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That's why Boss Talk, the number one syndicated podcast out of all of them because none of them do this right here, man. I got my boy Bad News and special guest, Pokey Bown here for the first time. Big Pokey Bown, big Pokey Bowns in the house, man. Well, it's been a long time coming, man. Long time coming. Awesome, bruh. It's been a blessing, man, y'all. I appreciate the love I get from all the people around the country, you understand me? What we doing, everything. What's about bad news right now, you feel me? Man. I mean, everybody be on point. You understand what we doing right now with this JSP situation, you feel me? Man, bad news, man. You know me and you, we talk all the time. We talk a lot. Like family, man. Man, I ain't gonna lie, I be watching you and I don't know who that little old lady is with no back that you had on that video. I don't know. I don't know. She the infamous, bad and nobody. She the infamous. Look, she the infamous crooked. They call her crooked. Infamous, crooked. I'm looking for her. I'm looking for her. I can't find out what you talking for me. I'm looking for her. My first scene of, I was like, what the hell, bad news, you know, didn't even get to pull the move on, man. Can you make it a roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll, roll. Man, I ain't say, not have a good time, man. Just basically watching that fun and energy y'all boys were praying. And after that, she kept going. Because I'm back. Yeah, she ain't gonna stop, man. She's all the time, man. What's up, what's up, what's up? I said, fly out of there. You gonna learn today. Everybody know her. A lot of people, when you, when you read them comments, everybody, oh, that's miss Cricut, that's Cricut. I'm like, man, everybody know her, bro. Everybody know her, bro. Everybody know her, bro. I said to myself, who the hell is this woman? I said, this, this boy done got a woman with no back. Just straight up coming up to her. And then she gone flex on the shit. She gone, she gone, then she drove to the front, her whole back hit the curb and she popped back up. I said, what the hell, bro? Man, y'all different, man. Like I said. Like Pogo, I told you, man, you got to sell yourself, man. You got to sell it. You got to sell it, man. You got to sell it. You got to sell yourself, man. You got to sell yourself, man. You got to sell it. Man, you guys, y'all come together for a lot of different things, but I know how my wife is. You want to know a little bit about him? Yes, yes. OK, you didn't know Poked Bear is my wife. I know a lot about my bad news. We know my bad news, he family, man. We don't know where he from and all that. We don't know. You been to learn today. So, Poked, where are you from? Poked Bear is from. I'm from Pine Grove, Louisiana. Hey! Love is out of this. I am from the Oscars of Baton Rouge. You feel me? And I'm a country boy. You know what I'm saying? Man, sell it. Lay it back, lay it back. You know what I'm saying? I don't do nothing. You know what I'm saying? I'm just all about my music. You know what I'm saying? I love the blues and I love Southern Soul. I love rap. I love all that. You know what I'm saying? Even coming to music, you're dealing with bad. You can't miss it. So, where did you love music from? Did you get it from your mama, daddy? Who inspired you to love it? I think it kind of started in church. Church? Yeah, yeah. You know, I'm from, you know what I'm saying? So, you had to go to church? You gotta go to church. Okay. And Monday, Wednesday, Friday, we were preparing for Sunday. So, we had revivals. We had all kind of stuff. That's why I got the music into my veins of what I like to do. And I always wanted to be a vocalist. I mean, you know, I could have played keyboard, I could have played drums, I could have played anything, but that never thrilled me. I always wanted to be the one on the mic. Man. Sing. Nothing else mattered to me. I just wanted to be on the mic. So, you did a lot of solos in church? Of course I did. Of course I did. Yes, I did. Yes, I did. And it kind of led to when I went to high school, when I got to high school. Okay. You know, you do the talent shows and stuff like that. So my thing was, I got to kill the talent show. Whatever song was, I got to kill the talent show. We had to do it. And I kind of got into that. And then once I got out of high school, I had a chance. I could have went to Southern University for four years. I had a scholarship. And my music was working so well at that time, I was like... Scholarship for music? Yes. Okay. No, no, not for music. Well, what did you get a scholarship for? Just to go to school. Okay. And you know, but I started doing music and they started liking me then. And I got an opportunity to go to L.A. Hmm. Who reached out to you? Yeah. Do you remember? No, the person that reached out to me. Dornell Jones. Oh, wow. He reached out to me at that time. And no, Starter Meyer. I'm so sorry. Not Jones, Starter Meyer. He reached out to me and I went to L.A. Which I already had my auntie stand out there. So that was kind of like a scapegoat. So I ain't had to worry about... Hotel or no one has to say. Okay. So once I came out there, my people didn't even know about it. Hmm. I never told them. And I went out there and I went in the studio and I done my thing and it was terrible. Really? You bombed. It was, I bombed. Because you were nervous. No. I'm gonna be out with you. It was terrible. I thought my career was over. I said, I ain't even got no career. I didn't came all the way to L.A. I stuck out in L.A. This is gonna be the dumb way. I ain't no way. This is gonna be the dumb way. I take a break from school and I had to turn down the Pell Grant all that shit. You ready? I'm sorry. So you were about 1920. Yeah, I was 18. 18 as time. 18 and all. So I stayed there and I was a rapper. I was hip hop. Oh, okay. So I kept going and I met different producers and nothing ever worked in L.A. I tried it. I tried it over and over again and it just never worked in L.A. How long did you stay? I stayed in L.A. eight years. Wow. Wow. Stayed that long trying and nothing popped off. South Central L.A., Gardena L.A., West Side L.A., East Side L.A., Pocate Bay. Y'all remember me? And you didn't go, so you didn't get drawn up in all these gangs and stuff? I got fortunate. God keep blessing me through all the turmoil and all that. I want to, no one should keep God in your life. You gonna love that. I love that. I'm just saying. And what happened was, I used to work security for a strip club. And they had rap shows doing the thing. So the guy, the owner, he told him Pocate can, he can kill it. And they like, what the fuck? So I did a show there at the strip club. At the strip club? Hell yeah. I didn't rap, you ain't even got to pick it out. I didn't rap, I sung. Oh, what did you say? What the hell did you say, Pocate Bay? I'm not saying this. What did you say? The radio. I sung something and then people was like, he ain't no Robbie King. Now all this time, I've been trying to be a rapper. I wanted to be like, run DMC, LL, Koo Jay, and all the guys in my show. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. And I didn't realize that I was saying. That night you did. But that night, that particular night, I'll sing. And I sung, y'all wouldn't believe it. I sung R. Kelly's song. Which one? Step in my room, play a play, nigga, we're out of here. Bumper guy. Bumper guy. I sung R. Kelly's song. Slow jail. Slow jail. Yeah, I had to put it down, didn't you? Hey, Mr. DJ. I sang R. Kelly's song. I'll sing it all in there. It's a strip club, right? Yeah. So I'm all in the mood. Because you know the dance, you couldn't sing it without the dance. You got the dance. So you giving the whole show? Good. I done that song. Ever since then, everybody been trying to give me the studio. That's all I was. But at the same time, I was going through personal situations and I ended up moving to Denver, Colorado. Denver, Colorado, out of all places. Denver. Yes, I did. Before we were legal. I moved. Denver, Colorado, out of 20, 20 by 25, 26. But is there a motion out there? No. I went out there, you know, with my girl and stuff. Oh, with your girl? Yeah. I was doing good. I was doing good with my little music, doing the little local clubs. And I was just singing other people's songs. OK. And I wanted to be more than that. I'm like, I'm tired of singing, you know, saying these other people's songs. I want to sing other. I want to sing my own songs. But what are you writing at that time? I started writing, you know, two. No, no, 19. I'm going to 19. 19. Don't do that. 19 was some good years, right? Is it OK? Six. Oh, that's that's OK. That's when I started writing. And I came on my first time. I called it my first I was to kill you. My first time, I was I wasn't Pocky Bear again. Yeah. What was your first name? Big Pocky. Big Pocky. And when I done that album, it was like it was straight rap. No, no singing or nothing. Straight rap. And in Colorado, they was more like on the East Coast. You know, it's like they like the East Coast rap. So it was like, man, I'm from the South. No, I don't rap like that. So I had to compete with those guys. And it worked out, because it was different. But at the same time, it didn't sell. It was like, yeah, no one wanted to pick me up because I was different. Wow. All that what I'm saying right now is what I'm telling y'all. God is good, y'all. Let me change something. I did all that traveling and struggling and going out there to different states, trying to make it big. I didn't make it until I came back home. That's hard, man. When I came back home to Baton Rouge, Louisiana, had never stayed there before. I told you I'm from Pine Grove. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when I went to Baton Rouge, it was like a Baton Rouge city. What year was it? 99. OK. And I went out there and I had never heard their music. Like I said, they don't play that in Denver. So when I came to Baton Rouge, it was like... Different. How you do that there? Who's that? Who's that? I'm like, who? I love that. What's going on here? No. I was like, yeah, OK. So when they got to sing it, I was like, OK. It wasn't all that. I didn't sing it. So I said, OK, this is my path right here. I'm going to do singing. But that's when my first dose took, Southern Soul Blues. Who was it? How did you end up in Southern Soul Blues? Southern Soul Blues, Jackie Neal, the Neal family embraced me and brought me in, man. And Jackie Neal passed away over a bad situation. Her nephew took him down his wing. And I've been singing Southern Soul ever since. Ever since. Let me, that's why you and this dang bad news get along so good because you used to rap. So you used to rap. Yeah, so you see this now, you're like, OK, OK. That's it. I don't rap no more, but I like this. I don't make it work. We're going to make it work, don't worry about it. We're going to make it work. And in the chamber business, one thing about in the chamber business, Southern Soul and Blues has been stretched out so much to where now you have a lot of artists coming out and basically following my path. And I don't complain. I'll take it as it comes. But at the same time, I feel that this Pocky Bear brand, what I'm bringing now is the difference. It's a difference. It's showing you a different path. It's showing you about love, it's showing you about hate, showing you about cheating, showing you about winning, showing you about losing. But when it comes to my music, it's all about something you can relate to. I don't sing about me. I sing about what I see. I sing about the people that lost their daddy or lost their mom or someone that went to prison that took care of his family, but he had to go to prison because of a situation he couldn't. I talk about the people behind the walls that can't stand here behind his mic behind me right now, you know what I'm saying? I talk about all the people behind the walls because I've been behind the walls. So I let people know it's real, I tell them. Being black in America is a situation. I just did a show last weekend for black rights, you know what I'm saying? For the people in Georgia, a man that went through the black holocaust, you understand me? And when you go out there, you really get a different perspective on what's really going on, you know? And every time I go on that stage, I try to set an example for a young man that is just disturbed and don't know what to do. He see me and be like, if he can do it, I can do it. I can do it. I got to ask you about this banger, man. Are you feeling me? Yes. That's why I say y'all come together. Are you feeling me? When I met bad dude, I told bad dude, you're a rapper. I don't really deal with rappers. I say, let me do the hook. I gave him how some will give you a hook right now. But you're going to have to sell it. What's the first thing I told you? Anything we do, what you got to do? You got to sell it. It's not, we can do anything in the studio. It could be a plant in the middle, in the studio. But can you sell it? And you got to be in a relationship while you're selling it. And build them relationships. And once he took that, he's an uncle poker. I got you. So you gave him the are you feeling me for? I gave him nothing. That young man paid for it. No, no, no, no, don't talk about the hook that you gave him. The young man ain't come here stunting. He was really serious about his craft. And he was trying to do it. And he asked me for help. I told him my price. He paid it. That's all. So I gave him what he asked for. OK. But when you gave him the hook, what did you just argue feeling me? And then he went, wrote you feeling me off of what he had already shown me. OK. OK. So I said, I know you gave him a little bit. You know, this young man had already had the song. OK. I just put some flavor to what he already had. Got it. You understand me? And it ended up being something we never thought. We end up doing a video in Florida. In Florida. I was there. I was there. Let's talk about it. That was us. It was lovely. That was all. It was bite week, too. It was all on the scooters. And everything. We had fun. You know what I'm saying? Got a little water. Got a little water. That was awesome for that video. And that was y'all vision for it. It came out exactly. No, it wasn't. Everybody just came to get up. That's the same time as someone went down. I'm getting booked. You know, I'm working. So we was, it happened to be in Florida. I said, let's do the video. He has camera, man. I say, go to work. We went and got to rent a real thing. Because you're going to rent. You know how Florida, you rent all this stuff. Yeah. You rent all this stuff around. The rigs, and everything. See, it was just all on the fly. All on the fly. Wow. And we did the video. And after that, we dropped that a week later. It was on the, and I think we got about. Mm, 21,000 views in about eight days. Wow. That they moved fast. And we were just, I think we were messing around. It was just like, we was just doing something just to see what it would happen. Yeah, and it just came together. It wasn't like we planned for it or, you know, rehearsed for it. It was just like, let's do a video. And it came together. How long did it take you to come up with the song? Yeah, about 20 minutes, man. Don't take me about 10 minutes to write a song. I don't write. I don't write. See, and he don't write. So how you got to do a video? I don't write. And he's just going in. I don't write music. I'm going to let all you artists know right now. You got to, if you got to put something on pen and pad, you got some hustling, you little young man. I don't write on no pen and pad. I play the beat. And I'm going to sing. And he's going to sing, yeah. And proof of the word, I got video to prove this. I never write on paper. But how long does it take you? Like when you go, when you had to be. Don't take me about last song, about 25 minutes, 30 minutes. Really? Because after that, we worked together. We was working as a team. I said, OK, man, he said, what did you say about that? You're like, pay that back. I like that. Add this. No, no, no, I do that. And I do that. He did it with that. Yeah. I don't write on paper. I got to write on paper. I don't like the song. How did you come up with side piece? Yeah, let's talk about that. I love that song. That's a big song. How in the hell did you come up with that poker bag? Who went through that? Who went through that? You a bad nigga. Listen, that song right there said all. I'm going to tell you about something. Mom, when I grew up, my grandfather, he was a monster, bro. Oh, that's what it was about. That's what it was about. He was a proper LC. Proper LC was a monster, bro. I'll tell you, bro. And, uh, I got a lot of cousins. How in the hell did this song come about, man? But, um, this young rapper came to me. Um, Coach Rankard. He was doing rapping also at the same time. And he brought me this song. He said, I got a song. And, um, heavy was the producer at the time. And he was like, we got a rap song. We want you to sing the hook. I was, OK. So when I heard the song, I was like, I don't see it. I don't think that's. I don't see that going to work, man. Ain't nobody going to buy that, man. I said, man, I need to sing that. I was already doing such a song. I'm like, bro, let me do my thing on it. And you tell me what you think. He said, OK, I'm going to try that. I took me about 25 minutes. I had to do two eights. No, two sixteens. I did two sixteens. And after I done the two sixteens, I see, check this out. And when they heard the first verse and the second verse, it was like, kill the rap. You got to give me a little piece of that side piece. Side piece was actually. Side piece was actually a rap song. Yeah, because that's a hell of a rap song. Yes, it was a rap song. I know. And they already released it. It was already out and it didn't do anything. So they try to come back to me like, Poco, we need you to sing. I'm like, no, don't need to be like that. And when we did it my way, and I blew up, and I'm not going to blow up, it, that song. Bob. How long did it take? About a month. Cause we's a, like I said, we's a band in a small town. But after that month, I got booked to everything. I'm talking about, I'm getting booked out. Cause everybody loved that song. I'm like, you can believe it. I was a little bit of a man, man. I was like, whoa. It was like, I was already had a hot song. They call me Poki. Right. That was hot. I'm in love with the older woman. That was already hot. But when I done something. That, that, that's the biggest. That whole shock to the world. That's how it was. And he took me to everywhere. I was like, whoa. It, it caught me off guard. But it was all in the focus of what I was trying to do, but I didn't think that before. You ain't going to think you have it like that? I don't think it, I don't think it. People ain't going to do no songs. I'm like, she know you want them. Yeah. But when I done it, it's the way you say it. But everybody can listen. It's amazing. But just like you said, things that you sing, somebody out there can relate to it. Yeah. Well, when they asked me to do it, sometimes people say, okay, first thing you're done about my grandfather. And I'm like, okay. So I got to sing it in a way of what I know. So when I say, I must have got it from my daddy. Cause it's all in my jeans. See I'm addicted to banana. And you know what I mean. You see a rat with one hole. He's a poor rat, poor rat. But I ain't willing to love love. I ain't going out like that. And that's what I'm about to do. Man. That's how my grandpa. Naturally, how about grandpa? I know that song in 25 minutes was done. I think the hook is where that catch me. That's that, that's that hook. Man. I left home. My grandpa left home a minute and my papa, my daddy, my uncles. That's all we got. That's how we was raised. It's a country, man. That's all we got. So how you didn't fall in that footsteps? I'm fortunate to be in a situation where I, when I grew up, it was all about education. So I had to get my education together. Once I got my education together, I had to make a charge to go to college or do you. I decided to do me. So I took my education that I got from high school and I took to California. I went to electronic college in California and it just wasn't, it was teaching by computers and stuff like that and that wasn't my thing. So I quit. Wow. And I quit and after that, I got me a job. And I've been working ever since. I got a question. I know that like earlier, you were talking about that everything that you write, you write about other people's situation, things that people talk about so far. Yeah, I wrote about things that naturally happen. But okay, for rappers though, a lot of rappers always say, a lot of things that they rap about is always about them, what they've been through in their situation. They don't rap about, it's like the feel like if they're rapping about somebody else's situation, they're being fake. Let's switch up. So how do you like, the things that you rap into, yeah, no, I'm talking to bad news. So yeah, so the things that you rap within the Southern soul, Southern blues, you know, when you're mixing it, is everything that you're rapping about, about you, because if you're adding pieces to what he is in his part, it's not really about you. No, like me, my rap is different. See, my rap ain't the gangsta rap. See, like the gangsta rap, you tell me you got a hundred bricks, a hundred million dollars, did that. My rap about making a woman feel good. I'm trying to talk their panties off. And I can do that very well. So I'm rapping about me and a hundred other dudes out here. Anybody got a woman, anybody got a side piece, or anybody just got a little fling, you know? And don't get it confused now. He is fortunate enough to be with a person that, I told him, don't isolate yourself. You're not in no, see, they like to put you in a box. And they put you in this box and they categorize you and say that you're this type of person. Well, my nephew came to me with that, I was like, no, if that's what you wanna do, we gonna do it. I don't call it his version of music. I don't call it blues. I call it music. It's different. And we're balancing it in between those two different situations, R&B, Southern Soul, and Blues. Because if you listen to all the other artists that's out right now, listen to it, categorize it all you want to. They sound the same way, but they can't do it like what we're doing. We're doing something different. We're keeping that Southern Soul blend and then my nephew coming with that rap that sounded just like any other rapper that do all the... Nah, boo, boo, boo, nah, nah. We don't do that. Yeah, we don't do that. We talk about love. Yeah, all right. We talk about problems. We talk about families. We talking about real life. No, we ain't talking about all that. We talking about real stuff. So we don't like to categorize our stuff. When you talk about bad news, I don't want you to look at bad news because trying to come into Blues and check. No, no, he's come into Blues showing his style because the other market ain't open. You understand me? Yeah, that's all. That's how it works. That's all. So we got to have an opening and guess who gave him the open big poke and bow. Well, well. As long as my nephew keep breathing, he gonna always have an outlet with me. Me in that word that you heard that. Me. Me. Me. You alone in the door. Poke it, bro. How'd you come up with good foot? Good foot, baby. Good foot. James Brown? What? James Brown, baby. Oh, yeah. You better do this. You better do this. You better do this. You better do this. You better do this. I'm gonna say what's she doing. No, he gotta solve. I'm gonna say I'm gonna have to come like James Brown. I'm gonna have to come like James Brown on this when they say what you mean, poke. I say turn to y'all then push the button. And I get on the good foot. Ay. Get on the good foot. Ay. Break it down on the scene. Ay. Like you a sex machine. Hmm. Baby. Get on the good foot. Wee. Get on the good foot. Break it down on the scene. Like you a sex machine. Wait a minute, baby. Man. Big poke it back. Big poke it back. You gonna learn today. Listen, man. I entertain all of them. Man. I got more cougars in a little bitch. Boy, you learn today, boy. Say it, man. I'm telling you. My kids folks say, man. You have to talk to Poke Bear. I say, yeah, I talk to Poke Bear. Hell. She say, for real? I'm like, man, I don't damn well if a woman ain't crazy. Oh, fuck her. You have a lot of females. You got a lot of females, man. I'm not a damn man, man. Female. Yes. And 30% of my fans are kids. That's crazy. I'm one of the kids. Sinking myself. But how does a Southern, okay, cause most Southern soul artists cater to females and I've seen on certain Instagram posts and stuff like that when some of them be on stage and you actually see some males jumping up, singing your songs and do, how you feel when you have the males doing all of that? I love it. I love it. I actually love it. When a male jump up and show me respect, say, man, I love you, bro. Man, my wife is your number one fan. Can you shake my hand? Man, man, it's nothing like that feeling, man. Let me tell you something. When it comes to Poker Bear Show, these people come out here to see me cause they know I'm a real, I'm a real brother, bro. I don't, I ain't with all that faith. You know what I'm saying? It's all about love with me, you know what I'm saying? I throw the L's up everywhere I go. Everywhere I go I throw L off. And that L don't stand for no gang. Ain't no gang. The L stands for love. Man. And Louisiana. Hey. So everywhere I go, male, female, I don't care what y'all. You come to see me, I'ma show you love. I swear you have never heard no confrontation with me with no fans. Because the fans come here to see who that. Poker Bear. Poker Bear. Hey. Mama there go that man. There he is. Sounds like a marching band. Sounds like a marching band. Here come Poker Bear. And I, and I, and I, and I, and I, and I. When I do my show, I tell all my fans, I say, I don't do this for me. I do this for you. Because it wasn't for you. Wouldn't be, no me. Man. You gonna learn, they gonna learn today, boy. Man. Say, listen man, you see a lot of people doing the trail rides and stuff. Like, like that's a lot of the people that follow the Southern Soul mark. And like, do y'all think it's gonna be as strong as someone, and this, oh my goodness. You gonna be as strong as someone. What did you just say? Is it gonna be as strong as it's been being, is it never? If I don't be on the B-E-T-O boy. Woo-hoo-hoo-hoo, you telling the truth too. Bye. I'm gonna burn that old damn thing down. I swear to God. Give it back to me. Y'all playing with me. Cause ain't nobody selling out, look at my numbers boy. Look at all my numbers. Ain't no one can stand with me. All you rappers, everybody that's doing your thing. Look at my numbers. I got five number one albums. Five, never been nominated. Man, that's cool. Feel me. And I'm still coming with his. Play with me. No one has done what I've done. And I've not got my credit, but guess what? I don't complain. I just keep working. And you get to learn today. Do you get to fulfill me like from the people? That's how to promote the people. That's how to promote the Z. Yeah. How you think to promote the Z? Cause if people love him, they're going to keep booking him. Yeah. And he ain't trying to. Put me on the ticket baby. Sold out baby. All sold out shows. I ain't never done no unsold out show. Learn the day. Poke it back. Poke it back. You gonna learn the day. Never. Mama that's the whole damn man. Everywhere I go. I booked a show the other day. I had four days to do it. Cause they cancel my show for the weekend. Guess what? Sold it out. Sold it out. Learn the day. The fire department came out. I told the fire department, you want something to eat? No. You want something to eat, but you're the only one. That's what I say. You gonna learn the day, but I'm doing it. You want something to eat? We kid in the game, bro. That's a different word. We kid in the game. They love it. They love it. But you talking about BET Awards and stuff, but how many time BET Awards recognized Southern Soul? I don't know why. I don't know why. They're gonna take guys like me to force the issue. That's why I deal with the hip hop artists. That's why I deal with the other people. Because they're in markets that I can't reach. So guess what? Now I'm reaching those markets. So now when I reach those markets, I promote what I'm doing to promote to other guys that are just as hot as me. And if we can get it, like me and King George, we can kill the game right now. Ain't nobody in RB dealing with King George right now. I'll put that on everything. You put one up to him. He can't mess with him. But I got it, but the next thing I'm gonna say, I don't compete. I don't compete. I just treat. We go out here. We work our butt off. And we don't get the consideration of these other guys. They get all these big ass hoes and all this stuff because the kids, one thing is about, they solitude our stuff. They block our stuff. They see the numbers we're coming with. They try to block their arenas. They try to block those things for our thing because they feel that we are not capable of doing what we do. But anyway, so we go to, we don't have no problems, no fights and nothing. Look at that shows. Fights, pick and kill. Kick and kill. What, what, what, what, come on now. That's real. Let's talk about it now. It ain't lying. Let's talk about it now. You ain't nobody on the show. Nobody getting shot at. What's going on? No, it's okay. So my thing is, if you're gonna criticize or if you're gonna show somebody love as black people, if you're in a position to help people, why don't you do it? My thing is this, I could be in Beverly Hills right now. Can it bassist, boy? I can't stand me. I could be there right now. But get what, I take my money and I put it back in the hood. I take care of my family. I make sure all my people straight. My grandsons, all my stepdaughters and my kids, I got four kids, you know what I'm saying, me? Lost one over the years, God bless him. But at the same time, all my money going to take care of my fam, man. And then I do my music. But other than that, if I can get the bag that these niggas getting, that ain't taking care of their family, learn to do it. Listen, they call me Pokebell remix is at 28 million views, man. These views are sick, man. Pokeberry, excuse me, it's millions of views, millions, and you know how to nominate this guy? And that's the same thing, PMC said the same thing, like it's something about booze, all of a sudden. Or this period. That's what I was just about. They don't show no love, bro. We were just talking about booze. It's a sudden thing. They don't show no love, they're not. They don't show Southern. If you don't establish that relationship with those people, it's nothing. I got guys out the East Coast that when I did Buffalo, New York, I did Atlanta City, when I went out to the East, I was like, hey, we want you around here. I'm like, well, we ain't no, it's not hard to find you. And that was just all makeup. My thing is this, you go out there, you turn this city out, and then it's like he, he didn't come out with a new artist. And you're like, that's what I've been dealing with. That's crazy. When I first came in, when I was, even though I was at my, I'm 53 years old, you feel me? You look good. Yeah, I'm 53 years old, but at the same time, these young artists that come in now, it's like, and they're getting more views than certain as me. And I'm like, I'll pay my dues. I done my show, I almost killed myself on stage one day. What? In New Orleans, I fell off the stage. I saw that, how did that happen? I never asked you about it, how did that happen? Let them see. The speakers, you just can step on the speaker. Right. I went to step on the speaker. I saw that. And my, my, you know, we're going forward. And the speaker moved, and I went all the way down, bro. And God, God had to be there with you there. Bro, boy, he had to be the security guard. Big ol' guy, big ol' guy. I ended up landing on him, and he was like, and I was able to spin around and land on the floor. Yup. Well, I could have landed on my head. Head, yup. Head, yeah. He could have landed on his head. Yes, sir. That's the same thing that, I don't know if it's the older entertainers who just feel that way about the speakers and stuff, because the same thing with Jennywine, did he just, did he fell too? I don't know, I don't know. He jumped, he jumped down. He be doing a lot of extra stuff. I know, he jumped down. He jumped down one level, and he had felled on the other level. And kept singing. And you hadn't even seen him. He fell down. Uh-huh, he tried to hold on to that, the guy who was doing the sign language. You know, the same thing happened to me. Same thing happened to me. I was going, did you go great? Did you keep going with the show? Yes, sir. I jumped on him. I feel it, I feel it. I feel it, I feel it, I feel it. I'm not going. It seemed to me he did too. No, it's it. Oh my God. I'm sorry. You got up there, they got the whole video. I got up, because everybody thought I was, they thought I was gone. And the comments, people loved it. What made me feel so good when I seen the video? What made me feel so good? You could hear the crowd. Oh, it's okay, go get him. You could hear women screaming like, oh go get him, no, Lord. It's like they're crying. They care about you. Bro. They care about you. And when I got up there, it was like everybody was like, ah. You should read the comments. I was like, whoa. Can't believe that. But that was after the show. I'm just about doing the book, you know. I was just ready to get off. But did you hurt yourself at all? No, no, ma'am. I was. He had a show the night and said it all the way out. I did Dallas, Texas the following day. Get a whole full show. The whole show. And the first thing I said I went and I showed it. I went and I said, I see that video, right? Y'all seen that video? Y'all thought I was dead. I was dead. I was going out. Yeah. We turned that dog on, thank God. That was awesome. Do you think, what do you think would happen if somebody came up in the South and started doing their own award shows? Oh, it was on Friday. I don't think they tried it. And it didn't work. Well, award shows, you know, I do Jackson, Mississippi. I do the award show. I've been nominated for Arts of the Year. Three different things. They do it in Jackson. But I'm talking, create one as big as big and try to get as big as BET and that one. That's the one I thought would take it there, but it didn't work. It never happened. You think it's the city that they hold it in? I don't blame them. You know what I mean? I don't blame them. I take their, you know, you know, it's only some. Whew. That's hard to say. How can I explain this? Politics. When you're dealing with people that put you in different situations to where you know you're successful and you know you can do the same things the other guys do and you present it and they deny it. It's kind of hard to tell artists like Poker Bear, hey man, you can only, I'm like, what? Well, why are we not in Los Angeles? I mean, why are we not in, you know what I'm saying? Las Vegas, I mean, I mean. That's me. We're selling more tickets than these guys. I mean, I got rap artists that I love. They call me Uncle Poker every day. And I've been like, what you doing this weekend? Nothing. And I'm like, nothing. And I'm booked. And you're booked. And it's crazy. I'm like, what? I mean, y'all not even working like me. I'm working my butt off and I'm trying to create something for future. I'm not so, I'm 53. I cannot be doing this for the rest of my life. So my plan is, this is my plan. I started my own company now. So now I'm trying to help out others. So what I'm gonna do is, I'm gonna do this last, this is my last album. After I do this last album, it's going in a straight promotion. I got my company, I'm gonna promote other artists. What's the name of your company? But I'm a JSP. JSP. JSP, Josephine's son, Poki. And I'm doing that company out of faith of the people that I don't be a relationship with. And after I do this, I'm doing, I'm not just doing songs. We doing movies. I'm doing my next movie by the pop-out right now. You know what I'm saying? What's the name? Mama. What's the name of it, Mama? Mama can't sleep. Got it. Mama can't sleep. And doing that, once I do that, once I do the movie, I'm going into other things. And hopefully I can hook up with other guys in bigger lanes that can take my stuff to another level. I'm gonna talk to Rick Ross, Snoop Dogg, Boosie. Yeah, I saw you had a picture with him the other day. Well, that's my nephew. I basically did with him, but he's so busy. Yeah. I reached out to other R&B artists that I, you know what I'm saying? Urban Mystic, me and him got a single from to come out. You gonna make it happen. You've been in this business too long for it not to. Yes, I got a lot of stuff in to come out. I just let everybody know in the world that, you know, just wait on it, it's coming. I got in the next few months, you're gonna hear a lot of stuff from PokéBear and a lot of collaborations with other artists with my boy Bad News. We just dropped one, it's so sick. We just dropped one. What's the name? We're killing the game right now, man. The name is on. Why you play with me? Why you play with me? It's a song about the industry, how you take advantage of a person. Really? Let's hold on. Let me go look. I definitely gotta go ahead. You take advantage of a person and it's Lois. You take advantage of a person that is Lois and you use that for your access to benefit for you. Which I don't know. It's very common in this industry. It's common and then after the facts and you see what's going on and you realize that you couldn't stop anything and you realize why you can't work with me no more. You will understand this song. I directed this to a lot of people. You will not know who I'm talking about because I ain't missing no name. It's a blurb. It wasn't Lois, it wasn't Lois. If you know me personally, you're gonna know exactly who I'm talking about. Bad news, I'm gonna ask you about Good Times in Detroit. Oh yeah, man. I wanna know what inspired you to go up there and do your thing, you know what I'm saying? I'm gonna tell you the craziest part about that, man. Shout out to her Big 50, you know, she got my music in her movie, Big 50 story. So she always making the DJ. You know, she gotta pull. She like the queen pin of Detroit, the real trap queen. She go on these folks spot and send her workers in there and make them play my music. So it just so happened it got to a radio station. These people call me and they're like, man, we don't know you, but your name wasn't in Detroit. We wanna fly you out. We wanna shoot your video and we're gonna put you in an Airbnb and we're gonna pay you $1,500. I said to shoot my video. I said, so what y'all getting at her? You're like, man, we just love the song. We just wanna be a part of the video. Thank God. So I get in Detroit. That's God. These folks got a whole, they big on them bicycle routes out there. Man, they had a whole like 80 people, a whole bicycle group out there. They cooking me food, man. They got me three, four bottles. They said, that's a bottle of Hennessy for every day. Wow. How about three of them? They said, you got your big bottle every day. They cook for me every day. And the name of the song, you know, good time, you know, grandma macaroni. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? The macaroni, the collard greens, just about family having a good time like back in the days. You know what I'm saying? I loved it. You know when you were coming up, man, you'd have family reunions. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? You don't get that no more. Kids don't sit at the kitchen table and eat no more. They watching their phone in the little room eating and can't focus. Telephone took over, man. I mean, what, them guys knew they were gonna have a good time. Man, we had a problem. Just dealing with you. Man, and this is- That's crazy, right? And I got out there and go back to like he said, I built relationships. I did Seven Shoes of Detroit last year alone. Wow. Seven Shoes. That is crazy. Alone, they about 12 months in a year. Man, that is crazy. And Pokébar, I mean, which is that defining city for you that you know when they go, they love Pokébar, it's like everywhere is just the same for you, ain't it? You like, you're in every damn city. Yeah. Every damn little Pokébar. I'm in every damn city. I'm in there. I'm nothing. Every damn home. I cannot say that, bruh, they. They love you. Anywhere I go, man, I can't even go in Walmart, bruh. I go to Walmart trying to be low key, man. And it won't be like, you look just like, I was like, who are the rest? Yeah, yeah, that's my brother. That's my brother. I can't go to gas stations. I can't, it's getting ridiculous. You know, I'm feeling like a Jackson status right now, you feel me? You understand me. You understand me, at the same time. I mean, I appreciate the love because the people love me so much, they know what type of person I am. And I take pictures with them. You might got pictures of me right now at the Walmart. Right now. Or at a gas station. Or wherever I was caught at. It's a picture. I don't discriminate. I don't, you know, that's just how I am. And my people love me because I love them. Have a fan ever touched you where they walked up to you and was like something you sang or something you said really affected your life, affected them. And what did they say to you? I just done. Let me show you something. I just done. She young lady called me her son. Yeah, just had a brain surgery. This morning. Wow. And she called me because she said that he wants. To talk to me. Wow. And you don't even know him. A kid. Right. How old is he? She said eight. Hold on to that. Let me get this text message right here. That's crazy. That's big, Poked Bear. Yeah. Here we go. Here we go. Let's hear this out. Read it, baby. Wow. He just want to meet you. What did he say? They bought to FaceTime. You know, he going in the surgery this morning. Look how little he is. Played a video. He just wanted them to see. He saw me video everything. Send him the video. Yeah. And you didn't. Yeah, I just called him right before surgery. And spoke to him. He was over happy, probably. He didn't listen to that Poked Bear. He was. And he's singing and dancing. He said he's the number one song. And he had to do the right thing. And what did he have to say to you? He loved me. Boutta. What you got over there? Let me see that. He was in surgery and everything. Wow, they see him after surgery. Yeah. That's crazy. Read that, man. So he went through surgery. Yep. Man. OK, so this is today. This is the time of people I reach. It says, thanks y'all so much. He's super excited. He got to see his favorite blue singer. I'm so happy you made one of many of his wishes come true. Can't send pictures of you two together. Today, if possible, we're going to do a collage. But that is so great. Well, that's touching, man. How did it make you feel? It's about the sixth one. I never thought I'd touch kids. I can imagine. But it show you that to me, it show you that you have a purpose. You have a greater purpose on this world. We don't always know what our purpose is, but God have a plan for us. And it's good that you're able to see your purpose right now. You know what I mean? When you can touch kids to this point where you're able, you don't know, thank God he came out of surgery and he's doing better. Amen. And when he come out of surgery, they call him immediately. Because they reach out to Poké Bear because at the end of the day, he inspires this kid. This kid's four, three, four years old. That's crazy, man, because you just never know. You never know, bro. You never know who you're going to touch. And behind these microphones, on these stages, every time you look around, man, you don't know what your purpose is. And I know you got stories yourself, but it's like God has a backdoor purpose that you don't even know about to go down. And then you want to know how your unexpected blessings come up. Yeah, yeah, there you go. I treat it like this. I'm like, I just love older people to be sick. It'd be a lot of older people, too, but they reach out to me and ask me to put four on the floor. You've had that happen to you before. Before they, it's just when they're about to pass away. Yes, man. Wow. I lost three of four. Wow. Die at the next day. And as you fan the first time you've ever. And they just want to talk to Poké Bear. They had done just to see his before. One woman came from Aberkirkie to my show. She said, I came to your show. My mama wanted to come. I had a ticket, but she passed away the other day. Wow. And she just wanted to save me. I was like, oh, what the? I just wanted to see him. I just wanted to see him. I just wanted to talk to him. Right. And you know, that's crazy. Because you never know. You never would have knew. In light of that, man, we pulled up at a stove. OK. It was a man hanging out his truck. We didn't know what was going on. He fell. He fell. We ran to him for help. Oh, man. I ran up that man. I'm like, you all right? He's like, I just need help getting up. I picked him up, put him in his seat. You know what I'm saying? The other people, two, three people running just to look at him. Look at that. Who the hell are you? We ran up. That's the difference between y'all. Now, we on that, picked that man up. You know what I'm saying? That man was in his seat. That was a gas station. We was at a gas station. So he was like, my legs are not the same. I'm OK. I said, you sure? Don't we want you to drive? He was OK. See how the blessings come. So let me tell you something. When it comes, one thing about this music, I mean, forgive me for getting salty. No, you're fine. But I got a heart. No, we got a heart. When it comes to music, bro, I choose an outlet to keep me out of trouble. Yeah, yeah. I used to do all the wrong things. You know, if you see my documentary right now, you be like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Exactly. But I know how it's going to go on. You want me to be honest with you? It's going to go on? Be honest. But God has put me in a position to, who Lord? I never thought I'd be in a position to be. People actually look up to me. I am so blessed right now to get to the relationships I have with people. I know this dude from Adam. I mean, he didn't have to like me. Yeah. Y'all leaked up. Y'all leaked up. Yeah. He reached out to me. The first thing I said, I said, uh, uh. What the fuck is this? No, you're not going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. They're going to do it. I think, I think Uncle Lubella is school. School. Oh, school. School. I'm going to school. I'm going to school. But once we met and everything, I was like, you're too young, man, and he was under somebody else. So I didn't want to tell nothing, but if you're going to do it, what are you going to do with me? Mm-hmm. You call me up? We're going to do it. We're going to do it. I don't have no front. I don't like no stunt with me. I don't like no stunt. Anybody that works with me, they know I'm, I'm 100. I'm 100. If I call you my boy, you're my boy. That's how I work. Females included. That's why I work. I got a lot of female fans and business partners that I deal with to help me with my situation. I have my nephews and they work with me. I never, I've never had a security force because I'm surrounded by family. Never needed to. That's all. Yes. I've never went to a venue where I had to have security because I'm surrounded by family. When I step on the crowd, I say, I don't need no background. I say, who my background say the gels? Bam. Hmm. Let me ask you a question. Because I keep thinking about you in this movie, driving this bad regal. This nigga had that. To my marigold? That old clean. I'll take you out of that. That wasn't a real old cut. No cut. Man, that thing was so clean. What year is it? What year is it? I got 79 cutters. 79, wasn't it? Yeah. I do. Don't sleep on me. Man, that whole clean. When did you see my bourbon? When I dropped my bourbon, my bourbon dropped another. What movie is that, though? Him moving. Side piece. Side piece. I watched it the other night. When is it? It's a new movie. Now I'm finna do my Denzel Washington. Oh, you finna go here? Boy, you better learn that. I'm going in with my Denzel. Because I'm older now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let it, let it, let it, let it, let it, let it. So, hold on. Give me a little piece of it. Give me a little piece of it. Oh, he's acting now. No, I want to see it. I want to see a little bit of your Denzel right now. So you said you don't want to. You don't want to be a part of this? Now you know who built this, huh? Who built it? Say it now. If I built it, and I put the portraits on it, who's the captain? You or me? Man, what's up, man? What's up, man? You're going to learn a lot today. Man, that movie is going to be about, it's going to be about... So shit, bro, I'm going all the way back. I'm going back to my kid thing. I got some, I got this young man. He's going to do the action for my kid thing. And I got another guy that's going to do the... The middle age. Yeah, middle age. Middle age. Yeah. It's all about how I grew up. I took him from Pine Grove, Louisiana. I grew up in a country. And I grew up with cows and hogs. Man. And it was nothing but the city. What is that coming out? When is it coming out? I'm doing it now. It's going to take us a full day. Hold on. I think about next year, 2014. Okay. Man, Poked Bear, man, you're a damn star. You're a damn star. I don't feel like a star. I don't give a damn what you say. I didn't interview you. You didn't say nickel? I didn't interview a lot of nickels, man. I tell you what's that all about. That ain't even bad, man. I said, Poked Bear, bring him over there, man. He like, huh? I'm like, yeah. I told him. I said, what? I said, he said Poked Bear. I said, nigga, you know how long I've been trying to... I got to get Poked Bear. But you know what Poked Bear told me when he wasn't coming over here? He said, man, I ain't coming over there by myself, man. When they coming, he was like, man, I got something going, but I'm coming. I knew, I know how God works, man. I'm too nitty with y'all. I'm too nitty. I'm going to end up at the house eating barbecue and eating steaks and niggas. I ain't coming, nigga. I'm family, nigga. No sir. You know what I'm saying? Right. No sir. When Nul said he was out here, I said, what you got going? He said, you going to... I said, I got your bag. I'm going to go over there. See, that's one thing about building relationships. That's it. When you're building relationships, you don't burn your bridge. Not at all. I'm always going to be there. Man. But if you burn your bridge, you better stay over there. Let me tell you something. It ain't never been... And I got Poked Bear number in my phone. If you never burn your phone, then go back to that song, play with me. I got Poked Bear number in my phone, and I promise you, every time I called him, he answered and talked to me and told me what was going on. But believe it or not, man. He told me what... If he wasn't here, he's going to say, I'm over here, man. I always are calling that somewhere. Yeah. Anyway. I don't never, like, me and Poked Bear together 20 times. We might go to the studio twice. You don't know how to be about music, man. Just about building relationships. Yeah. You can't do that. Yeah. You just want to be regular, man. Whatever you do for him, just set up for him. He can have a market. He can work when I'm not around. Yeah. So once we did that, and we got that a step to the video, once we did that video, I said, go ahead. You got it. You got it. He said, now you got to go say it yourself. Man, I like that. He's been working every since. Every since. Never since! Every week soon. How did he even... I ain't got to call in, though, ask him, what he doing. I'm like, where you at? I'm the big Burmaä棒, bro. What he working? He ain't got nothing to work in. I told you. Be a real whorephotoist. Let me tell you something, bro. In his business, they're not what you know. It's who you know. Who you know. Who you know. And I'm not encouraging you. I'm better than anyone else. But when it comes to this business of Southern Solar Blues, it's kind of hard to go past me. past me. And I've been telling all these people that it's a long time because every time they go past me, they got to come back to me and I'm like, Oh, what God damn. What? What are you with that way? You know what I'm saying? So, I then got to a business where I don't peel my capital. Yeah. Yeah. So now my capital up there now. So now I'm like, okay, she is. 53. 55 from the time I took it. Yeah. That's what I was wondering. 55 will retire and I'm going to run my own establishment with Blues and I'm taking it overseas everywhere. Learn today. I'm setting that up right now. You heard it from me. Big poker bar. It's going down. Man. Lean that. I'm doing stuff right now. I build a relationship with people that's going to put me in positions that I need to be in and a lot of people try to keep you in this box. I keep telling people about this box and I said, nigga, you can't keep me in no box. It's a different thing. I do music. I say, nigga, I do gospel. I do a church tomorrow. Mm hmm. I do gospel too. I do gospel, army, country, play with me. Mm hmm. Man, from from from from Sir Charles Jones, y'all, every time I see y'all man, seem like y'all just growing. That's how to be going man. Well, like y'all just always look like you having a good good. Sir Charles been here. He been here. Sir Charles been here. How did you and him even meet? Does he know? How did y'all meet? You already know me and Sir Charles. It's like we were brothers at first. First time I met Sir Charles, Sir Charles say, god damn man, you head smoking. And you know what he always tell me? Look, I didn't know you I did a show. Yeah, you know it. I did a show. It was cold. But it was outside school. Bro, I did my thing. Killed him. When I come out of the show, Steve was coming on by. No, it wasn't. Sir Charles say, he never made no deal with Steve. Hey man, they love the show. I know it. I know it. Sir Charles say, I ain't never seen no artist to do that. He said, boy, you the next thing. That's when I first started. Really? They call me poking. Hey, big poke and bass. Come on. I started. Yeah. That's the only song I had. You know, Older Woman and uh uh what was on my head? Can't. No, no. I wasn't even out yet. I don't know. Um I did uh what's the other one I did? Do people ever request you to sing those first songs that you did? Yes. Um when I go to shows, they be like, can you sing this one? And um I got my um my sit set up right now to where um when they ask me for something and I got time. Mm hmm. I do it for them. Wow. For you to be like like one of the you you your name is going down in history no matter how you look at it. To me, don't tell me like I'm just telling you, man. I'm being like, bro, that was true. I'm being like, bro, that was true. I'm being like, bro, that was true. I'm being like, man, come on, man. You're crying. Listen, man. No, I'm being like, listen, man. Listen, listen. Your name is going down in history, man. Uh what what do you want people to remember you by putting poke? I want them to remember me that I was a fun person to be around. Um never hated on no one. Um humble. Um I just never going never to never just burning bridges. I don't I don't burn bridges. Um even when I even when I'm getting messed up. I mean, I got screwed a lot of money. You know what I'm saying? But I never burnt the bridge because I got two things for a reason. You can't go against God. So, my thing was, you know, even got the money, even fight them anyway. I've learned to accept things that I mistakes I've made and the games I've made and and I take it as as one, man. I'm I'm gonna be the same person from beginning to end. I will never be different. No matter how much money I got. Wow. I love the way how you hold on to God no matter what. I love my lord lord Jesus. I pray to the lord every morning. Every morning I wake up, I take my shower and I look up at the lord and I pray to him. Thank you for everything you got for me. My house, my cars, my grandkids, my babies, everything. Come on now. My daddy still living 83 years old. I'm still living 83 years old in my house right now. My my friends that I met and I just take it as I take it again because a lot of people ain't in that position. They ain't in that position. Same thing to you bad news. Like what in this journey, man, like people see you, they see the move. They seen you do something no other rapper has ever done to go over in the southern soul and and live and be successful in it. Like what do you want people to remember you by when they think about you and your legacy? I just don't really, I don't really want to remember you by now. I just want to know anything is possible. Don't give up, man. Don't matter what nobody tell you can't do it. What God got playing for you, man. No man can stop. There's a lane that you know. You know, you know how much I get criticized about but I'm booked every week. So everything I'm doing something right. Exactly. When I get calls about the criticism that he gets, I tell him to keep pushing because if they ain't talking about you, you ain't doing anything. You ain't doing anything. That's what you were. You better be like, what the what's going on? They ain't saying nothing. Right, right, right. That's when you were. That's when you were. I know they talk about me all the time. He a drunk. He was on drugs. He fell off the stage. You see, I fell off the stage. I told you it was on drugs. I don't burn. Yeah. Oh, that. Hey, next show pool. Yeah. Oh, the meat rapper. And then he walked on stage. That's how he walked on stage. What do you say? Y'all down that level. Y'all down that level. I'll tell you. I know if they do the calculation right now, the most talked about blues are his big, big, big, because I go, I do everything and they see me different places. They be like, he was boozy with Rick Ross. He was with Snoopy. How the hell do you do that? Big Polk. It's funny you say that because of Snoop, man. How did you end up running into Snoop? I don't know. They didn't run into, he ran into me. Hey, big pocket bag. I don't look for now. Now, this is it. I'm looking for me. So, where were you at talking? Where were you at talking? When they found you. Where were you at, man? I actually haven't never met Snoop personally. Okay. But he went live and me and him looking at each other on the phone like, hey, Polk, my love, what the hell? I'm just sleeping. I'm not gonna fuck with you. I'm not gonna call me. Man, I don't want to let you know, boy. Keep doing what you're doing. Keep doing what you're doing. But it's big, man. That's big. It gets deep, man. That's big, man. That's big, man. That's big, boy. He knew exactly who you were. That's exactly what you did. I didn't get to answer my call. No. I'm going to keep it real. I'm going to get on TV. Oh, my God. Hey, Snoop. You better answer the call. I'm not being on with you, man. Say. Hey, I don't want to be done. You know, when I went to Rick Ross, I did his baby. I mean, he's got a son. He's got a son. He's got a son. Mama birthday party. Oh, really? Yes. Yes. That's the mansion. We have to mention and Rick Ross sitting there, I'm like, Yeah. I'm shaking my ass. He said he's going to remember you. The next day, I was like, okay, it's going to be a good day tomorrow. Okay. So, the next day, I was like, okay. So I said to him, he's walking around here. Making sure. It went viral. It went crazy. So I'm like, okay. Yeah, waiting on the call like, okay, wait for it. Wait for it. Wait for it. Wait for it. No call. What the hell? Good. I hit you with that. Ain't got a call. But he made me. Hold on. I'm not saying that man. But you killed it. I know you killed it. Did I kill it? I know you did. He was shaking so hard. I was like, God, thank you. And I'm like, okay, here in the middle. Wait for it. Wait for it. I put that on my face. I know you did that. And then you're going to go viral the next day doing my video saying, I'm going to make sure my mama won't poke a bag. He's got Bulk Inside. What he's saying? What he's saying? What he's saying the next day? Make sure. Bulk a bag. Yeah. Yeah, put him back in there. I was like, okay, okay, it was all nice. Pupers, see that? I'm gonna go in there and I'm gonna go in there. I'm gonna sign it, that's what I'm talking about. I got that, I got that, I got that, I think I'm gonna call me like, yeah, nigga, you ready? Maybe back. Maybe back. Yeah, name back music, name back music. Get one car. God! I think you gonna learn today. Take that and go with it. I'll say God damn. I'm gonna go in there. I'm just gonna say, all right then. I'll tell you what, I don't think I'm gonna get a bitch, I'm gonna beat that bitch up. When I come back, that bitch is coming up, I'm trying to do that, mother. I'm trying to get me fucked up the hell now. I was like, what, I can't hold that. Nothing. They just broke your hip. Like I said, he paid me. Don't worry about it, God got you. He paid me. He paid me my money, so I'm good at what I was expecting, God, if it will blow, if it will blow. It can't hold it down. It can't hold it. It can't hold it if it'll blow. I know you got to call and do his mama part of it. That's what I knew. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. It ain't easy. Don't tell all these others. You can meet them all day. It ain't easy. Boy. Boy. It is not easy. Hold it. I work my ass off every weekend because I do everything and everybody's gonna tell me I am so good. You all good. I'm like, what the hell? What the heck? What the heck, I ain't got nothing. What the heck is the man? I want to be your same man. That's right. How she doing? Get your fucking ass off that thing. You got me full of it. Out of this shit, man. If I get paid, everybody's gonna pay. Man, that's great. What else do I have? What else do I have to do to prove that I am the man? The man. Did you ever do that boosted badge which all that one where y'all be going on there? Uh, uh, uh. Can you just say boosted badge? That boosted badge. That boosted badge. You be going, don't you? Yes, I've done the boosted badge. You don't did the boosted badge. You ain't done that, you ain't done that. Poke it, big poke it, I did it all. But then when you told me walla go, I knew it ain't easy. You done, you done some boosted? Yes. That's your boy. That's my boy. That's his nephew. Nephew. Nephew, man. He looked out for me. Ah, boosted reels. Did the show for him and mom showed up. I met all the family. All the family. And uh, like I said, that's who we's on now. But I just said, yeah, he's on now. Ooh, going down now. He's going down. You ain't done the show, but yeah, he's going down. He's going down. He ain't been helping. I know what happened to this guy. All I seen was me bags and all that. Leave it. Leave it. You got that complex. You see, leave it. I'm in my goddamn top. No, I was in my Cali Escalade. I'm in my Escalade like, uh, are we going to do it? Or what? You got to follow him or what? Yeah. So, they gone, right? So I'm like, what the fuck going on here, man? I'm painting. I'm good. I'm like, what the fuck we going to do? To mold. Do some. Last time I see a boozer, when I was in Atlanta, I went to his house. Oh, yeah, that's how he's house you got. That's my nigga. We go to his house, I go to his house. He show me the gratitude boo boo boo. That's it. Wait on it. Wait on it, bro. I'm a type of brother like this. I mean, I respect every man and everything you do. But one thing I do love, I love me some me. Yeah, yeah. And I think I'm a little cocky with the idea. I ain't lying. No, you ain't lying. No, I ain't lying. So when a person show me that, I'll be like, I'm so horrible for real. Man. I want shit. Man, man, I'm good. Man. I don't ask nobody for shit. Everything I got for paid for, nothing I don't bother nobody. I don't need nobody to help me. I can do my own shit. But I would love to have that collaboration. But at the same time, don't treat it like, you know, like, I'm out here scratching. I'm all right. Man. I ain't gonna, I'm gonna wrap this up for y'all. I have one more question. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Who you got? This question is for both of y'all because it's more of a current situation that I see what's going on right now. I see a lot of people are doing veneers nowadays and getting rid of their goals. Oh, they put them on white teeth in their mouth. So what y'all think about that? I'm from the south. I love gold. I let them do them and I do me. That's what we do from the south. We're at gold. If I take these, I'm gonna get some more gold. Are we really? Golds. Yeah. Can I see people from out there? They'll be changing it up too. No. See, they follow the new trend. I set my own. We're old school. I'm old school. Okay. I've been rockin' golds for the last 10 years. I don't, I don't rock no. They come with the plan and all that shit. I don't do that. Mm-hmm. And no white teeth. No white teeth. They cool. My old dad goes for you dad. My grandfather had gold for you dad. The two golds. The two. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You remember who that was? I remember. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's who that was. Uh-huh. My mama had the one gold. Uh-huh. Right there. Right there. But what I said on good time. Mama, mama, I was one gold. One gold. I had new shit to do it. I had new shit to do it. I had new shit to do it. They do a lot of some new shit. I never rock with that. When I got my gold, I remember my nephew say, remember my nephew say. Mm-hmm. He's a gold. Now I talk to him. He's all gonna get passing up. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Get that. Get that gold. The gold. He said, he said, I said. We been rockin' golds ever since. He had them for me. Hold on. We be lookin' a new set. What? Yeah. What's gonna happen to you? We'll get a new set. But you know exactly what I'm talking about. You see a lot of people getting that. Everybody getting that right now. I don't fucking want to. I love my gold. Because some people say them golds. Some people say them golds messed up their teeth underneath. So they had to take it out. That's what I heard some people say. They need to get real gold. Yeah, that's right. And they need to get real gold. You see them veneers, they messin' them up on there, too. Yeah, like some of them veneers, them four teeth be bigger than Block, man. Yeah, you got a sick teeth. Like, you got a fatty. That's a big one. You got a sick teeth. That's a big one. They got the home, the back tooth. The back tooth. Yeah. I don't wanna wear that. You got a sick teeth. I don't see that big, man. I see the nigga. I see the nigga. Just recently, like he been killing it. Make a horse teeth, like, yeah, yeah. Man. Let me tell you something. Man. I'm old school. I would never change. I wouldn't give a damn if they come out with a jut in there. I wouldn't have a jut in there. A jut in there. You know what I'm saying? I'm old school. And when I was a kid, my uncle and I had gold teeth. So I grew up. I wanted to have gold teeth. Like for my dad, it was the prince. He had a mouth full of gold. My brother was 16 when he was 10. He was like a natural being. My baby was 16 when he was 20 years old. He was 16 when he was 20 years old. There he goes. Go. Man, I gotta ask you this, man. And I ask both of y'all this. But Big Cloggett, man, who do you listen to, like, when you listen to music? What's that? Rap. Yes. What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? What's up? Top three. Top three. Top three. Top three. Top three. Top three. Number three. Top three. My top three right now? Yeah. My top three. My top three right now? The top three right now? A couple times. Right now? Right now. Gagging chain. Little baby. OK. Little baby? Little baby. It's my hottest artist right now. Uh, you don't, uh, you're, uh. You're good. You don't know. You're money, uh, from Memphis, um, you know. Money bag you? Money bag you. That nigga Bayard ain't he man. Love you. Money bag you. I know. My new favorite artist. I think I know what you're gonna say. Oh, the dirt! You like the dirt? You love the dirt? You love the dirt? You love the dirt? Why? Just somebody stop! He reminded me of my nephew. I don't know, he just... What am I, NBA Young Boy? You get... Oh! Oh! Let me change the subject. Oh! Oh! Oh! I will never ever ever stand for that. I love Baton Rouge. And I think, to me, he's putting a bad image on the kids that are growing up in Baton Rouge. We do not grow up like that. And he is putting a situation where you don't do that. But he's winning. He winning. I can't get mad at him. They loving. They loving. But as in me, we're growing there in mine. You gotta keep it going. You ain't finna tell me, you finna slap me, you finna do this? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That, the beef he has, he need to shut that shit down. He need to get shit together and build families instead of destroy families. Cause a lot of kids follow him. And they do the shit he do. They do the shit he say. He ain't good. He seemed like he was gonna be cool with the dirt. He doesn't cool about that. He just nests him again. And I ain't give a, I ain't give a duck no goddamn promises either. I can get it too. I know you can get it too. They they both gotta get it together, man. Cause it's all about the future. I don't, no I don't choose sizes. But my thing is I told you I like little dirt cause I like that new song they got. I don't like no NBA Young Boy. You know why I don't like NBA Young Boy? Cause he talk about I don't like that, I want my kids to listen to that shit, man, and I'm gonna tell you to your face. I like real rappers that can talk about truth, that can talk about building, talk about what's going on in the world, talk about what can happen and we can do it better. I don't want to talk about those niggas that talk about how we're gonna kill somebody, or how you dealing with this other guy that we don't know who the hell you dealing with. And now we go, we gonna get on your side, we gonna be with them too? No. We ain't doing that. Man, that's why I throw the hell everywhere I go, Louisiana, Newark. Yeah. We don't do no, no, no, no battling, shooting people, killing people, and representing on record, man. That would make it look bad because the police, they listen to that, they charge you with that. That's real. You got niggas in jail right now behind your motherfucking ass, and you ain't never stood up for that. In your life. No asses sitting there, in your goddamn room. The fuck out of here, boy? Me ain't that word that you heard that. Man, I gotta ask y'all about the fitting on thing. I got to ask you about it. I don't sell drugs. I don't sell drugs. I don't sell drugs. I don't sell drugs. How can we help these people to stop them from dying on this cause they addicted? They addicted, man. So they ain't gonna stop? It's gonna get worse, man. It's gonna get worse. It's better than my city. It's better than my city. You said that time you want to. They die every day from that thing. There's nothing you can do about it. Can't stop it. But as much as you addicted to something, if you see everybody around you who's taking the same thing you are taking and they dropping like flies, why would you keep taking it? See how easy it was for her to say that? Guess how easy it was for them to say. Hit that O. Hit that O. Yeah, yeah. And be looking for some more. Hit that O. Hit that O. Hit that O. Hit that O. And look at your L.A. Hey, they gone, baby. They gone, baby. It's over. We ain't gonna be able to stop it. We ain't enough. It's over. That's right now, to where, no, like I said I lived in L.A. for eight years, and I went through the crack epidemic and I actually was drug dealing with myself. So I'm not ashamed to admit that, but I'm really ashamed of what I did in my past and what I see now. In my past, it was more respect. It was more about you deal with the people that did it. Right. Now, no. No respect. It doesn't change now. When you went into problems back in the day with that game, it was more like a situation, different hoods, did they different things? You can't do that. Now it done got to a point. Now they've got these phones and stuff in the social media, bro. And people show your location, bro. It's over. Done. You're done. Oh, my God. I mean, it's ridiculous. And it's the game of change. And a lot of people, I really thought, I won't be honest with you. I don't think that Go game is old. I ain't doing that shit no more. Me? I was saying, folks, let's go to the credits. I wouldn't do it with me. I wouldn't do it. No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't do it with you. I went home and seen a girl with an old girl pull up. Like what? She pulled up and told me she was old. I thought I was dead. I said, man, you were going when I thought, I ain't going to have your dealer. But I ain't taking what's dead, but now I see it now, man. I'm like, whoa. We did. Then they got new drugs now, bro. That shit killing people, bro. Yeah. Yeah. They taking it one time and Lord. It's horrible. You're dead. It's all with. I seen a brother and sister die. Oh, yeah. It happened together. They found them both dead together. Damn. They're my family, bro. They're real talk, bro. That's what I'm saying. I've seen a lot of shit. Even though I realize. Let me tell you something. Baton Rouge milk pot for that dope, bro. Real talk, real talk, man. Right now, we're in an emergency situation, because now it's uncontrollable. And now you're the, it's a murder in Baton Rouge every two days. Damn. Every two days. Every two days, somebody get shot. Boy, I tell you, man. It's crazy. And it's a small city. It's everything's combined. Yeah. And it's really terrible, bro. It's really, we're really in a bad situation to where guys like me, they try to step up and speak. It's like, it's. Give me answers up. And I don't want. Listen. I got to ask you know, back in the day, they'll have a stop the violence tour. Or they'll have a dead, they'll come together and make a we are the world. They don't do that no more. Hold on. They don't hold any money. They do it. We're in. They do it. But five people get shot at the God damn doctor. They don't. It's that bad. They can't even get together and try to stop the violence. And let's you try to do a championship. Four people got shot. This to me, man. You gonna learn today. That's crazy. Man, they ain't even trying to stop. They ain't got words. They trying to keep it a black. They ain't no black. They ain't white. They ain't too. Because the L. It's just through the. Smoke em move. You gonna learn that. They, man. Thank you all for coming on the show, man. I know how can people get a hold of your bad news? They trying to get a hold of you. Amen. Bad news. 334 on all sides of news, Williams. Instagram, bad news, you know, bad news. 34. Let's work. Big Poke Barrel. They the same thing as Big Poke Barrel everywhere. J.S.P. too. J.S.P. Y'all already know how to get along with me. You understand me? Big Poke Barrel, J.S.P. Joseph P. son. Poke. Man. Who gave you the name Poke? Oh, you gonna get it, Mom. I've been poking since I was a kid. I know, but who gave it to you? Mama, Daddy? My mama. They say I used to, this is what they told me. They say I used to poke in the crowd. Put your mouth up. Oh, wait a minute. Poke it, man, it ain't right. That's what they say. I used to be picking this shit and putting it in my mouth. It ain't right. So they call me Poke. Poke it, man. From everywhere. Y'all get ready, man, my new video about to drop my queen different. It just reached 100,000 streams, Spotify. Man. The video star Nelly Tiger-Travis. So we working, man, you know. Man, I'm sorry. My queen difference. Yeah, you got a pretty picture of my queen difference, man. Your queen difference. You damn right she is. Oh, shit. I've had so much fun with y'all. No, man, we can't do this every time. I ain't never had a crazy little stage. You can't do it. You can't do it. You can't do it every time. You know the radio, man. They need to love it over here. So we be kicking it, man. Everybody come here, man. They ain't gonna lie. We have a good time. We eat. If you catch us, you'll cook you something. We know you coming. Oh, no. What I'm saying is whatever we can do for the station. Man, keep coming back and supporting us. I'm gonna bring these new albums coming out. We got the new album, the new movie. Everybody stream me. We poke about JSP. Don't go into another blue check. Don't go on that page. We got a lot of fake pages. We got a lot of fake pages. If it ain't a blue check, don't mess with it. But nowadays people buying blue check. Yeah, buying blue check. Yeah, but they still have to have the money. Damn. It's not a long work, man. Yeah, but it still makes to where they real name on there. So we know it's a real page. They know my page. Yeah. Man. But at the same time, I appreciate everything y'all done. Let me have a little bit of that side piece before I get out here. I want a chorus. You just playing. Can't play? No, you know what I'm saying. I want a chorus. We want a chorus. I didn't lie. I said they gon' play. Give it, give it a little bit. I want a chorus. You can't have a chorus of side piece. A side piece got to sneak up on you. Ooh. I love home, baby, to be with my side piece. I love home, to be with my side piece. Ooh, yeah. Ooh, baby. Ooh, yeah. Man, thank you, man. Been another great set with a boss talk. One on one with a boss in town, man. And we out. Man.