanks for a great show eric and coming up next on the channel get off guide to the galaxy We're going to be talking about advanced cluster security or advanced container security So hang on tight or as james samuel jackson said in uh, Jurassic park hold on to your butts So stay safe out there and see you soon. We'll talk to y'all later