 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump. Mind pump. With your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this episode of Mind Pump, the introductory portion of the podcast is about 35 minutes long. Here's what we talked about. We talked about the growth of podcasts, our new butt cleaning bidets. Can't wait to set mine up. Sparkly Tains. Justin eats his own tooth. It's a new diet. Whips. I mentioned four. I found it later in my shit. I mentioned the four-sigmatic mushroom matcha with lion's mane. I'm on fire. If you go to foursigmatic.com, four slash mind pump, enter the code mind pump. You will get a discount. It actually smells all right. We talked about putting kids in a bubble to keep them safe. Trigger warning. Fast food and infertility. They actually did a study showing that women can double the risk of infertility if they eat a lot of fast food infertility. It's when you're infertility. Dilly dilly. And we talked about the Big Mac guy. And the last time we ate a Big Mac, who do you think is the last person in this room who ate a Big Mac? If you're guessing at him, you're right. Then we get to the questions. The first question was, this person loves the ketogenic diet for mental health and for longevity. But they're also a physique competitor and wants to know if it's possible to perform and grow muscle while on keto. So we have a little keto discussion on that one. Next question was, what is the difference between or what are the differences with weighted hip thrust and developing all three parts of the glutes? You might not know this, but your butt is made up of three separate members, just like mind pump. Yeah. We are just one big butt. We're the ass of podcasting. The best part. I'm glad you finally put that together. Yep. The next question was, this person is about to turn 30, wants to know if we have any advice for them? Well, since they're already listening to mind pump, I think they've got it all down. And finally, what's the best way to back out of endurance training without gaining a ton of weight? We lay out a strategy for this individual. Also this month, get the fasting guide and the nutrition guide for free if you enroll in any maps bundle. Now maps bundles where we take multiple maps programs, put them together and discount them like 20 or 30% off. Here's a quick rundown of the maps programs. If you're interested in maximum muscle size, strength or metabolism boosting, try maps anabolic. If you're a stage competitor, like a physique competitor, bikini competitor or bodybuilder, or you just want to sculpt your physique and you're at a moderate to advanced level already, that's maps aesthetic. If you want functional athletic performance, if you want to move like a master athlete, well that's maps performance. If you like to work out at home or on the road or you just like to work out without exercise equipment, just your body, well that's maps anywhere. And if you're a personal trainer or if you want to train your body to operate better so you don't have pain, that's maps prime and maps prime pro. Now you can find all those programs plus the bundles where you get the free nutrition guide and fasting guide at mindpumpmedia.com. You see my post on Justin the Oscar Meyer wiener? Oh bro, you're ripping Justin. Alright, he's coming hot. You're crushing him. That is literally what's going through his head sometimes when I know we're rambling and talking. He's got old like 80s jingles going in his head. It's very accurate. I thought it was too. I couldn't get mad at it. I'm waiting for the retaliation. It wasn't a flattering picture though. I was like, I'm not using that shit. Adam uses it right away. Oh yeah, it's perfect. Well, the one of me like a tech mode. Spooning a pillow isn't the best either. Katrina got it. She goes, you know I'm sending these over to Kyle. Do you really want this picture of you spooning a fucking pillow? I'm like, the dude's wearing a fucking pink unicorn shirt. He's wearing a pink unicorn shirt. We just talked about this in the last episode. Confidence, you know what I mean? I'm comfortable. I like it when you lay sideways like that because you have your legs kind of together. She's just making fun of you guys. She's like you're playing with your feet. I feel like I give you a little poke. An article came out. Apple's podcast just topped 50 billion all time downloads and streams. Their iTunes or whatever? They're streaming. They just hit 50 billion total streams. Here's some stats for you guys. That's a lot of listens. Here's how much it's grown. In 2014, there were 7 billion podcast downloads. In 2014. 2016, that number jumped to 10.5 billion downloads. In 2017, it jumped to 13.7 billion episode downloads and streams across podcasts and iTunes. And then in March 2018, Apple podcast passed 50 billion all time. It went from 13 to 50. Exploding. 13 to 50. Exploding. What? Crazy, right? It's like we felt it. We're rich. We're rich. I wish it was that way. Well, you know what? We said this from early on. Like just hang on. As long as we don't suck and we just kind of hang on, we'll just rise. Imagine if we got worse. Let's not imagine that. Yeah. Damn it, Justin. You got a shit on everything. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. Let's not do that. Speaking of shit. Okay. Did anybody install the fucking bidet? I haven't yet. Oh, can we give a shout out to our boy? Bro, what's his name? I left mine here at the studio. I can't wait to use it. What's Desmond's last name? Smith. Oh, I should have remembered that. Desmond Smith. Real tough last name. Can I tell you something? First of all, you're the man. So I need to know the brand of this bidet because I want to shout it out. So easy. I installed it in my house where I'm going to get home. Listen, if I can do it, anybody can do it. Walk me through it because obviously water comes through that. Where do you attach it to? So you take off your toilet seat, which is easy. There's two screws in the back. You put the device on top of your toilet. Then you put the seat over it. So now it's secured. And you have this little control thing next to you, right? They give you an adapter that you attach the tube that already goes to your toilet. You attach to this adapter. And then you attach that to the toilet. And then the adapter has another female part coming out. So then you attach another... What tools are necessary to do this? No tools. All by hand? Just a screwdriver. Oh, a screwdriver. Because I had to take off the toilet seat. That's it. It's LuxeBidet. Is that the one we got? Yeah, that's the one. Yeah, LuxeBidet Neo. Oh, wow. So how does it work? Do you like it? You sit down. And when you're ready, you fucking spray your butthole. And let me tell you, this is the first time I've ever used one. Oh, it is. You don't know what it's like to you. So here's what it might... Oh, it hit direct. It went straight in the butthole. Straight out. And it's like... And go mild. Because you can shoot that fucking hard. And I did the first level. It's like Anima status. Any harder than I would have... It would have been bad. I would have had an additional butthole. So now the one thing about these, which I'm curious to what it feels like and how cold it is on your butt. So the ones that you when you install them, they have a hot and a cold. No, this is... You get a nice warm, you know, butt liquid. Yeah, I like cold. Because after I'm done going to the bathroom, it's already hot. Liquid guys in your butt. It's already hot. There's a little smoke coming off of it. You don't have to... You have to cook your eggs at the pan and you put water on the pan. It's not like so cold or it's like... It's not like crazy cold. It's cold. Is it? It's cool. But this is so great. So now we have one toilet with a bidet in my house and it's in my room. And that's the only toilet I poop in now. So now I go upstairs. Everybody's like, why are you going upstairs? It literally makes so much sense. I'm surprised it's taking this long for America to get behind. Bro, you save on toilet paper too because you spray your butt with the water. Yeah. And then you turn it off and then you use one... You only have to wipe once to dry. Now if you really want to be environmentally friendly, you just sit there till it dries. But I don't have enough time. You just drip dry. I've already spent 30 minutes going through Instagram. No, thanks. You didn't read my... You didn't do my Insta story? I did. It's really hard to catch. I didn't even catch it. I don't know about it. But the... Don Warden. Is that what it is? It's a D-O-N... It's like the W in the inner flip flop. I'm pretty sure I'm dyslexic, bro. No, you may be. I'm pretty sure. You are very intelligent. You're very creative. You know what's weird is I'll look at that. It's not like I don't... Because I know I do it so often, I try and be conscious of like, I know when I'm being lazy and I just rip shit out fast and it's like, whatever, I don't give a shit what people say. Then there's times where I'm like, I was trying to put a nice little story together there. You know, like, dink, dink, nice one. And I look at it before, thought I spell checked it real quick. Then Justin fucking jabs me right afterwards. Well, have you... You got me on the couch. Just wait till you get... Just wait till you get spell checked by your own kid. That's always fun. Oh, man. Happen to me. My kid corrects me every day. Now, are you guys' kids at an age where they are like learning stuff that's like already above your guys' level? My son. My son's in seventh... He's only in seventh grade too, but he's such a whiz at math. That he takes math at very advanced levels. And math also happens to be my weakness. That's like my kryptonite. So for sure he's never asking dad for help. For sure. And thank God he's good at it. He doesn't ever ask for help. But if there's ever a situation where he's like, hey, dad, can you help me with my math homework? I'm just gonna be like... Dude, call uncle Adam. My son's eight, but it's happening quickly. Is it really? Yeah, because he already remembers things I don't. You know, like things that literally happen like a couple of months ago. He remembers to the tea, like, describes everything. And I'm like, no, that didn't happen. And then like, Courtney, I'm like, yeah, yeah, no, that happened. And he's always super accurate. Like he has like the best memory. Can we just take a moment and point out Justin's shoe game today? Yeah, what's going on there? Boom! I like the Camo SBs, bro. I'm a huge SB fan. In fact, you've now motivated me to bring him back in the rotation. So I was on a cake for about, I don't know, a year or two there where that's all I wore was the low-top, high-top SB. They go nice with the sweatshorts. Yeah, they do. See, I still have a little bit of my own flavor to it, but I feel like, I don't know, just being around you guys and maybe it's definitely Adam's influence and Taylor. I was looking at you and I was like, trying to come up with something. I was like, no, no, no, it's definitely Adam and Taylor. What's my influence, the sweatshorts? Or you're like, eh, I'm never going to look as bad. Been there. Yeah, yeah, I've been there. Can you guys start wearing wife-beaters? No, forget it. You know what? You're right. Honestly, though, I am a little inspired to start rocking actually. Dude, let me tell you something now. Nothing makes you feel more secure. You rock the fuck out of those. Nothing makes you more secure feeling in your body than when you have a tight snug wife-beater underneath your shirt. It's like those... It's hugging you like some creature's going to die. It's like a thunder vest for God's sake. Yeah, I was just going to say that. Like, I never bark. Because I have this on. Shit, that's where your confidence comes from. Oh, I feel so cool. Oh, my God. When does your tooth get fixed? Oh, my God. You just started laughing at yourself. I didn't realize it until you started laughing. Like, I look like jewel, you know, like, before she got to fit like the little corn tooth in the corner that's like... I think you should keep it like that. I still have character now. You know what I mean? I got to tell this story because I was... Yeah, where did it go first of all? Well, so here's the thing. I'm not like... I went to my dentist buddy who set me up with these amazing teeth and like everything... I was so stoked because I finally got my permanence and they're nice and smooth and I'm like, oh, I love the feel of it. But one of the canines came a little bit chipped and so he had to order another one to replace it. And so he's like, well, in the meantime, I can kind of file this down and stick this back in as a temporary and have it, but just be very conscious that it's going to be a little bit loose if you chew anything. Like are you just, you know, just be conscious of like eating on the other side of your mouth, basically. And so, you know, me being the fucking bull in a china shop... Yeah, you're fucking... Goes and orders a rib-eye steak, probably. Dude, I had like... I had carne asada. What are you thinking? And I was chewing my way through and I'm having a conversation with my wife and all of a sudden my tongue hits up in the corner there and I'm like, oh my God, there's a hole. I was like, oh shit. And this had happened earlier in that day it had kind of fallen out and I was like, oh no, I got to be really conscious of this and I shoved it back in real hard and so I was like eating and chewing and I was like, oh my God, it's gone and then all of a sudden panic. And I'm like, wait, I can't find it and then I spit all my food out and I'm like sifting through it. And I was like panicking. Oh shit. And Courtney just looks at me like ghosted in her face and she's like, oh my God. And I was like, I swallowed it. I fucking swallowed it and I definitely swallowed it and then I was like, okay, my first instinct is, well, maybe I can puke it up. Maybe I can still get this. I went into the bathroom and I'm trying to make this work and I'm just cramping like crazy. Nothing's coming up and I just like gave up. I was like, ah, fuck it. So I waited until I pooped and I got it and I put it back in. No. No, I didn't do that. So I just gave up on it and I'm just rocking it so I get my permanent tomorrow. So you haven't seen it pass out? Have you checked to see if it's passed? There's no checking in that mess. No, bro, I'm not going to sift through my shit. That's why I'm laughing at it. I just let it go. I was like, you know what? I swallowed it like an asshole and I'm just going to have to pay the price. So this weekend I just looked like a crazy hillbilly. You couldn't find a fluorescent light in that fucking mess. Fuck you, man. It could be a piece of fucking glowing kryptonite. Yeah, like where is it? It could have shot out on the wall behind me. You wouldn't even know. I can't see anything. There's nothing in there. There's leprechauns in there. Nobody knows. Nobody knows what's going on. That's why I'm laughing so hard. Man, this fucking... Dude, this four-sigmatic matcha lion's mane thing that they gave me? Yeah. That shit's fire, dude. You guys need to try that. I just saw you got a box from them. They have to be the most judicious about sending us stuff, bro. We get maybe like two things whenever they send us, like all the rest of our sponsors. Yeah. The rest of our sponsors, they're the only one that really uses sal. So we're going to give you two things. Yeah, well, the rest of our sponsors, we have so much supplements, which I love that we can now, we can provide them for other people. We give them away all the time. We do cool stuff with them. We never are short on it. Four-sigmatic, dude. They send us like, they send us a single person's care package every time we get our monthly shipping. A little travel size. Thank God Sal's the one who uses it the most, and I don't really give two shits, but what is this new stuff? This is the Mushroom Matcha Drink Mix. So it's got matcha in there, which is a type of green tea. So when they grow green tea, if some of the leaves grow in shady areas, they grow with a higher concentration of antioxidants. I think the caffeine in matcha is similar. Higher in theanine. And so they call it matcha because it's a special, it's this more expensive version of green tea. And the way they make it in, I know in Japan I think is they use the powder. So what they do is they take these leaves, they dry them, grind them up into a fine powder, and then you make that into a paste, and then you can make that into a drink. So you're actually drinking like green tea powder. And I love it. I've always loved matcha tea. Doug, did you drink a lot of matcha when you were in Japan? Yeah, fair amount. They had a whole process, right, where they would whisk it and... Yeah, there's actually a tea ceremony. It's very complex and involved. But, you know, the average person, yeah, if you just drink matcha, you're just gonna put some hot water and some matcha together and drink it. How does it taste? This tastes like green tea. So it's got... Oh, really? Yeah, so it's got matcha in there and then lion's mane, which is that neutropic thing for the brain and ginger, which I love taking ginger or turmeric with any type of a stimulant because it just makes you feel better. Can I smell it? Yeah, it levels it out. Yeah, but anyway, man, it just got me on fire. Yeah. Yeah, I got a funny story to tell you guys, by the way. Oh, please do. So I was up in the city visiting my brother a couple... It smells better. It smells good, huh? Yeah, it does smell better than their stuff. So I was up in the city a couple of weekends ago. Remember when I was visiting my brother in his $5 million... No, not really. But, you know, he's spending like six grand on a two-bedroom apartment. Right. Because San Francisco's ridiculous. Yeah. So I was up there and we leave his apartment to go walking around the town and we're going to get some food. And there was this outdoor, like, workout area. And they do yoga classes and Pilates classes and... I got to figure out where it was. It was pretty cool, right? So we're down there. We're walking around and then they had these monkey bars that were for adults and they would... You'd have to climb up and then climb down on the monkey bar. So it wasn't straight across. Oh, yeah, I've seen those. It was going up and then down. And that's hard. Have you ever done that before? Yeah. So it's much more difficult to go upward when you're doing monkey bars and then going down. You got to have a good grip, good strength. Right. So we're walking around. We see the monkey bars. And, you know, Jessica's with me and she's all dressed up. You know, she's wearing heels and stuff because we're in the city and we're going to go out to dinner or lunch or whatever. And so she sees the monkey bar. She's like, oh, cool. And so she's, you know, she's fucking... My mom calls her the aunt because she's small and strong like an aunt. She's like, she's not very big. She's, you know, whether she's 5'1". Yeah. But she's strong as shit. So she gets on these monkey bars and she's just... just jams across the whole thing, right? Now, I know how difficult physical things are because I worked out all the time. And I also know how strong she is. But I didn't say anything. So I look over at my brother and my cousins because I was with two of my cousins, Gabriel, Alex, and then my brother. And they're all like, I'm like, dang. I'm like, that's pretty good, huh, guys? And they're like, yeah, she's pretty strong. And I'm like, I'm looking at them like, oh, you motherfuckers think you could do that. Yeah, yeah. You do it. Yeah. So I said, oh, I said, you should give it a try to my cousin, Alex. You should, dick. Yeah, you should give it a try. That's good, dude. So I was like, I could do that. So he gets up there. And he goes, I think he makes it like three monkey bars. Like one, two, three. He falls down, right? Yeah. So I'm cracking up. So now my brother who, arguably my brother's extremely strong. Genetically speaking, he's stronger than I am. It's just I work out and he doesn't. The kid's a strong kid, but he's also big, heavy kid. He's like 220 pounds. Right. Not the best suit for that. No. So, and it's here. Use your hands. You know what I mean? So my brother jumps up and he's like, I'll do it. I'm like, all right. Yeah. Give it a shot, dude. And my brother always has to like, if it's a physical thing, he has to win, right? Right. So I'm watching him and he's fucking just giving it everything. Oh, man. He's like fucking couldn't make it. Dude, halfway down. I was laughing so fucking hard. And I was making fun of it. But then I'm like, look, she's super strong. He's like, yeah, but she's really light. If I only weighed 120 pounds. Yeah, I could probably do it too. And I'm like, I could probably strap on a more weight on Jessica and she could still probably do it. But I love, I love shit like that. Oh, God. Humble. Humbling moment. Those are the best. It's one of my favorite things. I don't care when I see, if I see a girl kick my ass, I think it's. No, just applaud it. Oh, I think it's awesome. Yeah. Oh, I love it. Appreciate it. I was going to ask you, Justin, some advice earlier and the earlier in the episode. I have a problem where if one of my kids, because right now my daughter six is home from school. I can't, I have such a tough time dealing with that shit. I get super paranoid. Do you get paranoid when your kids are sick? Or are you like cool? Like, okay, there you go. Oh yeah. No, I struggled with the same thing because you know that you're not there to kind of help manage the process. And like, you know, it's like out of your control. Right. So yeah, man, it's just, you got to hope that whoever is the caregiver at the time, you know, like you just, you kind of just check in, right? Throughout the day and just see how things are progressing and what's happening. But yeah, that's a tough one. The problem with me is that I can be such a hypochondriac that my mind's, and I know a decent amount. They're going to be okay. Yeah. I know that. I know that logically. You just have to tell yourself that. Because the symptoms that kids have like, oh, vomiting or fever or whatever. And it's like, oh, what if my kid has leukemia or some shit? You know, I always go like to the worst places. Yeah. And I freaked myself out. No, it's so bad. It's true. And I'm actually thankful. Terrible. It's kind of a weird place because my wife's a nurse. And so it's like, I lean heavy on that fact alone. But there's been moments where, you know, she'll lose sort of rational thinking. And then I have to kind of step in and be like, no, like this is just, you know, it's just choking. We're going to do this and just kind of be practical about it or like we're going to call. We're going to take them to the ER or whatever. Where I have to like step in and because it's, it's crazy when it's your own kid. Is she more likely to freak out than you are? I would think it would be you. Because I think she would be like, she's seen all kinds of crazy shit. She'd be like, ah, they'll be fine. Yeah. It's a little bit of dirt. Rub some dirt on it. I think, I think it's because she's exposed to the worst case scenarios all the time. Yeah, I would say, I would agree. That she assumes the worst. Like kind of what Sal's describing. That's interesting. I would have thought the other way. I try to, I try to come from the other angle where like maybe it's just this and we're just overreacting and we need to just be practical. She's like, no, the bird flu is going on right now. These are the same symptoms. Right? Get into the hospital now. Exactly. Or like, you know, some, like he's playing near the window and like she's had cases where kids fall the window and are coming into the hospital like all messed up. And I'm just like, you know, we'll just, we're not going to let them near the window. Like it's just like leaving them alone. They're not going to like crawl out the window. That's probably a unlikely situation, but it's stuff like that. Like, yeah, she sees the worst and I'm always trying to kind of bring it back to like, well, that's very much of a microcosm of what's going on. Like there's people that, you know, it does happen, but it's less frequent than you think. You just see it all the time. Yeah. It's just, it's just, I always get fucking scared. I hate that. I hate that because they're kids. They're going to get sick. They're going to get hurt. Like the odds that... Yeah, everybody wants to put them in a bubble. You know what? Speaking of the bubble thing, you guys, I didn't, I wanted to ask you because... Speaking of my bubble? Yeah. No, speaking of putting kids in a bubble or protecting them or cry closets, which that conversation stirred up quite the fuss on our forum. I meant to ask you what you... Yeah, it did because it was an art installation and people thought we were being harsh on the, you know, the younger generation and this and that. I mean, it's, it's... Yes, we are being harsh, but there is a reality that we tend to wrap kids in. Life is fucking harsh. Yeah. Come on. I think... I don't know. Like, it's that struggle. It's the same thing we're kind of describing with, like, the sick. They have to go through that process of having a fever and they have to, you have to give them the amount of time to be able to fight and build up their immune system towards things. And that's a hard thing to, I mean, it's your own kid, like to watch them go through that and like, or if you see any signs of like suffering or you want to like give them something, right? When did we decide that adversity and struggle was a bad thing? Well... When did this happen? You know what it is? When did it happen that struggle, hard times, adversity was such a bad thing? I think it's always been a bad thing. I think in the past, it was just, you had... There was nothing you could do about it. Like, you know what I mean? Like, your dad's working. You know, there's five kids in the family. You know, things are super physical even at home. We don't have, you know, all these luxuries and so we don't have technology that keeps you connected and tethered to your kid all the time. And so it was just the reality of life that... And so once we got to the point where we could try to eliminate more and more struggle... That's the thing. Yeah, we would do more... Because here's the deal. Here's the problem, Adam. Like, when I'm in pain, when I'm sick, when I'm doing something and it's challenging, as an adult, I can logically think to myself like, okay, it's supposed to be challenging. It's supposed to be hard. I get this. This is part of growth. When you have a kid and you see your kid in pain, it's just, it's fucking weird, man. It's hard. Like, you just don't want to have him in pain. You wish you could snap your fingers. I'll give you an example. I'll give you an example I saw... And this is not to, like, roll this parent under a bus or anything, but I saw a kid that... But you're gonna do it anyways. Well, I'm not gonna name names, but... So this kid, like, basically fell, scraped her knee, like, you know, had some blood and just basically what kids do, right? Like, it's in pain, crying, screaming, whatever. So the parent not only just, like, coddles the kid, like, crazy, but now gets ibuprofen and feeds him ibuprofen, like, immediately. For a scraped knee? For a scraped knee. Ibuprofen? Right. Never. I was appalled by what I saw with that, but at the same time, it kind of highlighted a lot of what I see with, I don't know, the current state of, like, everybody's mentality towards, you know, just struggle. And I feel like... I think that's why we kind of voice against things like the cry closet and, like, these sort of things that are emerging. It's, as parents, we want to set our kids up to be able to overcome their own... their own challenges, their own obstacles. Which are gonna happen. That's what strength is. Strength is being able to, you know, get through all these things that come at them in life. And I'm not setting them up for giving them the proper tools of how to find that within themselves. I'm not doing my job as a parent. Totally. I have, here's a great analogy, because we talk about, obviously, fitness most of the time. If there was a way that somebody could get all the benefits of fitness, the strength, the fat loss, the mobility, the health, you know, all the physical benefits from fitness without having to work out, put hard work in, sweat, you know, feel their body get sore, all that stuff, would they be getting the same benefits? Think about that, right? They would only be getting the physical benefits. But what about the other benefits you get through training? There's so many benefits I get from the pain of fitness, from the sacrifice of fitness, from the growing part. Teaching yourself discipline and consistency, you know, there's so many lessons in that. That's what I'm saying. Like, we think that these things are such a positive thing, but why isn't anybody looking at the negative side of it? Like, you're weakening that kid. You're weakening that person by doing that. It's real easy to say, as a parent, I want to coddle, I want to help them, or I want to build a cry closet so when finals get so tough they have a place but, okay, I get that. I get that you have a place and it supports you but do you get what that also could be setting you up for in life? Because if you think fucking finals for school is the hardest thing you're going to face, you know, in real life. Newsflash. You're in for a fucking rude awakening when you get out there. You know, I think it's, I think what's great about college and the struggle and those types of hard stressful moments is it's preparing you for even more. That's gonna happen later on in life in shittier times. It's the same, yeah. It's the same with sports. That's why you need to lose. You need to get your ass kicked in sports. Like, you gotta understand at least the environment is controlled environment, right? So that way when you face things in real life that you don't know the outcome, you don't know where this is even coming from. It just hits you from left field all of a sudden. How are you gonna get up and react? Keep on keeping on. You have to learn how to do that. Keep on keeping on. I might have been in song one day. So another interesting statistic from a study. Check this out. A study examining 5,000 women so it was a decent sample size found that women who ate fast food four times a week or more you ready for this? Double the risk of infertility. Infertility. So women who ate fast food a lot which obviously is probably not the fast food. It's the fact that they probably are unhealthy in general, right? Double the risk of infertility and there's a bit of an infertility issue that seems to be going on right now with people. Part of it is I think people are having kids a little later in life but I also think part of it is sperm counts are dropping and women are having issues with fertility and it might be due to the fact that they've been on birth control for long periods of time because they're not as healthy. Did you see what hit the news? Did you see what hit the news with the Big Mac guy? No. What's a Big Mac guy? He just hit, since 1972 he's been eating at least two Big Macs a day every single day. 30,000 Big Macs he's consumed. How old is he? Let's see here. He's 140. He's done. He's an interesting looking character. I don't know. He looks like he's in his late 50s or so I'd say. You know somebody's going to be like, see you can eat that way and be I want him to get a colonoscopy. He says I'm trying to get to 40,000 that'll take me another 14 years. What a goal. There's his name right there. There he is. Oh, he's a world record holder. His name is David Gorski. What a cool record. I wonder if he gets free Big Macs now. What a great scheme. How much bullshit is it if he doesn't get free Big Mac? I bought 30,000 these motherfuckers. Kick me some free ones. You got to think he's not normal if you're eating two, one to two of them every day. That's an obsessive compulsive. I just want to go on record saying though the fakest worst burger tastes the best as a Big Mac in my opinion. When's the last time you guys have had a Big Mac? Oh my God, at least five years. I never liked McDonald's burgers. I've never been a fan of Big Mac. I loved Big Macs. I was more prone to Carl's Jr. It is a lot of bread. That's a great point. This is crazy how much that shifted as I got older. Now I want a meaty burger with a light bun. As a kid I wanted all the carbs. I used to eat a Big Mac with two orders of fries or something because I loved all the carbs. I'm totally opposite now. If I go to get a burger, I'll get no fries and two big ones. McDonald's burgers just taste processed and engineered. That's why they're so good though. They hijacked their fries. They're the only thing that I can see people like oh wow, they have the best fries. There's a secret to that, right? Didn't we talk about this? There's a secret to what they do with the fries. There's also something they do to them. They made a deal with the devil. They inject like more syrup into their coke and stuff too. They have a couple little tricks they do that's pretty gangster. But that only knows their shakes when you let them melt. It's like snot. What? That's because they use the mix. I watched that documentary. The movie, The Founder. It's just a powder. Weird gelatinous snot. It's not even real ice cream. I used to love that too. The Big Mac, you know what I used to eat was the double quarter pound of a cheese. If I went to McDonald's, that was the burger that I had. Because it was more burger. I used to eat the chicken nuggets. That was that guy. You were that kid? All you eat is chicken nuggets. That was commercial with the little chicken nuggets. For picky kids, for picky eaters, that was the chicken nugget. Doug, did you see the special I bet you seen? The Jamie, what's his last name? Jamie something. He went across to America like health food stuff. His big thing, he was addressing the chicken nugget. Jamie, what's his last name? He does this thing. If you do this, Google Jamie Chicken Nuggets. I guarantee he'll pop up. This ruined it forever for me. This came on TV. I don't remember how long ago. He started making up some chicken. He wanted to show these kids how they were made. Jamie Oliver. There it is. He makes these chicken nuggets. When was this, when did this air? How long ago was it? I don't remember when the show. 2010 that was. It's at least eight years ago. This forever ruined chicken nuggets for me. I'll never touch a chicken nugget after watching this. That's the exact scene right there. Wow, you found it Doug. Good job. He chops it all up. You see him blend it and grind up all the bone and cartilage. That's what really makes this nugget. The crazy part is the kids are watching this right now. If you guys Google Jamie Oliver shows kids chicken nuggets it's a crazy video to watch. What I found the most fascinating about this video is the kids are getting disgusted by it when they see how he makes the chicken nuggets. Right now he's going to start to cut up all the cartilage and the bone and stuff and then blend it. The kids are like, they're gross. Then when it's all complete, you guys want some of these? They all wanted it. Of course. I thought that was really fascinating. They're all grossed out by the cartilage and then he blends it all together. Deep fries it and the kids are like pours it in and fries it. I never like their burgers that much. I like their fries. At least you're getting organ meat. Right? Yeah, that's true. But they add more than just that. There's more than just chicken in there. There's other stuff in there. Don't get us sued by fucking McDonald's. I heard things. I heard things. Oh my God. You had one five years ago. When was the last time you had McDonald's? I don't even know. I avoided that specific. I would say I'd have Wendy's. Probably the last time I had fast food was probably Wendy's. They put fingers in people's food. That's bullshit. In the chili. She put a finger in chili. Was it her owner? I think so. Something like that. You guys put a finger in it. It's your own finger. If you're going to put a finger in your chili and try and sue a company, use another finger. What is everyone's last? So yours was Wendy's. I would have to say mine was probably McDonald's probably five years ago or so. I remember the day. I went and bought two Big Macs and a fry and then came back and watched 16 and pregnant. Boy, was I not feeling good. I was sick now. I was coming off being sick. If only somebody would give you a hug. You went and gone through all those steps. Did you have instant diarrhea? I don't think I did actually because I think I was sick for like two weeks. Sometimes when you get out of a flu you kind of crave that greasy nasty food. You don't crave like that. Yeah, exactly. So I was after being sick having the flu for a couple of days. It was the last day that I was staying home from work and I was like, oh, you know what? I haven't had a Big Mac in years. I'm a grown up. I'm going to go do this. I drove down and got myself two Big Macs fries. Came back. I guess you want the toy. The last thing I ate was probably Carl's Jr. That's my favorite. You know what's going to happen now that we're talking about this. Someone's going to make a run at some point. Double Western bacon cheese. Five years ago it was probably about the last time I had it. About seven or eight years ago was when I stopped ever having it in my diet and then of course I had the few times of, let me try this. It's been a long time. Enough times I've had been torn up in my gut from it that I might not even want it anymore. You know what's funny though? I can imagine the taste of McDonald's and I can also imagine the taste of Taco Bell and both of those I haven't had for probably 10 years. But I can still feel the taste of Taco Bell bean burrito. It used to be a go-to, like a bean burrito and a soft taco. Not even realizing even the nutrients. You want to talk about if you're bulking when I was a kid, when I was bulking if I had a little bit of money the amount of food I could get, go to Taco Bell. I'd spend 20 bucks there and I'd have a tray of so much food and I'd crush it all. I don't know why I have gut issues now. It's so strange. I wonder where that came from. Wonder what happened. Weird. Organifi fills the gap with laboratory-tested certified organic superfoods to help give your health the performance of the added edge. Try Organifi totally risk-free for 60 days by going to Organifi.com. That's O-R-G-A-N-I-F-I.com and use a coupon code MINEPOMP for 20% off at checkout. Our first question is from T. Fluet. The ketogenic diet seems to be excellent for mental function and longevity but what about performance? As a men's physique athlete I love the weight loss of keto but is it possible to perform and grow without glucose as a fuel and glycogen-depleted muscle? Sure, sure. But you know what, it's speaking to the fads. It's not ideal. Speaking of the fads, here's another fad. This keto fad is getting ridiculous. Keto, fasting and CBD are annoying me this year. I'm annoyed. Anytime something has merit, that's what they do. They whore it out. That's the hard part about it, is it does have merit. I have a lot of good things to say about all three of those things. In fact, we've talked about it on the show but it's inevitable, we take some shit like that and then we... Here's how you know keto has gone to mainstream. So I started watching the Jersey Shore reunion which is a... If you're a Jersey Shore fan you will like it. I was a big fan of the Jersey Shore. They look amazing now. They look amazing. Botox and drugs. You look exactly what you thought. That time frame would look like. Mike, the situation has now changed his name too. What was his name? The Contribution? I think his name was or something like that. The Contribution? I don't remember what it was. He changed it because he's not doing drugs anymore except now he's fat because all he does is eat. It's a different situation. Vinny, you guys remember Vinny on the Jersey Shore? Vinny, he's like lean now. The most normal guy. No, now he parties hard on there too. So he's really lean now and the reason why he's lean is he does keto. Oh, great. You know what Polydene calls him? The Keto Guido. The Keto Guido. Brilliant. But that's how you know keto has gone to mainstream. It's what it's on the Jersey Shore. Everywhere I go I hear it now. I hear people... I just stay out of these conversations when I was at a barbecue and I'm listening to people, oh, you ketogenic and oh, no, I'm doing the intermittent fasting diet right now and I'm just here. I'm like, oh, God. There we go. So there's a couple misconceptions here. First off, glycogen depleted muscles. You do deplete your body of glycogen but they've actually found that muscles actually hold on to a decent amount of glycogen even when you're in keto. And you actually, by going keto, you train the body to hold on to more. One of the things that was really difficult for me when I was competing early on was keeping my muscle bellies filled up because I was shuttling. I had trained my body. My body had got adapted to consuming 400 to 600 grams of carbohydrates. Therefore I would watch my muscles deplete over hours. It'd be the craziest thing ever. Yeah, it would inflate and deflate and I was constantly trying to find just the right amount to inflate them up so I looked filled out. When I stopped eating so much carbohydrates, it became much easier to control that. So there's some real big benefits to going keto like that and then reintroducing carbohydrates. Now, as far as mental function, first off, longevity, there's a lot of different ways to eat for long-term health. Ketogenic diet seems to be good for that for some people. I think in modern western lifestyle, a ketogenic diet seems to be excellent for longevity. Not necessarily because it's the ketogenic diet that's great, but more so because people who grow up in the standard American diet, when they eliminate all those carbohydrates, bump up their healthy fats, they see a huge difference. I do think that a lot of people, their bodies have a tough time utilizing sugar. I think that there's a lot more people that have insulin issues than they realize. So then when they go keto, and their mitochondrias are now functioning a little faster, everybody's like, wow, I feel so much better. Here's the biggest problem I have. Oversaturated. The biggest problem that I have with the ketogenic diet is that now that it's gone mainstream, a majority of people are like this, like, yeah, I'm keto, or at least I try to be keto and very few people have the discipline to follow any sort of diet consistently and strict. And the ketogenic diet is arguably one of the hardest diets to follow consistently and strict. And it may, I would argue that it could potentially have the most detriment because if you're already a classic yo-yo diet or the binge and purge type of mentality when it comes to eating, somebody who goes keto for two weeks and then falls off and then goes keto and then falls off, boy, you can't, if you've been eating ketogenic for a long time, you will change your body's need now for carbohydrates. It's different. Most people I talk to that say they're on a ketogenic diet are like basically doing a carnivore diet. And that's, literally, maybe it's like they're adding butter, they're coffee, but then they're, I'm like, okay, so what do your meals look like? They're eating eggs, they're eating, like everything they mention has protein and they don't even realize it's like a true ketogenic diet, like we're trying to get as much just fat, just fat as we can. It's very challenging. Ketogenic diets definitely low carb, but not all low carb diets are technically ketogenic diets. So now, when I talk about ketogenic diets, I'm talking about the medical application and what they typically or what they're supposed to look like, which is mostly fat, moderate protein, and extremely low carbohydrate. Now, can you be in ketosis and eat a ton of protein? You can. I think it makes it a little bit more difficult, but there's some studies now showing that. It might not be as big of a deal as we thought it was, but I think you're right, Justin, because people take the approach, and eating a lot of fat and not looking at food quality, it doesn't matter, you know what I mean? Like, oh, I'm just going to eat a lot of fat and they end up eating a lot of fried, you know, fried foods. They're picking lots of vegetable oils. It's like vegans who stop eating certain things and then they also need a ton more process or french fries and potato chips. Right, right. Now, here's the thing. Do you notice an improvement in mental function when you go ketogenic? Sure, I do. Not all people do, but most people do. I get very sharp, so for me, when I do my 48-hour fast, I go... If that's even possible, he gets very sharp. Not just like razor. Think of the most sharp, that's me. It's sharper than that. So I do a fast every month. After the fast, I go hardcore keto for about a week and I always notice I'm much faster with my words. I can think quicker. I've got better verbal fluency. I notice a big difference. I love all these diets for people to try out. I think that when I was coaching clients, I used to teach all of it. I would tell a client, let's be vegan for a month. Let's see how your body responds and let's talk about it. Let's have discussion around is this an easy diet for you to follow? Are you sleeping? How's your skin? How's your sex? All these things. Now I want to flip that on its head. Let's run ketogenic for a while. Let's talk about how you feel. Let me help you connect the dots to the reason why you're feeling that way. It has nothing to do with the name of this made-up fucking diet. You're just readjusting the focus. The focus is on consuming fats and running off of ketones. Your body has a chance to operate in another operating system. What does that even feel like? Why don't you go through that and challenge yourself? Or go through an intermittent fast protocol and refrain from food. See what that does as far as the social aspects of food in general and what that's going to do for you moving forward and then vegan adding more vegetables. That may be the most impactful thing that you got from it. That's not where you stay. This dieting thing I have a hard time believing that eating one way for then on out is going to do all that well for you. No, I don't think so. Each viable way of eating has you'll find tends to have pluses and minuses for you. For me, when I go keto improved mental function consistent energy throughout the day I tend to get a little leaner but here's some of the negatives. My strength tends to decrease so I do lose some strength I do lose some power. I don't get as good a pumps when I work out in the gym. If you're trying to build muscle and improve athletic performance ketogenic diet except for maybe steady-state long duration low intensity type cardio activity I don't think keto is great but if I wanted to be as strong as possible and build as much muscle as possible I would throw in some starches for sure. I don't need a ton of them but I would definitely throw them in. That's what's awesome is if you've been on both sides of this Exactly, you have your tools, right? Yes, I do this all the time I don't follow a structured diet but there's definitely days you could say just over the weekend I ate very much so ketogenic Was there a reason Not really, I knew I wasn't going to be training that day We were at a barbecue where I knew there was going to be a bunch of meat and stuff being served I wasn't moving or exercising very much I don't need a lot of carbohydrates that day I'll just lower my inflammation a little bit Right, and now I can enjoy I got to enjoy some sausage and ribeye and some things that were a little bit higher in fat and calories so I'm going to pull back on the carbohydrates and then today's Monday so guess what, Katrina is on her way over here right now with a nice chicken and rice I'm going to get a bowl so I'm going to shuttle some carbs into me and in about two hours I'll be lifting and I'm going to use and just great is because I've now trained my body to get used to a much lower carbohydrate intake man, then 50 to 80 grams of carbs I'm about to consume I'm going to feel great I'm going to feel great into that workout I'm going to use all of it and then afterwards maybe I'll have another meal that has some carbs and meat and then the rest of the night I'll probably go all meat Here's how I use the ketogenic diet I'm going to do a lot of podcasts with other people then I'll typically go keto because it keeps me sharper on the podcast if I know we're going to do something very physical or if I want to appear more muscular then I'll throw in some more carbohydrates and get a little bit more pumped up if my gut is off then I tend to go more ketogenic or fast or fasting if I'm not very active and I'm at home fasting, that's when I may go more veganish where I'm not having any animal proteins at all it's mostly vegetables and vegetable fats or the good ones like coconut oil, olive oil I like to go elvish Next question is from Miranda O'Dell Difference in weighted glute bridges or weighted hip thrusts in developing all three parts of the glutes So a glute bridge and a hip thrust are the same thing So I think we'll try and address this a couple different ways So one, I think that I know Doug had to change the wording around because I don't think he understood the question but I think she was one trying to ask us the three parts of the glutes or the different parts of your glute and then I also think wondering what is the difference between all these glute exercises A couple of points I want to make One I see this a lot with the band distraction now and ever since Brett Contreras and the hip thrust I see him in the gym like crazy and everybody's thrusting away I'm super pro that when I see somebody using the thrust with some weight because I think that's great I think it's a great way to build some strength and I think it's a great way to build the glutes but really targeting different parts of your glute the bridge and the thrust are going to be pretty much the same unless you start to manipulate your position of your feet and really externally rotate your feet you're going to see your glute and really that's just because you're rotating the femur out and then having to keep that out while you're also thrusting so you can target more of different parts of your glutes but I also think that I see a lot of these band distractions and kickbacks and donkeys and all these things and girls are pumping reps out like crazy or the other one that drives me fucking crazy is the weighted assisted pull-up machine and the girls and they're pushing it down with their leg like you're good luck building an ass doing that just because you feel your ass good luck just because you feel it burn somewhere because you're working or moving a muscle doesn't necessarily mean that you're going to develop or build that to be a big strong muscle you have three parts of the glutes the maximus which is basically the big part of the cheek that's like the lower part of it you have the medius which is up at the top and then the minimus which is kind of near the sides those work with what's called the hip abduction so legs come apart you're going to get a lot of activation and the minimus and medius and the maximus is the one that kicks the leg back or kicks it down bridges I just by the way for the first time in my life have incorporated hip thrusts into my routine I've done them before but it's now actually a part of my routine and it is a skill like any other exercise so because I've never done it before I'm starting real light I haven't gone over like 200 pounds yet I've only done it twice and it definitely hits the glutes differently than you know squats or deadlifts and I'll let you guys know what kind of carryover I get I'm going to get a lot of carryover because it's a skill that I've never focused on before and although I'm using a weight that right now I feel like is enough for me because I'm trying to practice it I can tell that I can get a lot stronger I feel like I'll be able to get up to 300 pounds or more on doing this and I'll let you guys know what happens but you definitely feel a different part not a different part of the glutes it's just isolated well here's what it is when you look at the way gravity is pulling down on the weight and the muscle that's directly underneath it it's changing it's still a compound movement it's still a compound it's very weak on all the other muscles though in my opinion it's one of the closest thing to isolating the glutes with a strong lift if that makes sense to isolate the glutes from like a bilateral type of movement versus because for me I immediately think to go into unilateral movements like a Bulgarian split squat or something like that to really help enhance the glutes well here's where I get here's where you get more or different out of the hip thrust all the resistance is very high at the top of the movement when your glutes are fully contracted you don't get that with any other heavy compound glute movement so not necessarily that it's superior because I think it's changing the strength curve when you do a barbell squat most of the tension on your glutes is at the bottom so it's in that stretch position with the bridge it's a lot of it's at the very top which actually speaks to the point that we talked about with Pukulski that I think is really unique so if you are a female who is trying to develop your glutes I think there is a lot of value in the glute bridge if you're somebody who's not your glutes are fine and you're not really focused on them I think it's a waste of time I don't think it's a and I know Brett Contreras would probably argue with me all day long about that but if you're a guy who doesn't care about developing your butt that much it's not a staple the amount of work that it takes to put all those weights on like I see some of these guys unless you're doing some serious bedroom stuff yeah when else are you gonna be doing that I'm just again I'm always the guy who's gonna do as little as possible to list the most amount of change and I know how long it takes to set that up like to set up for 20-30 minutes to set up a hip thrust I'm like dude I could have done Bulgarian squats front squats and back squats by the time I get one setup for some heavy ass hip thrust and on top of that I'm not now if I was training a girl my girl does these so when we work out together and we train my girl does hip thrust so I'm not anti anti hip thrust what's my workout look like today one exercise 15 sets right hip thrust all day long but I think there's okay so just so everybody knows I just posted this on my Insta story I'll have Jackie make sure she puts the direct link we have a free resource page on our website one of the resources is an incredible article that Sal wrote it's 5,000 words so it's very detailed about building an incredible butt and probably a lot of the mistakes that people make when trying to do that and some of the do's and the don'ts and so free article it's at our resource page she'll hopefully put the link right there I just posted in my story the other day obviously it'll be gone by time this comes up but you know check that page out read up on that and we address targeting the different parts of glutes inside that article and for the most part what we found I mean it's typically it's in the setup it's when there's no communication going into that part of your body and so how to set yourself up properly to be able to get that communication open and channeled and how to use that in your workouts will make a massive difference this is where I really love hip thrust see I love hip thrust as like some one of a prime right priming my glutes I've always used it that prime it then go into a squat yes feel it because a lot of people just don't don't have don't know how to get the glutes activated or when you squat your body just goes into default in the default pattern for a lot of people's quad dominant so they push out of the squad with their quads what a great way to prime the brain feel the feel the bud is to do some hip thrust before and then go into that and then it another great way to prime it is to you know if you want the glute mead which I think is one of the most neglected parts of the but because we just we don't tend to externally rotate our feet like that fuck you want some good shit in here on building glutes when was the last time you sumo deadlifted or sumo squatted impress your knees out yes sumo squat or sumo deadlift that ain't in your movement like and that's an order of operation here and classic squat to get under to get under a squat bar and do some sumo squats or grab a deadlift bar and do sumo deadlifts so much quicker and easier to do that and the benefits that you get from that movement in comparison to the hip thrust pretty damn fucking close man especially if you're not used to doing that if you don't if you always conventional deadlift or you always conventional squat do some sumo style with the feet externally rotated and opening the knees out oh man well the reason why I put it in my routine now is Robert Oberst was talking about him last time we were hanging out with him and yeah he he said that that was a great exercise so you know you hear from someone like that who competes at such a high level I think he just I know I think he just he just completed right the world's competition yeah I believe he got like do you get ninth or seventh or something like that he's I mean he's one of the top 10 strongest men or strongest strong man competitors in the world what exactly did he say why he does it did he tell you why I don't remember him I don't remember why I know he he made it cool and he made it a point to talk about those Zercher squats which is obvious why they would do those but so I'll let you guys know what the carry over is because I've never built I've never personally used it myself like as it in a routine on a consistent basis for me I've done it with other clients so if I see carry over to my squats or to my deadlifts then I'm gonna I'm gonna keep using them but I definitely felt different in that movement because I've never really done it I like I like him for building glutes I'm playing devil's advocate here with just saying that talking the shit about it because I think it's I think it's getting it's hyped again like anything else you know now I see it all over the place and that's what everybody's doing it's like well if you're using it's all like dude start comparing PRs that's happening it's happening right now I was it's I was gonna insta story I was gonna talk shit it was I saw Matt ogis and or ogis or ogre I can't even spell his last name I don't know how he says it but he was doing it they've been going back and forth with it and we don't have a relationship yet so I didn't want to throw a jab and then him take it the wrong way like I'm really picking on him it's like so I didn't do any I actually hashtag no one cares well that's it was actually gonna be something like that I was like not very cool you know whatever no bragging right yeah not very cool dude so but whatever you know I think it's a it's it's a tool like anything else if you're a grappler that's an exercise for sure that you can I could see some big benefit especially if you're in a jujitsu like thrusting someone off well you bridging is bridging is a staple movement in all grappling yeah all grappling especially wrestling because you don't want to get that's a good point I could see that that's a I could see a lot of we practiced a lot of bridging when I did jujitsu we did a lot of bridging not not with weight but we would bridge and practice rolling over our shoulder and sure bridging with opponents on you because you never want to be flat on your back in jujitsu you want to be able to move your hips out to the side look at it like a board and with wrestling same thing so there's a very functional movement for grappling sports I've seen some some you know literature showing that it can contribute to sprint speed and all that stuff but in comparison to squats I don't know if there's really a comparison but I'll let you guys know if I see some carryover so far so good so far I've done it twice and I think I like it do you feel stupid doing it though? no it's in my garage so nobody can see how's the setup? I put my bench up against the wall I got to get under the barbell roll it up to my body lift it up it hurts on your it hurts on your fucking pelvis that's the thing that I had that's I'm going to get the noodle doesn't know we have a noodle here we do we have two of them so you take one home make sure you make sure you find I think one is up you got to go get that because I fell off the ladder last time it's up on the you know the bathtub thing that we did the other one is up there so leave one here because my girl uses the one here so don't steal that one for your home garage because I know she wants it I'll just order a noodle then get up on the ladder just get the other one I don't like it up there we have a new ladder we've seen what happens that's right we have a taller ladder now that would have helped Doug next question is from Sagan Sanders I turned 29 yesterday if each of you had one thing to say about turning 30 what would it be? do you guys remember your 30th? what did you guys do for your 30th? I don't remember what I did I had a family over and stuff wasn't that big of a deal? you know this is an interesting question I feel like the 30s is like the 20s war back in the day you know what I mean? a long time ago 30 was like you were like you should have a house you need to have a family now it's like when you turn 30 then you start thinking about those things not that you're there but it's almost like oh now I got to start thinking about so I don't know what I would say to somebody turning 30 other than you know here's something I could say start taking your start looking at taking investments seriously that would be a good one if you start now and you get smart about investing your money you don't need a lot of money by the way but figure out how to invest your money invest a little bit of your paycheck every single month that you get paid 30 by the time you're 50 you should be pretty well off you'd be doing pretty well I think the big realization that I had when I turned 30 was and I think we would all say this about each other that we're all pretty self aware guys right I think at turning 30 I think I was really just truly figuring out who I was and I think you have you got to be really open minded because if you would have told me at 27 I would have argued with you right at 27 I would have been like you know what I fucking want I know what I need I think you think you know what you want and need in your 20s but I really think that's when you're figuring all that out is piecing together like what really motivates you know me what really makes me happy what am I looking for in a life partner what are the why what is my purpose behind all this and if I did achieve with these things that I think I want so bad would it fulfill me the way I think so a lot of that's happening and I think in my for me in my in my 30s I think I've become I'm the most comfortable in my own skin at 30 then I was in my 20s I felt like I could take everything on you know through my 20s like it was just this this ability I just motor through everything and everything was just going to work out and I think once I got to 30 that's where like you yeah you have this like moment where you sort of reassess how everything has been working for you and and you reflect a lot I think once you get to 30 where it's like you know you might start seeing some signs of I have like new aches pains or you know some of the things I've been doing forever just really aren't working for me or you know maybe I'm not like on that career path I thought I was going to be or you know what am I actually going to do with this this degree or you know it's a almost have like this moment where you have to kind of figure things out like specifically how to do the next leg you know what pissed me off that the pain thing that you said because that was something that really stung me that I remember people telling me when I was like in my mid 20s as a trainer and they'd be like oh wait till you hit your 30s you're going to feel this and that and I remember like having this chip on my shoulder all through my 20s being like fuck that I'm a fitness guy I'm a trainer I stay in shape like I know the body not going to affect me no I'm not I can defy the laws I used to well I used to tell people I'm like you're only as old as you feel because of how you take care of yourself and I plan to take a lot of truth in that though there is and that's why I really believe you're not going to bounce back like you used to right that's one but I do know being in my 30s now and seeing these what it is is you start to pick up these habits or you start to notice things that you did and I'm you know on this note I'm really really interested to see what our kids look like in the next five to ten years just five to ten years within with this iPhone generation because I just noticed just recently I went through the whole testosterone thing injuring myself so in the last probably five six years that was probably the longest stint that I had kind of not use the gym I was not I wasn't working out for about three months there and I tell you what in three months time and continuing doing my daily stuff which we have to do for work which is sitting on a computer and a phone every now and then I have noticed my forward head like excessively come forward in three months time so and I'm aware like I noticed that shit and I'm trying to do little things to combat it so I'm asking myself whoa what is what are these kids that are 12 15 years old they're all going to look like Brian Shrimp and I'm telling you remember I fucking said this on this show right now this is going to be a very hot topic in five to ten years back back pain is the already statistically sort of coming out showing that kids are having neck and back pain at unprecedented levels from all that and so I think that in 30 you really start to kind of see all this especially if you ended up getting a desk job or you're in a car a lot or you fly in a plane a lot you start to notice these things that you've you've been forced to do in this job that you're doing now for the last five ten 15 years and in 30s come around and it starts to let you know that it's there and that's really the people say oh you're getting older it's not an older thing it's that hey for now the last ten years I've been huddled over a computer you know I wasn't doing that as a kid I was spending more time swimming in a pool and playing basketball outside where your priorities have shifted and because your priorities have shifted there's always a cause and effect right with something like this and that's the effect that I'm getting from being at a desk in a phone I've been watching my my cousins because I have younger there's a lot of male cousins in my family there's a lot of us and there's my generation and we're all in our late 30s and then there's this the second generation who's now in their early 30s so they're either 30 or 31 or 32 and I'm watching all these guys and they're great guys great kids everybody has got you know good families or whatever but it's funny when I see how they date now it's very different like in their 20s it was all about just sleeping with girls going out partying meeting as many as people as I can now they're they're doing that way less and when we talk about it they're like you know I don't really care about doing all that I want to meet someone really cool or whatever and you can see the guys now are starting to like they want to meet someone that's a little that's going to give it not necessarily like to get married but just they want more out of a relationship how accessible it is because the market has changed well and also also here's the other thing I think that I had a conversation with them about this I said because who is it was my cousin he was talking about he's like man he goes when I go out now he goes I get hit on by girls a lot he goes I used to never happen to me and I looked at him like it's your your little older now you look a little more seasoned like guys don't really get attracted to like their 30s and I think maybe that's why they're all kind of looking for a little bit more because maybe it's easier for them I don't know I think it's more accessible because of the tools that we have disposable I mean it's just now you could be a 25 year old and drop into a city you know zero about no nobody whatever turn on yeah bumble tender all the other well not even if you're just getting out like to meet other people and go on a date like it was I mean think about that think about 20 years ago dropping into a city you've never Austin we drop into Austin we're there to party for a week go out by yourself yeah you got to go out and you got to go US and figure out where all the places are then you go there then you talk to 10 people to find out most of them are just there to dance the girls they have they already have men at home and have any intention you know I'm saying you strike out all night that could easily be a night where now with these apps not only can I figure out where all the single women are but I can find the ones that match my personality you know like oh she's into the things I am I can yeah before you go out yeah crazy so no more adventure in it it's easy it's you know it's like it's like if you were fishing and it's difference between going out in the ocean and fishing besides going in a pond that they start going to like a trout farm yeah a trout far where you can see the fish swimming around everywhere it's about a 10 by 10 is lazy fuckers right because you know the trout how lame would that be after a while after a while you cast your pole and you know you're gonna catch a fish every goddamn time it's not fun anymore I want that big mouth bass yeah next up saris Alexander what would be the best way to back out of endurance training without gaining a lot of weight this is a problem a lot of people have when they when they go real hard in consistent with endurance type training and then they back out of it I think a lot of them gain a lot of weight I think it's really hard if you were like a ultra marathon runner or a runner like crazy five six seven days a week and you just back off the running and that's it but if you replace that I've done this many many times with clients that are worked pure runners if if you can get them to switch their mindset to lifting weights and like like lifting heavy weights and training shit all the the extra calories that you're gonna be consuming because obviously if you were running and burning a lot of manual calories before that you no longer can technically just stop that running and then still consume that without putting body fat on that's the problem is a lot of people will stop and then they'll eat the same amount right which you can't what you can't unless you were putting if you were fall like you were if you went like from somebody who never really lifted weights consistently but you ran like crazy and then you stopped running and you switched to like a maps anabolic type of program I think you could eat almost the same and be okay I really do that be that be a good you know to play it safe I would agree with you Adam but to play it safe I would tell someone if you're backing off your endurance start lifting weights you know heavy traditional type resistance training like a maps anabolic a little bit and mostly from the carbs just cut the carbs down you don't need as much glycogen because you're not running anymore and and then slowly let your appetite tell you how much you need to eat as you're transitioning more to resistance training is usually how I do it with with with clients that have done that I've done this with clients because they had to like I've had clients come and see me and I'm like okay we need to back off the the endurance training because you're doing way too much we want to speed up your metabolism your body starting to adapt in a bad way hormones are off wherever you're doing too much running you're running 30 miles a week let's bring that down to 15 to start with and then throw in some resistance training and eventually I bring them down to like you know seven miles a week or something like that so they can still get some running yeah but they're not doing the ridiculous amount well that's where it's probably the hardest is if you have somebody who's already weight training and they're also endurance running on top of that like now you have a little bit more of a challenge to to keep them from not gaining weight when they reduce all that running if you're running five miles a day plus and then in addition that I already got you weight training three four times a week like that that person right there I had have to scale about their calories but a lot of I mean I've also taken you know runners that have don't lift weights at all and switch them straight over to lifting and they actually end up getting to eat more they and I've seen that because they just they start packing on the muscle because they haven't lifted any weight whatsoever and their their metabolism starts roaring and then they're freaking out like I had some yeah like super responders once actually because they yeah they've avoided resistance training for so long it's such a new stimulus but yeah I think you're right about like just cutting out just you know just shave a bit of the calorie amount off you know initially if that's like a big concern of yours like for me just kind of getting him in a different mindset a lot of times like I'm not super like concerned about a little bit of a weight gain the transition but if it's like you know like if you're sitting around if you're just transitioning cold turkey you're gonna gain weight you know you're not remaining active in pursuing you know other stimulus so really the psyche of this person is what I'd have to address yeah because I have no like this this person could be three different mindsets going into this and all three of them I'd have to approach differently right I mean if you have somebody who is you know they run because they're scared to put on weight or they're like you know that's a right that's a that's a little bit more of a sensitive topic that we have to talk about is how I would strategically do that if the person just loves running and realizes that it's time for them to back off a little bit because you don't want that to turn to them start themselves as a result of you know like they used to run run it off now I'm just gonna like right or sometimes those clients are afraid too of putting muscle on they I don't want to be all bulky and that's why they run like crazy because they have this obsession with this like skinny anorexic look all right and then you know you they could be doing weight because they could be doing phenomenal right you switch them out from running like that and they put three four pounds on it but it's all muscle yeah and you're pumped as a trainer you're like fuck yeah we're doing great they're like my shirts aren't fitting the same way like 20 pounds and you're just like yeah whatever you look awesome right so so it the psyche going into this matters a lot on who I'm what I'm saying to them but yeah I know a few this is a hard it's one of the biggest challenges I ever had with as a trainers you'd get and this doesn't need necessarily applied specifically to endurance athletes but you know I get people who were college like phenomenal college athletes but now they're overweight or people who worked out super hard at one point and we're really fit and then they stop working out now they're super overweight and the problem is you get used to a certain lifestyle of eating with all that calorie burn that is a tough thing to switch you're you're you're so skewed at what a normal meal looks like I had a I had a female client who like it was like six or seven years out of college she'd been working she had a kid and she had to lose something like 40 or 50 pounds but when she was in college she was a high level competitive swimmer so when she could so when I'm talking or I'm talking about a nutrition she's like well I don't I still eat really healthy I eat you know chicken breast and vegetables and then she's telling me what she's eating and so I started having her way her food this girl had no idea what a normal you know a normal portion look like for her a normal chicken breast was like 12 ounces well that worked great when she was swimming you know for three hours twice a day dude but I'm like you know you can't eat that's not a normal I literally went through the same process coming from college football because so not only did I play I would practice in the morning I would wait actually I'd wait train in the morning and then we go to practice then we play basketball and then we review films and whatever so I'm just like or not I'd work as a bartender so I was like always on my feet and just like go go go go go and then I was done and I was in I was eating the same way I was eating you know just whatever didn't give a fuck it's so hard for you to figure out what normal is yeah and and then you can yeah you just realize like oh my god like wow what's happening I had to completely adjust my entire way of looking at food and now prioritizing like moving like that was just something that I did so yeah yeah so check this out if you go to your podcast excuse me your app store on your phone you can get the mind pump media podcast app it's free it allows you to search for any topic within all of our almost 800 episodes that we've already put up we're approaching 800 already close thank you for listening to mind pump if your goal is to build and shape your body dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance check out our discounted rgb super bundle at minepumpmedia.com the rgb super bundle includes maps anabolic 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