 Good afternoon, everyone. I need to check, are the other members on board? I don't see everyone. How are you? Doing well, thanks. How about you? I'm well, thank you. So far I've seen Manza and Nick. Yes, that's who I see also. Thank you. Hi, Manza. Hello, everyone. Good to see you. Happy new year. Happy new year to you. And here comes Jenny Lynn. Hi, Jenny Lynn. Oh, and Andrew Smith. Andrew and I just got off the phone with each other. Hi, Andrew. How are you doing? Nice to see a face. Thank you. Can we get started? Do you think? With five. Go ahead and get started, Ellen. Thank you. Okay. Thank you. I'd like to call the meeting to order. I believe it is now five 403. I think it would be great if, before we move forward with the formal agenda, if everyone could just introduce themselves quickly and say their name and which council member appointed them to the committee. So at least have a little bit of contact before the meeting. I'm Ellen Bailey. I'm the chair of the. And I was appointed to this committee by. Jeff Tibbets, who has now left the council. I'm the chair of the committee. I'm the chair of the committee. I'm the chair of the committee. I'm a little early. And so. I don't know how much longer I'll be on the committee. We'll see who, who takes his place. But I was asked to be the mayor by Tom sweat home when he was, I was asked to be the chair of this committee by the mayor. I'm sweat home. And then again, by Chris Rogers. So that's sort of my journey to get here. I'm going to call in each member so that because on the order that I see you on my screen, it just makes things go a little faster if that's okay. Okay. Thank you. Yes. I'm event minor. I was originally appointed by Tom swell. And I'm currently serving for district one. Eddie. Alvarez. Is that you for us for some reason? Okay. Was that me? Was I good? I was, I was good. Yeah, you both you need to say who did, who was it? Originally Tom swell home. And now I'm serving for Eddie Alvarez. Thank you. And then Nick, you're next on my view. Nick Castan appointed by Mayor Rogers. Great. Welcome aboard. And Monza. Thank you chair. Are you from North Carolina? Who are you asking with the last name? I'm just curious because we might be related. It's a possibility with your last name. Money. What's that? We'll check it out at another time. Okay. My name is Manza Atkinson. I was appointed by. Councilwoman Fleming. Victoria Fleming. Happy to be here. Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you, Monza. And Jenny Lynn Holmes. I was appointed by Councilman Sawyer. I'm going to call the chair. Thank you. My name is Manza Atkinson. I was appointed by Councilwoman Fleming. Victoria Fleming. And happy to be here. Look forward to hearing from you. Thank you. Thank you. Sawyer a couple weeks ago great welcome aboard thank you and then Veronica would you like to introduce yourself since we see you on screen and we some people don't know you or my name is Veronica Connor and I am the budget and financial analysis manager here at the city great thank you and Alan would you like to introduce yourself sure I'm Alan Alton I'm the acting chief financial officer thank you and then we have a recording secretary and could you introduce yourself is that Luna you're on meal sorry Victoria Luna recording secretary administrative secretary for the finance department thank you and our host I am Trisha Mason I work for the finance department behind the scenes host great thank you very much okay so let's get started I'm cut the recording secretary please call one moment you forgot Andrew Smith you know what was that I apologize I missed that spot all righty roll car roll call chair Bailey here vice-chair minor here member Smith here member Hennet member Atkinson yeah 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matters not listed on this agenda right thank you so we move on to public comment right now which is item two we are now taking public comments on item two non agenda matters this is the time when any person may address the committee on matters that are not listed on this agenda if you make a comment via zoom please raise your hand if you are dialing in via telephone please dial star nine to raise your hand and the host is checking for us to let us know if anyone is dialing in is there anyone is already member of the public that's interested in making a comment there are no hands raised thank you appreciate that okay so that means we move on to item three the approval of the minutes and so I'd like to call for the approval of the minutes are there any corrections or additions needed to the minutes not seeing any hands raised then I would say that we can move on and ask for someone to make a motion to approve the minutes from November 3rd I make a motion to approve the minutes from November 3rd thank you event and do we have a second I'll second that motion usually mark would do that since he's not here well I'll hold that position thank you very much okay so the special do we need to vote on that just they just accept it I forget that part I believe it's fine the way I need to vote on that okay thank you very much alright so now move on to scheduled item number 4.1 and it is the fiscal year 2021-22 measure of budget appropriations and we'll have a presentation by staff yes thank you everybody for being here this afternoon today we're going to be going over with you some of the measure O proposed implementation plan amendments for the current fiscal year so next slide please we will be presenting to you today two major changes to the implementation plan the first will be regarding new labor contracts for all departments which I will be presenting and the second will be some proposed purchases for specialized fire equipment which you will be hearing from the fire department so next slide so to begin with labor negotiations the city of Santa Rosa participated in labor negotiations during the current fiscal year and city council adopted new memoranda of understanding for all bargaining units in November and December of 2021 all safety and miscellaneous personnel have received a cost of living adjustment and assigning bonus which for effective mid-year so as a result the implementation plans for police fire and violence prevention must be adjusted to reflect the increases and salaries and benefits for all budgeted staff in these measure O funds next slide please at the same time sales tax revenue has been trending high due to a recovering economy and all measure O funds this year are on track to receive sales tax revenue in excess of the fiscal year 21-22 budget so as a result this additional sales tax revenue that has been coming in can be appropriated to offset the MOU costs and all measure O funds next slide so in summary our proposed appropriations to these measure O funds would be to appropriate $125,000 in revenue in the police fund and that would be offset with an additional $100,000 in salaries costs and $25,000 in benefits costs additionally we're proposing to appropriate $100,000 of revenue in both the fire and violence prevention funds that would be offset by salaries costs of $75,000 in each of the fire and violence prevention fund and $25,000 of benefits in each of the fire and violence prevention fund and with that I am happy to take any questions on these proposed changes I have a question that's appropriate so for the police additional revenue it looks from the report that that's all going into patrol services am I correct in that so police if the police department is here they may be able to answer more specifically what their staff actually do for the measure O staff but they do have approximately 16 people being funded in the measure O fund some are sworn but some are miscellaneous personnel so that additional salaries and benefits costs would be a blanket amount to cover all the personnel in the fund okay because the way I was reading the budget sheet attachment and looked like the highlighted sections were under patrol specifically so that's that's why I'm asking I see so can you hear me this is Chief Navarro say it was the police department yes chief we can hear you so yes what Veronica is saying is correct and actually all of our all of our measure O positions from a line staff line level staff were sworn are attached to our field services division that includes patrol officers and several of our officers that are in the downtown enforcement team and traffic so but it does it is more of a blanket going to offset the cost of the of the MOU excellent thank you chief I'm just asking because I'm going back to the bullet points in measure O for the funding I have a similar question concerning the fire funds although slightly different because I'm interested in how the finance department tracks this it looks like the staff related items in measure O for fire are specifically for additional firefighters so I guess firefighting positions added after the passage of measure O and and or for additional paramedic units within the department is that are those staff tracked by the finance department and these funds are being allocated specifically to those staff that were identified for measure O funds that's correct yes this would be those that's those particular measure O staff come out of the measure O fund so this particular additional funding is going within that one funding source and then the similar question and I promised only ask these things once once I learn them all but for the for the section titled gang prevention and youth programs in measure O it doesn't look like it's specifically called for staff hiring but instead ties it to specific after school and school programs and summer programs and such like that how does the recreation department track their staff time on these programs to then create the nexus to these fund allocations well there are approximately I think there's nine FTEs nine personnel within the violence prevention fund and so those those FTEs have been hired by this funding source and they I believe they execute the programs within the fund as well they may be able to the department be able to speak to the details of that more but we do track them by keeping them within one funding source so those staff are exclusively assigned to the measure O yes related programs perfect thank you are there any further questions not seeing any then my next step we have we do have another section of the presentation that the fire department will be presenting and we'll let them take it from here ready for me good afternoon chair Bailey and members of the committee Scott Westrow fire chief of the city of Santa Rosa next slide please so we're bringing to the committee today as a proposal to upgrade our mobile radios as new specialized equipment for the fire department and just for a point of reference mobile radios are the radios that go inside of the apparatus our command vehicles typically they're a lot stronger they communicate better they're not the portable radios that we would carry in our equipment or on our hips those are called portable radios those were upgraded via PG&E settlement funds because those those were not an enhancement to service those were those were just upgraded so they weren't truly an enhancement the estimated cost for this project is six hundred fifty thousand dollars that would be appropriating out of existing measure of fund balance it would be a one-time purchase and really what this is that it's an enhancement of this upgrading our technology to cutting-edge communication equipment that would benefit not only the fire department but all of our surrounding jurisdictions in the city as a whole next slide please so the new radios that we're proposing to purchase via measure of funding are capable of transmitting on and receiving on our redcom channel which is our primary dispatch channel for Sonoma County all the fire departments in Sonoma County including Santa Rosa on all state mutual aid systems as well as the new new police radio system it'll be the first time that we've ever had the capability of having true cross-band communications and currently our radios are only capable of transmitting from VHF to VHF which is the system we're on this would allow us to use different radio systems and talk on different channels so in the event of a major disaster you take the tubs fire the glass fire it gives police officers and fire department personnel the ability to talk on one radio channel to coordinate things like evacuations or take an emergency action whatever the case may be on top of the new radios we're proposing to buy eight vehicle mounted mobile repeaters which really increases the radio reliability and clarity during emergency so if you imagine there's a couple different pieces pieces to that see if you imagine a radio repeater that sits up on a mountaintop and there's a fire engine down in the flats the radio frequency the radio communication has to go up to that mountaintop to our dispatch center so it's sort of this triangular circuit of communication if there's anything in the way it's going to slow that communication down or interrupt that communication so having a mobile repeater on our command vehicles will put another repeater right at the side of the emergency so it breaks down that that long linear link that has to be made between the repeater and the radio and put something in the middle that boosts that communication along with that is during disasters and we saw this during the tubs fire typically radio repeaters are mounted on a high point on a hill with a lot of other communications infrastructure so if we were to lose a repeater to either a maintenance issue or to a disaster whether it's an earthquake or fire wind event psps whatever the case may be we now have that ability to maintain communications in in wake of that disaster by having those mobile repeaters mounted on our vehicles and then lastly is typically our our tactical channels is which we use to talk to each other during an event are not repeated but also builds in a piece where we can add repeated tactical frequencies so if we're working a single event in a large area it'll increase the communication there so it's really going to enhance our service and the communications aspect next slide please so again this this new radio equipment is offering the ability to bridge two otherwise incompatible communications channels so instead of just talking fire to fire we'll be able to brock we'll be able to cross band talk to our partners in law enforcement should the need arise the addition of these apx 8500 radios and the the vehicle mounted repeater systems will help bridge a vital communication gap should the radio equipment fail or if if we're in a large-scale disaster again so this is all part of what we're looking at as far as our well-done resiliency plan and increasing our communications capability these radios are considered more advanced than our standard versions would be if we were just replacing them it wouldn't qualify for measure but because we're upgrading to a definitely a different type and different version of radio equipment it is considered specialized equipment so it falls within the rules of measure that it's not supplanting its enhancement of services so so you know just like anything whether it's a relationship or work whatever the case may be the first thing to fail is communications we're trying to close that gap and make sure that our communications are strong should we face another large-scale disaster whatever the case may be or just on a day-to-day basis it's really going to help our communications whether it's regular structure fire regular vegetation fire or anything in between so with that we can go to the next slide and I'll take any questions or comments that the committee may have. I have a question. I appreciate the upgrade in the equipment that we have and so my only question is in relation to maintenance and so what does that look like is there is there something that's included in the package that would you know continue to do the maintenance and how long and is there warranties and stuff like that and then and then you mentioned that you could expand the system so if you expand the system there's additional cost for that or is there some incentive for us to you know utilize the company and see that there's the potential to expand if more of more funding becomes available. Great questions thank you council member committee member minor so to your first question yeah the maintenance and upgrade costs are all inclusive in the price and the nice thing about these radios is that it doesn't take somebody coming out if we need to change our radio load which we typically have to do once every two years it can all be done via the internet now so it doesn't have to be we have to pay somebody to come out and upgrade our radios so and we've been on top of that it falls within our existing maintenance contract so so it's really covered in two veins it's covered under the warranty and and this new purchase but it's also covered under our current contract so I don't see us increasing our price point there. As far as expanding the system goes this really is the catalyst to expanding the system you know if we down the road want to if this is really working well and we want to add vehicle mounted repeaters on all of our equipment so all of our fire engines all of our ladder trucks that would be something that we could do but I think right now where we're at is we're trying to control the price point a little bit and we're trying to make sure that it works as effectively as we think it's going to work and really test it out and so if we if we come into that vein if we come into hey we're going to expand this we would come back to the committee with that recommendation. Hey thank you that's all the questions I have. Thank you. Just a follow-up on those questions with the purchase of the equipment for in this round with Mejero funds would that disqualify a future expansion on to the additional engines and trucks of the same equipment in the future or would it still be qualified as new equipment for Mejero? I'd have talked to the city attorney specifically about that but in my opinion of the language of Mejero and the ordinance it would be it would still be an enhancement because we're adding a service and enhancing the service to the community based on the addition of the same equipment we're just making sure that we actually need it that we don't need to expand it you know we're gonna we're gonna test it on the command vehicles and hey you know this isn't working we need to put on our fire engines too we can come back and re-evaluate at that point. Excellent and I'd agree with that interpretation I would hope that that is what it is. Are there any further questions? I'm not seeing any so should we call for public comment? Is my internet stable enough right now can you hear me? We can hear you. Okay great um okay so I guess there's next call for public comment um item number 4.1 and um well you know I just thought it was sorry to interrupt but yeah I was gonna thank you yeah I was gonna ask a question for uh I noticed what uh Veronica had said about the nine full-time staff that's like specific to uh Mejero I wanted to ask and I know we have the chief in chief are we uh have there been any developments I know our past me we're talking about you know specific programs you know I know we were kind of talking back and forth about you know the language that's like in Mejero gang interventions like prevention is there uh you know I just want to give you a room to just talk about uh have there been any maybe like additions that y'all have been working on uh or uh you know I know last time we talked about the bastard program but have there been any other things uh that y'all have been working on that uh could help me understand uh with this adjustment I know a lot of it is kind of like due to the contracts and stuff but uh but yeah when I so uh so I I um I think if you're asking about specifically with the Mejero funding um that is in in front of you right now this has to do with um being able to assist us with funding these uh the current officers with um with the with the reallocation we we do have programs that we have started from a department wide standpoint so we we do you know the one of the recent things that we have moved ahead with was our in-response program which is a mental health response program but that at this point is not Mejero funded but those are things that I think in the future we can definitely have conversations on what that might look like but uh for this conversation today the the $100,000 is to assist us with the uh the pay raises okay and I we can I when we come before you with our uh the future Mejero you know the implementation plan for the next fiscal year we definitely have more more conversations so uh but we do we are continuing in uh several different areas of uh you know recruitment um you know uh community engagement and and so forth but we can we can definitely prepare for those conversations in the future okay yeah thank you yeah because uh I had a chance actually to run in I heard I know you all have like a special enforcement team uh to help with like violent acts right I don't know if that's always been a thing I don't know that that is correct that is a general fund um those are general funded positions but we did we did create a new team called the special enforcement team uh which is assisting in much of the gang or the firearms or violence related to firearms yeah okay no that's great yeah because I yeah I had a chance to actually you know meet some of them and I thought in my head I'm like oh you know largely working with gangs you know and obviously Mejero's I know some of it the language does mention traffic but I think you know I think largely we all understand is you know was seen as something to assist with gang intervention and prevention so I definitely think that uh you know maybe maybe in the future there's maybe something about you know maybe shifting some of the uh those funds for that specific team that's going to be running into you know folks that are quote unquote you know gang involved and stuff and could be an opportunity for you know assistance and prevention you know uh that I know like language was in Mejero for so okay thanks for clearing that up I just wanted to mention that because I think it's a it's a good time of those things intersecting and it could be an opportunity so yeah thank you thank you okay so do we have any more questions from the committee I'm not seeing any then we'll move on to the public we are now taking public comments on Mejero budget appropriation so item four appointment if you wish to make a comment please raise your hand and if you're dialing in via telephone please star nine to raise your hand and I assume the post do we have anyone if the public that wants to make comments I do not see any hands raised great thank you then I'd like to call for a motion on budget appropriation and ask for someone to make a motion to make a motion I'll make a motion all second and who seconded I seconded thank you appreciate that and is that something we have to vote on or we just have a first and second just the first and second thank you oh I'm sorry we do need to vote on that you should call the right okay so could someone call for could that be something that the recording secretary would do yes uh chair bailey yes here vice chair minor yes member smith yes member hennett yes member atkinson yes member holmes yes member caston yes thank you thanks everyone now let's move on to the 4.2 implementation plan amendment and I believe we'll have a is there more presentation on that no this is not a presentation this is just an attachment to the presentation um this is the detail that shows the new implementation plan that will be set forth after these changes are put into place okay thank you um so we need to um call for public comment again are there any members of the public that now makes a comment uh no again raised at this point okay and then I want to call then for a motion on the implementation plan amendment do anyone on the committee have a question about that at all and see that some of you are looking at your papers I'm wondering what about maybe or I'll move I'll move approval of the amendment to the implementation plan yeah I was going to say I I clicked on it but then it just said like redirecting so is that was there like a budget on that attachment or something or Veronica would you like me to share the screen or yeah people are having trouble viewing it sure we could see the implementation plan before yeah this is the implementation plan that you have probably seen before we approve on every year with the budget and the highlighted areas are the areas that have been changed so here this is police you could see that the revenue has a highlighted amount same with salaries and benefits this has been reflected those are reflecting the changes that we showed in the presentation so in this case it was I believe 125 000 of revenue and an offsetting amount and salaries and benefits and if you scroll down there is fire we have the offset for revenue as well as salaries and benefits and then there is that specialized equipment line item in there and then the final page is violence prevention but the same thing we have revenue as well as salaries and benefits highlighted to show the change okay thank you for that okay yeah I did get a chance to see that and this actually you know before we vote I didn't want to bring a question I know we have for the chief so chief I wanted to ask yeah I was a little confused when I seen that you know I know last time when we spoke on this platform it looked like there was a need for more funding for more officers to be able to engage a more specific like gang intervention and prevention because you know you all were so understaffed right you did like the population of the city and I was just I was just you know a little confused because I know last time we spoke you know it looked like it was a personnel problem but now I'm hearing that you know you got a new a new team but it sounds like maybe no one was hired but they were just more directed in their specific focus do you mind elaborated on that because I'm just having difficulties you know like approving something like this when I feel like if there was yeah yeah then let me let you speak yeah yeah sir so again the new team is funded through the general fund and we were actually given money back last year to address some of these concerns by the city council so that is general fund money we you know we're going through a staffing study right now to determine what our staffing allocation is I know anecdotally I still feel that we are on below staffing levels we're below the staffing levels that we had you know five years ago so we still got a lot of work to do and you know I think that you know the continuing we're continuing our efforts to try to best utilize the money that we're getting both through measure O and our general fund to to address those situations but the new team was general fund dollars okay so were there more people are hired we're we're in a constant hiring mode so we we are not we have not been up to our current allocated staffing and so we have a continuous staff are continuing hiring for our patrol officers or for our national department why there are sworn staff it's a continuous hiring okay so so for that okay so this special enforcement team that's going to be dealing with so uh my bad I just see your name so okay yeah I hear you and I do understand I guess those that team was specifically you know was funded by a different group but just me as a member of this measure O one which is specific for a gang prevention intervention I just you know just I guess kind of resaying what I was saying earlier that I definitely think that you know in the future using our funds for you know individuals that you can we need to we have a quick time out here so if I know Alan you're breaking up and I believe Alan wanted to speak on the matter as well if we can let him do that first yeah thank you I Alan I think you and I were about to say the same thing so we have a very specific agenda for this and we really need to keep the questions and the conversation to the items that are on that agenda so what you're bringing up are great questions and they're but they're more appropriate for when we come back later this year prior to budget adoption and go over the the full police budget and the other budgets that are funded by measure right now specifically what we're dealing with is an increase to the budget to offset the the cost of the new MOU and and to increase appropriations for the fire equipment and the item that you're on right now is literally just showing you and adopting what that looks like as an actually approved plan so the those are really the focus of the question needs to go specifically to that and then when we come back in April or May whenever that next meeting will be that's when we can have these more robust discussions yeah no thank you Alan and yeah I'm not looking for a robust discussion because I think you know when they had presented last last I think that a couple weeks ago I had brought that up with their other representative so when we do meet again I do know they present and then we vote and just so we won't have to schedule another meeting in the future to have you know the police chief and his team come up with with solutions to these issues uh and then us having to meet again I felt it important for me to mention it now so that it can be at the forefront because and when we do have that meeting and I do bring up these same questions I don't want us to be like oh these are things that should have been brought up prior so that's just and it's and I know I hear your point with these specific additions for this agenda but we are approving salaries for these specific individuals that I still do believe should be doing more you know connected to measure O's goals so but yeah definitely chief you know I hope you hear me loud and clear because next time we do come up I will be asking these and I do want to see like specific tendrils that uh you know are are to leading specific to gang intervention and prevention like programs and things that your team is doing because uh yeah I don't just want to bring it up again but yeah that's all I wanted to say on that I'd like to make a motion that we approve and adopt the implementation plan that was presented thank you do we have a second Monza was he gonna say something? I thought it looked like he was gonna say something no he was saying nothing we can't hear you still can't hear you can you hear me now yes I I hadn't planned I was not going to say anything but now that you mentioned member Elias am I saying am I saying am I saying it right okay despite that now this this is indeed an implementation meeting we have our schedule but I do feel that since we're here and we are oversight committee we should have the opportunity to voice our opinions as we are representatives of our communities that's so a member Elias member Allen I I can identify with what you know you're wanting to move on move forward with this meeting I gotta go fix food for my family I get it you're probably wanting to go home but I do believe I do believe we should have the opportunity to express how we feel in relation to where this money is being allocated to and who's involved with this process well with that said I second that motion to uh for uh I second that motion uh that's it Monza you're seconding 4.2 is that correct that is correct okay thank you and now I need to we need to vote yes yes okay number sorry chair Bailey yes vice chair minor yes member Smith yes member Hennett and ne member Atkinson yes member Holmes member Holmes yes thank you and member caston yes thank you okay thank you and now um I need to call for public on 4.2 mid-year implementation plan amendment yep are there any members of the public available for that no they were not okay great thank you um I think we're done is that right can I make one addition to reply to Monza if there's something that you guys want to speak about or bring up during this meeting it would be the time when she calls item 2 if it's not already on the agenda that you received item 2 is to speak any matter that is not on agenda for future reference okay I got a question if we want to add something to the next time agenda do we need to like send that to someone specific because yeah I definitely feel like thank you for bringing that up because I know our meetings are so structured so I definitely uh yeah so who should I ask about that thank you I think you can just you can notify the chair of what you'd want on the future meeting and we can get that on the agenda and and just to be clear you know to drop the thing it's not because I need to go home or because I want to move the meeting forward and that's going to do with it I'm trying to keep us from brown act issues we have an agenda and there's a reason for it being as structured as it is and when we stray away from that that's I need to bring that up to attention right so we're not allowed to talk about things that that are agendized and I just thought we were heading into a you know an area close to that and so you know believe me it's not my nature to interrupt but but that was I thought we were getting close and it's my job as staff to help the chair and and and bring that up so that's that's all it is that's nothing to do with time or this meeting you can go on forever it's all exciting Paris lines we stick to the agenda so I think that that there are some things that that clearly uh um the departments have heard of what they want to see in the in the next thing but if you have something something specific that you want addressed or updates on uh you should forward that to chair Bailey and then we can make sure that that's on the agenda and have appropriate staff to address your your questions and concerns sounds good thank you all right for sure all right I'll do that me setting that in your third next meeting sure great and if you have do you have any um anyone has any uh issues would not be able to reach me if you don't have my contact information let me know right now you can put it in chat and I can put my content I'll send you the kind you should all have it just in case you don't have my contact information let me um know as soon as possible and I will by putting it in chat or waving your hand something now so I know I should get it to you because I'm glad to answer any questions you have then to add the agenda so that we get the appropriate agenda think about the everything just there's realities around it I do have a quick question in regards to that and I know there's something that alias would like to see put on the agenda and if there's something that can't be put on the agenda that is something that can be talked about outside of this meeting with the necessary parties correct so I want to make sure that everybody's clear that they have something that may or may not be able to come on the agenda that's why we have the discovery on our part where we can have that discussion and if it is something that can be put on the on the agenda you know we're bound by a bunch of laws and if it's not an agenda we're not allowed to talk about it because we're going to be you know at fault so again if you have questions that you want to get clarified before this meeting comes make sure you speak to ellen and then also to the necessary department so that they can get your answers and then if it's something that can be put on the agenda then they will do that thank you that yeah if you don't and then ellen you're breaking up just getting a notice and my internet's unstable can you hear me at all you can now you can hear me now yes okay good I just wanted to say to remind everyone that they're very clear in our in ordinance what our word is and that we're talking about measure oh dollars not general fund dollars mr. scone so the the questions that you all come to me with potentially to ask about what could be put on the agenda has to address has to be in the frames of what our meeting is about and what our what our committee is about what our charge is which is to measure hours and the programs that we provide with those dollars okay all right thank you all very much I'm sorry about my internet I'll see what I can do about it next time sometimes I just think there's I don't know it's like a mystery to me so apologies for that it worked just fine this morning so I hope you're all well stay well and we'll see you again soon and I want you to adjourn the meeting please yes this meeting is now adjourned thank you thanks y'all have a good one