 Live from Santa Clara in the heart of Silicon Valley, it's theCUBE, covering Cloud Foundry Summit 2017. Brought to you by the Cloud Foundry Foundation and Pivotal. Welcome back, I'm Stu Miniman with my co-host John Troyer. We're getting towards the end of a full day of theCUBE's coverage of Cloud Foundry Foundation 2017. Happy to welcome back to the program Abby Kearns, who is the executive director of the Cloud Foundry Foundation. Abby, thank you so much for having theCUBE here. Appreciate your support, and thanks for joining us. Thank you, my pleasure. I always love to be on theCUBE. All right, so Abby, let's start, we're getting to the end of the day. How many people were here? Can you talk a little bit about just the high level of the shows and momentum of the summit and the foundation? Yeah, it's been an amazing event so far. I'm always so excited and thrilled to be here with the community and spending time with all the amazing people that are in it. Each and every one of them continue to inspire me. We are a smidge over last year. I think we're close to 1700 attendees. I'd have to ask for a final count. But the most exciting thing about the attendees this year is over a third of them are users. And so for me, that's a really great signifier of where the momentum is around Cloud Foundry and the excitement and the engagement from the user community. We've had a lot of great announcements at this event, but also a lot of really people stepping up and becoming really engaged with the community. Yeah, and Abby, we've had some really good discussions with the users. There's some users that have booths, they're sponsors of the show. One of our guests talked about how it's not just a couple of people from some of these companies, it's like, oh, they're bringing 15 or 20 people there, steeped in this, it's bought into their culture. It's proliferating, is that something you're seeing more of? Yeah, absolutely, it's been phenomenal this year. And I couldn't be more thrilled to see the user participation. And in fact, we added a separate track for user stories because we had so many submissions from users that want to talk about all the amazing work that they're doing. So I mean, it's always, it was a privilege to say, yes, let's give more space to have these stories told. Yeah, I tell you, it's one of the things I've loved seeing over about the last 10 years is it used to be getting a customer story was so tough because it's like, well, what I'm doing, well, that differentiates me and therefore I don't want to share my secrets. When you come to the open source community, it's like, okay, here's what we're doing. I want to learn from my peers. Sure, there's some, you know, IP that especially we've got some big financials here, they're not going to share all their secrets but they're sharing a bit more and it's very different from, you know, what we traditionally saw. Yeah, and actually it's more than that. They're actually so open kimono. Like I spent a lot of time with users. I run the user advisory council still. I kicked off the community day, which was for the users and they're all willing to share with other users what they're doing, what's worked, what hasn't worked because it turns out digital transformation is hard, right? I'm making, I'm being a bit sarcastic but it's really, really hard and the technology is a piece of and Cloud Foundry really serves as a great enabler around this, but there's a lot of other pieces that have to fall into place and it's so great to see a lot of these companies open and sharing about what they've learned, what they're doing, where they're going next and why and I mean, to me that's just powerful. Abby, talking about momentum, I don't think people may not realize the size of the foundation and how many members it has big news this week, Microsoft joining the Cloud Foundry Foundation. Can you talk a little bit about that and about momentum or about the foundation in general? Yeah, absolutely. So we're at 64 members with the most recent joining Microsoft as a gold member. It was really great to have Microsoft and Google part of the foundation and the community and really actively participating. It's really great to have the public cloud companies participating and really helping enable users and really participating in where the technology is going. The momentum has been so significant though. We've just passed the 2,400 contributor mark. So we've had over 2,400 people contributing to Cloud Foundry. In the last 12 months alone, we've had over 51,000 commits. That is significant velocity for any open source project. Our self-organized user member groups just passed 200. So we have over 200 groups around the world with over 70,000 people participating. And so when I think about momentum, that's what I think about is what are the people that are using it? How engaged are they? And how is that driving our ecosystem? Which is why one of our big announcements this week was the Cloud Foundry Certified Developer Program that's now generally available. That's an opportunity to give these users the path to train, close that skills gap, get more people capable in running and developing applications on Cloud Foundry, but continuing to really build those strong foundations as we grow this out and really build the momentum around Cloud Foundry. So the certification program, it's super interesting, right? Cloud Foundry from very early in its evolution, right? I quickly realized that digital transformation, agility, all these cultural transformations have to happen and we've already talked about it here, right? So how are you seeing the foundation members and the customers who are not foundation members dealing with this upscaling problem, not upscaling, but the developers learning new things? How do you get up people up to speed? Well, there's a growing skills gap. You've heard from some of the other users, but many of the users are trying to hire thousands of developers over the next year, two years, and there's already a skills gap. There's already a skills gap of looking for enterprise developers that understand Cloud native best practices and Cloud native application architectures. And so our hope is this training helps build the foundation to get people trained. One of the things we found in our research was that for many organizations, they're no longer turning to outsourcing first or hiring first. They're actually looking to train people first. And so giving them the tools and the technologies to train their developers, not only on Cloud Foundry, but also Cloud native best practices and Cloud native application architecture best practices seems a great way to solve both of those things, getting more users on Cloud Foundry, but also giving people the skills to be competitive in a market that's growing and changing. Absolutely, I mean something we've been hearing for a couple of years now is how do I shift my workers from a lot of those treadmill activities to be more tightly engaged with the business, be able to help drive new uses of data, new things that will differentiate me from my competitor. And that drives deeper engagement and we know for so long people have been disconnected with the business and we've definitely seen that in IT that we can pull them in and they'll feel more part of that culture in moving forward. Right, and I mean it's, you can't be disconnected from the business if you're innovating and iterating. If you, you know, to quote the Express Scripts story, they're going from 45 days to four hours from deploying code. If you're deploying that quickly, the business has to be tightly integrated. What also has to be tightly integrated is that feedback loop with the customer and the user. So really pulling all those things together is where a lot of the magic is going to happen but that's also something that these organizations are working to build. One of the other big things we've been watching is kind of that maturation of cloud. As we went from used to be hybrid cloud really didn't actually match what most customers are doing. Today it's really a multi-cloud environment. Cloud Foundry's always spanned across environments but the two things I've been here and talked about this week, the open service broker API and of course Kubo. You know, what are you hearing from customers? How do those multi-cloud pieces fit together? I know you're pretty excited about the open service broker API. I'm so excited, I'm going to do a little cheer out here for both of those. And it's because I'm passionate about both of those opportunities because they both represent early stages of broader collaboration with long-term ramifications. The open service broker API project we started early last year and we announced it as a formal working group at the end of last year. And that really represented a way to allow the Cloud Foundry service broker to not only work on multiple platforms but also if you're giving people the opportunity to connect the service to a single API that runs on any platform, this really builds a strong story and a strong capability around an ecosystem. And as you think about that abstraction layer and we think about what Kubo brings to the table, you know, allowing Bosch to extend beyond Cloud Foundry to manage Kubernetes, allowing these users that run both side by side and bringing that day two story to the table really solves another layer of abstraction problems. So as we think about bridging all these technologies together at the end of the day, the goal is to allow developers the freedom to create but make it easier for them to run these things in production at scale. I mean, can you talk a little bit about the culture you're building here at the Cloud Foundry Foundation and the community? And I don't want to reduce it to a woman in tech question, but if you looked up on stage this morning at the speakers, if you looked at the people here that we've had on the cube, if you look around here, this is frankly more diverse than some conferences I've been at. So is that, I assume that that's a deliberate choice or motivation on your part? Well, absolutely. I'm a woman. Put the obvious on the table, but it was intentional. Diversity, and I said a little bit on my keynote yesterday is important to me. It's important to me, not only because I think it's important to make sure that everyone is represented as a voice at the table, but also it's important to me because I think about what's important in tech is innovation. And I don't think anyone can say that they're innovating unless there's diverse participation around the table. That's powerful in a community. That's also powerful. What's the amazing powerful piece of open source? Is that collaboration? And for us, for me personally, diversity and inclusivity are important. For the foundation, it's also important. And as we thought about the events we wanted to hold, it was important to really reflect that in our events. So this year, over half the keynote speakers this week are women. We've made a tremendous amount of effort to make sure that a lot of the speakers here are women and all the panels have women participating in them. And it doesn't solve a lot of the problems. We still have a long way to go, but it's really important to elevate a lot of amazing talent in our community and give everyone that voice. Yeah, I mean study after study, right? I've shown that diverse collaboration yields more innovation. The math's all there. I think it's just taken a while for everyone to catch up. But you do have to be deliberate about it. It wasn't accidental. Abby, for those people that didn't get to come to the show, can you give them a little bit of a flavor as to some of the nooks, crannies, tracks and cool things that they missed if they didn't come? We missed an amazing show. I might be a little biased though. But it's been really great. We've changed so many things up this year for Summit. We changed the track. So the tracks you will see be, we've added a new language track. So we had Pivotal's Cloud Native Java track and IBM sponsored a Node track and SAP had a Polyglot BI track and then Google sponsored the machine learning track. It was really great to bring a lot of other technologies and conversations around the table alongside of course the core projects and the platform updates and then the user stories. We've really brought a lot of different opportunities to have different conversations here and bringing in the broader view and the broader view of Cloud Foundry to this event because at the end of the day, I want people to come here and be able to share ideas, network with other people, learn new things and then ultimately have fun. That's excellent. Definitely, Abby, I want to give you the final word. Takeaways from the show. We talked about a number of announcements going on but as people come away, what do you want to have them leave with Cloud Foundry Foundation and the Summit? I mean, we added an amazing week of announcements. Some of the big ones were Kubo and Microsoft and the Cloud Foundry certified developer but we also, there was so many other ones that I worry a lot of things slipped through the cracks because there's just so many things. I mean, Chip had a bunch of announcements in his track about the local developer experience and a lot of the momentum around the project and it's just so exciting to see the community coming together and I think we're going to continue to grow and see much more engagement and I'm really looking forward to the next 10 years. Abby Kerns, thank you so much. Appreciate the support of you and the Foundation. Bring the Cube here. Always love this great programming and yeah, we did have a majority of the segments that we had here on the Cube had women on so always appreciate the diversity that we can provide. John and I will be back to wrap up our coverage of the Cube at Cloud Foundry Summit 2017. You're watching the Cube.