 But let folks, we're just letting folks know that this meeting is being recorded and I will call it to order at 205pm. This is the May 15th meeting of the African Heritage Reparation Assembly with the extension of chapter 20 of the acts of 2021 this meeting will be conducted via remote means members members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so via zoom or by telephone. No in person attendance of members of the public will be permitted but every effort will be made to ensure the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time via technological means. I'm going to just do a quick sound check. Say hello to everyone and make sure everyone can hear and be heard and I'll start with you Ivan. Yes, I can hear everyone. I hope you can hear me. Yes, coming through. Good. Thank you. Dr roads. I can hear everyone and I can see everyone. These those people are present. Great. And as British. I can hear you but I can only see who talks I still can't get this fixed right, but I'm right here. Okay, good, because you're on your iPad is that the. Yeah, I just can't get a picture of everybody just me and the person who's talking. So I guess that's good. All right. And Pamela, I see your hand is up. Yes, please. Yeah, so I did see Dr Shabazz was in the attendees but he did you move him over. I didn't know. Okay, so he may be trying to get in. Okay. I mean, my eye on that I'll keep my eye on that. Yeah. Okay. All right. Well, I'm going to turn my. I'm going to turn my camera off, but I'll hang on for a few minutes and in case there's any technical issues. Okay, perfect. Thank you, Pamela. Great to see you. All right. So we, we have a pretty decent agenda today. So I do want to just check in and do a time check for folks to know what hard stops folks might have. Dr Rhodes, what time do you need to leave today. Well, Yeah, right now. No. 330. Okay. Thank you. And Yvonne. Three. Okay. And Ms Bridges, what time do you need to leave today? I really need to leave at three. At three. Okay. So we're going to be really efficient as efficient as we possibly can be. I'm going to start off by announcing free listening sessions that we have upcoming. These are not listening sessions that are public facing their listening sessions with groups in the community and I see Hala is joining us now. So that's excellent. Hi, Hala, can you hear us. That's a little dancing person. I see I hear you. Right. Okay, we'll give Hala a second to get where we're going to figure it we're going to just keep on doing it right. Let's see. We'll just mute Hala for now so that So we have three listening sessions that are coming up. The first is tomorrow. It's with the Poku students. And it's, and that is people of color united at the Amherst regional high school. That's at 345. And I'd like to just get a quick count from who's here to know who will be able to attend that session. I know Ms Bridges is definitely you're attending that one. Right. Yes, I, I'm definitely going to do I forgot that I had a doctor's appointment at 315. I'm going to see if they can move it. And if they can't, they're going to have to move it because I would really like to come. Okay, thank you. That's excellent. Okay, Dr Rhodes. I know you said you would be at that one. Is that still true? No, it's not true. There's, there's a 530 emergency meeting and I, I'm just going to be, I don't have to bandwidth. I wanted to do it, but there's no way to do it. Understandable. Yeah, there's a lot going on. No problem. How about you, Yvonne? Are you able to attend? No. Okay. And Hala, are you able to attend tomorrow and welcome? Can you hear us? I can. Okay. Oh, and we see you do. I'm just checking in to see who can attend the listening session with the Poku students tomorrow at 345. I'm just seeing if I'm working. I'm getting coverage at work. So it's 5050. All right, no problem. You can just come if you can. And, and I will, I'll send out the location. I think I've already sent it via text. And then the second listening session is happening at the Amherst survival center that's on Thursday from 1230 to 130. And that is with the survival center community. It will be happening during their community lunch period and we'll have an opportunity to share some information with the community as well as to be in listening mode. So, you know, just to move us through here, I'm not going to, I'll, I'll, you can respond via text if you plan to be at that session. The next session is last week. It was requested that I reach out to Ms. Pat, who is the chair of the business association of Amherst. And they have invited us to join them for a listening session on May 21 from two to 4pm. And I will send out details. One of the things that I was hoping to get a read on from the group here is whether folks, given that these aren't public, they're not going to be on zoom. They're really just for these particular communities. So how we want to sort of record, and I think that most importantly, we need to check with each of the groups when we get there to see how they would like for us to record whatever they might share with us. I just want that to be in the back of our mind to think about how we want to record the listening portions like in our previous sessions, they, they're available by video to the public. So if anyone has any thoughts on that, otherwise we can move, move on right now. All right. So, I'm going to call a period of public comment. This will be our first period of public comment. And then we're going to move into the rest of the agenda. So if you would like to make public comment, please go ahead and raise your hand. And I will read this quickly during the public comment period the chair will recognize members of the public when called on please identify yourself by stating your full name pronouns if you'd like and residential address. Residents are welcome to express their views for up to three minutes at the discretion of the chair based upon the number of people who wish to speak. The HRA will not engage in a dialogue or comment on a matter raised during the period but we will be listening carefully. So if you would like to make public comment, please go ahead and raise your hand. Okay, so not seeing any. I'm going to move quickly into the one of the items on our agenda today. I'm a member of the Amherstown Democratic Committee resolution in support of reparations. The executive committee of the Amherstown Democratic Committee has written a draft resolution in support of state and federal reparations. I met with Nick Brommel and Diana Stein both members of that committee last week and I sent out to you all their draft resolution. I had no chance to take a look at that yet today. It was just a couple hours ago that I sent it so no worries if. Okay, so we have Nick and Diana here and I'm going to bring them in. We are going to, and Diana and Nick I'm going to apologize in advance given our timeline today I'm going to ask that we move through this pretty quickly here. And what we can do is I know Dr. Shabazz wanted to provide feedback on this. He's not here yet. Others may want to as well. And then we can get that to you in writing. But I do want to welcome you and really thank you for your work on this. And thank you for being here. Can you hear us. You can just, oh, there's Nick. I'm in and there's Nick in. Yes, Nick is here too. Welcome to both of you it was really lovely to meet with you last week and great to see the resolution come through. I want to turn it over to you quickly if you wanted to say anything. I'd like to limit us to about five minutes here I apologize, but I will promise to provide any feedback in writing to you all in the next couple days, but I'll turn it over to you Diana and Nick. I'll start and they can interrupt me at any point. The resolution draws very heavily on the language from from something you wrote and also from the bill that is Senate 1053. I don't claim that it's original but what we tried to do was to give sort of a timeline and lead up to the fact that we would like to have a legislation move forward that would support what we're recommending which is reparations. And I, I think that's really it it's it's rather short. But I hope it'll do the message in a way that people will take the time to read it. So there it is. I think it's right now shared on your screen I think. Yeah, and so that's, that's all I have to say. I'll add one quick word thank you Diana, just to explain or perhaps refresh your memories about the process that we're in here. But first and foremost I just want to thank you all on the assembly for you know your leadership and Amherst on this issue and I think we feel that the Massachusetts State Democratic Party should be a leader in the National Democratic Party because we are a liberal left state and we think that Amherst is even more left and liberal and so we, we should be leading the State Party and the State Party should be leading the National Party in the direction we want to go in which is, you know, more progressive further left than it is. One, one element in among a number of other ones and every two years the State Party has an issues convention. They invite people from all over the state commit Democratic committees from all over the state to petition to have resolutions adopted and then those resolutions. Sometimes, often will work their way into the State Party platform and then become embedded as part of the State Democratic Party platform. So we want to get reparations as part of the State Democratic Party platform. And that's what this is all about and we had to pull it together rather quickly. So we'd really appreciate any feedback that you can give us with the caveat that we really are already behind. And it's not much. We can't really just go back to the drawing board on it so I'll stop there. That's a good summary. Yeah, that's excellent and just quickly Nick and Diana, when do you need. So I should announce that Diana has sent an invite to the assembly on at the Jones library and this was on I'm sorry I thought I wrote it down. I want to interrupt because what I originally sent you was last year's info. So the only thing I know for sure is that there will be a caucus of the Democratic people on June 10. And presumably from 11 to 12 according to the what I learned at the library. And we don't know yet, which we don't know yet the location for sure. But everyone is invited. If you're a Democrat, you can vote if you would like to join the party at that time, then you can vote. So it would help to have you to support this resolution. We'd be really happy to to include you in the Democratic town committee. Thank you very much Diana so what when we have more details about the location I'll send it out and then. So, ideally, are you still meeting on the 18th as planned. So what we'll do is make sure to get you any feedback that we have by prior to then so I'll I'll shoot first the 17th on Wednesday. That would be great. That would be fabulous. Sure. And if there are any questions from the assembly please. Yes, Dr. Rhodes yep. Diana Stein. Hi there. Great to see you. And the same here. We've been on things together. Yes, we have things you were both on the Charter Commission is that true. Yes. Wonderful. Okay. Well, if there aren't any other questions for Diana and Nick, I'm going to, of course, feel free to stay I'm going to return you to the to the audience. But otherwise, we'll get you some feedback in the next couple days. That would be great. Thank you very much. Thank you. Have a great day. Have a wonderful afternoon. Bye. Take a second here. Wonderful. Okay. All right. Another just quick announcement I wanted to share the Amherst Cultural Council voted unanimously to extend our amended grant application. We actually said that we could use the funds for either of the two options that we discussed. One of them was to transcribe some of our, our meetings. And then the other one was to meet with the group that Pamela had suggested we meet with who does document documentation through storytelling and, and to meet with them and see how they might be able to work with us. To document our work here as an assembly. So I'm planting that seed right now and then our next meeting, given our timeline, we will make a decision one way or another about how we'd like to move forward with that. All right, great. So, on the agenda, you'll see that based on our conversation last week, we identified three deliberations essentially that we need to have that may include or probably will include motions and voting. Those items I'm just going to share for folks share my screen here and share the agenda. So the first is ongoing funding streams, and these are all directly from our charge. So we have a $2 million commitment from the town of Amherst that's based on the cannabis tax revenue that is received annually. And we discussed last week that this number is declining. So it's been sort of steady around 200,000 and so we've now had to transfers from certified free cash in that range. But the concern is if the cannabis tax revenue declines, it will take us a lot longer to get to that $2 million mark. So one of the recommendations that we are charged with making is to identify ongoing funding streams. And my suggestion is that we expand beyond that to also make a recommendation on how to deal with the declining cannabis tax revenue. The second is for us to deliberate on an allocation plan that includes eligibility criteria. And the third is to deliberate on additional means of repair, truth and reconciliation. So we're given, we don't have Dr. Shabazz and we do not have Alexis today. I think that I'm introducing these three deliberative topics that we need to get to for us to begin thinking about. And we'll need to at our next meeting. And in the meantime, as bridges and others who maybe have missed a meeting, I can sort of fill in some of the missing pieces. So what I would like to do with the time that we have here is to share with you. The information that we received today actually from Kerry and Ellen at the Donahue Institute. They have provided all of the, the qualitative and quantitative data to us from the survey, which closed about a week ago. And so we have some decisions that we need to make based on that. So let me just stop my share here. I'm just checking in to see if Dr. Shabazz is, if you, if you all think to check in on the attendees every now and then to in case he comes in that way and just let me know. If you see anyone, if you see Dr. Shabazz in particular. So let me go ahead and pull this information up. Are there any questions while I'm doing this about the three deliberation topics that are that we've been charged with in terms of in terms of how we're moving forward with the process of deliberating on those. Dr. Rhodes. Okay, all right. All right, let me just pull this up here. I'm going to share what Harry has asked. So she says attached to the tables for the HRA survey in an Excel file, each tab corresponds to a question or group of related questions, we include the frequencies and shares of responses. And then she says I made a note when a question or questions was only visible to a subgroup of survey respondents. The total change from question to question. And then the next step here is to dive deeper for them to dive deeper in their analysis by looking at the responses by characteristics for example support for reparations by say race or age. And she says we're happy to do the subgroup analysis based on feedback from the AHRA. We will also make visualization charts and figures for the AHRA depending on what you'd like to highlight. And what we're, what we're tasked with doing is thinking about any subgroups we would like to have analyzed, as well as which visualizations we would like for them to include in their final report. So I'm going to pull this up with that said and we can just review this. Everyone see my screen. Excellent. And I will send this over to everybody, particularly to Pamela and Jennifer to include how we however this might be included in the packet, although you know this is data that we're going to be synthesizing with in the frame or in our final report so depending on how we, how we decide to go about that so I'm going to start here. And we'll move through these just so you can get a sense of what, how, how these look and what the, what the data reported. There we go. This was a question about, do you currently live in Amherst and so most people, 88% live in Amherst and Amherst is their primary residence. And then we also had some part timers as well. The question about, if you've ever lived in Amherst also 70, 70% here. And if you've lived here part time, about 30%. So here we see the amount of respondents that identified as black so we ended up with a total of 99 respondents who identified as black. We talked a little bit about this last week, I think this is 18.4% of the total, which does exceed the black population in Amherst. This was a number that we really worked hard to we tried to reach as many folks as we could through a variety of channels. And this is what the outcome, I think that the Donahue Institute felt in terms of survey terms of how surveys go that this was a good that this was this was respectable. And then we have here. Do you identify as a descendant of people enslaved in the US and 78.4 responded that yes, they did. 61.6 said no. And then coming over here. This is an interesting figure to look at so 61.8 of the respondents said they supported the town's decision to establish a dedicated reparations fund. And the rest of the percentage did not. And interestingly, 18.1% said they did not know or did not have enough information to make a decision on that. Anybody feel free to stop me at any time I am moving through these quickly so we can have an open discussion. Okay, so this was the question that if you've ever personally experienced discrimination or been treated unfairly because of your race or ethnicity. 30% said regularly 40 close to 49% said yes from time to time. And then you can see the rest no 19.3 and 2.3 preferred not to say. No question about the systems. And this question went only to respondents who identified as black. And you can look at this is really interesting actually to look at and see where folks felt, you know, major or minor changes were needed and in some cases where there wasn't much change needed. Yes, in terms of that, the 99 people identified as black. Yeah, was there a further breakdown in relationship to how many of that not those 99 were residents of Amherst full time etc. And that is exactly what Kerry would like us to decide which subgroups to pull out so that's that's a perfect example where we might look at at something like that and that's what we really have to be able to provide and I was hoping Dr Rhodes I know that given everything that's going on in the community right now and your role on the, the school committee it's a very busy time but I was hoping that we could get together and provide that feedback. By the end of the week to Kerry and Aaron, in terms of what subgroups we want them to look at. We can we can set a time offline to set up a time to do that because you know you're right my time is pressed but yeah, we can. Excellent. Okay, perfect. And the people hood question. This I be again very interesting have you ever personally experienced harms associated with people hood. If you remember we did provide some idea about what people hood means. And so 56.4% said yes here 32.7 no and I'm not surprised on the 10 to 10.9. You know, maybe don't know they maybe, you know that was I thought this was an interesting question to include. Okay, and then sorry something's happening with my. So I think this is our eligibility. Sorry, something seems to be cut off of my. So eligibility descendants have enslaved individuals in the United States here 3032 or 43.2% said yes 45.9 said no. I think that's a point eight said, don't know. And would someone mind just checking the attendees for Dr. Shabazz, because I unfortunately can't see when I'm sharing my screen. He isn't there. Oh, yeah, he's watching. Let me stop this so that I can bring him in. And there we go. Alright. So we'll apologize to Dr. Shabazz. Hi Dr. Shabazz welcome. He may not be in a position to speak right now but we'll, we'll wait for him to get settled here and we'll continue. Great. So this was a question that was for folks who do who did not identify as black that asked whether they've ever experienced or excuse me whether they've witnessed anti black discrimination towards someone because of their race or ethnicity. 43.4 of the respondents said yes and 56.6% said no. And again, you know, all of this is tells a story. It's really very interesting when you, you know, once we sort of process and digest this information a little bit more. And like I said, you'll all have this as soon as we finish with the meeting so you can take some time on your own to digest it. I will also send you a PDF with all of the narrative responses. Alright. So this is the response regarding the truth and reconciliation. So the highest percentage here the highest percentages were around creation of home ownership and real estate investment opportunities. The statewide concrete support for black students and teachers also rated very high the creation of a permanent historic cultural site for preservation and actualization. Let's see here. A program to teach black legacy so they all were pretty high here. And then types of repair. And everybody who responded regardless of identity and answered these questions and so this is an example where it, it's possible we may want to look at how respond to identified as black. And then there's questions versus respondents who did not. And that's a subgroup that the Donnie Hewinson could have analyzed for us based on the demographic questions they could pull that information. So that was, this is again really interesting. And then here we have the questions about, you know, how long has your family lived in Amherst. How long have you lived in Amherst. What best describes your housing situation. Whether. So here we had 7.1% of those who responded were college students. Race and ethnicity age. Can you go back to the race and ethnicity. Got it. Yeah. The person is that black or African American percentage the same as the people who identified as black. There was I think a little different differentiation all along. And Kerry and I had some discussions about that but I think it ends it up being. So, yeah, like we said so there were 99 who identified who responded and identified as black 71 here. So, you know, a big discrepancy. Yeah, that's it. That's it's 2028 people right. So there's some something to dig into there for sure. And Kerry and I have already put that on our radar to look at it reflects also in some of the questions where they ask about whether you've just experienced discrimination because of your race. There seem to be a discrepancy with the numbers on that one as well. I'm just saying that I know I noticed like things fluctuating as you scroll as you scroll through. Yeah, I'm going to write that one down too. Ms. Bridges were you about to say some things. I'm sorry. Are you going to send these to us so I can take a better look at these numbers. Absolutely as soon as we finish our meeting I will send you this and the narrative. Absolutely. Yeah, we need to digest in time. The highest percentage of people are between the ages of 65 and 74. Almost 24% of respondents. Yeah, and Kerry actually said that that is very typical for survey. I was surprised by that too. And she said that that that was typical. Which again really, you know, these listening sessions that we're holding over the next few weeks with these various groups like Hoku and others. It's so important because this is only really one. Method of consulting with the community and you can see where the limitations are. Yes, Ms. Bridges. Ages, 45 to 54, 65 to 65. What do I mean, the 75 and older and the 50, 45 to 54, pretty dead close. I was surprised at that. But in my group, yeah, that's the highest. Combining those two groups, it means that's 40% of your respondents. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I was concerned about my survey because it was sent to me twice and I put it in twice so I'm very concerned I hope it went in. Um, you could, we could. If you remember if you did you add any narrative data because Kerry could probably if you typed in any answers and didn't just answer the question she could probably make sure for you. Okay, I just want to make sure there was a couple of people that had called me and said the same thing with them it was sent to them twice and they put it in twice so. Yeah, I could mess up some numbers. Yeah, and twice. Yeah, one of the things that Kerry said is there was going to be. Yeah, like people who didn't complete it. People where it may have been duplicated so I don't know I think this is already taken into account things like that but it's a good question to ask yeah. Always things like that happen. Absolutely. Always. There was another. There were questions about the what I thought the answer to the question about whether a successor group. Did anyone see that as I was going through here. Okay, let me see what's, let me see if I can find it. Here we go. All right, let me know that's not. Let me stop the share real quick and just see if I can look at it. Here we. Okay. I know I saw it. It was a lower number than I had hoped responded yes to that. And so I wanted to share that but for some reason I'm not seeing it now. I'll try to find it. I don't want to hold us up here. So, so yes, I'm going to Dr. Shabazz welcome. Good to see you. So I'm going to get that this information off to you what would be wonderful is if you can take some time to read through it. I don't know if you have any questions that you have and just send them directly to me and Pamela and Jennifer. And then Dr. Rhodes and I are going to meet prior to meeting again with the Donahue Institute. We really what I want to open the discussion to now is what subgroups as Kerry referred to, we may want to pull out to look at. An example with the types of repair. Do we want to know the differences in terms of if you if the folks who identified as black. What types of repair they want to see versus the people who did not identify as black. That's an example. And there are, of course, other examples. So, I'm going to open it up now. The first question was which visualizations, we would like to see in their final analysis so we're going to have all of this data but they can visualize the pieces that we feel are most, you know, most important to have visualized. The doors open for comments questions. And again this might be something we need a little time to sit with before we can do that, which is totally understandable. And just kind of looking ahead. So, right now we are scheduled to meet next week on the 22nd. We could meet on Monday the 29th because it's Memorial Day so I was hoping that we could schedule another meeting that week I think missing a week right now could really impact us, given our timeline here so I will send out a doodle for that or ask Jennifer to send something out for that so that we can organize another meeting for that week. So, let me just take a quick peek here. Dr Shabazz before you came we reviewed the three items on the agenda that come from our charge that we've identified as discussions or deliberations that we need to have, including the ongoing funding streams the allocation plan including eligibility, and then the means of repair and truth and reconciliation so we've planted that seed today and we'll take one or two of those up at our meeting next week. But I would say relative to the survey. And to make things simple, you don't have to compare it to the non, because we have all of what you've just done from the overall average of which the 15% or whatever of African Americans are in. So what we just need is the breakout of what those who identify as African American black registered on all of the, all of the same things and then we can, we can make the comparisons if we want to what the general result of the survey was versus African Americans in particular. That's what my recommendation would be. Okay, just to say back what I think I'm hearing. You're saying that for the questions where, regardless of identity, all folks responded to the question, we should just simply break out the folks who identified as black from those questions is that to hear that. Okay. And then we decide. Okay. All right. And again, Dr. Rhodes and I will kind of put together a roadmap for that that we based on this discussion and any other input that we get. I don't know if you all have thoughts right now on the visual piece but again you can just send those along once you've had a chance to really take a look at this. I also want to speak with Matia about the narrative responses and how we would like those, those are very, very interesting. And I think we'll want to include those in our report as well. And all right, so kind of along that line. The listening sessions that we have with Poku the survival center and the black business association of Amherst. By the way I'm also meeting with the director of the bid and the director of the chamber this week to talk to both of them about again our charge. Elicit some engagement from those groups and so I based on our discussion last week. I've reached out to them as well. But for these three listening sessions. I would like to know. And based on what we hear from the groups themselves and how they would like their responses to be recorded, given this will not be videoed, this will not be, you know, we won't be a public meeting. How do you all think would be the best way, like seeking permission to do an audio recording for example at the beginning might be something and then asking them how they would like their responses to be incorporated in our recommendations. So the floor is open for that question. And Dr. Shabazz, do you are you do you know if you're able to make it tomorrow to the Poku listening session at the high school at 345. I'm going to try. Okay. Okay, and then the survival centers at 1230 on Thursday. So we're just we're going to do our best here. I'm going to make sure that we can audio record these if we have permission so that members who were not able to attend will be able to listen as well as for Metia to be able to have any pertinent information that we would want to include in our recommendations. Yes, Ms. Bridges. I think the black business. That definitely should be recorded. Everywhere they say. I think that should be recorded. Asking permission of course but I think it should be recorded. Yeah. I think it should be to ask each of these groups for permission right in the beginning to record the audio and then to further define how the groups would feel comfortable having the information reported on in our recommendations. It's safe at all. You know, listening has been interesting. It's interesting because it's sort of our job to try to really take in all of this information and then, you know, synthesize it into recommendations. And so, you know, I think if we can get audios that's going to be really helpful for us to be able to do that. Suggest. I was, I was going to say it's for all three. More helpful for us. If it's recorded and anything we have to recommend or whatever we can go back. Exactly. Because it's always hard if you're like, well, what did that one say or what did the I mean, it's, it's, I think it's better for us. If we have this. Yeah. When you're listening, you really want to be present, but you're not, you know, necessarily digesting every piece of information. So absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, okay. By the way, yeah, I had one point. I agreed to show up at the Amherst Black Amherst Business Association. And that meeting I will be there. It's on another matter, but it was something that I had postponed before and they said, well come the next time and this is the next time. Oh, good. And the other thing is that if other people on this committee are going to show up we need to make sure that we do not have a quorum or folks there. I think actually, that's a great point. But I think we're okay to be there and I will verify this with our town clerk with our clerk of the council. I think we're okay to be there as long as we are in listening mode and we are not making any decisions we're not discussing any matters. We're really just there to hold space and listen. So, but I will verify that because quite honestly, I think for these groups. I mean, I think that coming tomorrow to meet with the Poku group is going to be, I mean, given everything, you know, that's happening in our community and how active these students seem to be I think it's going to be a really learning opportunity for us. And so as many of us who can be there as possible. And if anybody feels like they can't be there in person but would like to try to zoom in, we might be able to make that work. If you just give me a heads up like Yvonne if you're out of town and you wanted to but again we will try to get the audios so that we can listen. I know that folks need to leave at three o'clock and I want to honor your time. I want to call a second or second period of public comment and ask. Please folks if you'd like to make public comment go ahead and use the raise hand function. I'm not going to read the statement again because I think everyone that was here when I read it last time is still here. So I am going to move here in first. I think I have to leave early. Okay, Yvonne. No, do whatever you need to do. Yeah, no problem. I'm sorry, I'll be here next week. Okay, we'll see you then. Thank you. Welcome. Good afternoon. I have a couple of a couple of comments slash questions. I was, I really appreciated, you know, seeing all the data breakdown. That's, you know, it's really helpful to see. I want to advise or ask that you would retreat. You would retrieve the, the data for the forms of reparations from black Americans or those who identified as descendants of enslaved people, as well as the length of family residents I think that might be a useful data point in terms of identifying some of the historical factors around the black population in Amherst. That would be really helpful to your process. I also want to know if or when that data will be made public, like as a reporter and thing like that. And then also I would like to know just for the sake of public information has the town of Amherst or the HRA contracted with first repair as a consultant for this process or what is that the intention. And what is the process for set that sort of thing would it be like a vote that you all take and that's something that you just that you will decide on the back the back end and then, you know, that's just that's just to do it all the background or what's the process for that I'm just really curious about that. And that's, that's all my public comment. Thank you. Thank you Kyara and I'm going to try to just quickly answer just a couple of your questions here. In terms of the data. I am not sure whether the raw data will be available as part of the public packet necessarily but it will be included in our final report which is due to the town council at the end of June. And then in terms of first repair, I assume that you're talking about former Alder woman Robin or Simmons organization first repair, am I right in that. That's right. Okay. We've had no discussions that I am aware of regarding contracting with first repair either now or in the future. Now that may. I don't, I have no sense around that I don't know if anyone else wants to put, put any, any information forward about that but there have not been any discussions of that, of that kind. Thank you. Absolutely. Thank you. Thank you for being here Kyara and I'm going to move you back and then I'm going to bring Lauren in. All right. All right. Oh, sorry, Lauren, just one second. I think you're coming over. Oh, there you are. Welcome Lauren. Thank you for having me. I wanted to just say some brief comments. One, I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed the ability to duplicate the survey. I wasn't sure if, if I should share that or what time to share that but I just was curious if you could take the survey, more than one so I myself with the survey twice. And so, I don't know how that affects the numbers, but the amount of people who actually took the survey was surprising to me and so I just that kind of my curiosity is if you, if you are able to take the survey more than once and the other thing I wanted to ask is is it I'm sorry Lauren I'm going to stop you because I, we, I at least can't hear you at all. And I want to make sure you can be heard. Okay. Can you hear me better now. Yes, that's great. That's better. Yep. I tried the video thing but okay. The other thing I just wanted to ask is if you have a question about the community meetings on the town website, because I was not able to get the link. I think there was a meeting this weekend, or last weekend and I just want to know if that was a possibility. Also, I guess, from your discussions with recording listening sessions that are more for, you know, private groups. I would just suggest that with certain groups, there are ways to record but not necessarily have their personal thoughts recorded like they could be written down or I just think it should be a possibility to share personal thoughts without audio recording because I think, again, you have to take into account that some people might not be comfortable with recording their personal opinions and thoughts. Thank you. Thank you so much Lauren. And I want to try to answer a couple of your questions. Dr. Shabazz or Hala. Lauren is suggesting I believe that the BAM meetings be posted maybe on our Engage Amherst page or on the town through the town's community calendar and I think that's been suggested previously. And I'm not sure if Jennifer was able to do that for the last one. Is there an upcoming meeting this Saturday or was it last Saturday? There is one on this Saturday and I can post it on the community thing. Perfect. Okay, that would be really great. Thank you, Hala. That would be excellent. And so this Saturday's meeting just since Lauren is here, what time is that meeting? 130. Okay, perfect. Well, we're going to be sending out a link we were just trying to wait on the 1994 report to send as well as something else which I haven't gotten so I might just have to send out the link without the necessary time with the reader at the time. Okay. Yeah, it happens. Sorry, school is getting out so it's loud over here. Yeah, no worries. Okay, and then the other question. Okay, Lauren, I'm going to move you back. Thank you so much for your comments. And I am just I think that Ms. Bridges has to leave if she hasn't already. And so I do just want to quickly for the folks who are still here. Revisit this question about recording of these listening sessions. And this might be something that I would maybe I'm not sure who else to sort of check in with about this, but I want to make sure we, we do these listening sessions with integrity and with respect to the people that are giving us, you know, the privilege of hearing what their experiences are. So, if you don't have right now anything that's fine but please just follow up with me before tomorrow's listening session. And I would definitely advocate not to record the youth because they're protected status in my mind differently. We could share what they want to share but in terms of voice recognition and I just feel very protective of the you that's just my gut right away. Yeah, that resonates with me too. And maybe we, you know, in some ways I think consistency is the best formula because sometimes it's important to make different decisions for different people in groups but I find that if we're consistent and we have a good reason that it comes with integrity that we can apply that everywhere and So my preference, my preference would be actually to have somebody there like Mattia to just transcribe the without an audio recording. And then of course to work with the groups to make sure that we're clear on what they would like to have shared or not shared in the report. And if that if that feels okay to the group, then maybe we'll just go ahead forward with that process. Any objection to that. Okay. All right, wonderful. So we'll be meeting next week on the 22nd, I'll be sending a doodle pullout for the week of the 29th since we can't meet on Memorial Day. And Dr Rhodes and I will be meeting about the survey will take your feedback and provide that to the Dunahue Institute. And I think it's important that we are prepared next week to deliberate on ongoing funding streams again to include any additional funding streams as well as any recommendations we want to make about the cannabis tax revenue potential changes in the future. And then possibly to deliberate then on the additional means of repair truth and reconciliation I think that the allocation plan and eligibility criteria is going to take us a full of really a full session on its own. And so I'd like to sort of get us into a framework to be ready for that. And be there on as best we can. So are there any other questions or comments right now, or announcements or. All right, I know there's some upcoming. There are some upcoming like race amity day Juneteenth will be approaching there are some upcoming announcements that next week when Jennifer is back I'm sure she'll be able to make. So I wish you all a wonderful week and with that I'm going to adjourn the meeting at 306 p.m. Thank you so much.