 It was on Twitter when I saw you tweeting with Snowden. That was weird. That was crazy. Can you just talk about that a little bit? Because he's not here. No, it's almost not fair. It's almost not fair. He's not here to... I can win the argument. But he got on... He actually tweeted something about the wire, which was... As is his want. This report came out that said the guys who did the terrorist attacks didn't use encryption. Because now the big fights, of course, over Apple and encryption. He's trying to argue that the government should have no interest in trying to upset encrypted material. So he said, oh, look, they didn't use encryption. They used burners. They used disposable cell phones to do that. And he said, so, the FBI should question David Simon. So I got on the Internet and he's got 2 million followers. I didn't think he was going to respond. But I said, you know, that's kind of an argument for maybe monitoring disposable cell phones, which is kind of the metadata program that you blew up at the beginning of this, which it is. So he was literally like shifting and saying, oh, it's not encryption. Pay no attention to my right hand, which just gave up everything we were trying to do with metadata. I mean, if you understand metadata, that's what they were trying to do, which is they get onto a cell phone number in Tajikistan or wherever, and they're trying to run it very fast through a haystack of all the call data to see are they in touch with anybody. And of course, if the phone's about to be discarded, if it only has a shelf life of a day or two days or three days, it's possible, which was the argument for the big data pile. So I thought his argument was sort of presuming that people were guilty before they were innocent and that it was an expansion. He's got a lot of arguments, but the one that, you know, having done a lot of wiretap cases as a reporter, I understand that DNRs are a stage before anybody's listening to your calls, and there is a strategic argument to having if you're trying to run a needle through a haystack, run it through very fast, and that's what the NSA was arguing for. Now, whether or not you believe they should have that haystack, there's lots of different arguments. I'm not saying that it's not something we should be discussing and all credit to Snowden for starting the discussion, but this was a little bit of chutzpah to use another Yiddish term of, oh, it's not encryption, so we're, wait a sec, you know, a year ago, I mean, the NSA was working on a program so that if you kept switching off your cell phone repeatedly through the day, that would be like, wait a sec, some guy has a cell phone in Lahore, Pakistan, and it keeps going on and off, so it's on only, you know, for 20 minutes a day. That's an algorithm. We can chase that. We can try to isolate that. So, it's like, well... Because they don't have Verizon and AT&T, so you can't blame them. Right, so then all of a sudden, he tweets back, and here he comes, and he's going like, well, you know, but the average shelf life of a cell phone is, you know, is days are not minutes in terrorism, and I said, I don't know, you know, in Baltimore, where people don't have a lot of money and where you can buy a cell phone, but you know, they got more money than they got in the wilds of Pakistan, and they got more 7-Elevens where you can buy, you know, some of these guys don't turn them out, you know, they don't turn over their cell phones for two days, three days, sometimes a week, sometimes two weeks. You know, you're not, in a criminal conspiracy, you're not trying to catch the master criminal, you're trying to catch the sloppiest, laziest fucker. And you just told them all, you know, a year ago, don't be sloppy, lazy, because they're listening to you, so it's like, and then it was back and forth, and I thought, after about an hour and a half, I lost them, I had to go to my mother's house. Sorry, I got to take the grand kid over to my mother's house. And then at some point, I said something else that pissed him off, and he said, I'm not going to go to my mother's house today. So I had an adventure on Twitter with them, and we were very polite with each other, we were very polite. Oh, more than polite, I mean, it was excited to be talking to you, it seemed like. Oh, no, I think he was just, you know, I think I stepped on a little point.