 And one of the cool things, a lot of people don't know this. They've heard how he would do these early morning legendary workouts. But in another conversation, he explained to me why. He said that even the most dedicated NBA players will come in in the off season, and they'll work out twice a day. They'll come in mid-morning and work out for two to three hours. They'll go home, get some lunch, rest, and they'll come back early afternoon for two to three hours. And he said, if I only do what everybody else in the NBA is doing, I'll never be able to beat them. So I need to do more than they're doing. So he figured, if he got up and got his first workout at 4 AM, when he's coming home from workout number one, his competition is coming into the gym for workout number one. So he's always one step ahead. And he said, that might not make a huge difference in one off season, but if I do that every single year over the span of a long career, he said, I'll be untouchable. No one will ever catch me because I'll simply outwork them.