 So I might have to do just the recording of the first session yesterday. Hey, morning, Jack-in. Morning, everyone. Okay, so let's get started. Just want to read from 1 Corinthians chapter 2. But before that, I just wanted to say that just because we are in Bible college second year or going to third year, that does not mean that, like we were talking today, that we have a full picture or we have, okay, this is what God wants me to do, kind of revelation or understanding. That does not mean that you need to have, or it's already there. Some of us might have received, okay, very clear. This is what God wants me to do. I'm very clear. I'm very focused. I'm going after it. But there could be someone saying that I'm in the second year. I'm going to be in the third year. And even now, people ask me, okay, after Bible college, what? And I'm not sure. So, I just wanted to share this scripture, 1 Corinthians chapter 2 and verse 9. But as it is written, I has not seen nor ear heard nor have entered into the heart of man the things which God has prepared for those who love Him. Okay, so it talks about natural or physical senses. I, you know, not seeing, ear not heard. And it also talks about, you know, nor have entered into the heart of man, right? The spirit of man, what God has prepared. But, you know, that's not the end of the story. The next verse, verse 10, it says, but God has revealed them to us through His spirit for the spirit searches all things, the deep things of God. Okay, so God has a plan. We know God has a purpose for each one of us. And it's unique. We don't need to compare. It's something unique and He has fashioned us uniquely. So, God has a plan. God has a purpose, right? So, this scripture talks about how the Holy Spirit reveals them to us. So, even though, you know, it is not, it's not physically seen, even though we've not heard about it, even though it is not entered into our heart yet, right? But God will reveal. God has revealed them to us. How does He do it? Do it by the Holy Spirit, right? Either a quickened word or a sovereign, you know, manner. But God will reveal this. And the revelation, of course, can be a dramatic encounter, but can be a gradual, progressive revelation, right? Understanding or knowing that, okay, this is what I'm supposed to be doing. But the thing is this, to pursue Him, to seek Him, to be faithful in what, in the present, you know, whatever He is, in responsibility that He's entrusted to be faithful and to be willing and to serve Him in all those things. And we will see that there is a knowing, there is an increased progressive, gradual knowing about what we are supposed to be doing, right? So, we don't have to be worried or anxious, saying, okay, you know, I've not yet got it, I thought it could happen, right? But it's a walk with God. So, you know, it's a journey with the Lord, right? So, I just want to share that. So, one confidence two versus nine and ten, okay? Let's pray. Father, we just want to thank you, Lord, for this day. We thank you that not even though our eyes may not have seen, even though our ears may not have heard, Lord, Lord, we may not have even perceived in our hearts, God, the things that you prepared for us, but Lord, your intention is that you would reveal these to us, Lord, and your desire is that you would reveal all of these to us through your spirit, Lord, in our hearts, God. And so, we want to position ourselves, Lord. We want to place ourselves in that, Lord, in that manner to receive from you, God. We want to place ourselves in that manner, Lord, to be hungry for you, for your word, for the works of your spirit, Lord. And we want to be sensitive, Lord, to the leading of your Holy Spirit, Master. And I just pray for those who are not in that place yet, saying, you know, I don't know, things are not clear yet, Lord. I just pray especially for those, those of us who are in that place. I pray, Lord, that let there be a progressive, increasing, Lord, an understanding and a sense of knowing of what you've called us for, Master. And I just pray that there will be much joy, because your word says that, Lord, that you will lead us into a discovery, to discover the good works that you have already prepared beforehand for us, Lord, to discover it and to carry them out, Lord, joyfully. We thank you, Lord. We commit ourselves into your mighty hands. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay, so the other words that we can look at is, you know, Ephesians 2 and Ephesians 2-10, for it says, we are His workmanship created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. So the reason He prepared is that we should walk in them. So He's already prepared that in Christ Jesus. Okay. Okay, I'm just sharing the notes. And we are in page eight, defining vision. Okay. So I think this morning, during the mentoring hour, we looked at that whole cycle of, you know, vision to implementation, vision to execution. Right. So a vision, it simply put, it is a description, a vision statement, if you want to say, it is a description or a statement which describes who we want to be, who we will be. It could be a church, ministry, it could even be a, you know, could have a vision as a person. You know, this is who I would, I want to be. Right. So that is simply put, that's a vision. So when we look at a vision statement, it shares the purpose, the purpose for which we are doing what we're doing. Okay. Why are we here? Right. This is the purpose. It also shares about, you know, it has its focus on the future. It's not about today. It's not about the here and now, but it's about the future. You know, this is who we want to be is not right now, but this is, you know, it's going to take time. It's in the future. And it is also a call to action, which means that it reminds us, okay, this is who we want to be. So we better start moving in that direction. Right. So call to action. Okay. So when we look at the vision statement or vision, which has this purpose and future in mind and call to action, now we can consider three important questions. Okay. Three questions. You want to rest or something? You want to rest? Uncomfortable? Or have some hot water? Yeah, I think. Okay. So the three important questions like, okay, what do we want to do? Okay, now that's going to describe our vision. Okay. Like for example, if you take the vision of, like what we looked at, you know, our vision of all people's charge, the ministry of all people's charge, let's just take that. I want to put it on the chat. Okay. So that's the vision. So if you consider the question, what, okay, so it describes the vision and it also, what is it that we want to do? Okay. So it says that the vision is to be salt and light, to be a voice and so on. Right. To be a voice to the nation. It's to be the nations and so on. And another question that we can consider is why? So why do we want to do this? That describes our mission statement. Okay. So is there a difference between a vision and a mission? Yes. So vision talks about, okay, where or who we want to be or how we want to go or what we want to become. But the mission statement, if we have one, we'll talk about what we want to do. Okay. So it talks about salt and light in the city of Bangalore, voice to the nation and to the nations. You know, so a mission statement would be, okay, we want to equip believers. Right. We want to reach out to people. We want to equip believers in the word and the spirit. We want to raise up maybe people have gone who can be influencers and so on. You know, it can, it can be something like that. Or it could also be a little more focused. It could talk about, okay, we want to plant churches, plant so many churches in the city and plant so many churches in the nation. Excuse me. And also, you know, okay, maybe, you know, I have this Bible college and, you know, equipping people in the word and the spirit so that they can further go. And so it can be, you know, things like that. Why do we want to do it? Okay. And, and how the question how would be very specific. It would describe the goals, you know, goals are short term, it could be long term, but it's very specific objectives. Now, these are the activities. These are the steps that we are going to take in order to reach that vision, in order to reach that or fulfill that vision. Right. Okay. So, so we know that vision is a, is a big picture. And it's good that we, you know, think about this, consider this. And also, you know, if the Lord leads you or any of us to maybe plant a church, start something, it's good to have that big picture. You know, why am I doing this? Right? God put this in my heart. But, you know, to just make sense of it and say, why am I doing this? And of course, the Lord will add to it and further expand the scope of the vision, maybe, but it's good for us, for us to think and maybe even write down and say, okay, this is the vision that God has given. Okay. So let's look at some characteristics where we talk about the vision. Okay. And all the attributes of a vision, what it will accomplish. It's very important, right? So a clear vision from God provides direction and guidance. Okay. So it gives direction, which means that when we say direction, it's not Southeast West, right? It points to a certain place. It points to a certain objective. Okay. It is providing direction. Okay. So I'm sure that if, you know, if you want to go from here to any place, you can think of, you know, let's say you want to go from here to Nandi Hills, right? So you will look for direction. Okay. Now it's become so easy. We just put in the name, punch and then type in in the Google Maps and then you click on directions and it'll give you, okay, this is the route. Okay. So a vision is like that. It gives us direction. Okay. So without direction, it's very difficult to reach an objective or reach a place. Right. So vision provides a direction and a clear vision from God's gives us the direction and not only the direction, but also the guidance. Okay. So which means that we will not deviate. Right. So suppose I need to go right and I go left. Right. So it's going to result in loss of time. I'm not going to end up, you know, suppose I, you know, in 30 minutes, the map says in 30 minutes, I will reach. If I take a left and go, the map says, right, I take a left. I'm not going to reach that place in 30 minutes. It might take me more than 30 minutes, more than maybe hour maybe, because there are, I've taken a wrong direction. So the thing is that a vision gives us guidance so that there is no deviation, there is no delay. Right. There's no unnecessary trouble. Have you, and you're following the Google map, have you taken a wrong turn? Right. So, yeah, many times, you know, because we, thank God, now they put that white, you know, that arrow when you want to turn. Initially it was not there. So you think, okay, maybe it's the next road, but you, after you cross, you realize, oh, and you can't come back. It's maybe a one way or whatever. And it's just reroutes you. And then you realize that it's going to take a while. Right. It's going to take me further away. It's going to take me, there's going to be some delay. It's a very frustrating experience. Right. But when there is vision, when there is a clear vision, clarity, there's clarity of purpose and everything, but also, you know, direction and guidance. So, problem 2918 talks about that where there is no revelation, the people cast off the restraint. But happy you see who keeps the law. So if there is no revelation, meaning there is no clear sense of purpose, there's no clear sense of direction, then what happens is the action that follows is also not clear. Right. The action that follows is also not clear because you're in two minds. Am I doing the right thing or am I not? Right. So whatever, you know, decisions we're making, that is also not clear. And, and therefore, you know, over a period of time, we realize that, you know, we're not going anywhere. Right. We're not reaching any place. So a clear vision from God is so, so precious. And this verse talks about that if there is no revelation, the people cast off restraint, in the sense that people are not guided, people cast off any kind of restraint, you know, vision in a way is restraining. Right. In a, in a restraint, what does restraint mean? It holds you back. Right. It holds you back from wrong decisions. It holds you back from just doing anything and everything that you want to do. It restrains you. It gives you a sense of focus so that our resources, our time, our energy is used in the right way. Right. So, so that's what this verse says that people cast off restraint, but happy is he who keeps the law. Okay. The second one is that a clear vision brings light. Okay. Matthew 6, 22, 23, the Lord says, the lamp of the body is the eye. If therefore, your eye is good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eye is bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If therefore, the light that is in you is darkness, how great is that darkness? Okay. Now, of course, it's not just talking about the physical eye here, but, you know, I just want to talk about the physical eye. If the physical eye is, is clear, then we are able to, there is, you know, there is clarity. Right. And I don't remember the first time I wore the glass. Right. I thought I was seeing everything, you know, perfectly well. And I was sitting at the back of the classroom and in school and in college, actually. And I thought it was clear. And then I started wearing the glass and suddenly, oh, wow, the leaves are all well formed, you know, on the trees. I thought it was one, one mass of green, but now I can see specific detail, you know, right. You see it and then you realize, oh, there is clarity. So the thing is, there's a vision brings light. Okay. There is just like what a light does, you know, lights, and when you're in it eliminates, there's no darkness, there is clarity. You're able to see better because there is light. Right. So a vision does that, brings clarity. Okay. And, and so the law talks about that, right. Just like a physical eye enables light to enter and gives a clear vision. So, so also, when you have a vision statement, it brings clarity. You know, it brings clarity to maybe if it's a church that you're leading, it brings clarity to the church where everybody is clear. This is where we are heading. And this is why we are doing what we're doing. Okay. So if that clarity is there in every person, then there, there is a, you know, high chance of unity, right, one is of mind. So people are not pulling in different directions, you know, what people are not saying, okay, we need to be this, we need to be that, we need to be that also, we need to be doing this, right. But this vision defines and brings clarity, right. Okay. A vision is something that we need to state. It needs to be stated, meaning it needs to be, you know, maybe written down, maybe spoken out, it needs to be stated. So it should be clear, it should be concise, meaning it cannot be running into pages and pages, or then it needs to be, you know, in two or three sentences, you should be able to actually capture, okay, this is what the vision is, right. And it's also, you know, because we as human beings, we, we, you know, we are creative and we, we are visual beings, right. So we think and then we think in terms of pictures and so on. So it will all immediately create a picture in our minds, right. So this is what we see in Habakkuk chapter two and verse two, the Lord answered and said, write the vision, make it plain on tablets, that he may run who reads it, okay. So which means that one who reads that vision, he's moved to action, right, that he may run who reads it. Another version talks about the Lord told me, I will give you my message in the form of a vision, write it clearly enough to be read at a glance, okay. So to stating that vision, so it's a very, it's a difficult thing, right, when you're writing down maybe for your ministry, or maybe God has called you to do something and to, to write in two or three sentences, what is that? What is that big thing? Or what are all those things that God has called you to do, right, to write it down, it's, it's a, it's a task, right, it's a difficult task but, but that's something that you can do, okay. So, so why don't you take some time, maybe a minute, to write down what is the vision of my life? I know it needs a lot of time, right, but you know, what is my life or why am I here, right. So now, you know, now you're a believer you're, you're, you know, you've been kind of hearing the voice of God and learning the word of God, so why don't you write down, you know, what is my vision in life, okay. Just maybe a couple of sentences, yeah. Let's, let's try an attempt to do that, okay. You write it down first. God only knows the end from the beginning, right, so I don't know, write it, okay. Time starts now. Those who are in online class also, you know, just try and write down, capture in a sentence or a couple of sentences, what is it, what is the vision of my life? Sorry, you're putting yourself as a, you know, as a third person, the vision of so and so is, you put your name there, the vision of friends is to do or to be or things like that, okay. So, any brave ones in the class, so you can, you can just share what you started writing and then, you know, I'm sure it, you know, I don't think it'll be complete in, in a few minutes, but if you have, I mean, that's great. Like for example, I, this is what I wrote, okay, I wrote that vision of Jake Murai's eyes is to draw people to an encounter with Jesus through worship and to ground them in the word and the works of the spirit, okay. So now I know that's, that's just one aspect of me, you know, it doesn't talk anything about me as a father, as a husband and, you know, it doesn't cover anything or even the, you know, the call of God, whatever. But I just felt this, so I just wrote that down. So anyone else you want to share? Yeah, okay, go ahead. You use the mic. Yeah, I wrote here, my vision is to become a pastor and to serve the God and to people and to save the souls, those who don't know Jesus Christ. I want to bring those in his kingdom. Very good. Vision of my life is to be away for the prodigal sons to come back home, to raise a generation who will be like Jesus, who will obey and fulfill God's calling over their lives. Okay, awesome. Francis, in the mic here, I just, what do you want to become? Okay, what did you write? What did you start off with? My vision is I want to become a... Oh, that's where it is. It's about becoming, okay. Okay. Nina? I written like, I want to worship the Lord to know his word and to help others to grow in the law. Worship, know his word and to grow. Okay. Okay. Anyone online also, you can post it, you can just put it. Sri Radha, what is it? MP page. No, it's hidden. That's it. Okay. Okay. Anyone online, you would like to, would you like to share what you've written down? Anand, you want to share? Now, what have you written down? Okay, thinking about it. Okay. So, you see, it's good to, it's good to think, knowing that, see, these are the attributes of the vision. Okay, this is what a vision can do. Give clarity, give direction, so that our life is not, you know, we don't spend too much time in detours and wasting it. So, it's not just, you know, we writing it from the top of our heads, but we're just asking God, God, you, you know, you put things in my heart. And so, you know, it needn't be a very dramatic thing. You know, just like how we share the word, you know, prophetic word, our God speaks to us, the word of knowledge. It comes into our heart in a very simple way, in a very simple manner. And then we just capture it and you put it, right? And maybe we can spend time, you know, refining it to include, you know, all the, maybe we just thought of one thing, right? Maybe we're just thinking of, it's just one thing. How can we put it together, right? Like, for example, vision at all people's church can be like, okay, we want to have five churches, we want to, you know, reach people, etc. But when you say to be salt and light, right, it's, it goes beyond planting churches. Yes or no? Yeah, yeah. So, it means that it includes people who are not called to be church planters also. It includes people, it includes working professionals, it includes sports people, it includes politicians, it could, you know, it's an all-encompassing word to be, you know, then this is what Lord has called, so called us to be, to be influencers and people of impact, right, as a church. And we know that church is not just, you know, not just an organization, but it's the body, it's people. So we are in that vision, we are actually drawing and we're saying, okay, this is who you can be, like to be part of the vision. This is who we can be, you know, to be salt and light, influencers, people of impact, and so on, a voice to the nation. So when you think of a voice to the nation, what picture does that bring? I can think of a big political rally, you know, a lot of people and then, yeah, you know, there's some old-fashioned mic which is there and then, you know, somebody is addressing the nation, right, a voice to the nation. But so when you say a voice, you know, it's a voice that can bring truth. It's a voice that can, you know, kind of encourage people to action. It's a voice that can bring hope. It's a voice that can say, okay, you can change your destiny. You can change your destiny, you're heading, you know, it's heading towards a destiny of maybe destruction, but that can be changed, right? So it's a voice of truth, a voice of hope to the nation and to the nations, right? So it's not just this nation, but it's to the nation. So it's got a global thing. So it starts with the city, goes to the nation and goes to the nations, right, the entire world. So something like that, right? So our vision can be big, because God dreams big. So right now, we just wrote down, okay, I don't want to be so, but then it can be a global impact in kind of vision, right? For us personally also, right? Okay, Jack in says, my God given vision is to pray, encourage council, young women, whom God places in my life, in my life, family and ministry to come and live in the place where God wants each of us to be. Whatever God has taught me, I want to share with them and bless, yeah. Right. Thank you, Jack in. Yeah, that's, that's good. To pray, encourage council, right? Okay, so just work on it. Okay, just think about it, pray, work on it, and then you'll realize that, hey, this is what God has called me to do. No, it's there all along. It's been burning all along. I didn't give voice to it. I didn't put it in words. The minute you see it on paper, you see it on your screen, then it becomes a little more clearer. Okay, so today during the mentoring session, it is going to the fourth thing, just to communicate the vision, right? So we saw that, you know, in that whole cycle of vision to execution, we saw that, okay, there comes a time when we communicate or share that vision. Okay, now communication of that vision is important because for the people who are part of the vision, right, maybe you can, you're thinking of your family, you're thinking of your church, you're thinking of an organization, maybe or as a leader, the people whom you have influence over or whom God has given you or placed you to give oversight. Well, it could be a simple, you know, leading a Bible study, whatever, but that vision has to be communicated. What does that mean to communicate a vision? To share, right? Not just speak, to share, to communicate. It can be in various ways, written, verbal pictures, right? So vision needs to be communicated. So so which means that people who are part of the vision, first of all, should know the vision, okay? It's very important, know the vision because I need to be instructed. I need to know, you know, okay, this is what the vision is of this church, of this ministry, of this organization, of this team, right? For example, when somebody joins the like worship team, right? We audition, maybe audition them for skills, abilities, gifting, everything, and then we screen them for a testimony and call and so on. So somebody joins the worship team at the end of it. We share the vision, or even before they, you know, join, we share the vision. This is the vision of the worship ministry, okay? The vision of the worship ministry is to that we will encounter God's manifest presence in worship, that we will lead people, you know, to encounter the same. First of all, that we would personally encounter God's manifest present in the worship, that we would delight God's heart in worship. That's how it starts, that we would delight God's heart in worship, encountering His manifest presence, and to lead others in the same, establishing them in the same. So it's very clear. It's a three line, it's very clear. Okay, so everyone who joins the team, who's part of the team, we just make sure we communicate it over and over and over again, that they should know the vision, right? So this is what we are doing. So what happens is that, you know, when people know the vision, then they understand why we are doing this. Why are we gathering together? Why are we leading worship? Like for example, let's take this example of worship, you know, like some people can say, can have this understanding that, okay, I'm here to lead you in worship, okay? I'm part of the worship team. Worship team leads in worship, but I'm here to lead you in worship. That's the vision. Why am I here? I'm going to lead you. So I'm going to instruct you. I'm going to tell you how you need to do. I'm going to tell you to lift your hands. I'm going to lead you to sing louder. I'm going to tell you to open your mouth. I'm going to always be telling you, because I'm leading you in worship, okay? But if the vision, in the vision of the worship team, it is that you, you know, the vision of worship ministry is that we personally, individually would delight God's heart in worship. That's the first thing, that we would encounter His manifest presence. That's the second thing. The third thing is that then we would establish others in it, that we would lead others in it. So first of all, so the importance is on I, me, myself personally worshiping, encountering God in worship. That I'm a worshipper, first of all. I'm not here to just tell you, okay, what to do. That comes, that's an overflow of me worshipping. That's just an encouragement for others to, you know, just invite others to worship. So vision is very, you know, so it changes the very where the worship ministry is heading. It changes completely. It changes the heart of the people saying, okay, I need to encounter God. I need to pursue God. Forget about others, you know, I need to do this personally. So everyone in the church and ministry should know it. Okay, so it means we need to, as leaders, we need to communicate the vision, share the vision. Okay, so everyone knows the vision. Secondly, everyone owns the vision. What does that mean? Become a part of it. It's mine. See, it's no longer, you know, I'm not, no longer saying things like, okay, this is what that person said, you know, our worship pastor shared this, that this is the vision, our worship pastor shared that, no, no, this is the vision of our worship ministry. So everybody owns, it takes ownership of it. Right? It becomes theirs. Hey, this is, I'm part of this. And this is my vision too. Right? Owns the vision. Yeah, sorry. Yeah, I want to use the mic. When you're speaking about vision. So like, it's, we have to express and we have to explain. So it's, it's, it's, it's like personally our vision, right? Like why we are sharing, like why we are just asking as a congregation or a pastor or a team to follow that. So it means that it's to Anand's question is, okay, so if it's a personal vision, why do you want to share? Now that's a, that's a different thing. So if God has, you know, called you specifically to do certain things, then you don't have to, but then if God has called you to, let's say, you know, for a church planting kind of a ministry, then obviously there are others who are part of it. So whoever's part of it needs to know the vision. Who was with you saying, okay, I'm with you in this and pursuing God along with you so that, you know, to help or to, you know, I'm with you in this, I want to achieve. We want to reach the objective along with you. So when people do that, then it's important that we share the vision. So that's the thing. So it's a collective vision. It becomes applicable to the entire church, entire body. If, if, if we take pastor, if we take APC only before the pastoral team form and all, I mean, maybe you, you, you pastor, all other pastors would have leading in us in a different way or somewhere you, you are in other ministries or in some worship rooms. After you're coming here only. So how it will work, like we have to obey to our, I mean, senior pastor, after you came here, you got to know, like, so I have to agree for this or else, if, if you or some other associate pastor, if you have a separate calling, individual calling in between, that you got to realize that this is not my thing. So how it will actually work, like if we also have to lead in the future. So how we have to tell to our assistant pastor. Yeah. So if there is a differing vision, that's what you're saying, right? If there's individual calling, individual differing vision at some point in life, you know, it could be right in the beginning. Okay. So, so why are we drawn to a particular, you know, let's say, a vision, you know, because God has put the same desire in you, and you want to see the same thing happen, right? You, you get to know about the people who are pursuing God for a particular purpose. And then you also, you know, it resonates with you, you know, there is something you agree with it. And then that's why you want to do the same thing. And that's why you become part of the vision in whatever capacity, you know, maybe as a, as a person, as a believer, you know, as someone who wants to serve in a small way, as someone who, you know, God's raising you up to serve and contribute in a, in a bigger capacity, whatever. But that is what draws you. Which means that there's something in God has put in you, which is the same as what they are also pursuing. Okay. That is why you are drawn. So it's important that right in the beginning itself, that the vision is stated, Hey, this is the journey we are on. This is where we are going, you know, as a church. So if there's any difference, you know, I could be part, I could be part of it, but not maybe in, you know, a part of the leadership, not maybe in, you know, because I can be part of the, of the church or the body because, you know, I, you know, I, I like that vision and this is something that, but then maybe God has put something else in me, you know, to pursue. So I will attend church maybe, but then I will not go beyond that because I've got a certain other thing to pursue, God has called me. So all my time, energy, resources, I'm going to, I'm going to receive from here, you know, whatever God is speaking or sharing, you know, and so I'm going to be built up spiritually, et cetera, all that aspect I'm receiving. But then this is what God has called me to do and told me to be. And so I'm pursuing that. I may not necessarily be part of the leadership or, you know, part of the vision in that, in that sense. So that's, that's a, that's one scenario. Second scenario is, okay, I'm serving. I'm part of the vision. I'm serving and I'm, you know, doing everything faithfully. And then I, then I sense that at some point that God has put, you know, the desire and the, and the vision that God has put in me is God also adds, right? So it's taking me in a different direction. So much so that, okay, I'm not able to allot the time and energy and, and the resources that I used to. It's, it's a different season. And then God is calling me for something else. And that is growing, right? There's nothing wrong in communicating and sharing and saying, this is what is calling me to this. So, you know, to, to go with the blessing to be commissioned for that. And that has also happened. It's like everyone wanted to be a leader. Maybe if it is not in the starting, but in middle, everyone will learn and, and everyone will have this desire like I also wanted to be a leader. So it happened in our ministry also when my dad was doing also. So there were people who went away. So how, how we have to take that, because if when we are learning this Christian leadership, we have to know all these things, right? Like when, when, when it comes to APC also, how it works. Like last time also when Pastor Ravi went, like, sorry, when, uh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. How, how we have to see, yeah. So, so what is the motive for taking up leadership? You know, that's a big thing, right? What is your motive for, you know, taking up any position, taking up any place of leadership? That's something that you need to ask, I mean, yourself. And that needs to be clear. It needs to be pure. It needs to serve. It needs to, you know, it's not for position or power influence or any of those things. So the motive is clear. So if that is the case, you know, we, when we raise up leaders, we release the leaders into their whatever they want to, whatever they are called to do, right? And that will not be in conflict with the vision or purpose of the, of the church, right? So when we release them and say, okay, you know, go for it, pursue it with the encouragement and so it, it'll be in a nice way when you release the leaders in such a way. Maybe they call the plant a church, very, very much similar like, you know, this church, but then it's a, you know, maybe it's an urban ministry, maybe it's whatever it could be, right? But whatever the, you know, DNA is there and then special DNA, whatever they received and saying, maybe God has called them, you know, so, so the thing is for the leaders to have that open communication with one another. Say this is what God, you know, I'm not hiding anything, you know, I'm not doing anything behind your back and suddenly one day, you know, on half of, you know, half of the congregation is not doing anything like that because God has called me in purity and do things in righteousness and in the right way. So, you know, you share openly, you know, this is what I feel, God is calling, God is saying, maybe, you know, if it's the same thing, it can be another location, the sixth location, right? So, or if it's a completely different thing where the church, you know, it's, it's not really part of this, this particular vision, you go, and the thing is this, you know, ultimately you're in the kingdom of God, right? Sowing, watering, reaping, ultimately in the kingdom of God, we're co-workers of God. So, when we have that kingdom mindset, then we will praise the leaders, but we will also release the leaders at the right time. We will not hold them back and say, okay, hey, you need to be here, you need to be in this level only, you can't rise above, we won't do that. Yeah. Like the vision that we have or like the burden of a vision, it's not, or most of the times it cannot be like personal, but it's to collaborate with someone or join our hands with someone. Is it like that? I mean, if it's, you know, it depends on the, it depends on the nature of the vision. If it's, if it's something that's going to be the sphere of the influence of carrying out that vision, it's going to be, it's going to be big, right? Then most likely, yeah. You told like, even your vision, like what you want to do matches with APC. So you joined and you're working, like you're doing your, so it can be like that also. Vision cannot be sometimes personal for myself, but also like, you know, to join hands, like with someone whose vision like, you know, the same resonates with them. It's to go and be with them and join with them, but not like personally for sure. It can be like that. It can be that. Sure. Yeah. Okay. So, so we'll, we'll stop here. Yeah. And then we'll continue next class. Thank you.